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Widening Your Capacity for More: Ministry, Motherhood & Purpose with Kiyanni Bryan
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When Clifton Ross Jr. and Kiyanni Bryan first met at a Black Christian Influencers event, they immediately connected like family despite coming from different worlds. Now, in this soul-stirring conversation, they dive deep into the delicate balance of building purpose while raising children.
Kiyanni shares her remarkable journey from banking executive to clinical program manager and entrepreneur, revealing how her publishing company was born from her own struggles as an author. With refreshing candor, she discusses the challenges of single motherhood while pursuing her calling: "I was thinking that since I was at every game, every practice, I was fulfilling something... but later discovered my daughter felt like a 'preacher's kid' who saw ministry take the front seat."
This conversation delivers powerful wisdom about creating proper infrastructure for your purpose. Kiyanni emphasizes that purpose is not instant revelation but an ongoing pursuit that requires character alongside competency. She challenges listeners to examine whether they're building with God or merely asking Him to bless what He never ordained: "We've built in His name and gathered in His name and not even invited Him to the party."
The most touching moments come when discussing how children actually refine our purpose rather than distract from it. While Kiyanni’s mother taught her to pray, motherhood transformed her into an intercessor—someone who strategically battles against spiritual forces targeting loved ones. This distinction revolutionizes how we view the integration of family and calling.
Ready to build a foundation that sustains both your purpose and your most important relationships? Listen now and discover why your first ministry always begins at home.
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How you doing . How you doing Clifton Ross Jr here here with another episode of the Summit Podcast , and I got a special guest coming on today and I'm just so excited for you guys to
Welcome to the Summit Podcast
Speaker 1meet her so she can chat with us for a second . But look , we're in a series right now called Infrastructure and it's setting the foundation for a strong purpose and I'm just super excited to have my friend , my sister , on real quick . Let me go ahead and bring her on real quick for you . So my friend , oh my God , my sis , kiani Bryant , oh my God , she is here in the building . Talk to him , sis . What's up ?
Speaker 2What's up ? I'm so excited to be here . Thank you so much , bro , for having me . This is very dope .
Speaker 1Awesome , awesome . Well , I'm going to get started . I'm going to kick this off . How did we meet ? How did we connect ? It was just like a God-ordained thing . It was just one of those things where two you know , two people from different worlds you can talk about where you , where you from , where you reside , and I'm in the Chicagoland area , and how do people connect on certain levels . So go ahead and talk about that a little bit .
Speaker 2So how we met . So we were in a group chat together for some time before we actually met in person . Right , so I am . I am from New York , but I live in Hampton Roads area of Virginia , in Virginia Beach , and I've been here for a few years and I noticed that Black Christian influencers I will always see them online on Instagram and I was like , oh , this is amazing , because I felt like at the time God was calling me to media . So I saw that they had an open position . I somehow got on their mailing list some years ago .
Speaker 2I that they had an open position . I somehow got on their mailing list some years ago . I saw they had an open position , so I tried out for it , because at that time I was a part of another woman organization here Christian organization where I was like their district regional manager and they were dissolving that organization . So it's almost like it freed up time for me to be able to contribute other places , because I believe in volunteering and serving in organizations such as BCI . So I joined and I started out with one particular role of just being on the board and then I ended up being the chapter president and so the next thing , you know , bci had its honors and weekend last weekend when we all got together and then I got to meet my brother in person . So , but we were in a group chat for for months before I actually got to meet him . I never really , even on our Zooms , no one ever was really on camera .
Speaker 2So , we never got to see each other . So then when we got together because it was the first time we all been in the same space all of the presidents and you know , and all of us that have served in our respective areas because I became the chapter president for the DMV area for BCI me and Cliff just immediately connected . He was like my brother . I always called him like the cousin at the cookout . You may not have been grown up with them , but then when y'all got together it was like there was no time missed . Yes , and so that was my brother . I mean , we hung out the whole weekend .
Speaker 2And what I love about I'm just brag on my friend real quick what I loved about him was that there were many different facets . You know , if you've ever served on the back end of a big conference or a summit Right or anything that's moving right , that takes on its own form as an organism , you've done all the work in the back end . But then it begins to grow and spread itself . And now what's happening
Meeting Through Divine Connection
Speaker 2in the motion ? There's a lot of moving pieces with that and there can be a lot of unexpected , unprecedented things . But what I loved about my brother and this is why I immediately gravitated to him was that he was completely chill , focused and positive the whole time . The whole time he gave pace and peace to us Pace and peace . So I so was attached to him . We continued our friendship and our sister and brotherhood over the time . So I'm grateful because we're getting ready to almost be a year of , you know , of God doing a thing .
Speaker 1Yeah , absolutely , absolutely . Sis man , I appreciate the kind words for real , because one thing I do not take for granted is genuine connections . Right , I think so many times when we get into certain spaces , we put the blinders on , we're not opening up for genuine connections . And I feel like that was an opportunity for us to connect and immediately we were connected . You know , it was like , bro , it's this , it was locked in .
Speaker 1So I'm definitely excited for what God did in that moment too , and it was just one of those experiences , too , where I can say about you how you you don't realize how much at that moment I needed you to speak into my life , right In a period of just waiting , of going with the flow , you know , not necessarily knowing what direction I was going to take , even in ministry or different things of that nature and you spoke to the person who I am and I don't take that for granted , I really don't , because I feel like a lot of people hold back , especially when it's like , like you said , that was the first time us meeting in person and I feel like a lot of people hold back , but you held no punches , you made sure you told her like it was . Uh , you spoke into my life and , uh , that was a pivotal point last year for me , uh , to digest that and that's the reason why the summit podcast is back into fruition now . This is simply because of that conversation , um , that you , that we had back then and I really do appreciate it . So you don't know why we locked in for real . So let's jump into a little couple of questions here . I'm going to just kind of jump into , like your background .
Speaker 1I know we talk . You know you're an entrepreneur . You got different endeavors that you do , ministry work , you know just career wise , you know . Kind of jump into your background a little bit . Tell those people what , what's , what's going on with that .
Speaker 2So let's see Professionally . My background was corporate . I was in banking for 15 years , did another five years in the nonprofit sector as office manager , so about 20 years in corporate .
Keani's Professional Journey
Speaker 2Meanwhile my degree is psychology and Christian counseling and minor special education and currently my job . Today my profession is I'm a clinical program manager for adults with intellectual disability . So this is my first time actually working in my profession , where I got my degree in . So that is my profession as far as my job is concerned .
Speaker 2But then , when it comes to the businesses that God has had me build over time , next month will be my publishing company right that I'm publishing will be eight years old and I publish self-published authors , and that journey , I feel like , is notable to share how that even came to be . While a New York life insurance agent at a time trying something new , I realized that in that space , no matter how hard I tried , that I necessarily was not called to do that Sometimes it always be like if you try really hard or you can be anything you want to be and do anything you want to do and you pray , hard enough and it'll work , but what if you're not called to the thing ? What if you're not wired for the thing right , and so , instead of us feeling defeated or feeling like we're out of place or losing courage and not being secure in the thing maybe we're not supposed to be doing the thing , but it takes time to be able to sit before God to ask God , what is it that you want me to do ? And that's oftentimes inventory and work that people don't want to commit to because it's a process . It's not something that's overnight . Purpose is a pursuit . Right , it's not something that's there , it's unlayered . As you get to know yourself and you get to know him , it unravels itself .
Speaker 2Ability to sell but I used to do what they call the FNAs , which is the financial needs analysis . So they sent me as the first chain of command to go and make these relationships with people to allow them to be comfortable . Then I partnered with somebody who had a stronger personality than mine , brought them in and they made the sale . And there goes me having no commission to now at least having 40% of commission , because I was more administrative . That was my natural presence and gift and I had the ability to make people feel comfortable because I'm a natural coaching counselor . So I realized I was like it's not necessarily for me to sell in this manner . But what am I supposed to do ?
Speaker 2And at that time a single parent , my daughter was younger , my daughter was an athlete , so I had a full-time job . And then my daughter was in all afterschool activities , you know , cheerleader , soccer player and I'm like I'm in , I'm in Liberty university , in school . I'm like , how do I create other streams of income ? Because when you come out of corporate sometimes it's hard to venture into that level of faith to believe that you can make more . Right , and what you're doing , you're set on . I know I'm gonna get paid on the 15th , I know this check is going to come , I know how many hours I work so I can factor out my money . And I was like I can't get another job because my daughter's already in school most of the day . Right , I only got a few hours with her at night in the weekends . What am I going to do ? And I said , you know , god began to give me dreams and everything else .
Speaker 2So I transitioned out of that insurance company phase . I get a actual job and position . But then I have an idea . Some creativity hits me after New York life , because that New York life when I was responsible for making my own commission . Now I can think like , hmm , I have the ability to make money on my own , so now what would I like to do ? So then I thought about it . My middle name is Shalima , and so I created a Shalima's Heart little greeting card company , because people said they used to call me the wordsmith . Oh , you got a little knack for writing and speaking and I always did poetry when I was younger . So I said you know , maybe I could do that , maybe I can do that . And so it started out a greeting card company . And then I was like , once I started writing , I had more to say . That greeting card company turned into a blog . Then my blog started looking like little eBooks . I said no , I got to get down , I got to write . I create my first book in four weeks .
Speaker 1That's good .
Speaker 2That year I wrote four books in one year . Jesus , people begin to ask me how did you do that ? And I begin to walk them through a process . I feel like it's notable to say whenever God shows you how to do something , you birth something that you have got to journal the experience and understand . The experience is not just for you , so you create how to's for people to help them walk through a thing where your gifts and your skillsets may have taken suit or stood up strong in a situation . Other people may not have that , but if you show them the how-to , they can birth as well and you place yourself in the position which I feel like every business owner is every coach is .
Speaker 1Every consultant is an intercessor .
Speaker 2They divinely intervene . If you're a leader , you're an intercessor because you bridge a gap . So I created a process . It started out with two of us and now my team is of 13 . So Write it Out .
Speaker 2Publishing is eight years old next month and I didn't create it because I wanted to be a publisher . I created it because I had a desire to make sure that self-published authors didn't go through the pain of resistance that I went through spiritually by trying to birth something , that I almost aborted the mission several times because I didn't have the support and the undergirding I need to get the book out that God gave me . In addition to that , I started business building . I started helping small business owners start their business . That's my grace . To start , I started helping coaches of coaches . They called me the coach of coaches or the leader of leaders , and I began to be very pastoral to other leaders because I understood that our responsibilities are different from those that we serve or those that serve with or under us , and I also realized that a leader , different from a boss , cultivates gifts they see and not just dictate to people . So my passion began to be to lead God's people , to be positioned myself as a spiritual midwife to make room for him , to help give clarity and understanding , and specifically out of the Keani Impacts LLC , which is kind of like the consultancy where I do life and business coaching . Writing out publishing is where I help the authors and the creatives with a signature course that's getting ready to open up next month called Release the Scribes . I also created an apostolic hub in this area to do training and prophetic intercession , prophetic culture and deliverance training , and I also have the Shalima's Heart Association that's now being positioned as a nonprofit for the youth that have went through what I went through as a juvenile , which had to do with jail and had to do with homelessness , abandonment and forced to care . So all of those things combined together , I've been doing as far as what God says , projects was doing , but I really just in short , help leaders that have been impacted in their identity , thriving kingdom life and business , and I do it through books , I do it through programs , I do it through these entities and now God is calling me to these younger people as well , that age range between 18 and 25 . Some of those teenage years where I wish that somebody would have let me know , even though I made some mistakes when I was younger , college was still an opportunity . Because when you get in trouble , they say get a job .
Speaker 2But what about your education and schooling ? I'm always going to support as far as education is concerned . I have , you know , degree . I'm going back for my master's , I have certificates is because when you allow the Lord to deal with your mind regarding education , it widens your capacity for more . So now I can take more in . Now my palate is different because I'm opened for more , you know .
Speaker 2So while doing education or pursuing , you know , make sure that you know your skill . I always , you know , encourage people . You know you got a gift . Press into it right . Don't just say I have this gift and don't inquire right , Because we want to be . We only want to be spiritually negligent by not checking into the things that's concerning us when we know that we have something there , you know . So that's a lot of . My background is I create spaces of things that I wish that I had . I really walk people through a lot of what God has processed me through . I didn't just walk through it , but he processed me through it , and now I boldly stand in the office that he's given me to be able to facilitate on his behalf . It's not that I'm so great , it's just I just make room for him .
Speaker 1Wow , wow .
Speaker 1So I just realized something in this that was very significant in what you were saying , and you said something towards the end that really rocked me Widen your capacity for more , and I think that's something that , for me , it has always been something that I desire , because I have so many ideas , I have so many endeavors , I'm creative , I'm administrative , like you said , I have all these bottled up inside of me , right ?
Speaker 1So you know , launching from launching a podcast , writing books , to being a pastor , to being a person who are who's there for men because of fatherlessness , and all these different things that God has instilled in me and my purpose so I think that was one of the reasons why God had to connect us is because he wanted me to see the fruit of somebody who widened that capacity for more , and I think it's significant in that and is a strong significance in that . I want you to kind of hit on a little bit on just like having this vision , having these goals in your life , but also raising your daughter doing that process , because you mentioned that you were a single mother doing this in the project .
Speaker 1Uh , in the process , right , and I can resonate with that . Yeah , you know , um , my children and I mothered we co-parentparent but in situations like you said , being in sports my son is in Taekwondo and he likes he's in soccer too . So it's kind of like navigating that , but still being geared towards your purpose and still thriving that dedication towards your purpose . What are some things doing ? That process has helped you , even with the relationship with your daughter , and how did you navigate that ?
Speaker 2That's a really good question because you know , when I started out the endeavors , I had her in mind . So I would say the first thought , you know , considering that , is that I kept her in mind and I kept legacy on the altar Right . I was conscious of the fact that the decisions that I made were going to impact her ability to dream . And so when she saw me going to work every day , that was one thing okay , mom is responsible , right . But then when she saw me creating and building , and the first time she came and attended the first event that I've hosted years ago , or the time I did a day seminar or workshop and I had her up with me helping me create the packets for the attendees for a day workshop that I used to do back in the day , it changed the position when she began to come to the award ceremonies where there were hundreds of women , that when I was a chapter president of the other Women Supporting Women Association and there would be up to a thousand women that were honored at these award shows , and she came and sat in there and got to see me , you know , on stage or ministering , or sharing or teaching
Balancing Purpose and Parenthood
Speaker 2, which was different and outside of the space of in church , right , because my daughter says she felt like a PK growing up . Right , she'll be 22 next weekend , right , and so she says she felt like a preacher's kid , you know , growing up , which I had no idea , right , you know , because I'm not necessarily a pastor but I'm a minister , you know . And when I was doing all those things , when she got to see me outside of that , it began to say , hey , maybe I could do some things , you know , maybe I can do this . You know what I actually like to do this , maybe I can make a thing .
Speaker 2And my daughter's first entrepreneurial suit cause she's extremely entrepreneurial , you know , she creates something . My daughter created an Etsy shop recently that she doesn't even . She doesn't even promote it . She doesn't even do like extra extreme , you know things with it and she makes money on reoccurring through this Etsy shop . People are buying what she's put together . She's an extreme creative . And then she's made body butter and bath bombs and help people with sensitive skin . Ironically , my mother has as well and my sister's an esthetician , so it's something that they kind of it skipped me . But you know , I do business in another way . But the creatives in that manner that physically make those things . You know , I begin to help her with that and , you know , allow her to dream and say you can do it . You know you can do those things . And one of the passions , because I really wanted her to know that , just because you know she had an idea . It wasn't just her idea , that could be a God thing , right , this could be a God idea , and sometimes we don't know the difference .
Speaker 2So navigating being mom while walking through all of these things has been challenging . If I , you know , completely transparent , I don't know how else to be it is , it is . It was challenging because I had to learn balance , rhythm and pace and I think by the time that was really established because I was newly in it , versus had I done it when she was younger . I think the timing that it started was around the time she was in those sensitivity of teen years time . She was in those sensitivity of teen years where she would have probably needed me more present , in a different way , versus if I were to start as smaller . We could have almost adapted to the thing and I think that sometimes , especially when you're single , it's not that her father was completely absent . He lived in another state and he wasn't there as much and he had other children as well , and so that did impact mom having to show up and constantly be consistent . So now I have a full-time job and I'm a college student because I need to have education so I can make more money .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I need to have education so that I can build out the ideas and have some understanding of the thing I'm trying to build . So now business means something different , now marketing means something different . I got to do what I got to do and the whole time . And I'm thinking , since I'm at every game , at every practice , that I'm doing something and fulfilling something , that it'll always be . At least she know that . Every time she looked in the bleachers of every game , she saw mom , wow , that no matter what whether I'm sick , if I I , I changed my work schedule when it came to being there for her . There's no question , I have to be there .
Speaker 1That's good .
Speaker 2And I think that the navigation of that for me was a few things . You know , um of that for me was a few things . Her teen years were very rough years and I think that now that she's older and we can have the conversation about some of those things from when she was younger , that's when I found out that she felt like she was a preacher's kid and that's when I found out that me being the minister , some of the things that she saw me walk through and endure , was some of the things that made her say I don't know if I want to be that .
Speaker 1Wow .
Speaker 2I don't know if I want to do that . Mom Right , I feel God calling me , but I don't know if I want to do that , cause if I got to go through what you went through , I don't know if that's what I want to sign up for . So that was something to navigate as well . I'm just giving perspective . I'm led to share it . I've never verbalized this before , you know , in an open space , but that is the truth of how my daughter felt , and so I would encourage parents that when God gives you the dream , when God gives you the vision to really spend time with him , to ask him where does everything fit in play ? Time with him ? To ask him where does everything fit in play ?
Speaker 2Because sometimes I have a strong work ethic and you leave me in front of my computer and I could be there for hours . I can be up to two and three and four in the morning because I'm an owl and I can produce all night . But you've got to make sure that you're showing up in the spaces that you need to show up for and don't lose sight of the original intent and vision . And I think that as kingdom people just like how people in the world endure sometimes our zealousness could pull us off course , because I remember when God told me Shalima's heart is very precious to me . He told me that . But then I went to go on and build a consultancy because I was like , oh , I could get more traction here being a consultant , I could get more traction here being a coach . But then it's like , hey , hey , hey , I brought you to the heart of these . It's to the least of these I've called you to serve and they're important to me . And if you do what I tell you to do and don't try to hand make this blessing on your own , there'll be a different grace that comes with the thing .
Speaker 2So I did waste a lot of time , some nights up all night trying to make something work . No grace on the thing created a , a course and it did not move . Wow . And it had to do with timing . It had to do with the time . Maybe there needed to be a semester that I put everything down and just help my daughter get through some of the challenging classes . Maybe there was a time that she started dating , maybe when I saw the first boyfriend . Maybe at that time that I needed to put the business down for a quarter and pay attention a little more , and she's my only daughter , you know , so I worked through a lot of those things . But I would say , as parents , you know , we want to make sure that our ambition stays God centered .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2That our ambition and our zeal stays God centered . And although we're doing it for them and we're , you know , I'm thinking I'm going to create all these things and she's going to inherit . So this is legacy being formed , the truth of the matter is they don't understand that quite yet , depending upon how old they are . So , even though we've made certain sacrifices for them in the name of when you get older , you'll see we can't negate where they are currently , because we can't tell a 12-year-old you know , you'll understand that 25 when the biggest thing in their life is 12 .
Speaker 2that's true so we got to come where they are and be more conscious and sensitive to our first ministry , which is in our house , before our external ministry man , this is rich , this is good , um my god .
Speaker 1So the reason why this is so significant for me is because my oldest he is 12 now he's coming in teenage years .
Speaker 1I have a four-year-old as well and it comes with a different set of challenges when you are trying to navigate those teenage years , like you said , and finding myself jump-starting all of these things during that time period . So what you're saying is super significant for me right now and I'm hoping the listeners are listening as well as because I really feel like we miss out on looking into their world right , what they're going through , how they need to navigate things . It might be , you know , the bully at school . It might be this girl talking about you know she ain't pretty enough , or my son is not handsome enough . Whatever it is . We miss out on those opportunities to be able to have these conversations where they're at now and I like how you said that they're like they can't see past where they're at .
Speaker 1Even though we want them to be that 25 year old that is going to inherit some of the business or some responsibility of the business , but we cannot negate where they're at at that moment . And a lot of times when I first started doing , when I was doing things in the past with my son , when he was a lot younger , I would have him alongside with me in different things that I did . Like you know , if I was doing media for the church , he's in the booth with me doing media you know what I'm saying ? Cameras , or he's going to , uh , showing them how to work the sound and those different things .
Speaker 1So I get that and I and it kind of makes me take a step back because I need to evaluate in this season of my life to make sure that I am cultivating , not only harvesting these businesses so they can be able to flourish and be profitable and to be fulfilling my purpose , but also I'm cultivating and fulfilling my son in this moment and making sure that he's having everything my sons , I should say , but I'm more so talking about the teenage son in these years .
Speaker 1So I think it's significant what you're saying , like this is so rich , this is so impactful and I think this is needed . So let's talk , let's unpack a little bit more about the ministry side of things , because I'm in a state of my life right now where I'm navigating . God told me last year to cultivate ministry in my sons last year , but this year he wants me to step back into my purpose , meaning ministering , delivering the word of God , pastoring , different things of that nature . How did you navigate that as your daughter was growing up ? I know you kind of talked a little bit about it , but let's kind of unpack that a little bit more . What did that look like for the both of you and what does it look like now for the both of you .
Speaker 2So I would say that , well , I was raised in church , so I've always been in church . I was one of those that would say the baby was born on the pew right , so I've always been in church . My grand uncle , which is my grandfather's brother one of his brothers was a senior pastor of a small Baptist church in Harlem and so I've always been in church . And the first time the Lord called me I was eight years old and I went up there to an altar call . I felt the Lord call me while I was in my seat and I went up there and I remember being baptized when I was little and you know kind of walking those things
Ministry, Motherhood, and Identity
Speaker 2out . And when I went through my teen years , that was very rough . I experienced abuse and as far as molestation , I became drug addicted because of the molestation and became a runaway and kind of lived on the streets and everything for a little bit from a family member . And when I became a young adult , my perspective on life and how I saw things , if you can imagine , was very survival mode . I learned how to survive because as a teenager , going through all of those things , I did get arrested , I was in gangs and all of those things . I got arrested . I was in group homes and when I came out of that I remember the Lord even called me as a teenager , began to beckon me again and it preserved my life to literally keep me alive , like not only by suicide attempts but by drug addiction and or gang affiliations of places that should not be , where I actually lost actual friends as a teenager because of the level of things we were in , and I remember me being locked up saved my life , but it molded my perspective on how I saw things and how I did things . I was also very broken as a young person . I had my daughter at 22 . And I had my daughter at 22 years old and kind of walking through those things when she was about three . I was in a backslidden state at that time . When she was about three years old , I was 25 . And I remember me like , okay , I need to get myself together as soon as three years old , I was 25 . And I remember me like , okay , I need to get myself together as soon as I found out that I was pregnant . I calmed everything down . I always say that she contributed to saving my life because I was a party promoter in New York I was kind of wild . From the Bronx I was kind of wild . I was kind of everywhere , tattooing everything , piercing everything . And you know , she came and stopped everything . And then , because I was raised in church and I knew better , I ran to somebody's church and I found out I was pregnant , you know , partially crying my eyes out like oh God , you know , and I went and put myself in therapy . I went through counseling as a child , but I put myself in therapy when I found I was .
Speaker 2The whole thought was I don't want to end up like me . I don't want to end up like me . I don't want to end up like me , wow . So I rededicated my life to the Lord at that time , about 25 years old , and I said , ok , I got to live a certain way because , even if I didn't care enough about myself , I care more about her than me and I can't be a bad example .
Speaker 2But also at that time is when I was introduced to deliverance ministry that same timeframe , about 25 years old because I'm like God , I'm doing everything that I can to live right , I'm doing everything I can to be consecrated , I'm allowing you to sanctify me . And this hurts because I don't know what people thought that sanctification does not hurt . But it hurts . And I'm allowing this to happen and I still feel like I'm struggling in the way that I can't quite get out , I'm missing something . And I got introduced into deliverance ministry and that changed everything for me . So as my daughter began to grow , I began to really instill prayer in her , and the goal was that , when she became a young adult and she moved away and we didn't live together anymore , that she would be able to get to God without me , if a case I couldn't get to her . So that began to begin to be my goal , and even though I went through different challenges all throughout that time , I always kept Jesus in front of her . So even when it wasn't in my vocabulary , I kept Jesus in front of her . I rededicated my life 12 years ago and I've been consistent and committed and faithfully living with the Lord in a consecrated lifestyle now for about 12 years , and so I've started in ministry .
Speaker 2I believe you can't lead until you serve . I served for many years without the intent of leading , and so I've always been in church , like whether I was cleaning the bathroom or the usher or uh , you know helping or assisting or whatever I can . I did join teams at church like prophetic teams dance ministry . It was part of dance ministry . My family's full of singers and my family's full of clergy . There's some dancers in my um my family as well and I'm talking about dance of the arts . So I did dance , worship and arts , uh , and so did my daughter and my mother . So we were always in ministry . My mother was a choir director . All of my family can sing and so I'm talking about maybe 150 person choir . So we walked through those things . But we were always in church and so my daughter was drug to church . She was drugged . You know I said thank your mommy that they drug you . She was drugged to church because I was in church all the time and I was a part of a lot of different moving pieces and ministry .
Speaker 2Now , when God called me to begin to build my own was probably about five years ago , but I was serving for a long time , about a decade , over a decade maybe . That I was serving , you know , as far as ushering and cleaning up and doing those type of things in the ministries that God had me in at the time , my daughter got very acquainted with church and she's had a lot of God moments and God encounters . She was filled with the Holy Spirit and received her tongues at 12 . And which was the same age I was when I received my heavenly language . I was 12 , turning 13 .
Speaker 2At the time . I was filled with the fire of God while my choir my youth choir was singing and literally jumped and screamed in the power of the Holy Spirit , which at that age you're usually kind of shy and embarrassed or shameful , but it was . The Holy Spirit took over me and I began to worship God in our church at the time , and so she had a lot of God encounters and God moments . But , like I said , you know she definitely felt like you know , mom , I feel like a preacher's kid . You know how it was in church all the time and that type of thing , and how you know ministry where she felt like sometimes ministry took the front seat and I saw it as I was bringing her to safety .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , I was making sure she was safe , you know , because the word of God says that the seat of the righteous shall be saved . And it also said if you train them up in the way they should go , when they get older they shall not depart from a thing . That's it , and I stand by the deposits that were made 100% .
Speaker 2As she transitions in her mid 20s . But when I begin to build my own things took on a different form and I call my businesses my ministry as well , but the ministry that I created , as far as because this hub kind of existed before . I called it a hub . I think the name of the hub came in the past two years , but when the Lord told me to build this .
Speaker 2All things considered , as far as my family , you know how I live . My family is very large . So , even though it's just me and my daughter , I have six brothers and two sisters . I have 22 nieces and nephews . I have a host of cousins , aunts and uncles . We all consider ourselves family to be close . Sometimes people will be like only my immediate family is in my house , but our family is comprised of the aunties , the cousins , my cousins raised as siblings , so that's not necessarily the case . So , all things considered and I'm the oldest of my siblings , you know what did that look like for me to open this and to begin it , because it's hard to not have the support of your loved ones or even your seed . Your children understand the level of responsibility that comes with leading God's people .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2You know , and so my navigation through the past few years has really been one . I have given my daughter back to the Lord . That's this one . I fully turned her over because , as much as we would like to believe , we are not our child's greatest influence .
Speaker 1That's true .
Speaker 2We are not . So we do our part , but then we have to let him do the rest . And I remember sometimes when I was overwhelmed , while she was going through her most delicate of years because she's 21 now , like I said , be 22 next week the Lord said let me parent with you because she's mine before she's yours . Yeah , so let me parent with you . So I let him parent with me , I let him show me how to respond to her . You know , we all were raised a certain way .
Speaker 2I was raised in a household where we did punishments , you know whoopings and you know all the things like don't play with me , mama grab , you know all that type of stuff . I was raised in all of that . But this generation is completely different . So the Lord's like hey , hey , I need you to seek me before you deal with this , Before you discipline , before you punish , before you would I need you to check with me first before you navigate that space . So I think that when it comes to ministry and navigating that motherhood part , I really had to remember that she was the first ministry .
Speaker 2I just told somebody this this week that my mother taught me how to be a prayer warrior . I learned how to pray through my mother because she's a praying woman . So I learned how to pray through my mother and my two of my aunts and my grand uncle was that preacher , but it was my daughter that may be the intercessor . That was totally different . I learned how to love and to travail .
Speaker 2See , when you , when you're praying and you're communing with the Lord , that's one thing . But when you begin to intentionally engage hell on behalf of somebody else and you interject in somebody else , in the enemy's plan for somebody else's life , and help push the narrative that God wants for them , instead of the thing that it seems like life is pulling them into , you become a divine , divine disruptor and that is an intercessor . And because when you become that now , you've placed yourself in a whole new level , because we have authority over our children . We have authority over our children . You may not have authority over another adult , but even when our children are young adults , we have authority over our kids . That's what God has given us jurisdiction and rank over .
Speaker 2So I learned how to be intercessor through the prayers of my child , through praying over my child , through protection over my child , through interceding over my child is where I really learned how to seek God on behalf of someone else , which is what intercession is right , and that posture of prayer . So , with ministry , I just had to remember who's who and what is what , and I think that nothing is perfect , but I think one of the main things for those of us that have children and we're in ministry , what I would do differently is I would check the pulse of our children a little bit more when it comes to how they see God , because they begin to see God the way that God is presented to them . And if God is presented to mom and to dad you know where dad and mom are in church four times a week how do they see God ?
Speaker 2That's good , you know what I mean , so I would check that . I remember something . I'll share this and I'll give it back to you , bro , I remember Creflo Dollar . I don't know if you remember years ago Creflo Dollar was in the news for the situation that happened with his daughter and I remember that was a thing that was talked about where you know Creflo , they said the daughter , you know , he grabbed her or she called the police on him and because he's Creflo , that thing hit the news , you know , and skyrocketed and became a thing .
Speaker 2And I like Creflo . You know I respect all ministers . I'm not going to hear me say nothing about no , because I don't know the cost of somebody else's oil . I would not dare . And I respect and honor seats I have not sat in and don't ever talk about God's sons and daughters . I have no right to do so . And so I love Creflo and something that I remember back in the day watching TV .
Speaker 2And Creflo blessed my whole life teaching us about the grace of the Lord , especially kind of growing up in strict religion , organized religion , that the grace of God , that he'll still love me when I make a mistake . Oh , my God , that I can make a mistake . My God that the grace of God is sufficient . And what exactly does that mean ? Oh , my goodness . And then , when you understand really his grace , you don't want to do things that be like , oh , grace covered me . You don't want to cut up on purpose and be like , oh , god forgives me or Jesus know my heart or any of those things , because his grace is sufficient . When you understand the grace message , you have a desire purely to live in love for him . And Creflo helped me do that . Shout out to Creflo .
Speaker 2So I remember hearing all the things in the news about his daughter and I remember thinking I was so hurt by it because people that were not a part of kingdom or Christendom was judging him so strongly . And I remember thinking , because I got so many siblings and my family's large , I'm like you really don't even know the true narrative of what took place in that house . I don't care what we see on the news , we don't know what happened . But come to find out years later and a lot of people that follow up on this . I was like I wonder if people knew , or they knew and they just didn't care to share . That same daughter that called the police on her daddy because he grabbed her one night when he told her but to stay in the house and not go out , and she tried to go out anyway because she was rebellious . That same one is one of the ones that , in a whole season , not only did she get her life right with God , but she began to preach itinerantly and travel with him . Wow , and come to find out that she was angry and mad at him for not being there as much .
Speaker 2So it it , it it bursts out into the . You see what I'm saying . So the whole time we were looking at him , judging him all , like you know , prefer , like he was an abusive man or any of that other stuff . You know , we African-American families , we do handle things a little differently with how we handle stuff in our home , you know , and , and and to find out that his daughter was really had this underlying anger with him . You know , and and I remember hearing other ministers say something I wish I would have done while I was building ministry Uh , so I wish I would have checked it with my kids a little more , because they were ticked off , because mom and dad wasn't there as much as they could have been .
Speaker 2And now their perspective and this is my part . I'm saying the perspective on God now has fit in this narrative of how I've seen mom and dad live and I feel like any of us that navigates ministry got to check the pulse of the babies a little bit more , just to see how they see and understand that and assure them . Your walk with him is different from my walk with him . You've got to allow your own story to be , but we can lead them and guide them . But the truth is my daughter's testimony is going to be completely different from mine , 100% , completely . So I can't you know , we can't coddle them in a way of like they're gonna groom them and give them the pressure of I gotta do it the way dad did it , I gotta do the way mom did it , you know I gotta do it this way grandma did it , or whatever , because this is what I saw , but giving them the freedom because they're in a whole nother generation . They have to deal with the enemy in a different way . They have to confront hell in a different way , you know . So that's something I would do again if I could do it , and I would definitely prioritize that time to just kind of check with her , like I said , to have some moments in time with her , but really just to kind of see where she is .
Speaker 2Because now is learning God for yourself , outside of your parents . I feel like we've done our part in our job , but then it has to be a point where God , I got to know you for me . I know she's going to have to do it because I had to do it and I was 30 something years old when I did it . Jesus , god , I know who you've been to , family and even who you were to me little . But now I got what big people problems Right , I got adult issues . I need to know you're here for me and how you're here for me and what our relationship looks like at this phase of my life , at this time in my life , you know .
Speaker 2So my ministry really for the most part , like I said , it's my businesses , but the impact ministry hub is really where the ministry flows and there's courses and in-person trainings and online things . We got a Facebook group and everything else that teaches apostolic training . There's other pastors in there , leaders in there , those that are creatives , business owners , leaders that just need the training because necessarily sometimes their house doesn't provide it and there's no shade to that because you can't get fully trained on a Sunday morning , that's maintenance of your life as a believer . That's the community of the assembly of the brethren . But on a Sunday service that's completely different . That's probably the most evangelistic time of the week , right ? Bible study says I want to take it in a little deeper and when I want to learn the scripture , understand the reign and the revelation of the word . So that's a little different . But I created training grounds for people to be able to be trained .
Speaker 2Hey , I got this prophetic gift . What are my gifts ? What does this look like ? I can get lost in prayer . I can pray for over an hour and not have forgot that it was an hour . What's going on with me ? I have these dreams and I really feel like God is speaking , but I don't know what they mean .
Speaker 1That's good .
Speaker 2So that's what my ministry mostly consists of , but I remember that my house is the ministry first .
Speaker 1That's it . That's it . I'm going to chime in here because you man , it's rich . I'm trying to take notes , I'm trying to listen , trying to do multiple things at the same time here . One thing that I'm going to reiterate , because I like to kind of put things in my own words , and one of the things that I feel like you said that was super significant , is that essentially , your children will refine your purpose . And the reason why that came up in my mind is when you were saying that how your mom created a prayer warrior but your purpose was refined to be an intercessor through your daughter . And I feel like we take that opportunity for granted to have our purpose refined by our children . And that's also stepping into , like you said , making your children that first ministry , making your home that first ministry , because it begins to refine and fine tune that purpose that's inside of you . Another piece that I want to talk about is the checking , the temperature part that you said .
Speaker 1I feel like a lot of times that literally the first example of Jesus that our children see is us , and if we're not being that example or , like you said earlier you were saying like you- know , I don't know if I want to go through what you went through , mom , because you went through a lot during this process of your walk with Christ and different things of that nature , and or if it was you know somebody else , where they saw a lot of things that were being abused in church and they see that as an example of their Christ-like person in their life through their parents .
Speaker 1It kind of deters that you know that whole process for them in the way that they see God , their relationship with God in the beginning is sought through us and how we operate and what kind of example we are . Yeah , later on down the line , they're responsible , right , they're responsible for their walk with Christ . They're responsible for the things that they're accountable to and the things that they don't do and the temptation and the sins and the different things of that nature . But it's refined through . But if they don't get that in the beginning from us , it's detrimental . And I think about this . You know , in the Bible with the when the Kings of Israel , you know , typically when it came to the next King it was like is he going to take on the attribute of his ?
Speaker 1father or is he going to depend on Yahweh ? Is he going to depend ? That's true .
Speaker 1So I feel like that's significant is that what is trade ? What is , uh , transitioned down through the bloodline ? It talks about in deuteronomy , that the sins of the father goes to the second and the third generation . I think it's really important for us to understand is that the way that our churches see god and the way that they begin to understand how to depend on God is through the example of us . Are we having idols in our home ? Are we doing different things that are displeasing to God ? Or even , in the sense , are we being so busy in church that we forget that the first church or the first ministry is them and we're not showing them that they're a priority ?
Speaker 2in their life .
Speaker 1Yeah , but I think it's really deep what you said and I think it's super important and I hope the listeners can really was taking as much notes as I was during that whole process as you're talking about that uh so yeah , I'm , I'm just in awe awe and I got something with that .
Speaker 2What you just said that I want to throw in real quick Is that I recently was praying this and I was saying I was there for a lot of young people , like I was the auntie , the other mom To a lot of my daughter's friends , and I think that what we need To keep in mind and I feel like this is very important Is that was the auntie , the other mom to a lot of my daughter's friends and I think that what we need to keep in mind and I feel like this is very important is that when we are the ministers that we are , in , whatever capacity that we are , when it comes to our kids we are mom and dad , not the preacher , the pastor , the minister . You know , because sometimes trying to pastor our kids instead of mom and dadding our kids could pose a problem as well , and so when it comes to our own children , it is differently handled than how we would necessarily probably be there for somebody else's child . Or you know another young person or those people that we're called to in our ministry , and I remember when the Lord showed me you know you are her mom . You're not her pastor or her , you know a preacher to her . She's not a part of your audience , of who you're preaching to .
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying , that you are her mother and you know I think that is that's notable because sometimes it's almost like for those of us like I'm a counselor and a psychologist , right , and I'm trying to psycho analyze . You know everybody around you understanding about the relationship and the honor , the respect of the space , and you know keeping a mind and heart , because it keeps a different level of compassion . When you said this is my seed , the genealogies and the word of God make it very clear about the passing down , about iniquity , about the stepping in foot of , about the things that are past . I remember my mother used to always say sometimes she felt like she was in a spiritual battle , fighting things that didn't even belong to her . That sounds like iniquity to me . You know what I'm saying , something that was passed down and passed down and passed down , and they were born into this bloodline and God does so many things and oftentimes we talk about generational curses but we don't talk about generational blessings , because there's a lot of blessings that flow through the ability to do certain things , graces and anointings , but we got to remember that , even when it comes to that with our kids , they'll pick up some things from us , they'll inherit some things of these bloodlines . They it may turn around to be a great aunt . And then you know your , your , your daughter ended up doing the thing . You know your , your grandfather did a thing it was never done before and then all of a sudden , you see it in your son . You know , um and the thing . So those things do happen .
Speaker 2You know , as far as the passing down of a thing but the intentionality of awareness is a big component of that and understanding that us as ministers have responsibility and obligation . But when we come to the house , you know , understanding , we have another hat on . When we come to the house , now , our lifestyles are consistent so that we let our kids know that this walk with Jesus is authentic and this is real . So we act the same at home , right , people say you're going to act the same at home that you act in church . You know what I'm saying . That has a lot of truth to it and the tone that people say it in .
Speaker 2But the truth of the matter is , at home , this is different . Right , I have a different handle from being a mom than than being prophet Keani , how they refer to me at the house , or being elder Keani or whatever that is , but I am mom . That is a different speed and tone . I let Jesus as the center and the focus and that is our default is to go to God in prayer , but understanding that when you walk through that door , you are mom , you are dad . You are not pastor . This , you are not deacon . This , you are not elder , this , you are mom and you are dad . And that comes with balance as well , of knowing what we're dealing with . At the time that we're dealing with , and what I begin to pray was that God , let there be someone , let there be someone's mentors or teachers or loving aunties or loving uncles that will come and be for my daughter what I've been to so many others . Wow , wow , wow , wow .
Speaker 1Woo , wee , wee . I think I'm going to transition real quick Made the screen go black . I'm going to transition real quick .
Speaker 1I want you because , like I said , one of the things that I'm trying to exude in this podcast is that building that strong foundation so you can fulfill your purpose , you know , creating a new infrastructure for your life and just really going after it . Right , no excuses , um , not being a person that is , you know , making making any excuses , right ? So I want you to kind of speak to that and just , uh and this is more of , I'm asking for profit , this a profit , um , asking for that . So I want you to kind of speak to that for a moment and just allow the lord that you just kind of speak to myself the a moment and just allow the Lord to use it to kind of speak to myself , the listeners , whoever whatever the Lord leads you in regards to that , so that people can understand that the time is now to really authentically fulfill your purpose and just go after it . We'll give you a second to go ahead and do that and go ahead , go for it .
Speaker 2Okay . So when I think about the infrastructure to purpose you know , which is why we're gathered here there's a few things that come to mind regarding laying the foundation and I think about you know , the Lord says worship me in spirit and in truth , and what that really means and what that's consist of . And I think that that needs to be considered when we talking about laying a firm foundation right Laying something that is going to be spirit-filled , right Laying something that we know is going to last and endure long-term , laying something that is true and real . And I've seen so many times where we have been so speedily to get to a place and even will abort process along the way , to try to create something or put something in motion . And I think that in this year that we're
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Speaker 2in , so every year , there'll be a word that the Lord speaks over the year , and the Lord told me that this was the year of overflow . Every end of year , I asked the Lord about the following year and he told me that this was the year of overflow . But what I've come to realize is some of the contingencies that come in the prophetic words that God will share with us . It has to do a lot with your positioning as to what you were doing prior to the time . So sometimes we'll hear something , we'll get excited and we'll grab a hold to it , but we haven't done our part to be positioned to receive the thing . So I could prophesy over you all day that you're going to get a master's degree , you're going to get a doctorate , but if you never do your admissions or registration for school , that will be null and void . You won't be able to do so Right ? So the thing is is that we got to position ourselves . A lot of things is an if , then then that . And sometimes we're looking for the then that , but we didn't do the if what Right ? So I that , when it comes to the foundations , I think that God's grace has given us time .
Speaker 2I feel like the past two years we've been in a place of preparation to get things straight . I feel like that sometimes we've listened to prophetic words and have run and , run and run with it , but then we have not still done the groundwork to be able to sustain long-term what it is that we're praying for , what it is we're petitioning heaven for and what it is that we're wanting to receive from God . And I know that , when it comes to the capacity part , oftentimes our capacities are stifled and they're small and they will say God , break me out of this box . But there's a box that you're sitting in willfully . It's a place that you've not done . You know we've not done our part or our due diligence to make sure that we stretch those of us that have skill sets and techniques . Are we pressing into it ? Are we reading ? How many books have we read about it ? When people come to me and they ask me how do I use my gifts ? How do I function in spiritual giftings ? I have this and this and this . How do I do that ? My basis to them ? I always send them to the same book and it's how does God speak ? I'll give them the exact same book . Why ? Because you have to know how you hear him . You have to know how he speaks to you so that you then know how to navigate all of the other things .
Speaker 2I think that purpose is a pursuit . It is something that's going to unravel over time , but it has to do with your positioning . It has to do with your foundation , because here's the part that a lot of us don't want to do in here , and it is process . It is process . Process is painful , process is uncomfortable . Process makes you uncomfortable on purpose , so you can grow . Anything that's comfortable cannot grow . You've got to shake it , you've got to stretch it , you've got to push it , you've got to pull it in order for it to be what it needs to be . If you are comfortable , you're not growing . That is an absolute fact .
Speaker 2So when you're talking about infrastructure , when you're talking about building the pillars of this house , and you're talking about building the concrete of this house and making sure that the walls are not hollow , making sure that the pillars and the beams make the house stand long-term to endure storm , what happens when a lot of those places and areas where there's high hurricane season and all of those things , those houses that are on the beach are on stilts but also the first ones to be wiped ? Is it because they're closer to the water ? Is it because those beams are not on a sturdy and a firm foundation , because it's built upon sand ? I believe that God is warning us . I believe it's his love and kindness that's chasing us and saying hey , guys , I know that you're building , I know that you're creating , I know there's a million ideas , I know there's all these businesses , but don't do it quote unquote in my name without me , because at the end of the day , he is the infrastructure . At the end of the day , he is the foundation . At the end of the day , he is the anchor . He makes sure that you're not the shit without a sale .
Speaker 2It is him , and we have built in his name and gathered in his name and not even invited him to the party , not even invited him into the plans , not even invited him into our ideas . Not have we have pushed him into the place of ? Oh , I dreamt about this and maybe this is what he said . We don't even seek him about the things that we're doing or the hardships that we come against . We've deemed everything the enemy , but sometimes we're just walking out the consequences of our decision-making and our choices that had to do with us creating something with our hands that was handmade and hand-bred , and now we want him to upkeep something that he didn't even say . That is infrastructure to purpose . I'm going to build it with him . I'm not going to leave him . I'm not going to abort the mission . Do you know what we build without him ? You are so easy to veer off .
Speaker 2I've seen so many people start with him and end up somewhere totally different . They have sailed and flown and floated away so far away from the goal . And just because you get some traction , just because people show up , just because it's likes and shares , just because people sold into you , just because God did not disappoint them and allowed them to be blessed through you , don't mean we right , it don't mean it's him because he blessed those that participated . But what's the thing that he told you to do in the form that he told you to do it ? Because then we end up drained , then we end up burnt out , then we end up feeling like it's obligation , then the joy done got sucked out of the thing that we once had such excitement to do . Now we don't want to do anymore . Oh , I got to do this again . Oh , I got to go live again . Oh , I got to do this again . Oh , I got to go live again . Oh , I got to build this again . Oh , I don't even want to talk on the phone . Now we burnt out and drained because we didn't keep him centered and focused . I've seen people gather over 200 people every week in the name of saying we're going to come for God , but they're not doing the thing that God told them to do . So .
Speaker 2The mark Sin has to do with doing your own thing . Sin is different for everyone as you mature and grow . See , those commandments was a base right . But then as you grow and mature in God , you hear him differently , you have to respond to him differently and what will be sin for you will not be sin for me . The sin is when he done , told you different and you doing your own thing and you doing something else . And now we say God , breathe into this . Everything is resilient with the Lord , it is redemptive and he can blow air and life into anything dead and awakened , into anything dormant and awakened , but not the thing that he did not say .
Speaker 2Because then that arrogance says oh , I know better , that's what you're not saying out of your mouth , but that's what you're doing in your actions , I know better . I think this is the way to go , I think we should do this and that , and truth be told , that is what's wrong with the body of Christ as a whole . That's why so many different doctrines . If you look at the history of a lot of different denominations and so many different doctrines that is formed so much , you got more people not reading their Bible and going by what people are saying out of their mouths , and you got more of those people that's growing influence saying things out of their mouths . That's about how they feel and what they think , versus what the word of God says .
Speaker 2Now we are a culture that's led by flesh and we are carnal because it's how we feel and what we think , as if every feeling and thought is valid and that your glasses and your perspectives have not endured the impact of your past season's disappointment , and everything that we think we see through our glasses is correct that we must humble ourselves before the mighty hand of the Lord . I will venture to say that a part of infrastructure has to do with the honorable , reverential awe , fear of God . That's good Because we've lost it , God , that's good Because we've lost it . We've let this freedom , culture free , free , free to where this liberation has gotten us in trouble because it has no anchor . It has no anchor and some people have mistaken purpose for passion and some of those passions are not godly when some of those ambitions have got us into trouble . And if you want to learn and know what to do and how to do , I think that we need to look at the fruit and examine it , because sometimes we have allowed people to skate and get by because they've been gifted , but the gifts of God are without repentance , so that means that we can't go by , that we're going to have to go by character .
Speaker 2And I posted something on threads the other day . Guys , go follow me on threads . I just love threads . I just be cutting up on threads At Keani . Be on threads and Instagram , right ?
Speaker 2Something I posted on threads the other day . I said hey sis , hey bro , don't fret , because your character will outlive any lie that's been spoken about you . And your character is how we determine who is who and what is what sustainably . So we are so numb in the body of Christ . That's why , anytime anybody gives me an opportunity to speak , one of the things that God has me to do is say wake them up , wake them up , wake them up . I need you to awaken them because they are asleep and they are numb . They are so used to a thing going the way it's been . There's no intentionality , as we just kind of let it float , we kind of let it skate .
Speaker 2And how do we know this ? Because we look at the generations under us and how they deal with a lot of the struggles and the things that they don't even understand , right ? There's a different level of fight , I noticed , in our generation than it was in the younger generations , right , because they kind of want something without having to do all the studying for it . It's like I expect to get an A on this test but I didn't do all the studying , right , like , why did Sue get honor roll and Stacey didn't ? And Sue stayed after school . Sue committed to a tutor . Sue did not go out with her friends every weekend . Sue knew she had a test coming up . Sue put herself in a level of sacrifice and then she reaped the reward of her sacrifice , while Stacey said I'm only going to go to school , I'll only go to school when school is open . I'm not staying late , I'm not giving them no extra time , I'm not studying , I'm hanging , I'm doing all of these things .
Speaker 2Well , believers kind of think come something like Sue and Stacey , because where is the building up of prayer , where is the importance of prayer ? Where is the studying and spending time with God ? You know that strength , power , authority , identity and jurisdiction in the spirit to be able to navigate , has to do with spending time with him . You can spend one hour with God . You can go and put yourself in an eight hour course . Spend one hour not even an hour 20 minutes with the Lord in devotion and get full clarity on the thing that you were begging everybody else for .
Speaker 2For those of us as prophetic junkies that try to look for everything moving , to try to hear from God , instead of going to him ourselves to hear what he had to say about a thing , the men and women of God don't always and I feel this , I don't know who this will be for the men and women of God that come and get prophetic words won't always confirm a word . People , we have limited prophecy to that . Oh , it's confirmation . It's confirmation , it will be confirmation . However , there's a possibility you will hear a prophetic word that you ain't never heard before . Let's not limit God to it's only something that , as if , as if you know everything he's trying to tell you . That is not so .
Speaker 1That part .
Speaker 2It can be something that you've never heard before . And it could be something that you've never heard before , and it could be something that brings you into a new space and at that time you could decide whether you shelf it , because there have been some prophetic words . I'd be like I don't really see this right now and I mean I'm talking about completely different from my whole course of life , and then turn around and I'm walking out those things . Just because you can't see it and trace it don't mean it ain't so . So then we always pray about that too . God , what are you saying to me at this time and this hour ? Because it's a car anointing that they knew the times and the seasons , and one of the key leadership components of being a great leader has to do with self-awareness , and what's happening in the body of Christ is not enough leaders . There's a lot of people that have skipped process , want the notoriety , have skipped process and then leading literally a nation , and I'm talking about a people group and this is why we've gone through so much trouble .
Speaker 2We're dealing with it in the world . That's why reformation is going to happen at its finest , but a part of reformation . I'm going to put together this thing and I think I'm going to do it on my podcast show . I'm trying to figure out . I thought I was going to preach it in church , but I'm going to do it on my on my podcast show . I'm trying to figure out . I thought I was going to preach it in church but I'm not really sure . But it's the prerequisites of revival and we're talking about reformation and we're talking about revival and we're so excited about it . But I don't think that we're paying attention to the fact that things have to get shaken up . Really bad , because what is revival ? Ain't it revival ? Something that's dead ? That means there's going to be a level of impact that we're going to have to experience in order for there to be something to even revive . That's right .
Speaker 2And when we talk about reform , where we're going to change , it is really bringing repentance back to the house of the Lord . It's bringing back repentance and our country , you know our country . I was talking to a friend today that worked in a big bank in New York City and that bank got . It was an honorable bank , a big commercial bank , a wealthy bank that was so small but made just as much money as some of the other big dogs like JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America , whatever . You know , I come from banking and I realized that you know , they went through this big thing . They were in the news and they started getting , you know , kind of going through some of those changes that corporations go through pick them apart , change their name , break them off into little pieces , do sweeps , bring new people in and all the other stuff . And now what was a strong , firm organization is now feeble , weak , hanging on by a thread , not sustainable , everybody's , miserable , firing a lot of people , bringing in a lot of people . All the bringing in the new people don't carry the same heart and the same passion and the same integrity as the old ones , you know , and I said , and all the things that they've done , and even though there's many of them on the ground level that still have integrity , that still care about the people , that still want to do the right thing , we still are following what's happening at the head . We are submitted to the culture because the headship right . You can't change culture from the lower level . You got to change culture from up . You know what I'm saying Because that culture is the way we do things as systems . If you have no decision-making authority , you can't change a culture . So when it talks about culture and we talked about those that's in leadership , that's making these decisions . And now , because of your back end side door , aka green room decisions that a lot of our leaders have made and are making , that's making all these secret alliances , aka demonic alliances and have done different things .
Speaker 2Now we as a people , that organization , us as a nation , are feeling the effects of that , the purity to the leadership and the summit that I just hosted , one of the things God spoke to me about was the seven mountains of influence to be specifically highlighted . And so , at the distinction summit that we just did not this past week and the weekend before , we had a builder session day on Saturday afternoon where we did two different panels . One was the Marketplace Ministry Leaders , the other was the Creatives and Kingdom Innovators , and we did a panel of at least seven or eight people to talk about their position with this . These are my friends in the area . Some came from out of state that have walked out ministry , have walked out business . Their senior pastors and leaders have built corporations , who have been some six figure income earners , who have done this thing and work and live for God as they've been doing it . But I've watched them integrally walk our process , not that they were perfect , but that they remembered whom they were serving as such . And God gave them seats at the table Because my burden was not that we would take over the mountains of influence . Right , satan is the rule of the air . I don't necessarily think that , but I do believe that the people of God should be invited into certain spaces and rooms . Right , we're not coming in there speaking in tongues , but we're coming in there with the wisdom and the genius of God , and so when we're coming in there with that , now God enters into these boardrooms and into these table talks . Now , because somebody that carries his wisdom and his presence now shifts the atmosphere . And now God has been invited into this conversation . So I feel all of that has to do with infrastructure and it also has to do with our purpose .
Speaker 2I think that every good leader in this season , what needs to happen is we got to take inventory on where we are , so we know where we're going , so you know what you need . So you know what you need to strengthen . We need to know our strengths and our weaknesses . Everybody wants to talk about their gifts , but what about your character ? Integrally , we got to make sure that's a part of the foundation . That needs to be well , because you're going to always have a people group that's misguided If , individually , everyone doesn't take the time that they need to to learn who they are and what they're supposed to be doing . If you've got a bunch of people out of alignment , you're going to have a mess . But when you want to have a revival hit , a people group is going to have to be in the hearts of each and every one of these . It's going to have to be individual revelation , individual pursuit , individual understanding , something that we need to pray for . God , give me greater levels of understanding .
Speaker 2That's it , god give me wisdom , so I know how to keep the millions and there is balance with yes , we are supposed to have influence , yes , the body of Christ is going to experience a wealth transfer , but if you ain't got nothing in your hand , I'm not quite sure how you expect to receive it .
Speaker 1You're right . Foundation . That's good . That's good , sis , like I really appreciate the word Jesus gave . I'm going to point out one thing that you said towards the end , and it was really powerful , because one thing that God is teaching me is that everything , if I stay connected and aligned with him , everything that he gives me , I'm going to be able to hold and maintain , because his hands is going to be on it as well , and I think that's significant and important . As you're going through this process of finding your important , as you're going through this process of finding your purpose , you're going through this process of creating this infrastructure . If you're going through this process , aligning yourself in the presence of God and being that person , I think it's significant .
Speaker 1It's important to understand that this time you're going to be able to handle it . This time you're going to be able to maintain it . This time it's not going to fall through your fingers , because you prepared for that moment to be able to handle it . This time you're going to be able to maintain it . This time it's not going to fall through your fingers , because you prepared for that moment to be able to do it . So , on that note , look , sis , how can the people
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Speaker 1support you . How can the people connect with you ? Shout out your social media , your website , your platform , all the things . I'm going to have it all in the show notes so people can connect with you as well , but tell them how they connect with you .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 2So , and I'm so blessed by tonight's session this was really good . But how they can connect with me is at Kiani B on old social media networks . So it's at K-I-Y-A-N-N-I-B and that's on YouTube , that's on Instagram , that's on threads , that's on Facebook . I believe it's Kiani Impacts on Facebook , but at Kiani B on Instagram . We'll kind of link you to everything else . My website is my first and last name kianibryancom .
Speaker 2I'll be launching my signature course for writers next week . It'll be released as Scribes Course Bootcamp . It is a six-week course for creatives , for writers , but it's not just limited to authors . It's talking about how to deal with the inner healing of a creative understanding that your soul was impacted in your soul and what you're enduring your soul has to do with how you create , because it comes out of the same space , and so when people are dealing with a lot of soul trauma that's undealt with , then they can't create or they bleed out and try to make all of their pain purpose without healing all the way from it . So we make sure that we deal with that so people can write from a place of victory , build from a place of victory . Who comes out of this course ? That this is a cohort number five we're doing is live interacting engagement . Every April to maybe do a graduation . You get certified as a scribe , which is a kingdom governmental official that speaks the heart of God . But not just books have been created from this , but courses and programs . I believe even the mini events and podcast shows have come out of it , because it has to do with kingdom content creators , creativity and creatives as a whole . So that opens on next week . I'll be opening on my one-on-one mentorship , the impact mentorship . I'll be opening that next month , getting ready to open that next week as well , because it'll be open next month . It'll be a five-month one-on-one with me mentorship program . The group portion will open in June for the summer . But those are the things that I'll really be putting my weight behind this year so I can position people and kind of help them get to where they need to be . And I'll say this , bro , and then I'm done and thank you so much for having me .
Speaker 2But I got stifled for a second because I felt like I had a glimpse of what God wants to do with this podcast . But the Lord really is going to breathe on this and you know , the Lord just basically wants to let you know that your trust in him will not be in vain . It never has been , but the timing is now for such a thing , and I see where the Lord says I will show you how to steward that which has come , because I see almost like some moving facets and moving parts of this . You're like God , you're still trying to fill your way through , like how am I going to manage it , but the Lord says that I'm going to show you how to steward it because I've already gone before you regarding this . I've just been waiting for you in a time and a space regarding this . So the Lord's going to breathe on this and it's going to really help and minister to people .
Speaker 2I hear the Lord say that your mission and your ministry is expanding beyond borders , that it has been in times past , and the Lord says it will even take on different forms and look in different ways in the days to come . The Lord says it will be a lot of what I told you from before . I don't know what that is , but the Lord says it'll be a lot of what I told you before that you didn't step into fully . The Lord says now you have the grace , the permission , the okay and the access to step into fully for what I've told you , for what you've written , for what you've kind of plans you've made . And the Lord says blow the dust off those old blueprints . I'm going to allow a thing to be birthed , I'm going to allow things to come forth , says the Lord .
Speaker 2The Lord says this is your year of breaking forth . And I see what looks like water coming out of a rock and I hear the splash of water . He said this is your year of breaking forth , breaking forth , breaking forth . And I remember that there was a word that was given to me some years ago when I was in a time of pain and anguish , and what was said to me was and I hear this for you , there's a particular you that God wants to bless . There's a particular you God wants to release to . There's a particular you that he's been waiting on .
Speaker 2And the Lord says what you thought was a curse was actually a setup . And the Lord says what you thought was a curse was actually a setup . And the Lord says you will break forth and through this year , says God , because I will expand you , says the Lord . And the Lord says it will be almost what . I almost see what it looks like , bro . It almost looks like you drunk in the spirit .
Speaker 2I see what the Lord will overtake you in certain ways , because it's almost like a part of you . What you have walked through has positioned you in a place to say I'm thirsty , yes , lord , I'm thirsty , I'm thirsty , and part of that breaking forth will be a break in . And the Lord said there will be an overflow that comes to the inside of you . There will be an overflow that comes to you with a satisfying of me . And the Lord says let me satisfy you . Yes , lord , I see where your taste and even your desire for him will come in greater measures and capacity , and that in that lies the joy that you've been petitioning . I said well , the Lord wants to bring joy to your heart , where there wants to be laughter to your heart , where it wants to be literally happiness . He wants to give you that . That's why the Lord said I want to give you joy , I want to refresh it . There was a season I almost see laughter , I almost hear laughter and see smiling . And the Lord said I want to restore that of you . So , full restoration in the thing , full restoration in the thing . And the Lord says I make all things new . I make all things new .
Speaker 2So , god , I thank you , lord , for this podcast . God , I thank you , lord , for what you're going to do , and my brother and I thank you , lord , for each and every hearer that will be blessed to be a part of what you're going to do through the voices , through the ministry , through the hearts and the minds of your people . That will be a part of this , god . I thank you , oh God , father God , for Clifton . I thank you , oh God , for what you'll do in him and for his family on this year , and even for the family that will be groomed and is to come . In the name of Jesus , I thank you , god , that you remembered him . I thank you , god , that you kept him , father God , before you as he stayed before the altar as best he could in seasons past . I thank you , lord , that his labor has not been in vain and , father , that even the things that was built in the past that he seemed like he may even drop or put aside , god , I thank you , oh God , that that infrastructure is going to be built strong . In Jesus' name . I thank you , oh God , for a firm foundation . Oh God , I thank you , oh God for how you put this on his heart . And I had the Lord say this is on your heart because I'm doing this in you .
Speaker 2I had the Lord say that infrastructure , that moving around , that foundation , the reason why you want to talk about it is because I'm doing it in you . And the Lord says I'm moving around , I see what looks like furniture , I see that and what I take that to mean is that there's going to be faith increasing and moving in muscle . I see where the four sometimes it was like this is safe . I see where you're a reasonable man . The Lord says this is my reasonable son , that you're rational , that you're reasonable , that you look through certain things You'd be like , okay , god , I'm going to be responsible . But the Lord says , says there's new muscles in you .
Speaker 2This year there's going to be a faith increase and an overflow that's coming to you . So I just declare over this podcast , I just declare over the host an overflow , an overflow , an overflow and an abundance , as this capacity has made a choice to be widened . Father God , feel him that he overflows , that he will not be drained , that he will not get from a place that he does not have and that there will be joy in the journey in the name of Jesus , as he stays before you and keeps this on the altar . I pray , in the name of Jesus , that this podcast stays on the altar and it stays burning , it stays impactful , it stays national , that is national in the name of Jesus , that it impacts every region , that it goes to every border , that it hits the sore in the place of people that it needs to get to in the name of Jesus , and that their ears will be open to receive .
Speaker 2I thank you , lord , for this influence , this kingdom voice , oh God , who you've groomed and who you've set aside for such a time as this . I thank you , lord , for his new marching orders . I thank you , lord , for the team that he needs . I thank you , lord , for the support that he needs . I thank you for the intercessors that's praying for him In the name of Jesus . I'll be one that prays for the covering of him and the undergirding of him , in the name of Jesus , with those that you would send to him in this time , oh God , as he does the rebuild with a strong foundation in the infrastructure , and I thank you , oh God . That purpose would literally chase him down and run him over , just like the blessings of the lord hallelujah , in the mighty and matchless name of jesus christ wow , amen , amen , amen .
Speaker 1Oh , I am full , um , thank you . Thank you for that . Uh , everything you said , I was seeing glimpse of it in the spirit . I'm just being honest with you . I know that they're on the way . I know God is creating something through this and it's going to be powerful and it's going to be impactful , and you know that just gave me new breath in my mind and new strength in my lungs to be able to continue on and to proceed in everything that God has designed and purposed for me .
Speaker 1With that said , sis , I appreciate you so much . Give it up . Give it up for my sis . Oh my God . She did a phenomenal job . You left no stone unturned today . You spoke from your heart , you were transparent , you gave it all and I appreciate you . I honor you , woman of God . I honor you , sis . I honor you so much for being a part of this journey with me . When I was setting this up , I setting up different people that I wanted to come on . I mean , I'm literally . God is ordaining the people that I'm having on for a particular reason , a purpose , not only for my life , but I believe it's also for the life of the listener . So I honor you for this . Thank you so much . Thank you so much .
Speaker 2Love you , brother . Thank you so much for having me .
Speaker 1Love you too . If you want to subscribe to the podcast , go ahead and subscribe . We're going to be on YouTube , apple Podcasts , everything of that nature . Also , patreon is going to be up as well , so you can be able to Become a part of that , become a part of my community as well , and leave a review , five-star review . Please leave a review for the podcast , and then we are going to cut out . Love you , sis , the love of Christ , and I look forward to speaking to you soon . I'm definitely intrigued about everything that you're doing and what God is doing in your life , but we definitely will talk soon . All right , love you , love you , Peace .
