Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
“Real Life Investing” with Jason and Rachel Wagner is a multifaceted podcast that blends insights from real estate, entrepreneurship, family life, and political discussions. Known for their candid and engaging style, the Wagner’s explore how their conservative values shape their approach to both business and life. They often discuss their personal journeys in real estate, offering practical tips on topics like how to buy a house or investment property while navigating a challenging housing market.
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Real Life Investing With Jason & Rachel Wagner
58. Walking Away From The Democratic Party with Adriana
Join us on the Real Life Investing Podcast for a thought provoking conversation of shifting political landscapes with our guest, Adriana. As a Hispanic raised in a middle-class neighborhood with strong Democratic values, Adriana shares her compelling journey from a lifelong Democrat to a passionate supporter of Donald Trump and the Republican Party. This transformation highlights the power of personal experience in reshaping political beliefs. Adriana's story offers a unique window into the broader trend of changing political affiliations, particularly within Hispanic communities, as cultural values and economic frustrations influence new alignments.
With a background in education and family in law enforcement, Adriana details her first hand experience of leading classrooms with newcomer immigrants, and the mindset of today’s officers.
Enjoy this engaging conversation!
Welcome back to another episode of the Real Life Investing Podcast with Jason and Rachel Wagner. So I did a social media poll the other day and I was actually I was looking for people, or I asked the question. I was looking for people that had maybe left the Democratic Party and were going to be shifting to voting for Trump and the Republicans, and we wanted to have them on the show to at least kind of talk about that process. And I got connected because I post things online, People do respond. There's not a lot of people that respond, but there are a few and we got connected to Adriana, who is joining us today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming and just to kind of talk about this whole shift, because I mean correct me if I'm wrong you used to be a Democrat, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, I grew up. I'm 100% Mexican and I mean, that's how we, the neighborhood we grew up in, it's like working class, we're all Democrats, so it was like not even so.
Speaker 1:that's like. It's kind of like neighborhood mentality or, yeah, like a middle class.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was kind of like well, we're middle class and the Democrats do more for the middle class. So that was kind of the thinking.
Speaker 1:Where do you think that stemmed from? Where did that kind of mentality kind of come from?
Speaker 2:Well, I think that that back then it was like that. You know. You know I did see let's put it this way that I see that I align more with the Republican Party because they remind me of the Democrat Party I was raised with and with the ideas that I thought were good, and now the Democrat Party is just a complete different party. It's very radical and they do things that no way during my childhood would that have gone over well. So I definitely felt like and maybe I'll start with the fact that I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I just didn't really take him seriously. I'm like he's not going to win.
Speaker 2:My mom was sick at the time, so I really wasn't following too much politics, so I voted for Hillary. Didn't like her at all, but I was like that's the most obvious choice for me, being a Democrat. And then she lost and I felt indifferent about it. I'm like, okay, whatever. But I slowly started to see that the way the media was portraying him and my husband would say you know, that's not true, though, and so I started slowly. I'm like this can't be all. He can't be this horrible person. So I really started doing my own research and just saying you know what I really like this guy and it grew from that. So in 2020, I voted for him. He lost. I went to a rally shortly after he lost to DC. It was like the MAG March, I think it was called in. November.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it was the one in November and I went with two girls, two friends of mine. We got into the van at like 5 in the morning, got there and went to this march and we saw it was the most patriotic thing I've ever been involved in or been a part of, I should say. There was flags. We saw blacks for Trump, latinos for Trump, israelis for Trump, about 40 women from Vietnam. They were dressed in these beautiful gowns that said Vietnamese women for Trump, lgbtq for Trump, gays for Trump, and I was like I just felt so great to be a part of that movement. You know, even though you know the outcome remained the same he didn't win, but it's. I think. At that moment I was like I definitely know that I'm voting, I'm supporting the the right person, you know so, and then during this administration, it's been it's just more confirmation that we need him back, we need trump back. Yeah, so I'm definitely a Republican now.
Speaker 2:Tell me, tell me about, like, when you voted for Hillary in 2016 and Trump came into office, like were you upset with that outcome or were you just no, what what's funny is like I remember the thing that rings out, stands out for me is how she was denying the results, which is you know, you don't hear that anymore. Me is how she was denying the results, which is you know, you don't hear that anymore. Right, but she was like she said he's not. You know he's an illegitimate president and you know people went on and on about that and you know he must have cheated the russia russia, russia thing oh totally so.
Speaker 2:that to me, is really kind of like. That was my initial reaction is when she, you know, when she lost. And then, like I said, I don't think I thought much about it, but just being, you know, just doing my own research, my stuff, my husband would tell me and I would look and I'm like, yeah, you know, you're right, this guy's not a racist. Yeah, you know, you're right.
Speaker 4:This guy's not a racist.
Speaker 2:Can.
Speaker 4:I ask, when you say do your own research, where did you look? Because I think the hardest thing for people now is the mainstream media that they may have trusted most of their life is really, you know, quite not good.
Speaker 1:How do I?
Speaker 4:want to say it.
Speaker 1:You can't trust it anymore.
Speaker 4:You can't trust it anymore. Yeah, but how did you know that, or where did you look for for your information on Trump?
Speaker 2:So I turned to a lot of like reading, searching stuff up on the internet. I started listening, you know to Dan Bongino religiously. I listen to him every day. I'm a P1 listener, so I love him.
Speaker 1:He's, he's great. I listen to him every day. I'm a P1 listener so I love him.
Speaker 2:He's great. I listen to Ben Shapiro. I mean these guys.
Speaker 2:And Ben Shapiro. I mean he is so smart, the fact that he can just come back at you really well, I went to a Lincoln Day dinner and Charlie Kirk was the speaker and I mean just a lot of these things. So I started following them and confirming and and check and back, you know, like confirming what they were saying to not just saying, okay, well, if they said it, it's gotta be true. No, like I would actually go back and say, all right, let me look at the history in the middle East, the way Ben and I'm like, yeah, he's right, so, yeah. So I think I started to, I definitely stopped relying on mainstream media and I was just listening more Megyn Kelly, you know, and yeah, that's pretty much how it really confirmed things, for me at least.
Speaker 1:So did you turn to Fox News? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:So you tuned into Fox News.
Speaker 2:Yeah, love them all. Sean Hannity, tucker, carlson, I mean yep, all of them. I still watch Laura. Ingraham, laura Ingraham, yeah. So yeah, I do. I just I really like them. I think, and of course, people on the other side who watch CNN think that it's all entertainment news, fox News, and I'm like, okay, you know, go ahead. Just, you know, do what you gotta do. I'm this is what I'm doing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah and well. And then Ben Shapiro, cause he has his own. He's got a podcast too, right.
Speaker 2:And they're both on the radio. Oh, they're on on the radio, but they swear, and they can be completely much more raw when they're doing their podcast versus having to be live on the radio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, yeah. So when you were a Democrat, were you watching CNN?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, I never. I was never CNN watcherer. You know, I I did. No, I did like in probably I grew up watching abc news and then you know it's cbs news, I mean a little bit of local news. You know, wgn in the mornings because they make, they just make me laugh, yep, and they start my day off kind of light. But no, I mean I don, I don't. I definitely never watched CNN, yeah, and or MSNB like Rachel Maddow.
Speaker 1:No, I don't.
Speaker 2:I can't watch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it kind of sounds like a lot of your just initial like when you were part of the Democratic Party. It was just like that's what everyone around you was doing, type thing, and that was just like, just like the ideology, or just like the the way that you know, this is just how we vote, right, Right, just collectively, this is how we do it.
Speaker 1:And then it kind of sounds like you made the decision I don't know if there's other people that are part of your family that have also kind of followed your footsteps but you made the individual decision to actually find other resources and listen to other, more conservative radio hosts or conservative speakers, and you, really you made that. That change.
Speaker 2:I made that shift and actually one of my best friends I was talking to her on the way here and it was the same thing with her family. She's one of six. Everyone we were all grew up in the neighborhood in Wrigleyville and Wrigleyville was not what it is now. It was all like family. You know, my parents bought their house for $14,000. Oh, wow, in Wrigleyville, like right, yeah, it's crazy, but my parents chose to live in that area, so all our neighbors were were. All my parents chose to live in that area, so all our neighbors were we're all working class people. So so, yeah, it was just kind of normal for me and then I just started.
Speaker 2:You know I have one sibling that he votes Democrat because he's always voted Democrat. That was his. That's his reason, you know, and he'll watch David Muir world news and then he just listens to that and then he repeats everything. Watch David Muir World News and then he just listens to that and then he repeats everything that David Muir is like, dude, I could have just called you and told me what David Muir said. So, based on that, it's like do you ever bother trying to learn something? A lot of people are just either they, they use too busy to do the phone research or oh yeah, I just I don't pay attention. It's too stressful, you know, and I too try to disconnect sometimes, but I'm like I can't have my head in the sand, like I need to know what's going on, you know, not just on a local level, but kind of world, you know, or other states.
Speaker 4:So where do you think that need to know what's going on came from for you? Is it from personal experiences where you're like you know why is this happening, or I don't like that this is happening, or was it something else?
Speaker 2:Well, I know I have some law enforcement in my family and I have a lot of friends that are in law enforcement, and when certain big events happen, I remember the Ferguson event and how the ripple effect, you know, even in Chicago, towards the police was just like it just wasn't right. I'm like you know, like they were just demonized, you know, and that to me I was like as a child we would never have this. You know what I mean. Like you held teachers at to a high level, you know you respected them, you respected police, firefighters and stuff like that, and it just I just that was a big time for me, big shift for me, that I was like this something's not right. It just it's a gut feeling I have. You know what I mean. It's just like I know what I believe in and I'm not. I don't waver, I'll die on the Hill for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah. It's like police officers are no longer respected. Budgets are being cut. Brandon Johnson is actually cutting a lot of those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is One officer in particular. When he took the test many years ago, he took it at the United Center. That was how many people wanted to be in the department. Now you're lucky if you can fill up a junior college, you get 250 people. When it was like 2,000, 4,000. I mean, fill up the United Center, you know that's like thousands and thousands of people, you know. And then of course you know you make one list, you make the second, all these rounds. But people wanted to be in the department. And now there's like why? What incentives do they have? Right. And now there's like why?
Speaker 2:What incentives do they have? They're not, you know. If they're at threat of being ambushed, they can't do their job properly because anything they do is just going to be under, you know, a microscope. So I mean and the other people don't? Society doesn't respect them anymore, or at least not like in big cities, in Democrat cities, I should say.
Speaker 1:Do you think that that mentality towards the police can change back?
Speaker 2:I think it is actually slowly changing back. I think, as things are happening and the crime rate is they're starting because there's been so many the democrats have cut back. People in neighborhoods are really seeing that and like we need more police. There was some report that recently came out because brandon johnson took out the shot spotters yep so, and they they rattled off. Some numbers of these are the people that died. If they would have had the shot spotters they might have been able to get to that person and save them. You know, but I think brandon johnson said it's like it's racist, like to have that, and the thing is, unfortunately they hear gunshots all time, so it's not like they call every time there's gunshots. So police relied on those shot spotters to get to the scene and potentially call an ambulance or something, but that's not happening anymore, right?
Speaker 4:And how ridiculous. Because taxpayers paid. That was the taxpayer expense to have those put in. It's great technology. And then she's like we're not going to use them. Right, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1:He also made an incredibly terrible deal because he wasn't going to extend it.
Speaker 3:I mean, he only wanted it for a few more months for the DNC Right.
Speaker 1:And so the deal was just really bad. But which is really funny, because now he's come out and said that you know he's going to raise property taxes 500 more, something right. It was like 300 million, yeah, yeah. He wants to raise property taxes and try to cover the shortfall that they have. And you know he campaigned on not raising property taxes, and so there he goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, and it's kind of funny because I think everyone in Chicago saw the speech when he was supposed to go to the border but he didn't. And he said to the press I have a family, y'all, we have soccer practice. I'm a black mayor with a black wife trying to raise three black kids on the west side of Chicago. His kids literally go to the school one block away from me on the northwest side of Chicago and it's like Really, dude, no, it's not good enough for your kids, but you don't do anything to improve those schools on the west side who really deserve it. But because you're just like, eh, I'll put my kids in a different school. So it's just so hypocritical, so whatever.
Speaker 1:And you're a teacher.
Speaker 2:I am, yeah, I'm in education. I'm not in Chicago, in the suburb of Chicago, but I've been teaching for 23 and a half years.
Speaker 1:Is there anything that you've seen in the education field that's kind of changed lately?
Speaker 2:I feel like how colleges have a lot of professors who are indoctrinating people with certain ideas and molding young minds into believing it. It's almost trickling down from college to high school and then down to an elementary school level. Now, where I work, it's not completely woke. It's not completely woke and it's because there's a lot of Hispanics and I know Hispanics and some of that stuff wouldn't fly with my parents or the parents in this district. But I know plenty of teachers in CPS and they're just like we have to teach this and this. And I'm like what I'm like with the math scores and the English scores that we have, like that's the priority right now. You know to teach, you know, like I said, critical race theory and sex ed in a way that's like wow it's.
Speaker 4:You know it's really inappropriate, like they're really too young to you know it's really inappropriate, like they're really too young to you know comprehend that and so yeah, and those curriculum changes were changed, like at the state level, the critical race theory and the sex ed stuff that was changed by Pritzker right At the state level. So he's a gem Potentially impacting schools across the state. Obviously there's some variance in like neighborhoods and the comfort level of teachers.
Speaker 4:But, if you are kind of in a more woke area and potentially have new, fresh teachers right out of college, it's probably being taught as written.
Speaker 2:And I have a friend whose son goes to Queen of All Saints. Whose son goes to Queen of All Saints and she's like a lot of these new teachers are getting 24. You know that they're completely left woke, you know this, and that I'm like, well, as long as they don't teach your child this. But she's like, eh, they're trying, you know, they're like trying to inch certain ideas into them and she's like I put a stop to it. You know, and that's the the nice thing you have about when you pay tuition, you actually you get a say in what, how you know what your, the kids are being taught, you know, or how it's presented, you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, At least more of a choice. Yeah, yeah, and what we found is that some of the private schools, even if they receive some type of subsidy from the state, they still have a curriculum requirement. They do Right. Because if they want to get some money from the state, they have to have certain things that are taught. Is that?
Speaker 2:I mean, from what I remember, from no, I mean there was nothing that ever stood out to us that was like you're required to teach this, you know, and they whatever it was like during sex ed, they got all that talk. But I mean there's stuff that I don't, I can't, I don't even want can say out loud in front of people about how different it is than the public schools. You know that it's just like no, you know, I don't need my fifth grader learning how to put a condom on. That's insane. You know it's like it's not that it's not a reality. But keep that to high school Like fifth grade and sixth grade, like, come on, you know what I mean mean it's I don't know there's a. I mean I always thought that that kind of stuff should be the parents should teach, that school should teach some form in case the parents aren't teaching. But I mean to teach it responsibly, not from an encouraging kind of like oh, it's all very normal, and it's like oh, no, it isn't so.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it seems like overlap between what's at home and what's in the school has really really blended, especially in some districts and it it seems like there's some people in the education field who seem to think that there, that there's some sort of like I hate to use the word entitlement, but kind of that that the educator has a little bit more of a pull or a say on that child when it comes to these more sensitive things, because of the state.
Speaker 2:The Chicago Teachers Union is just a joke, the stuff that they you know. So if a teacher comes in dressed a certain way or you know presents or shares, I mean I don't, you know like shares, their lifestyle and their sexual preferences, it's like it's celebrated, you know. And not that those people shouldn't be teachers, but I mean the union will back them up 100%. I mean there's been like hate speech from Chicago public school teachers on Republicans, on white people, straight people, christians, and they can say whatever they want and they're protected by their union, whereas in most other districts if you say something like that, the union's going to really they'll protect you, but they'll say don't do it because we can't protect you from. The district ultimately has a right to get rid of you for certain things. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, interesting and it's hard on a high school level. A right to get rid of you for certain things. You know what I mean. Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2:And it's hard on a high school level I mean a teacher in Palatine they have to have a certain room set aside for kids that want to come to school dressed a certain way but then they change at school to like if they identify more as a boy, then they have a room where they can put under just more and that's because it's a secret from their parents, right?
Speaker 4:yeah, so that that's like kind of what I was getting at is like schools now not everywhere, but it seems like there's a trend now for schools to think that they can not only allow but kind of foster secrets of students from their parents. So we've got minors having these secrets at school with teachers and administrators from their parents. Parents have no idea that they're going by a different name at school or change. I didn't know this. Um, that there there's a whole classroom or area probably not a classroom but area where they can change clothes yeah, and dress like a different gender and their parents just may not know.
Speaker 2:Before going to school, they change back in the clothes they left the house with.
Speaker 1:Are you kidding? That is insane.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I guess like where did that mentality come from? Because I heard you say like there's your personal thought is like there's things that should be taught at home, and then there's you know things that should be taught at home, and then there's you know things that should be taught at school. And I think now it seems like we've like really kind of crossed some lines. Where has that come from? Like who's where'd that ideology come from, where school can be a place where you hide things from your parents?
Speaker 2:Right, I don't know. I think it's with a lot of this more awareness with you. Know with trans and hormone blockers and wanting to transition. Know with trans and hormone blockers and wanting to transition. So they, you know you as they feel like, as a teacher, as an education, you have to allow students to to be themselves when it's like they don't even know themselves yet. Right, they're still kids, Right it is. But and I understand that there is some homes where, unfortunately, the parents won't be kind if they found out that their child was doing this so they have to hide it. But at the same time, it's like it puts teachers in a really, you know, there's a lot of teachers that feel very uncomfortable about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I can imagine Like hey, if you're going to call my mom or dad, you know make sure that you address me as like what's on my birth certificate. You know Make sure you don't say Oliver, say Olivia, because that's my. You know, and the teachers are like okay, you know, and like I said, that's a tough spot because as a a teacher, you don't ever want to break your students trust.
Speaker 4:so they're in a tough position there yeah, and certainly like like you said before, like if, if there's something happening in the home, you guys are mandatory reporters, right? So if they're in an unsafe situation like then, it's certainly appropriate for school or administrators to step in and make sure that child's safe. But I just feel like we've really kind of blended the line. There's a big, big gray area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's just two different worlds now, and there's the at home world and then there's the school world. I mean, we were talking to a friend of ours just the other day and they're just like. You know, it's weird, my child's in first grade and, you know, I've still never met the teacher or haven't really established a relationship with the teacher.
Speaker 1:We are required to just drop them off at the door. We've never really seen their classroom. And then when we pick them up, they're at the door and, like you know, we never really know what's going on behind the front doors. So, to me as, as she was kind of explaining that to us, I mean, I was just thinking, this whole thing I'm like well, why is it that way? Now?
Speaker 2:and why are they not transparent?
Speaker 1:yeah, we understood that they were doing that during covid for certain reasons and like, okay, but we're a few years after covid and why do we still have these policies in place? Are we trying to purposely? Break that or make this. This is a whole different world that you can't be a part of.
Speaker 2:I think the reason in education we don't allow adults in because you don't know it's because of mass school shootings and stuff like that that really we don't encourage.
Speaker 2:Like, if a parent drops off a child and says, you know, can I walk them to the classroom, it's like unless it's like a kindergartner, that's bawling and like for the first few days you know, fine, you can, you know. And then after that it's like, no, you really got to stop doing that, because they need to like know that they're in school now and they can't, you're not going to stay with them. And it's worse when you come in and they drop down because now they're bawling in the classroom because you're leaving. But I think for school safety that's a big thing. I'm lucky that in our school we encourage parents to come in. We have opportunities for them to come in, visit the classrooms, find out what we're learning, participate in math games with their child and stuff like that. So we're you know, for us we try to do that, but it's I would guess that that it's more of a safety.
Speaker 1:So it's more of a safety push yeah.
Speaker 2:I believe that and that should. I mean, it should be like that. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, you kind of wonder sometimes is it like it's a safety push, but then they also can like hide behind or like there can be other things that start to start to occur because, hey, we've got this wall. That's in place and the wall, the first wall, is safety Right. And so then, then all these things can happen behind the scenes type thing, which is like okay, how many people know that there's another changing room, that if you, you know wanted to come in, and that's a good point. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:It feels, foreign for us because we have, like, full transparency at our school. We go all the way into the classroom for drop off and pick up and we see and talk to the teachers every single day and there's they. They have extra security at the doors. All parents have to wear a badge, and so you've got to, you know, have visible ID at the doors. All parents have to wear a badge, and so you've got to, you know, have visible id. But it's, it's a smaller, smaller school. There's not as many students and parents there, so there it's a little, probably a little more easier to manage.
Speaker 2:But you know, I think what was crazy is during covid, seeing these virtual classrooms. Like they had like all these emojis, like it was. It was. It was cool, but it's like you saw, so they have. You can like jazz these up really well and you and there was a lot. I was surprised. It was a lot of blm stuff in the background, like you can put like a banner, blm banner and you know, and they can, they'd have pictures of like obama there, but there was no trump and it's like he's actually the sitting president, but there's like no way. So that to me it was like you know, and I actually asked the union about it like isn't that wrong? They're like, uh, it's their classroom, they can kind of do whatever they want.
Speaker 4:I'm like, yeah, so that that's interesting too, I think, is the current events and the political time, like what's allowed to come into the classroom and what rules are around facilitating conversation, cause in theory it should be. If you're going to talk about it, you should present both sides evenly and fairly and allow open, fair and, you know, respectful conversation. But you do see a lot of clips of of of teachers being very, very one-sided and not having open, fair and conversation, and I guess I'm curious are there rules you know for educators, or maybe just in your area, surrounding that? Or like because you've been a teacher now through some pretty, pretty volatile times where I don't know what grade you're teaching, but students may have questions because of things they're seeing on TV, things their parents are talking about, what's just happening in the world. I mean, they've lived through a lot right.
Speaker 2:That's funny. You say that because I had two students today One is from Columbia, the other one's from Venezuela and they said teacher, who are you voting for on tuesday? And I said, wow, yeah, you know they're. They're sixth grade, so they, you know, they know what to ask and pretty insightful when it comes to stuff. And I said I I'm not going to discuss that with you. And they're like well, well, we hope you vote for Harris. And I said Michael, why is that, tell me. I'm like maybe that'll help me decide, you know.
Speaker 2:And they said well, because if Trump wins, we're going to get sent back to our country. I said that's not necessarily true. I said there's a certain responsibility that we have to have for not families, but people. I said you have to understand there's a lot of people that are entering that want to do a lot of harm. I said I'm not talking about you guys. I said there's people coming in from the Middle East, from other countries, that we don't have good relationships with. I said and as long as you're not committing a crime to me that's kind of how I understand it with the rollout will be. Is that hey, if you commit a crime and you're not, then absolutely you know what I mean. I'm like I don't envision people going door to door and going, okay, your family is going back immediately. Like no, I don't.
Speaker 4:I don't see that happening. Yeah, definitely, I think they've. Both Trump and Vance have said multiple times that the priority is getting the criminals out, cause we we know who they are Like, we know which not all of them but we have a nice long, hefty list of criminals who have come into the country and then people who aren't contributing contributing and assimating right like, obviously, if you're a family, that's come in, your kids going to school, you're working that's it how I look at it.
Speaker 2:With my students I'm like you know what these, these kids are, you know they're. If their parent parents are putting them in school and registering them in school, then that tells me that they really are one that generally general they're, genuine, I should say, in wanting their kids to have a better life, be educated. So I mean those are actually some of my favorite kids because they're the most respectful and humble. You know, the ones from Columbia are just, you know, if I ask them something, si, señora, and you know, maestra, profesora, I mean they're so nice, you know, and they'll correct the other kids. If they speak to me in the to form, you know they'll like correct them. You know you have to speak in the usted form. She's a teacher, you know. So it's really cute. So I mean I love those are my favorite kids actually, because I really think they appreciate things much more than a lot of the kids that are born here.
Speaker 4:So can I ask, have you seen a lot of increase in that type of student over the last few?
Speaker 2:years. I have 16 in my classroom out of 25 that are all comers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, 16 out of 25. Wow.
Speaker 2:Some of them were here for fifth grade, but I have eight that just came to the country, like in spring and summer, so they just got here and they speak zero English. In sixth grade, mm-hmm, and half of my instruction is in English. So it's like, well, this is really cruel. These kids don't understand anything. So of course I translate. I translate everything for them because I'm like I need them to learn to be able to comprehend something. But you're able to.
Speaker 4:I'm able to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's instructors who I'm sure aren't no no, I mean, you put me in that position. There's no way. There's no way.
Speaker 4:So I guess, if they had a teacher who only spoke English, how are they teaching kids who don't speak English?
Speaker 2:So they have in most buildings. I'm only one of three that does it by themselves. Most other buildings have someone who does English and then someone who does the Spanish, and that's what. When I started out, that's how it was it was given a different name, other than dual, but I taught in English. I had a teaching partner. He was teaching in Spanish. We'd switch during the day and then he would give that instruction to my kids in Spanish and I would give his students instruction in English.
Speaker 2:But the goal was different. It was to get them out of the bilingual program to be able to be in a general education class. Now the goal is to maintain them speaking both languages, being able to read it and write it and speak it very well. Well, that works when you start in kindergarten with the two languages. But these kids are just coming and they're like expected. You know what I mean. It's not a best, you know. It's just kind of like the government. They weren't prepared to accommodate, you know, and so it's carrying into education. Yeah, to accommodate, you know, and so it's carrying into education. They're not prepared to be able to give these kids the best education.
Speaker 2:So you are grading them, I mean sixth grade, you give out letter grades, right, we give out no, we're standards-based. Okay, so which is four is the highest, one is the lowest. And to our parents, they don't understand that. They see, you know, okay, they're not failing. We can't fail them. Okay, all right, you can't fail them, you can't fail them.
Speaker 4:No, we're just not allowed to. So how? I guess I've heard this in other places too. But how is that helping them? It's not, so why are we doing that? Like what's the goal?
Speaker 2:Numbers. I mean you have to like schools get more money if they have more minorities, if they have more kids in special education. That's interesting, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:They get more money. Even if they have kids more in special education, they get more money. If they, even if they have kids more in special education, they get more money yes, the school district does okay.
Speaker 2:So, you know, federal title one is for, like, lower income areas. Title three are bilingual funded, you know. But so yeah, I think, I think it's. It's maybe a if you, if you you fail kids and you're like, well, then you're not doing a great job, so you may not get as much funding. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure, but I have. I mean, from what I've talked to about other people's, it's really about the numbers and who you have.
Speaker 4:So when students are arriving here from other places, we're just basically placing them based on age. Yes, there's no like placement test. So even if they were, wherever they came from, not going to school there, they're gonna come in at sixth grade because that's their age exactly it's a hard job for you and educators well, I mean, thank god, my, the, my newcomers are Hispanic.
Speaker 2:But other school districts like Skokie, where there's like 20 languages represented or something crazy, Wow. Then it's like well, what are you going to do if you have all these people that are coming from some country in Africa? As long as you have more than 22, then you can hire a teacher that speaks that language. But if you don't shy of 22, then you know it's like well, how are we going to serve these kids?
Speaker 4:So we've heard of a lot of school districts, even in our area, that seem to be like overcrowded and so they've got kids in like these module trailers or whatever Is your school? District experiencing that at all, or do you know, like what the root cause of that has kind of been? Because overall, like birth rates are down in America, so you would think that you know, classrooms would be getting smaller, but now we've got this influx of migrants coming in, so is that, I guess, is that having an impact on class sizes, you think?
Speaker 2:That I know for CPS they really, if they don't, if they don't have to hire another teacher, why not just keep giving her? I mean there's some CPS classrooms with like 36 kids, you know, and it's just like there's no. I mean how?
Speaker 4:do you teach them? I know you can't money it's such a disservice to the students I was told, I tell sometimes.
Speaker 2:Well, I tell my the teachers that I have friends that have those situations. I'm like the only way it's going to change is if you talk to the parent and say and they go to the school and say, hey, my kid's not teaching because there's 35 other kids in there, you know, and they have to put up a stink with the school because, if not, they're like, hey, we're just having to pay one teacher, you know, for yeah, they think they can get away with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, and a lot of like, a lot of kids, parents who are migrants. I mean, when I started in the district 20 years ago, you know, parents were very scared and they were like I had a lot of newcomers then, but I mean nothing like now, but parents were afraid to go to the office and complain or something because they were afraid of that they would be deported. Or, you know, I have to show, I'm like no, you don't have to show anything, but you have a right to say something If your child isn't. You know, whatever is being bullied, whatever it is, you need to complain about this. But they're scared to because they feel like you know that the school is going to call immigration on them. It's like no, no, no, where we would never do that. So I don't know, I mean?
Speaker 4:what's the response from the other families who have lived there and they're born here and they're part of the community? Are they welcoming or open or frustrated or?
Speaker 2:there there is a little bit of both. There's some families that really are unaware of, like other students that are coming in, but there is some, you know, strong feelings from some parents about certain kids from a certain country that they're not very happy about how things are going, you know, but yeah, it's like something that I can't really you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so, but yeah, because they just feel like they came here and didn't get much when they came here and they worked hard in this and then they're seeing some families that are getting like a lot of things to like and they're like, wait a minute, we never got any kind of help on that. So I think that's the part that you know infuriates them.
Speaker 4:Trump's kind of had some interesting things that he's mentioned around education. Like he's kind of tossed around like getting rid of the what is it? The board of education or department of education and then he's tossed around like the school choice certificate program. Do you have any thoughts on on that with his I.
Speaker 2:so school choice is basically like if you, they'll pay for your child to go to Catholic school, right, If you opt to have that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like everybody gets the same dollar amount based on your taxes for that area, and then you take that ticketed dollar amount to whatever school you want, right?
Speaker 2:So that's what they no child left behind. I think that Milwaukee was doing that. I think that Milwaukee was doing that and a lot of the parents were opting to go to parochial schools with that school choice certificate. So I think, why not? I mean, I personally think it's a great idea to give the parent a choice. If their local school is not delivering, then they should be able to go to another school. You know, I mean I paid, we paid taxes for our local schools and we didn't even send them to the public schools, you know, but we paid it.
Speaker 1:So I mean a lot of our tax dollars goes towards the public schools. And if you don't even participate in the public school. It's like and if you?
Speaker 4:don't even participate in the public school.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, you're paying double, right, that's where the school choice really does come into play, because we're paying into that, and then we still have to pay tuition. So I wanted to ask you mentioned you gave a really interesting stat. You said 16 out of 25, I believe, is the newcomers in your classroom. Do you think you could quantify how many are in the school that maybe came?
Speaker 2:In the school together. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:If I have to give a guesstimate, we're talking in our school. We're a smaller school, but we probably have somewhere around 60. But, like I said, we're a small school. I work in a big school district. Our junior high has like 3,000 students. So there's a lot in our district and primarily they're coming from Latin American countries, our Spanish-speaking countries, I should say, because our school district is much more the. The community itself is definitely more hispanic. So I think it's easier for them to move there than if they were to move to another area where perhaps it was more of a indian. You know what I mean an indian where they didn't, couldn't assimilate so how did they find?
Speaker 1:like how I would just imagine, like I wouldn't even know where to go if I was a immigrant coming in, like how do I, how do I find these school districts?
Speaker 2:or like what back in back in the day. Like I said, when I started 20 years ago in this district. It's interesting because you had and even actually when I taught in Chicago, there was a lot of kids from the same part of Columbia that would come and a lot of kids from the same part of Mexico. So what I think would happen is that they had family members that were already here, and so they were like if you come over, you're going to stay with us until you get on your feet and this and that. So they knew like if you come over, you're going to stay with us until you get on your feet and this and that. So they knew that way.
Speaker 2:My father didn't know where he lived in California. I heard that there was more work in Chicago and he either could move into a little village or Pilsen like a Mexican neighborhood. And he's like I didn't leave Mexico to go live in a Mexican neighborhood. So he just like, initially had his own little apartment and then, when he went back and married my mom and they came together, they found an area which was Wrigleyville. They're like, yeah, this is nice. It's not that they didn't want to be around Hispanics at all, but it's like they're like. I don't want that to be. Like I want my kids to be around Hispanics at all, but it's like I don't. They're like. I don't want that to be like I want my kids to be born American, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, with English, as Americans, and you know I don't want that stereotypical kind of lifestyle, you know, but it and I think a lot of people from that generation had the same mindset, you know so, and definitely like working hard. I mean, I think if my parents were alive today they would be absolutely so sad about what's going on. You know Really, I definitely think so, really. I know that, like my mom would be beside herself with certain states with their abortion laws and their term limits, I mean my mom would just be like like, oh, my father, you know, you know, father, you know, she would do like crossings. She would say, you know, hail Mary, you know, because she would just be like this is awful.
Speaker 4:So that's an interesting point. So you said you're 100% Mexican, mexican and most Mexicans are very Christian, is?
Speaker 2:that correct Catholic Catholic.
Speaker 4:Christian, yeah, and so abortion is really not something really supported in that community. Is that a fair statement?
Speaker 4:Absolutely so it's interesting then to hear, like you kind of have, like this, unwritten understanding in the community that you vote democratic and now the democratic party is like completely so far yeah and so that was probably like a real internal struggle for, or, I would imagine, for some people. Knowing that I mean kamala harris. I feel like most of her campaign has been so far around abortion, abortion, abortion, women's rights, women's rights, women's rights, women's rights, women's rights.
Speaker 2:I guess I don't know exactly where my question is going, but but yeah, no, absolutely For Hispanics it is definitely not something that is. You know, if your daughter came home pregnant, like it was like okay, but you're pregnant and you're going to have this child, you know, I tell my daughter because my daughter is much more liberal, she's you know, I tell my daughter because my daughter is much more liberal, she's you know, I got a piece of something in the mail and it was from some pro-life organization and she's like Mom, you're not donating to this, are you? I said I don't know, I haven't even opened it. Well, have you donated in the past? Why are they sending you this? I go, I don't know how I got it. I go, but I get tons of stuff. I go, I get stuff from St Jude's. I I do donate every month to them.
Speaker 2:And I said I know I probably won't send them any money. I said, but I'm not going to send money to a pro-choice organization either. And she was like well, you know, please tell me, you're pro-choice. I said you know, that's really that's been an internal struggle for me because I did consider myself pro-choice, you know, and I'm like I told my daughter I had friends in high school that got pregnant and I even went with them, you know, but they were like 12 weeks, nine weeks, 12 weeks ago. I can't, I can't, you know. Like if I had the same thing, if I had to choose today based on what I'm seeing, I'm like I think I'd have to say I'm pro life, just because of the radical, you know, being able to abort a child at 28 weeks, you know, in seven States, it's like four, no, no questions asked. You know, you can go right up to the very end and I have a big problem with that.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's because of being older, having had children, like to me, kamala hasn't had any kids, right. So I honestly, I'm like I don't think she knows that like you start to feel that movement at 20 weeks, you know. So I can't fathom myself being in that situation and saying you know, at 30 weeks, you know what? I just can't afford another kid, I'm going to terminate it. Yeah, you know what I mean. I just can't. To me it's like it's not your body anymore, you know. It's like you know, and people are like well, that's their business, they have to answer for those. No, no, but I mean, I think we have a right as humanity to say you know what there's. It's not just your life anymore, so, but yeah, I don't know if that's something that will be solved at any time you know, yeah, yeah, I guess I guess your whole point was you know, mexican community is very catholic.
Speaker 1:The left mexican community votes historically with the democrats democrats are just pushing abortion. Is there a crossroads that you think that maybe some people that you know that are like am I more? Are they giving up on their religious beliefs more?
Speaker 1:I guess, that's, that's what we're trying to say, right yeah because, well, if I'm, if I'm gonna vote for the democrats, who, just you know, is is all the pro-choice stuff, but it goes against my belief in the religion. Do you think that people are saying, no, I want to take my religion, I'm going to vote?
Speaker 2:yeah, I definitely think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's interesting so you think the religion has a, has a, has a stronger pull, and I think even talking about religion is so taboo, you know, it's like even mentioning, like you know I mean they like whenever trump or jd vance says anything about jesus or christ, and you know, people are like, oh my god, you're, you know you're, you're just gonna convert every. You know what I mean. It's like no, it's, it's not that. But I so no, I I think, and I love it. Ronald reagan said that hispanics are republicans. They just don't know it yet. Yeah, and it's true, because it's like you know when, really, when you think about it, it's like we really align more with the republicans of today than the democrats. You know, like I, that shift for me was like Republicans now are like my Democrats that were for the working class.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean. So, yeah, I mean so and I think religion does play a role in it. I know I've I can't tell you how many Hispanics I've talked to that said that, have told me they pretty much know how I feel. But they've come up to me and they're like, yeah, we got to vote differently, we can't do this anymore. And I'm like, yeah, I've been telling you that. And they're like, yeah, I'm done, this is just getting out of control.
Speaker 2:And you know, on several different, the prices of groceries, gas, rent, this mass influx of, you know and I don't think any of us have a problem with immigrants coming in and I really try to stress that I don't have a problem with them it's that we don't, they're not vetted. There's no one to sit there and go wait. You know, oh wow, you're wanted in your country for like murder. You can't come. You know there's nothing. That's the biggest problem I have with it. So, yeah, I think a lot of people are very frustrated about that and, like I said earlier with you, with Mexicans, they're like we didn't get anything when we came here and they're proud that they didn't get anything. It's not like they're saying I want reparations. You know what I mean, or?
Speaker 2:retro pay or whatever. Because of this they're not, but it's like you know, they're just like this isn't right. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you post a lot online. Do you get good comments? I mean, you post pretty regularly. Mm-hmm. It takes a lot of courage to do that. What's kind of the feedback you've gotten.
Speaker 2:So the person that put us in contact, I kind of called her. I said you know, do you think this is? You know, should I not do this Because, you know, am I putting myself at risk out there? She's like with the stuff you post on Facebook, I don't think you could get any, you can't, you know? I think it's pretty obvious. If you posted that and nobody said anything to you, I think you'll be fine you know, and, if you notice, I don't put anything that's really false.
Speaker 2:I fact check everything before I put it on there. I don't put anything that's racist because I'm not. I don't put anything that it's against. I'm not homophobic. I don't post anything against LGBTQ community. To me it's like do your thing, you know you deserve to be treated equal. Don't make me, put me in an uncomfortable place where you know I have to. It's like it's always in our, in our face a little bit too much. It's like you know what. You're almost calling more attention to people, that people are like enough already I said just be like, just come on, man, just all, we're all the same.
Speaker 2:So I don't think I put anything under there that's wrong or inflammatory. I mean you tell me. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, no. Well, I think that we're just such in a day and age now, where you can't, everyone has to choose a side, but you can't publicly choose a side. Right, and it's just.
Speaker 4:People are fearful.
Speaker 1:People are so fearful because there's just so.
Speaker 2:there's so much division, right, there's so much division, and like, for instance, I can never put a Trump sign up on my lawn where I live, you know, maybe now it would be better because I have seen them and I'm like I always want to be like you're braver than I am. You see him in Chicago, uh huh, in my neighborhood. I've never seen it until just recently walking around and I'm like I haunt it yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, because I'm still like you know what? They could easily throw bricks at my front window.
Speaker 1:Have you heard of that actually happening?
Speaker 2:I've heard of them like either trashing the signs, like grabbing them and like breaking them in half and stuff like that, but I just don't put it past it. I mean, just the way the hatred in this country or in the city towards Trump supporters is so scary that it's like I'm not going to. You know, I'm not going to put anyone myself. Actually, my kids are not even here, so it's probably a good time to do it, but no, but I'll have a JD Vance one in my lawn in four years, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I kind of want to go a little deeper on this, because Rachel said the same thing to me before I put out we have not just one, but we've got two Trump signs and a flag, so three items out there. And rachel said this to me she's like I'm terrified that you had put that out there. Somebody might throw a brick at her or egg our house or something, and the reality is, is that that that hasn't happened? And if we were in the city, would I have done, done this the same way? I don't know. I don't know. I probably would have gotten the confidence to do it eventually.
Speaker 1:But I also wonder if there's a potential fear buildup and I think this is a big thing that's happening within this election cycle. Is that there is a fear buildup that happens in our heads that we think that there is going to be a certain outcome? Because potentially it comes from mainstream media in which right now we are seeing so much fear pushed from the left, as we're just days away from the election. There is just so much fear if the republicans get in. You know world World War III is starting, or you know everybody's getting deported and you know this is Nazi Germany. I don't, I don't know. I part of me just wonders well, what's, what's? The reality, you know, is there, is there just like this. There's so much fear that's building up in our heads that we can't like publicly say who we're supporting, or yeah, I think it's a perception of the people.
Speaker 2:I mean, I hear it from my family most. I'm like there's a great division in my family. Now. I have four like four nieces and nephews and a sister-in-law who is our trump supporters. We're like the only ones. The rest it's like oh my god, he's vile. I mean just the things that they say, you know, and it's funny because they'll look at me, they'll be like he, like his supporters are like white supremacists, and I'm like well, so am I a white supremacist? Like is my husband? Oh well, no, not you guys.
Speaker 1:Well, right, are we excuse?
Speaker 2:me where is this.
Speaker 1:Where is this mindset coming from? Right it's. It's because that's the messaging, and that's the messaging that everybody is being exposed to. Is that, oh, nobody here is a trump supporter, even though you're sitting here at this table. We think that you're on our side because we don't look at you guys as white supremacists, but every other trump supporter is a white supremacist, right. But you're on our side because we don't look at you guys as white supremacists, but every other Trump supporter is a white supremacist, right. But you're like well, no, I'm a Trump supporter.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I guess, I guess. I want to ask you, like, as you were kind of well, that was kind of a racist comment that he said, or maybe that was a little offended by that, because there was a lot of rhetoric back. I don't. I don't want to say rhetoric. There was a lot of media around him saying that you know, all Mexicans are rapists and what's the. Thing that CNN says all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he that he called a racists and murderers and I think I was talking to you about the other day. It's like actually go back and listen to that speech, because he never used the word Mexicans. He said Mexico is not sending their finest and at the time that was true. You know what I mean. It's like you know. I mean it's. Yeah, I mean the ones who were leaving and coming here. Yeah, you had a lot of cartel, a lot of gangs. I have tons of family in Mexico, more cousins there than I do here, and they all love Trump. I'll tell you, they love him, I mean, and. But they also all have. They're educated, they're engineers, they're, you know, in finance, you know. So they never want to come here. Why would they? They have everything. They, you know they have what we have, but just there in their own country. So it's like, no, I mean so, but they love Trump.
Speaker 4:See, trump see, and I just I find this so interesting. Something similar just happened with puerto rico too.
Speaker 2:You know, like the a lot of media just came out. The senator, oh there's.
Speaker 4:Yeah, though, you know they're this. They're so offended by this comedian who spoke at trump's rally or whatever, and then, like the next day, was it the president of Puerto Rico?
Speaker 2:The senator who is a shadow senator. I think that she doesn't have any power, but she doesn't have any like she's a senator, but I don't think she does any participates, you know, is an active participant. It's almost by, like I think they called it a shadow senator or something, but yeah, she came out and endorsed him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and I just I've had this, like we've talked about this before where I just feel like these, like white liberal women tend to be the most offended group of people and it's like they're speaking for all of these other groups, even though there's people in those other groups who are like wait a minute, like you just said, like I'm not a white supremacist and I support Trump, so like what the left is saying is is not really representative of everybody in the group.
Speaker 2:And no, and actually on my Facebook posts, most of the people that either like it or comment are women and I'm like some of the guys a couple guys, friends of mine will say something or comment, but it's always like the same five that are like will comment on it. And it's kind of funny because it's like well, trump is supposed to be such a pig and everything, and it's like no, because, yeah, he's sexist.
Speaker 4:He's racist, he's all these things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's the thing and don't get me wrong I mean he doesn't have. He's funny, I think Trump is very funny, but he doesn't have. He's not polished, no, in his speech. I agree, and I, you know, I tell people that, yeah, you're right. And sometimes you see that stuff and you're like, oh, dude, you shouldn't have said that. Yeah, but it still doesn't take away from his policies. And I tell people I'm like, listen, is it? You either have to like a univote for the love of country or you're going to vote for hatred of man, like what is your meter? You know, because I love my country and if Joe Biden would have done an amazing job, you know I would be kudos, I would give him credit, but he didn't. But it's like, ultimately, I feel like we're such a target now and if Kamala wins I mean it's going to be open season I really think that we're really looking at really bad times.
Speaker 2:I think there's going to be a lot of civil unrest within the city if… If Kamala wins, yes, I think there's going to be a lot more of Trump wins in certain areas, but I really think that I've I've talked to a lot of people and they're like we're not going to let this one go, we're going to make our voices heard, you know, and then it always. Then you get people like oh well, you know, january 6th was an insurrection, oh, this and that. Really, I'm like oh well, you know, january 6th was an insurrection, oh, this and that, really, I'm like, come on, I'm like so you think something is going to happen no matter the result no matter the result.
Speaker 2:Right, I do. I do think that people are not, you know, and that's providing that we find out that night.
Speaker 4:I know We've been saying that too. How long is it going to take before we even get a result?
Speaker 2:I mean we're like supposed to be such a first world country.
Speaker 4:We can't figure that out. I know We've got some states saying they need like two weeks or something crazy.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous, yeah, but I think I am so happy about people voting. I mean, I've never voted early in my life and I went and voted already because I'm like nope, and I tell people vote early, vote in person. I'm like because I don't trust these people as far as I can tell, the day of they could be like we ran out of ballots paper ballots, which I think already happened in Nevada and they were, you know, suddenly a pipe burst.
Speaker 4:Like some other. Yeah, like that happened in 2020.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I mean something is going to be like or the Internet's down.
Speaker 4:Right, you know there's some act of God that's stopping voting from occurring.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. I was like I need my vote to be counted.
Speaker 1:Right, well, and something did happen in Pennsylvania, right. So they kicked people out and they sent them home, and a judge found that to be not legal, and so now they extended early voting a few extra days in Pennsylvania. But as I'm following, some of this coverage of what's going on for those extra days of voting is that the lines are like five hours long because there's only like two or three people working or something like you know there's there's low there's low staff, right, and so I don't know if it's totally.
Speaker 1:You know if that report is very accurate, but you know I'm not there. But at the same time, if, if that type of stuff is happening, you know, I'm just glad that the republicans are are calling it out. Clearly that was a victory if you have a judge that said, no, we have to allow a few more extra days because you guys were kicking them out. There's some, there's some stuff that's happening and it's it's uh, not uh. It's not right to say that it doesn't happen, because it's very clear that there's issues and so it needs to be cleaned up and I hope we have as fair of election as we can here.
Speaker 2:Well, I think Laura Trump is doing a much better job at overseeing this. Well, look at what happened in Virginia, where he said no, I have a right to take these people off the ballot who are not citizens. So it's like and I want to say I saw that in Arizona, but I don't know. It popped up on my feed, but I wasn't sure if a judge there said up on my feed, but I wasn't sure if a judge there said yeah, you're allowed to block people from, you know, from voting if they're not citizens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, well, there was, uh, there was kind of conflicting um reports of that, because I did see that where one of the States was able to take them off and then, but then there was another state that was able to keep them on Right, and it's so. It's like, why would you, why would you want to have non-citizens voting in your elections? Clearly, the Democrats want that, because the Democrats benefit from that, because the Democrats are the ones that let in the migrants, and so the migrants probably just feel that we have a duty, in which you've already kind of explained that. Oh, you know, you're so gracious, we will vote for you because you've let us in.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It's what they've been doing ever since Lyndon B Johnson, you know. I mean he was a racist, like there's so many, a lot of accounts of him being racist and you know he had. His ideology was like give these people free public aid, this and that and then they'll continue. These. He uses very nasty language, these, you know, people will be voting Democrat for the next 200 years.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know, so I mean it's definitely. I mean I knew I could see it what the intention was with the open border. That was it it's like, and you know, the greatest thing will be if, like day of, they come down and knock on the door and they're like I'm not going anywhere, you know, if they actually don't, you know, unless they've already casted a ballot somehow without us you know, but there was people that were going door to door where a lot of migrants left, and they said are you registered to vote?
Speaker 2:Yes, Are you a citizen? No, Like it was like the entire, like apartment complex, you know, and it's like it's. You know it's wrong and I do this every time I go vote. My husband's like why do you have to do that? But I go in and I show up there with my driver's license.
Speaker 1:You show him the ID, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like here's my ID. I don't need it. You don't need it. How do you know it's me? Well, because your address? Well, how do you know? I live there. If I don't my well, we can check it against your signature. So are you going to check it right now? You know, are you going to check those form I just signed against my well? No, I mean, we're just yeah and like, really, really, you're doing this again. I'm like I gotta do it. He's like they're gonna kick us out is what they're gonna do.
Speaker 4:So it is so crazy, though. I know we just moved to this area a year ago and we had one election that we voted for local election or whatever and I remember going in there and voting and being like this is a very different process than it was in the city. In the city it was, you just show up, sign your name and here's your ballot, right. I mean I was like well, did you check who I am? Like you know what, if I used my address I lived at six months ago and not this address right like it was just like there was zero, zero.
Speaker 4:And then I'm sitting there thinking well, I wonder, you know, we have properties there. I'm like gee, what would happen if I came here and said all these different addresses, you know, would they let me vote at all these places because there was no verification whatsoever?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean, if you just think about how many times we've moved, we could use.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we could use so many addresses on that potentially right, yeah, I mean, I don't know I didn't do that right.
Speaker 2:But I know, and my friend and I were like we should vote mail and ballot and then show up to do and see what happens. Yeah, yeah, they're like okay, you can vote. You know, it's like well, and I would feel I'd be filming it the entire time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, really well, and I'm curious what happened to the people who put their ballots in the ballot boxes that have like been set on fire now pennsylvania yeah, like, what do they get to do? Right I think they've been.
Speaker 1:I think they've potentially been notified of I. I don't know.
Speaker 4:How do they? Know, how would they even know? Right, right. I mean, how do they know whose ballots are in that box?
Speaker 1:Maybe they sent out a public notice that said if you dropped it in these locations, yeah, or maybe there's a way you go online and you verify if your ballot.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I know nothing about that process. I asked about that so they can't verify if their vote was cast.
Speaker 2:What's the website where I can check the seat and make sure my ballot was casted? There's no website, really, oh my gosh. And I think, like maybe in Florida, because I think Dan Bongino said vote, make sure you check that it actually was casted, but here no. And you know, I don't know what the deal is with the people, but the people that are working at these voting sites, I mean it's like they just don't know and just unfortunately, it's like they're not. You know, I mean, bless their heart, they're wanting to work there, but it's like they really don't know much about how it works. You know they don't. Yeah, you know, like I had a question that was done and it kept saying invalid, invalid. So I see my husband, he's done, and I'm like like hey, come over here. He's like what I go, why is it saying? He's like, oh, did you just not? Did you skip over some? Okay, I go. Yeah, I didn't vote for any of the democrats. There's a whole page and the only it was only one option democrat, so I skipped it.
Speaker 2:He's, and then the woman's like sir, you can't be over here. And he's like that's my wife. He's like I'd still, you can't be over here. And he's like that's my wife. He's like, still, you can't be over here. And then he's like you just looked at her ballot. Well, I can look at her ballot. She's like do you want to sign an affidavit that your wife is incapable of voting? And I was like, oh my gosh, yeah. She's like you can sign an affidavit saying that you, you have some kind of you're unable in unable to vote because you have some kind of cognitive issue, or something.
Speaker 1:Have you? Have you seen the latest commercials from the left where they have the wife goes in to vote with the husband and they're like high-fiving, going into voting and then she's wearing an American hat and then she goes to her ballot and you know votes for Kamala and he, of course, from the commercial is he's voting for Trump. And then they meet together and he's like how did it go? And she's like great and like it's. It's like you're hiding from your spouse.
Speaker 4:they want you to hide from your spouse who you're voting for yeah, it was supposed to be like a woman empowerment, like statement empowerment. You can still vote for kamala and not tell you. It's like they're encouraging us. It's really weird, yeah.
Speaker 1:They're like encouraging a silent majority and you know, just lie, your husband's not there. Just lie Right when asked.
Speaker 2:Well, and and I, I, I tell my husband I go. I I'm so glad that we're both on the same page. I don't know how couples do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, that would be really hard Really hard yeah. Because even if I wasn't like a Republican, like my husband was, I wasn't that much of a diehard by that. So it was like wearing the Democrat thing was wearing off. Right.
Speaker 2:So as I grew up, maybe I just you know, like Robert F Kennedy said, it's not that I left them, they left me Like I still have the same values I had. Yeah, I'm a little bit more, because I'm my age now and I have kids that are in college, that you do change your views. For me, I definitely go to mass more and I'm much more connected, so maybe that's part of it, but I just don't align with anything from the Democratic Party at all.
Speaker 1:Because they just went too far.
Speaker 2:You think yeah absolutely I'm like this isn't right. There was just a lot of like this isn't right. You know feelings I had about different topics. So, yeah, I think it was a lot of that that happened. And you know it's funny. I mean I meet people randomly and it's like they were put in my path to to like say you're doing the right thing, you know. And I mean I won't go into this long story, but when I was in Nashville in the beginning of October, I went to the cathedral on a Monday and it was about it was like 1150.
Speaker 2:And I was met in the vestibule by an usher and he was like oh, welcome to Cathedral of the Incarnation. We have mass at this time. And I said, okay, I'm like, yeah, thanks, I go. I probably will finish my iced coffee outside and then come in for mass. And he's like well, where are you visiting from? I'm like Chicago. He's like, well, what part? I'm like Wrigleyville, oh, north Sider. I said yeah and I go, are you familiar with Chicago? He's like, oh, yeah, I grew up there. And he was like I'm one of the survivors from Our Lady of the Angels fire. And he's like my whole class I lost. I don't know if you're familiar with that. No, not really.
Speaker 2:It was an awful. On December 1st 1958, at a grade school like on Chicago Avenue and maybe Hamlin around there, a church fire broke out in a Catholic school and 95 children died in the fire. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, and like three nuns. That's the reason back then, and at that time the kindergartners were on top. Now, since that happened, we now keep the little ones on the first floor. Yeah. Because of that event. So the boys, more boys, were saved because of the belts. They were able to reach in, grab them by the belts.
Speaker 2:So, more boys survived than girls and one of the weirdest well, not weirdest things but the kids were told to stay, just stay in place and pray. So they didn't get out. So it was a big thing. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. But when he said that, I'm like no way. I said I've read about the subject. I said you know, I had to watch a video for work on this. And I said I was just sobbing because my kids were in grade school in a Catholic church and I'm just picturing them. And he's like, yeah, it was awful. I said do you get back to Chicago much? He's like, no, he goes, I won't ever go to another big city because of the one thing that's with a big D.
Speaker 2:I'm like Democrats. He's like, yep, we'll never go back to anything like that. And I'm like, okay, so we were talking but he said he goes. You know what, and I don't know how he knew I was a Trump supporter. But he said God is talking to us through Trump. And I just got chills. I believe that too. And then he was telling me about some story that brought tears to his eyes and it was just like the most amazing person, like he was almost 80. He was a veteran, you know. I told him you know what I did and you know for work, and he was just like it was weird, it's like that. And he told me he goes. You know what this is called? It's called a wink from God. You and I meeting. He's like we'll never forget this encounter. I'm like no, and I really like literally still think about him almost every day.
Speaker 4:That's really cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was cool and it just again. It was a sign from God, like you're doing the right thing, you know, and even if Trump loses, I know that I did the right thing. I'm standing on the right side of history, but let's just hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1:Isn't it amazing? How Did you feel this way on the last election, where you felt a connection with God and Trump and the presidency?
Speaker 2:No, not in 2020. I mean, I was a huge supporter of him but I did not feel that. I mean, I think the assassination of the first one, which is ridiculous that we even have to say it's the first time they tried to kill him. But you know, I actually had family members say that was staged and I I'm like what was staged? That whole thing, I mean it was it's a publicity stunt really. You really think I go first of all heyear-old, who was awful in his rifle club. I think he was told like don't come back, you're such a bad shooter. He trained at the same place. He would go shooting where a lot of FBI members you know people from the FBI work at that same go to that same gun range. And I'm like, so you really think he's like said hey, just try, please, just try to clip me in the ear, make sure you don't, right, we're talking like centimeters, yeah, yeah, millimeters, yeah, and the exact second of a head turn right, yeah right.
Speaker 1:His head would have been blown off, right had he just turned a, you know a little late.
Speaker 4:Like you can't stage that no, and then there? Were multiple bullets. It's not like it was just the one there was one on the side and this.
Speaker 2:Well, and then that's the thing is like. And trump said by the way, make sure you kill an innocent man, that's protecting his family just to make it look more believable.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's like how people yeah, it's really wild, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1:It's really sad the shooter died.
Speaker 4:Right, right. We know nothing about him. Right, right, so he crem Right, we know nothing about him Right, they cremate his body Right.
Speaker 1:So that was also staged, that this kid is going to die.
Speaker 4:Right, I hadn't heard that he was doing shooting practice at a range where the FBI I had not heard that yeah Interesting.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot of weird things.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of weird things.
Speaker 1:On the JD Vance Joe Rogan he actually said they talked about this on that episode and Rogan's like I sat across from Trump. I looked at his ear. There is a mark on his ear that like there was a bullet that grazed his ear Right, and so that is a thing. And then, yeah, they were really talking about there's a lot of fishy stuff.
Speaker 4:Like his whole apartment was scrubbed yeah. There wasn't even any silverware in the shooter's apartment.
Speaker 1:Really weird, bizarre things like that They've had a lot of hard times just cracking into his phone. Couldn't get into his cell phone.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that was the other thing. I think he had multiple cell phones and they said, yeah, they're all encrypted, they can't open it up, but yet you were able to track down every single person that was at the Capitol On January 6th On January 6th Right, you knew by the ATM receipts. You found them. I know a person personally who lived in Park Ridge. She moved out of state, she moved to Red State, but she was there on January 6th, got to the Capitol, was like ugh, this isn't looking really well. So her and her friends decided to go back to the hotel. She had the FBI at her door. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Well, she's on a list. Yes, because anybody that was traveling in or around DC is on a list.
Speaker 4:And if you were there Even if you were there to visit family or do an interview you're on the list to be checked out.
Speaker 2:She was. They came to her door. She had, I think she paid like $10,000 to $15,000 just to fight the case and clear her name. She had a case brought against her. Oh yeah, she was there. So therefore you're complaining.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, and she didn't go inside the Capitol and cause any damage.
Speaker 2:I never even got near the steps. We're approaching it and we're like we see what's going on, so she peacefully marched. Yep, she just was there for his speech, she was gonna follow.
Speaker 4:when she got there, she's like ah, this is not giving me a good vibe oh my gosh see, and this just like makes me cringe of of thinking about the double standard that exists from what we saw in earlier that year yeah with the blm and george floyd stuff. I mean setting police cars on fire in downtown chicago and just you know, barricading places, looting places. I mean throwing bricks and stuff at police and frozen water bottles and I mean why are we not knocking on those people's doors? And I'm sure there were.
Speaker 2:There obviously were some arrests but then you had the celebrities all bailing them out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean such a double standard, I it, it's just. I mean.
Speaker 2:I just that roast comedian who was at MSG at the medicine school.
Speaker 2:And he and he's, I think. I personally thought it was distasteful I really did, but and then I did some research. I'm like, oh, he toured with Joe Rogan. This is what he does. He's a roast comedian, whatever but oh my God, the backlash from that. But you have George Lopez at a waltz rally or fundraiser and he is making jokes about Mexicans, saying like you've got to be careful If you're going to build a wall, be careful with the materials and the tools, because you know us Mexicans, man, we're going to. You know, and that got like oh, that's so funny.
Speaker 4:It's a complete double standard. I'm like I find it. It's a complete double standard.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't think it's any. I've never thought he was funny. He always, you know, his humor is all based on how, oh, you know, I grew up in LA. We were so poor that you know, when it rained, you know we were looking forward to puddles, because that was the closest we can get to swimming pools. I'm like, no, not all Mexicans grow up like that dude, Like you know, it's just like, why are you? You know, and even with this statement, you know, and my niece was like, well, you know he gets a pass because you know he's Mexican, I'm like I don't give him a pass. It's just not funny. Yeah, it's offensive, you know, but it's offensive, you know, but it's okay because you know he, there's a double standard, you know. So, yeah, it's sad, I mean. So I don't know what else should we say? Talk about, do we not? Do we cover everything.
Speaker 2:I feel like we can go on for hours yeah, this has been fun.
Speaker 1:This has been really fun. Yeah, no, it's. It's nice to hear your perspective from the teacher front and then just from the Hispanic community too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it was definitely something I'm glad because I support Brandon Strzoka with his walk-away thing. I consider myself a walk-away. I just started to look and it was like.
Speaker 1:What is that?
Speaker 2:Brandon Strzoka has a huge movement. He is gay. He was actually on house arrest for January 6th, I think. He was there, so he had an ankle monitor for a long time so he had to fight this case. But he was, he'll tell you, on the night of 2016,. He was just devastated that Trump had won. And you know, he's like I'm gay, I'm a hairdresser, he's like and I just everything and it goes. And then I started to see things and I walked away. You got to look him up. He's on Facebook. He's huge. So he started the Walk Away Foundation for people that have walked away from the Democratic Party and then, Illinois has a chapter, like you know, a group.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, he's pretty cool, like he's just very brave, you know what I mean Like the trailblazer to go out there and start this movement. So that's kind of what I call myself. I'm a walkway. I walked away from the party and haven't looked back and I just can't believe what it's become, and it's something that I, for one, don't want to be a part of.
Speaker 1:So yeah, do you ever see Chicago turning red or the state turning red?
Speaker 2:No, it would be nice. I told my husband. I said you know what, maybe I should run for mayor. I actually told him that because I've thought about running for alderman and I really like Ray Lopez, so I'd probably call him and be like, hey, can you just shadow you for a while? I'm like I don't really know what it takes to be an alderman. And then my husband's like, yeah, that would be cool. I'm like, so what do I need to have to run for mayor? He's like nothing. He's like if this guy got in, you know what I mean? So I don't know, but I just I just think it's no, I mean at least not I'll be out of the state before that happens. I mean the first chance we get, you know, once retirement comes around. We're like out of here, and that's something I would never thought. I would say, yeah, you know, I'm like I just can't do it. I said it definitely will not live move to another blue state ever again.
Speaker 1:You know purple is debatable, most likely red, you know yeah yeah, I just you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's, I mean it's, I mean it's interesting. It seems like there's there's a number of groups that are really kind of changing. Let's say, a couple of weeks ago we were able to talk to some members of the black community who are part of a flip, chicago red, and you know, the black community is kind of waking up to all of this too.
Speaker 2:And if you kind of hear some of these YouTube clips, of people just Like Jessica Jackson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jessica Jackson. Yes, yeah, she is. I mean, I don't know if I could say that. But yeah, I totally want to like Because she goes to the city council meetings.
Speaker 2:Yeah and she calls him out. Look at him, he's the one that's trying to sell, and he's like. He's the one that's trying to sell, like you know, and he's like ray lopez he's over there reading, because to get ready, I mean. So, yeah, I definitely like, I'm like I want to meet her. Yeah, I want to go with her. You know yeah she just, you know, I'm like good for her, yeah, yeah, she's really making some waves we made.
Speaker 1:We were friends with zoe, who is jessica's. They're they're connected and so anyways, but they're doing something that's incredible. I mean, they're really rallying everyone in their community to start voting for Trump. And you start listening to a lot of these YouTube videos of people actually interviewing black folks in Chicago and they're all saying that they're, that they're going for trump I mean I'm sure there's still more that are on the left, but it's like it's they're sick of it they're opening their eyes, you know, and that's the thing is like.
Speaker 2:You know, the democrat wants you to think that you know what is like bongino says you know, democrats don't think you're stupid. Oh, no wait, democrats aren't dumb. Democrats think that you're dumb, I think it's something along those lines. But I think a lot of people and to say black people can't get an idea because they don't have access to you know, it's like how incredibly insulting is that yes To a black person, like wait a minute, I need an ID to do anything. Right, just like everybody needs an ID to do something. You know, there was a guy that went around in Harlem and asked black people, do you have an ID?
Speaker 4:They're like yeah, I have an ID.
Speaker 2:I know it's such a ridiculous thing to say, you know and it's like come on thing to say and it's like, come on, it's the stuff they've said.
Speaker 4:Joe said if you aren't black, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think a lot of people are waking up and seeing that. And if Joe was running again, I think that we would be more in trouble. I think people still had. I mean, I think people still had. I mean the dementia thing is, but at least they're like, he knows, he has some experience, a lot of years of experience. She has nothing and people are like, well, she's the vice president. Yeah, she hasn't done anything, you know. And to me that baffles me, like you know.
Speaker 2:And the other thing I was going to say is if the Democrats were offered civil rights back in the day and they were for Title I, and now you see that these boys are competing in women's sports, that, like is probably the biggest problem I have right now with this push to allow. I think it's dangerous. I think you never see it the other way. You never see a woman go. Oh, I want to weightlift against men because they know it's no Right, you know so it's like they should. I'm sorry, you shouldn't be allowed. You want it. Fight for like Title IX, like we. You know we did. What about like? What about those women's rights? Why isn't that discussed?
Speaker 2:They talk about healthcare, reproductive healthcare for women. I'm like so you're going to put more money into mammograms or people who can't afford to get a yearly exam to check for cancer, like that to me seems like healthcare for women. When you're literally talking about reproductive healthcare, what you're essentially saying is you want to end your reproduction. That's what it is. It's just they don't want to use the A word.
Speaker 2:So I think a lot of people are just opening up their eyes and they're like I'm done, I'm not going to be fooled anymore. They haven't done anything for me. They're really wealthy and God knows how they got their money, but to me I just can't. I can't do that. I can't. You know, yeah, you know I actually lose sleep over it. You know my sister's like you shouldn actually lose sleep over it. You know my sister's like you shouldn't lose. No, I really am losing sleep over it because it's our country and you know for you that you think that the next day everyone's gonna accept it and we're just gonna. Nothing's gonna change, nothing's gonna affect us. I'm like okay, so yeah it's.
Speaker 1:It seems like this is the election that really does impact your life in so many ways, and it's interesting. I've talked to a number of peers of mine and they just don't want to vote because they don't think their vote matters. Being in a blue state, even if I were to vote for the Republicans, my vote doesn't matter, my, my simple response was just like well, think of how many people actually think the exact same thing as you and like we'll never. We'll never change the state If we're all just going to assume that my, my vote doesn't matter. And and I think this is just this is an election where it's just, it's so obvious that there's so many policy differences that it will left or right. I mean, we're at a very big crossroad here and, like you, should make sure that your vote does matter and just go cast it right and the thing is outside.
Speaker 2:You drive outside of illinois like an hour. You see Trump signs everywhere. But I know Chicago is definitely, but, like I said, I think there's going to be a lot of people that are. You know, they may not voice it and they shouldn't have to, it's their own business, but they may be voting for Trump and they can't tell family members or stuff like that, because it's like, oh my God, it'd be shunned. How dare you have voted, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, I want to bring this up before we we, before we part. I was talking with a woman today who I work with regularly and she voted early. She voted for Kamala and it was interesting to me because it was a few months ago. She was starting to kind of like wake up and like she would have these conversations with me. I like, oh, like she's starting to change her mindset a little bit. And then she's she asked me today and she's like hey, did you listen to that podcast with rogan and trump? And I'm like yeah, I certainly did. And she's like I have never, ever seen that side of him.
Speaker 1:She's like it was fantastic and I was like are you, are you gonna vote for him, because this was before. I knew that she had already cast her vote. She's like, if I would have heard this podcast before I voted, I would have voted for Trump.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I said he's funny, I mean he's smart, I mean that's the thing is he's not polished, but he's really good. I mean Elon Musk. I mean I have so many friends and I know you guys have a Tesla Good for you. But I know it's like the same people that I know that drive Teslas hate Elon Musk. I have so many friends that are like oh, I hate him. You literally put money in his pocket.
Speaker 1:You know what I? Mean it's like so it's really funny the evolution of tesla has been. When we first got the car, it was very cool, and then there was a section where it was like maybe six months later it was like, well, only the woke libby's drive the teslas, right, yeah. I was like, oh man, man, I can't believe I'm in that crowd now. And then, all of a sudden, elon came out and he bought Twitter and now he's for free speech and I'm like, yes, teslas are great, exactly.
Speaker 2:Because he bought Twitter as if he needed more money. I'm like he didn't do it for money, I go. He did it to end censorship you know what I mean To give people their free speech again. So again it's like do your research, man. You have no idea why.
Speaker 1:So I think those friends that said that they hate Elon. They bought in the section when it was like it was cool it was cool, it was cool.
Speaker 4:Right, I'm so green.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and that was cool. But wait a second. He just bought Twitter and now he's endorsing Trump.
Speaker 2:And I think so. My husband and I were listening, started listening to JD Vance, so, but it got late and we're like, okay, promise, you're not going to finish this without, so we're going to listen to it tomorrow while we do some clean out some of our storage areas. Okay, promise, and I could probably, you know, and I was like so tempted today to like listen. I'm like no, I'll listen to Banchito instead, but I think he's awesome. Oh yeah, that episode was awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I know, and he's so personable and, like I read his book, I watched the movie, it's just like he's. So, I mean, and people, I hate him. How can you hate this guy who literally came from like such like a bad situation and then he went before he knew he wanted to get into politics. He served his country.
Speaker 2:A lot of people were dabbling with the idea, like, let me do some stuff with the military, so I can add that to my list of like you know, I served, or it was whatever I said, but he did it, you know, with the genuine interest of helping his country. I said, and then he went to Yale, I mean, and he's married to an amazing woman who's Indian, and it's like how can you hate him? I know, you know what I mean, I know, you know, but I don't get that. It's like are we watching the same interview? Because I feel like we're watching the same thing and we're walking away with completely different takeaways. Like I didn't hear that at all, you know, and there's a lot of that. I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4:It's just that we're so in our heads about stuff that and I think people aren't taking the time to listen to the long form of the entire interview and instead watch like the little segments or snippets that are posted and then turned on like a negative spin. You know, it's like, like the person you're talking about just now like, well, I've never, I've never heard him like that. Well, how many times have you taken the opportunity to listen to a long format of Trump speaking, versus just the tiny little snippets he has?
Speaker 1:been on so many podcasts. He has been on so many. He does so many interviews. These guys are doing tons and tons of interviews and when you compare the amount of interviews that they've done with what Kamala has done, there is so much content out there. It's just that people are purposely they're either one being censored from it, Because that's a possibility right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it.
Speaker 1:Because look, if you were to open my feed right now, you would see only right-leaning stuff. I mean, that's all I see. That is all I see. I don't know why there's no left-leaning stuff that comes through. It just doesn't, it doesn't, it literally doesn't.
Speaker 2:I deleted about 50 texts within the last two weeks of like. It's all for donating, Ted. Cruz, we're in trouble. And I'm like I don't know how I got on these lists.
Speaker 4:Yeah, same, yeah, same so.
Speaker 2:I'm like, I you know, I'm like just hard press, hard press hard, you know, and then delete like 25 messages.
Speaker 1:So I so I think I think there is a real battle that's happening here with the censorship and the algorithms that are happening, where we get a lot of our news now through social media, right, and so if a lot of the truth is coming through through social media or whatever bias is coming through, I mean that's all we're going to see. So it's it's really hard for me, honestly, it's really hard for me to find content of long form. Kamala interviews.
Speaker 1:Right, well, there's not the amount of time is is it's not really out there.
Speaker 4:We watched the Brett Baer interview.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did, we watched the bear interview. And yeah, we did, we watched the bear 60 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yep, we watched the 60 minutes those are like the only two 61 minutes.
Speaker 1:They're calling it because I heard clips of her call her daddy. Um, I heard clips of her on uh with shannon sharp. Uh, the black guy, shannon sharp, yes, yes, but yeah, you know, it's like the stuff for Trump is out there. You just gotta, you have to go out and listen to it, and sometimes there there might be a censorship block. That's happening, but you have to go find it.
Speaker 2:You know, if you, if you really want to get to know the person, Now, now, when it comes to Kamala, cause, I was like searching up when she said that people between the ages of like what was it? 18 to 25 are stupid. She said that a few years ago.
Speaker 2:Yes, I remember that, so I was looking it up and they're like you know, that was just a snippet. What she was talking about is that you know people in that age group, you know they do dumb things, and I said well, the verbiage I would use was like hey, you know you don't always make the best decisions during those ages, but it doesn't change the fact that she said they're stupid. And now these people that are voting for her, that are at that age, it's like she called you guys stupid. You know what I mean. No, it's like she called you guys stupid.
Speaker 4:Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, it's just like Biden calling us garbage Right right, it's just.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're trying to walk that back.
Speaker 2:I love Charlie Kirk and when he goes on campuses and just debates, just destroys these people. Yeah, it's awesome. Those are the people that I think are doing the hard work. They're being brave and you know doing stuff like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, because Well, sometimes it's as simple. He does such a great job of just asking questions like OK, what policy of hers is it that has got you voting for them? Most of the time, they have no idea.
Speaker 1:Most of the time they don't know, because they're just so emotional.
Speaker 4:I'm just. I can't vote for Trump. There's not really any insight into what they're voting for. It's just what they're voting against, and it's sad, and I think you can see it sometimes in their face, where they have this realization of like wow, I actually don't have any idea what I am voting for. I just know what I'm not voting for Right, right.
Speaker 2:And I was talking to somebody, somebody, a friend that's jewish and I said did you see that this holocaust survivor came out and said he wants an apology from kamala because of just because of what she said about?
Speaker 2:yeah, because he's like I I comparing trump to hitler yeah he's like you have no idea what Hitler was like. You didn't live through those days. How dare you Like compare, you know? And she still said I'm still scared of him, of Trump, you know, and I'm like anti-Semite or hate. You know, crimes on Jewish people is at an all-time high, you know.
Speaker 2:And just the other day, the guy there was a shooting in Rogers Park. They didn't report what happened. You know it was reported as a man got one man shot at another man. That wasn't how it happened. The guy, you know you can hear him on tape saying Ali Akbar shoots at the Jewish guy while going to synagogue. That's like how it happened and the news media won't even put that out there. You know, brendan Johnson is getting heat about it now because they're like you're not, you didn't report it as a hate crime, it was just like regular crime. And I told him like how could you be? Like you're okay with all these campuses allowing these things? I'm like you think he's a threat to Jewish people. I'm like when he's been the most pro-Israel president we've had, no, but there's still people that are like nope, nope, nope. You know.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's just I don't know where we went from not being critical thinkers. Maybe it's just the result of stress, that we don't have time to look, so we just go with whatever we're told, or we just watch, like I said, a half hour of world news every night and you're like okay, you know, I don't know, I honestly don't know what happened, but, like we talked about media, there were good anchors when we grew up. You know, I don't know, I honestly don't know what happened, but I like we talked about media, there were good anchors when we grew up. I mean, I remember I'm a lot older than you guys. I'm going to be 53 on November 6th, so this might be the best birthday ever or I'm not leaving my house, so.
Speaker 2:But I remember, like you know the Ted Koppel, you know the old time Walter Cronkite and stuff like that, and it was like they just reported the news. This is what's happening. But every news media now has their own agenda. They include their own commentary and it's like that's not your job, dude, just tell me the news. But if you look at behind, who owns those, you start to go oh okay, george Soros is involved in BlackRock, you know. Then you go that's why they have to do it like that, which is, I mean, it's disgusting. But again, unless someone stops them, they're going to continue to be like that. You know where they have no integrity, no dignity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I thought what was interesting is recently it was Jeff Bezos who owns the Washington Post. Interestingly, as recently it was Jeff Bezos who owns the Washington Post and they were no longer going to endorse a candidate this presidential cycle, in which they had endorsed both before. Maybe no, it was just they had endorsed the left side. Jesus wrote a note to everybody there saying that we need more conservative writers at the Post because we're now at a point where nobody trusts mainstream media because of the amount of bias and when you show endorsement, that proves the bias, that proves the political donations and the ties. And so he wrote a note to everyone that was public that said we need more conservative writers and people need to trust the media again. So it does take a guy like potentially him and I don't know where his politics are, but he's recognized nobody trusts the media anymore.
Speaker 1:That needs to be corrected, and the only way to correct it is to get an equal balance of left and right people reporting. And then I I also think um, within the schools, we need an equal balance of educators that are teaching our children of left and right and right. Now we?
Speaker 2:how about we just keep politics out of the schools? Let's stick to math science, you know.
Speaker 4:And same with the media right Like just facts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I mean it's like you don't have to throw all this stuff in. And I think it was classic that the New York Times didn't endorse her. I mean, it's like she was literally a senator, you know, in California, I mean. So that to me was like that was awesome, that they, for whatever reason, they're like maybe they're disassociating themselves because they know something we don't, yeah, and they don't want to go down with. You know what I mean. So it's so. That's really good to see.
Speaker 2:Now I don't think, well, it better not be happening. I'm going to have a huge problem with it. But I don't believe that my union supports any candidates Because you know CPS, they were taking union dues and giving it to Brandon Johnson, yeah, you know. And a few teachers have filed a lawsuit Like, no, we didn't agree to this. $8, a check or something went to his campaign and it's like you know so. And now it's like coming back because now Brandon Johnson has to do whatever the school wants, because it's a hey, we donated huge to you, right, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know, I don't know Everyone that. You know it's the nature of politics. I think, that it starts small, even if you go in with the best intentions. You, if you decide to run for a candidate you're like, and I say hey, jason and Rachel, will you like open home so I can have a small gathering endorsing it, right? Oh, yeah, sure, and then I get into office. You may call me and say hey, I have a problem with some taxes that I got, or I have a problem with my. You know, I owe you now a favor, right?
Speaker 3:Because then it's like I feel like well, I got to help them out.
Speaker 2:They open, you know, I owe you now a favor, right, because it's like I feel like, well, I gotta help them out. They open, you know. So I think that's how it starts. Yeah, you know. Oh, you can hold your event here and then, whether, like, the business is like, oh, like I'm getting shut down for code violations or something, I'll just call them and you know what I mean. So you'll end up having to, you know, but I don't feel like trump owes anybody anything, right? I mean, I could be wrong and I that part and have fact check, but he doesn't seem like someone that really you know, can't really buy him you can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what makes it so interesting is, uh, you can't buy him and well, I well, I think I heard about he already has a transition team that he's been funding and they have been doing it like privately, in which this is unique, because it has usually always been well, once you're elected, then the transition team starts Right, but he's already like pre-planning that.
Speaker 1:And so it needs to be funded through him like pre-planning that, and so it needs to be funded through him, and if they don't have, like, the government's transition team involved, that's. I think that's the whole point of it is that you don't have these other plants, right yeah. Yeah, and, as you know, as a president gets selected, then you know there's the transition team from the other side that was there and the transfer of power, and I think that's where there was a lot of problems. That was actually happening.
Speaker 2:Well, and he said that in the podcast with Joe Rogan because he's like what's day one look like. And he's like, you know, I'm like there's like all these people and they already are part of this and I have to keep them and you know, and he's like, so what? I didn't know right what to do. He's like, and then he's like, eventually I did fire, like you know, people from the military, heads of the militaries, he, I think he really values our military. People are like oh, he disparages our military.
Speaker 2:No, he does it, you know oh yeah miley, I go, miley needs to go he, he's a traitor. Miley. Yeah, I think of Miley Cyrus, but no, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I mean Miley. I mean it's like you're telling China that hey, I'll give you a heads up, like you don't circumvent the president and do stuff like that. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like he doesn't disparage the military, but he does if you're a leader of the military and you're, you know, talking to other leaders and not including our president in it yeah, yeah Trump says that there's.
Speaker 2:there's many, many good generals in the military, and it's not the ones that are on TV, no, they're behind the scenes doing stuff like that. In Mexico they had an amazing president. It's only one term there, but it's seven years, so you can't re-elect someone. I'm like, how progressive are they? They voted their first female president and she's Jewish, which is kind of like that's extremely progressive for Mexico. Yeah, but she's kind of in line with his ideas. You know there was, so there's so much corruption there that he's they cleaned it up a lot. You know he was like probably one of the first presidents that didn't take any money from the cartel, cause before that the cartel funded all the elections so they can get away with doing everything they needed to do, so so, yeah, and I kind of feel like he's kind of like trump. He can't really be bought. You know he doesn't need, like I said, he doesn't need the money, you know.
Speaker 1:so yeah, yeah, that's certainly another level. The moment, the moment people buy you, you're, you're done yeah all right, we should probably wrap this up well, adriana thank you so much for for joining us, and thanks for sharing your side. Yeah, yeah, this was a really fun conversation. If you found any value in the show, please share it and we will catch you on the next episode bye bye.