Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
“Real Life Investing” with Jason and Rachel Wagner is a multifaceted podcast that blends insights from real estate, entrepreneurship, family life, and political discussions. Known for their candid and engaging style, the Wagner’s explore how their conservative values shape their approach to both business and life. They often discuss their personal journeys in real estate, offering practical tips on topics like how to buy a house or investment property while navigating a challenging housing market.
In addition to real estate, the show frequently delves into entrepreneurial lessons, highlighting the importance of mindset, perseverance, and staying focused on long-term goals. They are open about the challenges they’ve faced and provide valuable advice for anyone looking to head into entrepreneurship or seek the best version of themselves.
Dinner table conversations are central to the podcast. The Wagner’s discuss their experiences balancing various topics that families face, while often featuring guests who share similar journeys. Political conversations are explored from a conservative perspective, particularly when they touch on how these beliefs influence their business decisions and personal growth.
With a blend of relatable stories and expert advice, “Real Life Investing” is a show that appeals to a wide audience, from aspiring entrepreneurs and real estate investors, to those seeking inspiration in their personal lives.
Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
28. Valentines Day Special: Raw and Partially Censored
Tune in to our fun Valentines Day special that reminisces on how our relationship began. We stroll through the awkward stories that are typically found with any romance, but we also reveal the blunt truths and fumbles that occurred along the way. Jason also walks us through his slow play method of sealing the deal and winning Rachel's heart. An entertaining and hardly filtered episode!
Welcome back to the real life investing podcast with Jason Rachel Wagner. Today we we want to do a episode. We were actually having a great conversation in the kitchen just now and, in light of Valentine's Day that's coming up here, we wanted to kind of give you the raw, uncensored version of the Jason and Rachel origination story.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's definitely gonna be censored still.
Speaker 1:Come on, people want to hear like Not the oh, our love story type thing. They want to hear the raw, uncensored stuff like how did it really go down right? These are, these are the types of conversations that you have with like your closest friends. You're drinking in a corner late at night and somebody's just like how did, how did you guys really meet? Like kind of one of those. Yeah right?
Speaker 2:Well, fun fact, jason, I became Facebook friends on Valentine's Day. Our Our Facebook friend of her sherry is Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we were both out of love, yeah, nothing to do on Valentine's Day, and I did, I send it or did you send it? You sent it, I sent it, yeah, but you accepted. Yeah, I did. Yeah, so go back. Okay, what, what were we talking about in the kitchen? We were talking about height, and this is kind of what stirred the conversation. We were talking about height and Rachel said to me she's like Jason, if you were like shorter, I don't think I would have dated you. She's like I don't even think that we would have started talking. So, for those that don't know, I'm like six foot, six foot one on a good day, and you know around 200 pounds. And I said, well, if I have the exact same personality, exact same everything, but I'm just at your eye level, you wouldn't have dated me, like what I.
Speaker 2:Know I was being a little harsh. I Don't think I would have been attracted to you the same way that I am. So I mean, maybe, maybe you would have charmed your way enough. You were certainly quite persistent, but I feel like my attraction to you may not have been as strong, or it may be even present.
Speaker 1:And and that's amazing to me, because I didn't think that women could be so shallow, but I mean, I guess we all have our own preferences, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think it's, it's shallow. I mean, I Just don't think my attraction would have been there, and attraction is such a key part to any relationship.
Speaker 1:It's like the initial part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think it has to maintain. I still need to be attracted to you, mm-hmm. A Multiple ways, right, like I need to be attracted to your personality, need to be attracted to your character and I need to be physically attracted to you.
Speaker 1:And if I was your eye level or lower, just wouldn't have worked out I.
Speaker 2:Don't think so. I mean hard to say, but I I don't think so.
Speaker 1:No yeah, I mean it's, it's. It's totally interesting. I've never thought about that as like having like a short man syndrome, like that being a thing. But I Mean, there you have it, I guess for Rachel's preference, that it's not true for everybody, right I? There are Hundreds and thousands of relationships out there where the woman is taller than the man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're just kind of bringing it to light like, yeah, no, it's kind of a preference of mine. Yeah, so I passed the sniff test on that. But how did we? How do we actually meet right?
Speaker 2:Well, you should probably start, cuz you're the one who started pursuing me.
Speaker 1:You think?
Speaker 2:yeah, you pursued me.
Speaker 1:Yeah you saw me first in the library, I think yeah, all right, so I guess we'll go back like there was a party one night, it was late, like it was after midnight and Like I was ready to go home, but I found myself outside. I was talking to you I don't think I was smoking a cigarette, but the person I was talking to was smoking a cigarette. I was outside. Come on uncensored.
Speaker 2:Well, you were, you smoking the cigarette?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I mean, that's the thing is like it's. It was possible that I was smoking, because I always smoke when I would drink. It's kind of one of those things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:I'm an athlete, you know I don't smoke, but if I got a beer in my hand I'll do it. So it's very possible that I was smoking a cigarette, but I really can't recall. And anyways, the person that I was talking to happened to be your roommate and I later went back with your roommate and hung out with your roommate and We'll kind of leave it at that.
Speaker 1:And then the funny thing was is that I don't know, maybe it was like a week later About a week later, I Remember, I saw you in the library and you were sitting next to your roommate. I Was like, oh Well, who's that? And so I got really interested and In you from that perspective, even though I hadn't talked to you, I just I just I saw you with the girl I was talking to and Became more interested in you and what did your friend have to say about that?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because then I did a little bit more research on you like, oh, she's a dancer, she's on the vikets Are you researched me Well, I think so I think I knew a little bit about what I was getting myself into is that you had a little, you had all right, yeah, she's a dancer, like she fits the she fits kind of the mold of what I'm looking for somebody's active, physically fit.
Speaker 2:Really attractive. Jason and shallow list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it brings a little unique spiciness to her redhead.
Speaker 1:Other features that are you like the redhead thing nice to look at, and so, yeah, no it. And so anyways, I Said to my buddy, dave, and I'm like, yeah, I really like her and I think I want to talk to her and she he's just like, dude, you have zero chance. Because I think I think Dave kind of knew my game like not not very good, like my my girl, my my girl chasing game was not actually that good, it really wasn't. I Think I was too much of a gentleman, like my dad always told me, like always be a gentleman and like that goes a long way until you know you get girls are like yeah, I want the bad boy, or like I want you know what I mean. There's, there's that side of things and I was. I could just never really get to that level.
Speaker 2:Oh, I liked the gentleman thing. You did yeah, yeah, that was actually the first way I described you to my dad really Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Oh, all right. Well see, my dad taught me a good lesson. He certainly did yeah. So then I guess we kind of just got together from that right, but I feel like there's a lot more awkwardness on your end because it was your roommate and how did you? Yeah, so would you navigate that so?
Speaker 2:I still didn't even know you at this point, right like she had told me about you. But then, like you guys never talked again and it was just like a Very minimal one-night fling type thing where you guys kissed and that was it, and which is true that that is all we did.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's, very true, just want to set the record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so then we ran into each other at a house party, like a march or something, and you were leaving and you, so we'd already become Facebook friends. We had never talked and you like waved me out into the hallway and I was like, what like, what, what like? Wait, who are you?
Speaker 1:Remember who I was well, when I waved you out in the hallway.
Speaker 2:Not really.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I was like what do you want?
Speaker 1:Like. Why are?
Speaker 2:you trying to talk to me and I went out. There was like expecting you to, like, tell me something, and you just wanted to talk. She's like hey, how's it going? You're just chatting with me.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know.
Speaker 2:I thought you like it's something like tell me or show me, or like some big reason you were like pulling me in the hallway and you're just like hey no, what's up. Oh Then what's up with you? And you had another friend with you who was like come on, jason, it's time to go, come on, let's go. I think he said so to the effect of like the girls are waiting for us, let's go. We got to get to NAISAP. It's like you can go like whatever, and you're like hold on, I'm talking to her.
Speaker 1:I Did put a priority on that conversation, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't remember what we talked about.
Speaker 1:I think you like to. Well, here's what's funny about the short man syndrome thing. Okay, because at the time I was on, you were on the upper landing of the stairs and I was on like two or three steps lower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, yeah. So I was like talking down to you.
Speaker 1:Right, right, so appearing to be shorter, yeah, but really it put my eye level at like right, the exact height that I wanted to be looking at.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I noticed I.
Speaker 1:Noticed. So in college, right? Rachel would sometimes wear. You know, some revealing things are like I Mean, that's what all girls do, right? That's just the nature of the nature of the college party. And I think I just aligned my eyes just to be what eye level with the goods.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you smiled the whole time.
Speaker 1:Somehow. I mean, I was trying to look at your eyes but you wore. You wore that and I mean that's just what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we should go back and look at our Facebook messages. We started messaging.
Speaker 1:They say that night you think messages are saved back to 100% what 2011 or 2010?
Speaker 2:oh, for sure. Oh, I'm gonna do a check.
Speaker 1:There is no way that you can pull this up right now. Go back all the way oh, that would be wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got a lot of yours go back. This was 2010. Here we go May 24th 2010, so I thought we were Facebook chatting, like before that.
Speaker 1:This is May whoa, but this is from you. Oh, no, that's me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is you saying to you. Oh, this is after. I miss you already before Grants. Oh my god, this is the wrong, uncensored version.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't think we can even say that.
Speaker 2:All right, well, we missed a big chunk. Anyways, we met at this house party. Wow, what did I say to you at the house party?
Speaker 1:No, in those text messages or in those messages.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:All right, we'll read those off off the air.
Speaker 2:We're losing our traction here, where we're going all right, but you were going.
Speaker 1:You're gonna say something, oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we just like started messaging every now and then I'd run into you around campus every now and then, and then it really wasn't until I feel like May, but like we legitimately started hanging out Right. Well, yeah, it kind of took me a while.
Speaker 1:I was one of those slow play dance marathon. Yeah, I was one of those slow play kind of guys where I I didn't have enough confidence to like just going for the kill. I always had to like slow play it and it was uh, you know when's gonna be my next opportunity? I don't know when it's gonna be, but whenever the opportunity kind of presents itself, then I'll just do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you came to do marathon and you walked with me like all night.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yeah. So I really really wheeled you in on that one, because that was quality time, right.
Speaker 2:That was the.
Speaker 1:Going back to Rachel's love language. She's a quality time type person. I am a quality time yeah this was a what they call it dance marathon dance marathon, but really you just walked around the track all night long raising money for a charity or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah it was an all night event and yeah it was there the whole night. Yeah, yeah, and so you came and hung out with me instead of going to a party. That's right, it was existing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's true. I decided to Spend some quality time with Rachel, to get to know her and just walk around the track, and there was no alcohol involved. I think right, that was pure sober event yeah, wow, that was a good, that was a good move.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was the start of our walking, so I'm pulling the chest pieces here a little bit.
Speaker 1:So, like you know, when I first saw you, it's kind of with somebody else and like maybe that's like setting the jealousy mark of like, oh Okay, and then I kind of moved over to you, kind of wheeled you in a little bit and then, you know, slow, played it from there, spend some quality time and and then finally I think I went in for the kill.
Speaker 2:What's the kill? Me mind the kill, I'm the prey.
Speaker 1:Well, like this the ceiling of the deal. How about that? Would you rather I say it that way the ceiling of the deal.
Speaker 2:I Don't even think that's accurate. So that was in May. We just our date until July. So we used to walk around campus.
Speaker 1:We had one night we had one night together, though it wasn't very memorable though after you want to share that. Rachel and I Rachel and I tried to To have an intimate night, but it just didn't work out. I drank too much and and like it just basically had to there.
Speaker 2:Not into the dorms, because he was a sophomore and I was a junior, so I had to sneak in through the window of the dorms into somebody else's room who, yeah, had an accessible window.
Speaker 1:So age must not have been like one of those criteria. Things for you, right? Because here I am, a younger guy still live in the dorms and you think it's a cool idea to go sneak into the dorms through the window because it was after hours. They weren't gonna let you in if you didn't live in the building. So was age a.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think it crossed my mind a little bit, but but no, it wasn't age is kind of a thing for a lot of women, though.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yeah, there's not a maybe, there's not a lot of women that would want to. They want to date somebody younger or date somebody older.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think typically men are more mature or they mature later. So I think women tend to like gravitate towards older men or men who are a couple years older.
Speaker 1:But so women? Women want to date older men.
Speaker 2:I think women want to date mature men mature men.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you could be younger, but mature as long as you're mature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you were very like, like, as you're saying, like you had the slow roll. You were a gentleman and like, for several weeks we would like Go hang out with our friends independently, but like be texting throughout the night and then when we wanted to come home we would walk campus. We used to walk the slew path a lot like late at night. At the end of the night We'd just go for a walk because I wouldn't go back to the dorms with you and I didn't. I didn't let you come to my house that year at all.
Speaker 1:You didn't come to my yeah, so we always had to meet up in a mutual mutual place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't want to be alone with you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is funny, yeah, which we'd find like a corner on the slew path and like we Make sure nobody was watching and like we'd make out in the corner. That's kind of what happened, right. Oh gosh, I don't know yeah, good times, anything else, to our raw and uncensored story.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's kind of funny, like so you were heading to Europe at the end of that school year and Then you were really gone for the whole summer. So I was staying on campus because I was going into my senior year house and you were gonna be going home. But you're gonna go to Europe for 10 days. And you're like, yeah, so Go into Europe. And Michael talked to you for like 10 days and I honestly thought that was gonna be like the end of us talking. I was just like, okay, well, this was a fun few weeks to hanging out with you, but maybe I'll talk to you in the fall or or whatever. And then you called me from Europe and you emailed me like every day. You emailed me every day like a long story and you kept being like I miss you and what not.
Speaker 1:Just doing all the things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that message we saw on Facebook. Was you telling me that that you miss me already? You were packing for Europe.
Speaker 1:Wow, I was like wow, just doing all the romantic things, this is what a what a good romance Leading into Valentine's Day. Are you kidding me? Wow, I Mean this just brings out the fire, right? I mean, our romance hasn't really died, has ever gone through. We've, we've gone through peaks and valleys, for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we've talked about that.
Speaker 1:But where? Where, would you say, our romance is now compared to? Like maybe we first got married or After five years of marriage. What are we on? We're on eight, around eight years.
Speaker 2:I'll be nine years, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:What on a scale of one to ten? What's our romance? What's our romance like now?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I Don't know like an eight or nine.
Speaker 1:Oh, so there's room for improvement.
Speaker 2:Well, there's always room for some improvement, but that's a pretty high rating. Yeah eight.
Speaker 1:Eight, is it eight or nine?
Speaker 2:Let's give it 8.5. What would you rate it? Questions about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You want to add to our romance story?
Speaker 1:No, I think yeah, 8.5 rating like I, I'm pretty close to that, for sure. I think a 10 is just like out of this world, exceptional, right, and you know to rank ourselves on where we were.
Speaker 2:I feel like a 10 is like like. I feel like the adrenaline of our engagement and, like our mayor, like our wedding and then our Honeymoon, like the adrenaline of all that honey moon face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like honey moon face is a 10 and like the first, like year.
Speaker 2:Yes, dating was very like we were infatuated with each other.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Wanted to spend like every waking second with each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think that's a great, that's a great perspective. Okay, when we first started dating 10 total 10, mm-hmm. When we got married total 10 mm-hmm and now we're at 8.5 mm-hmm. That's pretty damn good After eight years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1:What would you attribute that to? And where were we? Maybe before we had kids, or like right as you were pregnant?
Speaker 2:Oh, we were low then, yeah, but we talked about that like the flip. You were working on the Ada house was insanely stressful. I was at an insanely stressful job. We did not spend a lot of time like connecting, we were both kind of like dealing with our own stressors and we weren't actively trying to have a child, so it was a little bit of a stressful time and Even after we were sweet blessing, but Even after we had kids I mean because I share people that you know, 75 hard was one of those things that saved our marriage.
Speaker 1:I truly believe that. I truly believe that and that's why I'm so vocal about that program, because, yeah, it was a mindset shift that allowed both of us to be selfish and insanely selfish, but it was the selfishness that was totally needed because it helped solidify who we were as people, as individuals, and then put that together into a family unit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, saved our marriage. Sounds dramatic, but I do think that if had we been continuing on the path that we were on, we would have really, really struggled, like we needed something to push us back together.
Speaker 1:That was 75 hard for sure. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man. That's why I'm always like so into the program, because it does so many things on like multiple levels. When you think about the relationship stuff, man, that's powerful.
Speaker 2:Do you remember when you asked me to be your girlfriend? I couldn't find the note All right Tell the story.
Speaker 2:So we I came to your parents for the weekend. We weren't dating yet. I had actually told my roommate that week and I was like I'm not gonna date this guy yet, like I don't wanna make it official because I've owned into my senior year. I don't really know like what's going on. I had over my head like this looming thing that I was gonna have to move in April of the next year for my job. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go to Detroit, anyways. So I was like I don't really want to be like super committed, just to kind of have a fun hanging out with this guy. And then that night you took me to the King County Fair and we hung out with some of your high school friends. By accident we just happened to run into them Two of the guys who ended up being in our wedding we just happened to run into the King County Fair.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's so funny, yeah, and we had so much fun like hanging out with all of them. And then that night you had already like pre-written like this little note and put it in the glove box and you had your iPod so what they're called iPods connected to a cord, and you're like, oh, could you grab my iPod out of the glove box? And I was like what are you talking about? And so I'm like digging in there trying to pull it, and I didn't see it. Anyways, I missed it. So you had to try again a little later and then I found the note, but the first time it just failed. And you're like it's right there. It's right there, rachel, do you see it? It's right there.
Speaker 1:Can you get it?
Speaker 2:It's right there. I'm like I don't know what you're talking about. You're finally like okay, fine, and you found a reason for us to leave the house again so I could look in the glove box again and find the note and it said be my girlfriend, question mark Ha ha ha, perfect, yeah. And then the next morning so I hadn't met your parents yet, they were sleeping when we got there, and so you had this moment of like do I sleep in your room or do I sleep somewhere else? And you're like I don't know. I think it's fine. I'm like I don't know. I don't want to make a bad impression. They're just like assuming I could sleep in your room. Well, we did. I slept in your room and then the next morning your dad texted and is like hey, we're making breakfast, as your guest want, and it's like apple cinnamon waffles or something else. Ha ha ha. And we tell him what guy we want and you're like oh, and, by the way, she's my girlfriend now. Ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 1:Ha, ha, ha, oh, yeah, oh good.
Speaker 2:That was a good old days.
Speaker 1:Good stuff, like how you said, found a reason to leave the house. Ha, ha, ha Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2:Well, we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we found a reason to leave the house. Yep, yeah, good stuff. I guess you're just going to leave the listener hanging on that statement there. She raises her eyebrows.
Speaker 2:Ha ha ha. I said, this was censored. Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you ever get a chance to drink with Rachel and I on a nice chosen night, we might share more details, but we'll keep things to a relatively decent advisory here, I guess. But yeah, our parents listen to this show. That's true. That's true. But the thing about us is that we're very transparent people. We're very authentic people.
Speaker 2:You are very transparent. You're very authentic.
Speaker 1:You are following the exact same path. I am. I just listened to your last episode, where it's just you talking about vulnerability and how you're sharing.
Speaker 2:We haven't published that one yet, and it's fun because now I get to really hear and see.
Speaker 1:Now people can actually see the Rachel that I see on a daily basis, and it's amazing. You have so much to offer, and so that's why I love your willingness to be open.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:You're welcome, gasping you up.
Speaker 2:Gasping me up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's work with the affirmations I must be my second level. Well, maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my first is quality time, my second must be worth the affirmations.
Speaker 1:I like to slow play things Because it kind of adds up to maybe some big reward down the road or something typically.
Speaker 2:We didn't talk about formal at all. Talk about poob-a-formal. You have to go camp out and you didn't bring a tent. The first time.
Speaker 1:Oh, ok, all right. So you're talking about when I asked you to come to my fraternity formal party, formal event. It was like a weekend, yeah, it was like a weekend. We would always do this camping thing multi-night in Galena and I went down and was already sleeping, yeah, so I asked you to come and then you reminded me earlier, when you were standing in the kitchen earlier today, that you didn't invite me to your formal I already had a date.
Speaker 2:In which you, I would have invited you, but I already had a date.
Speaker 1:In which in which the way that you presented that you had a date was yeah, no, I'm going with another friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That I didn't know that you were romantic with.
Speaker 2:Romantic is an exaggeration. We're just kind of talking.
Speaker 1:Okay, that you guys were kind of a thing.
Speaker 2:Kind of talking.
Speaker 1:All right, kind of talking yeah, yeah, but that's not what you told me. But I guess that's always a good way to kind of you know, I didn't worry about it whatsoever. That's kind of the funny thing, but maybe I should have um. Overall it ended in my favor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's funny about that formal. I didn't think you were gonna actually continue to take me because I was also invited to another fraternity formal and so I couldn't go to the first day of Puba formal because I was going to Don formal.
Speaker 1:So, so this is amazing because I'm I'm really kind of getting like, um, the the true side of, uh, you know Rachel's position and she's like this beautiful girl, of course she has these men that are like going after her.
Speaker 2:And Don formal was truly just a friend.
Speaker 1:All right, so maybe that's what I was getting confused with, but you had, you had like a few individuals that were in the picture and somehow I was able to like, outbid them all. Outbid, I'm never gonna say terminology, oh my god. Multiple offers yeah, this was, this was a multiple offer situation. I was able to put in the escalation clause. I bought it as is and um was willing to, uh, do everything that Seller wanted to close the deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you were very persistent so you were like, persistent in a non-aggressive way, if that makes sense, like you just the sole play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just kept coming around and, like I, I was talking to a few different people that spring and just you know, just being single and meeting different people, went to a couple formals and, um, actually it's funny, so I did go to my formal with somebody else but we had a pretty like dramatic event that happened at that formal and me and my roommates ended up coming home and we didn't stay at the hotel and I hung out with you that night after formal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, got the booty call. It was not a booty call at that time, but I think it was a walk through the slew but, yeah, yeah, the walk through the slew.
Speaker 2:The walk through the slew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we found a corner, you make out it. Yeah, okay stop making it sound so sleazy, it's just kissing you Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know the booty call yeah.
Speaker 1:Jason once made a comment to his parents about how easy.
Speaker 2:it was to like for start hanging out with me. I was like easy, what are you talking about? We'd sleep together, like for months.
Speaker 1:It was not easy. I made that comment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was so offended, I was like what? And then you had to correct it because I was like what, right in front of them, and you were like no, no, no, no. I mean like, I mean like no drama and not high maintenance, and like I was like, okay, thank you. I was like, I was just, I was not easy.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, because I was coming out of a relationship that was very dramatic, very high maintenance, just you know, really one sided At least, I think. I don't know what's my term of it. We don't need to talk about old relations, right? Yeah, we don't need to go into it.
Speaker 1:But whatever, you know what I mean and the way I was disappointed and the way I was describing you was that this is someone who's just easy to get along with, and I think that's what I was going for. Yes, was that? It's easy to talk to you, it's easy to have fun with you, it's easy to converse? Yeah, I really like hang out.
Speaker 2:That was that's like a perfect way to describe how we came about as a couple is like it happened. So naturally. It happened slowly over time, because we met in February and then we didn't really start talking until May and then we didn't start dating until July, yeah, so it was like that's a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think and we went to formal in May. Still didn't start dating till July, went to formal in May, then you went to Europe. You know, may, june, then we lived apart for like six weeks because you were in Elgin. You came to visit me a couple times and stayed with me a couple times and then didn't start dating until end of July. Yeah, so yeah, just happened pretty naturally, slow roll, the slow game.
Speaker 1:It was a slow play, the gentleman. Slow jams, slow jam.
Speaker 2:The playlist.
Speaker 1:The playlist. All right. That's kind of a funny thing. Rachel and I used to pick songs and we'd be like, oh, should we add this to the playlist? Like so anytime we would hang out we'd play the playlist. Well, it became a running joke within the house of guys that I would live in. Is that? Oh, jason and Rachel are playing the playlist. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think at one point they knew like the first four songs of the playlist. It's like you're living in a house with like so many guys. All your doors are like right next to each other, you know? So if you want to have good conversation, you got to turn up the music.
Speaker 1:You got to turn up the music. Yeah yeah, that's so funny. Yeah yeah, we haven't visited the playlist in a while, but I think it's laid out there somewhere.
Speaker 2:The kids- got to sleep. Your priorities change. You're talking too loud. Don't flush the toilet, they're sleeping.
Speaker 1:Guys, we cannot. Ok, so this is just a pet peeve. I mean it used to be is that you used to live with a roommate His name is Eric and he would go to the bathroom, and then every time you would go to the bathroom, there would be something that's like sitting there waiting for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, every time.
Speaker 1:Right. So we've kind of like adopted this, weirdly enough, because Rachel has this. I think it's motherly instinct that you just don't want to make noise in the middle of the night because the kids wake up so easily. So please don't flush the toilet if you go in the middle of the night so that the children don't wake up.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we kind of want that wait some of the time.
Speaker 1:I've kind of been scolded a little bit, or like I started like critiquing it.
Speaker 2:Jason is very loud and just about everything that he does. He talks loud, he breathes loud, he, like you know, closes doors and turns on and off lights really loudly. Everything is like a pfft, like what are you doing? Like it's 4 30 in the morning.
Speaker 1:You're awake drinking coffee. I'm just doing my thing. And you're just banging dishes around. I'm not banging anything.
Speaker 2:I'm just just living, just doing my thing.
Speaker 1:Why is?
Speaker 2:your living so loud? I don't understand. Like just be mindful that those little ears are.
Speaker 1:All right, so maybe it's partially is that I have a lot of earwax and I'm a heavy earwax producer and so majority of my life everything's muffled.
Speaker 2:Possible excuse.
Speaker 1:So there's a couple of times where, like it gets really bad, so probably like two or three times a year, like you got to like flush my ears, it's kind of funny gross to talk about.
Speaker 2:It's really gross.
Speaker 1:But like I kind of use it as an excuse sometimes when, like I can't, like, literally can't hear, and during those moments where it's like all right, like I'm due to get flushed, like Rachel will get mad at me and like hey, you're not listening to me. Well, I literally cannot hear you and so I just need to like speak a little bit louder.
Speaker 2:I saw a funny meme today. I sent it to you. It was like I didn't realize when I got a husband that the ears were sold separately. I sent it to you. It'll be in your inbox.
Speaker 1:You know my parents would be so pissed because you know their favorite line is my dad's favorite line and it's a great line. It's that God gave you two ears in one mouth so that you can listen more and you speak. It's a great line. But what they don't talk about in that quote is that, well, you produce earwax and so what's going on?
Speaker 2:So you can't listen that well, oh man. And what they don't teach you in school is how like one dimensional men are in like their inability to multitask. It's like one task at a time.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and those men that know how to multitask, like you guys, are ridiculous, like I don't even think that's a thing. I think most people, most guys that I know, just they can't multitask. I absolutely cannot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if Jason's in the middle of doing anything literally anything else, he is not listening to me.
Speaker 1:Right, and so when I asked He'll respond most of the time.
Speaker 2:yes, but he has no idea what I said or what he said yesterday.
Speaker 1:I've been trained to do that. It's just. It was your grandfather, your grandfather at our wedding.
Speaker 2:We asked for words of advice and he said just say yes. And you do.
Speaker 1:When there's moments that maybe I'm messaging someone and you just don't recognize that I'm messaging someone waiting for me to like finish a text, and you're like hello, are you listening? And I'm like yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll ask you specific questions about dates or plans or something, and you'd be like yeah, yeah, sounds great. Yeah, yep, sounds good, yep. And then, five minutes later, sorry, sorry, repeat everything that you just said.
Speaker 1:My what. All right, guys, you know that you do that too, and so I think that the trick for me has been Rachel, if you're going to tell me something that is detailed planned, you have to first address me by my name, Jason.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Honey, you don't call me honey, no, I do not call you honey, and I call you babe, babe, yeah.
Speaker 1:Jason, jase, jase, babe. Ok, so just address me, and then you will have my attention, and then you will have my attention.
Speaker 2:That's a good segue into a future episode. We're going to have another couple on here that we've met through Scarlett's school and they have taught us so much about parenting and relationships in just a short time that we've had in knowing them, and one of them is the first time we hung out with them. We left their house and you were like Rachel, did you see what Katie did? She addresses Matt when she's talking to him. She yells from across the room Matt and gets his attention and then starts talking. That's what you need to do Address me. I was like OK.
Speaker 1:When I first told that to Rachel, I said you have to address me. It was almost like I was like her master or something Like I owned you.
Speaker 2:That was so pissed.
Speaker 1:No, this is just a common the way that you communicate. If you're going to start talking with someone, usually you would say, oh, hey, so and so, or hey, you don't just start talking, because is the person supposed to totally know that you're talking to them, even though if you're the only people in the room?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was my side of the argument is we're both standing in the kitchen. If I start talking, you listen.
Speaker 1:Right, but in our world of distractedness, there is so many things that I could be looking at, and also there's so many things that are happening in my head that I can't control.
Speaker 2:I know I have very much come to realize that your brain is so out of control.
Speaker 1:In a good way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in a good way. There's a lot happening up there all of the time, and so I've just learned certain techniques to grab your attention when I really need it.
Speaker 1:You do have certain techniques, don't you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have found my power. Can I utilize?
Speaker 1:that she leans into it. It's awesome. I'm a fortunate man. I just want to say that. Very fortunate man.
Speaker 2:I think this episode got a little weird.
Speaker 1:I think it might be kind of funny, as you kind of like put it all together.
Speaker 2:We'll see.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I'm not going to say that you found any value out of this episode, but maybe you got some entertainment. Maybe there's a few little nuggets there that were kind of funny.
Speaker 2:Well, what would you say to someone pursuing love around Valentine's Day? Oh there you go. What's your advice? We've been going on. What are you 14 years? Yeah, Is that right, 14 years.
Speaker 1:I think what I totally lacked and here's kind of the follow-up question for you is I played the slow play, but what if I would have done more of a direct line? I want to be your man. It took me months to get to that point, but what if I would have done that in two weeks?
Speaker 2:Oh, it would have been too soon. Yeah, I said we weren't going to talk about other people we dated, but the person I dated before you. They asked me to be their girlfriend. I said no.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was too soon.
Speaker 1:OK, so it's kind of like reading the room a little bit.
Speaker 2:And then they thought I wanted to break up and I was like no, I just, am I ready?
Speaker 1:Yeah, read the room. So when in doubt, slow play, slow play the situation.
Speaker 2:I think, when in doubt, the start of a relationship should be easy. If in the beginning it's not easy, it only gets harder. Yeah so the slow play, I think Maybe it wasn't easy for you, but it was super easy for me, like just kind of naturally.
Speaker 1:But there was a couple times where you were like what's this guy, like what's this guy's intentions? Right, wasn't like almost, like it's too slow.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:You didn't ever have this moment of like what is he or why is he keep coming around? No, it's actually interesting.
Speaker 2:You bring that up because I've I mean, I've had those thoughts like in prior relationships or whatever. It's like weird and you don't really know, like what's going on, but I don't think I ever had that with you.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't think so, did you? Well, I guess, when we were talking about me moving to Detroit, that pushed, I think, our this is after we were dating, but that pushed, like our dating relationship into a more serious place. It was like, okay, no, like we're in it for a longer haul. Because I was very seriously. We went on a house hunting trip in Detroit and you were still in college and I was gonna have to move April of that, was it April? I think it was April. And so it was just like we don't want to do long distance, do we like is this what we want? And we're like, well, we really don't want to break up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's true. Yeah, there were a lot of things that they were able to keep your job local to where I was and, yeah, long distance would not worth. I would then wait toward.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Amazing. So I guess the takeaway from this is Read the person slow, play it, it's not that bad. You don't got to be so like cut to the chase. You know, give some finesse. Spend the quality time that's needed to foster the relationship. Holy shit, there it is. That's it right. Spend the quality time needed to foster the relationship and it can blossom into something beautiful. And then, eight years later, we're an eight and a half out of ten Inch in our way closer to that ten mode again. You think we can get ten mode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you take me to Santorini for a ten year anniversary, oh yeah, I promise that ten years ago I promised her a big vacation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was literally it was literally on our wedding day, or like right around that time. I said alright, our next big vacation after this honeymoon can be ten years from now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah which is we took a couple big European vacations, but like romantic beach getaway yeah, I really had a romantic beach getaway. How are we?
Speaker 1:No, I mean really it was kind of like Aruba was our was a honey one, so yeah, that's kind of the last one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we're. We're ready for one.
Speaker 1:We went to Mexico.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was yeah. Party with our friends, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cool, we're gonna get to the 10. That'd be great, all right, well, thanks for tuning in. This was a long one, but it's kind of fun. I enjoyed it with you. I don't know if you guys enjoyed listening to it, but I think it was kind of comical. We'll catch on the next one, oh.