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From Ark Of The Covenant To Oak Island: Myths, Clues, And Theories
What if humanity’s most sought-after relic is less a treasure and more a warning label? We dive headfirst into the mystery of the Ark of the Covenant, starting with Ron Wyatt’s headline claim and the gaping hole where evidence should be. From there, the conversation widens: Is the Ark a sacred vessel holding the tablets of Moses, an ancient technology with dangerous side effects, or a myth that persists because it explains our deepest hopes and fears?
We follow the threads that fuel the obsession—Knights Templar legends, Oak Island’s baffling flood tunnels, and the strange appearance of coconut fibers far from any tropical shore. Each clue invites a new theory: a global relay of guardians masking the Ark’s path, an elaborate engineering project to misdirect seekers, or a puzzle designed to keep power out of reckless hands. Along the way we weigh bold stories about blood on the mercy seat, contested tests on the Shroud, and the uncomfortable truth that history is often edited by those who win, whether emperors consolidating faith or regimes burning libraries to reset memory.
This episode asks harder questions than it answers. If someone finds the Ark, who should control it? Could a sacred object be a weapon—or a mirror reflecting our lust for certainty and power? Between ancient aliens, inner earth guardians, and pop culture touchstones from Indiana Jones to The Librarians, we keep circling the real stakes: evidence, ethics, and humility. Maybe the smartest move isn’t to open the box, but to fix how we search—protect context, vet claims, and resist turning faith into spectacle.
If mysteries like the Ark, Oak Island, and the Spear of Destiny light you up, you’re in the right place. Hit play, subscribe for future deep dives, and share this with a friend who loves a good rabbit hole. Then tell us: should we keep looking—or finally let the Ark stay lost?
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SPEAKER_02:I will do that. So you guys ever hear of a gentleman, Ron Wyatt, Wyatt? I'm sorry. No. Never heard of it.
SPEAKER_03:I thought you said Ron Wyatt is that that called me tight or sal. You know, talking.
SPEAKER_02:He he claims that he found the covenant of the art. The art of the covenant. Seriously. Yes. That's what he says. That's the first time I'm hearing that. You know, and we we have some we'll go through it. I mean, yeah. But it's interesting. Indiana Jones. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. What do you really know about it? Before we get into this, the first thing I think is Moses on TV with Charlton Heston. That's the first thing I think of. That was always on around Easter and Passover, and that's usually when Moses threw them into the well, at least in that particular that particular story that we watched growing up. I was getting confused with the Holy Grail.
SPEAKER_03:Sorry. Oh, wrong movie altogether. I was gonna pull out the you know we got the Holy Grail right here. But that does come in because it does come into play. Let's drink from it. Don't drink from the fancy one because you're gonna die. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Fancy. That was Moses right there.
SPEAKER_02:So go ahead. So that's what I knew of it. And of course, I grew up in a Jewish household. Right. So Moses, of course, right? Right. And whatever you heard growing up, just the things that you learned in, let's say we're not I didn't go to church, but the times that I had to go went to Hebrew school or whatever I was doing for my bar mitzvah and all that. Right. You learn about these things. And then through history too, you know. So I was always interested in this stuff. I think you guys are too. Because that's the first Indiana Jones is the one was the Ark of the Cup. That was a great movie. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right. It was the first one. Remember? Then what's the first one? The Nazis are trying to get it. So that's another movie. Another reference. Yeah. So now what was supposed to be in it? The Ten Commandments. So now. Yeah. They say that um as far as like the Bible and seeing gods and angels and whatnot, you know, don't worry about the city.
SPEAKER_02:What I read in here is that this he encountered four angels that were guarding it when he found it. Right. Supposedly. This guy. This gentleman. Okay we're talking about here. Wyatt. Did God hide the ark or did something someone think they found it? Quick setup. All right. Who made a huge biblical claims? Who was Ron Wyatt? Let's start there. The Ark of the Covenant, stone tablets, other first temple artifacts. The Ark was not allowed to be removed until God. This is another one. So I'm gonna just go. Here we go. I'm just gonna go off what I've read. Basically, he said he found these caves and tunnels, and then he wound up finding the Ark of the Covenant. You're in the States or overseas? No, in Israel. Okay. And he doesn't have any proof. So when he did find it, he accounted four angels that were guarding it, and he were not allowed to take it unless God was said it was ready to be taken. In other words, it couldn't leave where it was at until God said so. But he never really showed any proof. He didn't have anything to say or anything to prove that he found it. That he found it. There's no pictures, no pictures, no artifacts, no nothing. You know, nothing.
SPEAKER_03:So I could say that.
SPEAKER_02:So again, like he wasn't a real archaeologist, but a lot of people follow him and believe what he supposedly, you know. Hey, I who might deny that the guy didn't see something, right? Maybe he did. Right. I don't know. But you would think you would have something from that. Something. So now here's a pocket of sands.
SPEAKER_01:Now how long ago was this that he Yeah, right, something. How long ago was this that he found it? Oh, okay. Was it in the 70s? No, no. I think it was later than that. Because here's my thing, right? What I started to say before was that in the ancient alien stuff, you know, watching the TV show and whatnot, and you know, if people that would believe that aliens are gods and or they were the gods and or they were the angels and all that other good shit, that then the inside of there was something that could kill. Like um, it was they they think it was something maybe radioactive. Was it? And that it was sitting in that case, like a lead case, and that's why uh that they said if you opened it not to look at it, not to go near it, because then you would die. Right. Because it was like radiation poison. Well, that was kind of how they portrayed it in the Raiders of the Lost Office. No, no, that's what the ancient aliens are saying, too. Like the like when the the all those guys who the the alien uh guys Well, because it's probably a force that is powerful beyond belief.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I mean? Like it's just it will just if you look at it, you're doomed, you're going blind.
SPEAKER_01:What was in it is where the was what the question is if it was the Ten Commandments, what was it written on? Who was something that glowed or was gonna kill anybody who looked at it and all that other good stuff? What was gonna come out of there? And for this guy, I mean, think about it. People have been looking for the arc forever because now you go and you got that Oak Island. So I don't know if you ever seen that show, Curse of Oak Island saying that the Knights Templar had bought it from you know, from Israel, from Europe and whatnot. Right from over there, but over to the States, and that they were trying to, you know, hide it and keep it out of the hands of all the bad people and whatnot. Right. And they fought and fought and fought and whatever, and then they ended up in, you know, on Oak Island in Nova Scotia, and they buried it, and that's what is now the uh it's the money pit because it's everybody that has heard and readers digest story that there was treasure buried there, and they would just try to dig and get at whatever the treasure was and such, and then uh there was this guy Blank and Chip who we turned around and went in there and he tried to dig it, and there's legend I can't remember offhand exactly, but there was supposed to be like four people that would die trying to get to the treasure. So that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03:And the whole thing with that was that that like they almost had it. Almost had it, and they hit this tunnel. It was like a flood tunnel. Right. So what ended up what they found with the. Did you watch that show? Yeah, yeah, I watched, I I fell off after like the last I didn't watch the last season. Okay, so they used to watch it a little bit. I got back. I was just like, all right, they're not cutting this thing. I was like, after a while, it was just like this.
SPEAKER_01:Did they actually even know there was something there? No. No. So they keep finding things. So what do we say? They find little bullshit. They find a lot of weird shit. Right. So they're finding things there. So why it is that now it's so intriguing is because so many, like, it's things that are there that people are like, wait, wait, how did this get here? Wait, wait, this shouldn't even have been here. Wait a minute. Coconut fibers. Coconut fibers. There's no coconuts in Nova Scotia. There never was. So that they're not.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they believe that's what the flood tunnels were. Right.
SPEAKER_01:No, the flood tunnels were traps. Flood tunnels were the traps.
SPEAKER_03:To prevent anybody, but there was coconut fibers, it was filled with coconut fiber or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. And it was yes, loo also because it was supposed to keep people from getting to what then is now what is believed to be whatever treasure, pirate treasure, or because they keep fighting all this other. That's what I'm saying. So then it's either that it's really um that they have set all this up. So it's either the Ark of the Covenant that's buried down there, right? Or there really is like an official pirate's treasure. That's whatever it is, yeah. That then those the water um traps that are there, which has killed like two or three people, yeah, that that's all there, um, like was set up that way because it's these traps are like coming in from the uh from the So someone had time on their hands to make sure that the same. Exactly. So now they're trying to figure out they're saying that this is, you know, that that's what's down there. So now I'm gonna tell you this. So this is me. This isn't that I, you know, from anybody that I read it anywhere or anything. If you ever see how they have the how the light comes into the pyramids, into the tunnels, right? It's kind of like a long and then they have the shafts where the light kind of comes in and whatnot. If you look at how it is that the uh the money pit is in Nova Scotia, and you look at how it comes down and they have all of where that water comes in, it's basically the same kind of says that it looks like in the pyramids. And it's not just the pyramids in Egypt, it's pyramids that have been found all over the you know, all over the planet that they have all these little things in there. And if to me, I said just me, this isn't, you know, this because I'm the geek for all this shit. Like, how did they get it down there? Because even if the Knights Templar and how they did it, because they didn't have machines, they know they didn't. And they had to use manual labor. Right. So now these guys that are there now, I can't think of the brothers' names, the brothers, and um they're the ones who are funding to do all this right now. They have all the nifty machinery. They have getting core samples to see how far down it goes and to find what they can get. That's how they found the coconut fibers, that's how they and then you know, digging up all over the place. They got the excavators, all these crazy back holes. Actually, uh the last thing I was watching, I didn't get a chance to watch it in a while, but they were building up the walls to hold them so this way they don't collapse in on them.
SPEAKER_02:Kind of what they do on the with the road. In the tunnels and stuff, yes.
SPEAKER_01:They have that they that those two pieces of steel that hold everything up. So this way they can park in there, right? So now I haven't watched it. I have to watch this last like two, three seasons to see how far down they got with it. Right. Because the water just keeps coming in. And no matter how much water they put out, no matter how much they dam off where they think that the water entrance is, it still keeps flooding out. Right. It's insane.
SPEAKER_02:They gotta figure out a way to block that water. Right. And they can't stop it. Well, it's island, right? I mean, there's water everywhere.
SPEAKER_03:So that's what so what they think there's a trap that's probably filling, whatever that trap is. So they need to find out where that's finding.
SPEAKER_01:So where they thought that it was was in the swamp. It was a little spot that was a few. Yeah, I remember they drained it. They had drained it and they stopped a lot of the wood that was coming in from this one, but they can't stop it from this one because they can't see where this one is coming in from. You know what I mean? Like it's just all those things and it's at different levels. And they found um, I said so many like the layers of wood, like if it was um almost like uh building floors, yeah. Like first floor, lingerie, second floor, you know what I mean? Like, you mean when they dug the money? As they started digging into the money page. And they like said, they're trying to find all these things. They're finding walls that are there, the history that they keep digging up. Yeah, they dig up things that like you shouldn't be there. A bunch of weird stuff like coins and coins, pottery, you know. Uh they would come to find out that there was a slave that was free, went up there, and they think that he found the money in the money pit or that was buried somewhere else. And he got it out. And he bought up half of the island or a little bit more than half the island. Yeah. And that then that's why they're finding so many different things, because they're finding the foundation for houses and stuff that were there, rock walls, separating properties. So, you know, them looking, it's pretty cool because now they set up a museum over there so you can see all the nifty little things that they found. I mean, they found like, you know, they found pottery, they found, like I said, uh houses, they have the whole thing going on over there, but they can't find the money.
SPEAKER_03:But you know what was the biggest mess up in that? Sorry. No, the biggest mess up in that was the guy in the 60s who like plowed everything. That's blanket chip. Yeah. Like he plowed it all and then they can't find where the original money pit was. Yeah, they're not sure where it is.
SPEAKER_01:Now he just passed away about five or six years ago. Yeah, he just went like scorched earth. Like, let's just dig it up. Right. And that's how a lot of those, that's how a couple of the men that was working with him passed away because they got caught up in there and they died. Wow. And then now they're trying to do it safe because legend has it that there's supposed to be one more person that's supposed to die.
SPEAKER_03:Well, then they shouldn't do it safe.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, but they're trying to make they're trying to break. They don't want to be the one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't want to be the one to die. Yeah, one more is gonna die, then they're gonna find it. Yeah, make it happen. That's what's gonna be. That fucked up, dude. Let's kick him in the hole. All right, let's go, dig it up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, no shit, no shit. That's funny. So, like you're saying, yeah. If the Ark of the Covenant is there, they're trying to figure out how far back now. Because now the Knights Templar were there, you know, like 13,000 years ago or whatever. You know, and now after the scene, like digging up everything, if they find that the Vikings were there, they're finding that they were there just a whole bunch of other cultures, and and along with the Knights Templar had come through. So listen, bro, I'm just saying, right now, if this guy found it, and the angels are saying the angels that were supposedly guarding it are saying, not yet.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, this is interesting. So supposedly the ark was hidden directly beneath the uh crucifixion site where Jesus was crucified. Right, yes, I knew that. Okay, and blood supposedly got on there. And I guess they took a sample of it and they only found that the blood had twenty-four chromosomes, I guess. Is that what it is? Okay. And I think uh we so so dried up blood sample from the mercy seat, blood allegedly. So the mercy seat is on top of the the uh arc and found to have twenty-four chromosomes instead of forty-six discussion prompts science that even sometimes like this would be released.
SPEAKER_01:Now I'm wondering I'm trying to imagine.
SPEAKER_02:So imagine that so there was blood from Christ, supposedly, right where he was because I guess that's all was supposed to happen. That's what makes this all that makes it all holy instead of that was supposed to happen that way. So the ark and then Jesus' blood on top of it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm wondering because what's the the cloth that he was wrapped in that said Jesus was wrapped in? Loincloth? It wasn't loincloth, but there was a cloth that he was wrapped in, it was like a sheet. They have uh and it's supposedly his impression. Yeah, they tried to do DNA for that too, you know, and I don't remember what they found on the side. They're just the shroud of torrents.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I think it was mixed.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02:I think it was mixed, honey.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:So that that's what they couldn't really define whether it was really far back or early.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Right. Too early. Yes. And then too, the other thing that they had said that was supposed to be in the Ark of the Covenant is like the original Bible or, you know, or of the Dead Sea Scrolls kind of stuff and all these things that are to prove that, you know, Jesus, God, the angels, all that stuff were real. You know what I mean? And but we can't find it. You know, wherever, however, there was a a um a map to all of it, it's all gone. Well, we're assuming that it's gone. You know, for all we know now, it could be a big thing. Well, Moses is the one who had it the whole time.
SPEAKER_02:Had the uh the ark. The ark, but and remember, if I'm not mistaken, Moses could not go back to Israel. He did something. Yeah. And he was only he was back to people going. I think he was not allowed to be there, but he had the ark, though.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's the whole thing. So then the way they're wherever they went, it w they took it with them. Right. So then now, if that's now let's just push it. Knights Templar are part of the Catholic Church. Right. So then let's say that they actually have it now, the Ark is in at the Vatican. Responsibility. You know what I'm saying? So they went and they traveled the world and they dropped little seeds all over the place to say, this is where it is. Oh no, it's over here, you know. They just let those little, you know, I left it over here.
SPEAKER_02:And then it's really It's my understanding that the Knights Templar, who helped gather all that stuff and for the church and everything that they did. But they got to a point where but they knew the real deal and what was really real and what wasn't. The church was doing something different. Right. They weren't following that. So they had their own own clique. Right. They actually wound up becoming their own entity and then the church killed them off. But they didn't believe the same way the church did either. Right. They did not believe in the Roman Catholic ways. They believed in God and then they believed you know, all it but they didn't believe in that mindset. Yes. The Roman Catholic mindset. They were like followers of Jesus, I feel like they believed he was yeah, you know, but they had a different look on it. They looked I think they looked at it more logically. They were more Gnosticism, yes kind of were the ones who protected most of that stuff. They were the ones who held on to it. Right. Because they hid it and they held on to it, and then I guess somehow the church manipulated them somehow, and then they wound up. Yeah, and that's why they were banished and all the other stuff.
SPEAKER_03:We wouldn't say Tom. Here's a weird thing. Imagine if it was in New Jersey. Because here's the thing, I I boggles my mind. All right. So when I take Route 23, I go up north, I go through Vernon. As I'm going through that main road that goes up to Vernon from Route 23, I forget what road that is. Listen, if you know where it is, don't tell everybody. No, just every time I pass it, there is a row uh a road with no entrance, a tiny dirt road, and there's a stone that's painted white with a red cross that looks like the Knights Templar cross. Oh, yeah. So one day I go on Google Maps and I look at it, and it belongs to some church group. So maybe they're hiding inside. And there you go. They might think that's right. They put the Knight's Templar thing right there, uh, just on a rock. I'm gonna take a screenshot of it and I'll put it on the video. Yeah, it'll be right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:This is it. Yeah, dude. But that's the whole thing, man. Think about it. This is something that people have been looking for for centuries. Right. Right? And they can't find it. Good. Well, I don't know. Is it good?
SPEAKER_02:Well, or is it just the wrong people to get in there? That's the problem.
SPEAKER_03:If somebody can find it, then that's a good thing. But at that point, if no one could ever find it, then what's the point of So if it's power that you don't want in the wrong way?
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's the thing. And that's that's what we're saying.
SPEAKER_03:What is it?
SPEAKER_01:You know, I want to know what's in it.
SPEAKER_03:Could it be like Indiana Jones and the Lord Farm? If they open it up and everybody just turns into it, don't look at it. I would look I would look at it and I wouldn't open it.
SPEAKER_02:You wouldn't open it. Right. Right? You've got to be respectful. And that's I'm not an archaeologist, and I wouldn't even just just be in things that you know, right? Because we're so, you know, science and you know, science fiction and all the shit that we got. So all that's tough to run into your hand.
SPEAKER_01:Well look at it. I'd put on the lead gloves and open it in the other guy's direction.
SPEAKER_03:Hey guys, look at this.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, check that out. Let's say it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It might still blow your hands off. You never know. And there you go. So then if you know what all these guys, what the I said, the ancient alien guys are saying is that, you know, there could be something like a weapon in there. Could it be like a could it be used like a WMD?
SPEAKER_03:That's what we're saying. What's if you televised it? Oh, we're gonna show everybody in the world the arc of the cover and they look at it on TV.
SPEAKER_02:And it could be the one thing, the one uh it's got nothing, it's a box. It would be the one weapon that would probably be able to wipe out the entire world earth. And that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03:If everybody was watching it, if everybody because if if you look at it, so if you look at it, even if it's on TV, and you just like die and turn into a skeleton. Yeah. Could you imagine be like everybody to watch it on TV? Times Square looking at the picture. Yeah, watching the show. And just watch everybody Times Square turn into skeletons.
SPEAKER_01:I wish you do a short on that, man. That was Independence Day. Independence Day when everybody went to the groove and they was like blue their asses up and stuff. That was me up, too. Or it could be something like if anybody saw the date uh.
SPEAKER_03:As much as I want aliens to come here, I would not test that theory.
SPEAKER_01:I would be I'll wait from far and find out something. I mean, think about it. If it is that somebody goes and they find the arc, and the arc is something, like you said, it's a weapon. Right. Now it's a matter of whose hands it falls into. You know what I mean? Like who finds it, who they're gonna tell, which government or you know, or or whatever is gonna actually be the ones to try to grab it and do whatever they're doing to it. Right. You know what I'm saying? But if it is that it's they finally have it, somebody finds it, when they open it, it's the SOS to whoever the aliens are. Or that it's really that, you know, that God is God and there is that God and that God comes down because now that's the SOS to official God. You feel what I'm saying? It's like it's but I'm saying it depends on who you're talking to, who's everybody has their own beliefs. Everybody has their own beliefs and feelings as to what it is.
SPEAKER_02:But as far as where it is and where it's hidden, who knows it though who doesn't know if they actually hid it on purpose, and that's why they're not able to find it. In other words, exactly. They knew what it was, and they were like, Yeah, we need to hide this, make sure that nobody ever finds it. Yeah. And it stays right where it's at. Exactly. And then how far how long back how far back it was, how long ago.
SPEAKER_01:Would have to be Moses' time or or later. Yeah, because now they're finding out, I guess we're saying they're trying to put the timeline on a lot of the stuff, you know what I mean? And they're dissecting all the religious uh books, you know, the Bibles, and trying to figure out how far people are. So then we don't even know how. How old the Dead Sea Scrolls are. They're old. We don't know how like they're telling us it's only 10,000 years old. In actuality, I think they're saying they're they they might be older, right?
SPEAKER_02:But don't forget, too. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03:What were you going to say? Well if the dead if the Dead Sea Scrolls are that old, then who are they talking about?
SPEAKER_02:Because if Jesus Christ is what the whole time is No, that's not what that's not the idea. The whole point is that they go it's not only about the Jesus and Moses. It goes from even before then. Right.
SPEAKER_03:So what you're getting is history before then came. You know what I mean? So are they more than one scroll from different time periods? Yes. Okay. They were in like pottery. They found them in jars on the original. Right. So I thought it was just one period piece about one thing.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Well, it's just part of it. That's what we're saying.
SPEAKER_02:And these were actual writings. They weren't like the Bible or anything. What's that? It was like it was pirates?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, Luke. Recorded, right? Right, yes. So that then how far back does it go? Because see, so now, you know, me, my geeking out moment again. That they turn around on their uh people doing the history checks, finding all these artifacts, things where they like our timeline is off. So when we are in 2025, an actuality, because there was a civilization before us, right, and then that, you know, whatever happened, whether it was the great flood, the super earthquake, the super volcano, yeah, like that, there's whatever it was that then stopped civilization. Yeah. And we basically had to start over. Yeah. So then we are. Exactly. So that then, but it so that then there were all those, you know, the flying cars, and we were advanced civilizations. I wonder where Atlantis. I know that's a theory. But there's so many different things that we could put together and say, don't forget, they say there's an inner earth.
SPEAKER_03:I know there's that. That's really interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Because listen, but it's pretty big, man. There's probably spots that you don't know about that you could get into that would be almost similar to like a second earth on Earth. Yeah. Or in Earth. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that's another theory about UAP or because people keep saying, oh, it comes they come from the ocean. They think it's inner earth, the access port is from the ocean. Right. Yeah. Then they're coming up to see things and then coming back down. And they're not from outer space.
SPEAKER_02:So now you think about it. Well, maybe they are, and that's it's just easier for them to camouflage people water.
SPEAKER_03:No, but the other theory is that they're like it's another civilization that lives inside the plant.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Kind of like it's like the at the center of the earth. Or the abyss, right? Absolutely. I totally agree. So that then it's now, okay, so if there is, maybe the ark is down there. You know what I mean? That the arc, because if the ark was that power source civilization and is actually using living with it. Or protecting it. Or protecting it, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Or again again, maybe people said it was God, but they just called the inner earth people God.
SPEAKER_01:You see what I'm saying? Right. Because they came up, you know, everything that they're God, you know.
SPEAKER_03:They don't know. This is the person who created all life.
SPEAKER_01:Or maybe it is. That's another day. They're not wrong.
SPEAKER_03:It's just not what we've never mentioned.
SPEAKER_02:You gotta remember a bearded man in the sky. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, right. Well, what was the actual interpretation that they got for them to, you know, how did they whatever it was that they saw, how did they interpret it? Because for back then, it was a different mindset. We can't compare us to them. Like if we went there now, we'd be way far advanced in them. Wait in a lot of ways. You know what I mean? And in other ways, we would be very uh wouldn't be able to survive because of the climate. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, think about it. If you want to, we're we're we're really going far out this one. That's just who we are. That's what we do. But no, like you know how they it says in the Bible, it says God created created man in the in in his image, right? Well, aliens have two arms, two legs, two eyes, and they tried making us. Oh, we'll make these two arms, two legs, new two. They walk on two legs, it's just we're, you know. So it's in their the you know, it could be in the humanoid shape.
SPEAKER_01:Shape. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? But it just wasn't that different species of humanoid. Of higher intelligence being because we don't even know. So then if there are people, people, other human, whatever, living, look at what they always used to say that like the mer people look like. You know what I mean? Mermaids, other than having the fin from the waist up. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like mermaid, you know, they all that's what they were brought like. You know what I'm saying? When they show people that have lived in the dark, whatever, because they're mad because the mermaids are always hot, bros. You know, the sitters always try to get stuff.
SPEAKER_02:You guys are forgetting another thing though, yeah, when it comes to all the stuff we're talking about. Uh-huh. Spear of destiny.
SPEAKER_04:Holy Lance.
SPEAKER_02:Sounds like a movie. Spear of St. Longinus, the Spear of Destiny. The Holy Spirit is alleged to be the lance that pierced the side of Jesus as he hung on the cross during crucifixion. As with other instruments of the Passion, the lance is only briefly mentioned in the Christian Bible, but later became the subject of extra biblical traditions in the medieval church. Right. Relics perpetrated to be the lance began to appear as early as the sixth century, originally in Jerusalem by the late Middle Ages. Relics identified as the spear of the Holy Lance or fragments thereof have been discovered through throughout Europe. Several of these artifacts are still preserved this day. I believe the guy who is Saint Leginus, I think that's what it was, right? I think that was the guy who actually stabbed him. Oh, I don't remember. Because I I think the story I'll look it up. Right. And then he became because the blood got on him, I think. But he was then he believed in Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_01:But he was a soldier. Yeah. Okay, he was, yeah. Okay, so the one who sat in the wag was the same.
SPEAKER_02:And then all he did was he just prayed he preached his word from that point on for the rest of his life.
SPEAKER_01:I understand. Well, so then now having the spear of destiny, in all honesty, and the covenant, the arc of the covenant, because I mean I I don't believe that they had the spear. Right. That's me. I don't believe that they anybody has the spear. Because they said that all the powers that come with the spear. Ah. You know what I mean? It's not that you're just holding this stick with a little with a little rock blade on it. Supposed to have it, and you know, you become all powerful, people are following you. Like, you know, because I watch all those shows, everything from anime to um to live action shows and movies, the dictators that have had it. So, you know, Napoleon, Hitler, they said that they think that they were either had it in their possession at some point in time that got them to where they were, and then somebody came and took it from them and it was hidden again. You know, I said in anime. I love anime. They have it in a couple of those too, where it was if somebody had it, they became all powerful. Those are my favorite type of anime, is by the way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Act-to-action animes. Like the ones that are not like kitty.
SPEAKER_01:They're like a watching, it's like an animated. I'm not talking about Dragon Ball. I'm talking like solo leveling is very vampire hunter, yes, hunters and other games. That's from the 90s, right? So when you watch those and you watch that nifty story, these are things that they can get away with in the animation and that they can't say and do in live action because people's feelings get hurt. And also, they can be more gory, actually. Yeah. I've seen some stuff, and I'm like, geez. Right. There was one. Matter of fact, now you just say that nobody had one because we're talking about what you got, Lou. No, no, go on. So there was, I believe there was one, I can't remember the name of it. I only saw the trailer. I didn't watch the whole thing. Yeah. That it was all about just all Bible stuff, like religious stuff, and the stories of how we're speaking, not on like it wasn't like the Catholic Church released this anime and it's supposed to be like all Catholic or all Muslim or whatever. This like we're talking. What if the ark is this? And what if the aliens and who gets the power and the spear? What movie was it that they had? There was the spear of destiny. There was a movie. I think you're thinking the pick of destiny. No, no, no, no. Oh, um, the librarians. The TV show Noah Wilde. I didn't see that one. Yeah, and he it was uh they he it was on that one that they were talking about finding the spirit. They collect artifacts to save people from doing things and being too powerful or hurting themselves and others or whatever, and they put it into the quote unquote library. And it's Noah Wilde and a handful of people, handful of like his little team, and they use different artifacts to be able to go and hunt for the other stuff. It's a cool show, man. It really is. He's not doing it right now because he's doing that show, The Pit. So if anybody hasn't watched The Pit, you gotta watch it.
SPEAKER_03:I've never watched it.
SPEAKER_01:You gotta watch it, bro. The pit is the first season was good.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, dude. I went through every emotion, but like I needed. Maybe I will. She is she likes it. You know what is I I I got so like done with hospital shows.
SPEAKER_01:You gotta watch this one, bro. Yeah. This is official. There's this other stuff in the going on in the background about it. It's really good. Yeah, all right. Maybe I'll get it.
SPEAKER_03:You know, it's just like I've I've I keep seeing the same show again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:When it comes to hospital shows like Grace Anatomy, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not this is that times 10. Like with a good storyline. But Noah Watch. I liked House, though.
SPEAKER_03:That was good. But you know what? The thing is, I I don't I like story arc shows. I don't like format shows. Yeah, no, I mean format shows have story arcs in them, but like, you know, it's like, oh, house this is a problem. Oh, I find something.
SPEAKER_02:I think I don't want to watch it either. But yeah, when we started watching it, we got hooked like on the first and second episode. I'm gonna give it a shot. I'm gonna give it a shot.
SPEAKER_01:It took me a week to watch all the episodes. And it's it goes hour by hour on his shift. So it's not like come back next week and you'll see this happening. It's hour by hour of his of his shift. Yeah, it's freaking great. All right. But anyways, so Noah Weil in the show. He's from Aurelio. He's in the show to librarians. Okay, and he was the librarian that would end up going, say, with his team and finding these things. And they had the Ark of the Covenant and they had the spear, and they had all these things. Some religious artifacts and others is just haunted stuff or whatever. But this is again what you want to think about all these things, what kind of power could they give you? Hiding the ark, hiding the spear, it's probably the better, it's probably better for mankind.
SPEAKER_02:If they have really any power at all.
SPEAKER_01:If they even have any power at all. But it's like we don't know that. So like we could turn around and we could build one and say, we found it, we found it. It was in Jersey. You know what I'm saying? And we got it. And then now people are like, oh my God, and now we're King.
SPEAKER_02:We're hopeful.
unknown:Ha!
SPEAKER_01:Big bugs money. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that you know, is all these things that it's what people feel like they need, is what they feel like they want. Everything that's been written, spoken, history, whatever, stories passed on, all these things are all powerful. And it's gonna make whoever is.
SPEAKER_02:But we do need if we really know that. We don't know if they're all powerful.
SPEAKER_01:Well, but no, say, but it's about but see, it's about what I'm trying to say is what people believe. People are gonna take and say, have it. Well, I got you. I mean, you're talking about people who are probably looking for it, want to buy it. Right. Yeah, whether buying it or just say that because you have it, you are like I said, that we're so now you have all this power now. Now we have all this power. Now people are gonna give us money. Now people are gonna want to be part of our religion. And whoever gets it, if they're evil, they're still in the wheel. And like I said, that's why That's why no one should find us.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I was saying earlier. Right. It's better that we don't know where they're at. Right. Yeah. Like I said, they you know, the the word was that Napoleon had it until it was taken away from him. You know, this word that was that Hitler had come across it and used it to what he felt was his advantage. It's all the little things and they were looking for all that shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. They still say that Hitler destroyed the thing. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Because but again, well, you know, that was the what about that that the the library that got destroyed at the point of the bigger. Yeah, right. What was this? It was supposed to be like this a maze that had all the fucking history of the world.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Super metal, the metals that were in it, right? Right. Yeah. Didn't they cover it with wallpaper or something so they remove it?
SPEAKER_03:But it was just like No, no, it wasn't like it was like a library in like ancient Greece. Like it was multi-library.
SPEAKER_01:Ancient history, though. Right. Like, I can't remember what it was, what the name of it was. It wasn't part of it. I forget what it was. I can't remember the name of it, but I know what you're talking about. And yeah, but there you go. They were burning these things, but through history. They were burnt down, things were erased, erased parts of history to that this way they could start over.
SPEAKER_03:They did erase history if the arc showed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. Real quick. All that thought. Right, right. Constantine, who was a Roman emperor, right, converted to Catholicism. Right. Yes. When he did, he got all the all the people together that he needed as far as Christianity, because it wasn't Roman until he did it. Then they changed it. They got all the information that they wanted, and they decided to put out only certain things and changed it to what they wanted to be.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So when he got his hands on it.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So that's when it when it switched over, and then it went. So we really don't know what the truth is because he changed it too. Yeah. Even though his mother looked for the cross that uh Jesus was crucified on, his mother went all over the place looking for him. Right. They were like definitely focused on Jesus and you know, all that, but still don't think they were very good people anyway to begin with. Right. Regardless. But then that's how it started when the Roman Catholic Church started going, it was because that's when it started. It's interesting. You should look it up. There's a lot of good information there.
SPEAKER_01:And think about it, bro. That's a story that was part of all these things. You know what I mean? It's another, you know, what I say, we want to call it a legend, you know, a folklore, yeah, whatever you want to call it. It's that these are things that people believe that uh all these artifacts would bring to people. That the people that will come down to save us, to help us.
SPEAKER_02:It would be cool to find it. I mean, of course, it would be cool to find it. Like, what about those people who find like dinosaur bones in their yard and shit like that? I mean, yeah. It's a goal line. You don't have to be an archaeologist to know when you see something and go, it doesn't look right. You know, if you find a big dinosaur bone that I think it happened in Middletown already. I think it's somebody found that. Yeah. So think about it. The museum alone is gonna want that. So imagine if you found the sphere of destiny or the Ark of the Covenant, right, or the Holy Grail, but you can't pass the seal, though. Right.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. There you go. You can't do it. You gotta have it right here. Drink it here. Well, you got it right there. But so again, these are the things that are interesting. These are the things that, you know, inquiring minds do want to know. I think it's cool.
SPEAKER_02:Don't you I know you guys have seen what I do. I always sit down and watch the Discovery Channel and watching the archaeology when they go into Egypt and they try to read stuff from the what they were thinking, and what were they doing, how they imported the stone to make those crazy palaces and things. Just amazing. Just but I love all that stuff, you know. Yeah. And then when they look for all the odd things too, you think I watched one where they were they thought they found the bones of Jesus Christ and they were trying, yeah, they were trying to uh to figure it out, but they couldn't really get a conclusive amount. But that's that's pretty cool stuff. I yeah, I always love that stuff. There's always just because it's history, right? And it's it's interesting because it it's based in religion and it has all power and things like that, right? Supposedly so because it has that kind of lore to it. Right. Okay. Because of that. And I mean it's like, oh really, it was all powerful. So you know, could it do this, could do that? That's why we were saying earlier, do we really want to find these goddamn things? So I'm not saying that they don't, right? But I'm not saying they do either. At the same time, I don't want to be near him. You know what I mean? Can it help me win the lottery? Yeah, well, bring her over. If you but if you find it, you could be that could be your lottery. Right, because if you found that, think of what somebody would want. It would be priceless.
SPEAKER_01:No price that they can give you the uh the right amount of money for it. But think about all the things that we watch, all the things that we read, and and right now, just what this convo was about. If we knew what would happen if we opened these things up and whatnot, we could be, you know, super smart. We could, you know, come up with the the cure for cancer. You know what I'm saying? We could do all these things because of us opening. Superhero. Yeah, exactly. Taking the um the spear and you turn around and you know somebody's got whatever disease and you put it onto their forehead and they're all cured. You know what I'm saying? You could run it over their body, kind of thing. I just, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Here's the question though. What would happen if someone used the spear to spear someone?
SPEAKER_01:Does it not kill them? Maybe not because it's not. No, because if they turn around, right? Does the the soldier that just that you said stabbed? So if he turned around and he did it, the blood of Jesus got on him. Yeah, he changed his ways. Yeah. Said then now, because blood's uh guy uh Jesus' DNA is on that spear, if that person gets stuck with it, is that the reincarnation? Is that the second coming? Don't don't use the spear on someone because that means the end of the world, right? Yeah, right. You never know, bro. He come back like, you didn't listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? It's just one of those things.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, that'll be for the next one, Lou. Yeah, no, but hey, did you ever remember you remember the real quick? You ever hear of the movie? I think it was called The Red Robe. No. It's an old movie. So when it was done around when Ben Hur was came out and the Ten Commandments, all those movies came out. And most of the time it had Charlton Heston in it anyway. But this I don't think this one did. I don't remember exactly how he got I don't know if the robe laid on Jesus or on him or whatever. I thought the red robe. Yeah. When this soldier wore it, he couldn't help but not to do what he was supposed to do as a soldier. I remember and everybody who got in contact with it. It's an old movie. Yeah. I and my mother made me watch it with her once because she was into all those movies, Ben Her. Yeah. And Ben Hur wasn't even a real character. But it was still a great movie, right? Because he encountered Jesus Christ. Jesus gave him water, and then he crossed with Jesus again, where Jesus was the one who needed the water and he gave it to him.
SPEAKER_01:He gave it to him in the movie. Come on, good movie. Listen, it's a great story. It's cool to listen, come up with our own ideas, thoughts, feelings on it. It's just one of them cool things. So I appreciate you picking that one. That was pretty cool. I dig it. Yeah, I figured it would be a good one for us to do. So I appreciate everybody for listening and watching and all that stuff. So with that, thank y'all for listening. Like, follow, subscribe, all that other good stuff. Love, peace, and hair grease. Live long and prosper. And keep trying to find that arc. Or don't. Thank y'all.
