Episode 61: Dr. Trip and LaNae Goolsby

Dr. Trip and LaNae discuss regenerative medicine, health optimization, age reversal, and the multi-pillar approach to health that they utilize in their integrative medicine center in New Orleans. 

LeNae Goolsby is a speaker, bestselling author and cofounder, with her husband, Trip Goolsby, MD, of Infinite Health Integrative Medicine Center, a precision-medicine practice with a niche focus on health optimization, age reversal, and regenerative medicine.

In 2013 LeNae and Dr. Goolsby transitioned their community oncology and hematology practice into what is now known Infinite Health. Every day Infinite Health IMC helps thousands of women and men, across the nation, create their successful health image, optimize their health, and live a healthier, longer, happier life. For more information visit www.YourInfiniteHealth.com

LeNae is also an empowerment-centric speaker and bestselling author, having coauthored "Think and LiveLonger," "Woke," "Empower Your Life," and "Empowered Medicine: Harnessing the laws of the universe for optimized health," as well as having authored "Seven Sundays to Sweet Inner Serenity;" the latter of which is her personal journey of overcoming a victim-mind-set that led to a deep desire to get revenge.

LeNae has been a featured guest on multiple podcasts, spoken at several women's conferences, and had several of her articles published in such power-house sites as MindBodyGreen.com, PsychCentral.com, Entrepreneur.com, and many others.

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Transcript

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Blake Suzelis: Thanks so much for joining us at the live-lucky podcast. Everyone. I have 2 amazing people here with me Lynne Goalsby and Dr. Trip goalsby.

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Blake Suzelis: and they have are doing some amazing things other than just being authors and doctor, and they Haven't an integrative medicine center called infinite health. Am I getting the right? Okay, and it does Precision, medicine and their specialties are like health optimization, age, reverse or regenerative medicine?

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Blake Suzelis: And before we got started here I found out that oncology was actually in Dr. Gosby's past, and and you guys work together in some capacity, I here as well. So i'm really excited to have you guys on here and just hear what what's going on with this clinic, you know. And

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LeNae Goolsby: yeah, well, thank you. First of all. Thank you so much for having us on. I'm really excited to meet you and and hear about your journey as well and hopefully. Your audience finds

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LeNae Goolsby: finds today valuable.

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Blake Suzelis: Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I know when we were kind of getting going, setting this up. You know you guys had. I? I was just looking at these specialties of health optimization. And to me that's something. Obviously, it's very personal to me, not only in my professional work, but also personally, because

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Blake Suzelis: You know I've shared with you guys before we started, and the audience already knows. About a year and a half ago I had some serious stuff. Happen. I was diagnosed with, chronic lymphatic leukemia, and and so having your guys background and what you're doing now, and even the transition that got you from that more

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Blake Suzelis: medical. That's not the word I'm looking for.

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LeNae Goolsby: well, did you want? Did you want us to touch out? We could definitely touch on that. That that whole transition is is a is a story of its own getting out of providing community medical oncology care, which is what trip did for what? Over 30 years trip.

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LeNae Goolsby: Yeah, in private

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LeNae Goolsby: in private practice most of the time. but we try. We began transitioning it in at the end of 2,012, the beginning of 2,013. I think I don't know it was so traumatic. It was such a traumatic experience block the time

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LeNae Goolsby: the time zone out there. But it was. It was quite a very evolutionary experience, for you know, both of us and trip. You want to jump in any time there

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Trip Goolsby, MD: when they influence me a great deal during that during that period, simply because, you know, making that change for myself was, was always a you know, a a challenge, and she and also had some personal personal investment there. And

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and her, the the pathway she took actually influenced me in that I took up some of the intellectual activities that she had. she had undertaken, and from those and from those activities actually, it helped evolve this this entire integrative health concept that we utilized today the foundational component of it. At any rate, I think that's

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Trip Goolsby, MD: really been was really the most most interesting component of that transition was me learning about other things. And outside my you know, my conventional wheelhouse there and then taking those and saying, Well, why haven't these modalities been you utilized, and

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Trip Goolsby, MD: or or why are they not much more utilized to help our

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Trip Goolsby, MD: patients achieve their their anticipated health levels. And you know, and I, and looking back, I find it. It becomes more and more evident to me that we we we don't help as a reactive medical permission. We don't really focus on helping the helping our patients establish

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Trip Goolsby, MD: an image of success and image of what they of their goals and their anticipated outcomes, and without doing that, we, you know, we see them, we tell them Here, take this, and you know, and that will take care of your symptoms or what not. And it doesn't help them

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Trip Goolsby, MD: create their reality and create that that anticipated outcome which is so crucial in and achieving an outcome for ourselves. Otherwise we're kind of like in a little skip out of the middle of the ocean waiting for the next wave to hit, and we become victim to what is surrounding us, as opposed to the creator of what we want.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and I think that's what one of the big things that I took out of that entire transition period was. We can actually and and as I implemented, we can actually create an outcome that we desire. And so that's what is

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Trip Goolsby, MD: I think that was the foundation of a lot of the principles that we're using now in practice.

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Blake Suzelis: Well, thank you so much for sharing it's so funny, because all these words you're using. These are words that I use with our listeners a lot. So you know, you still stepping out of the victim role and into the Creator role and creating a reality in your life. And so I mean, it sounds like we're really aligned, and even our approaches of just this inside out approach

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Blake Suzelis: versus the outside in approach.

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LeNae Goolsby: Exactly

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Trip Goolsby, MD: so important.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: So. And and that's one of the things I see very frequently, and most of my new patients coming in. I'll spend much more time up front with them because they're they're inculcated into this process of going and seeing the physician, for whatever

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Trip Goolsby, MD: brief think of time it may be, or the practitioner, or whatever the practitioner it may be, and then a and then they say, oh, you they do the test. You have this diagnosis. Here, take this, and you know i'll see you in 6 months, I mean, and that's in. You know much more, much less complicated cases than your own. But

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Trip Goolsby, MD: at the same time that that mindset tends to in in in your the patient into a into a a true

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Trip Goolsby, MD: victim position, and they're not in that case collaborating or creating their outcome. They're just being subject to whatever the physician things, and not that it doesn't take a lot of knowledge and and brilliant people to do that on it in an effective setting, but at the same time it's

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Trip Goolsby, MD: it's something that as we, as we take ownership, we take ownership of an outcome we desire, and we have our mindset on that. Our brains and and every single resource around us actually helps us

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Trip Goolsby, MD: achieve that outcome. And it's it's been such an amazing change in my career and helping my patients achieve that that I can't express the gratitude I have to delay for helping me helping me get to that point.

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Blake Suzelis: Yeah, it sounds like, you know you're saying, wherever your attention

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Blake Suzelis: goes, your energy and everything else flows. And so I mean, and and len it sounds like You're such an integral part of this transition and helping him practice in a just much more helpful way. We'll say I, i'd love to hear kind of you know your 2 sense and and not to. I don't want to diminish your pro perspective, too, because I mean you are a an an author or a speaker. So I mean again, it's only a good Take it away.

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LeNae Goolsby: i'm a little more harsh because my my journey that he's talking about really Culminated in this evening where I was watching this terrible show called Revenge.

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LeNae Goolsby: and it was one of the shows at the time that I would try to watch weekly, you know, because it came on at a certain time, and and I was drinking a bottle of wine like almost daily, and this one particular evening I realized that I wasn't just watching the show for mindless entertainment, but I was watching it for inspiration.

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LeNae Goolsby: because we we had found ourselves in a situation, and I really was taking on the victim mindset myself, and wanted to get revenge and wanted other people to hurt, because I felt like they had hurt me. Unfortunately, i'm too smart.

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LeNae Goolsby: My spirit was like No, no, I was like no, no, and I was like I cannot. I can't take revenge on anybody, because I would be doing it very

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LeNae Goolsby: strategically, which would be like the worst jail time if there would be no passion about it right? So I believe it was Confucius. Say, you know, if you go dig

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LeNae Goolsby: to a whole for your enemy, dig, too, because one's gonna be for yourself, and I wasn't prepared for that. And

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LeNae Goolsby: so that kind of thought.

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LeNae Goolsby: catalyst kind of experience put me on a spiritual journey. That kind of delved me into Dyer and Louise, hey? And you know.

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LeNae Goolsby: mindfulness and meditation, and and really cultivating a more spiritual approach to life.

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LeNae Goolsby: you know, had been raised in church and religion. and had heard, You know we're not physical beings having a spiritual experience or spiritual beings having a physical experience heard it before, but until that moment it didn't really resonate. And when you think about.

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LeNae Goolsby: you know the power, the inherent power of a spiritual being, you know, your multi-dimensional. You are the Creator. I mean that shifts you out of a victim and into the creator and all of a sudden a whole new world opens up to you that maybe you hadn't conceptualized before.

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LeNae Goolsby: And so, as i'm, you know, going on this spiritual path.

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LeNae Goolsby: you know, like trip, said he, started to look at some of the stuff i'm reading, and it just kind of it kind of evolved and spilled over into the cancer clinic at the time, and I don't think Trip realized it back. Then. We didn't label it, or anything. But he was

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LeNae Goolsby: taking probably a more compassionate and more mindful approach with this cancer patients than what they may have been receiving elsewhere. because he had really good outcomes, and he was very compassionate, and spent that time with them. and so

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LeNae Goolsby: that's kind of. We started developing these handouts, and we started giving them to patients, and we started expecting them to read them, and then we started expecting them to report back on what they read and made sure they understand it. And next thing you know, you're spending a lot of time coaching. So we're on a journey, and we bring the patients along with us.

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LeNae Goolsby: much to their chagrin. Sometimes, you know they're like. What are you doing to me?

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LeNae Goolsby: and so evolving out of cancer and into integrative medicine, was a very, you know, deliberate baby. Step kind of thing for us. but our mind body program that we have is one of those 4 pillars that we implement, and it's it's not. It's not optional, You know. A patient can't be like. I'm going to do this in this, but I don't want to do that. It's. It's not negotiable, because we've seen

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LeNae Goolsby: the transformation that occurs in the patient when they apply all the pillars.

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Blake Suzelis: yeah, no, that's that's amazing. And and if you are open to sharing a little more about the pillars and and kind of the how I mean. I'm all ears about this

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LeNae Goolsby: yeah trip, You wanna You want to start on the pillars.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: Well, I think the the first, the kind of the fundamental pillar obviously is the mind body pillar. I would I I consider, because, unless, like like, I said, unless you have that that mindset for the outcome you design. There's you know, everything else that stems from

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Trip Goolsby, MD: having that metric, and being able to use that metric to assess your progress. And so and it makes things

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Trip Goolsby, MD: much more relaxed and and and really allows the patient to take a lot of stress off of themselves when they they have that point

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Trip Goolsby, MD: of They know their point of departure. They know the the point of which which they want to arrive. And if if things are not fitting into that, you know into that peg or the square hole, then then that, or the the outcomes they're receiving or not

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Trip Goolsby, MD: in in kind with what they really would like to have. Then Basically, it tells them Well, I need to either. I'm going to continue down this road where i'm not going to get what I want, and i'm going to. So

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Trip Goolsby, MD: I need to change that thought process and change, you know, and work with whoever I'm working with my position, my counselor, who whatever to to achieve that outcome. And so it really takes a lot of stress off of waiting for the next wave to hit, so to speak, as I said before, and it it allows them to say, Well, i'm not. This is not getting me where I want to go. I need to more rapidly make a decision to

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Trip Goolsby, MD: to go this direction. So the the mind body component to me is is is the fun fundamental component. But there are, as we age. Obviously as we age. Our our bodies get exposed to toxins, to, you know, to changes in the way we live, and and cause

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Trip Goolsby, MD: you

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Trip Goolsby, MD: bits of damage here and there those little bits of damage finally accumulated to maybe a a symptom, or a a dysfunction of an Oregon, and then subsequently, in subsequent we'd end up with, we end up with real significant disease problems that that that create inflammation, and or result from the inflammation or our lifestyle will bring us.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: And so, in in taking, though that damage, taking that concept. Those damages result in just, you know, progressive decline. Maybe we don't sense it all that much until we get to really a limit. But as that progressive decline occurs

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Trip Goolsby, MD: if we, if we take that, say it's a cup that we start with full, and then you know by it, as we start noticing those things. Maybe the companies, you know, 2 thirds full, or whatever. If we

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Trip Goolsby, MD: we punish that cup, so to speak, by balancing off the that small amount of detriment. We actually we actually create a an environment for our cellular production to be much more relaxed again, so that just doing that helps people feel younger

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Trip Goolsby, MD: be more energetic, Live life like they did many years previously, and and that was the that's kind of the secondary pillar is the metabolic

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and endocrine endocrine balancing, and so that that component I experienced myself maybe 15. Well, more than 15 years ago, because I the our eldest son, is just turned 17. And

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and it was at that point in my life that I started looking into the good medical literature and good research on these things, and and started implementing them on myself, and noticing significant difference in in how I feel. And today to this day.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: I think the the health that I that I am experiencing at this point in time, actually has benefited from that replenishment posture that I've taken over the years, so that in and of itself becomes the second pillar. And then you know the the other, the 2.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: There's that many people focus on to to achieve that are the nutrition and the and the physical optimization. So nutritional optimization, physical optimization, in order to minimize the the ongoing damage in our body to to help us, have, you know, improved longevity, and it, and an improved health span, so so that we remain active much longer in life than we we would otherwise. Living is kind of like our parents did, so to speak, or or their parents.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: which passed on to their parents and etc., etc. So you know it's a it's a it's a

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Trip Goolsby, MD: accumulation of the information that we have at this point that really, that really allows us to to not only not only live better and longer. It it

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Trip Goolsby, MD: leaves us less to repair, and that takes me into kind of the regenerative component, and our regener that you know we're we're doing a number of things with

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LeNae Goolsby: So if I can just interject, just for clarity succinctly the 4 pillars, which is kind of our core health optimization program involves the mind body component, but the metabolic and hormonal optimization which we use bio identical hormone replacement therapy to help people get their levels back to where they were when they were at their prime.

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LeNae Goolsby: And then, of course, the nutritional and the physical fitness. So that's kind of the core program. And then, in addition to that, we help people who have, chronic pain and inflammation help the body repair itself naturally through the regenerative

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LeNae Goolsby: processes. Did you have any questions that you wanted to slide in there and to ramble?

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Blake Suzelis: Not so good.

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Blake Suzelis: I I was kind of taking some notes out here, and I mean, basically what I was hearing is like. You know, we have so many different stressors that we experience in our life where there's from attached to our parents as children, you know that can create stress, and then we have the other stressors, but ultimately it creates inflammation in the body, which then I mean disease essentially can.

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Blake Suzelis: There's a direct B line from there to to disease. So what you guys are saying is, you work with the inflammation to help instead with regeneration and maybe helping ultimately Gene expression to happen in a different way. Is that kind of what i'm getting from you guys

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Trip Goolsby, MD: exactly. You know I didn't want to go that deep into the molecular biology. But yes, thank you for that summary. No, that's great.

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Blake Suzelis: Well, I mean in your guys's journey like I mean, i'm sure you guys have so many amazing stories, I mean, and I know as a therapist.

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Blake Suzelis: you know, stories can increase hope and inspiration for people to step into their own change story. And so I mean whether this is your guys's own personal story, or if it you have a story of someone that you'd be willing to share, that. It's just like you know what. Or if you want to even bring in. I know that we are kind of going into that more spiritual room, and how that Inc. Is incorporated into the pillars.

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Blake Suzelis: I mean, there's so many different directions, you know. I I will tell you. There is 1 one story of a of a patient that really kind of

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LeNae Goolsby: hello.

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LeNae Goolsby: a profound impact on me just from how how important our work is, and how it can impact a life.

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LeNae Goolsby: I actually had a patient. Pull me aside, and he's like man. I I love Dr. Gosby. he saved my life. I'm like, you know. What do you mean? He saved your life. He's like, oh, yeah, before I found y'all I was broke.

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LeNae Goolsby: I didn't know what to do with my life like relationship like divorce children. Don't talk to him. I don't know if he had been in jail or not, but state run disability. He's like before I found Dr. Golesby. I had a a gun in my mouth.

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LeNae Goolsby: and that's where he was. You know that's where he was, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, physically, financially, he was broken and ready to check out, and I not real sure how he found this.

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LeNae Goolsby: But he did, and he signed up for himself, and he did the work. You know he did the reading. He did utilize all the tools that were provided to him, and he's healed. He's self employed. He has employees like I mean his whole

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LeNae Goolsby: life shifted, and

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LeNae Goolsby: knowing that that man's life has an impact on other people's lives. I mean, it's just a ripple effect. So when you help one person, you have no idea

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LeNae Goolsby: how many other people you're you know you're impacting.

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LeNae Goolsby: you know, and so that that's one story that I love to share because it's just so. Phenomenal

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LeNae Goolsby: absolutely.

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LeNae Goolsby: Do you have a story? Tr: I know you've got a 1 million of them.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: Well, I I I really kind of like

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Trip Goolsby, MD: you know the

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Trip Goolsby, MD: the one about there's and she's still a to this day. She She came in after, you know, after being treated with conventional medicine for years and years, and had multiple diagnoses of connective tissue disease autoimmune hepatitis

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Trip Goolsby, MD: diabetes a number of other, you know, in Oregon

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Trip Goolsby, MD: compromises on going, and had had liver biopsies all sorts of things, and and the kind of disparate medical care that we we provide now with all the some specialties.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: And you know, when she came in. When I had my initial conversation with her, I I asked her to put. I asked all my patients put together what I call the successful Health image.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and that's successful health. Imagin drives my actions certain, the patients actions, and all of that and gives us that metric as I was talking about. Well.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: so she is. I'm putting together with her. She was an avid bicycle with her husband, but you know at that point in time, in in her health. She couldn't get over like 11 miles an hour, and follow even drafting other on their bicycle and

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and I said, Well, then, maybe you know, as you establish your the parameters for your success. Maybe you should.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: But and she had never completed the century ride, for example, she 100 mile ride. So she is she. She like to do this one for Parkinson. So I think it was Parkinson's or Alzheimer's they do a century ride every year in Texas, and so she's. So I said, Well, why don't you put down as one of your as one of your

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Trip Goolsby, MD: anticipated outcomes that you, you bicycle, you bicycle the the century ride, and at an average of 15 miles an hour.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and it it didn't take her a second to soak that in, and she started laughing at me. Says you're out of your mind. I'll never be so I it to this day. I give her a hard time about her final result. But she she was full-blown diabetic. She had all these problems, and in about 4 months 4 months or so

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Trip Goolsby, MD: she had that that century ride to to attempt to do again. She had never completed. And She actually completed the ride

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and this was based on the outcomes that it happened with her, you know, achieving a a number of the endpoints that she wanted to do in the and the basic resolution of her diabetes. And you know the nutritional change the exercises and all that I mean. It was to me to this day, and she it continues to come in, and

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Trip Goolsby, MD: and we, you know, revise her plans and and this and that. She I continue to give, be able to say, I told you so. I don't think so. So. Yeah, I think those are. These are are great cases, and you know she's had some of the regenerative therapies on her back her knees a couple of things to get her really primed up, and she's actually averaging. Now,

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Trip Goolsby, MD: on on their 20 mile rides, and and her husband had to actually come and start getting optimized, too, because he couldn't keep up with it. That's amazing. I mean just depends on what you put up here right?

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Blake Suzelis: Absolutely. Oh, no, that's absolutely true. Well, and so if there was some of the top self care tips that you guys could offer, maybe, to the listeners here of just you know we're hearing these amazing stories. But like what would be step 1, 2, and 3, maybe just to get me started.

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Blake Suzelis: you know, because i'm hearing these great things and what's possible.

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Blake Suzelis: Now, what do I do? Maybe? What what are the first couple of steps. What do you think?

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LeNae Goolsby: Well, you know, I think, in the business realm they figured out that you've got to begin with the end in mind, and that's really what Trip has said a couple of times now is, you know you've got to know where you want to go. What does that look like. What does that feel like? What would you be doing

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LeNae Goolsby: Frequently we ask our question, our patients 3 questions, and one is, what do you want? Right? So that gets them thinking about that happy end result? And then why do you want it? Why is it important to you, you know? and then finally, and this is probably the most difficult one for a lot of people. Is what are you willing to give or give up

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LeNae Goolsby: to receive it.

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LeNae Goolsby: so you know, from a self-care perspective, I would say, sit down and ask yourself those questions. You know. What does that look like to you? What does that feel like to you? what are you willing to sacrifice or to start doing now that you're not doing to get to that happy end. Result?

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Blake Suzelis: No, I think that's really. That's exactly how I start with things to it so funny in in my book, the Gift of Luck. That's chapter one. It's like, okay. So what's your vision? Why, and what's your Why, and then also, you know the costs of change, and the biggest cost of change we don't talk about is the loss of identity of that past version of us. And how do we navigate this new version of us walking into the future, and you're hitting on that in terms of what does it feel like? How do I act, you know.

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LeNae Goolsby: And so i'm totally in sync with you. And all this

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Trip Goolsby, MD: No, I mean that's those are those are the fundamentals, I think, and I I've parked on that already, as we and we've been talking, and you know, and you know, talking about practitioners, though, and I think you. You alluded to the medical mastermind while we were talking previously, and I think

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Trip Goolsby, MD: that's really key to getting Ultimately the best outcome for yourself is that and you have to take ownership of that is putting that medical mastermind together, and that medical mastermind is that group of practitioners that actually work harmoniously together to to help the

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Trip Goolsby, MD: the head of the table. So this beat the CEO to achieve that, to achieve that that outcome. So you get this group of practitioners that are helping at at all moments

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Trip Goolsby, MD: they have affiliations, or you know they have customary referrals that that they make, and a and maybe that's not the right practitioner for the for the person involved. And so the the individual needs to take ownership of that. They're the CEO. They're the boss

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Blake Suzelis: Yeah, no, I agree. I I I talk and and about we need a guide right? We need a guide who's already been up the mountain, so we're not trying to navigate it ourselves. We'll end up some of our mountain that we're, you know, trying to. So we need a guide to get us to the top.

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Blake Suzelis: Well, as you guys have kind of shared all this, if you don't mind, i'd love to be just very personal for a second. And and again, if this is too much, please let me know. But in my own journey with the

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Blake Suzelis: what would you do with the patient who would be coming in with those 2 kind of things like, I mean, we're talking about 75,000 is what my white blood cells are at my amino gobi lame is, I think, at 35. So it's. But everything else is right. In just about okay normal.

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Blake Suzelis: Any thoughts. And again, if that's overstepping, please let me know that's okay, too.

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LeNae Goolsby: you know. I mean, why wouldn't you take advantage of the expert when you've got them in the room.

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Trip Goolsby, MD: so I guess, not knowing your You know what

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Trip Goolsby, MD: those would be kind of the avenues I would take, and optimizing, optimizing, formal metabolism getting your mindset right. All of those things that we use in our program are always always there. They work for everything. So it.

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LeNae Goolsby: Well, just real quick. He also used the word normal, and I know you have an idea about

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Blake Suzelis: Yeah, no. I really appreciate that. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me because i'm like, I feel amazing like I I feel great, but my numbers are reflecting that, and I I know I've talked to, even on the podcast about not defining ourselves by any number.

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Blake Suzelis: Right? And that's not going to bring us happiness ever or hell, you know. And so so that definitely resonates with me what you're saying. So I appreciate that.

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Blake Suzelis: I know we are just about out of time here, guys. So I want to make sure that if anybody is trying to get a hold of you, how would they do that? Where would they go? How would they reach out to you if they want to start, you know, seeing you at the Infinite Health integrated medicine, clinic or something. Yeah, just

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LeNae Goolsby: for sure. Probably the easiest way for somebody to find out more about us, or to reach out to us is to go to the website, which is your infinite health.com

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LeNae Goolsby: we do offer tele virtual consults as well. So

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LeNae Goolsby: it doesn't really matter where they live. We can. We can guide them

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LeNae Goolsby: if even they're working with somebody else, and they want to supplement, you know their care. Our My body program works very well. With that they can supplement any weight, loss, program or any workout program or anything like that with that as well. so again, your infinite health.com.

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Blake Suzelis: Okay, and and if they are interested in reading your books when they like. Where would they go to find those same website?

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LeNae Goolsby: So thinking, live longer is our basically our mind body program, You know it's the book that all of our patients are required to read and they can find that on Amazon, or they can call the office Will

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LeNae Goolsby: sell them one, you know, over the phones. Okay, Amazon's probably going to be quicker, and then we can, You know, if somebody was more interested in delving into a more, a theric spiritual kind of empowerment perspective. My website is Linnae goalsby.com, and you know, the more spiritually inclined books are available there.

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Blake Suzelis: Wonderful?

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LeNae Goolsby: Well, thank you guys so much for joining us and sharing your wisdom and thank you for what you're doing. We need people like you guys doing what you're doing, and so I appreciate that. And we're getting the word out so other people can know about it, too. So thank you for having us on. I really appreciate it. Appreciate your time, and I appreciate your work as well.

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Blake Suzelis: Thank you all right, and everybody listening. Thanks so much for tuning in, and we're just going to continue learning more about living. Lucky next time. Have a great day. Everybody.