Game Changers Podcast with Quinn St. Juste
Game Changers Podcast with Quinn St. Juste
Marz Zerogravity's RISE FROM TRINIDAD STREETS TO DINING WITH JA RULE!
Ever wondered how a dancer from Paradise Heights, Mova, could grace the world stage with iconic artists like Rihanna and Drake? Mars, known as Zero Gravity, is here to share his extraordinary journey. From his early days inspired by dance movies and school discos to navigating a challenging environment with the support of his mother, Mars found a powerful escape and purpose through dance. His story is a testament to the strength of staying true to one's roots and the determination to rise above circumstances.
Mars opens up about the tightrope walk between academic pursuits and unexpected big breaks in the entertainment industry. Imagine getting a call to join Machel Montano's dance crew in the middle of a ballet class! Balancing this with his studies, thanks to the GATE program, Mars recounts the whirlwind of his first carnival season in 2015. Sleepless nights, health challenges, and academic pressures could have derailed his dreams, but they fueled his passion even more as he learned to juggle it all.
The arts scene in the Caribbean posed its own set of challenges, leading Mars to seek better opportunities in Toronto. His aspirations for generational wealth and admiration for figures like The Flash and Jay-Z reflect his drive for a fulfilling life. Mars’ encounters with celebrities such as Ashanti and Director X have not just been career milestones but life-affirming moments that keep him hungry for success. Tune in to absorb Mars' insights on embracing change and pursuing one's dreams with unyielding tenacity.
Hello everybody and welcome to a special episode of the Game Changers podcast. My name is Quinn St. Juste and it's a privilege and pleasure to be here with you, as usual. You know, dance is a real art form of expression and my next guest is so expressive that you'll really, really want to listen to him. He has shared the stage with some of the biggest names in art and entertainment, but if you understand and hear his humble beginnings, you'll really get the idea of the man. His name is Mars and I'm so privileged to have this amazing conversation with him. Yo Mars, how are you doing, man? Yo yo Quinn, good to be glad to be on the inside you know, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:Glad to have you on the inside. Ah, big up, big up. All right, bro. So for my audience, who might not know who you are, just let them know a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2:General information what's up, everybody? It's your boy mars. Zero gravity, or aka zero gravity. I am a trinidad and tobago um born creative and body creativity in all its forms and fashion. I'm a dancer by profession, choreographer by profession, hailing from Mova, trinidad and Tobago, more specifically, paradise Heights, big Up Ph. Because I like to you know, I like to you know you could never know where you're going if you forget where you're coming from For sure. So yeah, I'm a dancer for Marshall Montano, stunt performer for the NBA, dancer for the Canadian Football League and overall creative director and certified personal trainer, fitness and health as well.
Speaker 1:Beautiful, beautiful Love. That already man. Love that energy, already man. You don't know. All right, so let's start at the very beginning. When did you realize that you had a passion for dance, and how did your caribbean upbringing help shape your love for performing?
Speaker 2:oh man, I think, um, it was, it was stump, it was stump the yard, stump the yard and step up and on, all those dance movies. For me, you know those things as a kid really, um, put it in my heart and I used to watch them. Be like, hey, I want to do that, I want to be like those guys. You know, um, and it just transformed into me. You know, practicing, practicing in front of the mirror, and you know, hey, moms, watch this movie, I like this movie. Do Boston, level 1, 2, something like that. Right, right, right In Trinidad, in our primary schools we have a thing called disco.
Speaker 2:We used to do it in October and sometimes in December as as well, where it's like, just a celebration at the school, here and in the disco is like a dance. So I used to take that as an opportunity to show off some of the moves I used to be practicing at home now. But it really started at a primary school level where people used to rate it and be like, hey, that kind of cool, you know. And it was only until, like in secondary school, to the talent show. When I was later, later on in secondary school, um, and I entered the talent show. I didn't come first, I come second, but I was a part of the team that came first as well.
Speaker 2:Um, and that's when I tell myself you know, I, I love my academics, I'm a smart guy, but I would rather stack my textbooks up, stand up on it and flip over them. You understand, and from that you know my mother, my mother, I big up my mother because that's my rock, surely and surely, as I get to youth, and she, her entire life, really tried to stay away from the streets. Now, boy and dance was the medium that kept me off the streets. Beautiful, that's basically it. And now you know, get to travel the world and be around people I never thought I'd be around in my life.
Speaker 1:For sure, for sure, big stage. But you came from humble beginnings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man I am from. I don't. I don't like to downplay the ghetto, I don't like to downplay what it is and and and and the talent that is hidden there. Um, you know, like I talking about the government cutting off water in my community so that um uptown could always have water flowing. I talking about, um, not knowing where my next meal gonna come from in our household with 10 other family members, you understand I talking about you're hearing the pop, pop, pop and you had a duck. You know, you don't know, kabo, let's get on your eye. You know, um.
Speaker 2:But but honestly, my main, my main thing in life was to climb out and I had to get out of that. I didn't see a future there and you know, I would say, for even even the youth that live in here today, even the people and I have a lot of friends that end up in the jail system, that end up losing their lives because I can, I was prime example for me to not want to be a part of that process. Now, you see what 25 is old age. In my hood, a lot of men don't see past 25. You understand.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, boy, it's so. I see that you utilize dance to elevate yourself, right, but, of course, when did you decide to truly take it on professionally, and what was the motivation for that? Um?
Speaker 2:rich life ability. You know you want to be like the people you're seeing on tv. Um, and a big part of that process was as soon as I finished secondary school was to find the nearest dance studio that reflected my views, um, as a performer, which, again, I looking at these people on tv and I want to be like that, right. So you know, I found the nearest commercial dance company that was aligned with what I wanted to do and it just so happened to be the dance company that was owned by one of Marshall's dancers at the time it's actually his choreographer and I kind of sent myself around there. And it's funny how I ended up there because, as a man, in my free time after I finished school, whereas everybody was going to study and stuff like that, I was going to the gyms that had the crash mats. I was out in the savannah flipping and doing all kind of madness. Um, outside, like across the road from the university that I went, had like a field and used to go there and link up a couple of other like-minded individuals to come and train and let me just go and link up here and do like a hundred backflips for the day, and it's from there, um, one of the dancers from that dance company was passing one of the dance teachers and he was like, hey, I have a dance crew, come on, join my dance crew now. And I ended up joining the dance crew because that is the men that I used to see on my local television doing the dance where I wanted another um. And in that process of dancing with them, he was pulling himself away because he was taking more of a professional route with his dance career at the time. His name is um, is shakir gifford tobo, aka tobo um. You know he was like come on, do my dance hall class. And I was like, well, you know, my finance is not really there. Yeah, I really come from a space where I could ask my mother for money and say I need to come to this dance class now. He's like that's small thing. Come and he let me do a couple of classes for free.
Speaker 2:And that was the first time I put myself in a studio space and I and I sat off in the back of the class and I used to watch the girls and the fellas in the front of the class. I'd be like damn, trying to be like them and I just just gave me the opportunity to hone my skills. And then it was in dance hall. That was like the first style of dance I really started doing doing um. And then I used to pick up the hip-hop class that was after the dance hall class, tell myself, I want to be in that class too. And I did the same.
Speaker 2:Fellow tobo pulled me in and introduced me to the hip-hop dance teacher and he was like, show him what you could do. And I was like, well, what you could mean? What you mean by that? Because all the other students in the class there too just just make a big space number and I'd be like, oh, let's spotlight thing. But I saw that as a golden opportunity again show up, to show off a little bit.
Speaker 2:And I went crazy. I went ham, and the hip-hop teacher then saw the potential in my nose, so he gave me. And the hip hop teacher then saw the potential in my house, so he gave me. He told me to come to the classes too and then from there I was at the back of the class and eventually in the front of the class. And I still remember that day where he realized I was standing up in front of the class and he smiled at me and I looked at him and I shook my head and I was like yeah, and then from that moment he gave me a gig and I do my first gig with them and I make my first little piece of change, you know, but it was for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2:It was for five hundred dollars. And I, dog, I run home with that money and I say mom, look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, and she's like where you get that from. I say, well, I just do a gig. She's like you can make money from that. I say well, yeah, because you certainly ask my questions like how I'm going to undermine our family as a dancer.
Speaker 1:Right, right right.
Speaker 2:Doctor, lawyer, engineer. That's where the money is now, boy, and at that moment I kind of set myself degree in. There's what I want to do for the rest of my life. I want to find stability in it now.
Speaker 1:The rest is history from there, you know beautiful so I'm seeing that the dance company really shaped you, you know, into the person as you are today and also seeing the opportunities shaped you into the person that you are today yeah, it was this.
Speaker 2:It was either that or this, shit, you know.
Speaker 2:So I didn't have much of a choice um again, whereas I I seen friends on the news being found off ravine and, you know, brutally murdered and things like that fellas I kick in ball with every day on the streets and thing that choosing that route.
Speaker 2:Now, boy, um, they got espionage shit love until two, because that's where I really used to go and hang out and I grew up with some of them with with them fellas and I'm down there, kyle and jimari and kyle and them fellas and I'm kind of I grew up with them fellas. Now, boy and um, I had reached out a pivotal point where I was like, you know, I could either do this every day, um, my main bridging was to line with down there. Parents had own a house and all them thing already now. So he kind of already had his future kind of line up for him, right, as opposed to me who don't really didn't really have those things now. So I had to like create a space for me to get those things. So when they realized, I started to pull away from them and I started to spend more time in the studio, no animosity, they supported it and they still support it to this day, you know beautiful.
Speaker 1:So I can see that you know and that's important right to have friends like that, who see you elevate and don't see bad mind and don't want to pull you down, but actually want you to go ahead, even if you're going ahead further than them in some cases yeah, of course, and I had an uncle too.
Speaker 2:I had an uncle that was in badness and I don't really talk about this too, but you know I had an uncle in badness. I used to tell the fellas on him lee, he, he making better for himself, right, don't meddle with that. I fully meddle with that. Only messing with me, you know, and and and it's all them, them little aspects of support by having a strong mother willing to see the future in what I doing and how it would benefit her in the long run and it it really benefited her now because she comfortable right yeah, yeah, but but the aspects of having a good support system.
Speaker 2:I would say that's what kind of differentiate that differentiated me from from my peers at the time, because a lot of them did not have a strong support system, whether it be friends or family. Um, whatever the case may be, maybe now, boy and I actually made a post about that recently um, I was in dubai two weeks ago, um, sandboarding down the dunes in the desert, and I sent out a message and I was just speaking from my heart and I was saying, fellas, just put down the numbers and put down the badness and pick up something positive. It doesn't even have to be through your talent. Find something where you're like and I guarantee, if you spend time honing that skill, the opportunities will come. God, don't miss energy, don't miss. You know what I'm saying. You set a paper path and the path will line up itself. Now, boy, you know, I never in a million years thought I would be riding camel in Dubai and eating fine dining in Dubai and all kinds of crazy things. You know For sure.
Speaker 1:For sure, and you know I'm eating fine dining, fine dining in dubai and all kind of crazy, right? You know, for sure, for sure, and you know, speaking about seizing the opportunity, in about 2014, at least according to my research, you would have joined marshall's team or his Dan team.
Speaker 2:Opportunity of a lifetime. I was actually the same university that I used to flip Outside of Hardwood.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And, obviously, it was Auditions For a degree In dance and In Trinidad, they had a thing Called GATE. At the time, it was 100% funding, right. They had a thing Called Vision 2020, where they decided To give opportunity to everyone in my generation to get educated, and I feel that you're like um to give back to the economy or be an economic contributor, um, and so two-story education was 100 percent funded at the time. Once you come from a specific household, like a low-income household, um, and I came from a low-income household, so a free dance degree to me, you handing me a 4.0 gpa for free, right?
Speaker 2:all right so I went on an audition and I was going through the process and I was getting screen trainers. I dance, I talking about, I come from the streets, from the from, from the ghetto, and I do now dance degrees. So first and foremost, my peers and I are much in a little funny, little shaky Right and so I had to do ballet, I had to do contemporary, I had to do Caribbean folk, east Indian classical, but I don't have a bias to dance. Even the fellows from my dance crew is like how you can go and do them things now and I was like that's the difference between you and I.
Speaker 2:You like to dance, I love to dance, right, I love to do something. I can't, but I I had to say I ain't gonna do that because it's so, so, so, so. So if that's what I had to do and it aligns with the passions that I want, um, in life, I'll do it. So I'm trying to do the degree and the degree was four years and in the third year graduation was 2016. But I got a call in the middle of that same ballet class. Man was talking about shaky and I called yeah, they must. Though, yeah, who's this? They, they marshal montana. Yeah, who's this? They're marshall montana. Wow, in the middle of the class. And I paused that call and I turned to the car. I I run, you had a run behind the mirror to take a phone call and I realized my phone was real buzzing, all right. So I run off the bar and I pick up the phone and I walk up to the teacher and I was like what happened happened? I said nancy, miss, mrs, I have a phone call, a very important phone call, and she make a comment and she was like if that's not god on the phone, I ain't gonna let you take that call and I said it's not god, but it's, it's, it's the monk, right, big, big, big say, okay, go outside and take the call. And it was. It was along the lines of our three fellas are looking far forth to match the energy of the fellas and you came recommended through Turbo who, from the same dance hall class, has always been our matter in my life. Right Um recommend much to the dance company. Um, he would also consult his, his, his dancer that owned the dance company at the time. He was stepping out, stepping out of his team to step into more, more goals that aligned with her life. Um, so it had little gaps to fill and he was looking to fill those gaps. And I got the opportunity of a lifetime to be, you know, one of the fellas now, boy, and it started off through I did bazoodi, his movie. Um, don't go on the film. In that movie please only have it, um. And in bazoodi he was like I like your vibes, it it lining up.
Speaker 2:Come on, do a carnival season with me, and 2015 was my first carnival season and remember from doing the degree and getting little opportunities to to perform on that stage, which is a big theatrical stage in front of a big auditorium, to stepping onto into that fit, that level. Performance is the same food, different recipe, completely different recipe and Completely different recipe. And I remember, I just remember, stepping onto that stage, the first pet of our day was Fantasy 2015. And looking out in that crowd and seeing thousands of people and just telling myself way boy, you know. So this was really going on.
Speaker 2:And that call happened a year before I had to do my thesis and I was also going to school with one of our cast dancers at the time, jillia kato, and I pulled jillia square the side up aside of the and I said jillia, I feel I might have to take a year off from school because I ain't making it through this carnival season. My cat function, you know, jillia, tell me she said put your toothbrush in your bag, put your towel in your. Take a year off from school because I ain't making it through this carnival season. My car function, you know, jenny, tell me she said put your toothbrush in your bag, put your towel in your bag part, change your clothes in your bag and balance the two of them. Balance school and and and and work now because you're really supposed to step into your field after you graduate? Yeah right, I just so happen to step into my field in the middle of school in Hawaii, and it's finding balance between my health, my degree and my career at the same time, because I sleep in straight from.
Speaker 2:I remember I do insomnia. Insomnia is gone from the day before, let me say six and finish like the afternoon or the next day, and you're right down till you light up and we was headlining that show. And that same night we had to do about four shows prior and I had class for nine o'clock. So I tell my teacher, I say what? I'm missing part of my first class, but I'll be there for the rest of the day straight from insomnia, talking mama, I long no sleep, right, you know. And then from there it was. It was the process of doing my us work permit and all of them things you want to fly. Now we fly with him. And 2024 november, go there, make it 10 years since.
Speaker 1:Wow. So eventually you did learn how to balance it and you got through it. You know, and oftentimes we have those times in our lives where we, you know, we think that we can't come out of this moment.
Speaker 2:but with hard work, dedication and just good old-fashioned discipline, we can get through those times, 100 percent, 100 percent, and you always go to the highs and lows. Even if you're going to the highs, it's still like a low, it's still like a low, moments too, for sure. I remember I remember telling myself I read, or reaching a point why I thought the cup was too full. I was like I can't, I don't think I could. I could, I could push through this, right, you understand, I don't think I could push through it. And I was like you know, like I remember my dance teachers, my lectures.
Speaker 2:Lecturers used to tell me stories of when they was younger. And it's who, it's who walking through the rain because they have no money for transport and who don't have dance shoes, so they dance in barefoot. And just, I remember their hardships and kind of compare them and tell myself them as lecturers, them busting big salary, them making five figures a month, right, them as lecturers, them busting big salary, them making five figures a month Right, they're doing what I want to do, they're supporting their family and have stability through what I want to do, in a sense of no excuses. I could do it too.
Speaker 1:For sure, For sure. That's beautiful man and I am seeing the importance of having people to look up to, Because if you didn't have the lecturers then you might not have thought it was possible. But because you had people who have done it before, then you would have had the confidence that you could have done it too.
Speaker 2:It's a recipe, you know it's a recipe. You know, quinn is like you had to have first that passion on that drive right. Once you figure out where you're passionate about what you love to do with with full your heart, with with um, set your soul on fire. Right, yeah, you don't start there. Then you gotta put yourself in the right space. You have to put yourself around like-minded people.
Speaker 2:If you are wrong, pray. If you are a wrong antelope, you'll be a antelope too. You keep running from the predators, right. If you are wrong predators, you become a predator yourself. And then you start to eat food, you know, son, and you had a. Yeah, from there, you had to find people to support you and other support. That is basically a support system. Once you have the support system, you find a mentor, somebody that already doing it, somebody that upstairs, somebody that kind of could give you the advice that you need. And then you also had to have people that you look up to, people that you want to be like, people that you want to be better than I know.
Speaker 2:That's something kind of kind of um, egotistical right, yeah, the reality of it is have to have a specific level of ego without allowing that ego to control you and have absolutely, and that's when your passion it is turned into um, let's call it passion process, and then it have an xp, um purpose. Right, what you want to do with it now. You understand what opportunities you want to create, now only for yourself, but for other people, because, the end of the day, if I is a crab that climb out the barrel, the least I could do is extend my hand out, pull somebody out, yeah, and pull somebody else out, you know, you understand, I can't kick another man off the ladder, you know, and it's life's just, teacher, life's just a little climb, climb, climb.
Speaker 2:But I never had that mentality of having to climb over the people that are still trying to reach for the same goals that I'm reaching for now. You understand, it's only until I hit specific goals, I tell myself, hey, specific goals. I tell myself, hey, this man was trying to reach to this goal too.
Speaker 1:Let me see if I could offer him some sort of advice or some sort of opportunity that can help him reach to the same goal that I reached now. But for sure, beautiful, all right, bro. So we're moving on to one of my favorite segments of a game changers podcast. It's called the quick hitters. Now, quick hitters are rapid fire questions, so answer them as quickly as possible. All right, all right, cool. So first rapid fire question what is your favorite type of music?
Speaker 2:favorite type of music. Oh, I know it's a hard one, as I'll be said by. As I'll be said, I like, I like, I like the um, the as I, as I stuck a far nasty bass drop okay, okay, cool. Who is your hero, my hero? Fictional or reality, both, both fictional. The flash, you gotta keep running, dog, you gotta keep running, you gotta keep running. I can't look back absolutely reality. I have a billionaire mindset. So so all the billionaires are the world. A lot of people might find them as nasty people. I don't look at the nasty parts of their life.
Speaker 2:I look at the positive parts of their life. So, jay-z um, jeff bezos, elon musk um, I want to be a billionaire one day. You know, son, if not in this lifetime for my daughter, you know absolutely, if not, if not my daughter, lifetime for speech some way down the line Mm-hmm. We had to hit that point of generational wealth where you don't have to look over your shoulder.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Final quickie to question who would you like to see on this podcast?
Speaker 2:My sister. Okay, who's?
Speaker 2:your sister, my sister, I mean, how did she get to? And she doing it, she doing it, she doing it, she doing it, she doing it. And I really rate she because, um, I by I break all my my generational courses and it kind of it was kind of hard for me to look at my cousins and I'm and see them doing the same. They're doing the same as well, but a lot of them falling into it. My sister busting all the milestones right now and I'm proud of she. Like she, she's look up to me. They were. I used to look up to my mentors and I was actually just on her phone call with her and me and my sister. That is like my best friend, like we have real conversations about life and reason on on the moves that we want to make and she making these moves, bro, and I am absolutely mind blown, absolutely I love, I love that man.
Speaker 2:And we'll have her on.
Speaker 1:Once you give me the link she'll be here For sure.
Speaker 2:It would be nice to kind of hear she talk to, based on how she doing it now, you know For sure.
Speaker 1:For sure. All right, bro, so we're moving on to the back end of the interview. I know you would have faced challenges coming up as a dancer, particularly from the Caribbean on the global scene. So tell me what were some of those challenges and how did you overcome them?
Speaker 2:The biggest challenge of all is understanding that the Caribbean does not have an industry for the arts.
Speaker 2:There is a particular industry for it, which is Carnival. Carnival is the only invested opportunity we have for the arts Until I realized a lot of other islands, people from other islands, the flight of my islands for the opportunities that carnival has created. That's when I tell myself I can't live and find the stability I want with a seasonal opportunity. Yeah right, you know, sankai, the real seasonal is Trinidad, february March-ish, or January, february March-ish, be that that year, and then for the rest of the year you had to drive yourself. Now you know all the investments gone, all the opportunities gone on as you start creating a league for yourself. So I had to put myself in a space to be able to that, a space I would support the art now, which is why I moved to toronto, canada. That's where I live in and reside in now, um, and as I tell everybody, I come up here to eat all the food and it's all the food I eaten you know, right absolutely, bro.
Speaker 1:Now, I also know that you would have shared this stage with some stars. What was it like to share this stage with those big names and oh my god what was one of the highlights from those performances?
Speaker 2:um, I still remember um master monday. My master would fly in a lot of the big artists that I would usually share the stage with right, major Lazer, jack, here. You know, it started off very, very regional, a lot of the Beanie man and a lot of big Caribbean stars, sean Paul but it only dawned on me when we started stepping out of the region that there's a possibility for me to be in spaces with people that I never thought I would see in real life. Now, boy, right. So when we in barbados, I mean and and and the rain start falling and I in the corner of my eyes, I know rihanna there, right and in the corner of my eyes, I see she started walking on the stage. Now, boy, and that that is hitting slow motion is real boy. And then, like, like rihanna singing, she's singing the rain and the rain falling on every drop.
Speaker 2:I could count that drake um over your first 2016 um and and and over your first dra Drake event. But the first year we do it, drake wasn't there. The second year we do it, I tell you I'm dancing on stage with my partner and Drake just walk out on stage with her microphone, casually, slow motion, and again, I tell you, I could have count everybody jumping up in that crowd in a moment. Everybody I could have, I could have, I could. I see every facial expression and it's be a vivid moment. But the colors just be brighter, the, the, the, the, the, the senses be sharper, the, the, the music just be hitting the brain at a different level and like it's just be in that moment and that moment in itself, this feel like a movie, is still unreal.
Speaker 2:I remember being on on on a truck for carnival at Ashanti and at a Winnie hollow, on all of these, these, these, these celebrities now by director X and all of these people, and I do up there like um, these, these people, I, these people are in my circle. Right, that feeling I started to live for moments like that. If I could bring more of those moments into my life, then I am living a full life. You understand it even reached the point where Ashanti came to Toronto and a DJ his name is City, right, chris, chris, hit me up. He's like yo, ashanti't have a show out here. Pull up, I pull up and I end up on the stage with astante and jarul big hugs and busy seeing mars and think they think in the middle of the performance.
Speaker 2:And then after that performance, um, everybody was liming after and jarul was like I'm gonna take everybody out. We went to this big name restaurant in tor. The chef come out and say compliments from him Every dog, I'm talking about T-bone steaks and lobster Big meal. Jarul was at that side of the table and thing. And then we all went to the club after and I am in that space, bro, telling myself how, how, fam, you understand, like what this real? Yeah, man, you know. But then it just become normal, a normal process to just be around those people and be in that space with people like that, and even with the Argos. I'm part of the Canadian Football League Dance Team, the A-Team, argos A-Team. We just won the 2024 111th Grey Cup. So you know, and every time you win the Grey Cup, everybody on the team has got a championship ring. So, yeah, I have a championship ring coming soon.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's yourself, bro. You are a major inspiration, not just to me, but I know you are a major inspiration to many people in your circle, outside of your circle, people from your country. Never forget where you come from, never forget who you are. I must say I'm proud of you and I trust that you'll continue striving of course, and for anybody that doubt in themselves.
Speaker 2:You understand, remember that question I said earlier in the interview when my mother was asking me how I'm gonna support her family and stability hunting yeah, everything that I have around me dance before. My wife is happy, my daughter is flourishing and I just trying to create a space in the stability that I have now for her to follow her dreams. You know, have a three-year-old daughter big up, rain, baby gravity, you know, and don't doubt yourself, keep pushing through, you will make it absolutely, man, and to thank you so much for coming on.
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