He Had to Relearn Everything: Joey’s Rare Autoimmune Illness and Recovery

At just 20 years old, Joey went from working, attending school, and living an active life to losing nearly all of his motor function in only two weeks.

He could no longer walk, talk, eat, write his name, or communicate beyond blinking—but he remained completely aware of everything happening around him.

In this powerful episode of CC & NJ Guy, Joey shares his experience living with an extraordinarily rare autoimmune neurological condition, the struggle to receive answers, and the experimental treatments that helped him begin rebuilding his life.

Joey opens up about:

• Losing his fine and gross motor skills
 • Being able to communicate only by blinking
 • Receiving treatment at New York-Presbyterian
 • Plasma exchange and experimental therapies
 • Relearning how to walk, talk, eat, and write
 • Living with tremors and balance challenges
 • Returning to hunting, fishing, mechanical work, and race cars
 • The support he received from his family
 • Why rare medical conditions often receive limited research
 • The importance of communication between doctors and patients

Despite everything he has experienced, Joey refuses to allow his condition to define him.

His message for anyone facing an illness, disability, or life-changing setback is simple:

“You will have your ‘why me?’ days. Give yourself a couple of days—but then move on. Do not stop moving.”

This conversation is about more than a rare illness. It is about resilience, disability awareness, family support, medical advocacy, finding purpose, and continuing to live your life even when everything changes.

Learn more about Joey’s recovery and therapy journey at Joe Juniors Journey.

This episode reflects Joey’s personal experience and is not intended to provide medical advice. Always speak with a qualified healthcare professional regarding medical symptoms, diagnosis, testing, or treatment.

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Transcript

Welcome And Why Joey Came

Lou 0:00

Live from Crawford Studios. What what? What's going on, my people? What's happening? You guys good, everybody? Peace? Yeah. Excellent. Good. That's good. Yeah. So today we have Sir Joey. Yeah. Sir Joey, appreciate you coming down. Joey reached out and said he wanted to come down and hang out with us and speak about the illness, sickness.

SPEAKER_03 0:25

Yeah, yeah. But I just like the right out there and help people know what can happen. Yeah. Couldn't all diagnose this. Long story short, I lost all my fine and gross motor schools. So I couldn't walk, couldn't talk, couldn't eat, couldn't write my name, couldn't do anything. At one point, all I could do was blank. And through therapy and support and had to relearn everything, I am where I am now. Right. Seventeen years later. Wow.

Lou 1:01

Yeah. So how are you feeling now?

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Right now? I'm I'm feeling great.

Lou 1:05

Okay. I am. Okay. Feeling awesome. Good stuff, good stuff. So now, 17 years old. Tell us it was 20. I'm sorry. 17 years. 20 years old. I forgot how I freaking old you are, bro. So now tell us how, like, the first day

The First Sign Something Was Wrong

Lou 1:20

that, you know, we started just straight up from the beginning. Like you said there was no symptoms. You've told me that before.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

The first thing that happened was I was going to school full time. I was working full time. And my mother had my paycheck. So I just went inside my name to have her double house of my paycheck. And I actually broke down like crying. And my parents didn't realize what was going on. Right. I was like, I can't move my hand. Mm-hmm. You were still able to talk, though.

Lou 1:51

You were able to speak still.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

Okay. I could do everything. Right. And my dad finally was like, well, we have the same name. Yeah. So he was like, I'll just do a quick go to work. Come home. Right. Get a good night's sleep. You should be fine. So went to work. Slapped it. Woke up the next day. Everything was fine. I can hand work. I could talk fine, walk fine. And then I would say a couple of days afterwards, I was at work, and all of a sudden I couldn't feel my whole right side of my body. And they I don't know why they send me home. So I'd drive home myself. With one side of your body only working. Mm-hmm. And a standard card no less.

Lou 2:32

But wait, so you couldn't standard? Yeah, and a manual transmission. So now hold on. You couldn't, you could by this time though, could you feel your right side? Or you were still kind of like numb?

SPEAKER_03 2:41

No, it was numb. So you were functioning. But you still use it though. Yeah.

Lou 2:45

So you could move and do whatever.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

I don't know if it was like muscle memory or what, but yeah.

Lou 2:51

Now did you feel like a little twitch? Did you have any kind of spasms or anything? Like gone. So so far we have where there's something that you have with no name, zero symptoms before the day of. Yeah. And numbness. Only six people have it. Only six people in the world have it. And here we are 17 years later. And

Two Weeks From Fine To Frozen

Lou 3:10

still.

Tom 3:10

So how fast was it the point of time from like losing feeling in your hand to like you said only being able to blink? Because that was that fast or was it like a long stretched out?

SPEAKER_03 3:21

After went came home from work, went to a neurologist local, and they did an hour eye and they saw a spot in my brain, and they were like, well, whatever happened happened, take them home. And in two weeks, I went from totally fine, okay, to laying in bed and gonna do anything. Wow.

Lou 3:44

Now, do you did you still have I don't want to say uh I guess more like your wherewithal? Like you still knew everything that was going on. Yeah. You felt your body was kind of like just deteriorating, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

So it's more physical than more mind, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, yeah, I knew everything that was going on. Right. But I couldn't answer, I couldn't do anything. I the I thought was a layer there.

Lou 4:07

Yeah. So it was almost like just being like just paralyzed and seeing everything going on around you. Yeah. That's the craziest shit, bro.

Keny 4:14

Did you panic at all when that was happening?

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Or did you I mean, like, I know that's a crazy question to ask because you probably I did at first because honestly I thought I was dying.

unknown 4:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Um I guess when you realize you weren't dying, that kind of once I I never really lost that panic. Yeah. But once they finally weeks later found the the cause of it and they they were trying treatment, I was like, alright, I think I'm gonna be okay. And it took a little bit. Right. It took uh the male clinic in Minnesota to find the antibody that caused everything. Once they found that, they labeled uh like an experimental treatment because they didn't know what to do.

Tom 4:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

And over time it eventually worked.

Lou 5:02

Right, right, right. Yeah, that's insane, dude. I'm still bugging out that after all this time that they still don't have an actual name.

Tom 5:09

Did you have to relearn everything, or is it some stuff come back? Really? Everything from scratch.

Keny 5:15

Like learn how to talk, learn how to walk, learn everything. And it didn't affect any um I'm sorry, I didn't store your internal organs, like you know, obviously your heart, your liver, your kidneys. No, they checked everything. All that was good.

SPEAKER_03 5:27

All the smoke. So yeah. It affected my muscles, obviously, my nerves and my brain. All the things that you consciously have to think of.

Tom 5:37

Not like organs where are unconscious, their muscle movement.

Lou 5:40

Right, right. Now the spot though that you said that they found in your brain. The cerebellum. Now, what did they find in there? Did the male clinic even uh address that spot?

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Well, the male clinic only they only got blood. That's all I was doing. Oh, so you didn't go over there. Got it, got it, got it. But the spot that they found, I don't even think it's come back yet. It was an infected part that was sort of like attacked by the antibody that came. Got it.

Lou 6:10

So now after them treating that, did it did the spot go down or did it disappear? So it stayed there.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Still there.

Lou 6:16

So nobody even thought about maybe either taking it out or just opening your head to go and see what it is. Was that even a conversation? No.

Keny 6:24

No. Well what they were going there for though.

Lou 6:26

I mean, we Well, because to see what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like to see, like, I mean, because for me, and you know, and the super, super little that I know about these things, you know, it's always that you know, you hear or you read about something, you know, could it have been, could it still be like a uh a parasite? If is it, you know, just you know, uh a blood clot. Like what could it be that would contribute to this? Like I said, yeah, I know nothing about brain surgery.

SPEAKER_03 6:51

I'm just imagination, my imagination and stuff that you you know you hear. Right. When it first happened when I was here, I actually went to Horton was there and they thought might have had Holmheart that caused a blood clot. So they had a local other knowledge come and do it. And they actually had um, I don't know if you guys know Dr. Singh. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

There is. No, there is. There it is.

Keny 7:20

There is a little and it's a common name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yes, they thought that wasn't meant the way it came out. Sorry, Joe. That's why. Oh, that's okay, go ahead, go ahead. So Dr. Singh?

SPEAKER_03 7:32

They thought it had hold my heart. Right. So he came and he checked everything and he told my my parents, it's none does heart. It's all neurological, get him out of here. Go to the city, go all over water somewhere. Right. Really? Mm-hmm. No shit. Like he

The Search For A Cause

SPEAKER_03 7:50

was like, oh, local places won't be able to do it. Get him out of here. Take him to the city. Yeah. Where'd you wind up going down there? Uh near Presbyter. Presbyterian? Yeah. Yeah. Amazing people. Yeah. That's amazing hospital. Yeah. Yeah.

Lou 8:03

I'm so I I mean, I I I don't I mean, this the the hospitals was changed for in the city, like from, you know, when we were kids and shit. And, you know, because I remember they used to send everybody to either NYU or to Bellevue, because those are like the two that were, I want to say almost like uh the the researchers, you know what I'm saying? Not Bellevue so much on a lot of stuff, but you know, it's like if this is the trauma, then you go to Bellevue for stuff, like you know, they would pretty much helicopter people in there, you know what I'm saying? Westchester, even Westchester, you know, Westchester has anything in the city or near that, right? Right, those yeah, yeah, is where you want to city, yeah. Yeah, the city got, yeah, because that's just where, you know, there's it's New York City and just say so.

Tom 8:44

How long did it take for them to be like you're number six out of five people right now? Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

Well, they didn't can't remember how long it took. Yeah. But I know I have a notebook about this thick of every test that was every illness from this country and out of the country. And that wasn't on any given.

unknown 9:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Mm-hmm. Right.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

And finally, over time, they were like, Well, we have cases like this one that have happened and you're the us one right now. Still the last one.

Lou 9:16

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they still wouldn't tell, but I know you had think you had told me before HIPAA. You know, so you wouldn't know. They can't tell you who it is. And so there's no so you weren't even able to get into a support group. No. To even like try to discuss. There was did they even so well let me ask this. Well, you they couldn't even tell you where what country or state or anything these people were in. So I'm wondering if they even knew if you got if the doctors, you know what I'm saying, uh or the lab techs were able to even, you know, talk, if you will, or just not not say your names, but you know, just compare notes, you know what I mean, to see what the hell's going on. Patient one, patient two, you know. Well, because I mean, even I'm sorry to cut you off, Joe, because I mean said, if he had the spot in his, you know, they saw a spot in your brain, did they find a spot in everybody else's brain? Did they have it in the same spot? Was it, you know, another place in the brain? You know what I'm saying? Was there a spot at all?

SPEAKER_03 10:08

The only the only thing that they were able to tell me, they can tell AIDS or anything, but they can gerber to me, come back the best out of all because of my age and my physical well-being.

Keny 10:23

Right. Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

All they could tell me.

Keny 10:25

Right. So you had some kind of an advantage in a sense because you were young and you you're still that thank God for that. Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

Lou 10:32

Because he was the nat he was an athlete. You know what I'm saying? So that then that you know his body was working differently than you know, he was conditioned. Right, exactly. So his muscles were probably able to you know come back and support.

Keny 10:44

And I'm assuming the people that that did happen, the other five, are probably different age groups, right? I'm assuming I'm assuming. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Lou 10:50

That's why I that's why I would, you know, I'm surprised I I don't know. I I almost want to say that there, you know, there's a little bit of a surprise to me because there was no conversation with you andor the fam to say, yo, listen, this is what it is. These are this is the symptoms that have come up in other people, these are the things that had happened. You know what I mean? Now, you find out, like you said, we

IVIG And Plasmapheresis Explained

Lou 11:10

fast forward, we went through all that stuff now. What were the treatments?

SPEAKER_03 11:13

I went through uh IVI, they call it IVIG, where they they take nothing but good antibodies. Right. Because everyone's body minks good and bad. Right. But your good antibodies kill off bad. Right. And where mine happened was I was making so much bad at one point I wasn't making enough good to keep up. Got it. And this IVIG was nothing but good ones from people doing blood and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

And they tried that and I was making producing enough bad that still wouldn't keep up. So what they tried from there, they called plasma phrases. It's like dialysis.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

They put a catheter on my neck, they pump the blood out, they clean it. They filter it, huh? They take all the uh plasma and everything out, and you get nothing but straight blood back. And through probably about I don't know how many years, finally, like my my dad told Good Tell. Because the discharge bag was to be a cloudy. Really? From the plasma and everything. Yeah. And finally, it was the same color, but it was clear. Like you see right through it. Got it. And he knows me when something's different.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Right. And finally they tested and they were like, nope, you're okay. You're you're recovering, you're getting better. Oh. So you could tell that by the blood just by looking at it.

Lou 12:44

Yeah, well, I'm sure you said cloudy getting all the sh the shit out. You know what I mean? Now, when was the last time you did that? Last time I did plasma physicists was 2018. So it's 2018 that you did it, and you haven't had to go and do that since. No. No meds or anything since. Nope. Now, was that when you started then physical therapy to learn how to walk and talk again? Or was it still doing like the diatysis kind of stuff?

SPEAKER_03 13:09

I started physical therapy while I was still doing the plaster. The plasma first, yeah. I stopped. So I was still doing therapy. And then in 2018, I actually got blurred again and something came out of nowhere. And they call it GAD65. They find it a lot with people that donate, and it's uh a thing that's diabetic people that carry it. Okay. And somehow I got it, and that was a way for them to clean that out and then recovered from that too. Okay. Wow.

Lou 13:48

So them cleaning you out.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

They found something else. Yeah, they found that's some serious shit. Yeah.

Keny 13:53

But the crazy thing is is that they're they they localized it, right? They saw the picture of the wherever it was in your brain and they do these things, but they still can't have they don't have anything that could actually put a name on it.

Lou 14:04

Yeah, that's as far as what it is, which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm just kind of like stuck that you know with all of that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 14:12

The only name they they give it is autoimmune cerebellitis with the uncharacterized antibody. Okay. That's all they said.

Lou 14:21

Now, cerebralitis, is that a thing though? You know what I mean? So it's not like they put a whole bunch of things together to make to make something new, like uh, you know what I mean? So then, you know, I I guess my next question is was it a question from you guys, from you and the family, that, you know, all these things together, or what does what's the cure for each one?

SPEAKER_03 14:41

And if you put the cures together, if well, I'm I'm sure everyone's thought about it, but there is no cure. Right. No cure for any of it.

Lou 14:54

Okay. Huh. But still you've overcome. Yeah. So you've gotten through with all that stuff and you know, had to deal with.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

And you get tested regularly just to see that it hasn't come back or anything like that. Yeah, every now and then I do blood work, have my doctor from the city look at it and give them results, and so far not what have been good. Right. I've been scared. Yeah.

Lou 15:16

When was your last blood test?

SPEAKER_03 15:18

You said every so often, so my doctor's gonna hate me. It's been a while. I haven't gone, but now you gotta go. I was doing it like every like six months. Okay, yeah. I would get it checked out by yearly? Sure. Yeah.

Lou 15:31

And you should go back, bro, and do it again. Like in all honesty. We haven't done it in a in a while. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna send this to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. He hasn't done it.

Keny 15:41

Your podcast to your doctor.

Lou 15:42

Yeah, let him know. The doctor's on here too. Yeah,

Learning To Live In A New Body

Lou 15:45

no lie, bro. That is craziness, man. So now, how has it affected you, your life? I say I know the things you do, but people don't.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

So it's affecting me drastically. Um I mean, I was dead sports, hunting and fishing. Well, obviously now I don't do sports. I've found ways to go hunting and fishing still, because that's my love. Yeah, yeah. But uh I do have been working on race teams, thermatoids, which all suspension, motors, all that. The biggest thing is just finding different ways. It was a big change because I know what it can do up here. Uh here, I'm not sure if they can. Right. So I gotta figure out different ways to do things. Right. It takes longer, but it does get there.

Lou 16:35

Right, right, right. Now, did you fe do you feel in you know the 17 years, do you feel your mental capacity has diminished? Or do you think you're still, you know, you're still, I guess as you were, what you would be for your age?

Tom 16:49

Yeah, if it has affected at all.

SPEAKER_03 16:50

Yeah.

Tom 16:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

I'm mentally I'm still there. Okay. I don't feel like it too much. The only thing was at one point my memory wasn't right. But come to find out, I was we got a test and everything. Come to find out, I was just being a normal 20-something year old and didn't listen.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

So I just have to learn how to focus on people. Right. Yeah. And I'll change. Right, right, right, right.

Keny 17:17

You were in your own little world because you were focusing on all the other stuff you were doing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And now you're like, now I gotta pay attention.

Lou 17:23

But you now make the joke. Is it a is it really that you weren't, you know, like is it a man thing that you just weren't paying attention because you didn't give a shit. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't care what you gotta say right now. You know, it doesn't fucking matter. Could have been. Yeah, could have been. We were we were all at that age. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm still at that age, bro. I was saying, like, yo, I don't really care what you say. Shut the fuck up. Like, yeah, whatever, bro.

Tom 17:44

Now I remember we we did talk about on the last episode, but you were talking about you you are um you do like mechanical work for uh for a race team. A race team, right? So maybe we talk about that a little bit too, yeah. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it is. So it's like it's a kind of like a hobby turned into like a like work kind of thing or career kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

It started out as I was a fan. My loved growing up. We were at his race shop, okay, and my dad always knew how to work on trucks like 18 wheelers and that. So we were helping him with that, and then he said, I have work over here I have to do. And before he finished, I was over there doing it, and it turned into us staying for the year just to help him, and one year turned into three. Yeah. And we actually had so much stuff from him. And I went from there to a different team to drink time, bring what I learned, and now it's more of a hobby, but I just can't stop doing it. It's it's too much fun. Yeah. I love the fact that you got all that drive still that you, you know, yeah, yeah.

Keny 18:51

Like I mentioned it last time, there's not like this poor me thing. Right. You know what I mean? Like you're just no, I'm still gonna push myself to do it because these are the things I like to do, instead of giving in to the and then being mil you know what I mean? Like just being in that other zone where you know you're stuck in a rut.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Right.

Keny 19:08

You didn't allow it. So and and from what you said last time, you said your family is not gonna let you do that either, because they seem very uh supportive in that way, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a couple times where it was pouring me and why and all this, and after a couple days, my dad was the biggest supporter of all that, he smacked him in the head and say, Yeah, but stop and just keep going. Yeah, right.

Lou 19:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I mean, in all honesty, there's nothing you still can't do other I mean i you know, limitations to some of the stuff, but you can basically function. I mean, you know, you're doing all the stuff that you need to do, you know, married, I mean, and getting yelled at by your wife like the rest of us. So it's not like, you know, it's uh don't hit me, Liana. It's so joke. And you guys work together too, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's my number one advertising. So I mean, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I said we, you know, machine mechanic and operator, and he can do, and I've been showing him all the stuff on the machine. So, you know, when I'm not there, you know, it's Joey.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

You know, you've seen too, it's when they focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a little tremor.

Lou 20:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

But then as I'm doing it over time, I'll stop.

Lou 20:17

Yeah, it's funny as hell. I know, and it's not I know people. You were saying that that last second. Yeah, because I know Joey, so you know, we've been working together for years now. So, you know, it's just funny because he'll have that little bit of the twitch, and then it's almost like, and then it's all like, and get that shit done and then back out and fucking twitch all over again. And I'm like laughing while I'm watching him do it. It's really hilarious, man. Like, literally, that's what it is. And every time that, you know, every time that I know he's gonna do something that I know, and I mean I've told you this before, I appreciate him every day because I know he can get it done. You know what I'm saying? I'm not worried about right, fuck Joey's gonna do it, Jesus. Yeah, it's gonna come out. But you know what I mean? Like, he knows it. He is it's the it's the wildest shit. So, you know, I tell him all the time I appreciate him and whatnot.

Keny 20:57

Right, because it doesn't stop him being mechanically inclined because he's the he that's right.

Lou 21:01

And he can actually, you know, he could do it, he can make it happen. It'll take him a minute, you know, a little bit longer, you know. And it's funny because you could hear him cursing at himself everybody's like fuck.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

I mean he'll go and see them, yeah.

Lou 21:13

You know, but yeah, I mean, like you said, and I mean, so those people, you know, because Joey's sitting here now, so Joey walks with two canes, you know, to for the stability and whatnot. And, you know, I got him outside taking the garbage out, you know, pilot jack, you know, moving things. The only thing I can't have him do is drive the forklift, but you know, other than that, he can do, you know what I'm saying, do that other stuff. So, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah, one of the one of the biggest things that I didn't get back, well, I have back, but not fully is balanced. That's the one thing I struggle with the most. Right. But everything else, it's it's come back. Besides driving. I can drive, but right.

Keny 21:50

You mentioned to drive it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Yeah.

Keny 21:53

And you said that was the only time that you weren't able to get it to focus in. And I and we mentioned the fact that probably because you like it. So much.

Lou 22:01

Yeah.

Keny 22:01

So excited. It's right.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

You're you're uh just super uh ecstatic about it, you know. The judgment and the whole hand-eyed coordination isn't there enough to the more I do it, the better I'll get. Right. But it scares everybody the first time it happens, yeah. So they're they'll say no.

Lou 22:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Keny 22:22

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

That's why they gotta get like we still less it, they gotta get them in.

Keny 22:25

A field with a field with a one of those crazy carts, you know, and just strap them in and like, all right, go tell, man. Oh, yeah.

Tom 22:31

Send them to the go-kart track, let them get in there. Bobby cars? Yeah. Abandoned shopping centers and retails. Yeah, big parking lots everywhere.

Lou 22:40

Make it happen. Damn, bro. You heard my feelings of that one. Yeah. So many abandoned. So many, like so many empty places. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, that would that would be it.

Tremors Spasms And How He Manages

Lou 22:49

Now, all I I one thing I I when I talk about you, you know, I always try to compare so people understand. So people that haven't seen you and whatnot, try to compare what your disease looks like. So I always, tell me if I'm wrong, it's almost like uh a Parkinson's and multiple sclerosis. Yeah. I guess would be the because you every once in a while get that, like you shake, but then you also get those muscle spasms. Yeah. So it's like kind of like that look. Not always.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

And that and when they go into full-blown shape, which you haven't seen yet. A full-blown what? Oh yeah, almost like it was like a seizure actually. Oh really? Sometimes it looks like a seizure. Yeah, yeah.

Lou 23:27

It's not, yeah, because he's not like it's just the butt, like the muscles just kind of freaking out.

Keny 23:32

I know this is crazy as this, but how does that feel when that happens?

Lou 23:35

Like is it painful or is it just uncomfortable?

SPEAKER_03 23:38

It's more uncomfortable than anything. No pain. Right. And I've pretty much found I've tried every way. And pretty much the only way I could do it was I would have to like crawl up with a ball almost. Okay. And do some weird like arm exercises and that and like almost in a fetal position in a sense? Like if I'm sitting in a chair, I get a hunch down. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. Bend over and just try and let it pass. Right. I gotcha.

Lou 24:09

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Now do you feel it coming on?

SPEAKER_03 24:12

No. So it would just be like it's so now I do. I didn't then Okay.

Lou 24:16

So now you know that it's coming. Now like you could yell, but I can't.

Keny 24:20

And then you could just I wonder if that is a good thing, probably though, right? Hell yeah. Right. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

So when you f when you feel it, like okay, something's happening. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, when I feel it, if somebody's there, I'll let them know, or I'll just stop whatever I'm doing and try and get it the past before it happens, and then I'll keep moving.

Lou 24:39

Now, how many times has it happened, let's say, in the past uh two or three years? Now not often. Well, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm asking more because of, you know, you are pretty active. Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

So like from the beginning till now, like is it less when it first happened? It was pretty much almost all day every day. It was it was bad. So they I dropped just from the tremors, I lost 45 pounds because my muscles would fire, right? And it would burn a lot of calories. Holy house burning.

Lou 25:11

I didn't even think about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Yeah.

Lou 25:14

Makes sense though, right? But were you lean or like, you know, like zero body fat kind of thing? Like, did you look diesel? I know that sounds kind of crazy, but you know what I mean? He is, but he's fucking, bro. He's strong as fuck. Yeah. Like be careful when you shake his hand, kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like for real, for real. And but too. I had no control. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. So, like, you know, show we look on my hand. Like, yeah, yeah, like old shit. Like, we have this thing at work, and uh, it's really a scale, but I've used it and we've used it in maintenance that you turn around and you grip it. PSI Yeah, how many just how tight you're squeezing? And I'm at on my right hand, I'm at what was it, 135 pounds? Your left is different. Yeah, my left is a left lady. Yeah, yeah. Your arthritis is kicking my ass, so I don't get that same grip in my left, you know what I mean? But that you know, do it. And I think you were at like 140. 145, so I'm like that. That he did that shit, bro. Nice, nice. I'm like, yo, Joey, hold this.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

He's like, he's crushing. Take it in.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

That was like the one day too with the drill. Yeah, bro. Uh drill, I hadn't uh let's talk about it. Yeah, you couldn't get it open, he couldn't get it.

Lou 26:24

I'm like trying to open that bitch up and like putting it in the vice, trying to turn the bitch. He's like, fuck.

Tom 26:29

Imagine if you like one day woke up with super strength, you'd probably break everything. Like Superman strength because everything would just break. Like Spider-Man when he first figured it out.

Lou 26:38

He's right there, he's just about there, bro. He's just about there. I'm telling you, man. Yeah, sometimes he's grabbing shit. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Keny 26:46

You gotta get the wrench and hold on to it. Yeah, and snap it loose.

Lou 26:50

Had to give him a fucking little taser shot, man. Yeah, fuck out of here, man. Kidding me? Yeah, he's strong as all get out. It's funny as fuck, man. That is too funny. But yeah, man. So I mean, like, I guess as a whole, you know, there's no pain, you know, it's just uncomfortable. And, you know, thank God, and kudos to you for not letting it, you know, beat you in the head. I'm like, I can't function anymore, can't do whatever. So, you know, it's one of those things. Now, from when you stopped doing the plasma plasma phrases, that how have you felt? Like, do you feel? I guess I don't I wanna say that you feel it coming back, but yeah, like do you think that you would need one now after, you know, five years? Like, do you think you should do it again? You know, um, you is there anything even, if not just for that, anything else that you've thought like, yo, maybe, you know, I want to try this now, you know, and try to get better or whatever. Like, is has there any ha has there even been any kind of conversation, you know, in the medical world, you know, because of the six of you guys who have it?

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Like, I feel no change since the last had it. So but feel no change and don't don't really want to get more. Right, right, right. Who likes to have needles on the arm?

Triggers New Cases And Stem Cells

SPEAKER_03 28:03

Yeah, right. Right. The only thing like the every now and then my doctor will text me, hey, we have another case that's similar to yours, but not yours. Really? Yeah. Like there's people that have been close, but I'm still the last one. Okay.

Lou 28:21

Now, so with that, are they able to help those people? And then thinking that maybe they can use that for you.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

That they could use it for you? They use uh they actually use what they used on me.

Lou 28:32

On those people shot the front door.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Yeah, okay. They'll do plasma free systems, everything like that. Cause they know it it worked for him, but so with the people because it's similar. Right. And it's been working.

Lou 28:46

Now, did they catch with those people sooner than with you kind of thing? Did the people have like a similar, I guess we'll say, uh, happening, like when they fur when it first came down on them, did they have similar uh I'm gonna say uh symptoms at that moment?

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Like they they didn't yeah, shit, man.

Lou 29:03

I'm just saying, like, you know, because I I'm still stuck in a fucking spot in your brain, bro. Like, you know what I mean?

Keny 29:08

Like well, they picked it up, right?

Lou 29:10

Yeah, like is that really that lit up in the in the because it wasn't an MRI? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So then if if that was something is still something that it's contributing to, you know what I mean? Is there something like whether they dig that shit out? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 29:24

Your only hope is uh eventually it will regrow like fully intact, like it was, right? And I'll regain everything and be normal again. I wonder about the stem cells.

Keny 29:37

I was just doomed. All three of us thought about it. We heard it grow, seeds you know, we grow and I'm like, yeah, cells.

Lou 29:46

Yes, most of them. They might be able to come up with a 'cause Tom, you know, the genius that said it first. Was that a conversation? It has that been a conversation in any way, shape, or form. STEM SIN.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

I think one time we talked about it, but when we did wasn't as advanced as now.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

So they weren't real sure about it. But now it's more advanced. Maybe I'll I'll bring it up again. Yeah.

Lou 30:13

Well, then it sounds to me they used it for almost anything. For everything, hell yeah. But it sounds to me, right? This is where the dad sound comes in. You haven't gone to the doctor in a long time, Joseph. What the fuck are you waiting for? Right. You know what I mean? Like you've I mean and I and I I mean, I guess I understand. You could tell me where I'm you know wrong, but it's been now so long that you've been good that now you've just gotten kind of comfortable and just working with. So then you haven't like really had that conversation to to change up. Get a whole work off and everything like that, and just get everything checked out. Would that be a true statement?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Yeah, I would. I would I would probably say I haven't gone because of everything I do. Right. And like everything home to him, like I don't want to deal with it. You're busy, you're doing shit. Yeah, right. You're living life right now.

Lou 31:01

Bro, he doesn't watch fucking TV really. Like, I can't. I'm like, oh, you seen that movie? He's like, no, that's a good problem.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Yeah.

Lou 31:06

Well, that's a good problem. But I mean, I'm like, shit, bro, because you know, we laugh and joke about stuff, you know, and I'm like, yo, did you see this? This is just like us when we sit and we talk about something, like, yo, you're sorry, you're like, no, no, no, no.

Tom 31:18

I have the opposite problem. Like, I don't know what to watch. Yeah. Right. He's like, I think I don't have time to watch it. Yeah, you gotta love it. He gotta tell us the channels.

Lou 31:25

Yeah, he's gonna be, yeah, one day he's just gonna, yeah, I just fucking laugh my ass off with that, bro. Because, you know, so that then I guess that's why, too, for me, why I said what I said before, you know, I know nothing about any kind of medical anything other than what I have, and only to an extent, you know, that everything that I've read, seen on TV, you know, real life medical stuff, that I would say, why is it they haven't done this? Why isn't they haven't done that? Why hasn't you know this been looked at? Why hasn't, you know what I mean? Like that's you know, that's just me. You know, right.

Keny 31:57

If there's any more treatments that they can do.

Lou 31:58

Yeah, it's gotta be something. And I mean, I and I and it it kind of sounds crazy at the you know, the I guess the at the same time, because I'm sure half of the shit is is uncomfortable and potentially painful, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, to turn around and drill a hole in the head and check what the spot is, you know what I mean? That's you. They can't really put you to sleep because they need you to stay awake to make sure that they're not tapping anything that's gonna, you know what I mean? Because I get that's some brain surgeries, you know, from what I've read. You know what I mean? That I'm saying, fuck, man. I guess, but I said, for me personally, I'd be like, yo, get this shit, see what the fuck this is, you know, what does it look like in real life? Is it something that you need to take out? Is it something that's gonna spread?

Keny 32:38

Like Yeah, just it's probably more like uh where you could see where it did affected that air likely, but it's no longer there. In other words, so this is what the damage or what happened.

Lou 32:47

Right while I wanna I want you guys to look at this shit, you know, come and take a peek, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

I think because everything was so experimental.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

Right. And uh there's no more damage. I don't think they wanna pause anymore. If they do, I would still think they kind of want to leave it.

Lou 33:06

I'm surprised that they didn't want to go look though. You know what I'm saying? Just just to look at it, just to say that's what it looks like, you know. Take a picture of that shit, put it in the book. You know what I mean? And and like I said, this way you know at least what it looks like. You know, if that they see it in somebody else. And I I think I'm still stuck on the fact that there's not more conversation with you as the patient, you know, from the doctor. You're not asking for names and addresses, you know what I'm saying? But just to know what their symptoms look like, you know, that there's for you and your, I guess we'll say in your mental well-being, that you know that yo, this is what happened, you know. Okay, I'm not the only one. So what can I do different? Like, what are the how are those people living? You know what I mean?

Keny 33:49

Are they more extreme or are they less extreme?

Lou 33:50

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Even if it's something that he fucking ate. You know what I'm saying? Like if you guys eating the same grapes, you know what I mean? Whatever, anything, you know, it it like what could it have been? Could it have been that you had an allergic reaction to something? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 34:03

That the only thing they could think of when it happened is it was finals of a good school. They think the stress from that and maybe I got like a lot of sickness somehow, and my immune system broke down just enough. Right. And it could kickser the whole thing. That's the only thing they could think of.

Lou 34:24

That's crazy. So that then is that something is it something that everybody, anybody could potentially get?

SPEAKER_03 34:30

Yeah. It can happen anyway.

Lou 34:32

That's crazy.

Keny 34:33

Unfortunately, it hasn't though, right? Well, but I mean it's rare. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, and it's only six people, so it can happen though.

Tom 34:42

The stars have to line up, and yeah, yeah. That's why I'm saying that. Right.

Lou 34:46

No, yeah, right. And that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, it just has to be. I'm whipping. Because like, and what the fuck was it that perfect storm is exactly? So what was the perfect storm?

Keny 34:55

You know, like it's when you let me backtrack like something you look at and you forgot and you left somewhere, right? Yeah, let me retrace my steps. Exactly. Just to see what it was. Kind of doing that during the day. What did I eat? Where did I go? Yeah. What bathroom did I use? Yeah, exactly.

Lou 35:09

You know, because again, like you said, the perfect storm only six, well, you know, six times the perfect storm. He's number six. You know, everything else was a minor storm from other people that you know he'll get a phone call about. Like, yeah, that's just freaking wild as fuck to me. You know what I mean? That there wasn't that I guess that there's just not that kind of um communication, you know what I mean? To to say to you, yo, bong, this is what it could be, or you know, we want to be now to me, it's already too late because you remember what you had three weeks before, you know, you finally, you know, just kicked in, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it kind of that that part kind of sucks, but you know, yeah, it that's just crazy, man. I was gonna ask you another question and I forgot.

Tom 35:47

But yeah, I just realized because I know we you mentioned like the HIPAA, you can't really talk to but what happens if you like sign a waiver and said you can put my name out there to other patients? Will they allow that? Yeah, and then it's just like if they do come across another patient, they go, Oh, we have our son reaches out if you're interested in talking to them.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

The other patients didn't. Okay. My parents, because at that point I couldn't do anything. They they send the lab people now. Yeah, I would have did the same thing.

Keny 36:14

I think my parents would have done the same thing too.

SPEAKER_03 36:16

Mm-hmm.

Keny 36:16

For sure.

Lou 36:17

Yeah, well, I mean, it is not like a money grab. I mean, I'm not saying like that. But I'm just like educating about educating other people, you know what I mean? To let people know, yo, this and this, this could be be careful of that, look at this, because you know, fuck, you never know.

Keny 36:30

Right, because you want to be able to share, right? Instead of trying to be selfish, go, I don't want to put my name out, or yeah, whatever. Right. Yeah. Patient one, patient two.

Lou 36:37

But this gentleman has and this is what this is, you know, and then you but then in two, I mean, it most of the stuff is in a medical book of some sort. You know what I mean? It was some kind of study for a hot second, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the you know, there's a there's a doctor that knows that this is something that could happen, you know what I mean? Or a few doctors, because they read it in, you know, one of their books, you know, whatever said, yo, this, this, and the third, you know, a pre-med, you know, class or whatever. So it's like, I don't know. I I guess I just I I understand as I'm saying it, but it's just yeah, but I'm just like, you know, it just bugs me out that I get, you know, that's weird. Yeah, that you know, there's not more.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Yeah.

Lou 37:15

Mm-hmm. Like, what was the other one? There was something that um the other Joey from work that he uh he he represents, the uh little Joey. Oh, now my department? Yeah, that he turned around and and they do, and I can't remember what it was, but he does like the walk and the like you know part of the fundraising and shit for for this.

Keny 37:32

For AL?

Lou 37:33

Yes. And I hadn't heard of it until he said so.

Keny 37:35

They always, yeah.

Lou 37:36

Right, but I never paid any attention to it until he did it. I know when I was a kid and I would do like little fundraising bike rides or whatever, you know, that it was like uh MS. Right. You know what I'm saying? Cancer, you know, the basics.

Keny 37:47

Oh, it's like with the Rock and Rock Hill rules. Yeah, like that kind of stuff. So it's blood cancer.

Lou 37:51

Right. I was like, you know, like now, matter of fact, the dude who plays Sabretooth in Marvel has breast cancer.

Keny 37:58

Yeah, yep. Yes, okay.

Lou 38:00

So now it's men, how it's come out in the last couple of years that you actually hear about how many men. Christian Kiss had breast cancer. Right, exactly. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So then even still, so like now I just because you said I remember now that he's got it. You know what I'm saying? Like, but dudes to have breast cancer, like well, I guess you gotta get your hands.

Keny 38:16

Hey, listen, I'll show you some.

Lou 38:17

Yeah, I know. I bet my shit is too small to fucking. I don't know. I'm getting old and fast, so I shouldn't have fit in the machine.

Keny 38:22

I had a lump once in my on my left side. Yeah. Right. Right? In my nipple. Okay. Super fucking painful. Right. And I actually had to go for a test that a woman goes for the mammogram. Yeah. Right. They sh they they squeeze that. Yeah. And fortunately, I'm not a woman, so I don't have that. And it's still painful regardless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You kind of get an idea, like when someone's a woman tells you what's going on. Yeah, and then you kind of know way after that, you're like, okay, as far as the test and all that stuff, because it is not a very friendly, comfortable test at all.

Tom 38:57

They swivel that shit in the massive.

Lou 39:00

No, it flat, I don't know. No, it flattens it out. It just flattens that shit out. And it's tight. Yeah, and that's just that way. Yeah, I think that's a good thing. Yeah, they can see it and they extract the shit from it or whatever. And I'm like, you know, to me, that's that's fucking it's antiquated. I think they need to find a better way to do that shit so that the gears don't fucking feel. But it's still one of those things that you're gonna do. So when a woman tells you you know you don't know and somebody will get like, yeah, you're gonna go. Yeah, whatever. Come here, girl. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 39:25

I understand. You know what I mean?

Lou 39:27

So I mean, I don't know. I I just I just find it so wild that that's not more of a conversation. You know what I mean? Again, only because I know you. So I'm like, why doesn't anybody know about my man Joey? No. What the fuck, man? You know?

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Now I'm thinking about it. I know we did actually talk about more like getting involved in that. And I remember my doctor told me if you're not the president, an actor, or a billionaire. Right. That won't do anymore.

Lou 39:56

Yeah. And we see, well, it's not even America, bro. I'm gonna say the world as a whole. Because I mean it's why not?

Keny 40:04

Because in other places, medicine's a lot better than what we have.

Lou 40:06

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying we're not talking about the actual medicine and your and what we're gonna say is general illnesses. I'm talking about researching for stuff that's as rare, is what I'm going to do.

Keny 40:16

Right, but other places normally we're at a certain level. Yeah, okay, fair. I give you that much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was saying. That's why to get into the right.

Tom 40:24

That's why they didn't call it Lou Garrick's disease until someone famous. Now it's Lou Garrick's disease.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

That's like uh Parkinson's no one knew until Muggs. Right, yeah. And then they're like, oh, that's what that is. You know what I'm saying?

Lou 40:38

Oh my god, I just saw this guy down the block. He's got a hair, you know what I mean? So yeah, no, I get it. You know, it just it starts happening to a lot of people, right? Right, yeah, it's more that's what I'm saying. That's where I'm at. That's prominent.

Keny 40:49

And then they're like, wait a minute, we gotta figure out what the hell's going on here. Exactly. Because everybody's getting it, yeah, kind of thing.

Lou 40:54

Yep. Because I got and I I've said it before, and like, you know, our conspiracy shows and shit like that. Right. I believe that our generation, you know what I mean, because you're just that much younger than us, but that our generation, we were uh basically guinea pigs. You know what I mean? All the things that they, you know, be that we had in our food. You know what I'm saying? Think about it, bro. When we were kids, everybody could smoke in the car and it was like whatever. You know, we're sitting in fucking restaurants and everybody's smoking.

Keny 41:19

You know, in our defense, though, back in the day with us. Right, until if you compare when we grew up and the things we ate were a lot better and safer than the case. Oh no, no, no. I'm no, yeah, as far as what we are. Right. Right. So we we kind of yeah, but I I understand what you're switching. Yeah, yeah, right.

Lou 41:35

Being around smoke, people smoking cigarettes everywhere. Yeah, cracking window. Yeah, we're finding it. Yeah, it'll vent. Yeah, open up the little food. I did it too, man. I used to smoke. Yeah, I did it too. When I when I had my kid in the car, like, whatever, you guys will be fine. The windows are shut the fucking thing.

Tom 41:53

But the food was more natural than now we're finding that some of the foods we have all kinds of weird crap in them. We got microplastics and everything and whatnot.

Lou 42:02

I mean, because even too, think about when we were younger, you know, and and I say like this, kids weren't as built at a certain age as they are now. So, like by 15 years old, you know, we weren't fucking, you know, people I'm not now still, but you know, people weren't, you know, at 15, six feet tall, unless it was like, you know, it was a rarity, you know what I mean?

Keny 42:21

All these kids that are, you know, practice gets more advanced, like a family from Norway or something. He's only 13.

Lou 42:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

I'm looking up back.

Lou 42:31

Right, right. Huge. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, it's just they say girls develop earlier now than they do. Going through their cycle and whatnot sooner and whatnot, you know.

Keny 42:39

And and I heard some crazy conspiracy theory stuff, right? About people coming out saying that the CIA knew back in the day, like I'm saying 60, 70s, there was a cure for cancer. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they didn't put it out. They kept it to themselves. Right. Of course, that's conspiracy. I'm just saying, right, exactly. It's plausible. It's plausible. No.

Lou 43:00

I mean, like I said, but you know, again, it's that thing. And I think that that's why for me, not hearing more, I mean, because we know a bunch of people have, because we've heard, seen, you know, MS. We hear about, you know, other neurological diseases. You know what I'm saying? That then not to hear about this mix that could pop up, you know. Right. You know, one in ten million people will have it. Here we go. You know, and there's fucking six of you guys that you know have it, and then there's, you know, things of the like in some way, but this is how they were cured. That, you know, I don't know. I I get I I just find it wild, you know. I mean, but it was crazy.

Tom 43:34

Well, actually, if you do the statistics, if you do the math, if there's only six people in the world that have it and the population is eight billion, that's like one in one point two billion people. Right, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Exactly, right. Yeah, so it's like fuck like seriously. Yeah, but you said top of something. I mean, that might not be the math. No, no, no, no. Actually, it's one point three seven.

Lou 43:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yo, just yeah, somebody else can work. Just you know, put it in there and let us know. But you know, it's just one of those things, man. You know, and you know, again, I appreciate you coming on to just say, yo, Bong, you know, this is what it is, this is what I got, man. Yeah. So now, go ahead. No,

Advice Resources And Closing

Lou 44:11

no, no, no, no.

Keny 44:11

I was gonna say, what would you say to those who you know who are in your position or whatever it might be that they had that they're dealing with? Okay, as far as not to just like to keep kind of take your way of doing things and keep living your life and keep pushing harder to get to do what you want.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

There you will have your why me days, uh a couple of days, think a couple of days to yourself, but then move on. You will learn, it will get better. Do not stop moving because I even know if I stop, I'm gonna go backwards. Right. So you have to keep moving forward.

Lou 44:47

Yeah, man. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, right. I appreciate that. That's good stuff.

Keny 44:51

Right, I guess yeah. If you're gonna feel bad, get out, do it, feel bad, and then go, okay, I'm done. I got that on my system, kind of lesson learned.

Lou 44:57

Right. Now we gotta move on. Right.

Keny 44:59

Because I guess you're gonna have those days. I would imagine you would. I mean, even though you're still being positive and doing the things and your family is super supportive, you know, you're still human. Right, yeah. And regardless, you know, you just you have those days where you're like, why fucking make it? Right, right, right. And that's like anything in life, right? We deal with that all the time.

Lou 45:17

Yeah.

Keny 45:17

You know? Oh yeah.

Lou 45:18

Oh yeah. I don't want to get out of bed to go to work. Yeah. I'm too pretty for work. I hate work. I'm too, I'm too handsome for work.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

Yeah. Yeah. And if you guys want, I do have a website for like the cert of my therapy and my journey back. If you guys want to look at it, it's Joe Junior Journey.com.

Tom 45:39

Joe Junior'sjourney.com. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, go look, go see that. I mean so it's J-O-E-J-R Journey. Journey. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know if it's the full word junior, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Lou 45:54

But that's groovy, man. Like I said, I'm I mean, I said I come in you all the time. I appreciate you. You know, I tell you that shit like every other day. You know what I mean? That I'm glad you're that you work with me. You know what I'm saying? And I never think of it as you're working for me. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. And and, you know, I I I appreciate your your positivity, bro, as crazy as it may sound, right? Is the last time you're gonna hear me say something this kind of nice? I it it keeps me positive. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it helps keep me positive. Because if not, bro, you know, I'd just be, you know, like fucking whatever. Like, let's just let this shit blow up. Whatever. You know what I mean? But, you know, I you make me want to help make sure that everybody else that, you know, I deal with that I come across, you know, are a little bit better. I always, I I it's been a while.

Keny 46:38

Because your situation could be worse. Yeah, my situation could always be this or that is going on.

Lou 46:42

Yeah, like I'm a firm believer, bro. All jokes aside, I'm a super firm believer is that I'm here for a reason, you know, however the universe puts me here, that I'm here to, you know, try to make everybody feel have a better day. You know what I mean? In some way, shape, or form.

Keny 46:56

Well, you need to work on that shit, bro.

Lou 46:57

Well, that's I said I'm trying. I'm trying, I'm trying, you know, because you know, and even whether it's that I'm just that that uh that sounding board to vent, you know what I'm saying, or just to help you forget about your issue at that moment, you know what I mean? And whether you believe it or not, you're just you being around. That's you. You know what I'm saying? You just being able to see how you do and how you function, and you know, just know that you're laughing and joking and making the same stupid jokes that I make, you know what I mean? And that you're also that person. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 47:30

You gotta keep it like you can't, as you're doing self, you can't do all right. Yeah. Just yeah, no dooming. Be happy, yeah. Yeah, I know. Be like you normally are, right? And just just keep moving.

Lou 47:43

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

Just do it.

Lou 47:47

Yeah.

Keny 47:48

Don't be for me too much, just do it.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

Yeah.

Keny 47:51

Yeah, go through the motions, but get me all right, you know, kind of all right, now I gotta move on. And it's not for that.

Lou 47:57

Right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah, man. So thank you, bro, for being here. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. This shit went fucking faster than I thought it would, bro. Because it was like a I'm glad it was.

Keny 48:05

I think it worked out the way it was supposed to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were supposed to have him here, I think of it. I look at it now. He was meant to be here and have that sit down with us rather than do it on the phone. So I'm glad you showed up. Yeah.

Lou 48:16

Thank you. Hell yeah. And I said, and anybody has questions, you already know. You know, hit us up through the podcast or or through the Joe Jr. Could you still stay in on the on that website?

SPEAKER_03 48:26

There's the website, but there's no there's no way you can chat. Okay. We haven't we didn't s set that up yet.

Lou 48:32

Ah, well, you need to set that up, bro. Yeah. So this way, you know, you can turn around and on certain nights.

SPEAKER_03 48:36

Yeah. Whatever.

Lou 48:37

Yeah, well, even like that, just to ask questions and you know, you check it once a week, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Or you could do it like an Instagram page.

Lou 48:42

Right, like oh, yeah, even that Instagram page.

SPEAKER_03 48:44

I think I do have an email. Yeah. No website. So if there's any questions, yeah, shoot an email, whatever.

Lou 48:52

Yeah, so that means now when you go home, start working on that shit. You know, like I get it up and running and you know, spreading the word, dude. Yeah, you know. I said, because we're definitely gonna. So yeah, so thank you for being here, brother man. And uh, yeah, I said next time you want to come on, anything changes or whatever, just put the word out. We'll put the word out. You know what I mean? You can just send that message and we'll make it all happen like that. So thank you everybody for listening. Like, subscribe. All the good stuff, all the good stuff, all the good stuff. Whenever you find your podcast. Yes, yes, yeah.

Tom 49:19

We're all podcasts, podcasts.

Lou 49:21

Yes, all available. Yeah, you go. And YouTube, YouTube, watch the video, work with me. So love, peace, and hair grease, live long and prosper, and may the forest be with you.

Tom 49:30

Hello.