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Unveiling Cosmic Mysteries: James Webb Discoveries, Alien Speculations, and Humanity’s Celestial Connections
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Is the universe more mysterious than we ever imagined? Join us as we explore the groundbreaking discoveries revealed by the James Webb Space Telescope. This cosmic marvel has not only challenged our previous understanding of celestial formations but also allowed us to peer further back in time, potentially opening a window beyond the Big Bang itself. As we unravel these astronomical findings, we discuss the theories that could revolutionize our perception of the universe. Come along as we journey through the stars and uncover the secrets of galaxies, stars, and cosmic structures.
From the age-old question of extraterrestrial life to the futuristic prospects of warp engines and teleportation, our conversation spans the fascinating realms of space exploration. We muse on the possibility of alien civilizations observing Earth and how advanced technology could soon transform science fiction into reality. The episode extends into the wonders of the unknown, pondering the elements that connect us to the cosmos and the miraculous nature of our existence. Expect an imaginative exploration that embraces both the thrill and uncertainty of what lies beyond our current understanding.
Finally, we wrap up with an uplifting discussion on perseverance and determination. In a world filled with cosmic wonders and scientific endeavors, we reflect on the importance of staying steadfast in our pursuits. With a light-hearted exchange infused with themes of love, peace, and humor, we encourage listeners to embrace curiosity while spreading positivity. Whether you're a seasoned space enthusiast or a newcomer to the wonders of the cosmos, this episode promises to inspire and captivate with its hopeful outlook on humanity's place in the universe.
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and your favorite jersey guy. Get ready for another round of our real talk, crazy stories and everything in between. Yes, let's do it what it, what it be like, fellas, not much. What's going on, brother?
Speaker 2Nothing. How you guys doing Everything good, I'm great, yeah, great.
Speaker 3Yeah, drinking my energy drink. Yes, so I have some energy. I need some energy.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1Luke Talk to us. We're going to do. We mentioned it in the last two episodes before, when we did space and all that, and we mentioned the Webb Telescope.
Speaker 3That on its own, should have its own podcast. Yeah, so this is like part two to that. We're going to talk more about the telescope.
Speaker 1The way this. Thing works is amazing.
Speaker 3It's a very amazing telescope.
Speaker 1It's been finding a lot of stuff that we thought it contradicts everything. A lot of things they're saying now, when they find certain things, they go wait a minute. We thought it was this. And then it turns out it's something else. Right, because it sees that far back it orbits around the sun Right.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's insane, man, that's insane.
Speaker 3And you know the things that it sees and the clarity of this. It's crazy.
Speaker 1It's insane.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like that's what space looks like, because it really redefined what space kind of really looks like, right, right, because when we think of space, we just think of this dark.
Speaker 1Right there's maybe some stars in the stars, yeah like now.
Speaker 3You can see like these, like the pillars of creation, but the pillars of the creation. You always did see those guys, but now you see it and it's like different colors. It looks so vivid way so wild you would think think space to look with yes. The thing we got to forget is we think of rocks in space, we think of little pebbles and things like that. We think of space debris. Asteroid belt Gases are floating around. Gases sometimes are colors. Yep, yes.
Speaker 1It's just magnificent when you look at some of the things that they find, especially now, like remember, when the hub telescope came, that was the big thing, right, and then they had to change the mirrors because it was wrong.
Speaker 2Remember that whole big thing the wrong way, and they were out.
Speaker 1They had to go in space and they did it, and they changed the mirrors, yeah, um, and that thing alone found when it took pictures, right, so as far back as it did. And then you put this thing that goes around the sun, right, and you're like, yeah, what, you're seeing everything yeah, it's amazing yeah, uh, the uh, formations of stars in the extreme. I'm not. I'm not gonna read everything that has no, no, but there are certain things we should go and if there is something you guys just tell me right, ask me um.
Speaker 1let's just say this recent discoveries j. The James Webb Space Telescope has recently made groundbreaking discoveries that are reshaping our understanding of the universe Detailed imaging of the Milky Way's core. Webb captured new insights into the dense center of our galaxy, specifically Sagittarius C, like we know where that is region this year, Located 3,000 light years from the Milky Way, supermassive black hole reveals unprecedented features such as massive region and ionized hydrogens, like you were saying, gas. Then you have challenging galaxies and there's just so much stuff that you can go on and how far it's been seen back now, Like they're saying it's going to be able to see further than the other telescopes.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, but even as far back as the Big Bang. Or maybe because now they want to be able to see what happened before the Big Bang. What was it before the Big Bang? Right, that's the whole idea. Now, right, to try to figure out what's going on. How did that happen? What was it? Of course, we have people who think one way, meaning it's biblical or something to that nature. And then you have science, which is where we hang out in in that realm, because it makes more sense.
Speaker 3I have a different theory.
Speaker 1Uh-oh, don't say aliens, man, you're going to say aliens?
Speaker 2Well, yeah, it's got to be aliens. Little bangs oh yeah, it's got to be aliens. Little bangs, oh what Little bangs? A bunch of little bangs, a bunch of little bangs. Yeah, poof, poof, poof, poof, poof. Yeah. So right here for us with this sun, and the next one out is a nugs boom.
Speaker 3That was another one so a bunch of little ones instead of one huge one, like the sun, exploded and spit out Earth.
Speaker 1Like poof a little unless you're just saying so each star system is like have you ever watched the actual thing on the like discovery channel, where they show you what happened, how the earth actually formed?
Speaker 2and how it works. I just made a mess and it's all.
Speaker 1It's all, it's all animated, but you know digital animated, yeah right and they're showing these rocks, rocks crashing to each other from different places, right, and then it, and then it's just one big molding to rock just burning, yeah you know, and then from the beginning of time, and then where to go? So it came, it just didn't come from.
Speaker 2They're just saying what was before but wasn't that part of what the that would be cool to figure out. But in that, what, what? Um?
Speaker 1pillars of creation came from, like all the gases right.
Speaker 2So it was like the one thing that it was a little bit of a gravitational pull. Pulled all the gases Right. So it was like the one thing that it was a little bit of a gravitational pull, pulled all the gases together in the rock that was in the area, and then that's what made the this is saying different. They're saying because they can see far back now they'll be able to Now it's changing history, or changing what we thought was.
Speaker 1Well, there's a lot of stuff that it does that, yeah, yeah, absolutely Got. It makes sense. Challenging galaxy formations theories. Web observatants of early galaxies formed with a billion years after the big bang show them to be unexpectedly large and bright. This find it conflicts the standard dark matter based galaxy formation models but align with the alternative theory called modified newtonian dynamicsate challenges our understanding of cosmic revolution and the role of dark matter is shaping galaxies. So now dark matter is becoming a big thing now.
Speaker 2Right, because they say dark matter is everything, it's in, all, it's flowing through us, right now.
Speaker 1So the whole time they didn't even know it existed, and then they realized.
Speaker 2And then they find it, it was right there in front of your face.
Speaker 2You just couldn't see it. You just couldn't see it. You just couldn't see it. Exactly so that then I know, like I said, watching all the shows and whatnot, that dark matter is that energy. You know what I mean? That that's what's kind of keeping all of us going. And now I say keeping us going like that, but you know what Just makes things happen? Yeah, because it's almost insane, because every time we look out there, yeah, we thought we understood it and it's just like, wow, nope, that's wrong, it wasn't wrong. No, it wasn't wrong.
Speaker 1It just wasn't it still was.
Speaker 2It wasn't enough. It wasn't the whole story. It wasn't the whole explanation.
Speaker 1It wasn't the whole explanation Based on the science that they had, they came to the most logical explanation. But what about the stuff like when you think it's not that they were wrong? They were just off, yes, or they didn't imagine that would happen, Right? That it could happen, right, or something?
Speaker 1Who knows what it is right, but think about scientists like einstein when they look at the equations he has now for certain things and they go he was right, yeah, and he knew all those years then. Not that he knew, but they said this is what it would most likely be and this is, and then they would look at it now and they go on the money.
Speaker 1so think of it that way too. Yeah, because that there are people who have already you know, so they've gotten it right, but didn't know because, based on the technology they had for the time Right exactly, they could only work so much.
Speaker 2And he was ahead of his time. You know what I'm saying, just what he was thinking. And Newton, isaac Newton, you know gravity and what it was and da-da-da-da like all that kind of stuff, you know?
Speaker 1no, I hate newtons.
Speaker 2I don't like them either.
Speaker 2No fake newtons here yeah it's just, you know, it's insane that now we have a telescope that can see exactly what it was, exactly how it's happening, right, you know? I mean, yeah, we can't see in real time because you know it's so far away that we can't see it moving like that or doing whatever, but that now we're seeing it. It almost I wonder if they I don't even I haven't read all of it but now if that's how they're going to find where there are planets that we'd be able to live on, or like planets to have some kind of life forms on them. You know what I mean. I mean, they found a couple that you know. Yes, that looks like it's going to be this. There's, I think there's like three Earths, you know what they call, like Earth 1, 2, and 3 kind of thing, and they all look like they can.
Speaker 3How do we know that there's other people living there? So listen to this, listen to this.
Speaker 2Distant galaxies and early we Crack. Yes, let's go, not here, not in my neighborhood Well check this out.
Speaker 1So distant galaxies in early universe. So you're saying, right, so telescope has observed some of the earliest and most distant galaxies, dating back to about 200 million years after the Big Bang. The observations are reshaping the understanding of the universe formation and early growth. Right, so already the telescope is saying, yeah, sorry, this is what it is, and they're like, okay, yeah, but they're not upset. That's the great thing about science, though, because even though you may have thought one thing, what they did, a lot of times, they usually get fucking right or they're in the right, right in the same the right area.
Speaker 1You know what I mean, right exactly, but didn't imagine that it could do this or that or whatever it is. It's never that. Oh, it was wrong. We got it wrong.
Speaker 3No, oh shit, it was wrong.
Speaker 1But look what we got now, kind of thing Like we just learned and we figured out. Now they have to figure out why they didn't think about it. Think about just how science works, you know. So there's always work. It makes logic. Yeah, to just try to get the right answer.
Speaker 2You know well, even here now they're starting to find, they find artifacts that are, uh, that are older than we thought you know. So, like we're thinking that civilizations now on this planet were, you know, a hundred thousand years old, come to find out they were three hundred thousand years old. You know a lot of things that they're finding in all these. You know new caves and stuff that you know are popping up, kind of thing. It's like whoa, yeah, whoa. You know, and I will say I'm surprised that we're not catching, you know a little bit off the subject, I guess, but that we're not getting more, um, because you know some people believe in ufos, that we're not seeing more activity in the distance. You know I'm saying who's to say we're not.
Speaker 1Who's to say that they're getting it?
Speaker 2they're not telling hey, by the way, did you see what the web called the?
Speaker 1other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not gonna put that one out there are.
Speaker 3They say they don't know if it's from either use of social media. But there are more reports of UAP Unidentified flying UAP sightings.
Speaker 1There's also, though they say that, the actual astronauts who were in space back in the day when they first started actually observed certain things.
Speaker 3But they never talked about them because they knew Right, they never did.
Speaker 1They couldn't put that out right?
Speaker 3Well, that's the same thing that got in the movies.
Speaker 2If we go for the movies Transformers, the dark side of the moon, it was that there was activity on the other side of the moon that we don't see, and that's why the astronauts went up there and landed on the moon, so that this way they could see what was on that side.
Speaker 1You mean in the movie, in the movie, yeah, but then it was in the movie. In the movie, yeah, but then it was in the movie, but before the movie came out it was something that was spoken on, right, yeah, but they talk about I mean they, they, they don't, they haven't. I don't know if they've gotten to the dark side or they've had probes go to the dark side. I think they have where they were able to. You know, see what's on the other side of the right, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So, then, that's what I'm saying I'm so I wonder what this telescope has seen, just on our moon alone.
Speaker 1Let's see how it works. Let's see how it works first of all. Right, so the James Webb Telescope works by using cutting-edge technology to observe the universe in infrared wavelengths. Here are a breakdown on how it operates Infrared observations. Unlike the light telescopes, the Hubble Webb focuses on infrared light, which can penetrate gas and dust clouds, revealing objects otherwise hidden. Infrared also allows web to observe extremely distant galaxy extreme distant galaxies by capturing the light and stretched to longer wavelengths by the universe's expansion.
Speaker 2Yeah, crazy stuff. Yeah, that's why it's like it's so cool, man, like I said, just to see I mean I, I have only seen a few of the pictures that it sent back it's insane, insane, and then it's so far away, you know it makes it well, think about it, it's going around the sun, right.
Speaker 1So it's got a sun shield this the tugging right here which protects it. So sunshield, a five uh layer sunshield roughly the size of a tennis court, protects webs, instruments from solar heat and keeps them cool. At 233 degrees celsius, uh negative 388 fahrenheit, essentially for infrared observations. So they, when they and obviously they got the sun behind- it.
Speaker 2Yeah, so that's so.
Speaker 1That's the big thing, I mean the sun behind it nothing's taking some crazy ass pictures and going far, far back yeah, and then because of where it is around the sun, it's, it's getting, it's getting a it's getting a better picture yeah, yeah it well, think about having a backlight.
Speaker 3It has the brightest backlight you can have in the solar system. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2It's the truth, man, it is. It is so crazy man.
Speaker 3I would like to see, well, it's like having the sun outside as your backlight. Yeah, you get good pictures Towards everything, yeah.
Speaker 2I want to know what Pluto looks like.
Speaker 3Now they've got pictures.
Speaker 1You've got to see the pictures.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying, because they said it was small, Remember it wasn't a planet, and then they go back it was a planet again. It's all water. It's crazy.
Speaker 1You know, well, I, I think everything, that's what I'm saying. It's like not to cut you off, but when they were able to look through just normal telescopes, from what they had just, and then it go bigger than that, right, bigger than that, and then it just kept progressing and getting better and better and better, so again.
Speaker 3But science, then you have the hubble just an improvement.
Speaker 1Right, and that was just like the granddaddy of all of them.
Speaker 3You know I mean this.
Speaker 1Blew that out of the way yeah, and the couple was the, the launching for the one that they did. Right, think about it. They said, oh wow, you know the next one. Yeah, as if we had it orbiting around the sun, right?
Speaker 2what?
Speaker 1yeah, boom there it is yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2And I mean, there was one that they sent out. It wasn't even like a telescope, it was, it said, just it was just a camera and that's the one that they shot out. That is already, uh, past pluto. It was out pluto a couple of years ago, whatever. And the pictures that that thing was sending back, that was wild too. You know. Going away from the sun, he said again, the sun is the backlight. And I just, I listen, I love, love to see the actual coming together of all the gases and the rock and whatnot, like around the black hole. Like I want to see those pictures. I didn't see any of those pictures looking up this telescope, but just to see them. Like, just, like that last, just boom.
Speaker 1Well, you get those star clusters. When they show pictures of those star clusters, right, they actually give birth to stars that are just coming out. Yeah, you know, it's just. They just you know, like it's crazy, you're looking at it and the Hubble took pictures of them and they were magnificent. When you looked at them, right, you're like, wow, look at these things, look at the colors everything right, you know, sci-fi movie, yeah, and then this thing takes pictures of the same picture, the same place, same place, and it's like what?
Speaker 2yeah, you could see the differences now too. From the first one. You could see like some of the pillars are yeah, are different. They're different shapes or whatever. It's a lot fuller, if you will. You know, bro, it's so crazy, so crazy. As I said, I would like to see the live pictures. I wish we to see the live pictures. I wish we could see the live pictures, if there was a such thing. You know, just to, because you're going to see shit flying out of there. How come.
Speaker 3It doesn't have video cameras.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Yeah, why don't it have?
Speaker 2video? It probably does. Video would look so awesome, but it probably does. But we can't see because. So now, when the astronauts are orbiting they have a 10-second delay on the video that we get to see Because if anything happens, they don't want to see it. So because so many UFO stuff that's their buffer, or if anything's happening, they'll get that 10 seconds, that's why there's no video, exactly so there's video.
Speaker 3Now, that's going to further my reasoning, right.
Speaker 2Well, there's video. We just don't get to see the video. This is how far it is from uh so it's lagrange.
Speaker 10.2 l2 orbit is what it's called gravitational stable point, located about 1.1 billion, 1.5 million kilometers I'm sorry, uh miles away from earth on the opposite side of the sun, okay.
Speaker 2I thought it orbited the sun. It does what does. Oh, the telescope, yeah, it orbits the sun. So then it catches us.
Speaker 1It does orbit the sun, not the Earth, at the specific point known as Lagrange, point 2. Got it? There's how it works.
Speaker 3It's taken some pretty cool photos of the Earth.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro.
Speaker 1It's so great Combined with orbital motion and the telescope, create balance that allows the web to maintain relatively stable positions relative to Earth and the sun. Yeah, it's good stuff man.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's why it's got to be cool man.
Speaker 1I think what's going to be nice is that when we kind of figure out and they're going to find out eventually because they're getting closer and closer how did it all start?
Speaker 3closer and closer.
Unveiling Mysteries of the Universe
Speaker 1How did it all start? And then everybody's going to have their own thing about what they think was it, or started or how, what's about why, you know. But we might be around for that, fellas, listen, you know, might be around for that, because this telescope is no joy. They haven't even made a dent with this thing yet. Think about it were they only. How old is the telescope right?
Speaker 2now maybe two years. I think it's two, three years. It went up just before 2020, wasn't it? So it might be a little bit older than that. I thought it did 2020. Like 18 or 19, it went up Right. Then we started getting the pictures around there, I think. But yeah, man, it's three years old. Three years old, sorry, yep three years old.
Speaker 1Pretty sorry, yep, three years old. Pretty cool, as a nova 24 telescope is approximately three years old. The mission is designed to last at least 10 years, but thanks to precise fuel usage and efficient operation, it could remain functional for 20 years or more yeah, that's the same thing with the with the mars rovers. They sent down the two rovers and one did die on them, though yeah, eventually, yeah, but then so one died right.
Speaker 2So it was the two of them, and they were still going. One did die on them, though, yeah, eventually, but then so one died. It was beat to shit too. So it was the two of them, one died. And then there was this crazy wind that came, cleaned off the solar panels. It charged up again and they were able to use it. So you know, it was one of those things. But, dude, listen man. I believe our technology now is better than what we're being told, because I think they just know a lot more than what they're telling us. In all honesty, you know what I mean. I think that they know a lot more, not so much about aliens and stuff, but they just know more. They see more. They know what our future is going to be.
Speaker 1You know whether it's that we're going to. They're like, oh, the sun's going to stay lit up for like 10 million more years. So super, just, uh, just to know, period just the imagination alone, because when you look at the, when they have like a, like a diagram or something, and it goes far back as what they're seeing now, and then what's after that, like is that where's the end to what we're looking at? You know what?
Speaker 2I mean right yeah, that's what I'm saying, just to know, to see it, you know, that's it's. It's wild. Everything that we thought as far as time was concerned is a little off. It's just that much off.
Speaker 1They're starting to get right. They're starting to see things differently now because of the way things are yeah yeah, technology now is can do things that it's never been able to do before, which is fantastic. Yeah, which I love.
Speaker 2I wish we could travel faster, like we can get cameras or whatever satellites and stuff to travel faster and the information come back faster. You know what I mean. Well, they're working on that too. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1They're actually working on a warp engine.
Speaker 2I wonder that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3They're too. Yeah, that's what I'm actually working on a warp engine, I wonder that's what I'm talking about. They're walking on one weather. If they could figure out something with dark matter being able to let as a lesson, as like a propulsion.
Speaker 1I think there's something about that.
Speaker 2There is, so there's a one out west and they have a like a tunnel. It's in a big ass circle, yeah, it's like a mile, a couple of miles round, and they're trying to crash the atoms so that this way they can get to make the I'm trying to make them explode. The problem is that if they really do hit that, it could make a black hole yeah, well, maybe they shouldn't do that, that's what the convo has been like.
Speaker 2Well, maybe we shouldn't do this. They're like, well, no, no, we're trying to keep it and it's under this.
Speaker 3And then I'm like would it be a full size black hole or would it be like a miniature black hole? That only sucks things all it takes is a little one.
Speaker 2It would start with a little one, and then it would.
Speaker 1Oh you mean, if they create one. You mean right, yeah, they create one that it could just grow they already have, oh yeah, or different material, but they're not trying to do it where they're actually trying to open up something.
Speaker 2You know what I mean.
Speaker 1Can we make one and see how it works and get the idea of how it does? So basically it does pull in gases and space, rock and everything. It pulls whatever's around them. It's going to suck it up.
Speaker 2It's like a big vacuum, certain things we just shouldn't be doing, but the idea is what it can do for us as far as propulsion, like if that's going to be something that's worthwhile for these things. That's what they're looking at, bro Creating a black hole or like amazing propulsion system.
Speaker 1How fast can we go? I don't know. Well, maybe the James Webb will be able to somehow explain how space better get us the hell out. You know what I mean. How explain, how space the hell out.
Speaker 2Yeah, no shit. I'm sorry, lucia.
Speaker 1Maybe the telescope will be able to explain that, but that's I want to certain things that it sees and right, you might be able, you know to see how a black hole starts, so we already know what it looks like.
Speaker 2Well, how old it was, and when it and we're looking at it now, right, because when you see it, you're looking at it- so we gotta see how much it's grown, so that then the video that they probably already have they know that it's grown to yada yada size, pictures of it or whatever else. And, as a matter of fact, this telescope has actually helped us see how they work, if you will, to see all the things that were orbiting it and how fast it came in. And then it's like that flash of light because it's gone, because it's just blowing up as it's getting in there.
Speaker 1So they say there's one just outside our solar system. What?
Speaker 2there's one in our room in the milky way. Yeah see. So yeah, it's kind of cool to see this black hole is everywhere.
Speaker 1Right, they're finding out, there's everywhere is that what the thing is?
Speaker 3They keep growing.
Speaker 2They can, yeah, they can. That's what we're saying.
Speaker 1They're finding, they're starting to find out and they get super hot. They can get super hot man.
Speaker 2So what it is is that, because of the gravitational pull that they have.
Speaker 3They're trying to find they, the universe Isn't there a theory that, like a star, turns into a black hole.
Speaker 1When a sun when a sun Well a star Right a star, yeah, right A star. A sun, yeah, but they're finding so many now. It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 3And then the black hole turns back into a star and it's just going. It burned out. So it's the sun.
Speaker 2It's the sun. It dies. When the star dies, it implodes, and then it sucks everything in and then it explodes again Right, and then when it explodes, that's what creates the black hole. It's that energy that makes the black hole so then it's not that it comes back and you know turn into a sun again. It's like what they call like a supernova.
Speaker 3Check it out.
Speaker 1Space Supermassive black holes in the early universe, jwst identified extremely red quasars, which are supermassive black holes surrounded by dense gas and dust dating back to when the universe was less than 700 million years old. These quasars were detected through gravitational lensing, which amplified the light and revealed their extraordinary brightness caused by intense energy released during matter accretion right right so so that's what you see.
Speaker 2This thing is finding that now yeah so you get to see it when it was in his infancy, right, yeah, so then now I want to know what it would look like. I mean, you said a few million years ago, so you know, like what it is now to. You know, see how much it's grown or shrunk or whatever. You know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my question. What is a quasar?
Speaker 1Quasar. This quasar, powered by a black hole with a mass of about 1 billion suns, was found to drive powerful quasar winds. These winds, traveling at 4.7 million miles per hour, are capable of ejecting massive amounts of gas and dust, potentially halting star formation in the host galaxy. This discovery sheds light on the early black holes might have regulated galaxy growth. So-, right, exactly. They growth. So right, exactly, they're necessary from what they're finding out. They find out, okay, this is what, in order for things to work and we have to have this, and they just move around wherever they do, and you ever see when they show in the galaxy's crash? Yeah, to each other. Yep, have you seen those?
Speaker 1no oh it's freaking great bro they have actual. You know it took them a while, a long time, for it to yeah, but when they knew what was going to happen, they have pictures of it and you see it and they just you see them and they just separate.
Speaker 2Yeah, they go like this, and then when they hit, there's like a well, it's kind of like spreads out and it's just. It looks like almost if you had, uh, if you poured paint on the table two different colors and you just kind of see them kind of like cross through each other and then of course they mix up and then the galaxies form again. Yep, they make something else. Yeah, it's insane, it's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I love space man. I was fascinated as a kid. And just the what, the what, not said one for one thing.
Speaker 3Do they have video of it? What else it's still pictures.
Speaker 1Oh, you can find pictures and it'll be video of them.
Speaker 2Of the pictures. It's video of the pictures. You know, like yeah, there's no actual, like Well, it might, I don't know. No, because it took too long. It was too long so like they would have to put all the pictures together book.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know like when you draw a picture like but it's so cool though when you see it, yeah, you speed it up. It's like see them just crash into each other.
Speaker 2Just look it up, galaxy's crashing and, um, it's, it's, it's, it's wild because we live in a galaxy. Yeah, we live in a galaxy, you know now.
Speaker 1So maybe that's how we, maybe that's how we go, and not necessarily.
Speaker 2Well, of course, the earth could die too, as well, when the earth could die itself in billions's, the fast forward In billions of years from now.
Speaker 1I mean it won't matter for us because we won't be here.
Speaker 2They talk about the sun blowing up. The sun was supposed to blow up in 2020, I mean in 2000. So you know, it's like. You know we're talking. Billions of the sun was so.
Speaker 1they weren't sure, they were like because they saw that we learned that in science growing up in school. Man, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2Remember in science, then in school, bro, that they had turned around and they said that there was something.
Speaker 1I never heard anything like that about it. How do you know what I said? 20,000 is going to blow up.
Speaker 2Listen, flares were going to have, that the sun was going to, the kind of solar flares that were coming, that it was that the sun was losing energy, that it wasn't breathing the same. So then they were determining that, instead of it being three million years from now that it would die, that it was going to be a million and a half it was, that it was going to be a shorter lifespan than what we first thought. Now they're saying no, no, no, it's going to be longer, it's going to be way fucking long. Exactly, but New Zealand can't get to it.
Speaker 1That's why we have magnetic field, because that's stuff from the sun, and then the magnetic field does its job. So everything has a purpose and a reason for why, now that they know that, yeah, that's so.
Speaker 2Tommy's like I don't care.
Speaker 1He doesn't.
Speaker 3He doesn't care, he's in this little world right now. I don't give a fuck about no telescope, whatever just know.
Speaker 2Yeah, see, this is the other geek moment, right?
Speaker 1here bro.
Speaker 2Sorry bro, I couldn't help it yeah, that's great, I could see the look on your face that you were in another place right now.
Speaker 1You were like I don no, I don't want to hear shit, that is funny as hell.
Speaker 3It's ADHD for you.
Speaker 1But that's what's so good about you know, they keep learning and, like I said, they're either on the spot, on the money, or they're in the right area. Then they just find out. No, wow, we were wrong about that, right.
Speaker 3I'm glad.
Speaker 1I mean you thought it was this, but all right, cool, I'll take that. That's good stuff to know. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2Yeah, I would think that's how I would look at it, hell yeah, hell yeah, especially out in space, bro, all the shit that's going on out there.
Speaker 1Well it just explains it makes I think the main idea is just to it's a mystery man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying it's a mystery man.
Speaker 3It's like a mystery man.
Speaker 2That's too fun. But yeah, bro, it's awesome to see all those things, the pictures that we're getting back, you know, a better understanding of what's out there, because it's going to help us when, if and when we're around, to see us landing, us landing on mars, or you know that's gonna happen, even going on you know, any of the other moons in the solar system, you know when they were talking about the, the, with the, the quasars or whatever, going faster.
Speaker 3Was that fast? You said it was like 500 million miles an hour or something around a black hole, yeah, or is that like faster than the speed of light?
Speaker 2that's crazy fast. Did you see what? So, yeah, it is faster than the speed of light, but I don't know like, how much.
Speaker 3Like if something that were to happen, it would happen. We were like crashing to our like solar system. It would happen. So you wouldn't even know it wouldn't even we wouldn't even know, we didn't even see it coming right?
Speaker 2no, no, we wouldn't see it coming, but we would feel the effects it would be like you wouldn't even know you wouldn't even know what happened.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I think I I don't. I think what they, what we wouldn't know happen, is when we actually like we won't see it coming. I think we'll see the initial pull, like it'll be that one, like that five seconds or that minute or whatever, I don don't know. We'll see the sun, like the sun is just like gone, and then you know what I mean, I think it'll be that 60 seconds or whatever, that we'll have that.
Speaker 1Well, let's talk about how, how closely we are to space when you think about it, and why we're so fascinated. Right, we have a lot of the same components that space has. So what that space has we have, right, we're made of. Right, so we came from that. You know what I mean. So we're part of the universe, right? Yes, when you think about it, you know what I mean. A common elements. The most abundant elements in the human body are oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, phosphorus. These are the same elements found in stars and other cosmic phenomenon, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're space dust man.
Speaker 3That's what we are Space dust man.
Speaker 1We are space dust dude. Yeah, Literally.
Speaker 2That's fucking hilarious, yeah, and that's the whole thing. That's why we can't believe people shouldn't believe that we're the only ones in the universe.
Speaker 1Oh this, just yeah, well, that goes. You know, we did that already. Oh this, just yeah, well, that goes. You know, we, we did that already. We did that. We'll probably do another one. What on, uh, aliens and everything but yeah, that goes without saying. I mean it just makes sense. It's just the bit. The thing is that what they say is it's so far away that by the time the message you got to you right whatever it would be from a time they would already be past that already, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1Yeah, or'd be years way ahead in the future already by the time you got it, or vice versa. They're not even there yet.
Speaker 2Because, think about it, we sent out a record, an actual gold record that had math equations on it and music and all that other stuff how to say in many ways.
Speaker 3Hello. Who's going to know what even that fucking record is, though? And that's what I'm saying intelligent if you're like, if they have the same intelligence as us and they've never seen a record before, they would figure out what the hell it is.
Speaker 1But I would have to imagine that they would figure that it's a pin.
Speaker 3They might try to put it in like a fucking disc player. Try to read they use a laser or even a laser, yeah, laser disc. But what it?
Speaker 2going to read the same. But the idea, the thought process and the instructions, if you will, was that they put it in mathematical equations that whatever other life forms that are out there would be able to decipher the mathematical equation that's on it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because math is like a universal language Right, because math is universal, exactly.
Speaker 1Take two. You take, you know adding and subtracting. You got three eggs plus two eggs.
Speaker 2Yeah, yep, so they put that on, there, you got three space eggs plus two space eggs.
Speaker 3Yeah, you get Godzilla Right. Yeah, you got five gray aliens and you take away two gray aliens.
Speaker 2Oh, they were racist on that planet.
Speaker 1Great aliens.
Speaker 2So, yeah, what are you trying to say? But that's the whole thing. You know, even for us, we always well, not always, I'm just lying, exaggerating. They've said that we have heard space noise, right, oh, I love when they do that, right? So now the space noise, is it?
Speaker 1You ever?
Speaker 2listen to that, so the space noise is like what's the?
Speaker 3space noise, you guys know more about this.
Speaker 1I don't know they have actual recordings of what space, just space, whether the probes or whatever. They have the satellites and they're able to hear and just record what it sounds like in space. It is so freaking nuts, it's crazy.
Speaker 2There's no atmosphere, so there not being any atmosphere in space, in the darkness how is? That sound getting to us? Yeah, that's what the question is.
Speaker 1Yeah but depends on where the satellite is. It's what is picking up where it's at. Right right, right. So he's getting all that noise and we're getting the recording of whatever he's sending back.
Speaker 3It doesn't sound like it's traveling through air.
Speaker 1But that's what I'm saying. It doesn't necessarily have to travel through air, no.
Speaker 2So it's traveling to the gases. My question, my point, is that how far off were those sounds when it?
Speaker 3was being made. Because, even when you watch the no, these are ordinary noises, just of rocks and stuff and things. When you watch the rockets take off into space right. And the videos.
Speaker 2Yeah, Because you're inside the spaceship.
Speaker 3Yeah but as soon as we use the, but as soon as the atmosphere.
Speaker 1No, sound, no oxygen, but you notice that the fire still works. It's propulsion, so they're still going.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, but what I'm saying is there's no sound because there's no air to produce the sound.
Speaker 1Or the engines, I should say the fire coming out of the engines.
Speaker 3You know what I mean there's no air to produce the sound, right, I get it. So, that's why, where does the sound come from?
Speaker 2Well, the sound like I said inside Something's making noise. Yeah, you get to hear it.
Speaker 1But they say it's from all the gases and the things that are going on, depending on what area they're in.
Speaker 2But can you imagine that that just that's good stuff. Yeah, I want to know where it's coming from. I'd like to know, like I said, where that sound is coming from. You know, is it just, uh, the other galaxies, that, or being that? Things were crashing, things that we've seen now, but the sound got here first, so we don't even know. We got to sync it so you can hear it. So no, there is no sound in space because sound waves need a medium to travel through, like air or water. Water and space is a vacuum with almost no matter, says google. So now again, they have to travel. Then, if we're getting any sound or whatever it's bouncing off of, would be to the gases that we are seeing through the telescope, that are coming, you know, that are flying through the so I have Voyager 1 and 2 sounds.
Speaker 1As the Voyager spacecraft traveled through space, they recorded electromagnetic signals from planets, suns, cosmic rays. These sounds are often converted into frequencies with human hearing range. For example, the sound of Jupiter's magnetic sphere and Saturn's rings have been transformed into audible frequencies.
Speaker 2See so, then you need to have something for it to travel on NASA space sounds collect the space recordings, including the eerie sounds, of the solar, wind and magnetic fields around the planets.
Speaker 1These recordings are typically generated by instrumental instruments, like the plasma wave instrument on spacecraft, which detects fluctuations in electric magnetic fields. Pretty interesting stuff, see.
Speaker 2So that's why it'd be cool to know where it is, because then, if it's not, that far out in space. It's bounced something out there. Don't forget then, if it's not that far out in space, it's bouncing Something out there, is making it you know, sound travels just like anything else, just like light.
Speaker 1It may not travel as fast, yeah you know right the speed of light is faster than the speed of sound so obviously it's going to travel for, however, until it gets to you, depending on where it's coming from and that from, and that's the whole thing, but you could be in a spot where all that's going on already if they had the satellite going through and he's recording.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying. So where it is that it's coming from, we already know that matter moves through the and gases are moving through space already. So then if we're catching something from where, let's say if it's moving, you know, left to right when we're looking at it to space, that then where did that gas come from that's now carrying that sound?
Speculating on Extraterrestrial Life
Speaker 1you know? Oh, check this out Interstellar sound, the cosmic of microwave background radiation, the afterglow of the Big Bang has also been converted into sound waves. These provide the background hum of the universe itself. Yep.
Speaker 2That's deep man.
Speaker 1Yeah, way deep that's good stuff, far out, far out man, that's great, that is great yeah, super far.
Speaker 2Yeah, again, it'd be cool if there was some. Now here's the other. Funny, it went out, there the record. That record went out in a satellite a long long time ago. So now, where did it land? It went out when?
Speaker 1I was a kid. Yeah, maybe it went before. I don't even know so when it went out there who's going to catch it?
Speaker 2to turn around and think, to even look and see they would have to put the record back together if it crashed and hit a planet or whatever. I think, see, they would have to put the record back together if it crashed and hit a planet or whatever. I think it's just still traveling.
Speaker 3Just travel, yeah, I mean, I guess, I think, unless it crashed into something, yeah, like it's gonna. You know if it crashes into a planet, could you imagine seeing that?
Speaker 1going by. You're in a spaceship, yeah you're in your thing hanging out like what the?
Speaker 2who the hell is littering out here. You know how it's got to be earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gotta be those guys over there. Well, no, they don't even know we're existing yet.
Speaker 1I bet you know what I'm saying. You never know. They have people who travel. They have people who travel.
Speaker 2They know what planet it came from.
Speaker 3It's the Klingons they're smarter than us. It's a meme that says that's why the aliens don't talk to us yeah, yeah, yeah, they haven't reached that point yet.
Speaker 1They're not there yet. Yeah.
Speaker 2It's just so amazing. You know to think that between the telescope, the things that we've seen on television, you know documentaries and stuff, you know we are where we are in our thought process. Now it's oh, wow, yo, this could be, that could be. So many things have come in these last 75 years. We'll say, you know that now even things like star trek looks like it could be real. Yeah, you know star trek more than real star wars.
Speaker 2But you know, star wars was probably what's already going on on the other side of the, you know of the universe that we're not even seeing, you know it's.
Speaker 1It's to go back into time and see what it looked like when it first happened yeah, the thing is is we don't know what's actually there.
Speaker 3We only we're seeing the past. Right for seeing 100 million light years away. That's 100 million years ago, right, we're seeing right so there could be entire civilizations by now.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's just yeah, yeah, yeah like even for them on.
Speaker 2You know, they look, they see us, can't see real time. Yeah, they looked at us from when we were in 1965, you know, and here we are in 2024, or probably even longer than that, depending on where they were, whatever else because again, with the aliens they was. They say that they come from Orion's Belt and that's far, far away. So then now, that's why, like what Tom was saying before, I want to know what they see over there in Orion's Belt.
Speaker 1I think the way they travel you have to be realistic as far as that goes. It would have to be some way that they've been in space like a warp engine. Right the warp engine right, trying to figure out where they're able to just they'll have their, they'll be able to move faster because they won't be going. It'll be pushing space out of the way for them right, yeah, you know what I mean. It'll be like, you know, there's no friction, or?
Speaker 1any type of thing and you would just be, or some kind of portal where you open a window where they're able to jump from one place and then go to another time, where they just pop in and out, something like that, who knows. I mean, it's possible, right, think about it and that's what I mean, I don't know I mean, of course it goes our imaginations. That's the kid in us, and you know it couldn't be far off, because a lot of sci-fi came true.
Speaker 3Man, yeah I forget where I saw this when they were trying to explain how like teleportation would work, or like it's like if you want to get from point a to point b on a piece of the fold space right, you'd have to fold space, exactly right.
Speaker 2So then we'd have to write space, like you just said before I remember reading something on that. Yeah, it's pretty cool and it's in this way, groovy. So then, even with that, still, what if that? The aliens that we see, we hear the grays, the whites, the tall grays, or whatever it's that they getting here, because it took them so long that this is their quote, unquote evolution.
Speaker 1Yeah, but if they're already get, you know they didn't damage their ship and they just couldn't get back, or whatever. And they didn't have the technology at their hands to be able to go back.
Seeking Answers and Spreading Love
Speaker 2They can't fix it or whatever. But then I would think, if they're that far advanced, they're probably already bending space and doing all that right, but it's making so long quicker than still with the bending of space, it still, it still takes that long, you know we're gonna find out there's tvs and shows and stuff where you know they show where people that live in space for, uh, an extended amount of time or just that they live on another planet where there's less gravity Right, they look differently.
Speaker 1Well, we'll find out man. Yeah, if not in this life, the next.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to stay here until it happens. Yeah, just saying Where's the shot, all right. So with that, everybody, thank you for listening. Love, peace and hair grease. Love, peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and go vegan, yeah, holla.
