If there’s one truism about life, it’s this: Nobody follows a quitter. Good leaders are persistent to the point of being relentless. Their single-mindedness may drive some people crazy, but it drives even more to follow them. In this One on One podcast, Kris shares his own story of persistence (hint: it has to do with being a fan of a certain team that still hasn’t won a Super Bowl) and talks about how sometimes even when you think you’ve reached a dead end, the next breakthrough is right around the corner. Are you willing to outwork everybody around you, and scratch and claw for solutions instead of falling back on excuses? Then maybe, just maybe, you have what it takes to lead.