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Blockbuster MORTAL KOMBAT 2 actor Ana Thu Nguyen talks becoming QUEEN SINDEL in beloved movie / game lore. Enjoy our deep dive discussion on the popular character, reactions from fans, on set memories, artistic ambitions including what's coming up in her wonderous career. Ana was in the excellent dinosaur/military hybrid adventure, Primitive War.
MORTAL KOMBAT 2 also with Karl Urban, Jessica McNamee, Josh Lawson, Tati Gabrielle, Damon Herriman, Hiroyuki Sanada, Adeline Rudolph. Filmed at Warner Bros Australia
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Uh yes, that is a little bit of uh George S. Clinton, Lou versus Katana. That is a piece of music from the nineteen ninety-five Mortal Kombat movie. And thank you for joining me on another edition of Cine Critique. My name is Shane A. Bassett. You can find me at movie underscore analyst. You can hear me on the radio, see me on a TV occasionally. My YouTube channel is also movie analyst Shane Adam Bassett. And today on Cine Critique, you are in for a treat. You are going to get to hear my conversation with a lovely actor who was in the new Mortal Kombat movie. Mortal Kombat 2. Queen Sandel, the mum of Katana. Very much popular in the Mortal Kombat lore. And uh look, beautiful actress, very talented and versatile. You might remember her from Primitive War. That film was outstanding. It did business all around the world. People took notice of that excellent Vietnam War dinosaur film. And uh now that Mortal Kombat 2 is unleashed around the world, I'm sure more people are gonna see Anna in full force. You wanna know what makes a hero?
SPEAKER_01It's not destiny, it's not something you're born with. It's searching for greatness. You have been chosen for more. Then realizing it has it in you.
SPEAKER_00Get there fast and watch it on the biggest screen you possibly can. Uh look, some of the co-cast colleagues of Ana in this film include Tati Gabriel, Carl Urban, of course, Johnny Cage, who didn't appear in that uh Mortal Kombat movie from 2021. Jessica McNamee's back Josh Lawson, among others. It's an international cast and lots of Australians, because it was made in Australia, in Queensland, at Warner Brothers Movie World. Probably among a few other little spots here and there too. But let me introduce you to Anna and your Queen Dale. Enjoy our conversation.
SPEAKER_02Hey Shane, thank you so much for having me on. It's so nice to speak to you again. I think the last time was primitive war at in August, perhaps?
SPEAKER_00Uh I think it has been that long. I think it was around August. And I mean, a lot's come of your career since then, but I predicted it. I knew you'd just be going off.
SPEAKER_02You're too kind. You really are.
SPEAKER_00Uh firstly, I've got to talk about the the two premiers that you went to. There was Sydney and then there was the Gold Coast. Obviously, the movie Mortal Kombat 2 was filmed on the Gold Coast. Uh, your fashions. You were a beautiful beautiful woman in red in Sydney. And then was it it was like gold or a gold colour, uh sort of a lighter colour?
SPEAKER_02It was yeah, it was a lovely gold um dress from Beckon Bridge. And the red dress was from age. So they're both Australian designers, which I just really wanted to um wear Australian designer brands uh just to celebrate, you know, the movie was made here in Australia.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So um yeah, that's why I decided to wear those two beautiful dresses.
SPEAKER_00Well, they worked. You would have fit right in on the Met Gala red carpet, I reckon. Let's manifest that. Maybe one day and then you can have a matching headpiece or something, you know, a traditional Vietnamese headpiece or something.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yeah, for sure. Um I well I did wear a traditional al yay mixed with some modern twists for the LA premiere, actually.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um I don't know if you saw that, but it was a purple al yay, which is one of the um traditional uh Vietnamese dresses.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02And it was made by my beautiful Vietnamese American designer friend Tying.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02And it was a homage to my culture, but also to Sindel because of the color purple.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I think I saw you in that in some photos, but uh I was unaware that it had a traditional side of it as well to your heritage. That's great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, it was definitely a mix between um well, yeah, a nod to Vietnam and a nod to Mortal Kombat. So I mean I felt like I just had to do it because it was the big LA fan screening, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh we'll get to the fans shortly because I know it's I think it's a fan driven movie in many cases. Uh but I think I met you, well, I saw your parents who were on the carpet for Primitive War. Um yeah, I l I love that. That um how what do they think of you in Mortal Kombat 2? Have they watched that yet?
SPEAKER_02Oh, they're the biggest fans. They're a bit like they've been cheering me on. I actually brought them to the Mortal Kombat set when we uh I think the last week of filming, it was both of their birthdays, so I flew them up, and then um they attended the uh the rap party as well. So my parents had been there from day one of Mortal Kombat, and then my mum flew with me to the LA fan screening. That was the second time she's seen it because she also went to see with me when I saw a a preview of it.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02Um in just one of the smaller preview screenings. And then my extended family came on Sid uh came to the Sydney premiere on Monday.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02So they've been they've been all over it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I can't believe this is great. And and was their birthdays and they were on set. Have they got like the same day birthday or is it close?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's very close.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02The 18th and the 22nd of January. So I just thought, okay, why not? Just buy them up, surprise them for it, and it to them it was it was the best. It was the best birthday that they've ever had.
SPEAKER_00Well, I saw how excited they were for Priminal War. I can only imagine the response for Mortal Kombat 2.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, my dad's just been he's been online scouring every comment.
SPEAKER_03Oh really.
SPEAKER_02Um and sometimes sometimes if if he comes across, you know, a comment, he'll he'll even just reply back to them and I'm like, oh no, it's okay, you don't have to do that.
SPEAKER_00That's dedication to his daughter. That is so cool. Yeah. And and funnily enough, my birthday is January the twenty-first. So Oh well, in between the two.
SPEAKER_02I'm I'm never gonna forget that.
SPEAKER_00Well, thank you. Right on the first day of Aquarius. Oh. Uh also we spoke about the fashions, but what about Cindell's costumes? Like, were they made for comfort? Were they heavy? Like, what was it like wearing those?
SPEAKER_02Oh, those those costumes were so beautifully designed by yeah, so detailed, so vibrant, especially all of the costumes that the Adenians wore. And uh I don't know, every time I wore it just transported me to Adenia and it trans it and it really helped to bring out the character. Um in terms of comfort, maybe it wasn't as comfortable as I would have liked to fight uh fight in, um, because it did consist of a core set.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02But you know, it's just what we had to it's just what we have to live with, and I'm not complaining because in the end it worked out perfectly and it looked amazing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it looked fantastic. The details on everybody's costumes just blended so well, and you wouldn't know that it was a little bit uncomfortable because your fight moves were pretty classy, they were pretty good.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, thank you. It just they the costumes really shone. It the colours are just so vibrant, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh, totally. It popped off the screen. Um, that was part of many of the things in the film that I liked because I'm not a big gamer at all, but I really enjoyed the movie a lot more than I expected.
SPEAKER_02Oh, thank you. I think that's what's so great about this movie. You can you can sit there and just it's fun. You can go along for the ride, you don't really have to know too much about it. Um just enjoy the fights and feel squeamish when the blood and the guts pour out and gasp and but it's a very it's a very universal film.
SPEAKER_00Totally diverse as well. Like I I really enjoy that part of it. Um and the characters. Um I think I mean we couldn't really talk about it back at the primitive war carpet because it hadn't come out yet, obviously. But are you up on the lore and the traditions of Mortal Kombat itself or or seen the previous movies?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've seen the previous movie for sure. I actually auditioned for the previous movie.
SPEAKER_00Did you? Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I auditioned for Mortal Kombat 1 and was so devastated that I didn't get in because for some reason after back then when I auditioned for it, I had this strong feeling that I would be a part of the Mortal Kombat universe.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_02Yes. And then when I didn't get it, I was like, oh okay, well, I'm never trusting my instincts ever again. But then it came around the second time, and I I guess at that second point I just let go of any attachment, gave the audition the best that I could because I loved the character and I just loved the world. I love anything fantasy. So and I grew up with fighting games. So I just gave it the love and the passion that I had for it and detached myself from the results and six weeks later I got the call back.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_02And then did the call back, and that afternoon my agents called me and said that I booked to the role. Which was insane how fast it turned over.
SPEAKER_00That is a quick turnaround.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was so quick. I thought that it it would take weeks. Uh so straight after I just went out to see some friends so that I didn't ever I didn't have to think about it anymore. And then yeah, they called me as I was driving, and as usual, you just freak out when your agents call you thinking the worst possible. They're saying, Hey, pull over, we just have something to tell you. I'm like, okay, this this sounds like it's gonna be really bad news. Did I did I throw up that badly? And then they broke the news to me. I was like, What? Are you kidding me? I just did this six hours ago. My life changed.
SPEAKER_00It it has, and I bet it did in your mind that straight away it just clicked because I mean, did Simon remember you, the director Simon or the casting director? Did they remember you from the first audition or anything like that? Has it come up?
SPEAKER_02I'm not sure. I never actually asked that, but I think the casting yeah, the casting director of the first one and the second one was different. Okay. So um uh oh, sorry, he's some casting still works on it this time around, but when I did it for Mortal Kombat 2, I received the audition through the US casting side. So Richard Elia. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well that's more pressure, really, when you think about that coming from the US as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, coming from the US and then doing the callback through the US. It it was it was insane. It was just such like a dream come true and and then now I'm here. It's three years later.
SPEAKER_00All I can say is correct congratulations and you deserve it, Arna. You you know that deep down, and I think your fans and your family know that too. The hard work.
SPEAKER_02Well, thank you so much. Thank you, Shane. That means that means so much. That means a lot for me.
SPEAKER_00Uh what about injuries? Did you did you get any injuries or suffer any aches and pains while you were on on set?
SPEAKER_02No injuries, luckily, but my god, did I offer uh did I suffer aches and pains? Because we were training for six weeks straight for rehearsals. And then when you go into it, you're giving it your all, and when you have time off, it's not really time off, we're going to the gym, I'm rehearsing extra, extra things, learning different um styles of martial arts just to just to keep warm and then on the big day, you yeah, you you just have to give it so much. I remember finishing uh the last day of the stunt and waking up in the morning and I couldn't lift up my head because my neck was so sore. I did not have the strength to lift it up. But um, I mean you you would understand why after seeing the movies.
SPEAKER_00Of course. No, no, no, I totally understand why.
SPEAKER_02You know the part that I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_00I I do, yeah, we're not spoiling it, but I know exactly what you're talking about. And yeah, it's yeah, it's a double-edged sword almost, right? Because uh, yeah, very much so. Uh but when you're an actor training, do do the trainers take it a little bit more easier on you or is it harder because they are thinking, Oh, they're only actors, we're gonna work them hard. Uh how does it work?
SPEAKER_02I think it's I think it's a little bit of both.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02Because uh the first part is I guess an assessment of where your skills lie so that they can understand where it is. And then after that, because we're actors and we really just want to do the best job it's possible, we put so much of ourselves into it and and they and I think the stunt team they see that and they understand and we want to push ourselves so they push us too, um, to a safe extent, of course. But after they've assessed our abilities, yeah, they're just like go for it.
SPEAKER_00Uh Katana's mum is your you know, your character, Cindell, but is that does that make it more pressure for you a little bit with the fans because it is such an important role or or not really? You just went into it um full on as you would any any kind of role that you take.
SPEAKER_02I think there is a huge amount of pressure, maybe m me putting it on myself to be honest, but she's iconic, you know, Cindell is a huge part of the games, and so many people love love her, and she's a lot of people's names in the games, and everyone has their own opinion when it comes to adaptations or their own image of what a character looks like or how a character behaves. So yeah, I'd I'd be lying if I didn't say that I was I wasn't scared when I first started, you know. I was I was terrified because I really wanted to honor the character and honor it for the fans who love her so much. But in order to do that, I really had to approach her from a place of authenticity within myself. So just looking at what her characteristics are and then looking at the script and then obviously looking at the games and drawing and finding what I could draw from within myself in order to give her that space and that grounding in reality.
SPEAKER_00So you actually gave it several layers to build up this character.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure. Um I think for a character so complex and so loved, you really do have to build in those layers bit by bit because otherwise it would just be a one-dimensional character. And she has Cindella has has so much going on. She has so much love for her daughter Katana, she has so much love for King Jared, her husband, her realm, and her people, but overlaid on top of that is the incredible trag tragedy of what happened to her. And in order to really really portray that, I had to Yeah, I had to step into the complexity of it all.
SPEAKER_00And I found it it sounded like you, Anna, but not sounded like you. Did you put in like any any different tones and and so forth into your into your voice?
SPEAKER_02Yes, for sure, I did. I um so I trained with a vocal coach.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so that detailed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, I trained with a vocal coach to find a a different placement because she is so powerful, yeah. Her voice is much more grounded. Um so that was an extra layer that I used to to really develop her character and her voice or her screen, shall we say, is so integral to who she is.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Yes.
SPEAKER_02So I really wanted to get that part of it right. And um, I guess when she becomes the revenant, which isn't really spoiling it because it's all it's already all over the internet.
SPEAKER_00Of course, which which sucks because you know, not everyone knows that, right? But now they do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, but you know, it's in the post and everything, so everyone knows that.
SPEAKER_00True.
SPEAKER_02Um, her voice changes again.
SPEAKER_00It does. Yeah, and that's why that's why I asked. Because it's it's it's different. I knew what I could I could close my eyes and know it was you, but it's still not you, and that's what I like.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, the sound design was amazing. So they put on extra effects for all the revenants, so that it just sounds like slightly off-kilter, otherworldly, not quite human.
SPEAKER_00What about being on on the actual set? Do you do you remember walking in and looking around for the first time? It just must have been huge.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the sets were amazing. Um, Adinya was such a huge set. They built the entire the it was it was all built. It I didn't imagine. I couldn't imagine how Yeah, it was all physically built. Walking along in that village, it felt like it felt like I was transparent. To another realm.
SPEAKER_01And multiple sound stages were used too. I think we had maybe one, two, three, four, like five or six sound stages.
SPEAKER_00That's when you that's when you know it's well, that's when you know it's a big production. Multiple sound stages.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so many sound stages uh to replicate all the the fighting stages that that we that that was in the movie. Uh, but I think I didn't really understand the magnitude of of it all until I stepped onto that.
SPEAKER_00Did you take it all in or was it just too I mean you you're describing it to me now, but do you actually as an actor take it all in and and really use it to as motivation as well?
SPEAKER_02Yes. I very much use the set as motivation to get into character. So I did spend a lot of time before even filming, walking around on set, touching the materials, touching, you know, the walls, um the things that are displayed there, just looking around and making it feel like home. Because the characters live there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It it has to feel like you're not out of place. So I very much use the set in my preparation to help me get into character.
SPEAKER_00Do you have anything on on you or do you take things to set that you have to have? Are you superstitious? Is there any item that you need to have with you uh when you're on a film project or not really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I do. I have this little pink uh rose quartz. It's tiny, this little pink rose quartz um cinch that I have that I always bring, and it's very small, so I hope that I don't lose it one day, but it fits in my pocket.
SPEAKER_00You can put it into little places and pockets and things in it, you can't notice it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, you can't no notice it because it's not bulgy or anything. But y if I ever have a moment where I need to ground myself, it's just something about the stone and the the finch, like the bird, that it just grounds me and pulls me out of my head. So I like to have that with me whenever I go and set to act.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's cool to know. I'll always remember that and I'll I'll ask it about it in the future where it is. Yeah. I'll show it to you one day. Yeah, I'd love to see it. That that's really cool. Uh not only have you got like cool co-stars in this, you know, a lot of Aussies and and international, na international, like really good cast quality cast members, but I mean, them I think they'd be a lot of fun too, right? Does anyone stand out in your cast members that you had a lot of fun with on set?
SPEAKER_02Oh gosh. This cast, I will say this with absolute certainty, they are the best cast. We are so close to each other. We have a group chat filled with just so much love for the film, and we're each other's biggest, biggest fans.
SPEAKER_00Um, just because what we've made is just is so well it's in something unique and important too to a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's so important to a lot of people, and we really, really wanted to please the fans who are the reason why we're here. But the cast is just yeah, so full of love and passion for what they do. I don't know if there's one person that would stand out because everyone is so unique and beautiful um in in their own way, and we all call each other family.
SPEAKER_00I think the tr the yeah, it's the chemistry on screen is is kind of obvious, but then having spoken to uh Josh and Jessica and uh Carl and and Simon and and some other cast members of yours, they just everyone's glowing uh and I really love what they've done with this film.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, everyone has. There is there's just so much energy around it. Um I'm very grateful to be a part of it and to have worked with with such talented, kind, and generous people.
SPEAKER_00Were there any scenes that you did that didn't make it into the final uh cut or everything that you you know you filmed made it?
SPEAKER_02Yes, actually there was one one scene that wasn't originally in the script, but then when we came back after the strike to shoot, they just wanted I guess a a little bit of an alternative ending, but then they they went they decided not to do that.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02So um there was just one, but it was it was a very small moment, but everything else was everything else that was originally scripted, yep, that I was in was um that it made it into the movie, though maybe some scenes might have been a little shorter because um because of the strike.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, of course. No I was just wondering if we'll ever see some deleted scenes, you know, on a on a special edition Blu-ray or something.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I don't know actually. Never know. Yeah, maybe. I'll have to buy the Blu-ray and check it out myself.
SPEAKER_00I'll let you know. I'll be adding it to my collection. But I want to see it again in the cinema. Like uh at well, I saw it in IMAX, which is definitely the place really to experience it on the biggest screen you can find, at least.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, no, that's that's the best place to see it. It's like the image is just so crisp and like you like you said before, the the colours, the cinematography, it's just so vibrant. I think you definitely need to see a movie like this in IMAX because it's just the most epic screen there is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I totally agree. And are you doing any producing or any more um behind the scenes work on anything? Any shorts or features or writing, maybe? What do you got coming up?
SPEAKER_02Actually, at the moment I'm um uh with my producing partner. We're starting uh the research phase of a uh feature film about a Vietnamese, this amazing Vietnamese Australian woman who just had undergone so much tragedy to be able to uh reach incredible heights in her life.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02I don't know how much I can say without uh sure, okay. Without, you know, spoiling the movie, but she came from uh she came by boat after the Vietnam War to Australia when she was only 14, 15 and uh without learning the like without knowing the language, without knowing anything, got into medicine and then just has done incredible things with her life that we really, really want to ex explore and um and yeah, just tell the world her story. So we we're just starting on that at the moment, which is very, very exciting.
SPEAKER_00Well, anything you're involved in, as you know, I'm I'm in, you sign me up, I'll be watching it and and getting but uh it such sounds so much more grounded than Mortal Kombat, and um you know you need that in your acting life, you know, you need to change it up, I think, and that sounds like a really incredible story.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I've done a lot of uh I guess more surreal type genres, uh for example Mortal Kombat and then Primitive War, which uh was one where we met, and then also uh Dead Eyes, which is the one that went into South by Southwest just uh a month ago. So that's a horror. So working on something that is really grounded in reality and just celebrating the strengths of of an incredible woman is something that is definitely on my my book. So I am all for getting this movie made.
SPEAKER_00Good stuff. Well, if any I can help you with anything, you know, just reach out and I'll you know, I've got connections, I visit sets, I talk to people in the industry, so you never know. If you've got any questions, please don't hesitate.
SPEAKER_02Oh, thank you so much, Shane. That's so lovely of you to say. Thank you. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00You're welcome, of course. And now to wrap it up, the fans, Mortal Kombat fans, you have you've been interacting, you've been hearing their comments, uh, have you been getting m messages? What tell me about the fans? How's it been the reaction so far for Mortal Kombat 2 and you and your role?
SPEAKER_02The fans have been insane, they are incredible. I yeah, my gosh, they're just so passionate about the franchise, but just such lovely and supportive people. And attending these fan screenings, I'm just so in awe of their creativity because they rock up with handmade costumes and cosplay that are just amazing. It's so talented that spent weeks doing it. So I'm just yeah, very in awe of the fans, and I've I've just heard nothing but great things from them. I think they they really appreciate how much passion the team have put into making this, and they're loving the fights, they're loving the the brutal fatalities.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, I I I feel like the response has been amazing, and I'm just so so lucky to be a part of this fandom.
SPEAKER_00I'm really happy to hear that. And you're right about the dazzling details and the costumes that they make and the dedication. So yeah, to he to for you to hear that first hand and then see what their work they've put into it, because they're so you know insanely keen on the franchise and the law on the lore, it must make you really happy. That's good to hear.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it made me so happy. And when I was attending the LA fan screening, I I was just thinking in my mind, you know, all these people will rock up and they're gonna show up in their favorite characters. They're gonna dress up. So I need to show up as well, and I'm gonna show up to pay homage to my character, Cindell. So that's you know, that's why I did it because they're putting in so much effort. I need to do the same thing.
SPEAKER_00You'll also be able to go to any convention now around the world and have people wanting to meet you, I would say.
SPEAKER_02That would be that's these going to these conventions sounds so like so much fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I I can't wait.
SPEAKER_02I can't wait to meet these fans.
SPEAKER_00And the final question I've been putting to your fellow cast members, uh, you know, it's a bit of fun, but fighting is kind of it's a choreography, it's kind of like dancing. Would you like to see maybe a Mortal Kombat the musical being Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02What? That is insane, of course.
SPEAKER_00That would be so great. Well, so many contemporary shows and movies and so forth get turned into stage shows, right? And yeah, Mortal Kombat the musical. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'll be there, you know? You and I say we'll be there.
SPEAKER_00Don, I I just thought this would be a great idea and why not? There'd be fans lining up, you never know, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, there you have it, Anya too. And what a lovely person she is, so dedicated to this role. And if you haven't seen her in Primitive War, I do suggest that. And you know what? Uh there was a little role that she had in a little television show called One Night that was great. And also one episode of NCIS Sydney if you happen to watch that franchise of shows NCIS uh Deadey is a movie that's coming out soon, and maybe I'll talk to her again about that when it's finally released because uh yeah, South by Southwest. I think it had its premiere there and it's showing at a few other film festivals, Deadey. So looking forward to seeing that one myself. Hope you enjoyed our conversation. Totally hope that Arna won you over and uh go see Mortal Kombat 2. I thought it was pretty good. Like I said, much better than expected. And Primitive War, take that one out too. My name is JNA Bastard at movie underscore analyst if you can find me. And until next time on screening quick I'll see you at the movie. Thanks again for your support.