Heelan enrollment with Laurie Daugherty and Dr. John Flanery

Tony Michaels interviews Heelan Enrollment Director Laurie Daugherty and Heelan President Dr. John Flanery about the upcoming deadline for enrollment for new Catholic families.

Faith in Action is sponsored by Mary's Choice.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Faith in Action here on Two Lane Catholic Radio 88.1 FM. It's a special edition of Faith in Action today brought to you by Mary Choice, your Two City Pregnancy Resource Center and Two City. We're so thankful for the sponsorship of Faith in Action. Joanne Fox is our normal host of this program. She'll come back with new episodes coming up about a month from now, and some other special edition Faith in Action episodes will be upcoming on Two Lane Catholic Radio. Right now, it's our distinct honor to welcome in with us on the phone line the president of uh Bishop Healan Catholic Schools, Dr. John Flannery, and enrollment director for Healen, Lori Doherty, joining us on the phone this morning. Hello and welcome to Faith in Action.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Hello, Tony. How are you doing? Thank you for having us.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Absolutely fantastic. And it's nice I can get the uh dynamic duo here on the phone for Faith in Action. This is a very important time of year as uh parents consider the investment of Catholic education. And it's so vital to lifelong learning and making that uh spiritual journey throughout the course of our life. And uh we have uh some pretty big deadlines as we're what about two and a half uh weeks away from the deadline? Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Correct, Tony. This period right now, until April 15th, we're asking uh uh all new Catholic families who are interested in our school system to consider our schools and to apply to our schools. Um they we have a specific window just for Catholic families right now because we would love to attract more to our uh system.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

And uh, Dr. John, uh it's been so nice uh saying uh some of your work and some of the workshops with teachers that we're there and we're able to attend the kickoff event to start this uh past school year and uh talk a little bit about uh the faculty that are involved in uh Catholic schools here in Sioux Lynn.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yeah, thanks for having us again, Tony. Our our faculty and staff, they are just phenomenal. They really go above and beyond every day. And we know our public schools have great teachers too. Um, so we're not we're not uh we just we just are so proud of the work though that goes on every day inside of our buildings. I just left one of our buildings um earlier this morning, and uh it's just it's amazing the commitment that our teachers have and the work they do with our students and the individual attention they provide to all of our students. And and that's why we're here today is because we want to know you know if there are other Catholic families out there who have considered a Catholic education for their children and and maybe haven't uh had the right opportunity. Maybe they felt like they couldn't afford it, maybe they felt like it just wasn't the right time in their families' um progression. But but we think there's just so many great things going on in our school right now. We want to make sure that everybody's aware of them.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

And if you look at the enrollment base, uh obviously your students come from all different backgrounds, also uh different economic classes, uh, but uh there is that foundation of that Catholic education. And uh you want to be uh welcome to all, but uh I'm sure there's lots of questions that uh comes with enrolling in Catholic schools, and and how do you answer those that come to you maybe that uh have never enrolled before or maybe consider to kind of kicking the tires and decide to finally take the the leap?

SPEAKER_00 3:16

That's true, Tony. We have a lot of families, they're a little apprehensive. It's um it's a big deal to move schools to pick up, leave your friends, and go to some place that you're not familiar with, but we do offer shadow days, and um those are days when kids can come, no commitment, no judgment, come for a day, see what we're like, spend a day with us, and get to see what our classroom culture is like and the environment and um what it means to go to a Catholic school. So we offer that to anyone who's interested and work with families for days that work for their schedule, and we'd be happy to do that. And we continue to do that. We'll actually, I think I had 40 kids last week, and I'm gonna have probably another 38 this week that are doing that in our schools throughout the city at any level at any building.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

That's very cool. Uh, we had uh kind of a front row seat to uh especially the Catholic education uh when it comes to the art educators, got a chance to meet a lot of the art teachers in the uh Bishop Heel and Catholic school system. And uh, they worked on uh our jury youth art festival that we had at St. Boniface, and we had 408 submissions, many from uh right here in the uh city Bishop Heel schools. And it's amazing how uh these uh students could express their faith in an art class, and uh it was so much uh that was uh coming in, and it was so interesting to see the cognitive thought and the thought about the spirit spiritual journey that these uh students are on, you know, from uh kindergarten all the way up through uh seniors at Bishop Healen. And that was uh something that uh you you can obviously get at Healen that uh was just a little snapshot and uh the whole experience of uh being a student.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Yeah, I think even though Lori's the art teacher, I'm gonna jump in on this one, Tony.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

I never saw it, Tony, and it was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

One of the things one of the things that we in our schools try to do, and it can be hard, uh, but one of the things we try to do is a Catholic education is not just about praying first thing in the morning, praying at the end of the school day, and going to mass once a week. It really is and about going to religion class. It really is about taking art class, taking music class, taking math class, taking science class, and figuring out how to infuse faith and the teachings of Jesus Christ into every subject. And I do think that's something that we focus on here in our schools. And and uh most of our teachers are really good at that. They understand that you know you you can't teach English without talking about um, you know, without talking about the part of uh religion that that has um influenced English as well and the great literary of our time and of the history as well. And so that's one of the hard things about Catholic education, uh, is to move it beyond just an occasional reference to the mission and an occasional reference to the faith, but really to infuse it into you know the entire day. And and I do believe at Bishop Feeling Catholic Schools, we do a great job of that.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

It's interesting because I was talking with a friend and we're talking about uh sports that you can get into, be it uh basketball, hockey, and uh the friend I was talking to is you know, encourage your kids to go into golf and tennis because those are lifelong sports you can play your entire life. If you have kind of an abstract perspective, having a Catholic education and your spiritual life is something that's with you from baptism all the way till your final breath, and the fact that that can be ingrained with your other classes, and it really sets you up for a uh a lifelong of uh hopefully starting a family and and raising um children in the faith as well. But you look at that kind of commitment, and it starts at an early age, and you can see that manifested in uh you know pre-kindergarten to kindergarten all throughout uh the school system here with Bishop Healing Catholic schools, but that starts with enrolling. You can't uh have that kind of exposure unless you enroll, aside from uh, you know, a C C D class. And and uh this is why the enrollment opportunity is so good and uh it's pressing with that uh deadline April 15th.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

Yeah, we like to, as you're talking, Tony, I was thinking about what we like to tell parents, we prepare for them for this life and the next. And that is an investment that cannot be overstated. It really isn't. So so you were right, we have this big, big push now where no one else can register except for new Catholic families to our system, and we're here to help every step of the way as well. Um, you would enroll online through our website. Um we use Infinite Campus as our school management software, which um a lot of families are already familiar with. She's very popular in the state of Iowa, and our SUSE school district use the same thing, so it's the same kind of application. And um, getting that ESA, that help from the state of Iowa, is done online as well. And as long as you're an Iowa resident, you're gonna have no problem. Um, it's tied to the Department of Revenue from the state of Iowa. So most families are approved almost instantaneously. So um it's a very easy process, very user-friendly, both of them.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

And uh with the ESA, have you seen uh uh enrollment increase over the last couple years or uh um what effect has that had on the Catholic schools?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yeah, it's really been a game changer for our school system. We have increased our enrollment uh in every year that it's been in existence, and it's also been very helpful for our current family who are paying taxes here in Iowa and to help them uh with their tuition bill as well. So it's been really good.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

And you know, Tony, I might jump back uh just for a brief second here. You talked about uh talking to some of the coaches and things like that. That's one of the things too that we've tried to change some of our focus. Uh with the priest shortage, not just in our diocese, but really around the world, we've gone to hiring campus ministers, and we're up to three full-time campus ministers this year. And one of the places that our campus ministers have uh you know really been making some inroads is time with our athletic programs. The campus minister will go to uh practices and and and and provide prayer and reflections and uh those kinds of things, um, helping the coaches lead some of those things, helping the students do those things. So it's it's not just investment in a Catholic education, it's not just about, again, it's not just even from eight to three o'clock, but we're really trying to make sure that we lay that foundation in basketball, in in football, in volleyball, in soccer, in track, in whatever it is, because we recognize that that uh you know there are there are lessons to be learned on the field and on the court just as much as in the classroom, and those lessons need to be taught through a Catholic uh and and a you know in a and a sacred lens as well. So that's been a focus of ours too.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

We've also had Campus Ministry get involved with our activities at the high school as well, where a student council is involved with them now, and there's service projects and um some of our other groups because we have a ton of different groups at the high school with different interests, special groups. There's there's a comic book club, there is an environmental club, there is a visual arts club, all kinds of kids with different passions that are starting up clubs, which we love, love, love to see, and they're also connecting with them.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

That's so great to hear you have all those interests that uh extend beyond athletics. I know I went to a pretty big uh Cat Catholic school in Omaha, Crate and Prep, and I was fortunate enough to be cut from four different sports. And so after being uh dealt that blow, uh some friends and I got together, we started the volleyball program there at uh Omaha Creighton Prep. And I was so happy that they were able to endorse that and and get behind it. And you learn so much through sports, and I know before we have uh the broadcast of Healing, we always have uh a pregame prayer from Father Travis Crady before the game starts. Uh we just had the retirement of uh coach Greg McDermott at Creighton University, and uh columnist for the World Herald, Tom Chattel, wrote about his top ten favorite moments. And for him, the number one moment was when Creighton lost in 2014 by 30 points in the March Madness game, and it was McDermott's speech after about how they're growing to be young men and he's so proud of their uh work on and off the court helping out uh charity organizations. And he said for him, that was his favorite McDermott moment, and that came after a huge loss. So when you you look at um, you know, I got cut from all those teams, but you learn a lot through those challenges and diversity that comes your way and uh how you kind of move on to the next stage in life. And that that's really important with a lot of uh activities, sports, comic books, and it's so nice that you can infuse that uh kind of leadership there at Healing.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah, it it is great, and we do encourage that. And we have kids that have wonderful passions about different things, and uh and we tell our kids as they come in if there's something, a club you want to start, a group you want to start, we'll find a faculty advisor to help you along, and we'd be happy to encourage that. And you're right, there's so many good things that come out of that. And I'm sure nine times nine times out of ten, there there's just as many kids that love it as well.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

So uh from a personal perspective, why did you both choose to work in the uh Bishop Healan school system? Obviously, you you had a lot of different uh choices when it comes to career. Why did you decide to make this impact at Bishop Healan?

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Well, uh Tony, I I am a proud Healing grad myself. It's gonna sound when I tell you all this, it's gonna sound a little bit like a cult.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

But um I graduated from Healand. I have seven brothers and sisters that went to Healand. I married a Healan grad who has seven sisters who went to Healand, and then we had seven children that went to Healand. You can see where it's getting weird, probably. But um I taught at Healand for 35 years. Um, it's helped shape who I am today. I love my teaching job over there, absolutely skipped to work and skipped home. Um, my children all had wonderful experiences, loved going to school every day, have made lifelong friends, and have become servant leaders in their own communities today because of that human education that they received. And so I'm just so grateful. And um now I um am in enrollment, so it gives me a chance to meet new families that I never get to meet and to be everywhere in our system. I'm at all of our elementary, the four elementary schools and the high school as well. So I've gotten to know much more about our system and what goes on every day and meet the fantastic faculty that we have. It's just been a delight. I still really skip to church or skip to skip to church, skip to my job here as well, still. Um, but I have a little bit more flexibility now because I do have grandchildren and I need a fix every once in a while. And so John allows me to do that. But uh that's been really, really uh fortunate for me.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Dr. Flannery, are you are you skipping to uh work as well or do you have a different mode of transportation?

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Um I run. I run to work. Um, so you know, Tony, I I am not a Bishop Healing grad, but um came to Sioux City to Briarcliffe uh for my undergraduate, and then I taught a year away from here, and then and then uh started teaching at Healen nearly 30 years ago in my first tour of duty here. And I had such a great experience for those eight years. And uh my wife and I and and family moved away, and we came back about nine years ago. And uh one of the main reasons we came back was for the Bishop Healan Catholic school. Certainly was to be closer to family as well, but um we just have always felt drawn to Bishop Healan and the special community that this is, the supporting community that this is, the um the impactful community that this is. And so um we have our kiddos in this school with uh one graduated, group graduated, and another one coming up this year. Um but we just we just love our Bishop Helen Catholic schools. And I, you know, a lot of people from the outside look in with kind of a uh I don't know if it's a disdain or just an unknown, but a lot of people then once they come inside the circle, they realize, oh, like now I get it, right? It's just there's an intangible there that I don't know that I can explain very well, but um, it's definitely a special place, and uh and that special place is made up of the people that are part of it. It's it's there's no magic. Put a bunch of good people together and and great things are gonna happen, and that's really where we are.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Right. I hear from families every day that sense of community that they've found at Bishop Helen that really has been impressive and and that's something they didn't realize they didn't have. And then once you have it, you're like, wow, yeah, this is this is really neat.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

You're listening to Faith in Action Special Edition here on Sioux Land Catholic Radio 88.1 FM. My name is Tony Michaels filling in for Joanne Fox, who will be coming back in about four or five weeks here back on the air with some new episodes of Faith in Action. We've been talking to a lot of individuals that have been impacted by the closing of St. Michael's and South Sioux City. Uh a lot of uh of those families are uh scrambling, looking for new enrollment. And uh Healing Catholic Schools might be a fantastic uh landing spot for them. Have you worked with any of those families in South Sioux? And what message can you give to them this morning on Faith and Action?

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah, Tony, we've spent a lot of time with the folks at St. Mike's South Sioux. It breaks our heart that they're closing that school down there. Lori and I have spent a lot of time down there over the last several years encouraging families when they when they get to high school to transfer over to our schools. Um, you know, as Lori uh always says, we feel like they're a feeder school to our schools, even though they're in another diocese. We're really only separated by the river. Um, and but the river does make a big difference when it comes to the connection on the outside, but on the inside, we we love the families and the students from St. Myself to the faculty and the staff again. We have been working with them for several years, and more recently this year, when the news was breaking about their changes down there. We've been down there a lot. We were just down there uh a few days ago helping families enroll. We're trying to make that transition as seamless as possible. We know that not every family is gonna want to cram across the river and be able to make that happen. And again, as Lori mentioned earlier, if they live in Iowa, it's a little easier because of the ESA, but um just very heartbroken uh for that wonderful and beautiful community there and what they're going through. So I know Lori feels the same way.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Yeah, yeah. Such wonderful, devoted families at St. Michael's. Um, they've been coming to our school for year decades, and they've just great kids. Uh then they've been a real great addition. We hope it continues. We hope they join our elementary schools as um as well now. And um we're giving them a priority. We want them in our building.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

And I'm sure a lot of uh questions come with that uh transition, and and you're there to answer those questions every step of the way. And what I found is that what I have a big uh life decision to make with uh me and my family, it always helps when uh you get a little more knowledge, you do some research, and then that the scary decision becomes a little less scary when you have some of those facts.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Absolutely, absolutely. We're very similar. Um a huge amount of our um shadow days have been these kids from St. Michael's as well. And the at the end of the day, they they tell me that they're uh nervous to come, but then they say to me, it's a lot like our school. They can feel it.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

And of course, uh great elementary uh programs at uh Sacred Heart, Modern Day, Holy Cross, and of course the Dual Language Academy, uh, which has just been uh a great uh uh addition uh to the fold. And uh you've seen great things in the dual language academy as well.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Yeah, yeah, the dual language program, you know, was really uh a dream of a previous principal over there. Um and we started it at a time that was probably a little dangerous to start because we really didn't have funds to start it, we really didn't have um a complete vision mapped out on what it was going to look like, but uh we took that leap of faith and uh you know a lot of people confuse the dual language program with, well, that's just where Hispanic families want to send their kids. Um, and the bottom line is um if you want your child to get ahead in this world, um, teaching them a second language is a huge step. And I don't know about you, Tony, but I took two years of Spanish in high school, I took one year of Japanese in high school, and I took one year of German in my doctoral program, and I remember nothing about all three languages, and that's because I was too old. Languages need to be infused starting at ages four and five and six. And so if you um are not of Hispanic descent and you want your child to have a step up on um uh other students and and and young students, teach them, teach them that second language young. And that's what our dual language program does Spanish and English starting at age four in the preschool, um, and age five going on up, and that's really um that's really just an advantage that that's hard to duplicate with any of our other programs.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Absolutely. And those numbers have been increasing and increasing at the dual language, and um they are doing very well. They're definitely that we're closing some classes in the in the preschool this year, is already closed.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Dr. Flannery, when I went off to the University of Nebraska, Lincoln, freshman year, I decided it'd be a good idea to take Spanish first class, 7:30 a.m. Monday through Friday. And that was enough uh uh to realize that I should have started this when I was in kindergarten.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah, yeah. That was that was like my German. My German and my doctoral program was five days a week at 8 a.m. And yeah, and I mean it's a struggle. It just is to learn languages later in life. Uh the the the younger brain is a sponge to that kind of stuff, and it's able to compute from one language to the other and and and connect the dots inside the brain as to where the word comes from and how it connects to the other language. And um, so our dual language full transparency. Um, some of our parents panic because the dual language program in kindergarten, first, second, and even third grade, students are behind reading level and behind academic. For the first couple years in that program, because that's the design, because they are taking on two languages at the same time. But then it's in third to fourth, and for sure by fifth grade, that those test scores and those numbers will start to change. A lot of our parents panic. Sure. They're like, My child, you know, they're behind at the reading level, they're behind the reading level. That's okay. It's because they're learning two languages. And it's like I said, somewhere between third and fifth grade, depending on the child, and depending on, you know, the work they do, not only at school and the capacity the student has, but also the work they do at home, that'll start to flip. And uh it'll it'll provide an amazing advantage for those kids for the rest of their life.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

I know my uh friends Sean and Steph are enrolled, uh their kids are enrolled in the dual language in Omaha, and uh they posted a video of the second grader reading in Spanish. And I was like, they already were way better than anything I did in college at second grade. So uh it's those foundations uh that uh like you said, the reading scores and in two different languages. What a great uh attribute here for the Catholic schools. That's a great option for those uh families that are looking at that uh enrollment deadline. So April 15th, now Lori, is that a is that a hard and fast deadline? Is there any wiggle room? Can I go the 16th or is it really the 15th?

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Absolutely, absolutely. Uh it's just that that is the time period that only new Catholic families can enroll. And then once April 16th, everyone can enroll, including additional Catholic families. We'll still take them, absolutely. We just have this protected uh window. Um, that's what that's about.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

See, that's right, your enrollment directors. Yeah, and you'd answer all those tough questions.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Not so tough, but yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Uh lots of people are listening to this message on uh faith and action here on Sioux Land Catholic Radio 88.1 FM. If you will uh just give us your elevator pitch, why this is a good idea to choose Catholic schools to start that foundation of spiritual growth. Uh Lori, you take it away first.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

My friend, um I think I would have given blood. I think I would have picked up Top Camps on I-29 to keep my literally, literally, to keep my kids in the Catholic schools because of the people they are today. As I said, I I'm so proud of who they are today. They're just wonderful people in their community. Um, and you can't do it alone. Um, you know, they're in school for seven, eight hours every day. That's a long period of time. Um, all kinds of influences. They've just made great lifelong friends. Um, they're still practicing Catholics today. I'm proud to say they've all been married in the church, five out of seven. So there's so many good blessings, so many blessings that came to our family because of that. Uh, even today, I got a text about an old neighbor that we had that moved away and um and is and has had a tough diagnosis. And my kids are saying in our family thread um that we need to pray for this guy. And they learned to pray for people originally in our school, in the Bishop Healing Catholic school. And they're still doing that today at 27 and 28 and 32 and 34 and 37 and 35. So I I'm so proud that they're still thinking like that. Um, that is uh such a beautiful, beautiful part of their lives that they continue to um grow in their faith. And I I I glory to God, it it wasn't just me and my husband. We did our part and we worked hard, but it takes more than that, right? We all know that. And so um, we all need all the help that we can get. So I would encourage any family based on my experience, based on the kids I had in class, the best people I've ever met in my life have been healing high students when I was teaching there. I met so many wonderful kids, and uh it continues to happen today in all of our buildings, and uh I wouldn't put a price on that. It's uh it's absolutely precious, Tony.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Dr. Fradry, what's your elevator pitch?

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Yeah, I mean my elevator pitch is in this world, Lori Lori hinted at it to a certain extent. It's it's hard to raise kids. There's so many distractions, there's so many um, there's so many evils in this world, cell phones and social media and the internet and and all the things that come along with it. And uh we can see in our society a decay of accountability, responsibility, and standards. And while our students are far from perfect, including my own children in the buildings, you know, we still believe that that students need to be high held to a level of accountability, a standard, a sense of responsibility in anything and everything that they do. And and we're not gonna let students just um do what they want to do when they want to do it. And um, so it is a partnership, and that's something that I think is important for families to know. If you're considering sending your kids to Bishop Even Catholic schools, know that it's a partnership with us. Uh, we're not just gonna do the work, and you're not just gonna do the work. We're we're in it together because uh, you know, absent parents don't help us, and an absent school doesn't help the parent. So it is a true partnership between parents and school for for raising a kid, uh especially when they're here seven or eight hours a day. And like our show choir kids and our our football kids and all these kids that are here, not just eight hours a day, but these kids that are here, you know, some of them 10, 12, 14 hours a day. They are definitely spending more time with our teachers and our staff than they are with their families. And uh, we just are looking for families that are interested in that partnership.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

So And you can learn a lot about what you decide to invest in uh your time, your energy, your talent, your finances. Uh, you know, uh I know thinking back to my mom and dad and the great sacrifices they made and working second jobs to afford Catholic education. And it was uh the gift that they wanted to give to their children. And uh now as a grizzled old man, I'm very appreciative of those uh you know contributions and those sacrifices that were made. So uh definitely worth the uh investment and uh money and time into the Catholic schools. Uh Lori, if you will, uh where can we get uh some more information about uh Bishop Healand Catholic schools and how to get started? Uh what's a good uh portal to go to to get started?

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Oh please go to our website, bishophealand.org. All kinds of information is all over it.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And uh however, Tony, um because because the window is such that it's only for new Catholic families, in order to truly register, they've got to call the office and talk to Lori. Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

I'll give them a link. Yeah. Just call it off to everyone else.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

252-1350, 252-1350, call and ask for Lori. Um, because that's but to find more information, yes, on the website. But if they really want to take a serious step, they gotta call and ask for Lori.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Right. I'm the only Lori here.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

So uh number one skin, two five two-1350. There at Healing to get that process started. Talk to Lori. Uh as you can tell over the last half hour, she's delightful. She'll answer your questions.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

And so the conversation I didn't know you were a great breath for that, yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yes, very like you.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

I would say it's uh just like Healing, but only we didn't have any girls. But it is that that's why it is.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

I have nephews that went there. It's a great school.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Phone number call 252-1350. That's 252-1350. Well, Dr. Flannery and uh Larry Doherty, thank you so much for your time uh here on Faith and Action. And uh it's always a pleasure. And uh just from uh a sports perspective, it's been so fun covering all the Healing sports, football, basketball, baseball, and uh great uh young individuals that uh you kind of get that that sparkle in the eye, and you know they're gonna do great things in life. And it starts with that Catholic education provided by Bishop Healing Catholic Schools. So uh Dr. John and Lori, thank you so much for your time and keep up the great work.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Thank you, John. God bless Catholic Radio as well.