This week, Jay’s mom Susan and Lee’s dad Ernie join the pod! Tune in for a wide ranging chat about Jay and Lee’s early climbing days, and the importance of allowing children to do challenging things. Plus, hear some great stories about climbing with the parents. 

What do your parents think of climbing? Do they participate? Let us know @firstascentpod on Instagram!

Jay and Lee can be found at @jayknower and @xxleeweexx 

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The information expressed in this episode is for entertainment purposes only, and is not intended as, nor should it be interpreted as, informational or instructional.