In this Pod, I talk to one of the smartest people I know. We have a very interesting conversation about recovering from being a people pleaser, dealing with reentry anxiety, friendships with Arabs, leadership, the importance of coaching, and so much more. My guest is well read, thoughtful, and taught me some very important life lessons. I’m excited for you to listen in on our conversation. "As Christians, we always have a good reason to do more. But we also need to make sure we make it to the end of the marathon."

"I didn’t even want to talk to people about my time in the Middle East unless they were interested because it felt like they were desecrating the memories of my friends and time on the field...I felt like I didn’t want to replace people. I felt like I had empty chairs in my heart, and I didn’t want to replace them with people back home. "

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Timeline 

• 1:00 From Teenstreet to home office to field 
• 3:48 The first two years on the field 
• 8:36 After the field, was it hard to make the transition back to your home country? 
• 10:21  How long did your anxiety last after reentry? 
• 11:56 Dealing with the intense reality of reentry struggles 
• 15:31 How did you relate to Arabs back in your home country? 
• 20:45 Recovering from being a people pleaser 
• 23:45 What kind of boundaries do you have in friendships? 
• 26:06 Going from single to married.
• 30:02 What does ministering as a couple look like? 
• 34:05 What have you learned about rest? 
• 39:06 Being on and off the field, how do you understand calling? 
• 41:03 Was the transition from field to home office difficult? 
• 42:56 How do you help people find their role? 
• 44:20 What is your leadership philosophy? Be a WASTER 
• 51:07 What is coaching, and why is it important?