Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
“Real Life Investing” with Jason and Rachel Wagner is a multifaceted podcast that blends insights from real estate, entrepreneurship, family life, and political discussions. Known for their candid and engaging style, the Wagner’s explore how their conservative values shape their approach to both business and life. They often discuss their personal journeys in real estate, offering practical tips on topics like how to buy a house or investment property while navigating a challenging housing market.
In addition to real estate, the show frequently delves into entrepreneurial lessons, highlighting the importance of mindset, perseverance, and staying focused on long-term goals. They are open about the challenges they’ve faced and provide valuable advice for anyone looking to head into entrepreneurship or seek the best version of themselves.
Dinner table conversations are central to the podcast. The Wagner’s discuss their experiences balancing various topics that families face, while often featuring guests who share similar journeys. Political conversations are explored from a conservative perspective, particularly when they touch on how these beliefs influence their business decisions and personal growth.
With a blend of relatable stories and expert advice, “Real Life Investing” is a show that appeals to a wide audience, from aspiring entrepreneurs and real estate investors, to those seeking inspiration in their personal lives.
Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
51. Celebrating 50 Episodes: Real Estate Success, Personal Growth, and Authentic Conversations
Join us as we celebrate our 50th episode on the Real Life Investing Podcast. We couldn’t have reached this milestone without our listeners, our virtual assistant Ricel, and the incredible guests who shared their wisdom and experiences. This episode is a heartfelt reflection on our journey, highlighting the transformative impact of the 75 Hard program, with inspiring stories from Nicky De Leon (Ep #8), Jon and Keira Quintero (Ep #15), Paige Henneman (Ep #33), James and Mhariel Stirgus (Ep #46), and many more. Each of their personal growth journeys have been nothing short of inspiring, and we are grateful to share them with you.
From house hacking to dream homes, we also dive into the personal tales of real estate success stories. We recount Tim Botsford's (Ep #14) leap into an investment property, Brian and Ashley DeSimone's (Ep #20) house hacking partnership, and Levi and Lindsey Kane's (Ep #16) pursuit of their dream home. These stories emphasize the importance of transparency and vulnerability, not just in real estate but in all aspects of life.
As we look to the future, we remain committed to discussing important and sometimes taboo topics, encouraging authentic and relatable dialogue. Influential conversations with guests like Dave & Amanda Lee (Ep #47) on Faith, Family, and Freedom, Leslie Dirnberger (Ep #45) and Kate Salas (Ep #48) on homeschooling, and Melyssa Garten (Ep #41) on her experiences in China and her family business have enriched our podcast journey.
As we reflect on these impactful episodes and look forward to the next 50, we thank you for being a listener! Here's to continuing these meaningful conversations, learning from diverse perspectives, and investing in real life together!
Welcome back to another episode of the Real Life Investing Podcast with Jason and Rachel Wagner. This is a celebration of 50 episodes, so this is actually going to be the 51st episode, but we can reflect on 50 full episodes that we've done, which is amazing if you actually think about it. Did you ever think that we would do 50 episodes?
Speaker 2:No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I mean we just like hit our two year mark Our first episode, published July 25th 2022.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so we've been doing it for two years.
Speaker 2:Two years yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah. It took us two years to do 50 episodes.
Speaker 1:We kind of had some like ups and downs with it and yeah, for sure, we're on a pretty good cadence right now, though Part of it was like our life was changing a lot. We moved in, you know, just a lot of other distractions that were making it a little bit more difficult. But now we're at a pretty good cadence of at least producing the episodes, because we have a better systemization and we have help. We actually Rissell, who is our virtual assistant and a huge, huge resource for us at Greystone, but she helps us edit the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's awesome. She's so quick. Instrumental it's way more efficient.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, just instrumental in, you know, actually getting these, these episodes, published and then also contributing towards the marketing of some of that stuff too. So yeah, pretty awesome 3,000 downloads, just about, just about 3,000 downloads. And I think, you know, the first thing we should do is just say thank you to anybody that actually listened, and especially those that reached out and, you know, gave us a comment on, you know, one of the shows, and and, of course, all the guests that we invited to be on the show.
Speaker 1:I don't think that we would have been doing this for two years straight if we didn't have anybody listening, Right, I think it just goes to show, like you know, especially like in today's age where there's so many podcasts, there's so many things that you know you could put between your ears.
Speaker 1:And our shows aren't short, you know. They're not 10 minutes. Most of them are an hour, Some of them are an hour and a half. I mean, our longest was three hours and you know we sincerely appreciate you choosing to hear the conversations that we're having and, again, I think it just fulfills us knowing that people are listening and you know, and if anybody does actually comment and say, hey, you know, this has been relatable to me and I appreciate what you're doing, Like that kind of keeps me going, I would say oh yeah, the there's been several people who have reached out and either shared, like you know, the reaction to the show or personal experience that they had that was related to what we were talking about, or just like engaged in conversation about the, you know, sensitive topics we were talking about.
Speaker 2:That's been surprising to me and my most favorite thing by far is that it's opening conversations and I feel like early on in a couple of those episodes I kind of said I just think we need to be having more conversations. Everybody in the world needs to be having more conversations about different types of things, and this podcast has kind of been a catalyst to facilitate that and it's been really awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we heard that from somebody where they were like Jason, you may not realize it, but your shows cause conversations in our household.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, like, how, how cool is that comment? You know, and that's the whole point of this is that we're bringing the dinner table conversations and we're just broadcasting them, and I think it just helps people realize that the struggles are real and we're just talking about them openly and hopefully that brings some just alignment or a little bit more clarity to maybe some of the questions that people have always had. So yeah. Yeah, so anyways.
Speaker 2:So let's kind of reflect a little bit, let's kind of go through these 50 episodes of what were some big takeaways and some highlights here and I think the most like common recurring takeaway that we've had on the show has been with regards to 75 hard, like that first episode we did then kind of trickled to other people doing 75 hard and then those people came on the show and shared their story and now we've had several people on the show share their 75 hard story and it's been really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally. I mean yeah, we've had a number of 75 hard people. Dave and Amanda Lee were one of them. Nikki DeLeon an exceptional show with Nikki DeLeon. And let's see who else was John and Kira Quintero, episode 15. That one was outstanding. Let's see Lindsay Levi and Lindsay they talk about because Lindsay did 75 Hard, and it was life-changing for her. So she's you know she's got a lot of 75 Hard in there. Ira Torres, you know that was episode 18. She did 75 Hard. Let's see who else do we have?
Speaker 2:M 18. She did 75 hard.
Speaker 1:Let's see who else do we have. Manny, manny, yes, yeah, mariel and Mariel and James Yep yeah. Yep, yeah, manny Estrada, yep, episode 32. Oh, paige, oh, how could we forget about Paige? Oh man. Just you know super inspiring, oh man, just you know. Super inspiring. And for how young she is you know, to be doing 75 hard and to be completing it yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know the common theme that we heard from everybody who came on the show to share their 75 hard story right after we like turned off the recording device. It was like, man, I'm really glad that I like sat there and took the time to reflect, like it was really like an experience for the person on the show to sit there and be asked that many questions about 75 hard because they had done it. And then they just kept going Right. They kept going like with their tasks, with their new toolbox of things, and hadn't necessarily sat there and been like reflected on the growth that had occurred.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I and I think that's cool that, yeah, you bring up a great point because most, most people will ask you, well, how'd the program do? And maybe you'll talk about it for a few minutes with somebody who's just asking and passing. We sit there and talk to you for an hour or more about the life changing things, or more about the life-changing things, and I mean people just go, they go deep right and it's helped their relationships and it's helped their mindset, it's gotten them clear on where they're going. A lot of them have returned to the program and, you know, still incorporate a lot of those tasks in their daily life and, you know, just just a monumental program that we couldn't like speak highly, more highly of. And it's not just our testimony, it's all, it's all of our guests too, which has been really cool. They all say the same thing.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we had some real estate shows. We talked about how we first got started in real estate. We talked about how we went from zero to 13 rentals at the time. We have 19 now. We talked to one of our partners, Tim Botsford, and how he started as a house hacker and how that deal ended up going. That was a really fun conversation because now Tim has actually moved out of that property and he owns it just straight as an investment now. And really, really great story there because it ended beautifully. Levi and Lindsey Cain I mean just one of the best house hacking into their dream home stories out there.
Speaker 2:Your story is so inspirational, oh my gosh, just man.
Speaker 1:We had some audio issues on that one, but it didn't matter because the story was so good. We've kind of had some goof ups with our audio when we were first starting the podcast, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we've come a long way in learning. I mean, the first show that we did we actually recorded on our phone right, yeah, we did. We recorded it on the yeah, now we have a whole setup.
Speaker 1:I know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And we're talking about getting a studio. Where can we build out a studio?
Speaker 1:in our home, I know, yeah I mean, I still like it from the dining room table, because this is kind of fun yeah you know, we just invite people over to our house and or we've gone to them yeah, we did that.
Speaker 2:We did that with james and mariel and we walked a few times.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, same with lindsey and levi. Yeah, we went to their house and and did it. Dave and amanda we went to their house and did it. So that's what makes Amanda. We went to their house and did it. So that's what makes it cool. Let's see. Let's see. Jordan Warner talked about his first real estate purchase. We also went through. I gave some one-on-one episodes. You and I both did a couple of one-on-one or solo episodes. I talked about midterm rentals. You talked about your embracing vulnerability and Rachel's why, and the journey through motherhood and NFL auditions. So you kind of got into your big life moonshot goals and you know and really shared your story, which was really cool. I think you got a lot of great comments from having those out there, didn't you?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean, I think the biggest lesson I had from that is I always been so afraid to share that part of me out of embarrassment or judgment or not being good enough, you know. And the lesson that I had from that was I had so much support and positive feedback and even people reaching out to me being like hey, like you've inspired me to now chase something that I've always wanted to do too, you know, so that was super cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you kind of like. The big takeaway here is that if you're more transparent, you're able to help and relate to somebody that you don't even know, and a lot of us are just so fearful to even just put ourselves out there that, oh what if you know I can't take the critics or I can't take what people would think of me.
Speaker 2:If.
Speaker 1:I were to say these things, but in reality, I mean, is it true that you've received more positive feedback than negative feedback?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure. And even on like the less inspiring things and more sensitive topics, like some of the stuff we shared about with COVID or about childhood vaccines, has allowed people to reach out and be like hey, I listened to this and I completely agree and there's like a sense of relief that they have that they can finally share that with somebody and have somebody to connect with on. And I know from my perspective it's reciprocal of like, yeah, gosh, I finally have somebody to like, not feel so guarded with, and can share information and talk to about it and share concerns and just vent. You know, I mean, everybody needs that kind of outlet and it's hard to find sometimes with those more sensitive topics. So us taking that leap of going out there and talking about that has opened the doors for conversations that we likely would not have otherwise had.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, you would never. If you don't put yourself out there, you, you never know the type of bond that you could have with somebody who's also potentially thinking the same way or even even better, in my opinion, people that just don't even aren't even aware, right?
Speaker 2:And some of that too, where it's like, wow, I had never even heard of that or thought of that until you guys mentioned it and now I needed a little more. Right, there's this realization of, like gosh, I didn't know anything about that.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and so you know, we try to educate a little bit and we're also learning at the same time. These are all, just, like you know, these are the conversations that again, that any family is considering and that's why we just try to bring it to you live. You know, as we consider, hey, you know, should we follow the vaccine schedule? Should we have the COVID shot? You know what are the risks in there and like, let's, let's actually walk through the mindset and you know the the what if scenarios, right, I think being a parent in today's world is is somewhat exhausting.
Speaker 2:Like I was talking with my mom this morning and I was just kind of venting to her about the last couple of days. I've just been like a little more stressed and emotional about certain things that have been happening and she's like, you know, I'm just, I'm exhausted in the efforts of trying to do the right thing for my kids. You know it's challenging and it's hard and there's a lot of unknowns and it's like, on the one hand, a little more ignorant is certainly bliss, you know, because the more you know it's like, the more you worry about, which isn't really necessarily a good thing. But at the same time, the more you know, the more you're like okay, holy cow, I don't, I don't want that. How can I choose something different? Right? Yeah, it can be a little exhausting sometimes yeah, ignorance Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but at the same time, do you want to be ignorant? No, right, no.
Speaker 2:Cause. When, like Ms Jamie was on here a couple of days ago and I loved what she says, where she's like when you know better, you do better. She said that several times. When you know better, oh, yeah, yeah, miss jamie, just like tons of knowledge. Oh, she's phenomenal. Oh yeah, like she, I want to like bring her on.
Speaker 1:Just talk about like parenting, yeah she is not just a swim instructor like holy smoke, she's got, she's got layers and layers of just wisdom yeah, in there. That was a fantastic conversation like this is the fun part. It's just like you get to know these people on such a deeper level and we had some lessons today and I asked her if she listened to her episode.
Speaker 2:She's like, oh yeah, I was like pleasantly surprised to hear like how I sounded and you know, thought it was a great conversation and great Cheryl's like it was fabulous, you were great. And she's actually like contemplating thinking about doing like her own show.
Speaker 1:And I'm like you would be great. Yeah, she would be. Yeah. And it's so funny because all it takes is for because this happened to me. I got invited onto a podcast it was RJ's Mindset Matters podcast and I got all worked up about it and I was like, oh boy, I'm nervous, Everybody's nervous, when they come walking in our door Right.
Speaker 1:And you know, by the end of the show they're like, oh my God, I'm so glad I did that, Like it was just, it's just so much more engaging. It's fun. You know, the the mic is on the recorders here, all the equipments here kind of. You know, nerves you a little bit, but then you just relax. What's funny is that I think I've said this to a lot of people. As they left, I'm like, yeah, chances are you probably want to start your own podcast, Because it's fun, it's really fun to have these conversations with people. So I'm glad to hear that. Miss Jamie, I think she's got a lot to offer for sure. Who else had a lot to offer? Who was also very wise for their young age? Hayden Humphrey, Remember him.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, wise for their young age. Hayden humphrey, remember him.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah he was our first guest was he our first guest he was the first guest we talked about coaching with him.
Speaker 2:We each coached with him he did six months. I did a year and you know I will say the coaching that, at least for me I'll speak for myself the coaching I did with him over a year is still coming up for me almost daily. There'll be something that, like, I'm working through my head and I'm thinking about it and there'll be, like a piece that he had shared in a coaching session or something that he taught me that comes up for me today Like his coaching is still coaching me.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's so good, he's, he's fantastic. So, good and, in my opinion, he was undervalued in terms of, like, what he actually brought to us.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, like. I said I mean, that was three years ago now and I'm still like processing some of the things we talked about, like I'm still I feel like implementing and learning from the coaching sessions that we had.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, just tremendous. I'm so glad we invested that money into having a life coach. At that time, when we were doing 75 hard, we were kind of like we did it to like the extreme. I guess, right, we did 75 hard, we did coaching at the same time, yep.
Speaker 1:And then we did live hard and yeah, that was just like instrumental he's. He's got so many lessons. That was a great show. We also yeah, I mean part of Hayden's stuff. We talked about the 12-hour walk and vision boards and we try to do that as kind of like our goal setting a little bit. We've actually printed off vision boards and we have them hanging up on the wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm actually getting ready to do my annual goal setting for the year. I put it on the calendar so I actually have it. So we also did a training with Greystone. That was about the law of attraction and I know all this energy.
Speaker 1:You had a cup, you had some coffee.
Speaker 2:today, I had some coffee.
Speaker 1:Rachel's leg is like going crazy, both of them.
Speaker 2:If you look like I'm literally both of my legs are bouncing.
Speaker 1:I'm not just shaking this entire time, bouncing obnoxiously shaking this entire time.
Speaker 2:Good thing we're not recording this one video, but so we did that law of attraction training that's what it's called, right, a training that we did. And then, at the same time, I use those law of attraction planners, and there's like a little insert in there that gives you like a link to a hundred questions that you should ask yourself every year and I did it last year for the first time where you go through this hundred questions to ask yourself they're in all of the categories of law of attraction and then that's how you set your 50 goals. They want you to write out 50 different goals, which seems crazy, but it's actually. I know it's not that hard to come up with different things you want to do, though, because you check all the categories of your life and then you put them on a timeline between one to five years, like are they longterm, short term, girls, or whatever and then you know you create your vision board from there, so I'm getting ready to do that again. It was very effective last year.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I want to do a vision board, because everything has come true on mine, I know, except the chickens.
Speaker 2:I don't have chickens yet.
Speaker 1:But chickens. I don't have chickens yet, but the minivan came through the zip code going to disney, disney, gosh.
Speaker 2:Just I just gotta go to bali and get some chickens and I'm good to go yeah, well I guess I didn't make the team either there's still that, I know, yeah, I don't feel done with that yet. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no let's see that was that was a fantastic conversation. And let's see that was that was a fantastic conversation. And let's see who else you want to talk about David, amanda Lee. Oh, just the only repeat so far.
Speaker 2:There'll be some more repeats.
Speaker 1:There's for sure there's going to be other repeats, but so far they're the only repeats.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I would, what I would say about them, is their second episode. You could really sense the growth and the comfort that came that second time around of like not being as guarded, I feel like in their sharing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so they were episode 47, faith, family and freedom. And that was our first nearly three hour episode. We talked about all kinds of stuff. Yeah, extremely engaging, extremely engaging that entire time. I'm really glad that we went the length with them.
Speaker 2:Well, they're just such influential people in our life. I just look up to them so much and how they're raising their family, how they focus on their marriage and just type of people that they are really, really admire them.
Speaker 1:They're always just like and they're the ones that introduced 75 hard to us. There's always somebody who was it that, like you know, initiated it with you, right, and kind of set a goal for myself where I was, you know, trying to influence like 100 people, to do 75 hard, because I think it's just, it's that monumental. I think I got to like 40, which is still pretty badass, but it all came from like, think about it, it for Dave, right. So Dave and Amanda were the ones that introduced it to us, who then were able to impact 40 people through me and so I think some other people too.
Speaker 2:I think, oh, and they've touched other people, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And think about the people that you know I've been able to impact, who have then impacted their friends or their family members. It is a massive web that actually stems from David and Amanda Lee, you know, and that's powerful and that's really, really cool. Yeah, we had another business partner, a couple, Brian and Ashley D Simone. We did a house hack with them. We talked about their journey and that's fun.
Speaker 2:Live in rehab too, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that property is doing well and they still live there and, yeah, it's, it's going great. We talked to your sister about Gen Z insights, navigating high school politics and the pandemic, and that was episode 19. Yeah, we had a couple. The most recent, actually the 50th episode, we talked to other high schoolers which were our babysitters, campbell and Kelly, and I'm really thankful that we decided to talk to a younger generation to get into their mindset and just kind of know what's going on. There's one thing to just hear about what's happening in the schools through the media or, you know, word of mouth type thing, but there's another thing to actually have a real conversation with somebody that is sitting in those desks right, and for them to be vulnerable and to open up to us. In my opinion, because a lot of high schoolers they keep things from their parents, they keep things from the older crowd, right. I think it's really cool to be able to have that type of connection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope we can also branch the other way too and bring on some people from older generations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be.
Speaker 1:We've had some talks yeah, We've had some talks about that about you know, some of the boomer generation to kind of come on and walk us through some mindset things. And yeah, it'd be very fascinating, let's see. Oh, yeah, well, we talked to Andrew Caldwell, who was at Illinois state university and he is our summer intern here at Greystone and you know he's done some great things for us this, uh, this summer. It's been fun to talk with him and the reason I got connected with him was that he is part of the Illinois State University Real Estate Club and so I had somebody reach out to me from that club to come down and speak and you know it was cool to actually make an impact on, you know, some of the students there and then for Andrew to say you know, and out and to say, hey, you know, can I come intern for you this summer? And, you know, just create a position. So that's what we kind of did and it's been fun.
Speaker 1:We had Sean Good. Sean Good came on and he talked about estate planning and protecting your legacy Super educational episode.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Because, again, I don't know nothing about estate planning and I'm so glad we talked to him and it's actually so important for people that own real estate and especially married couples. But we talk about all different kinds of like family dynamic situations in that episode and why estate planning is actually so important so that you can avoid the probate and so you can avoid massive costs in the case of somebody dying, so that you can avoid the probate and so you can avoid massive costs in the case of somebody dying. So those are like just good episodes to get some knowledge on Melissa Garten, Censorship, Family Business and Critical Linking. Yeah, Episode 41. Very interesting Actually. We had a lot of people say, boy, I really liked hearing about Melissa's experience in China.
Speaker 2:Yeah, several people talked to me about her episode. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's such an interesting person. She's so interesting, she's so wise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so wise. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's see who else Leslie Dernberger homeschooling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leslie's phenomenal homeschooling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, leslie's phenomenal, yeah yeah, just a wealth of information with her and, you know, I think is helping us make some decisions on you know, is homeschooling going to be an option for us and why are people even considering homeschooling Right? And I think, as we have recognized that the trends of there's more and more people doing their homework, on homeschooling, I think it speaks towards the times and there's reasons, there's underlying reasons behind all of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to be perfectly honest, I feel like that's one of my biggest I don't know how I would describe it obstacles or decisions that I feel like I'm facing right now is whether or not to do that. It feels like a very, very big decision, but, as I talked to more and more people who've been in and out of it, it's like it. It doesn't need to be that decision because you can transition and adapt back and forth. Should you make the decision to do homeschool, you can actually change your mind and go back to whatever school you want.
Speaker 2:But that that is certainly, like I feel, like a really big decision on my plate right now.
Speaker 1:School you want, but that that is certainly like I feel like a really big decision on my plate right now. Yeah, yeah, well, and we, you know, you know you have Leslie who I think she had four kids, four kids that she homeschooled and you know, and now she's, she has a business where she helps parents identify the best homeschooling curriculums and she has a whole system for how she's able to pair you with, you know, homeschooling resources and at which I think is brilliant.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And we talked to Kate Salas, who's a mom that's doing homeschool right now, and I thought that was a great like just transition, because we go from somebody who is, who can give you all the resources. But then we also brought in a conversation of here's what it's like for me right now doing this, and I think that was that was really telling and I think it gave a lot of confidence if we do decide that we do want to homeschool our children, you know we've got fantastic resources right at our fingertips here. You know that can make it successful and I think that's why that's why we're doing this, that's why we're having these conversations, so we're kind of like, you know, investigating further. And then Miss Jamie Miss Jamie was great.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, we already talked about her, but she, we'll talk about her again. She was great. So, miss Jamie, bringing the ISR swim lessons into our life, and I was episode 49. We own a pool and our biggest fear was having our two kids fall in the pool and not be able to self-rescue. And Miss Jamie is the instructor that has basically transformed our kids into self-rescue machines.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Phenomenal sw-rescue machines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, phenomenal swimmers, Just phenomenal yeah, they had lessons today.
Speaker 2:and Layla is doing the breaststroke she just turned three in July, like it's just. And even Miss Jamie herself is like shocked by that too. She's just like, wow, look at what she's doing. And Scarlett just turned five and is doing front crawl, backstroke, elementary backstroke, breaststroke, just doing all the things.
Speaker 1:So I think Miss Jamie has been able to show us that kids are capable of doing way more than you ever thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it sparked me after we did the podcast episode with her. It sparked me to reach out to some of our current extracurricular providers or people like hey, like do you guys offer private lessons? Or like cause, after we did that episode with her. It's like, hey, like do you guys offer private lessons? Or like cause, after we did that episode with her. It's like gosh, like this whole mindset of do a brief period of a lot of practice when you're starting to learn something, because then the weekly practice that you're going to do from there on out you're going to get way more out of because you already know how to do the basic skills.
Speaker 2:Like I used to teach dance. I taught dance for like 10 years and it made me rethink of gosh. Like if I were to ever start doing that again or have the opportunity to own a dance studio or something like, the way I would structure a new student program would be very different. I think I would kind of mimic that ISR system because it's going to give kids way more confidence when they go into group class. You know, an activity like dance and probably really anything is like you have to go across the floor, you know, so you kind of have to do a skill in front of other people as you're learning it, which is really kind of like scary right, like you hold yourself back a little bit because you don't want to fall or you don't want to embarrass yourself or do it wrong when everybody's watching.
Speaker 2:But if you have that opportunity for a few weeks up front where it's private lessons, you know, just for a brief period of time, so not a long-term investment, but just initially wow, like I just think that's a brilliant approach. And so I've reached out to some of our kids' other instructors like hey, is there a different way we can do this, because this seems to work really well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a brilliant way to think about it, because, you know, if you just go hard at something for a short period of time, but you're doing it day in and day out, like you're just going to accelerate the skillset, like she brought up the whole point of you know, I don't know how to play golf. Well, I play golf like once a year and I've always said to myself, boy, I wish I was better at golf, but I just don't have like the time. If I were to learn golf right now, I would do the exact same thing. Right, it's like, all right, every single day for this month I'm going to go hit a hundred balls or whatever. I feel like by the end of that month, that would be pretty damn good, at least a lot better. Yeah, daily disciplines well, cool, cool, what. Oh, we got into some politics. We talked about bobby kennedy, we talked about trump, we talked about biden it's not relevant anymore it was not relevant.
Speaker 1:Where is he? Is he even running the country? No no, we've. We've known that for a long time.
Speaker 2:He's not running the country it's just like he just like ever since he announced he wasn't running, he just also disappeared. So it's like he's not only not running, he's just not working either yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a very unsettling situation that's happening there. But yeah, yeah, so we, we talk about a lot of things. What do you think as we move forward here, what do we want to kind of harp on?
Speaker 2:In this episode or for the show.
Speaker 1:No for the show, Like what's your, what's your vision on the next 50 episodes.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think we're going to continue to share our progression in business, our progression in parenting, our progression in life, because we're learning as we're doing this. I mean if, when we started this episode, if you would have asked me if we were going to talk about homeschool, like it wouldn't have even really crossed my mind, right. So I think we'll continue to share our questions and our lessons learned and obstacles that we're facing, because it's relevant, like you've said, like there's parents and business owners and just people are out there wondering the same things that we are having conversations about, the same things we are.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, and I guess you'll never. You'll never actually feel some things are taboo, some things are very taboo. And how do you initiate those conversations? Sometimes you can't, but if you throw on a podcast, you can talk about it or like you hear it in your ears. It starts helping your thought process around it. Hey, did you listen? Maybe you share the show with somebody. Hey, did you listen to that? What do you think of that? Right? So then maybe there's more conversations that are happening outside.
Speaker 1:That's what that's like the brilliance of what Joe Rogan did when he had Bobby Kennedy come on. I was just listening to Tucker. He was talking to.
Speaker 1:I think his name is Dave Smith, a comedian, and he talked about how Dave Smith was saying that one of the stupidest things that Trump could have done was start to bash Rogan. Because Rogan was kind of saying that hey, I really I like Bobby Kennedy, I think he's got great values and like like it was almost like an endorsement type thing and I kind of agreed. I was like why, you know you shouldn't attack joe rogan, because joe rogan did incredible things during covid yeah, and for him really, trump was kind of an indirect beneficiary of big time his actions, yeah big time, big time.
Speaker 1:And you know, and it's because of the podcast, but it's because Rogan wasn't afraid to ask questions and get the people on that were willing to share and put themselves out there. Bobby Kennedy was one of them, peter McCullough was one of them. That's why it was those two episodes that were, in this case, this Tucker episode. In this case of this Tucker episode, they called him heroic because they were speaking things that weren't allowed to to be spoken. They were allowed, but they're really not allowed. Right, there's the taboo part. And now we're in a world of. There's a lot of people that have started to, I don't know, just see the curtain come back, right, like. I feel like there's a lot of awakening that has happened.
Speaker 2:It's become more mainstream, right Like conspiracy theorists are no longer actually really conspiracy theorists are no longer actually really conspiracy theorists. I feel like there was one point I wanted to make before we we shift into kind of that topic. But the whole thing about trump and saying you know, gosh, I was really dumb of trump doing. Trump has done so many stupid political moves and that's part of the reason why I kind of like him is because he's really not a politician, he is just a guy who has run these huge businesses. He just says what comes to mind pros or cons for him, right Like it's not always smart, it's not polished, it's not always friendly, but I appreciate the in the moment honesty of just saying what he thinks and not making everything political. I am so fed up and sick of political moves and political agendas and you know the fluff and you know I can't stand listening to politicians. I actually couldn't stand listening to jd vance, because anybody who's talking that fluffy and swaying and instrumental beautiful campaign speech.
Speaker 1:I can't handle it. Yeah, you're talking about jd vance's speech at the rnc.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, I, I, actually I can't even like comprehend or listen to that anymore, and I agree, I had a hard time with that one too. There's been plenty of things that Trumpism I think are really, really stupid. You know we've talked about some of them, but I'm just like, well, I mean, I would rather him kind of do those types of things than be a politician.
Speaker 1:Did you listen to the spaces? The replay of Elon and Trump talking.
Speaker 2:I haven't listened to the whole thing. I just listened to the brief segment that we listened to together.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, and it was so funny because I think you, you saw the, uh, the share of all of the negative headlines.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was. There was probably like what 40 or 50 that were shared in just one little screenshot of all of these negative headlines, of that space conversation, which was just so funny, between Trump and Elon and in my opinion, I thought it was like, I thought it was a great conversation.
Speaker 2:It's just like this yes, it's just a conversation.
Speaker 1:It was a, it was a candid conversation about Elon, who is the smartest entrepreneur of all time, the most influential person in the whole dang world because of his inventions and his execution and what he's been doing, and he's just casually sitting down with Donald Trump and talking about the main issues that everybody has and and actually also coming up with. Well, here's solutions to some of these things you know he talked about how. You know he he wants to be a part of a government efficiency program.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was really that would be great yeah.
Speaker 1:Trump goes on to say, Trump goes on to say well, you talk about cost cutting. You're the best cost cutter of all time. You bought a company and you are able to operate it with a fraction of the amount of people that were actually there. Think about that whole concept with the government right, and that could do to inflation and prices, because now we're not spending so much, Now we don't have to collect as much taxes because we're not spending as much, right? All of a sudden, the world is like just a better place if that type of thing were to happen. Seems to make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2:So anyways we were talking about Joe Rogan and him being heroic with what he was doing. Well, yeah yeah, Circled back, but yeah right.
Speaker 1:And well, and that's what's. That's what's led to, you know, acts and Twitter being the place for freedom speech and you know, in that being more mainstream is that people can express their opinions. Now, because we know that we've been censored before and we've been able to defeat some of that, at least combat it not defeat it, but at least combat it. And you know there are people that have differing opinions that have turned out to be right and you've seen the blatant lies and manipulation that was used against those opinions and so, anyway, it's just being aware of that stuff, right, and it all comes down to like the podcast is kind of the platform that has transformed a lot of this. So I know our podcast is small, but you know we're doing our part.
Speaker 2:It's growing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways, all right. Well, any other thoughts you want to wrap up?
Speaker 2:I think you're right, pup.
Speaker 1:Okay, what was your biggest takeaway, as we just reflected on all 50. Well, I don't know. That's episodes.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's hard. I don't know if there's a takeaway today.
Speaker 1:There's no takeaway. No, okay, very good, all right, no takeaway today I'm thinking but what's your takeaway?
Speaker 2:You always ask me first.
Speaker 1:Well, you're the lady, the lady should go first, so not just a quorum. Uh, well, you're the lady, the lady should go first, so not just a quorum. My big takeaway is that I think you just keep going right. And I think just in anything. You just keep going and results will eventually come, just like our show. We've gotten a lot of just fulfillment out of just continuing to do it and inviting people and it leads to more and more conversations and thought process.
Speaker 1:But the moment that we decide that we don't want to do it and inviting people and it leads to more and more conversations and thought processes, but the moment that we decide that we don't want to do this anymore is the moment that a lot of these conversations will probably stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I think that that helped me kind of gather my thoughts. The last episode we did we actually haven't published it yet, but the moment the two high schoolers, kelly, wrapped up by saying you know, my biggest takeaway was the value that these conversations bring, and I think that's kind of been the theme of this last 50 episodes is the value that they have all brought to us and, knowingly, the other people that have reached out to us and shared is it's brought value to our relationships and a lot of value to conversation and I guess that's been my biggest takeaway is kind of an unexpected return on investment and unexpected value and connection that's come from it.
Speaker 1:Big time, yeah, big time, yeah, yeah, that's awesome, all right, thanks. Thanks, rach. Thanks for your takeaway. All right, guys, if you found any value in the show, please share it. We're excited to continue on and hopefully for another 50 more episodes. So thanks for listening. Please share the show and we'll catch you on the next one.