Ep. 104 Energy Healing with Ellie Pechet: From Grief to Wellness

In this enlightening episode, seasoned metaphysician and energy healer Ellie Pechet shares her transformative approach to healing both emotional and physical pain. With over 33 years of experience, Ellie developed the Pechet Healing Technique—an integrative method that helps clients quickly resolve deep-rooted issues such as grief, PTSD, depression, and chronic pain.

Ellie explains how unprocessed emotional trauma can manifest as serious physical illness, including cancer, and highlights the importance of clearing core emotional wounds to support lasting healing. Through inspiring client success stories, she reveals how profound breakthroughs can often occur in just one session.

This is a must-listen for anyone ready to release emotional pain, reclaim their well-being, and embrace true energetic wellness.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome.
• 0:57 Introduction to Ellie Pichette and Her Healing Techniques.
• 5:51 Ellie's Healing Journey and Techniques.
• 7:58 Case Studies and Miracle Healings.
• 11:53 The Role of Emotional Issues in Physical Conditions.
• 32:35 Healing Resistance and the Importance of Self-Awareness.
• 35:45 The Impact of Grief and Emotional Healing.
• 54:27 Depression and Its Roots.
• 1:00:11 Final Thoughts and Encouragement.
• 1:01:41 Closing.

Transcript

Vonne Solis  0:00  
This is the Grief Talk podcast with Vonne Solis, helping you heal after loss and life's hardest hits. My guest today is Ellie Pechet. A metaphysician, medium, shaman and author with a master's degree in counselling from Cambridge College. Starting out as a traditional talk therapy counsellor, once Ellie began incorporating the healing modalities of Reiki, EMF and the Yuen Method of Healing early in her career, Ellie shifted her practice into a heightened intuitive counselling practice and developed the Pechet Healing Technique. Now with over 33 years experience, Ellie helps clients shift their energy to dissolve emotional and physical issues, including grief, PTSD, depression, anxiety and chronic pain, so that they can find freedom from their pain and live their best life. Ellie is also the author of Hitching a Ride, a Guide to Earth Bound Spirits and how they affect you. 

Vonne Solis  0:57  
So welcome audience. Today, we are speaking with Ellie Pechet, and as you know from the introduction to Ellie, Ellie is a metaphysician. She is a shaman, she is a medium, she is an author. We are going to be talking about how Ellie does pull grief and other types of toxic energy - I'll just use the word toxic energy from her clients. Deals with all sorts of issues as an energy healer. I'm assuming that's as a shaman as well, Ellie, but you're gonna you're gonna fill me in on the way as we go. And all in the you know, vein of helping you become free from toxic emotions, energy and on your way to the life you really want to live, which I am absolutely all about. And so Ellie, thank you for being here.

Ellie Pechet  1:54  
Thank you for having me on. It's really nice to finally meet you.

Vonne Solis  1:58  
Yes. Ellie and I are quite connected on a number of different levels, and in terms of some things we love to do in in our spare time. Living by the ocean water, things like that, both as energy healers and angels. So it's great to meet you, Ellie, and introduce you to my audience on my podcast. Very cool. 

Vonne Solis  2:19  
So we're going to be getting audience today, Ellie, you mentioned that you do have a specialty in working with grief, and today we're going to be talking about how you can help the bereaved really well as you say, you dissolve grief. You dissolve depression. You dissolve all sorts of energy, cognitive, pain, you know, physical, mental, emotional, that type of thing. So this is going to be a very interesting, you know, conversation for those of you who either already do believe in this type of healing, and those of you who are curious. You're going to get to learn all about that today from Ellie explaining her unique technique that she developed. The Ellie Pechet Technique. And we're going to learn all about that right right away here Ellie, because I'm quite curious about how it actually works. 

Vonne Solis  3:17  
And the other thing I just really wanted to say is that you coming from a traditional counselling background. I explained in your introduction that you did start out in traditional talk therapy, yes? And then as your gifts developed with these three modalities of Reiki, EMF and the Yuen healing method, you incorporated that, and I gather, found that you could offer so much more to people, and that led you to develop your own unique training or healing technique that you now share globally with others around the world. So let's dive in, and you tell us exactly what you want to say about that. If you want to say how it started. Anything, you want to emphasize what's different in in just from your perspective, your experience, just the traditional therapy versus what happens when you started to incorporate these other modalities in.

Ellie Pechet  4:20  
So talk therapy is, is really good to a certain extent. And I was in my early 20s when I, you know, when I was in the counselling. The mainstream counselling field, and I remember one day saying to myself, you know, it's really good to be able to hold the space for clients to talk about, you know, what's most on their mind, and maybe do some problem solving and but it's basically, you know, holding the space, which is pretty limiting. And I'm all about getting results. And getting efficient results for folks so that they're not caught in the loop of, you know, years of counselling, discussing the same things over and over again, because their their lives are moving on. And so it's not like I went from you know, counseling one day to where I'm at now, it's been a process. It has, my abilities and my technique have really built up and gained momentum over the years, and it's about 34 years that I've been honing my skills and abilities, and now I'm really at the top of my, you know, my the top of my game, so to speak, for lack of a better word. 

Ellie Pechet  5:51  
So my technique is a combination of, you know, the counselling background that I have is helpful in helping me, you know, more quickly, recognize issues that people are having and and diagnoses and and then I take it much further. And I'll tune in. And I'm highly intuitive, so that's a big part of my success, is that I'll link up to a much higher level when I'm meeting with the client. And at one point, you know, we'll be dialoguing like the first 15 minutes of their session, and then as as we're talking, I'm actually listening on a higher level for what the most important issue is to clear that session for them. And I'll, at one point, I'll just hear it. I'll hear the actual sentence, and then I'll muscle test it, and it's always accurate. You know, I just want to make sure I've got the most important issue to heal for them that session. And and then I'll, you know, I'll, I'll ask the client what number it feels like on a pain scale of zero to 10. And if it's an emotional issue, then it would be the level of charge. If it's a physical issue or condition that I'm helping them with, it'll be physical pain. You know, the scale as far as their physical pain, and then, you know, I balance them as the next step. I raise their vital life force. And then I start. I have a really unique ability to, when I say clear, I'm able to actually dissolve the issue that has been intuited, and so it doesn't, I don't absorb it. It's not hanging out out there. I literally dissolve it. So whether it's a virus, like it's all, it's all highly intuitive. 

Ellie Pechet  7:58  
I healed a nurse who was dying and giving her husband written instructions for when she passed. And her sister, who was my main client, called me on a Sunday and asked if I could work with her sister, and if I thought I could help her. And I said, Yes. I knew that it if I didn't do this, I knew that I that that my client would be going to her funeral. Now, the audience is probably wondering, Well, how could you help her if she was in the hospital, right, and she's on the breathing machine and giving her husband, her, her her last instructions? Well, I work with a lot of of clients' relatives. Whether it's their children, a parent, in this case, a sister-in-law and I, all I really need, excuse me, is a picture. The picture of of the person that needs the help and the main symptoms. And then I work using the picture. So when I did the double session with her sister-in -aw, when she had X rays taken earlier that day, of her lungs, her lungs were full of of gray matter. And after I did the double session with her, the next morning, she got up and they took the X-rays again, and they were completely clear and she was released from the hospital, good to go. She was fine. 

Vonne Solis  9:33  
So, just for the audience, you know you can you can read more testimonials from your clients, Ellie on your website, phoenixrisinghealing.com and I did take a look at some of those testimonials. I want to ask you a couple things. One does that sort of, what people would consider miracle healing? They would really. Most people would consider that's a miracle. Can you explain a little bit about that? Like, why some people are gifted to be able to do these types of healing, yourself, included on others? Where does that come from?

Ellie Pechet  10:10  
I would say that the healings that I do for my clients are miracle healings. And in fact, on my brochure of many years now, the at the top it says, expect a miracle, and that's what I do for my clients. So in answer to your question about healing and ability, you know, everyone comes in with different abilities and different gifts. And I didn't go looking for this. I came in, I had a an intention to fulfill my mission while I'm here, this this time around. And I've been a healer in many past lifetimes, and so I've I've honed and honed those those skills over lifetimes and in this life again for the last few decades, plus 30, I'd say 34 years now, I've been once again, honing my abilities and making my work as efficient and effective as possible, and I have highly developed intuitive skills and highly developed energetic healing skills. So I can, when I work with my clients, I literally send the energy with my hand. I set the intention. I send the energy with my hand, and I have my whole technique. It's which is a process that I go through, and the energy goes in like a laser. 

Ellie Pechet  11:53  
A big part of why my technique is is as successful as it is, is because a lot of issues, most issues get stuck in the in the neural pathways, which is, which are in the brain. And so, like a old fashioned record, which, apparently, they've they they're coming back. You know, if there's a little nick in the record then, then the needle gets stuck, and it just keeps going around and around. And it's no different. You know, when you think about our neural pathways, that's where traumas and depression, abandonment, loss, grief get stuck is in the neural pathways, and it's I'm able to literally dissolve the issue in the neural pathway, and then I also, and then I continue and and dissolve it in the rest of the energy field, the seven main chakras. And that's why it only takes one session per core emotional issue is because, well, actually, I clear it in this life, and then I clear it in any past lifetime. So I, I, I literally dissolve the pattern that most people, most issues that, that people come in with, have been experienced in past lifetimes. So I clear it in this life and then any past lifetimes, and that's why I'm able to do something really big every session. 

Ellie Pechet  13:40  
So whether it's an issue with a like a chronic issue with a sibling or a parent or a child, my favorite thing to do is is bring my clients to peace about that which has been troubling them. Because, as we both know life is short, and I really want to get people to their you know their purpose for being here, and so they might already know what their purpose is. Some do, some don't, but my by clearing the issues, they're able to step more fully into it, free and unencumbered. And that's that's what I love doing, is helping people really just get closer to what it is that they came here to do and live a life that's filled with joy and peace and and and relaxation and the ability to open their their hearts, to give and receive love. And, you know, I'm here to help. I'm here to help, and that's, that's what I do.

Vonne Solis  14:56  
I wanted to just jump in. So I think, from my perspective. I think, for those of us yearning to know why we're here, and then throw in pain, which I think everybody experiences, quite frankly, at some point in their life. But you know, really difficult loss. I think having, you know, this ability to tie lives together, and purpose from those lives is very helpful to healing. I just went through that several months ago. And so in my own journey, even though I've had my own work with angels, and once I was able to have someone who didn't know me and is very gifted in the work that she does, put it together. Why I'm here. It changed everything for me. But I also think we need to be ready to receive. Sometimes, it's the information, and know what to do with it. I was ready. And as I said to you before we began recording Ellie. I'm 20 years on July 26th as a bereaved mom, and I'm of the pretty firm belief that any really difficult pain can destroy us and keep us destroyed unless we do something about it. So my question to you is, do you, do you believe that people need to in order to reach out for help, for healing, that that you know that they need to take - something is driving them to take that first step to want to be healed? Or, I mean, in other words, I think I'm asking, can healing be done for people who are resistant to it? Or has have you ever encountered that?

Ellie Pechet  16:51  
Well, let me ponder that for a moment.

Vonne Solis  16:53  
So that might be in a, in a in a situation, for example, where a relative or a spouse or friend or somebody really wanted healing for a loved one, but they really aren't receptive to it. Have you ever had that kind of a request? So I mean, do you always have do you have to have the permission of the person you're healing to receive the healing?

Ellie Pechet  17:19  
Well, that is a good question. I, the way that I, I navigate that Vonne is I asked the higher self for permission, and the higher self always wants what's best for the person, right?

Vonne Solis  17:36  
I do agree.

Ellie Pechet  17:37  
And a lot of times, you know, I just started working with a couple recently, and she's really on board. She's very, you know, familiar with metaphysics and energy work and and, and very spiritual. And her boyfriend is, you know, she has to kind of pull, pull him along. He doesn't understand, you know, the metaphysical world, and yet he's in a lot of pain. And, you know, I did his first session last week, and part of the confusion with him was that he has, well, he had a lot of negative entities, and that's where the, you know, the shaman branch of the work I do, comes in. So if a person and they're they're pretty common. I'd say a lot, or most people have one or more negative energies that are influencing them, whether they're aware of it or not. And so that's always the first thing that needs to be done, otherwise the the negative energies or entities will sabotage the work that I try to do with the person. So again, I'm always doing what is going to make my work as efficient as possible. So I might remove the entities in the first session, and then I'll re-check that the second session again, if it's someone who's resistant or doesn't understand or say it's a child who doesn't have the attention span. I'm working with their picture, and if they had entities in their first session, I'll check and make sure that they haven't picked up anything new.That there aren't any entities and when they're clear, you know, then I can start clearing the traumas or the grief or the depression. Someone reached out to me today, who's 11 year old, is being bullied and thinking about, you know, committing suicide. So I'm really eager to to work with, you know, with with her and her daughter, and get her daughter past that. You know, definitely past that. So, and I'll do it.

Vonne Solis  20:06  
So basically, do you think that - well, I want to, I want to turn to energy for just a little bit, because I know there's a lot of people or in my world. You live in your world. I'm in my world. And a lot of the work I used to do, I spent 10 years working as an angel healing practitioner, doing channelling. Yeah, doing channellings. And I gave it up in 2015 and for various reasons. But, you know, once you channel, you can channel. You know, and work with all those entities. And so the Divine. And as an aside, well, I do have the mediumship ability, I don't care for working in that. The energy is too low for me, so I don't like it. Like just for me. And the other reason I didn't, I did study a little bit under James Van Praagh, and you're put to work, and you just do it. And so it turned out I was pretty good. But for me, and also, I felt that my bereavement had put me in such a state of vulnerability, I didn't want to open myself up to naughty little beings. You know, should they come and harass me, which a couple times that happened. And so I stuck with the angelic realm, and I've worked with them every day ever since. So I just love that. I get what you're saying. And you know, I know that so. 

Vonne Solis  21:31  
But my point is I think there are a lot of people that want to be as you said, you know, what is it? Your your statement was healing leads to freedom. And I think that you say, state that, and your website, part of your materials. And I believe, I believe that, as well. Healing leads us to such great freedom, and it leads us to live the magnificent lives we want to live, even if that is very calm and quiet and, you know, unassuming and all of the rest of it. We don't have to be these grand people. Folks, listen to me. We're so ingrained that, you know, creating a magical life, the life you really want, in many ways, is represented by physical wealth and manifestations. It is not. For me, it is all about how peaceful and balanced and genuine we can feel within and with ourselves, and that just changes the picture. So you can live any way you want and be blessed with a blissful life if what you're doing brings you great passion. 

Vonne Solis  22:37  
My new thing is I have to be excited by what I do, everything throughout my with everything throughout my day. Which might sound like a lot, but hey, if I'm excited to have that cup of tea, you know? That's getting the senses going. So that is what currently drives me as I go through yet another transformation in my life. It used to be what would bring me joy. Right now it's what brings me - well joy and excitement kind of go together, but it's, it's thinking, it's being very present. And and so Ellie, I would think that you would agree that when, well, I'm going to ask you. So you I'm going to, I'm going to go, and I'm going to trust you can create miracle healings. And then probably more, I don't know what to say, how to say this, but you know, perhaps other healings that take a little bit of time, right? So if I, if I read on your in your materials correctly, some things take a little longer than one session to be perfectly healed, right? Do you want to speak to that a bit?

Ellie Pechet  23:47  
Yeah, well, that's true for physical symptoms and conditions, because usually physical conditions are, you know, kind of the result of, well, they'll start out emotional, right? So, for example, if, if someone has experienced heartache, you know, through grief or or some other type of of loss with one or more people, then it's going to have an effect on the heart. And the effect starts out energetically, and then if it, if it isn't healed, or really, you know, dealt with, that energy will become, it'll manifest physically as a heart condition.

Vonne Solis  24:40  
 Right? 

Ellie Pechet  24:41  
And so, you know, I work with that quite a bit. And another example is cancer doesn't just sort of happen out of thin air. Cancer is often in my many years of experience, it's often the result of deeply held resentments toward one or more people. Often, you know, one parent. Sometimes both parents, and you know it's it's an anger and resentment that are not expressed. That are held within that cause the cells to become cancer cells and eventually take over. So when I work with someone with cancer, that that's always where I start is the emotional issues that that I Intuit led to the development and the manifestation of cancer. And as I'm working with clients that that are dealing with cancer, as I'm clearing the emotional issues that are connected to it, the cancer starts to actually really slow down and eventually back up, like it goes into regression. And I've done this a number of times, so I would say that's pretty miraculous. For so many people they hear the word cancer and they and it feels like and it can be a death sentence, but it doesn't have to be.

Vonne Solis  26:10  
And there are a lot of younger people. I don't know what's happening in the States, but in Canada, they've actually got it, where younger people are developing and when I say younger, we're talking mostly 40s, 50s, but it could be younger, in the 30s. And and even younger, but to the point it's almost surpassing. I don't want to say this for sure, but certainly equal - that where they to the older generation, so where they've prepared, and they have all of these, you know, tests and the ability to treat cancer that they expect in an older population, for the younger generation, it's taking the medical community off guard, and boom. And they're so in some cases, the cancer is being developed at late stages. And so here's a question. Do you think that a person being diagnosed with anything or even loss, because we're going to turn to that, that they have to have the will and the desire at even a very innate and sometimes subconscious level to want to be cured? Healed, and nothing coming back. I mean, so cured.

Ellie Pechet  27:24  
Yes, in and, you know, I think it really helps if they want to go a little deeper, or maybe a lot deeper, and explore, how did this develop? What happened? You know, who is it that I'm I'm feeling really upset with and resentful about? And those types of questions are very helpful in, you know, just doing self-exploration. And you know, when I start working with a client, I have several forms that I email them and they fill out and send back to me. And one of the forms is the counselling form, which is, you know, emotional issues that they've experienced, like grief or trauma or depression. And it's, it's when they fill these forms out, it's very helpful in in making the work my work with them more efficient, because then I start tuning into, you know, is it this issue? Is it that issue? Is it resentment toward the mother or the father? 

Ellie Pechet  28:27  
Now, I do want to there is a caveat when it comes to cancer. It depends what stage it's at, when they, when they, when I start working with them. If it's really advanced, and if it's metastasized, then I can help them come to peace, you know, with with their life. But I'm not necessarily, if it's, if it's beyond a certain point, I'm not, I'm not necessarily able to heal that, but I can help them come to peace. But cancer, you know, when someone gets a diagnosis of cancer, you know, there's a window for them to really get the help that I can give if they want to heal it. And it cancer doesn't wait. It keeps marching on. So, if, you know, if, if someone has cancer, the best thing is to, you know, reach out and and kind of nip it in the bud. And, you know, I'm happy to do that.

Vonne Solis  29:36  
Yeah. I'm careful with, with, you know what, what I talk about to any length of degree on a recorded episode, because there's many, many restrictions now that you can't talk about this and can't talk about that on YouTube and stuff like that. So I don't quite know what all the conditions are. So I'm always when I frame things, I talk a little bit, I try, you know, to talk a little bit about things more in general. But having said that, I see all disease in my my mind, almost like just being balls of just wrapped up tangles and tangles of toxic, toxic energy. You want to speak to what it really, what disease really maybe looks like in your mind? What you see? Is it sort of universal across the board? Do some diseases have different types of energy? But ultimately, and in answer to this is it toxic energy? So does all disease come and illness come from some kind of toxic energy within our bodies?

Ellie Pechet  30:40  
I would say that it ends up the energy becomes toxic. But I think of it more in terms of, you know, unresolved issues, either from a current situation or a past situation or or a number of of past issues that are just, you know, building up in the body and in the energy field, and eventually the body says, I can't do this anymore. You know, it's challenging enough just to, you know, stay healthy and and that's why it's that's why I always start with clearing the emotional issues because they drain, they drain the person emotionally and physically, and eventually it will catch up to them, or it often catches up to them. It's just what happens.

Vonne Solis  31:32  
Yeah, so I think, I think what I'm trying to get at is for the person who this might be just all new to them, and they don't even think of themselves as an energetic being. Hence you'll have millions of people who get sick and are dealing strictly with the physical. And basically, if I hear you right, you're saying essentially, deal with the emotional, deal with the energy part of it, and then the physical will respond to that in many ways. Now it's not saying audience that you don't need medical treatment and see your doctor and all of that, but it's almost like working in tandem. So if you are very intuit and aligned with your inner self, don't you think this can go a long way to preserving a healthy body, and getting yourself back to health when we may slip up and, you know, we'll get stuff that nuisance illnesses like I get. But as much as I want to throw this in, so try not to lose that train of thought, and I'll try not to. 

Vonne Solis  32:35  
For many years, I wanted the doctors to tell me I had a bad heart. Yes, my bereavement had destroyed my physical body, but it didn't. I'm as healthy as you can be and so despite the little nuisance illnesses like I get. They're for me to stop, slow down, rebalance, rethink. You know, all of that, and I know that. But it was interesting, and especially in my early years, I'd say the first 10 maybe, you know, seven to 10? I really wanted them to find that grief was so bad, look, it's destroying me. But they just never found anything. Ever, ever with with symptoms I had. Stress. They were stress symptoms and stuff, but they couldn't even really diagnose it as that. But I was always very in tune, because ironically, I just have, I happened to start working with the angels nine months before my daughter died. So by the time she did die, which was she took her own life, well the angels protected me. It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that, and they've been on that path with me for 20 years. 

Vonne Solis  33:57  
But understanding that a lot of people are probably, from my experience, right? Aren't really in tune with their bodies that much. Not, not really in tune with themselves as an energy field. Although I think this is growing, and I think the younger generations are smarter than maybe I was in my younger years, even though I started this back in the 80s, right? I think that the newer, the younger generations are much more in tune with themselves as energetic beings and a spiritual practice, and hopefully it's growing, and they seem pretty darn smart. And I have, yes, a millennial son. So I just know I'm around millennials. Hmm, you guys have it together, you know, like pretty fast. Anyway, what's your take on that? Do you think that more people, like that you have to, no not, not have to. That it is a benefit to be, you know, sort of in tune with yourself as an energetic being to keep yourself healthy or healed from something?

Ellie Pechet  35:02  
Absolutely. I mean, I mean, the more self-awareness we have, the more we can stay on top of things that come up, challenges that come up. And, you know, you mentioned about wanting, at one point, wanting the doctors to say that, you know, that there was a that you had developed a heart condition, and I'm just wondering, you know, were you wanting them to validate how much pain you had been in? And I'm also wondering if there was maybe some some guilt there. That that you wanted them to validate your suffering for all that time about your daughter, do you think?

Vonne Solis  35:45  
Well, I know that in the world of bereaved parents, it's a very lonely place to be, and there are millions of us out there, and that's the irony. We don't talk a lot about it. And of course, suicide is something that also is still very hush hush, and we you know, there is an absolute shame associated with it. And yes, so I absolutely agree with you, but I didn't know it at the time. I just wanted some kind of physical proof that what I was going through, mentally and emotionally, surely could be seen in the physical. You see? That that's my proof because that's how we validate things in this culture.

Ellie Pechet  36:31  
Right.

Vonne Solis  36:31  
We can see you have a problem, if you can show it to me physically, how it's manifesting, you see? And so, but it took me years to understand that, you know, really.

Ellie Pechet  36:43  
You got there. You don't need the, you know, you matured to the point where you didn't need the validation of your of your pain because you were able to heal it. And that's so important. So important.

Vonne Solis  36:59  
So, so my question is, so, for the for the person who, who comes to you, or anyone, for that matter, for work in the, you know, in the areas that we - medical science, maybe can't prove these healings, okay? Maybe they can. Maybe they can't. But, you know, they're, coming to healers for this very important work on the self. For the energy, for the emotional peace, which I believe that we need a ton more work in the emotional healing. So what do they have to do? You say that you give people the ability to live a fulfilled and empowered life. And so I just want to ask you, does there come a point where they may regress into these same issues that you've healed, or someone else maybe has healed, if they don't do an overall sort of an overhaul of themselves? Pay attention to the inside, you know, to keep them on track?. In other words, do they think they're going to come for a miracle healing and then go back to the way they were living and they're just going to be forever healed? That's the real question.

Ellie Pechet  38:19  
Well, each issue that I that I heal for my clients, is is pretty permanent. It doesn't come back. It doesn't come up again. And, you know, every time I work with someone, it gives them the the ability to live their life more on purpose and free of one more burden. You know, every session, I clear a burden that they've been carrying. So they don't - you know, what's unique about the way that I work is because I'm able to dissolve a big issue every session, it's one less thing for them to have to deal with, and it's one more step closer to the freedom that that everyone wants.

Vonne Solis  39:05  
Yeah, I absolutely agree we all want, well, I'd be hard-pressed to understand why anyone did not want to live a really wonderful, peaceful, beautiful life free of all pain and suffering? No matter what life throws at you? That's a good piece of of the work that I do, taken in very small steps from, you know, very beginning places. But moving on just a little bit here. Do you do the I know you wanted to give a couple of examples. We have time for a couple examples, and you wanted to talk about bereavement. So do you want to share a couple of stories quickly about the people you've helped that have lost their children? So anyone watching this that maybe is in pain from losing a child, their only child, one of a few children, but you know you love them like they were they were your only child, but you know you still have room in your heart for your surviving child or children, or some other loss that's really taken them to a dark place. How has this healing worked Ellie on, if you want to share a couple stories like that for our folks listening or watching?

Ellie Pechet  40:13  
Well, one woman that heard me speak at a at the afterlife conference in Scottsdale a few years ago, her son, her only child was her son, and he was murdered his first year in college. And so she was so devastated that her she completely shut down for the next seven years and tried all kinds of things. Modalities. You know, talking, support groups. Nothing helped. She was still completely shut down until she met me at the, you know, she heard me speak at the afterlife conference. And then she felt the energy that I heal with at a workshop that I that I did after the my speech, and she just knew innately that she needed to, that I could help her, and that she needed to sign up. So she signed up for four sessions, and in her very first session, I brought her to peace about the son that she had lost. And this is after seven years of suffering. Literally one session, she was at peace about about her loss of him. And she was able to really just not only feel at peace, but think about the positive memory, positive memories, and the connection that they had and will always have, and she was able to move forward with with her life again. And that's that is one of the video testimonials on my website, on the testimonials page, I would recommend that if people are, you know, interested in learning more, that they go to the testimonials page and she gives a beautiful, very articulate testimonial about how I helped her. And that's what I do for my clients, I bring them to peace about whatever is tormenting them, whatever is bothering them and keeping them from living a life of joy and happiness and freedom. 

Ellie Pechet  42:35  
So that's one example. Another example is a client whose daughter, her daughter, was murdered, and she was in a place of grief for a number of years, again, until she met me, and by then, she had developed a chronic lung infection. And grief is stored in the lungs, and so, you know, that's when I healed the her grief over her, her daughter being taken from her the the lung infection actually cleared up by about 50% that session. And then in a subsequent, subsequent session, I healed the rest of the lung infection. So that's the the emotional connection to the the physical manifestation of a lot of issues and symptoms. So.

Vonne Solis  43:40  
I was just gonna say I did see your testimonials, and, you know, and that's great. I so you also, we didn't, we didn't really focus a lot on grief because I just, you know, in in the sense of, like, you know, just you have to have a certain loss to feel this or not. Because I've really, geez, you know, just come to understand that grief is associated to so many things in our life. And I would say not to count contradict you, but I would say grief lives in a heck of a lot of places in our body. And I remember when I first started getting massages and things like that. And I had a whole bunch of stuff stored up in my butt, you know, and the lower abdomen and all of these different places, which was very significant. So just, it's, it's, there's no one size fits all from my world, my perspective. But it is the grief can permeate you in in all ways, areas that stump doctors, I'll tell you that. 

Vonne Solis  44:51  
And so audience, whether or not you are ready for some energy healing, some energy work or are already in it, um so I also I think that I want to think. I can't say this for a fact, but I'll invite my listeners and viewers to consider if you are in in horrendous pain and horrendous grief from losing your child, or I've recently met people losing their spouse that you know is affecting them in the way that you know, losing my child might have affected me. I think we're given what, what in this life, what we can bear. I really do believe that. And for some people, they can respond to losing a pet with complete and utter breakdown, because that's what they had in their life. So we're not talking here about you have to have experienced loss of your child to experience symptoms that Ellie can, you know, dissolve for you. That you can at least if you're not ready to take that step, consider looking within and taking a small step to discovering yourself,exploring within and seeing where this emotional hurt, you know, is, is blocking you. Because I really do believe that it's like you said, that it starts with the emotional. Moves, you know, into the mental and then into the physical. And there were some medical doctors, Deepak Chopra in his very early, very, very early career in the 70s, maybe? I got one of his first book, books Creating Health, speaks about this as a cardiologist. You know, like the heart conditions started somewhere else. As another form, as another form of energy. 

Vonne Solis  46:35  
So the message I want to say to the audience here is that, if you're so lucky to, as you know, be able to connect with someone that can help you, you know, with some healing in another, you know, type of healing, whatever you can start with, is a really good, solid step be, you know, to to want to be fully healed. Because the other piece of this, Ellie and you, I don't know if you see it or you don't see it, but I can sure tell you, I've met an awful lot of people you know, myself included, for a number of years. Like there's a real conflict, contradiction over wanting to be healed, especially when you've lost your child. Because that pain keeps us to them. And so especially difficult for people who aren't lucky enough to communicate with their child in the afterlife. And I was. Right from the first hours my daughter Janaya came to me and has come to me in even physical manifestations. Not so often, but they don't need but, but there have like any more, but they were a lot in the first several years. 

Vonne Solis  47:45  
So I had all that proof I needed. She's alive somewhere, in some form. We're communicating. I had the angels. So I had a lot of that going for me. However, I still struggled with many, many, many, many, many things. So it's, it's, it's, you have to be in a position and in a mental frame where you want to like that you know, it's safe to be healed. Because for a number of years, I would say, well, if I'm willing to let this go, and maybe not grief in its entirety, you know, that's a personal choice, I think, for what people are looking for, what are you going to fill that space with? You know and I started contemplating that maybe about five years ago, actually, when I wrote my last book. And so, which was basically lessons from surviving suicide, and it was written as a letter to my daughter and all the things that I wished I had known when she had passed, and to help other newly bereaved parents. And I really, really did understand that when we create a space in our heart for something more, through the healing, even in our mind. For me, it was very important I knew what I was going to replace it with, because I wasn't yet ready to see a life of joy and all of that stuff, okay? That without very heavy bereavement it's very difficult and also PTSD. You talk about being able to to treat PTSD this way. So that's a big piece of it. That it's very hard to imagine your future when your brain is not connecting the right way. You know, do you want to speak, do you want to speak to anything like about that?

Ellie Pechet  49:20  
Yeah. Well, you know, I would say that a lot of parents who lose their child to suicide, it's very common for them to feel guilt and guilt and remorse and shame sometimes, and wondering what they could have done, you know, what they missed. What they might have missed. And so, you know, when those when I'm working with a parent who has lost a child, you know, we can, we talk about it a little bit, and then I I clear the guilt or the shame, or whatever it is that they're experiencing and again, literally dissolve it. So that, you know, every time I work with them. So the first session, I might heal their grief, and then the next session, if they have shame or guilt, whatever it is. Regret about not being able to, you know, be with their child physically as they, you know, live the rest of their their life. So whatever the whatever the top issue is, I clear it in in the subsequent sessions, and my work is really built around the goal and the mission of bringing them to peace. Bringing the people that I work with to peace. Because, you know, living a life with a lot of upset and emotional charge is not, it's not living.

Vonne Solis  50:57  
It certainly isn't. So God bless you, Ellie, I didn't have you in the beginning and I did search. I did search in the first few years for anything that helped. So I had a lot of people that were mediums that you know, Angel Ashley, Angel channellers that brought her to me. And my number one thing was, and this is true for a parent. It doesn't matter how your child died. Honestly, we're all the same. I've met enough of you parents over the years, if you're watching, listening and to Ellie, I've met enough bereaved parents to know we don't even talk about how our child has died. It's just we're all in the same boat, and it feels like you know you're just drowning, as you probably know from meeting a lot of people. And so it and I met a lot of people that at the time that I became bereaved, were years into years into their bereavement, and it was destroying them. And so I'm I made the decision immediately, immediately, immediately, within a month, that that was not going to be me. I was going to find every way I could to survive this suffering and but you know, then I've had a lot of purpose work related to understanding suffering, which has made me, you know, deal with it for a little longer than maybe I wanted to, but to go on a very, very authentic journey within myself, to let the transformation happen as it as it was going to happen, and continues to to this day. 

Vonne Solis  52:21  
So that's my journey. But I've seen enough people who are not in touch. They're just left with this physical manifestation. This blob of grief, and just don't know what to do with it. So, and I know a lot of people are very desperate to know that their child is safe. Again, no matter how they died. And so that's a good, a big piece of it. But then also the self-care and to not feel guilty about wanting to be healed people, because you deserve a good life, you really do. And there's a lot of guilt associated as a bereaved parent and maybe others in bereavement, to enjoying yourself okay, for just a lot of reasons. So there is that piece to it. 

Vonne Solis  53:02  
So if you are ready to experience some healing and want to know more, I know that well, let me confirm that people can sign up for free consultation at your website phoenixrisinghealing.com.

Ellie Pechet  53:19  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  53:19  
So that's the first thing, if you're interested more in what Ellie, can you know, introduce you to check that out. A free consultation at phoenixrisinghealing.com. There, I said that pretty, pretty great in one mouthful, Ellie. And we covered some things. I don't know that we talked a ton about everything we wanted to but I think you know, I know you do global remote healing, and people can find out about that on the site. Things like that. I know I wanted to give a nod to your book Hitching a Ride, A guide to Earthbound Spirits and How They Affect You. Again, Ellie, you are in this work, and that's a whole other topic, right? But they can explore your website, get your book. We'll have a link to your website where they can find all these things if you're interested in finding out more about that kind of energy experience. Hey, Ellie? And I think you've given us a very clear idea about how you can help people. 

Vonne Solis  54:27  
Do you have any final thoughts you want to leave our audience with, if they're ready for something more? How to create space in their life? Does your dissolving of, you know, grief, depression? We didn't even get a chance to really talk about depression because we could just go on and on and on. But anything, let's just say anything toxic within us that you can dissolve, right? What do they have to do to ensure space is created for them to want the goodness that they can invite, create and invite into their life?

Ellie Pechet  55:04  
Well, they need to be open to, you know, to wanting to feel better. I, you know, there's free will, right? So I usually the people who come to me really want to feel better are struggling, are in pain. And whether it's, you know, traumas that that they're carrying, or grief that they're holding, or I can clear someone's lifelong depression. If someone has been dealing with and struggling with depression their whole life, I can, I can often clear that in one session. So I'm really about, you know, getting to the root of the issue and taking care of taking care of something really big every session. And it's important to me to be as efficient as I can so that clients do not become, you know, dependent on me. It's not about becoming dependent on me, or being with me for years, you know, like with traditional therapy. A lot of a lot of therapists, you know, they they get on that, that hamster wheel, and they just stay on the hamster wheel. I'm about clearing a core issue every session, and so that they can really start enjoying their life and their purpose for being here, and it's mostly to get them out of pain and feeling good again. So all they have to do is show up and be willing to feel better, and then I do the heavy lifting and take care of the issues.

Vonne Solis  56:42  
I love that. I saw like a door opening and just "walk through the door" and people will. On a last note, I did want to ask you though - depression, and I've certainly, I haven't had that myself, but I certainly do know of people that struggle. Can can you just share where you believe that depression, like comes from? You said grief like rests in our lungs. Well, what is depression doing to our bodies? And you know, you're right about people going for endless sessions to change meds, and, you know, do talk therapy and never get to the root of it. Do you, do you even want to share where you believe depression stems from as a physical like disorder? Yeah.

Ellie Pechet  56:43  
Depression often comes from childhood issues from feeling unwanted. From maybe actually being abandoned, emotionally, sometimes physically, also. Not feeling worthy. You know, having parents that you know caused them to feel like they weren't that important. And you know that that's what I find, where I find depression often stems from is childhood issues and not feeling cherished as a child or loved or worthy or valuable. 

Vonne Solis  56:43  
Wow.

Ellie Pechet  56:43  
And so, yeah.

Vonne Solis  56:43  
Okay. So the reason I that's just a nod to anybody watching here who is also struggling with depression. So anything really, in closing, Ellie, I'm getting from our conversation that, you know, I felt for years anyways, but, but for the newbies out there, the curious that, you know, look within. Start within and, you know, listen, if you get even a little bit curious about yourself? I think we just want to heal the things that are burden, burdensome to us. 

Vonne Solis  56:43  
And it's really interesting, because I grew up with a very, very, very ill, ill mom, but today we would, we would describe her as having postpartum depression. But it didn't exist in the 50s that term, and she really, and she really, really struggle. So it created a lot of dysfunction, you know, with many suicide attempts that she had when I was, you know, to the age of 10. And so that wasn't the thing that ended up, you know, creating the trauma in my life, right? You'd think it was, but it wasn't. It was when my daughter actually ended up taking her life that that was that was it! And I did get PTSD and learned how to manage it. Could I heal it? Sure. Do I want to? Not sure I want to do anything right now. So I'm just sitting with what I'm going through because I'm so much better than I was. 

Vonne Solis  59:29  
So I also want to offer hope to people out there. I don't think it's so much necessarily about the time that we're in grief, but I do know that the years as they add up to how long we've we've had something we're living with as a traumatic experience. We they do change as long as we do something with the experience. So I'm a firm believer, and we get to choose what we want to do with our experience. And if we want to wallow in pain and suffering, we can do that. If you want to heal, you can do that, too. We can do that too. And so I just want to throw that out there as a little plug. 

Vonne Solis  1:00:11  
So whatever it is and and one type of suffering can certainly produce other types of suffering, as I'm sure you will attest to Ellie. So a lot of what you treat in chronic pain, I mean, all of the things that you treat, I'm going, Wow, yeah, you could definitely have all of these things just from one loss or traumatic experience. So I think it's about being aware. How would you like to close this episode off, Ellie? What would you like to leave our audience with as a as maybe a key, you know, remembrance, statement, whatever?

Ellie Pechet  1:00:45  
Yeah. Well, my message to the audience would be, know that you are worthy. You are valuable. You are special and you deserve to live a life that is happy and and free and and where you're feeling inner peace all the time. That that's really what we're what we're here to come to. You know, we might have lessons, lot of lessons along the way, but the you know, my work is about helping you understand what the lessons are and heal the pain. You don't have to keep carrying the pain around with you or the emotional charge. You can just you know, if I work with you, you will have peace and you'll know what the lessons are, but you won't be in in pain anymore.

Vonne Solis  1:01:41  
That's awesome. That's awesome. You are worthy of love, and start with loving yourself. Once you love yourself, you know, you open the door to receive it from others and give it out. Give it out more genuinely to others as well. Okay, well, there's so much that we could continue to talk about Ellie, but I think that's going to wrap it up for today at the top of the hour. So I just want to thank you for coming on and sharing with my audience. Audience, check out Ellie's website phoenixrisinghealing.com, and see what you want to explore there. Either her free consultation or anything else that you may be interested in. I'll have links in the show notes. So thank you again, Ellie.

Ellie Pechet  1:02:26  
Yes. Thanks for having me on. Good to be with you. 

Vonne Solis  1:02:29  
Absolutely.