A Call To Leadership

EP254: Aiming for Greatness with Musab Safi

• Dr. Nate Salah

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What drives a 16-year-old to launch a clothing brand, dominate in boxing, and pursue college all at once? Meet Musab Safi, a young entrepreneur whose vision, discipline, and unshakable confidence are propelling him toward remarkable achievements. From creating a standout streetwear brand to becoming a Golden Gloves boxing champion, Musab shares the mindset, strategies, and lessons fueling his success. Curious about the habits and resilience that set him apart at such a young age? Don’t miss this inspiring conversation packed with insights on ambition, focus, and turning dreams into reality!



 Key Takeaways To Listen For

  • The limitless potential of business versus traditional career paths
  • Why having a clear goal and the discipline to pursue it is key to success
  • Managing high school, college credits, a job, and launching a business as a teenager
  • The vital role of family and role models in shaping your entrepreneurial mindset
  • Actionable strategies for self-improvement and goal-setting



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About Musab Safi
Musab is a dynamic 16-year-old entrepreneur, championship boxer, and college student who exemplifies ambition and discipline. As the founder of PaSho, a streetwear brand known for its exceptional comfort and quality, Musab combines his passion for fashion with sharp business acumen, even enlisting creative partnerships to bring his vision to life. A state-level Golden Gloves boxing champion, Musab attributes his success to relentless hard work and strategic thinking, qualities that also fuel his entrepreneurial endeavors. Balancing college studies, business, and athletic pursuits, Musab inspires with his unwavering confidence, forward-thinking mindset, and commitment to daily improvement.



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[00:00:00] Dr. Nate Salah
Hello, my friend. And welcome to this episode of A Call to Leadership. I'm Dr. Nate Salah, your host. And this episode is a very special one. We're going to talk with a young entrepreneur. I love having the next generation of leaders on the program. And this entrepreneur is no stranger to the world of entrepreneurship. In fact, this is my nephew, Musab. He is a 16-year-old budding entrepreneur. And I had such a great time in. interviewing him on his role, his future, his tenacity, and his challenges he faces as a young leader. We can be inspired, we can be encouraged, we can grow and learn more about this next evolution in leadership. Can't wait for you to listen in. Let's get rolling. What's up? How's it going? Good to see you. Thanks for being on the podcast. 

[00:00:57] Musab Safi
Yep, you're welcome. Thank you for having me. 

[00:00:59] Dr. Nate Salah
You bet. So have you listened to any podcasts before? 

[00:01:03] Musab Safi
Um, I've heard a couple of. 

[00:01:05] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah or any, like. 

[00:01:06] Musab Safi
Um, I can't name them all. 

[00:01:10] Dr. Nate Salah
Have you ever heard like, uh, Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan? Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty good. Yeah. He's pretty popular. Just, I mean, I'm just a little more popular than me. This fellow, I'd say you're better. Oh, thanks. So, you know, I don't have young people on the show enough and you were perfect because you came in today to spend some time with your uncle and learn a little bit about business. We were talking about business. You, you like business. What do you like about business? What's, what's, what, what, what draws you into entrepreneurship? 

[00:01:43] Musab Safi
I guess the, the freedom of, uh, doing everything like by yourself. Um, not really, uh, under one person, one singular person. You're like working for yourself. That aspect of it is something I like. Um, the ability to like, you don't really have a limit. That's, that's one thing. Like, if you, if you look at the top paying job, the highest paying job, um, like with a degree or anything like that. Um, or like a doctorate, uh, if you become a doctor, the, the highest, there's, there's a limit, right? But with business, I feel like there's no limit. 

[00:02:20] Dr. Nate Salah
This is true. Yeah, this is true. There's, there's no limit with the business. You can, you could be limited with any profession, but with, as an entrepreneur and, and you are a young entrepreneur, you're 16 years old and you've already launched a business. Business? Yeah. What business did you launch? 

[00:02:39] Musab Safi
Uh, clothing brand, Pashsho. 

[00:02:41] Dr. Nate Salah
Pashsho, that's the name of the brand? 

[00:02:43] Musab Safi
Uh huh, stands for passion. 

[00:02:44] Dr. Nate Salah
All right. Yeah. What kind of clothing is it? 

[00:02:47] Musab Safi
Uh, it's streetwear. 

[00:02:48] Dr. Nate Salah
Streetwear. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so as opposed to like formal wear, is it casual? 

[00:02:53] Musab Safi
Yeah, yeah, like hoodies, sweatpants, stuff like that.

[00:02:57] Dr. Nate Salah
And what, what, what, what was your reasoning for wanting to do that? 

[00:03:01] Musab Safi
Um, I don't know. I've always liked, like, nice clothes. Um, I like the idea of selling, um, Excuse me, uh, higher quality clothes for, for cheaper and, and yeah, I wanted, I like the idea of people wearing my brand, stuff like that. It seemed like a, it seems, it seems like a good place to go, like a good route. Hopefully everything goes well. 

[00:03:30] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. So were there any, any brands that inspired you? 

[00:03:35] Musab Safi
Yes, um, the, my, is my, one of my, my friend's brand probably, my friend. Uh, he, he's been doing a clothing brand for a couple years. Yeah. Uh, he's 20 years old. Yeah. He inspired me. 

[00:03:52] Dr. Nate Salah
That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So, so, um, When you thought about doing this clothing brand, I guess you had to put some money in it.

[00:04:01] Musab Safi
Yeah. A couple thousand. 

[00:04:02] Dr. Nate Salah
Couple. That's, that's not a small amount of money when you're 16 years old. 

[00:04:05] Musab Safi
Yeah. It's, it's been most of my paychecks, uh, for, for a couple months. 

[00:04:11] Dr. Nate Salah
Nice. So you, you've been, so you work and you've been working, where you've been working? 

[00:04:15] Musab Safi
Uh, Best Buy. 

[00:04:16] Dr. Nate Salah
So we're going to Best Buy, pounding it out. But school as well, right? 

[00:04:20] Musab Safi
School as well. Yes. Um, I've had a little bit more time on my hands. 

[00:04:26] Dr. Nate Salah
Cause you're doing college credits. 

[00:04:28] Musab Safi
Yeah. So I doing a program where I went from high school and I'm no longer going to high school now in college. So, um, fully in college now at 16, a 16. 

[00:04:41] Dr. Nate Salah
Hey man. Would you consider yourself a. A driven person. 

[00:04:46] Musab Safi
I would say so. Yeah, I would say so. 

[00:04:48] Dr. Nate Salah
Just want to do your best, whatever you do. So the clothing brand, I want to come to something else in a little bit. So the clothing brand, uh, Pashsho. 

[00:04:57] Musab Safi
Yes. Pashsho. P A S H S H O. 

[00:05:01] Dr. Nate Salah
If I wanted to buy Pashsho like a hoodie, where would I go? 

[00:05:05] Musab Safi
Um, on our website, we sell directly direct to consumer on our website.

[00:05:11] Dr. Nate Salah
And what's the website address? 

[00:05:12] Musab Safi
Um, officialpashsho.com. 

[00:05:14] Dr. Nate Salah
Okay. All right. So I can just hop on, I can buy some gear. Yeah. 

[00:05:18] Musab Safi
And there you go right now. Um, we just had our first drop. We're working on our next job right now. Okay. So, so yeah. But as we speak, uh, I, my designer is working on designs for our next drop.

[00:05:31] Dr. Nate Salah
Nice. I like black and gray. You have black and gray? Yeah. Um. Or could I? 

[00:05:37] Musab Safi
Yeah, we have, we had, we, um, our last drop was full black. I could probably get you a hoodie, um. 

[00:05:43] Dr. Nate Salah
Or, or. Yeah, I'll pay for it. You'll pay for it? Oh yeah, I'm happy to contribute to the cause. Yeah. 

[00:05:50] Musab Safi
Yeah, it's a, um, full black, full, uh, Um, black, um, hoodie and pants and then for our last shot, we had like design. So three different designs, blue and blue and, uh, white, uh, and then another one was red and like beige and white and another one was like, uh, purple and green. 

[00:06:10] Dr. Nate Salah
Nice. Do you design? Do you have others do it? 

[00:06:12] Musab Safi
No, I have a designer. 

[00:06:14] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. So how does that work? You give the designer your, your vision and the designer runs with it?

[00:06:19] Musab Safi
Yes. He owns 10 percent of the company. Um, I gave him 10 percent because he's a really hard worker and in buyers. And also I don't have as much money to pay him. So I gave him percentage instead. So I do, I do also pay him as well. 

[00:06:35] Dr. Nate Salah
That that's a great philosophy. In fact, folks that you might've heard of, uh, Walt Disney, uh, Milton, uh, different people like Steve Jobs, they, they paid people as well in stock. Yeah. Now the, the cool thing was that part ownership in those companies today was worth a whole lot of money today. Right? So, uh, you could be, you could be, you could be making millionaire. A millionaire and your partner just by, by, by that percent ownership, because 

[00:07:06] Musab Safi
That's kind of what I promised him and what he believes in. He believes in the mission. 

[00:07:13] Dr. Nate Salah
So what's different about your brand in terms of like the, the, the clothing itself? Is it pretty comfortable? Is it? 

[00:07:18] Musab Safi
It's, it's extremely, everyone always, everyone was saying like everyone that tried it, we, we got a lot of people trying it. We gave, we gave it our samples. Um, we gave it to a celebrity. Um, Like 6 million followers. Um, I met him. He's gonna model for our next brand. I mean, our next drop as well. Um, everyone always said this is extremely comfy. This is extremely comfy. And the designs are pretty good. On our next drop, we're gonna try to put a unique twist to it. So we stand out from everyone else. But we're gonna keep that comfort that we provide. 

[00:07:54] Dr. Nate Salah
Nice. Yeah. Comfort's huge. Like I have a, I have a pullover that's super comfortable. I wear it all the time and people don't realize like when you find some piece of clothing that's like your most comfortable piece, that'll be it. Like I could probably get rid of 90 percent of my wardrobe. And then just stay with the comfy stuff and roll with that. So, that's important. Is there, is there a plan to expand it out to any other types of, of activities or different like, are we gonna do like different kinds of clothes, shoes, things like that in the future? Yes. Uh, other merch? 

[00:08:32] Musab Safi
So, um, our first drop we dropped with, um, pants, uh, sweatpants and hoodie. Um, this drop we're gonna drop with two shirts, uh, pants, and a hoodie or jacket. Um, and then we're planning on expanding to all. And then once we get big enough we can just Not being dropped. So we're going to keep the website open and then maybe, um, sell to specific stores, so have, have them being sold directly in store, which is going to be nice as well.

[00:09:05] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Well, any particular stores you would want to be in featured in.

[00:09:12] Musab Safi
A couple, um, When we first, when we, when we get big enough, maybe like some big stores like, you know, PacSun, stuff like that. But, um, like right off the bat maybe, um, DripNation, stuff like that. Um, small, smaller stores, but everyone goes to them. Um, that, that, like I know some of the owners. Stuff like that. 

[00:09:33] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Yeah. Start there. Start there. Get your celebrity pretentious potentially folks who love your your gear Get them to advertise for you get get some viral Advertising going yeah rock and roll and then once you Have this amazing business. You have to figure out what am I gonna do with all this money? It's you know, we laugh but it's definitely a problem people have to figure out what I'm gonna do and I love how you've asked Me already about hi. How can I save money on taxes? It's nice to have a an uncle with an accounting firm Yeah, yeah tax planning strategy? 

[00:10:12] Musab Safi
When I get rich. I'm gonna ask you how do I get out of this? 

[00:10:15] Dr. Nate Salah
I like how you phrase that. I like how you phrase that instead of saying if I get rich, you said when I get rich, you notice that 

[00:10:23] Musab Safi
I have a lot of belief and trust in myself. 

[00:10:26] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah, that's confidence. You know, it's important to have belief in yourself. It's been said to believe is to be living. So if you believe something that you're living it out and and incidentally, confidence is different than arrogance and it's important to have confidence, but not area. So arrogance is an inflated sense of your own importance. And confidence is simply an assurance, you know, when you're assured I'm assured that I'm going to get there and you've already taken steps in your own life as a young man to build the habits and the discipline in the area. Uh, you're not only not only in the clothing. You're also an athlete. You're a championship boxer. Tell me about that. 

[00:11:10] Musab Safi
Um, so yeah, I won state championship in boxing. Well, it's yeah, it's the Golden Gloves For people who know what like more about boxing. It's the championship is called Golden Gloves And I, and I, I did win that, um, I was 89 pounds and I won the 112 division and my opponent was 113 or 114, one of those. And I was fasting too. It was my, uh, uh, fasting month Ramadan. 

[00:11:39] Dr. Nate Salah
Amazing. So you were under the weight of your normal weight. You were technically, uh, Less nourished than you would be in normal circumstances, you went in and box with someone who was how many pounds more than you 20 over 20 pounds. So that's, that's a, that's a, about a 25 percent variance roughly in weight, pretty significant and you still won. Yes. How'd you win? What'd you do? 

[00:12:11] Musab Safi
I don't know. It's that, that, that hard work that I put in before, and I guess also, um, I just, that determination within the ring.

[00:12:21] Dr. Nate Salah
How much work did you put in to get to that place? What was your schedule like? 

[00:12:25] Musab Safi
I would say, I went five to six days a week. Uh, four to five hours a day. Immediately after school, I would just go to the gym. 

[00:12:33] Dr. Nate Salah
Five to six days a week. How many hours? 

[00:12:36] Musab Safi
Four to five hours a day. 

[00:12:37] Dr. Nate Salah
A day. So you would basically spend all evening there?  Yes. Until like, probably like, time to eat? 

[00:12:42] Musab Safi
From three to eight. 

[00:12:43] Dr. Nate Salah
Three to eight? And then you'd go home because the gym closes. Would you have stayed later if the gym stayed open? Yeah. What was motivating you? 

[00:12:56] Musab Safi
I guess my love for the sport and also, um, the determination to become a boxer, which, um, which, which was my, which was my dream. 

[00:13:07] Dr. Nate Salah
You achieved, you achieved it. You became a boxer through that, through that process. Were there any inspirations for you in that? In that space? No one. 

[00:13:17] Musab Safi
No one really. I mean, I had some. 

[00:13:19] Dr. Nate Salah
Did you?

[00:13:20] Musab Safi
Some people that I wanted to be like 

[00:13:21] Dr. Nate Salah
Rocky Balboa. No, no. Muhammad Ali. Ali. A real boxer. He was one of my, yeah, not a fictional one. 

[00:13:30] Musab Safi
He was one of my, he was, he was my favorite fighter of for sure. Um, Mike Tyson. And I really liked Mike Tyson. 

[00:13:36] Dr. Nate Salah
So move like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Uh, fascinating. Yeah. He, both of them, uh, icons in the boxing world. So it's, it's the big question has come up. I'm going to ask you this question regarding those two. Big question always comes up. If Mike Tyson fought Muhammad Ali when they're both in their prime, who would win? 

[00:14:05] Musab Safi
I would say to be honest, my personal opinion is Muhammad Ali. I would say he wins. Uh, first off, Mike Tyson admitted it. Uh, he said, I would lose to this man if we were in our prime. 

[00:14:19] Dr. Nate Salah
But would he have said it perhaps just, you know, walking in some level of humility? 

[00:14:24] Musab Safi
That's, that's what people argue. That's what people argue. But I just personally believe that, um, the way, the way Muhammad Ali fought. He fought heavyweight fighters. I mean, he fought heavy hitters, right? Um, um, very, he fought a lot of really strong fighters and he defeated them. Uh, I just look at that as, as a way, like the specific technique that, Muhammad Ali fought in and the way Mike Tyson fought he would have gotten gassed eventually he would have gotten, uh, he would have gotten K. O'd cuz K. O'd or Yeah, T. K. O'd, whatever. Um, you want to call it, but I wouldn't I would say Muhammad Ali. 

[00:15:10] Dr. Nate Salah
The technique it's important you bring that up. So the technique over over brute strength, Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. 

[00:15:19] Musab Safi
That's why I won all my fights. 

[00:15:23] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Cause you're not the biggest guy. 

[00:15:24] Musab Safi
I'm not the biggest guy in the room, but I'm definitely the most talented guy.

[00:15:28] Dr. Nate Salah
Your technique was, was the, the, the variance, the overcoming factor that caused the victory. Yes. But not just the technique. The technique was a result of the dedication. 

[00:15:41] Musab Safi
Yes, the dedication and hard work that I put in. 

[00:15:44] Dr. Nate Salah
Did you ever watch any, uh, fight, uh, reels to, to, uh, see the styling of either of these fighters and, and, and model any of it? Did any of that ever come up? Or was it completely unique? 

[00:15:57] Musab Safi
Yeah, for sure. Um, I was, I would always, I would always watch past fights. Yeah. 

[00:16:06] Dr. Nate Salah
Is there any fight that stands out more than any other that you're like, that was, that was a good fight for sure. 

[00:16:12] Musab Safi
Um, the, I forgot the exact name, but, um, when Muhammad Ali, he was, he was coming back, uh, after, uh, after the heavyweight championship, um, Everyone thought he was the underdog. Everyone looked at him as the underdog. Like, he was gonna get KO'd, um, um, George, uh, George Foreman. Mhm. He was fighting George Foreman. 

[00:16:38] Dr. Nate Salah
And, uh Mhm. Yeah. He won. He won. Yeah. 

[00:16:41] Musab Safi
Yeah. That's, that's what I, that's why I like that one a lot. Like, he was getting beat on until, like, the seventh round, and then he won. He Now he trash talked a lot. Yeah. 

[00:16:55] Dr. Nate Salah
Did you pick up that technique too, or no? 

[00:16:57] Musab Safi
I guess I did. I would like, I love talking while in the ring. 

[00:17:03] Dr. Nate Salah
Is that right? What do you say? 

[00:17:04] Musab Safi
I don't know, I just say random things. Mmhmm. Like, like one, I'll talk like, like, it'll throw. My opponent off completely. I'll be like, man, I didn't eat dinner today. Then you punch him in the face.

[00:17:21] Dr. Nate Salah
That's great. That's great. And so tell me about, uh, when you went to the, you go to a finals where you, uh, in golden gloves, how does that work? 

[00:17:33] Musab Safi
It's a tournament. Got up to the finals and I won that. 

[00:17:38] Dr. Nate Salah
Did you, on your way up, did you have confidence that you were going to get there? For sure. Did you have confidence that you were going to win it? Yes. Prior to, like even 100%. 100%? Mm hmm. Wow, that's, that's, that's very confident. Yeah. Yeah. So, you trained, trained, and trained. And, and, and what was it that gave you the confidence that you were going to, to win all the way? 

[00:18:04] Musab Safi
I just know myself. And I know, like, I have to win. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna accept defeat. I'm going to, I'm going to win this, this fight. And that's, that's, that was it. That's all I needed. 

[00:18:19] Dr. Nate Salah
Did you analyze the other boxers at all? 

[00:18:22] Musab Safi
Yeah, I did. Yeah. The finalists. I analyzed him. I knew him. 

[00:18:29] Dr. Nate Salah
So did you what did you analyze about him? 

[00:18:31] Musab Safi
This is fighting technique. I knew how he fights I knew it. 

[00:18:35] Dr. Nate Salah
Uh, I know do you find the holes maybe the weaknesses? Yeah, what kind of weaknesses did you see that you were gonna that you that you're gonna.

[00:18:41] Musab Safi
After certain combos his hand would drop and sir for like a second. So, um, like in a second round, I remember I purposely backed up into the ropes, I put my hands up, let him throw his combo, and then pre fired, uh, like an overhand, over and around, um, that's the heaviest shot you can throw, and, it's like in between a straight and a hook, and I get swungin around and uh, Boom hit him right here. He like literally stumbled back the whole crowd went wild and I don't know. Yeah. Yeah That was like probably the highlight of the night. 

[00:19:22] Dr. Nate Salah
So you're a thinker. Calculated. Yeah, That's awesome. So then so then you win the Golden Globes. What do you do any type of awards or trophies for that? 

[00:19:34] Musab Safi
Yes, I got a first-place trophy now sits in my gym My gym. Yeah, I bazooka my gym. 

[00:19:40] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So with that mindset, then that then informs your tenacity about what you'd like to accomplish in life. Yes, because you know, you can accomplish. 

[00:19:55] Musab Safi
You can do what, I what I put my mind to. 

[00:19:57] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Does anything ever slow you down? 

[00:19:59] Musab Safi
Myself? Yeah, that's about it.

[00:20:02] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah, we're, that's the only thing that stands in our way, right? Mm hmm. Us. 

[00:20:05] Musab Safi
Yeah. We were talking about that earlier, I think. Mmhmm. 

[00:20:07] Dr. Nate Salah
A lot of people think that circumstances and whatnot stops them. Uh, circumstances are going to happen regardless. So the question is, what do we do? Yeah. Yeah. So the future, the future is ahead of you. 16 years old, going to college, you've already won golden gloves. You've got your, your clothing line. You're working on potential, uh, endorsements, let's say, uh, for that. Let's fast forward, like 10 years, 26 years old. What is going on in myself's life at 26?

[00:20:45] Musab Safi
I see myself chilling in Dubai. Dubai, right? Rich, millionaire, hopefully. Chillin with my wife, having kids. Uh, me and my brother, uh, chillin' He has his wife now. That's, that's what I see myself like. Yeah. Having a, like, not having to worry about, uh, any financial issues, stuff like that. 

[00:21:11] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah, stable financially. Financially, not only stable, but independent. Independent. Financially independent. And what would you do with some of that money? Money. What would you have? We're both car guys. So, you know, you might as well just throw it out, bro. 

[00:21:24] Musab Safi
I would want some of those cars. I'm gonna come, I'm gonna come get that C7 off you. Okay. That C7. 

[00:21:29] Dr. Nate Salah
That's what I'm talking about. That collector car, right? Put that boy in a, in a, in a trophy room. No, drive it. Drive it. That's what they're meant to be driven. I'm gonna have to. 

[00:21:38] Musab Safi
Yeah. I'm not a fan of buying cars and not driving it. 

[00:21:41] Dr. Nate Salah
Trailer Queens. We don't want that, no. 

[00:21:43] Musab Safi
I guess some Rolls Royce. McLaren. That's my dream car. Yeah. McLaren for sure. 

[00:21:47] Dr. Nate Salah
Any particular model? Subs You like, you like the 720s, the 650s, 760. Oh, yes. The big dog. Yeah. Yeah. Or the, or the F1. F1's nice. Yeah. F1's nice. Yes. Yes. Very cool. How many kids? Do you have any idea how many kids you want? Three. Three. You got it all dialed in. Yeah. 

[00:22:08] Musab Safi
Two brothers and two sons and a daughter. 

[00:22:11] Dr. Nate Salah
That's it. Yeah. Hey, well, by the time you're, you know, able to have kids, you'll probably have genetic, uh, sort of, you know, you can just markers. You can just like say, just press buttons. Right. 

[00:22:22] Musab Safi
That one's going to be a girl.

[00:22:26] Dr. Nate Salah
With the first one to be a boy so that, you know, you can make sure his little sister's not, you know, you know, Protect her, right? Protect her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember me and two older brothers and a sister. It's all good. 

[00:22:36] Musab Safi
I feel like the brothers, the brothers need, I mean, the sons need a brother.  I think girls can find sisters somewhere else.

[00:22:45] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah, probably. Do you, okay, so someone listening, and I love that you're on the program too, especially like I said, we, we, it's refreshing to, you know, Have someone in the show who's young, who's motivated, who has some clarity. I don't think even I've met adults with as much clarity about their future as you, you know, exactly what you want. And I'd love to interview you in another 10 years and see how that's, you know, how that's happening. 

[00:23:12] Musab Safi
Hopefully, this is way bigger. 

[00:23:13] Dr. Nate Salah
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Tell me about, uh, individuals in your life who. Uh, who have inspired you, uh, in, in, in your own world, what kind of inspirations do you have, whether they be, you know, uh, close people, you know, or perhaps even people far off, like, uh, you know, people that are like celebrities or whatnot.

[00:23:37] Musab Safi
Some people that I, that I look like up to kind of, I would say I look, I look to my parents a lot. There's certain people like, like certain celebrities I look up to. Uh, mostly my parents though. Probably. Probably. 

[00:23:54] Dr. Nate Salah
They're worthy to be looked up to. They're, they're solid. Yeah. Not just because your mom's my sister, they're solid. What about, what, what about if you're going to say someone listening doesn't have perhaps your discipline, your motivation, your habits, what, what advice would you give to someone who desires that someone who really wants to be. As, as, as clear and motivated as you, what are, what would you say to a person like that? What kind of advice would you give them? 

[00:24:27] Musab Safi
You just got to work on yourself first, like work on your discipline. Um, you got to kind of got to dream big. You got to, you got to find out what you want to do before you begin. You got to know exactly what your, where your goal is, exactly what you want to do. Um, without a goal, you have nothing. I would say. That's probably what I would say. 

[00:24:51] Dr. Nate Salah
Number one, vision, right? Your vision defines your purpose. Yes. And it, it's, it's your, it's your compass. Really, it gives you direction and it gives you destination and it's what holds you to your, your day because it tells you what's permitted and what's prohibited, what's acceptable and what's not. And it drives you. It has to be compelling. It has to be worthwhile. You have to, it has to be important. It has to be attractive. It has to be achievable and all of those things in vision make it something that is in some sense is irresistible. The irresistible offer. What is your irresistible offer in life? Yeah, big question, right? 

[00:25:39] Musab Safi
Irresistible offer, probably like it's either fancy cars or actually probably just chilling, traveling the world with my wife. 

[00:25:49] Dr. Nate Salah
Freedom. 

[00:25:50] Musab Safi
Freedom. 

[00:25:50] Dr. Nate Salah
Freedom. That's your most irresistible offer. Freedom to pursue what you desire most and Yeah. I think your wife, she might be listening, bro. She might be listening. She's like, Oh, that's my dude right there. Hey, me, me, right? Hey, you're going somewhere. You're going somewhere. Well, and that's important too, because people want to bind with others who are going someplace that is that they want to go to. Yeah. Yeah. And you have to be able to, to clarify that. Yeah. Speak it out and then deliver. And then deliver. Yeah. Yeah. You can't just talk. Yeah. You gotta walk.

[00:26:30] Musab Safi
Yes. I feel like don't tell anyone your hopes and dreams. Don't tell, I mean, you could tell some people, but mainly keep your hopes and dreams to yourself. Mainly just wake up, tell yourself, this is what my goal for today is. This is what my goal for the rest of my life is. And you work towards that. And then you look at your past day and you say, Hey, I'm a little bit better than yesterday. The importance of seeing and and of seeing your goal for the future. And seeing your improvement from the past. And and comparing yourself to people who are better than you. Not people who are or uh, who are not as accomplished as you. Is is your steps to to to success? 

[00:27:13] Dr. Nate Salah
Wise words, young man. Very wise. You know, I told you this term earlier today. I'll say it on, on Mike. Yes. That means you're like your uncle on your mother's side, by the way, in Arabic, you know, there's father and mother's side. Sorry, Ripon. Well, the truth is, is that your, your drive, your dedication is admirable. Not many people have it, uh, whether they're young or whether they're older, it's refreshing, and I'm not just saying that because you're my nephew, but I'm saying that because it's just true, it's a fact, and staying, staying focused on, on that, your, your vision's gonna change, it's gonna mold, it's gonna adapt, of course, life has its way of, of, of, of modifying things, it doesn't, it doesn't mean that, that we don't still set out, because it might be a little different, it might not be, In dubai you might be someplace else right you might you know my C7. Might not be for sale.

[00:28:12] Musab Safi
Might have totaled it.

[00:28:17] Dr. Nate Salah
No, no, no, no, no, hopefully not. No, no, 

[00:28:20] Musab Safi
Or are you maybe you sold it somewhere.

[00:28:22] Dr. Nate Salah
Or maybe it's just you know, nostalgic it's gonna stay there. The point is is that you you you are. Yeah, take it off my hands Take it off my old the old man's hands, right? There there's a there's You A pathway to pursue and you see that pathway and it's how you get there is going to change over time because you're going to get new information, you're gonna adapt, but you can continue to move forward and there's your resilience is going to be so important in how you become all the things that you desire to be. All right. We'll keep, we'll keep this going. I'm going to keep, because people are going to know the progress of Musab. 

[00:29:05] Musab Safi
Yes.Keep inviting me on here. I'll tell you more. 

[00:29:07] Dr. Nate Salah
Your progress. Thanks for being here. 

[00:29:10] Musab Safi
Yep. Thank you. Thank you for having me. 

[00:29:12] Dr. Nate Salah
Well, my friend, I am so thrilled that you joined me on this episode of A Call to Leadership. And before you go to the next episode, especially if you're binge listening, take a moment. I would love to get your honest review right here on your screen. Your feedback is so important. It helps the podcast. It encourages me and it helps me. It helps me to give you more and more and more value. So I can't wait to read your review. I can't wait to be with you on the next episode. I'm Dr. Nate Salah. This is A Call to Leadership.

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