Grief Talk w/ Vonne Solis

Ep. 117 The Portal to Awakening🌀✨The Journey Home🏡

Vonne Solis/Allura Halliwell Season 7 Episode 117

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What happens when your consciousness leaves your body and everything you thought you were dissolves?

In this profound episode, Allura Halliwell, creator of The Consciousness Method™ transformational guide and author, shares her life-altering awakening experience that began during a meditation in 2018 - felt like a quantum leap in consciousness that led to a complete unravelling of her identity. What followed was a three-year integration process that challenged everything she knew about reality, Self, and transformed her into a voice of consciousness. Today, Allura helps countless others tap into the portal of awakeningthrough The Consciousness Method™ and chart their own journey from wounded to wholeness on the path home to Source.

In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of awakening and how pain is not something to escape, but a portal to Source. Through her work, The Consciousness Method™, Allura teaches that healing isn’t about fixing behavior, but about embodying your pain to liberate trapped consciousness that keeps us stuck and unhealed. We dive into self-responsibility, rewiring relationships, and the radical transformation that occurs when you stop resisting your pain and embrace it as your pathway home.

If you’re ready to stop searching and start remembering who you are, join us. Let this be a start to your return to Source.🤍🌿✨

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Vonne Solis  0:00  
I want you to tell me what, or our audience actually and me what happened. Like would you consider this your initial awakening that came to you in a whammy and has led you to everything else you've done of course?

Allura  0:13  
Yeah, I would say that is where my complete timeline shifted. There was no sort of resonance with my old timeline anymore. I was completely I use the word initiated very abruptly, which was really challenging and took me over three years to integrate. We walked down to the beach to have a meditation on the beach, and as I got onto the sand, it was a beautiful blue sky day. I was feeling like something was not really feeling great within me, but I could, I wasn't sure what it was again, and I stepped down to that sand, and I could just feel the weight of my body pulling me down. So I ended up having to lie on the on the sand. And as I was lying there, before I knew it, my consciousness had disengaged from my body, and I was looking down at my body on the ground as if I as if I was dead.

Vonne Solis  1:00  
Yeah.

Allura  1:01  
So I just there was no connection to that body in that moment, it was just, oh, there's my body on the sand. Oh, where am I going?

Vonne Solis  1:09  
This is the Grief Talk podcast with Vonne Solis. Helping you heal after loss and life's hardest hits. Today's guest is Allura Halliwell. She is a consciousness mentor and transformational guide whose radical awakening in 2018, catapulted her into a lifelong mission, helping others reconnect with the truth of who they are. Formerly a stay at home mom of three, Allura's life changed forever after a spontaneous out of body experience at a meditation retreat, which left her seeing the energetic fabric of reality. The experience dissolved her former identity and birthed a new purpose. Which was to guide others to profound reconnection, which she now does through her signature modality, The |Consciousness Method™. Allura, now helps spiritual seekers who feel stuck, despite years of personal development, healing or spiritual practice, teaching her clients how to align with wide spectrum consciousness, to access sovereignty, clarity and meaningful transformation in all areas of their life.

Vonne Solis  2:13  
Welcome to my very special guest all the way from Australia, Allura Halliwell. And pop in and say hi to the audience, Allura.

Allura  2:23  
Hello, everybody. I'm just so excited to be here today.

Vonne Solis  2:27  
Exactly. We are going to be talking, I've already introduced Allura as a woman who had a spiritual awakening and has developed her own modality, The Consciousness Method™. Which we are going to explore how Allura came to that. What it is, how she helps people and other goodies that we're going to talk about along the way. So Allura, my very first question to you is, I really did want to explore a little bit more about your experience of awakening in 2018. I did read in some of your information that you are a mom of three, and I gather so you were living the life that you were enjoying. So I just sort of want you to give us a context of what your life was like at the time. What drew you to the spiritual retreat where this awakening happened, and you know, if you had been already involved in a practice building up to this?

Allura  3:25  
That's a great question, Vonne, because I was a busy mom of three kids, four, six and eight years old. I was very consumed with the daily life of making lunches, dealing with my separation anxiety when my kids went to school, because I was really very anxious person at that point. I had a lot of ongoing stress, financial stress with my husband. I was really living the day to day life of a mum who was pretty unprocessed, unregulated and dysregulated in my system and just trying to survive. So I didn't actually have a spiritual commitment at that point. I knew that something was a little bit off, and I wasn't feeling connected in my body and connected to the experience that I was having around me, but I couldn't pinpoint what that was. And I think that that feeling that things just not okay was just ruminate like flowing through me. And I remember crying in the shower and not knowing how to solve the conflict with my husband, and just being in a really state of like, just not feeling great. The meditation retreat was a beautiful invitation by a very good friend of mine at the time who had just begun to really delve into that space. And she was like, Hey, why don't you come? This will be a really great idea, you know, great space for you to have a little break from the kids and from everything. And I was like, Oh, wow, that sounds like a holiday of sorts. And I could kind of justify that in some on some level, that I was going to go and do something that was going to help how I was feeling.

Vonne Solis  5:00  
Right.

Allura  5:00  
What happened there I didn't really expect was going to be the outcome that that came from that retreat. It changed my whole life, my whole existence.

Vonne Solis  5:10  
Wow.

Allura  5:10  
Every cell of me, and put me on a whole nother timeline.

Vonne Solis  5:16  
So let's talk.

Allura  5:17  
And no preparation.

Vonne Solis  5:18  
Yeah, well, often there isn't. So as I mentioned to Allura before we started audience, I've been at this 47 years. Started in my mid 20s, and it doesn't matter how we come to it. I'm telling you the biggest pieces I found, they hit you. Whammy. And it and I've always said. Once you turn that corner. Once you have even a little bit of enlightenment, there's no turning back. We are called, or, as a dear friend of mine said yesterday, summoned to the work we're going to do, and it invites us to explore. So there is free will in in how we want to take up that cause for ourselves, which is a lot of work, and by the way, it lasts until we take our last breath. So what I love, and I'm speaking a little bit to younger generation, but you guys probably already know this. Even those of us who have been at this like a really, really, really long time, we continue to be students of life. And if you don't consider yourself a student, or you work with a teacher who isn't still a student. You might want to just double or triple check what the information is, because really, we all know the same things. It's just packaged differently. So I want you to tell me what or our audience, actually, and me what happened, like, just share what you want. Ooh, it just sounds so exciting. Would you consider this your initial awakening that came to you in a whammy and has led you to everything else you've done of course?

Allura  6:55  
Yeah, I would say that is where my complete timeline shifted. There was no sort of resonance with my old timeline anymore. And I completely, I was completely, I use the word initiated. So I was initiated into it very, very vastly and very abruptly, which was really challenging and took me over three years to integrate. But the experience in itself was that we walked down to the beach to have a meditation on the beach. And as I got onto the sand, it was a beautiful blue sky day. I was feeling like something was not really feeling great within me, but I could, I wasn't sure what it was again, and I stepped down to that sand. Everyone was sort of scattered around meditating, and I could just feel the weight of my body pulling me down. So I ended up having to lie on the on the sand, and as I was lying there, my consciousness just moved up through my body. And before I knew it, my consciousness had disengaged from my body, and I was looking down at my body on the ground as if I as if I was dead.

Vonne Solis  7:58  
Yeah.

Allura  7:58  
So I just there was no connection to that body in that moment, it was just, oh, there's my body on the sand. Oh, where am I going? So I continued to feel like, at first, it was going up and out my consciousness, and then I merged with a very, very bright light. The purest light I can barely express.

Vonne Solis  8:17  
I've seen it. I know. I've seen it.

Allura  8:20  
Yeah, it's very it's, 

Vonne Solis  8:22  
You can't explain it. It's so bright, but it doesn't hurt, right? It envelops us, right?

Allura  8:28  
Yeah. It completely dissolved my consciousness within it. It was like the gateway. It was just so bright and beautiful. And then from there, into the void. Pure expansion, no space and no time was there. There was nothing there, but everything there and my consciousness just returned really home to that, that defined state of pure expansion and connection. And it's really, really difficult to describe the experience of being so um and expanded is just not the word to express how it feels, because it's just the return to the source of everything.

Vonne Solis  9:12  
Yeah.

Allura  9:12  
And you become everything. So my consciousness hung on by a thread. I had just the tiniest amount of recognition of being there, and the rest of me was completely submerged in that experience. So I didn't have the separation to be able to really understand and comprehend what I was doing, because I wasn't conscious. I was completely immersed in that experience. So I was there for around an hour and a half, human time, I was told later. And during that time, my body was just breathing, like, very, very, apparently, just breathing very lightly on the beach, like I was just asleep. People thought I was just having a nap. You know, no one really thought. But then after everyone had finished and came over and I was still not back, they were like, Oh, hold on, where is she? And, I was out the I began to feel experience frequencies. So I began to get a little bit of consciousness back. And as soon as I tapped into the frequency of unconditional love, it was whoosh. I came straight back out of the Void into back through the light, and I could see my body, and I could, I came back down. And that was kind of my first awareness that there is some connection to this unconditional love and this degree of separation we have to have to be experiencing our human dimension.

Allura  10:31  
So I came back down into that love, into my body. I woke up eyes open, and I could only see energy. So everything was shimmering, everything was vibrating, the ocean, the sky. I looked around. I felt like I was like an like a giant being squished into an ant's body. I felt alien. I felt confused. I was taken off the beach. I looked in the mirror, and I was like, I have no idea who you are. So I had a form of amnesia. I went, was taken to eat breakfast. I sat down, I chose something from the buffet. People around me that knew me were like, What are you doing? I'm like, Oh, I don't know. And they're like, you're gonna about to eat meat. You haven't eaten meat since you were 11. I'd picked up a sausage from the buffet. I didn't know what to eat. I didn't have any preference. I didn't have any memory of the previous version of me. So it completely rewrote my whole perception of myself and my reality. And then I returned home, and I walked into my house. I didn't know I looked at I was like, this feels familiar. I'm not sure why I'm here. How I created this. What is this? I looked at my ex, my now ex-husband, and I realized that I was not the woman that he married anymore.

Vonne Solis  11:53  
Wow.

Allura  11:55  
And I looked at my beautiful children, and went, I know that I, you're, we're connected, but I just have to refine that connection, and that was a journey in and all of itself.

Vonne Solis  12:07  
So that really

Allura  12:08  
It brings up emotion.

Vonne Solis  12:10  
Yeah, of course. So thank you for sharing what you're sharing. Couple thoughts I had was I haven't heard your story or read about anyone having your exact story, but it sure sounds like an NDE. A near death experience. What you're describing sounds, except for the part about the amnesia. So did you you know whether your brain was being rewired? Whether you had electrical energy volts going through you, whatever it was, you know, have you researched what or worked with anybody that has been able to help you understand that amnesia part of it?

Allura  12:47  
Some people have presented the concept of a walk-in, but that hasn't felt aligned, because I could sense the continuation of my own soul. It was almost like my soul just took a quantum leap and evolved very quickly. And all the things that were aligned to it in that they just almost evaporated, because I almost re-entered at this other level from where I was previously, and everything that was meaningful at that other level had just kind of dissolved. So I didn't I had this other design pattern running.

Vonne Solis  13:22  
Yeah. I'm going to just say to the audience. Allura, I told you before we started, I have had Barbara With on my show October 1st, 2024 and we recorded yesterday for her episode coming on March 25 where we're going to be talking, we did talk about timeline healing. But we spoke to this and and so she's channelled Einstein for four decades. So you know? So how she explains some of this stuff that happens to us? When we heal either this timeline or multiple timelines at the same time, right? It's like you get a download of information. And sometimes it's, so that's what it's like. It's like the download comes in, and it's almost like a new version uploading on our computers. You see what I'm saying? And so, well, some of...

Allura  14:09  
I love that.

Vonne Solis  14:10  
And so some of the stuff is still there this I'm trying to help the audience, kind of like, what? What are they talking about? So it's kind of like when we have to do our updates on our phones or our iOS operating system, you know? And your stuff is still there, but you have a newer version and a more improved version of the apps, okay?

Allura  14:31  
I love that description.

Vonne Solis  14:33  
Right. And that's just coming to me, probably from the angels. Thank you. And you know, I told Allura, I worked with the angels now for 21 years, and so they're just so part of me, they will give me information and downloads. So I kind of think that's what it feels like. But in your case, it might have been so intense that and something you contracted for, because again, now, do you believe that we contract everything? We sign up for the lessons. We sign up for all of our experiences. Do you believe that?

Allura  15:05  
I believe we sign up for evolution of consciousness. That every human is here to keep evolving through layers of consciousness. From the separation and the density and the contraction into the truth of the expansion of Source connection. Which is that we are here to, I think I was shown that expansion to be able to understand how to bring that expansion into human form. And then after that event, the experience I went through in the development of the understanding of what happened to me, and then the application of that through what I developed was really the path to return to the source of myself, and then being able to offer that pathway to others.

Vonne Solis  15:53  
Yeah.

Allura  15:53  
So I believe in evolution. I believe, I'm not sure if it's a set contract, but I believe that the contract is evolution of the consciousness of ourselves.

Vonne Solis  16:03  
So what I believe is, let me reframe it. So I believe in consciousness evolution. We're all here, over many lifetimes to get it. So that's so, that that's, that's just, that's, that's what Earth's for. But my so let me reframe my question. So in in concert with that. Do you believe that we all choose our own experience experiences? How we achieve that and that we create the life story and everything as we go through it? Very often, too.

Allura  16:35  
Fascinating? Yeah, that's a fascinating question. Because what I've, I began to understand was that when I merged with that Source consciousness in that awareness moment, right? Like we all go back there when we die and we come back from birth and we and we alternate back and forth from that.

Vonne Solis  16:53  
Yeah.

Allura  16:54  
Expansion, contraction, you know, the non-material, the material.

Vonne Solis  16:57  
Yeah.

Allura  16:58  
But when I did that, I realized that there was some, I call it a core fracture. When we split from that Source and come into the individual version of us. That is one of them, I think, one of the core dynamics that gets set in our template. That we actually separate from Source and we become a material version of ourselves. From that point, I had seen the collation of the patterns of that separation playing out over our lifetimes. Whereby, we split from Source and we have this confusion about, are we really love? And are we really loved? Are we really enough and worthy of having the experiences we're having? Are we really understood and seen and heard? And those patterns keep playing out through us until we can see and connect to, I suppose, the Divine Intelligence that comes from seeing that that pattern is just a reflection of us coming into the inner connection that collapses that separation. So I've worked a lot with how, instead of these things that we feel like we've created to have these experiences, I think the design of this reality has a lot to play, a big part to play in why we continue to cycle through the same, the same aspects of our lives. The same loops, the same things we feel. The same things that keep happening and repeating. So, I think there's an interface piece where it's not just us and our healing, but there's a design here that we're meant to step through.

Allura  18:39  
And when I have worked with people, and I've taken out that it's our personal responsibility that we have these things happen to us, and I've looked at it as a vaster picture of this is actually the evolutionary pathway you've been initiated into. It's felt like people have been able to go, Oh, I'm not responsible for this. That bad thing didn't happen because it was my fault and I signed up for that. That's actually an evolutionary event. And the thing that I find people and myself find really difficult to get through was how we felt blocked when we go when we go through those events. What happens to us when we contract when these things happen? And we can maybe speak a little more about that, but for me, I witnessed a wider reality pattern that was playing out through all of us. Yeah.

Vonne Solis  19:28  
So your take is very different to what I obviously cut my teeth on decades ago and and what many of us at that time and still, I still do follow. So I want to get really, get clear with you, because I find it interesting how you're approaching this, and obviously it's your journey to approach it the way you're approaching to it, and you've got your own language associated with it. And so I for my perspective, and I'm going to offer this, because I love to have a little bit of give and take and just conversation and people can make up their own mind, right? So I think, I think it really just all comes down to how, how the knowledge is framed. So I totally believe in a Source, one Source, whatever people call it. Whatever they choose to come and call it, and I don't even want to get into all of it, because it's so so, so it can be, it can be complex, and yet it's just so simple, but it we but it has to come to us in ways that we understand. So, so I do want to ask you a little bit more, though. I want to clarify, because a lot of my work is about about in the human part. I think, I think we're really kind of talking about two things. We're talking about that Source, part of us, and you've got your own language for that. And then we're also talking about the human part of us that it sounds like, it sounds like you do accept and believe that we have multiple incarnations to play out well, what I just really, in very basic terms, consider the goal of merging again with Source to whatever degree we can.

Vonne Solis  21:11  
Now listen this, who knows? Who knows what really happens? Maybe my daughter? I really believe all this knowledge comes to us the second we cross. A hundred percent. And I think any of us that go into the quote void. As a matter of fact, I don't know if you're aware, but, but all of the empirical research is showing consciousness is the black hole, okay? That's where consciousness lies. And the dark matter is very, very important for how it plays and interacts with the consciousness, and it goes on and on and and, and so that's some of the tidbits of stuff that I get in from science articles, you know, and stuff like that. But the point I'm making is the responsibility bit. I want to just go back, circle back to that a little bit because in so what I'm grounded in, in my own work, is in the human part of us, we have to take responsibility. And you can counter this for sure, that for everything that happens to us. So big picture. Spiritual beings. We're all we're all here knowingly or unknowingly, consciously or subconsciously, trying to get back to Source, or at least, I might refrain reframe it like this. Live with Source shining through us, you know as to the best that we can. I've, you know what? I don't know if it's to graduate like our soul? And so we say, you'll, I don't know if you've heard this, but I've heard it for decades. I really hope I don't have to come back to the earth, this planet, to learn this all over again. I really hope I don't have to come back. This will be people who have been in a spiritual practice for decades, and they're tired of of a lot of the lessons. They're tired of the state of the world and all of this stuff.

Vonne Solis  23:08  
So it's well known that, again, an older, you know, long standing preface, is that we come to learn our toughest lessons on Earth, and it's the toughest place to learn them. Have you heard that? And do you think about that? Does that factor into your work? Because I'm trying to get your this take on responsibility for everything that happens to us. See, I believe that we are, in fact, responsible for everything that happens to us through lessons we're choosing and experiences we're choosing to get us back to Source. So to graduate from Earth. I've been raised on that by all the teachers in the 60s and the 70s and even today. So I'm just curious about your take on that, and if you are working with people who you know, or your own teachings differ from that approach?

Allura  24:03  
Yeah. I'd say they definitely do.

Vonne Solis  24:07  
Differ?

Allura  24:08  
Because, yeah, definitely differ.

Vonne Solis  24:10  
Okay.

Allura  24:11  
Because what I've what I've witnessed, is that the only way reason people don't feel comfortable here, and the only reason I didn't feel safe returning here was because I had these programs of separation running through my system. So I didn't have a true relationship with my survival patterns, which was my nervous system. The way I programmed what I perceived in my reality. How I responded and reacted to everything around me. How I was, my inner template was driving my relationship to my reality. And more importantly, I didn't have when I came back, a healthy and well developed relationship to my own pain. The one thing that I believe every human fear in their lives? The one thing that makes this place feel really uncomfortable and people want to leave? The one thing that means that we want to graduate or get out of here, is that we don't feel safe in the relationship to our pain. It feels foreign. It feels uncomfortable, and we develop our whole existence around an unconscious, unconscious avoidance of experiencing pain. So this could look like staying in the same job. Staying in the same relationship. Avoiding a relationship. Holding on to a trauma pattern that you have shame around because you believe that it was your fault. It can be a whole spectrum of things that you feel are so painful for you to experience that they just get locked and trapped in the template of your system, which is actually projecting the reality around you. And then you get trapped in your existence, and you think there's no way out. And when we work on a surface level with that, then there is the continuation of those loops, the unconscious loops, to keep the mirror of showing us where they're at.

Allura  26:11  
But what I've worked with, consistently with myself and with the beautiful humans that do this work, is the pure relationship with pain, and I'm not speaking a somatic way. I'm not speaking a kind of a nervous system regulation way. I'm speaking as in using pain as a portal, like a threshold of almost dying into yourself consciously so that you can liberate through your own pain to actually live and be safe to live here. So when I had my multi-dimensional experience, I came back into my body, I could see all my timelines. I could see all the lives I've lived. But they were all bringing me into this moment right now.

Vonne Solis  26:58  
Like one. Emerging yeah.

Allura  26:59  
As I yeah, as I started to process the density that was hooked and everything's reflected. So nothing is nothing happening now has not happened back then. Everything's connected. All the patterns are connecting. All the fractals are connecting.

Vonne Solis  27:14  
Yeah.

Allura  27:14  
So whatever I was processing now was processing here as well, and collapsing me back to presence, because those two things, they're mirroring. And when you look at the direct pain that is held in both of those places, you collapse back to being here now. And then the presence of being now is the relief. We are relieved when we are right here. And this is not about the power of now or creating presence. You cannot do that. You have to release the density that keeps you separate from the presence. And so for me, I'm really passionate about that collapse through that pain. And it's not a, it's not an enjoyable experience. It's when you begin to do it because you're going to the place you don't want to go and feeling that you don't want to feel. However, when you understand what pain is, it's I have people looking for their pain to liberate themselves on the daily. And the things that people are liberating from are things that they thought were impossible. Like childhood trauma that was trapped in their system from age four. Relationships with family members that they thought could never change because releasing that pain releases consciousness. Pain is just trapped consciousness, and the more consciousness we have, the more connection we have to this life. And that's what I realized. I'm, being able to live here in the completion of yourself is the greatest gift, and there's nowhere to go. There's nothing better than this. This is where it's at.

Vonne Solis  28:49  
Do you, do you think? I have two questions for you, going back to your your template. I think that's fascinating, how you explain everything. And as you were speaking, I had this image of like, Hmm, there's a generation of and now, when I say new souls, I don't mean new as as young. I mean new purpose-type souls coming to so everything that you're sharing is new knowledge for people like me, who started, you know, even a generation or two generations before you, okay? So what information comes to us and how it's coming to us is you're you're expressing it in a different way to what has been there, and it's wonderful. If you haven't written a book, I hope you're writing one. Are you writing a book?

Allura  29:34  
I have one.

Vonne Solis  29:34  
Oh, you do have one.

Allura  29:35  
 Unloved, "Unloved, Unworthy, Unknown", and it's on Amazon.

Vonne Solis  29:39  
Okay, "Unloved, Unworthy, Unknown". Okay, I don't know if you're if I got that, but we'll make sure that we promote that for you. Unknown, it's, it's awesome what you're saying. So I want to know two things. Wait going back to the template idea. Is that template, which, to me, is just another way to describe incarnations. Like all the stuff that the soul brings in from every single life that we've lived. Okay, sorry if I sound old school. Is that what a template, is that what a template is for you? What is a template?

Allura  30:12  
The inner template would be a combination of your energetics, your emotional system, your mental system, your your nervous system, your belief system. It's just the combination of what makes you the unique version of yourself and that is running within you and projecting reality around you.

Vonne Solis  30:35  
But what about all the influences from every other timeline? How do they fit into the template?

Allura  30:40  
What I've seen is, and this may feel a little bit simplistic, is that the timelines are very much repetitive. The things that we did in the previous timelines are very much playing out in this timeline now. I don't sense that there's like, a whole lot of information that we kind of gathered back then, and we have to process now that's unrelated to us. There's going to be a lot of repetition, because that's how reality fractalizes, and nature fractalizes. Like we are fractalizing beings. And our energy wants to move in the same way as it's always moved and create the same experiences it's always had for the evolutionary experience. So I don't see that we've dragged all this stuff from the past, and we're like, like, laden with all these things that we can't, you know, that we have to kind of sift through. I see that whatever's happening now has happened before. And I suppose an example to explain that is that when I was I came home and I was sitting meditating. I had to meditate six hours a day to be in Source because I wasn't able to just function with my eyes open to begin with. I was shown very clearly a version of myself that was a slave girl, like she was a slave girl, and she was actually murdered within that slave environment. That template of the energetics of that girl was the same template I was playing out in my marriage. I acted like a slave in my marriage. I was like whatever I can do to make you happy from my unconscious self, so that you will love me, will make will make everything safe. So I'll do whatever it takes to get your love and to get your emotional safety. When I saw that patterning, I was like, we're not doing this anymore. And I liberated that girl through the multi-dimensional space, and I liberated myself. I was very clear that that marriage was not going to continue for me, because it was absolutely unable to continue in the in the consciousness I'd stepped into. That little girl dissolved back to Source as that version of me was playing out now dissolved back. So you don't need to go back and look at all the density. You only need to process what's here. If you have the gift of a multi-dimensional vantage point and you can see those threads, that's a beautiful gift. Because you will see that everything will collapse into now, right now. Nothing will be left. Nothing will be separate. Everything will be interconnected to here. So.

Vonne Solis  33:10  
Do you? Do you? Yeah, again, it's, it's, you're just using different language for language, I have different language for that. But so do you believe that, I want to be careful how I say this now. So that timelines? I mean, we have oodles of them, right? God knows how many? I've heard some, some spiritual teachers say thousands. I don't know. I'm not even going to get into that. I don't care. Do you believe that some timelines? So what I'm kind of hearing you say is you healed the timeline of the little slave girl that you're carrying and living out in this existence, this template, current template. And there's things that are all going to be similar in that little girl's template, whenever she lived, it doesn't the actual time period doesn't really matter. But my question is, if we have hundreds or thousands of timelines, okay? Not every single one of them is going to be the little slave girl, because if she was, you know, it's taken a long time to learn what you need to learn from it and use the slave girl for any anything we're experience experiencing. So my question is, do you think or believe that that, well, I believe that we carry everything from every timeline. Some things are just more important and come to prominence when we're ready to heal them. So for you, what were you trying to heal from the slave girl experience and being a quote slave to your marriage? Do you believe we can have more than one thing to heal from various timelines?

Allura  34:54  
So I don't look at the concept of healing because I don't. I just I feel like we are really deeply complete in ourselves. What I do realize is our internal frequency is going to determine the timeline that we're on. So that frequency of our energy is going to be the projection of the timeline we're experiencing. So you can even feel that in yourself. Like when you're having a really great morning, you're feeling really good, your frequency is just determining the reality around you. When you're when you're feeling that grief or that you know that you're feeling that other frequency. So I believe there's infinite timelines, because there's infinite frequencies. There's not like a number in that, right? So for me to be able to touch into that, the frequency I was looking to move into was one of freedom. It was a frequency of freedom, of personal freedom.

Vonne Solis  35:55  
Okay.

Allura  35:55  
So that frequency of personal freedom washes over my whole timeline. It becomes part of everything. So I don't need to go back and find all the times I was not free.

Vonne Solis  36:05  
No, but why did? Why did? Why do you think you may have had hundreds of timelines wishing, I'm just saying, wishing, desiring to feel the frequency of freedom, and never made it in the other timelines. So what I'm saying to you is, why do you think the slave girl timeline came to you and maybe not another one?

Allura  36:30  
Because it's kind of not irrelevant, but it doesn't actually matter which one comes.

Vonne Solis  36:36  
Okay, okay.

Allura  36:37  
It's just about getting the medicine, because that that one shift.

Vonne Solis  36:42  
Okay.

Allura  36:42  
Like when my frequency shifts now, it shifts my frequency across all time and space.

Vonne Solis  36:47  
I agree with you. I agree with you. So really, what I'm getting at is some people will focus specifically, especially when they do past life regression. Okay? You've heard of past life regression, right?

Allura  36:57  
Yeah. Yeah.

Vonne Solis  36:58  
Okay. So they will go to explore the story of a timeline. And what it sounds like you're doing is you're not really exploring and interested in the story. You're interested more in the frequency. Co rrect me, if I'm wrong. It sounds like you're dealing much more in vibration, frequency. Story doesn't really matter. But you see, over the decades past life regression was all about understanding the story, so we don't repeat it, or we find we are repeating it. And you can fix elements of the story, and you're shifting it almost to a mathematical formula or sequence or other framework, very almost empirical. Which brings me back to feeling like there may be a group of you who are souls with this new way of presenting information that we're not used to hearing. So when I listen to you speak, I can guarantee you, other than Barbara talking her empirical stuff, I don't hear people talk the way you talk. And I'm saying that really respectfully.

Allura  38:12  
No, thank you, Vonne, no, I agree with that.

Vonne Solis  38:16  
It's very innovative and progressive. So I'm wondering if there's a, I don't want to say community of souls, but a rebirth of the people that are coming in. As parents, you know, we have children like my daughter. She was way ahead of her time. Way ahead of her time, and she left the planet at 22. So in the human story, we would say sad, tragic, death, suicide, mental illness. Like there would be umpteen numbers of stories with the human perception of life is a story, okay? When you would were to and by the way, I have a surviving son who is absolutely wonderful. He's nine years younger than her, so he's, she was the top or, end of higher end of the millennial. He's the low end, 33 nearly 34 and completely different experience. But what I'm, I think I'm trying to say to you, and it's and so again, I I'm pausing a little bit because I haven't talked to anyone like this before, and I'm trying to express what in my brain, okay? Language I'm used to, and you're challenging me. But people your generation might just go, I get her. I know exactly what she's talking about.

Vonne Solis  39:41  
No.

Vonne Solis  39:41  
Oh, they don't?

Allura  39:43  
No. I, I have this, I have this ongoing. It's okay.

Vonne Solis  39:48  
Okay, so I, I, but I understand what you're saying. I understand.

Allura  39:51  
No, yeah, it makes sense.

Vonne Solis  39:53  
You're just saying it differently, and so you're shifting, maybe the perception of any one of us who are ready to consider hearing information differently? But to get to the same place.

Allura  40:09  
Yeah. Of course, we're all going to the same place, yeah.

Vonne Solis  40:12  
So it made me think for a minute there. It made me think that, Wow, well, Allura's community of folks that are gravitating to her work, they're going to get this and just understand the language, the speak. But you're saying no.

Allura  40:29  
Because this is a level of consciousness. So I'm communicating a consciousness that is coded in specific words that have come through via the development of this consciousness. So I use these words because they all are coded, and this is the same for all the processes and meditations that I've recorded. They're all coded in a consciousness. So I have people in my community that will do the same meditation that like one year, and then they'll do it the next year, and they'll go, Oh my gosh, Allura. I never ever heard that line, because the consciousness is meeting wherever you're at and expanding you through that. So I believe what happened to me that was that I just became a conduit of consciousness.

Vonne Solis  41:12  
Yes.

Allura  41:12  
It's not about Allura as a human. It's about the consciousness that I'm here to express. So there's nothing about me in that. That's just, it's an expression of a consciousness.

Vonne Solis  41:22  
Yeah. Okay, so I, it came to me, actually I had a guest on the show who speaks light, okay? Yeah. And she actually speaks light language. And she has examples of it, and there's a man, and I can't remember his name right now, so I'm just, I'm just trying to bring you a little bit of information about other people who come here and speak another language. You're speaking consciousness. You are speaking consciousness. Okay? And when you said code, I mean, I, you know, yeah, it's, it's its whole language. And I haven't heard your meditations, so I don't know how they sound, but I'll check them out if you've got some on your website? Do you have some on your website? Okay, so audience, go and check this out. Because the thing is that, so there was a man who, also 20, 30, years ago, spoke angels. Like but it was music. It came out music. And you couldn't even try to decipher the vibration that made a sound, because it was specific to each archangel, and that was his offering and gift to the world.

Vonne Solis  42:33  
So Allura, Miss consciousness herself. I feel like I'm actually speaking to you, Allura in human, but really, you are a magnificent channel for work that humans are designed to discover. And did you know that scientists, and I know, you know Deepak Chopra. Have heard of him, and he was at this recent, last July, Science of Consciousness symposium that they do every year, and physicists and mathematicians go and all of this stuff. And he there was a YouTube, and I'm just using him because he is somebody who, for decades and decades, has been studying one of the many, you know, he was a cardiologist, or one of the many empirical scientists and researchers trying to figure out what consciousness is. And there he is in July, going, we don't know what it is. And go ahead, no, and I'm talking to someone who's speaking consciousness, and it feels and I'm saying this super respectfully, like a part of you is from somewhere else. I can see that, right?

Allura  43:56  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  43:57  
And do you, do you struggle with that? Like, like, do you struggle with that feeling alone? So it feels to me almost like you awaken to your job. I'm calling it a job. It's a purpose, but it's a job that probably has taxed you incredibly and perhaps even required sacrifice of you. Giving you a bit of a reading here, to almost blaze a trail for just the few who are going to get what you're doing as a as you said, a portal, a conduit to help people open that up in themselves. Is that about it?

Allura  44:42  
Absolutely. Yeah. It's it, this is a form of mission I've been initiated into, and the human version of me is very much in service to that consciousness. So, yeah, I had to lose my family. You know? I had to die into myself. I had to create huge space of isolation to be able to come here. And just a little side note, I have completely reconnected and unified with my babies, and they never left me. But, you know, I lost the family unit, and I, yeah, I had to. I have, you know, this is all there is for me. And I say this all the time. There's nothing else here for me to do but to do this every waking moment of my existence. And I'm here to offer that, that that support and that understanding, because what I was showing was the construct of reality and where consciousness intersects with that. And that information is taking a lot for me to process and express. And when people enter the work, they're like, I'm not really sure what's going on, but I can feel something is here for me. And that felt sense, and then stepping through and really committing to the understanding within themselves is the critical thing, because there's no no place for an intellectual understanding of this. I know I will not tolerate like I won't allow it to limit in that way, so there's nothing to understand.

Vonne Solis  46:22  
Yeah.

Allura  46:22  
And in terms of a mental understanding. And people will come to me after years of different modalities, and they're like, I know so much, and I honour that journey that people take to know so much about this existence, but I can't feel any of it. I'm not embodied in the truth of any of that. And that's where I really want to support that, that understanding to embody the consciousness. Which is a different patterning and a different way of meeting it, than just it being something that you know and that's what it is.

Vonne Solis  46:58  
And that's why so as I so, as I'm sitting here listening to you, it's so I get so okay. Again, I'm going to frame this partly for the audience, okay? But partly also just to make it really simple for me to explain it. So when you were everything you just said, if you remember it, but I heard every word you said, I understand the pain doesn't matter. Nothing, like you might get caught up in it, and as you were explaining, I wrote it down, dying into yourself. And pain is trapped consciousness, okay, I love that. So pain is trapped consciousness. So the point is, I actually even believe pain doesn't really even exist. It's, it's kind of its own, it's, it only exists if we want it to exist. Okay? What do you want to say about that? And I'm speaking as an, okay, go ahead. Yeah.

Allura  47:58  
Yeah. For me, the pain is the only truth.

Vonne Solis  48:01  
Okay. So...

Allura  48:02  
The only thing that is the illusion is the story we tell about the pain.

Vonne Solis  48:06  
Okay, well, exactly, yeah, but you just said the illusion of the pain. So I want to dig a little deeper. So the pain is there at one and correct me, reframe it. I'm a bereaved mom. So I will use my story. And I would sit and say to you in a human story, and I am saying this on behalf of every bereaved parent out there. Allura, I love what you're doing, and I love what you're philosophizing about, and all this, all this code on okay, now I'm just being, you know, I'm just hypothetically saying this to you and and poking the bear here. But tell me, talk to me when you've lost one of your children, and then tell me that you're going to, you know, espouse every single thing you've just said to me and how your work would help you heal from what people experience in their timeline, a lifetime of pain. Now, now part two of this is, I'm a bereaved mom, and I learned that my lesson was to understand pain is an illusion. Okay? Because you just said that too. It's an illusion. But talking to you, I'm when I say pain doesn't really exist, what I mean is reframing it. I think pain really is the illusion in our Source state. And if we can get to Source state, that's what dissolves it. Wipes it out. And while in our human stories, we talk about it in terms of healing, really, it's just for lack of a better expression, becoming whole or at one again. Unifying with the Oneness of us all, which is why we came to the damn planet to begin with. So I'm just putting, now would you like to respond to that?

Allura  50:00  
So firstly, I want to honour the the journey that you've been on with your daughter. And I've sat, I've sat with my closest friend the morning of the passing of her four year old. And I am conscious of the level of pain that gets opened in that portal of of awakening for the souls that have had that probably one of the deepest pains that we could possibly experience as humans. That loss is the hugest separation.

Vonne Solis  50:47  
Right.

Allura  50:48  
So I honour that very deeply and profoundly, as a human experience. The pain is not to be removed. It's not to be ignored, and it's real. The pain is always real and valid. The sentence I say repeatedly is your pain is real. The story you may tell around that pain is a form of just distancing yourself from that pain, but your pain is real. So what happens when we stretch our nervous system beyond the fear of experiencing that pain is that we feel like there's an internal death. So when we get so closely connected to the sensation and energetic experience within the portal of our body of our pain and we do not turn away. We stretch ourselves to be completely at at the center point of that pain? By default, we collapse through that pain back to Source. We don't need to go to Source to remove the pain. The pain is the pathway to Source. It is always been the pathway, because it's the thing within us that that codes the separation. 

Allura  52:03  
So when we have the pain, we're separating from ourselves in that fear, and the fear creates this ongoing pattern all around us. When we're truthful with the degree of our pain and we hold ourselves and we're supported to hold ourselves to transverse that pain, we liberate through that pain, and it takes time. There's layers of conditioning and processing. And witnessing my very close friend step through this process, and being there to support her, the conditioning and the programming that kept layering through that pain, we had to keep going back into that pain. To keep releasing that pain, and that liberation force through her body has just been a huge journey. A huge undertaking, but she's she's now going to have a baby in a couple of weeks, and she's so much of her wholeness has returned through that journey and her authenticity and the value of that life that she has, and it's being a massive journey. So. 

Vonne Solis  53:11  
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're explaining, you're you're explaining it. And I was saying that lovingly to you as a hypothetical, you understand? But I want people. I want, but I just want people and to understand another way of maybe viewing their pain and because okay, here's a question. Do you think all of us repeatedly come to the planet with pain? Do you think there's anyone on the planet that's that's fully you know, like now I know, but overcome and doesn't have that energy of pain within them? That frequency of pain within them?

Allura  53:54  
You can be unconscious to the pain, sort of asleep in the survival mode of your life. And that's what happens when awakening happens. The first thing you're going to experience is the full spectrum of your emotions. Your grief, your sadness, the density that's being trapped in your body, because that's the portal of the awakening. That's the journey home.

Vonne Solis  54:16  
Yeah.

Allura  54:16  
So everyone has the pain of separation coded within them, but just some people have the access, and some people don't, because they're not in that position of being able to...

Vonne Solis  54:26  
Yeah.

Allura  54:26  
even get through the fear yet to open to that.

Vonne Solis  54:29  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  54:29  
So Allura, we are finishing this, audience. We had to come back two and a half weeks after our first chat just to finish this off. And so Allura and I both agree that we're very happy that we got to connect again after two and a half weeks. I know you're a very, very, very busy person, Allura, and I'm very grateful to have had this time. But you know what? That absence also gave me a little bit of time to digest the work you're doing. And I remember there was a light bulb moment when we talked and I went, I get it. You speak consciousness. So the reason I'm just coming clean with we're doing this in two different segments, is because your work definitely takes time to digest. As I said, probably in part one, it's not every day I meet someone that speaks consciousness and is given this level of responsibility, I would almost say, and purpose to help others. You have a beautiful, beautiful website, and I do want to invite folks who have tuned in, stayed with us, to check out your website. Also, your beautiful, beautiful book, "Unloved Unworthy Unknown". I mentioned audience to Allura. I just got her book today, and I'm super excited to read that, because I think that will also help us understand what you are doing. And I just wonder sometimes, and I think we touched on this too when we last spoke, that it might be a bit difficult for you to sometimes even express what you're doing, or have you got so comfortable with it, you just can talk about it?

Allura  56:04  
That's such a great question, because it's a very comprehensive awareness and channel that I have with the consciousness that I sometimes feel a pressure that I can give one piece. But that piece is so interconnected to so many other pieces that there needs to be time and space to allow that all to unfold and to be received and to be understood. Because a piece in isolation sometimes doesn't land with the full, the full mix of all the the connected pieces. So I do feel a mild like pressure running through me to convey the consciousness in a way where people receive all the parts they need to fully engage with what I'm expressing. And often it takes a period of time for people to hear, hear me speak. Understand the terminology. Understand the direct impact in the embodiment, which is really the most crucial thing for me. That when you understand the process, you've actually experienced it. Your consciousness has stepped through that portal and you've received it via embodiment. Which for me is my ultimate goal, because I don't want it to be something mental. I want it to be something very much lived and felt and very embodied.

Vonne Solis  57:24  
Your book goes into pretty much probably everything we've talked about. How you see pain, how to process pain. How we can think about pain. How we can move through it. All of these things. And do you also in your book, if you, if you want to just actually describe what the book format of it kind of is? Like do you have techniques and so on and so forth?

Allura  57:48  
Yeah. So it does step through the spaces of The Consciousness Method™, which is just the name I've given it, to give it an ease of reference. So each chapter shows how I gained that level of awareness. So it kind of helps you to see the journey that I've actually stepped through to get there. Nothing is referenced in the book. There's no external reference to any other body of work or any other awareness. Everything is completely coming through from the consciousness that I'm connected to. So once that understanding that I've received is shared in the beginning of that chapter, then I step through a more deeper explanation of how that works, and then how that can be self-processed. And then we sort of we step through to the end, to being a kind of realization and where you'll land when that comes through for you. But I've also created a whole page of resources. So while you're doing the book, you can also receive the meditations and the master classes and all the other things that come just free with the book. So you can immerse more in the whole process, rather than just the reading part.

Vonne Solis  58:56  
What a wonderful gift you are to the world. I mean, I just feel I have to say that, because I don't know many people that would take, like I said, this on. It's pretty heavy. And I can say that after decades, decades working in that space. And what I will say to people who are curious and starting out. Those of us who are already, you know, years in, and I'm curious about what you're doing, and I can learn from you. And I don't mind saying that. I don't mind saying that because most of the guests I come, I have on the podcast, are people I feel I can learn from. So we never stop learning audience. But this is also work that is, I think, probably presented in a way we can revisit. And when work, I always say a good book requires revisiting many times, and and I know, when I wrote my first book, Divine Healing, the first half was about my daughter's suicide, but the second half was all about at that time, 20 wait. When did I write it? 2000, 2011, I published it. But I had people tell me that they couldn't read it. They couldn't get through it. The second part. Where, you know, and I was like, Oh, that's okay. That's okay. And so and so I get, I get when we're presenting something in the time that we're presenting it. In the generation, and what people, even a few people, are ready to hear. That's our job, and that's a responsibility. And so for folks engaging with Allura and her work, don't expect you're going to have maybe an instant change, but take it as a body of work that you can almost treat as as a lasting resource and revisit. And don't you think Allura, that when we revisit information, we digest it differently as well, the more we heal, and the more consciousness expands and raises?

Allura  1:00:48  
Oh, 100%. I have people that have been doing my meditations for a couple of years now.

Vonne Solis  1:00:54  
Yeah.

Allura  1:00:54  
And sometimes they'll just get a meditation and they'll be like, Allura, I have never, ever heard you say that sentence in that meditation ever. I've heard it 100 times. I've never, ever heard it, and that's because it's very coded in consciousness. But it's also meeting the consciousness of the person that's coming into the space. So it's evolving with the person. So I've never really had anyone say, Oh, this is getting boring or stale or old or I can't do this anymore. It's like, actually, every time I go there, and that's because my intention is that it's expanding your consciousness. It's not a defined, limited construct that you're going to get something and then move on. It's not a mental or even emotional. It's just a comprehensive space to enter.

Vonne Solis  1:01:40  
Yeah.

Allura  1:01:41  
So I do find that. So I do think the book will be something that people will have to, you know, I've had people say I've read chapter two five times, and I'm just still absorbing and feeling and receiving and processing and applying. Which is also important.

Vonne Solis  1:01:56  
Yes. Yeah, so I love what you said. The work will meet you audience, where you are in your space and in your consciousness and your energy and vibration and all of that kind of stuff. And as we all evolve, and I mean, I guess I'm at the point where I'm thinking that, you know, I just think I'll be evolving until I'm not on the planet anymore. And my goal is to evolve at the highest vibration and with the most knowledge, I guess is the best way to say it, that I came here to achieve. And I really believe Allura, when we awaken at any point in this life? Well, obviously you can't turn it off. You have awakened and right? And then we become aware of what we're supposed to do and try and achieve. Having said that, I also realize that perhaps, I don't want to say limits, but perhaps there's only so much we can get ourselves to. But at any rate, I just want to be really proud of my efforts, with all the work I've put in and the and the lessons and the experiences, and I want everybody else to think about their own life in the same way, because none of us get away without challenges. Would you agree?

Allura  1:02:59  
Oh, my goodness no. And that's the that's the like, the juicy gift of life. All those challenges that we've we've stepped through. And Vonne, I mean, you can completely, I mean, I'm honouring you. But just honouring the journey you've been on and the space that you've created for so many people to come together to receive this knowledge is a profound gift to humanity because it gives all the people that are creating an opportunity to be met in such a way. And you meet, you've met me in just a divine way, and I feel truly seen and heard and understood, and that that is a really deep thing. Because, as you mentioned before, when you have a big consciousness or a body of work or something that you need to deeply express, and you're almost sitting waiting for it to be met. Because if you bring in that forcing of like, you need to understand this. This is a really good thing. It doesn't land. So I'm never, I'm very, maybe humble in and very like, very quiet around the impact of the work.

Vonne Solis  1:04:01  
 Yeah.

Allura  1:04:02  
Because it needs to be found by the individual. So your capacity to see it and reflect that there is something of value here?

Vonne Solis  1:04:09  
Oh yeah.

Allura  1:04:09  
Is just so deeply moving for me. Thank you.

Vonne Solis  1:04:13  
Oh well, well, no problem. And as you were speaking, I was just thinking, you know, now I'll be reading your book, and I'll have the awareness of your contribution, and then I can share bits of that. And that's what's so cool and so neat about meeting lots of people, or people getting our work. And you know that once you get it for another person, it's almost like a little bit of a domino effect, and, oh! And I really believe, as we heal and and raise our consciousness, expand it, I don't know, do you say raise, expand? What do you or it doesn't matter, right? Evolving. We're evolving. And I really believe, and I'm sure you do too, that this does impact and affect all of humanity. You know. So the more we can better ourselves and that, you know what? I think, that's why I just keep doing what I do, you know. Heads up audience. I'm thinking about full retiring. I just like to throw that in a little bit and have fun with it. Because also when you say things out loud, then you get to sort of say, Hmm, does that how does that feel? Well, no, keep doing, keep giving the platform to people, Vonne, and that's sort of why I'm doing what I'm doing. So I really, really appreciate our time together. I wanted to just ask you one quick question before we turn to your resources, Allura, and that is, you talk a little bit about a relationship rewrite. And I, and I just wanted to know if you could talk on that a little bit, because we've spent a lot of time throughout this episode talking about, you know, the individual and the pain and all of that stuff. But I came across this actually today. I was looking at your your bio, and I saw that, oh, relationship rewire. That's kind of cool. What do you mean by that? And how, and briefly, how can it can, how can it help people? So what you want them to know about that?

Allura  1:06:13  
Yeah, that's a really powerful process of using everybody in your life as a divine mirror to the parts of yourself that still need to be developed and evolved. So even those very complex, tricky relationships that you want to sort of separate from and say, I don't want to have anything to do with that. I want that person distant from me in some way. It's around taking the reflection of what it is around that person that you find difficult, challenging, not honouring for you, and really seeing how you have a pattern within you that creates that reflection. So that looks at where your inner boundaries are. It looks at where you have an unprocessed pattern which might which might be connected to some deeper pain. It will look to where you're experiencing a repetition of things that hurt you as a child. So what I find is everything that comes back from that mirror we can work with.

Allura  1:07:07  
And the way that looks in real life is that, just for an example. I have a beautiful woman that was very estranged from her mother. She was very much like, I don't want anything to do with her. I can't go there. And it just turned out, well, not just but it turned out there was a huge fracture from her childhood around that relationship. And we went and did some really deep work on that fracture, and she began to see that experience from an alternate perspective. She had seen that experience as abandonment, and as you know, a huge loss. But when we looked at it more closely, we could see the survival pattern of her mother. We could see what was going on for her. And we expanded consciousness around that and got to the truth of that pain. By this process, which is shifting consciousness, it's not trying to behave differently, feel differently, talk differently, put in boundaries, do anything different. Something organically shifted in the field. And her mother actually called her and said, and just said, I've been sitting with this for decades. I wonder if you'd be open to a conversation. And they came together and had a conversation that really closed a lot of that wounding and created a new level of understanding and connection. So that's just one big kind of bigger example, but it can work the same with partners, children. Anyone that has any kind of separation you have from that person? Everything can be transformed within you to change the fabric of that relationship. And I've seen whole family systems, whole communities, begin to shift under this consciousness by taking almost the responsibility for the evolution of the relationship internally first and then having it as an external expression. And it's just been amazing to witness, actually.

Vonne Solis  1:08:57  
Yeah, I actually and expand on this just for a moment before we close out with your resources. Even you know, taking the responsibility or the interest or the curiosity to sort of take the plunge and be the first one to do everything you just finished saying, use the situation, the person, whatever, as a mirror. But to take that step to go, I want to heal this within myself. It really does, it does impact the other person to do what, like this mom did. I've been sitting with this thing, you know, and something's driving her to reach out and ask, do you want to have a conversation? Right? So this the switch with the change within us, the vibration, the healing, even the reconsidering. I always say that just thinking about something differently already changes the energy of that, right? Do you agree?

Allura  1:09:51  
Yeah, absolutely.

Vonne Solis  1:09:53  
Right?

Allura  1:09:53  
Absolutely.

Vonne Solis  1:09:54  
So it so for the point I want to make is for people to not sit with the pain. Sit with the anger, sit with the resentments and all of that. If you've got a living person in front of you or within reach to really make peace with, it's it's not a bad thing to be the first one to go, is it?

Allura  1:10:15  
Exactly. No, it's not. And I think when the fear about getting close to these people is the fear, again, of our pain that we have around those those patterns. So when we go and look at that pain like that woman did? She processed through herself, independently of her mother, and that created a space. A space for her mother to show up in her humanity, in her love, in her true connection that she always already had, and always had for her daughter. But couldn't quite reach because there was this really dense pattern of separation wedging between the two of them in consciousness. So when we move that, it's just quite profound to witness. And yeah, I feel very, yeah, it's very, it's very emotional for me to just witness the gift of that, because we do not have to stay stuck and separate in any level of relationship. And when we do the work, we get connected, more connected to ourselves. So our relationship to ourself just keeps evolving, and we begin to feel more and more love just organically. It's not self-love or being loving to others. It's just the frequency of love that exists when we're not in separation from things and people and experience. We close that within, and we create this field of love. And love gets a little bit messy, but it's just a full connecting force. It's the greatest connecting force there is.

Vonne Solis  1:11:37  
Yeah. And also it's coming to me as you're talking that, especially if we're in relationships, partnerships, married, anyway, in a close any it could be parent child, anything. There's a lot of parent child estrangement in North America. I'm talking adult children. And there is even a segment of therapy that encourages it, because the parents are toxic for them, or whatever, and we even experience it in our family. So I understand how painful that can be. But everything you just finished saying, I also just want to say that when we allow this to you know, this change to occur and transform, this transformation to occur within us, it really doesn't become about what they did, what they say. their their habits. They're annoying this. They're annoying that, because when your whole response is just different? Those things just kind of go away. I don't even think you almost see them anymore. So I just wanted to put in a plug for that for all you folks stuck out there going, Nope, I'm still mad. He or she should go first, or they should go first, or, you know, whatever. No. If you want to feel better and you want to transform, you go first. Right, Allura?

Allura  1:12:44  
Yeah. No, exactly. Otherwise, you're going to it's going to keep perpetuating. And it's going to be something that keeps you in a stuck state. Even if that person's not in your life, you still have a tether that keeps that person in your life, in your system, in your emotional system. So this whole concept of, let's just cut them out, and they don't exist. That is not real. It is not valid. It does not work. You need to self-process. And then there's a organic experience where you'll either align or you will you'll not align, but when the process is done, that part's secondary. But if you're not processing, what's at the core of that separation? That person will continue to haunt you for the rest of your life, even if they're separate from you. Because there'll be a part of you that goes, that doesn't feel right. That that disconnection, on a soul core level is not aligned. We're not here to live in disconnection, in separation, in victimization, in perpetration. We're here to live in connection. So if that's not processed internally, that will be having ramifications on health, on life in general, on the whole being. So we're a whole organism. We can't walk around disconnected from humans that are supposed to be connected to us.

Vonne Solis  1:14:02  
Yep.

Allura  1:14:02  
So I'm very passionate about that inner work to get that inner shift to understand. And some people might be saying, but that person, as you said, was toxic or narcissistic or whatever. All of those traits speak to a person in the deepest levels of pain. You only exhibit that if you are feeling misunderstood, like traumatized, yourself, unheard, unloved, un undervalued in the relationship, you bring these traits forward to try to survive. So then there's a place in that. If you've received narcissistic, toxic, poisonous behaviour, what part did you play? What part did you play in not seeing, hearing and receiving this person in a way that allows them to feel the truth of where they're at and their pain? So not it's not always about, you know, us taking full responsibility. That person also has a responsibility. And I would never, ever encourage anyone to think otherwise. But there is a part to play in this that we can do. Which is very, very powerful.

Vonne Solis  1:15:11  
Yeah, we're all responsible, even as children, when you look back as an adult, if you happen to adopt the belief that you have created everything in your life from before you got here, which I cut my teeth on that decades ago. That is a huge piece in self-responsibility for all that we do, and forgiving yourself for those things you maybe did that you know maybe you wouldn't do today. We've all done things that you kind of go, yeah, maybe I wouldn't do that today. There's a reason we did it then. We don't need to do it anymore. For people that don't believe in lessons, and I have come across people that, not in my circle, but know, have read about this where they just, you know, especially in really grief, deep grief, and pain from anything, where they go, it's all malarkey that, you know, there's a lesson in this pain. No, there's not, no, there's not. That's fine. That you're entitled to whatever you believe. But we're all responsible to make our life happy, fulfilled, content, purposeful, you know, aware and as expanded as we can be, should we choose it. We all have to be responsible, in the end, for our life. So you have so many resources. Allura. If a person is just interested in hmm, I really like what I heard. Where should they go and what resources are best for them to sort of get started with your work?

Allura  1:16:41  
So I have The Consciousness Method™ podcast and on there are quite a number of master classes, but also interviews with people that have done this work to kind of feeling the impact, because it's all very well for me to say, Oh, this is really good. This is really helpful. But actually having the humans that do this work and feel the change in themselves speak to that. I think it's very more useful, and it's also useful to hear where you resonate in what you're going through. So I'm sure there'll be an experience that someone's had that we've worked through, that will, that will resonate on some level. So the podcast. Of course, the book. In front of the book is a QR code, and if you click on that QR code, you can receive the emails and the resources that are available there. And then, I would say, on my website, you can explore joining the evolution package, which is a six month journey through quantum consciousness to have daily support five days a week. I'm online to support everyone that needs support, and so the community comes on. People share where they're at live, exactly what's going on. So whether you're you've been triggered that day. Whether you're processing one of these big relationship experiences. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed by something, stuck in something daily. We're just shifting that fractal, shifting that that experience internally and the community is all working through the processes of The Consciousness Method™ and showing up for those calls as they can. It's five days a week. People drop in one day, three days, four days. Everyone listens to the recordings, because there's so much gold, everyone tells me. So that's a really powerful place to join in, into, in with the work.

Vonne Solis  1:18:32  
That's huge. That is a lot. And so I'm hearing that you have a community that you are engaged with supporting, and that is truly a gift, again, to others. Because I don't, I don't know how many people have the time to do that, and are that invested. So, I mean, that's rare I think, and what a treasure. So you are in Australia, and so you do have an international reach. So you can connect with Allura from wherever you are in the world, and that's also just beautiful. And then I always believe that once we dip our toe in, the teachers are there, the resources are there, the knowledge becomes available, and it will always take us where we need to go.

Vonne Solis  1:19:16  
I'm going to close this off with just saying I also read from I think it was your book description on Amazon that they were saying that this book is a breakthrough. Taking people from pain to all that is possible. Mapping the terrain from wounded to wholeness, and placing. And then I'm going like placing. I see you as placing the map in every individual's hands who choose to embark on this journey. And so we're talking about, are you talking sort of about the map of consciousness here? Yeah. And so that is just such a beautiful way of thinking about how you've gone out. You were summoned to the work. It, as you said in the beginning of this podcast, you know, it took enormous effort for you to understand what you were being called to do. You know, you traversed the terrain. You established The Consciousness Method™. You're sharing and absolutely I can see the dedication and hear it in you, dedicated to helping countless others in their pursuit. Handing off, well, here's what I love, handing off the map so that they can go and pursue the terrain from wounded to wholeness. And that just actually gave me chills. So I love that. And I don't think there's a better way to kind of leave this episode and get people thinking and, you know, just again sort of describe the enormity of what you're doing and how appreciative I am that you're on the planet and that we connected. So thank you for being here.

Allura  1:20:52  
Me too. Thank you, Vonne, for an incredibly inspiring conversation. You're an absolute gift in this space. I'm so grateful. Thank you.

Vonne Solis  1:21:02  
Yeah. You're welcome.