Why Star Wars Still Works

Star Wars was once just Star Wars, and watching it that way changes everything. We go live from Crawford Studios DC to start a full rewatch in release order, beginning with the 1977 film later labeled A New Hope, and we try to remember what it felt like when there were no prequels, no Disney era lore, and no built in explanations.

We talk through the movie’s lightning fast worldbuilding: the opening crawl, the Star Destroyer overhead, Vader’s first terrifying steps, and Leia’s stubborn courage under pressure. From there we follow Luke Skywalker as a frustrated farm kid who stumbles into a classic hero’s journey, meets Obi Wan Kenobi, and gets his first taste of the Force through those early “Jedi mind trick” moments that instantly became pop culture. We also stop at Mos Eisley to explain why the cantina scene makes the galaxy feel huge, dangerous, and weird in the best way, and we revisit Han Solo’s introduction plus the never ending “who shot first” argument.

Then we get into the real nightmares: Tarkin’s cold command, the Death Star as a moon sized villain, and the gut punch of Alderaan’s destruction. We break down Obi Wan versus Vader as a small fight loaded with history and respect, and we close with the trench run, Luke’s choice to trust the Force, and Han’s last second return that flips his character. If you love Star Wars analysis, original trilogy talk, and film history around practical effects and blockbuster pacing, you’re in the right place. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a rewatch, and leave a review telling us which moment made you fall in love with Star Wars.

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Transcript

Going Live And Setting The Plan

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Fuck it. We're doing live! Live from Crawford Studios DC.

SPEAKER_05 0:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:06

Woohoo! Yes, I did. So before it was New Hope, before prequels, before Disney, before the lore, it was just Star Wars. Yes. And today we're starting the whole saga in release order.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Yes. Nice. That's awesome. Yes, do it. This is gonna be, and this is the lead up to our who and to the what.

SPEAKER_04 0:28

So what we're gonna do is every other episode, we are going to talk about each Star Wars episode. Because we all love Star Wars. We're gonna every other episode and we're gonna do it in release order. So we'll have home. Not chronological order. Because here's the thing if you were to watch it, if if you were gonna talk about it and we're gonna start talking about the prequels, you're not gonna know what's going on without background. So we wanna start it from the starting point. Maybe there'll be some Star Wars, obviously some Star Wars fans, but maybe there'll be people who don't know much about Star Wars. Maybe they learn a few things. A whole lot of Star Wars fans. A lot of them. Yeah. So yeah, so now remember, when Star Wars was first released, now a lot of people don't realize it. It's like one of the old old OG retcons is that fact that it was originally called Star Wars. Right. And then I think when Empire Strikes Century they went back and called it episode four New Hope, which might have confused a lot of people because say, wait, wait, wait, wait, why are we starting uh an episode four? Right. Which later, you know, in the nineties, you know, late nineties into early two thousands. Right. We'll get there. Yes. Right. Right now. So right now. So but imagine, you know, imagine seeing this movie in 1977 with no context. Yeah. Right? I did. So you guys did. I didn't because I was uh I wasn't born until 81. I did see it. I was uh, you know, uh I think I was when I was born, I think the only movie that w came out from the original trilogy was uh Jet Return of the Jedi. Okay. Oh wow, really? Yeah. Okay, all right. Yeah, uh so there was no prequels. Right. There was no Skywalker saga. Right. You know, there was Luke Skywalker, and that's the only Skywalker anyone knew. Right. That's right. Yeah. Uh and no one knew who Vader was before he came legendary. He was just a a villain. Yeah, just that big bad guy.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Right. Yeah. I mean, and then of course as you watch the four, five, and six, but right now we're just going through four for the moment. Right. Yeah. That explains it, right? So in some sense, no?

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now when you saw it, Lou, right in the theater. Yes. Right? I remember. So Tom's question was imagine walking in there and then just seeing the movie with no context. Do you remember how you felt when you left the movie theater?

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Oh, I was pumped. I loved it. Right? Yeah. Yeah, because I remember it was a great fucking movie. Hell yeah. I I know I I was pumped and I loved it. Yeah. Any movie that was good, I loved going to the movies in the first place. Right. My family did it, and of course I did it, right? So and uh yeah, it was just nice. When you see a good movie and it's and it it and you're a kid, well, how old was it? Yeah. So when when did it come out? 77. Oh 76, I would have been tense or I was 11 years old. Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

And it was just it was it and I saw it, I was a little bit younger because I was uh seven years old. That movie was Yeah, it blew your mind because you've never seen anything like that.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

And at the time, what was like the cultural impact? Well, it did it didn't Yeah, I don't think it did. It did. I think when it hit the second movie, yeah, is when you really start picking up. Okay, fair enough.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

So yeah, so we're picking, like I said, we're picking Star Wars because uh it's the original trilogy. We want to start off with the original trilogy. That's the basis for all Star Wars. Right. You know, we don't go in episode order, so we're starting with that. Right. You know, it's the foundation of the entire Star Wars universe. Right. Yeah. So it's important that we start with the original trilogy instead of starting with episode one. We're gonna go in release order.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Right. Right. So now you're looking at here it is where a new hope, you get this kid who is uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Is it New Hope or is it just Star Wars?

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah, New Star Wars A New Hope. Yeah, but that was later, though.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

No, no, no. Star Wars is a new hope. I know that, but that's not how it came out when it came out of the movies. I thought it was. No, it didn't. It was just Star Wars. I don't remember I would say New Hope. Didn't it? Wasn't that the whole point of your bringing up, Tom? Yeah, when it came out, it was just called Star Wars. Was it? I could have sworn, bro.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

See, a Mandela effect, bro. We spoke on that shit and it just stayed in my head. I could have sworn it was a new hope back in the day, too. My bad. He just said all of that. Yeah. My bad. I'm sorry. It was just called Star Wars. Just Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

That didn't come until after when the other three came out. That's the way I think it happened. I could be wrong, but now the new hope, because now you saw all the other three movies.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

I could have sworn I saw New Hope on that shit, man, back in the eight.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

But anyway, look ahead. I'm sorry. So go ahead. Oh, yeah. So that's the whole reason we're gonna do it. So yeah.

Why Release Order Matters

SPEAKER_04 4:47

Okay. So let's do it. Yeah, of course. Now uh so the other movies that were around at that time. So let's give a little background of what's going on here. So the other movies that were out at the time were Jaws. Right. Great. Yeah. I love that movie. Taxi Driver. Yeah. I didn't know I was too young for that one. I don't know if the first godfather or the second godfather was just the first one.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Because the whole thing. So it was probably the whole saga. I think it was around the.

SPEAKER_04 5:13

You had all these movies out, and then all of a sudden you had Space Wizards, Robots, and Laser Swords. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 5:19

That's why that's what probably I think why it was that it was so attracting. Yeah, right. I guess. Attractive. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it just because it was that sci-fi. You know, we didn't have what else did we, I mean, because we didn't have anything else at that moment. Like you said, just was the craziest one.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

For those movies that were out at that time. Yeah, for that kind of stuff. It wasn't the whole, you know, the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Everything with the super drama stuff, taxi driver. Nobody saw taxi driver. That shit was a super drama out of that.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Jody Forster was in that movie in Europe. That was a crazy movie. You know what? I gotta be honest with you, I've never seen that movie.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Oh, no kidding.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

I never had any desire to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Yeah. It's a cool flick, man.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

I've seen one like one. I've seen parts of it. Right. That movie. But anyway, going back to what Tom was talking about with the Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

So I was saying, so like then all having that fantasy, that space fantasy, you know, it's like, whoa, we could travel in outer space. Lightsabers? What? The force? People lost their minds, man. You know what I mean? Like, yo, junk and you know, like light speed. Light speed, yeah, ludicrous.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

I mean, actually, do they ever call it light speed or do they just call it hyper hyperspace? Hyperspace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

And in Star Trek, it's um lightspeed. No, it's not light. No, it's not warp. No, warp speed. No. Warp speed and star trek. But no, isn't it light speed with the Millennium Falcon? Maybe. Well, what is it? Look it up. Come on, man. You're right.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

It's just hyperspace. But no, hyperspace, I think, uh, I thought it was just hyperspace. Yeah. But uh but you're right, Tom. To have that like space wizards. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 6:49

You're saying that you know, so it was a it was a big different type of movie. And I think that's probably what attracted to different because there was other sci-fi movies back then, but none of them aside from Star Trek. But I don't know if they named the movies then. Was it still only in the movie? No, it was afterwards.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:03

Okay, it was still a TV show at that point. So like there wasn't any really big sci-fi movies. They had some, but like it wasn't. They were always like Yeah, like, you know, like before that it was like the stuff that you watch, you've you watch on Mystery Science Theater that they make the cheesy. You know, the cheesy sci-fi movies back then. A lot of them were really cheesy back then. This was like the first one that I think people really took seriously and and kind of broke through that like weird, obscure thing. It broke through that. Yeah. And I think it had the magic formula because they were like, we're gonna do um a sci-fi movie, but it's kind of like a medieval movie. Yeah. Right. You know, you got the swords, or like more, I would say they're more like samurai. But you know what I mean? Okay, yeah, but because they were fighting. Right and Sith back then. It was just the dark side and the light side. But they were kind of like, you know, like samurai stuff, yeah, samurai ninja stuff. You know, the Darth Vader helmet is modeled after the Sith Shogun helmet or whatever. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

He's kind of you know it's kind of got that samurai element to it. Yeah, well, even like with the way that they fight is more martial arts than you know, a fist fight or you know, like samurai type.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

Even a name Obi-Wan Kenobi, that sounds a little bit 'cause I think it could be like cut like Japanese a little bit, right? A little bit. Yeah. Does that yeah. So I think that's pretty cool, you know? I think that definitely had to like attract people.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

And and all the things that they had in the movie. You know, it's like can you remember what your favorite gadget was in the movie besides the lightsaber? Gadget? So like they had so the lightsaber, you know, then you had the cars, you had the droids.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Well wouldn't lightsaber a a weapon though? Not a gadget, really.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Well, I'm gonna say gadget because I'm just saying things in general. Things out in general. Yeah, just because you know you had you had the floating cars, you know. Yeah, those had the um That would be nice. The lightsabers, you had the I mean the telephone, we already know, you know, the communicators and stuff like that. The laser guns, it wasn't the bullets.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

They saw a lot different though. Didn't he like have a whole handheld when they talked and saying it was like just a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

And then you had, you know, the the all the soldiers were dressed up like full. And it was like a whole arm, you know, that head-to-the-screen. Right, yeah. I think that's kind of where they got that. I'm sure let's make them look like an astronaut space. Yeah, yeah, basically. That's what they I mean that's uh people.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

I've heard that before too. I but I I forgot about it. I'm not gonna lie. That was uh that's funny.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

But you know, but I mean but especially in the sequels, I mean they really look like with the with the Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

They had the black uniform, they had the red uniform. Yes. We're getting ahead of ourselves. But yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But like I said, so and it's even with the droids and stuff, you had the different kind of droids, you know, that help fly the little things that, you know, they said put them in the in the X-Ring fighters and they would have to be.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

The droids were cool to have.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

Yeah, that would be cool. So now here we go, fast forward, and here we are where you know, to see movies like iRobot, you know, and people that now they can have Alexa in their house. You know what I'm saying? That's almost like to me, it's like getting closer to having that kind of stuff. Never know. I'm just saying, I wouldn't mind having a little R2 D2.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

I'm sure if we looked around, looked it up, we'd probably see it.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Dude, you know what I would do to have a little R2D2 that I can just put up in my car and you could tell me where the cops are and what traffic is looking like in the office.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

You just put it on your phone and it's dead.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Well, yeah, but it'd be fun for it to be a you know an R2D2. I'm just saying, I would love that. Follow you around all the time?

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Yeah, why not, bro? That'd be fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

One of crazy adventures and shit.

The Opening Crawl Changed Movies

SPEAKER_04 10:33

Yeah, that'd be so funny. So yeah, so the um so now you got the opening scene, right? Right. The opening scene is uh that was the one that changed everything, right? You got um, first of all, the the crawl. That was I don't think anybody's ever done that kind of thing. Maybe they had some words flash. Right, but yeah, this whole thing was just like Oh, you mean and that was and that scene really changed opening scene for movies. I feel like that really uh like you know, and so you so you got that, and then all of a sudden you got the giant Star Destroyer.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Yeah, just coming in.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Right, yeah, you're seeing this massive ship. Yeah, and it's shooting this little and that whole scene, you know what I'm I'm saying? Like you got the tiny rebel ship, you got this massive Star Destroyer, and then right away, Vader. Yeah, that's you see the villain, you know, and you know, first time I saw the movie, I thought like Vader was like a robot. I thought he was like, I thought he was like a, I mean, technically is a cyborg.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 11:36

Because he's got you know a machine. But but I thought he was like, I thought, honestly, I thought Vader was like, like there was only like a like almost like grievous. Like he was like, I thought maybe there was just a like that, like that breathing machine was all mechanical. Right, okay, like like mechanical lungs, yeah, right. Just like a brain in there. Like I thought he was, or there was like just a well, there was a mangled body in there, but I was thinking like worse, actually. Right, you know, or like just like there's like I said, just like a brain or something like that. But so a lot there was a lot of mystery behind the character of Darth Vader. Most people did not know anything about this guy.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Right. Because it was like you see this huge ass dude walking in.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

We just know he comes in there and he's just commanding stuff. Yes. Find them and destroy them. Yes, like that's yeah, I think that was his first line, maybe, or something like that. Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

And he's got Leia. No, no, find them and bring them to me. Yeah, bring me the droids. Yeah. That's what it was. Because he bring me the droid. Yeah. So he was like, because he won, he needed R2 D2 and and three CPO. That's right. So that's right, because they had the they were the ones who were delivering the message. Right. I want to know where where Obi-Wan was, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_04 12:42

Or that they or the only plans for the Death Star.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Right. Oh, and that too. The plans for the Death Star were on there too. Our only hope. Yes, yes. That was it. You're my only hope.

SPEAKER_04 12:50

Oh, my Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah, my only hope.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

And they kept repeating, kept repeating. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great.

SPEAKER_04 12:57

I can't help but think. A quick sidebar of when uh the episode of SNL, when they were like spoofing like the tryouts where different actors were playing that Barbara Streisand. My only hope.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

That shit was funny. Dan, that's a throwback there, bro. Oh my god. That was so long ago. That is too freaking funny, man. Holy cow, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

So but and the cool thing about that opening scene, right? It tells you right away who the bad guys are, right? Who the rebels are, and how powerful the empire is.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Right. Yeah. Because they just came, they they do, they they for real kicked in the door in that beginning.

SPEAKER_04 13:34

That movie, they did a really good job of world building like fast. Yeah. You didn't have to like figure out too much. Like that opening scene, like pretty much told you the whole basis of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Yeah. Right. Right, because I think there was wasn't the next scene um Luke. With Luke on Tatooine. Yep. So yeah. With his with him and his aunt and uncle. Right. Oh, I want to go hang out with the guys. Yeah. My friends. Oh, Luke, go and uh turn that field. Like, what you know?

SPEAKER_04 14:05

And you know, one of the things that I I wish they didn't um leave out in that movie, one of the deleted scenes is him and his friend. Yes, that's right. Luke Luke has a friend, right? And on Tatooine or whatever, and you see him again later on. Later on. Yeah. And he's with the rebels. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

unknown 14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

I don't know why they left it out. But you know, they they have their reasons.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

They were trying to bring it. Think of how long that movie is, bro. It was long back in the day. That's right. Then when they turned around and they and they did the uh back then that was long movie. They added the scenes. It was longer.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Yep. It was about I think they had it had gone up to like three hours. It was two, two unchanged and it originally came out. And then they kicked it up. It was like almost three, it was about three hours when they had it in the mid-90s when they brought it back and they put in all those uh all the uh deleted scenes and whatnot, all the other good stuff.

Heroes Villains And Instant Archetypes

SPEAKER_04 14:56

So yeah, that's so that whole movie was uh so awesome like that. So but uh yeah, so so the characters that made it work, right? Right. Right off the bat. So you got Luke, right? Right. Farm kid, you know, he's uh he's on that whole hero journey.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

So he got the whole story arc with him. So now here's the thing for me though. He didn't know he was on he was on a hero journey. You know, he just wanted to get off like you know, he just wanted to get out from off the farm. You know what I mean? So I don't know. Do we say that it's a hero journey right off the bat?

SPEAKER_04 15:23

Not right off the bat. So we're just saying what made the movie work. Okay, yeah, because it's a good thing. So he goes from he goes from like this, he goes from like this farm kid to like now he's on like this quest or quest.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

How does he come across the droids again? How does that happen? That's where you had to watch the other movies. No. It tells you in the first movie. He ha he finds the R2 D2, and remember he goes to doesn't he go to find um He had R2.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

R2 was with him in in Star Wars. He had R2, and as far as we know so far, no, I mean like C3 and and they were together from the beginning. Right. So that then he gets them because they came in from the beginning.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Remember they remember they escaped, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Right, and then they landed in the sand look come across them, is what I'm saying. The sand, um the the the sand get the sand people.

SPEAKER_04 16:09

The sand people.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

They had taken them and then they escaped from that and they found Obi-Wan. So the sand, and then Obi-Wan knew where Luke was. Yeah. And then that's how they got to him. He's like, Oh, hey Ben, how's it going? Because he had Luke had gone to Ben's house. Right. And or Ben's. Didn't he save him?

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Because they c they went after Luke, didn't Luke get knocked out, and then Obi-Wan would kind of stumbled upon him. Isn't that what happened?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

No. Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan was watching over Luke. Remember? He knew he knew Luke. And he would come through. He was the he was the crazy hermit guy from down the the other side of the desert.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Because remember, we we didn't even know anything. They didn't we didn't know he was a Jedi. Right. We did never know what Jedi were, yeah. Right. We just knew nothing.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Yeah, the crazy old man down the road or whatever. And then he went to go and get some stuff from the sand people, and that's how he came across the droids because his uncle needed the droids.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

Right. So right.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

So then they had turned around and he and the droids came back.

SPEAKER_04 17:07

So the thing that made it work, like I said, so he he was uh he went from a farm kid to to this this guy and uh this kid on like a hero journey, right? Right. Then you got then you got on solo, right? Yes. On solo, the space smuggler, rogue energy, you know, you got that who shot first, Grito or Hodge?

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that?

SPEAKER_04 17:25

The debate who shot first, but you know, they showed that scene the cantina. That was a great scene, too. And he's and they're you know, that whole scene with the gun and everything. Uh-huh. Like, we're finding out like this, you know, he's he's he's he's he's got danger. You know, this guy, he's he's that guy. He's that guy, he's a smuggler, you know. And uh so they got the whole Cantina scene, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Right, Leia.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

And then that's another, you got the strong layer from the strong, she's a strong lead strong layer, strong leader from the start, you know. So, you know, you see right away, she's right in that front opening scene. She's a little badass. Yeah, she was, yeah, you know, and then as the story comes on, she's uh she remains a badass through the entire Star Wars scene.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Except that one time where he forces her to tell him where but he tortured her, so badass. No, no, no. I'm talking about when the general was doing it to her. And he and he he was in the Death Star and he says to her, Tell me where the rebel bases are gonna be, blah blah blah, whatever it was. And then she's alright, he was gonna blow the planet up, and then she's gonna be like, Right. Oh, that's right. And she said, told him what it was, and he did it anyway. Right, yeah, yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

Remember? Tarkin. Tarkin, yeah. Old man. Yes, that's right. And he blew it up.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Funny thing about him, by the way. He apparently is was like the night Yeah. Uh Carrie Fisher said that like it was kind of hard for to to like fight with him on scene because he was so nice and such a gentleman and such like a really nice, like grandfather type guy. He's a good actor, then. Yeah, that's you know you're a good actor if you're gonna be. He had you believe when he was that guy. He was uh Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh and then you know another character that made it work was Obi-Wan. He's got the whole mentor archetype. Oh he's got wisdom, he's a wise old man. Right. Yep. And you know he's seen some shit. Yeah, like exactly right. Like there's no you're like he's he's weathered, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Because he's so calm. Like you know he's seen some shit. Like, yeah, this is light stuff.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

And you know, jump ahead of the series, but we find out that like the reason why he's so old looking, because you find out time that from you know, when we see him in the prequels to then it's not a lot of time, and he's really old because they say the dual sons aged him more from happening. Is that what it was?

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Yeah, I thought it was the using of uh the force made you a little bit older, depending on how much force you were using.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

No, that's the dark side. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Really? That's what it was. Yeah, no, the side of sworn.

SPEAKER_04 19:56

That's what Gota had said. Oh, but I I I read that it was like because he that because the two the two sons engaged him. I guess that's the excuse.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

No, that makes sense. I mean, you know, but a little bit of the sometime in the sun makes everybody's skin all wrinkled and shit. So and then the other character that made it work, of course, is Vader.

SPEAKER_04 20:12

He was pure intimidation.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Yeah, all day long. Yeah, he did. He scared the hell out of everybody, made them do things, yeah. He walked on deck.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Yeah. I mean, and he was just choking people out, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

It just Yeah, yeah. Without even touching them, using the force to choke them. Just personal force choking people. Choke them motherfooter out. Get his ass. Get his ass.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

Yeah. And then I love how in the later movies, like you find out how strong he was force-choking people that weren't even in the same in the same room.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

It wasn't even in the same room. Yeah, in the same spaceship or nothing. He was yeah, he was serious with it, bro.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

But you learn that later on. Again, I'm getting ahead of myself. No, no, no, no, no. But I mean, how could you not when you're talking about it?

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Don't forget the Troyes, those two were characters as well. Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were. They made movies.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

They did, they did. They helped out a lot. They were good to hold between the two of them. Yeah, it was hilarious. They were always. Yeah, hit him when he said, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

How dare you. Yeah. How dare you are too. And again, like I said, you know, the good thing about Star Wars is that like they set the precedent so fast in the movie. You know, everyone's personality is instantly clear. You know what's going on. There's no like it's not like cloudy. Like, you know, and so that was the thing that really made that movie work, besides the fun and the sci-fi and all that. Yeah, right. Then it started to get serious because yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like when the movie starts to start, start, that's like when you then the uh the cantina.

Mos Eisley Makes The Galaxy Real

SPEAKER_04 21:35

Yeah. So yeah. That's the console.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

That's what you said before.

SPEAKER_04 21:39

All we want is what we're looking for. The reason why so that is like one of the most important scenes in the movie. Right. Um suddenly the universe feels so big because now you got all these different species there. It's not just humans now, because up until that point, you really didn't see exide from the Sam people, right? You didn't see any other, I don't think you any so any other sp No, there wasn't any non-human species. Non-human intelligence. Now we're someone will talk about UFO.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

And not even in the uh in the opening scene when Darth Vader goes into the spaceship to go look for the droids. I don't think they showed us just the stormtroopers and a couple of the other uh rebel soldiers, and they didn't show any other alien or whatever. Right. They were all human.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Yeah, so that's true. That was the only spot.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

So you got a canteen, like, whoa. At word.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

You just like, what? There's a lot of different space.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

She's hanging out here.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Yeah. You know? That's when people I think felt that they wanted to travel the universe. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's why it was like, well, that's when the universe, you know, there's aliens everywhere, bounty hunters, smugglers, and criminals.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

Yep. Now, see, now that reminded me of like, that was the wild, wild west. You know what I mean? That was kind of what you saw when a space version of it. Right, a space version of the wild, wild west, you know. Oh man, what is that line from Obi-Wan?

SPEAKER_04 22:53

There's nothing more than the scum of villainy or something. What is that line? Yeah, I can't remember it. I don't remember. Yeah, Moe's Isley, yeah. Which is the town that, if no one knows, that's the town where the cantina is. Right. Yeah. There's nothing more scum and villainy or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yes. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

The worst of the worst are in this place.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That listen, that that part I think, yes, definitely I don't think I know that that's what started to you really want to like now. You're starting to get vested, you know, on what's going on with Luke and Ben. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And then you said that's where he meets, he ends up meeting up with uh boy. Oh yeah. These are not the druids, you know. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

That's when they first got that's the first time, yeah. Yeah. These are not the droids you're looking for. These are the drawing. Oh, these are not the druids we're looking for.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Yeah, go ahead, get on, get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

And that's like right away, that became pop culture right away. Jedi mind tricks. Because to say that.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

The Jedi mind tricks all day long, bro. That but that's what I'm saying. That's when we started to become more vested in who these characters were. Exactly. You know what I mean? Because like, wait, he could do what? How did he just change them up like that?

SPEAKER_04 23:54

So the other thing is that the first learned that he has power. Right, yes. And then it started. That's the first thing. You learn. What does he do with that? He takes somebody.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Yeah, with the thing. And he looks like a wizard too.

SPEAKER_04 24:04

So you're like, he's old and he's got the ropes.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Right. Oh, he's a space wizard. Uh-huh. Yeah. He's like a he's like a Tibetan monk. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Right? But he goes all this swordsmanship.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Yep. Now, sidebar too. Did you ever see the uh the stop motion on that part, the cantina part? No, no. It used to be an adult swim, the Seth Green thing. You mean the shit, I can't remember the bit. Yo, so it was funny because the one, so the the robot chicken. Robot chicken. Robot chicken, right? So they're sitting there and they sit in the one you can't understand what he was saying. And he's like, so he and the robot chicken, he's saying, you know, come on, I want to get out of here. You know, I just want to have one drink. And the guy's like, Oh, come on. We're gonna have a few drinks, and then that's when Luke goes over there and says, My friend says he can take you, and he's like, in the captions reading, he didn't really say that. It was freaking great. Lost his hands, you gotta see it, bro. It was so funny. If anybody sees robot chicken, you gotta watch that robot chicken. Cantina scene. No, no, no, no. I don't think it's on anyways. I haven't seen it in a while. But I don't watch it like that either.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

But so you got that, right? So the first time you get in the Cantina, and you know, it's the first time meeting Han solo, like I mentioned before. And then you got the that scene they show with with him and Greedo. Right. Yeah. And who shot first? Right. So who do you think shot first?

SPEAKER_02 25:22

I want to know who first. I say Greedo did. Who? The the Han didn't shoot first. Yeah. Greedo shot first. Not Han.

SPEAKER_05 25:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

That's what I say because Han had it under, he was kind of like sitting back and he was like, you know, then they and it's funny because they've that's the whole gun under the table thing.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Right. They've done that now. Ever since that movie, they've done that a lot in movies. Yeah. With the gun under the with the, you know, the gun to the table. Right. I've seen in movies where like a guy's got a fake hand and his real hand on the table.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

I don't know what movie that was. What movie was that? I think that was um It was a more recent movie.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah. Uh shit, man. Double O seven. Not double. Yeah, uh not 007. Yeah, Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible. Yeah, not 007, Mission Impossible. That he had that. He did that. That's funny. But like you said, a lot of movies now. That's the thing. Matter of fact, in the Godfather.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

They're things bite off one another.

SPEAKER_04 26:13

Yeah. But they did a lot of original stuff, is what I'm saying. Yeah, they did. That's what made it so unique. Yeah. Even just these little details.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

And that's the crazy part, man. It was, it was, it was the the beginning of so much cool, so much great, you know, in other movies.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

That was such a perfect time. Well, I was 11, so and I was probably I don't remember when it came out. When did it come out? There's what was the actual date that it came out on?

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Oh, dude. Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Like when the song was released in the theater. I'm gonna say this summer.

The Death Star As Ultimate Threat

SPEAKER_04 26:45

Probably. Yeah. It was probably summer release. So yeah, so so the next thing is we're gonna talk about is the Death Star. Now the Death Star is probably a villain if you think about it in and of itself, even though it's an animate object. It's not a living being, but like that thing was so ominous. I mean, could you imagine a weapon, a space station, the size of a friggin' moon? Right, yeah. It was a whole friggin' size weapon that destroys planets.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Right. How scary is that? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yep. It was May of 77. May.

SPEAKER_04 27:22

Okay, so right before the summer. Okay. So that was late up to the summer, setting the precedent for the summer. Yeah. That's it. So I just turned 11. So you got the so you got this this this moon-sized space station that could destroy planets, right? Right. And the guy who's running it is just this cold, mean, you know, we're talking about Tarkin. And this guy, and and the thing is too, that you know this guy's so mean and cold that like he even is in charge of Vader.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

You know what I mean? Yeah. You find out that this guy is Vader's essentially that because again, uh, I don't think we we saw the Emperor until the second movie. So we didn't see, and by the way, they didn't call him Palpatine. No, just the Emperor. Yeah, just he wasn't known as Palpatine until the prequels. That's right. So he was just the Emperor, and uh he wasn't in this movie. So this guy was Vader's boss. So like that's how you know you're learning the whole like chain of command thing, right? You know, the whole like kind of like they were they're the fascists, they're like space. That's why I say space not because there's all these fascist empire people. This guy's killing it. Kill you with freaking and he and he was just so like and like I said, he was like so good at playing that character, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He played it the way it was supposed to be played. Oh yeah. And you know, Vader is there. Yeah. Right, yeah. So, you know, and then and and and the scene too, that like again we're talking about before is is uh you know, Leia watching her own planet get destroyed. Yeah. And he was so evil, like he tricked her anyway.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

And that's why you you learn that these people are not trustworthy, they're evil, and they will do anything. Yeah. Yep. I'm telling you, bro, that's right away.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

And that's what I'm saying. Like you just you felt that. You felt that, like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 29:06

And then the thing that worked, like we we you know, we use this term space Nazis, but like this was not this was what, twenty something years after World War II?

SPEAKER_00 29:16

So it kind of like people felt that more. Yeah, you know what I mean? You know, like they definitely identified with it that way.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Hell yeah, bro. Yeah, you felt that shit. You felt you felt bad. Like you just found out about how the force works a little bit of just a little bit in the movie, and you felt like you I felt that planet blow up. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you felt that emotion, you know my God. That movie was just amazing. It was waste like it really was, I believe, it was ahead of its time. You know, a lot of the ideas, the thoughts of what a lot of these uh what aliens, you know, people from other planets look like these humanoids look like.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

Yeah, because they just like went to town with all these different looking characters, especially like I said, in that cantina scene.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Yeah, dude. You felt that shit, you know, like I don't know. I guess that I think gave people it just changed how they thought about things. You know what I'm saying? It just made people see things different. I think it gave a different kind of appreciation to different cultures. Well, it just in all honesty.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

Right, and it opened up things more so than the different types of things that you wouldn't normally think about. Right. Because you know, you didn't think it'd be no And then everybody wanted to do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

Right, yeah. And then everybody wanted to be a Jedi, you know, only a few kids wanted to be some people want to be the bat. Yeah, a bunch oh, everybody wanted to be Han Solo, you know what I'm saying, man? Like everybody wanted to be the cool guy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he was the cool guy. Yeah, he really was. Luke and people wanted to be Luke because Luke was the uh, you know, like he was like the underdog, you know. Nobody thought that he was gonna be like, I mean, I tell you, I I probably pretty much I mean, I don't remember exactly, but I'm saying, like now, I would have bet that Han Solo was gonna be the hero, you know what I'm saying? Not Luke. You know, that Luke was gonna fall off and he was gonna be the you know the co-star kind of thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

I was expecting Han Solo to be that guy because Well he kind of was in a sense, because he helped out in the movie, but of course, yeah, it wasn't aimed towards that. Right, you know?

Obi Wan Versus Vader And Respect

SPEAKER_04 31:04

So that's that's yeah, that shit is and then you have the whole, you know, Obi-Wan versus Vader, right? Right. Now that's the that's the cool thing about that, is because that the scene is small, but it's powerful, right? Where they're where they're fighting each other. He um, you know, it the thing is it now you're learning like that, like this, they know each other. Like these, you know, these two characters, important characters, they they have history. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're like, we meet again, like hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

But don't there we go? But Vader, but but Obi-Wan was like, he's here. You know what I'm saying? That's that's right. So he already knew. So that's when he's like, wait, who's here? What are you talking about? Because he's yeah, that's because we're still learning about the force. Right, we still learn about the force. Vader felt him immediately. Vader felt him and Obi-Wan felt him. Yeah. Oh yeah, Obi-Wan felt him right away. He's like, you know, like shit, something's not fucked, man. We're in for it now. Like, you know, we're gonna have to do this shit kind of quick.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

So yeah, you're learning that like the force has like that clairvoyance. Right. Stuff like that. You know, they're like psychics in a way. And and that's another thing. They're like kind of like space psychics, you know, like you got Obi-Wan, the these are not the doids you're looking for. Feel each other, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 32:14

I think what I like is the first one, Star Wars, the first one we saw, the lightsaber fight was okay at the best. But when they came out with the updated version of how it would really probably would have been. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Remember I said you that where they actually had that fight and they're just like throwing each other around in that area where they had the fight, you know, they're throwing shit at each other and using the force, throwing each other back and everything. It was like a epic freaking battle, man. Like, you know, like these two were going to happen. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Well, I'll say this. I I I was kind of upset even back then that that fight scene was so quick, you know, between Obi-Wan's.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Well, because then they didn't I don't think they knew because it was brand new. Right. I don't think they really got into that deep into it as far as the way it was gonna be, but then later on they realized they made it to make it look like some kind of art or something, you know. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

So even though that scene is short, right? Right. So, you know, you notice that Vader respects Obi Wan, even though they have history, even though they clearly are enemies at this point, but you know they respect each other. So that kind of makes you wonder like they have history, and they don't say that they're friends, but like I said, you the way the way they're talking to each other, you know they have some history that they might have used to be friends. You might you kind of can get that inclination a little bit. Yeah, definitely that they might have like been friends before. Right, or knew each other somehow. But weren't but weren't enemies, even at the very point.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

You know what I mean? No, no, for sure. I'm wondering though, if that was more like I mean, me now thinking about it, you know, if that was more, you know, uh uh samurai code, ninja code, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That there was a respect.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we figure things out. So then that was the Jedi code. Right. That was the Jedi code. Like then you got Obi-Wan sacrificed himself. Because of the mass self, right? Right, yeah. So that's another important scene that happens there. Obi-Wan sacrificed himself. Yeah. And, you know, but he disappears. Right. So like people, wait, wait, wait, how come he didn't die? Why does this strike just be down now?

SPEAKER_00 34:12

I'll become more powerful. Than you ever than you could ever imagine.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

And then we're like, oh, like you know, maybe some people were thinking it up.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

He disappeared in front of him.

SPEAKER_04 34:21

Yeah. And then some people were probably wondering, like, he said, drop that line, I'll be more powerful. Maybe they were expecting like a giant, like, you know, something like that. That's what I was.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

I was expecting that crazy shit.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

I was like, what's gonna happen now? They didn't know oh, Force Ghost. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking powerful. Yeah, but how but once you start learning about the Jedi and Sith, you obviously wouldn't turn into something big. Yeah, right, yeah, right, right. Again, right.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

But so just watching Star Wars, I'm with you, like, you know, you would have thought something big was gonna happen. And you know, Luke feels a loss. Fucking hot box. You feel it, man. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he blew it. He met him, they they almost made it to the fucking to the to the ship. And he's like, you dumbass, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

You know, like get in the trick. That whole scene, you know, it's crazy how mythological that scene ends up being. It's like such an important uh scene in that movie.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Oh, yeah, because that's where he starts his journey. Right.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

And Ben is talking to him, you know, now he had Ben in his head. Yeah, but not yet in his head.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Well, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Well, that's what I meant. I meant that way. You know, I guess.

The Trench Run And Han Returns

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Right. Well that's well, that's where I want to get to next. Yeah. Right. So the next part is uh one of the more important scenes that happened in the movie was the famous trench run. Yes. With Luke. So, you know, you got Luke again. You know, they're on a they leave Yavin 4. Right. That's where the rebel base is, right? Yes. And uh so, you know, they're doing this whole attack run, right? And that is when the scene when that's when you find out when you go, use the force. Force, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Well, he but because he has been right, yeah, right, right. Because they want a Death Star to get ready to blow up the Dead Star. But he had told them, right, yeah, like that little that the the bull. But see, when Luke was training, when they first got on the st on the uh millennium Millennium Falcon, and he's got training, right? Or yeah, Ben tells him, use the force. Right, maybe we made him wheel the helmet so we couldn't see it. Right, so he couldn't see anything. He was blind, you know. Well, you know, keep in mind. So this way he could feel the force, use the force. So then when they were in the trench run, that he was supposed to feel it, and that's when he took the uh the targeting thing out.

SPEAKER_04 36:23

The crazy part is you got you got these rebel ships just dropping. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, the TIE fighters. Yeah, yeah, the TIE fighters. Yeah, no, they weren't. And then you got Vader, he's got his special TIE fighters, he's got the Thai advance. We find out later down the road. That is what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was Thai Advanced 2 or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

His ship was like super souped up.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

Yeah, yeah. He had the plush seats and uh, you know, the air conditioning and stuff. Remember, he gets the radio. He does around his hound. Right, yeah, he got shot and it threw him out of the room. It throws him off, right? And he winds up bringing it back to the back. Yeah, bring it back, and yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, the buzz, yeah. And and then Go ahead. I'm sorry, you first say what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 37:02

And then you got, you know, Han returning like the last That last second. You go ahead, kids. Yeah, yeah, he uh you know, he has a change of heart. Yeah. Because he was gonna leave, is take the money and he was gone, bro. Yeah, he was like, I mean, he was gonna be gone forever. You know what I mean? He was he was he was gonna he took the money and that was it. That's what it's what it was. Something last minute kicked into him and he wanted to do it.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

It was Chewaka. He never even mentioned Chewbacca in his head, and it just kept haunting him. And he's like, Yeah, forget it.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

All right, let's do it. Let's do it. We gotta go. We've gotta do live. Let's go live. We're gonna do live. Chewaka. Chewbacca, like you said, we never mentioned Chewbacca, but Chewbacca, I think, is what you know probably Chewbacca was his conscience.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

Yeah, Chewbacca was his conscience all day long.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

It was the the whole concept, the way they did the movie, you know. Yeah, it was a good movie. Laugh it up, fuzz.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

Yeah, yeah, man.

Why A New Hope Holds Up

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Yes, but it was, but it said using the force, I think for Luke, that pretty much being his first time of doing it on his own, that that's what just basically sets up for the rest of the movies. You know what I'm saying? To me, anyways, you know, thinking about it now.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

But so you know why this movie still works, right? Why episode four holds up. Um, it's the beginning. But I mean, why it still is a good movie, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, even because you got it's a simple story, right? Right. There's not a whole lot, it's not overcomplicated, right? You know who the bad guys are, right? Like I said, we mentioned you know who the bad guys are, right? Yep. You got the strong characters. Yeah. Every character is a strong characteristic automatic characters again. Who's the bad guy? Yeah, yeah. You got the bad guys, and you got let different levels of bad guys. Like I said, you got Tarkin, you got Vader, like you got Jedi. And you know, the effects were so cool that we didn't even really get too much into the special effects. That was like But back then that was way ahead of its time.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:06

Back then, the way they had to do it now, it's so much easier to do. And they used the practical effects too. They mixed in practical effects and some of the special effects because you know, special effects were very new at that time, the way they were running them. But they also did a lot of practical effects, like you know what I mean? Like the, you know, the puppets and oh yeah, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, dude man, listen. But then the in the um when they were stuck in the uh no, that was the other movie. Nope, one movie, second one. No, don't jump into the Zoom. Yeah, yeah, no, I can't jump into this one.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Hansen absolutely the puppets.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

Yeah, or the puppets and didn't. And you really see it when he gets episode three, you know, with the with the the when you're on Jabba Hut's Palace. Right, yeah, that was freaking great. Yeah. That was like so. Such a Jim Henson character. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

The other thing that made the movie work is that it had great pacing. You know what I mean? Like the movie load so well.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Yeah, because it it and it kept switching to a different what's going on over here at this moment.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Yes. So you know.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

So it wasn't just the story, but it was the way they did the movie. Yes. And and and of course the storytelling is mythic. You know, like again, you got the space samurai. Yeah. You got space Nazis. Yep, and what's crazy is that I've heard fascists samurai versus fascists, but that's dark samurai and light samurai.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

But you know, but I've heard people talk about it being a Bible story. You know what I'm saying? Like having the same thing as the Bible.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

I've heard people that have talked about it being you could see it that way.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yeah, but I'll say, but everybody could pick it how they want to to make it, you know, to make them, you know, like oh oh, you know, the just for comparisons, you know, just so many things. Like even I even hear people that have compared it to the Godfather, you know what I'm saying? Like just that whole idea, that whole just how you know the family was. Yes, base mafia. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. It gave one offer, it can't be fused. That was Job with a hut. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:57

I mean, he was a criminal.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

He was a crime lord. Right, yeah, he was. He sure as hell he was.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Exactly, right. That's what they did.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

They were. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

That's what they were. They were just that's just what they did. You need something, you want something. Yeah, right. Pretty much. Pretty much. Yes, yeah, man. Yeah. That that I love that movie.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

And I like the way they ended it because it left it off because you knew it was gonna be another.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Right, exactly. Yeah. And you looked forward to seeing the second group. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

Wow, where's this story gonna go? Yeah, man. Because Vader didn't die. You know, Tarkin and the Death Star blew up Vader.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Yeah. Shot out. Yeah, so you knew it was gonna be like but and then the thing, you weren't sure how c what kind of um if it was gonna be like a revenge. You know what I mean? You didn't know if like that was the end of the empire because we still didn't know who the emperor was or where the emperor was. Yeah, and that's it for the next one.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

Great movie for the titles.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, so yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

That's gonna be uh they digitized that movie too later on, didn't they? They did what I'm sorry? I didn't hear you. I'm sorry. They they enhanced the movie? Yeah, so when they brought it back out, all three of them, they put in they did Javan Hutt was in the first one when he meets up with Han Solo by the ship, remember? Did that was that what the the thing was? I remember he was in it. They did him in later when they build the ship. So they added all that stuff in there.

Special Editions And Next Rewatch

SPEAKER_02 42:16

Yeah, Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Empire Strikes Back, and Um Return of the Jedi, they just basically took what was on the cutting room floor and put it back into the movie is is what they ended up doing, and then just making it look better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

So as I said, you know, The Empire Strikes Back, which is going to be our episode two weeks from now. Yep. Yes. That'll be the next book. We'll see discussing that. We'll be we'll be learning a little bit about Vader's evolution and how the trilogy changed cinema.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Special effects, storylines, you know, just how they built the characters up to yeah, that's gonna that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Yeah. It's good. This is great. This is great when you liked all when you're growing up and you're watching all that. Hell yeah, yeah. You already grew up with sci-fi to begin with, and all the things you were watching, and then this thing comes out and you're like, What? I love this shit. But then everything took off, don't forget about it. On the end of this, that's when all the other things started, Star Trek started coming back out. Right. Did a motion picture, and then they came out with the Wrath of Khan. Right. So, like everything they were started biting off each other. So, oh, this doing the space thing, we gotta do the space thing. And then it just started going, you know what I mean? So just created more stuff, which was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

Yeah, I think that's that's what made it beaking a yeah. Yeah, that that's just it just everything just just like exp expands off of it. Special effects and movies, you know, just movies as a whole. Just yeah, but another level. Until next time. Yes. With that, thank you all for watching. Love, peace, and hair grease. Live long and prosper. And use the fall.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

Use the fall.