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I'm still"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2851.544,"endTime":2854.928,"body":"figuring out how to use"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2851.544,"endTime":2854.928,"body":"Instagram for podcasting an"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2854.994,"endTime":2859.107,"body":"audio medium. Let me know if you"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2854.994,"endTime":2859.107,"body":"have any ideas. I'm currently"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2859.174,"endTime":2862.292,"body":"accepting submissions,"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2859.174,"endTime":2862.292,"body":"particularly for non d\u0026d"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2862.358,"endTime":2866.605,"body":"characters. So if you'd like to"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2862.358,"endTime":2866.605,"body":"share your character, you can go"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2866.671,"endTime":2870.718,"body":"to the submission form at"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2866.671,"endTime":2870.718,"body":"characterswithoutstories.com/submit"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2870.784,"endTime":2875.23,"body":"Thanks for listening and may all"},{"speaker":"Star ","startTime":2870.784,"endTime":2875.23,"body":"your characters find their stories"}]}