This episode features our podcasters discussing grief and loss with social worker and thanatologist Amy Keiper-Shaw, the founder and president of Hands Holding Hearts in Newtown, Pennsylvania. This episode discusses the hard topic of loss as an adult as well as how to see child through their grief.

Hands Holding Hearts is a non-profit that supports all ages going through grief, with camps, therapy horses and dogs, therapy resources and other events. For more information, check out handsholdinghearts.org.