Live music, liberation, and the meaning of success - this conversation with Ben Ely is a deep dive into what truly matters. From the raw energy of Livid Festival and Brisbane’s underground music scene to Regurgitator’s intergenerational impact, we explore how creativity, relationships, and personal growth shape a musician’s journey.
In this episode, I sit down with Ben for the first time since 2008’s The Great Australian Album Series, reflecting on the changes, challenges, and revelations of the years in between. We talk about gentle sobriety, co-parenting, and the human drive to create music—why it’s more than just sound, but a tool for survival.
If you’ve followed my work over the past 30 years, you know I like to go deep, fast—so let’s get straight to it.
Themes you'll hear:
🎵 The cultural rebellion of Brisbane’s live music scene
🎵 Sobriety's impact on all aspects of life
🎵 The key to Regurgitator’s long-lasting impact
🎵 Redefining success beyond fame and industry hype
🎵 The intersection of creativity, co-parenting, friendship and sobriety
🎵 Why music is essential to human survival
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This is a conversation for men about men, but it is also very much a conversation for all people, no matter how you identify, because we're all in this gigantic exquisite shitshow together. It is about the gap many of us are feeling and starting to acknowledge in this juncture of our attempts at equality and in it, Ryk Goddard offers a fascinating approach to reducing the world's suffering, through, wait for it, sex for men. And don't aim to make any preconceived notions about this conversation, because they will be incorrect.
Ryk Goddard has an extraordinary mind. I met him for 6 minutes in Hobart and I was immediately fascinated by the sophisticated nuances in the way his brain ticked.
Ryk Goddard is a comedian, an MC, a presentation skills coach, he’s from a theatre background and he is the mind the world needs right now.
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Is there any more difficult terrain to navigate as a human being, than heartbreak? That wretched feeling when you know something has to end, it’s crushing, you feel your whole world tilting sideways and you know that things will never be the same – whether that’s because of an event, someone has crossed a line that there’s no going back from or because of the slow corrosion of a relationship dying over time.
How good would you say you are at breaking up? What feelings does the very thought of a breakup initiate in your body? Are you in the pain of separation right now – at the start, the thick heavy going middle or the time of grief that comes with the spaciousness of the definitive end? How are you holding up? Are you separating as well as you'd like?
In this episode of How Human, we’re looking at How To Break Up Well.
Nikki Parkinson is a Divorce and Separation Doula, Coach, Strategist, Parenting Coordinator, with 30 years of experience in Family Law, she’s spoken at TEDx on these topics but her biggest learning curve was her own divorce. Nikki. During one of the hardest times of our lives, can we go into it - despite all of the hurt - with the goal of doing it well and achieve a wonderful outcome?
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How does a small child recover from losing their Mum? Not just survive, full of self-destruction and fear, but learn great joy, even gratitude for the darkness that once was your universe?
How do you come back from the shame of things you once did as a result of that sense of abandonment, to truly love yourself as an equally precious part of the same 'one big organism'?
I first met Clay Macdonald 22 years ago when The Beautiful Girls released their debut album Learn Yourself. Clay was one half of the band’s rhythm section, along with drummer Mitch Connoly and I was presenter of Triple J Drive at the time with Charlie Pickering. There was definitely a certain, let’s say, free spiritedness, that struck a chord with my punk anarchy.
Over the years we’ve popped up in each other’s lives at the most seemingly random but of course, serendipitous times – charity surf comps, in the forest in the Northern Rivers and more recently on a relatively remote beach, several weeks in a row. I became fascinated by the man that Clay had become, living very simply was one part of it, the other was this effervescent, contagious joy that glimmers out of his entire being .
How do you find that in a world that’s geared toward fear, toward self-doubt? How do you take that corrosive poison out of your heart and turn it into self-love? Meditating for two hours every morning, and stopping for 3 consious breaths every 3 hours is part of Clay’s secret, but there was so much more to Clay’s inspiring metamorphosis than I saw coming.
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Hannah Darling is abundant in life's extremes. She is poetry in motion and an alchemist turning despair, hardships and challenges into things of great beauty.
From shining on the stage in the Australian series The Voice, to loving someone in the chaos of heroin addiction. She has seen the pointy fringes of life's edges first-hand.
Hold onto your hearts friends, there’s a bumpy, beautiful ride ahead. Hannah Darling writes incredible songs, full of delicate stories that manage to pound at the door of your heart – and - she has a beautiful voice. Her gift comes to life in sound. A strange irony for her Mum, who was born a CODA – child of deaf adults – who became Mum to a singer. Hannah Darling, along with her Mum, navigates two worlds – a world heaving with soundscapes and a world where sound is absent. But that’s just a portion of Hannah’s tale - she grew up in a house of brothers - of drug addiction – it’s very worst consequence and it’s most unforeseen outcome. Hannah’s fragility alchemises into strength through a trait that perhaps is the most absolute definition of human – the capacity to turn suffering into art.
in the deaf community, Hannah and her Mum run festivals, events and immersive, nurturing, uplifting retreat experiences. Their aim – to fill the void between the most basic supports and the things that make a human life really worth living.
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What is the superpower of grace and how can it help us as humans to overcome enormous tragedy?
Madeleine West has seen the best and the worst of the human experience. She is an actor, becoming a household face in the iconic Australian shows Neighbours and Underbelly, a mother of 6, author of the book Six Under Eight and a staunch environmentalist.
In 2002 Madeleine suffered terrible injuries when she was hit by a bus and whilst unconscious she was robbed. In 2022, Madeleine revealed that she was a child sexual abuse survivor and she sought justice against Peter White, her childhood neighbour who had abused her for 5 years. In making public her experience, 6 other victims came forward and Peter White was imprisoned for his crimes.
How does someone learn how to keep getting up after being knocked down? What is in the human mind that enables one person to dust themselves off and rise with grace, and someone else to fall into a pit of darkness?
In this episode Maddy and I talk about serious injuries, child sexual abuse, being in command of your own mind, the discipline of grace and what part of the brain determines us as being human.
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As a mother, a foster carer, a therapist and a fairly compassionate human being, I often watch the world in horror, as judgements are made about others disregarding the path they walked in their childhood. Often we express outrage at child abuse but when the effects of that abuse play out in that child during adolescents and into adulthood, suddenly all compassion dries up – we get convenient amnesia to make way for righteous outrcries – forgetting the horrors that person may have been raised in.
For my guest today, the conditioning that was set in motion during their horrifically violent childhood wasn’t to be an abuser but a criminal. Every cell in his being was conditioned for crime, patterns violently forced upon him by his career criminal father. Along the way there were other harmful habits but the one that wove most deeply into Ron Isherwood was crime. His last stint in prison began in 2002 when he was sentenced to 18 years for conspiracy to import cocaine.
Through it all, there was a strange and powerful thread in Ron, one in vast contrast to his upbringing – the desire to help others. And now, with his patterns of crime dissolved, helping others is his fulltime gig. Ron is the creator and founder of The Truth About Addiction and the author of Born Into A Lie Of Crime. This tale is of movie-esque proportions, full of grit and wisdom. So sit back and take it all in. This is not your everyday conversation.
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Over the past 15 years, since changing my career, my geography, my habits and my name, I've been on a great quest to learn about what makes us humans tick. On this episode, I go solo to share some of the significant things I've learned about change along the way.
What it means to make big life changes - do they really matter?
Why change is both so hard, as well as unavoidable.
What is the cage that keeps us all trapped in these loops of suffering?
And how do we fly free?
Join me for this juicy little snapshot into the human mind to understand yourself, and the people around you, a little better.
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This episode takes yet another plot twist, with an indepth and intimate chat between two yoga teachers, together for 13 years, having raised 6 children between them and at times, holding on for dear life.
In this episode I invited in my own wingman, Shane Turner, and we put ourselves - and our relationship - under the microscope to reveal our own patterns, the conditioning that we developed through our own parent's relationships and the ones we've developed during our time together. We talk about the good, the icky and the problematic (or should I say pivotal?).
Relationship challenges, parenting patterns, the impact of the grim reaper, tools to withstand the tough times, the thrill of sharing someone else's clothes and so much more.
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Dr Lauren Tober is a psychologist, a Senior Yoga Teacher and the creator of the Mental Health Aware Yoga Teacher Training. What I love about Lauren’s work is how she integrates evidence based data with that that is beyond the measure of science – the subtlties of the deeper self that yoga interacts with – in a clinical setting. She finds a way to expand beyond the confines of modern psychology through the breadth of yogic knowledge, utilising a vast palette of tools to access the needs of the individual human mind.
In this conversation we chat about what patterns are from a psychology perspective and how that compares with how yoga looks at patterns aka samskaras, we get into the nitty gritty of one of the peskiest narratives known to humankind – the good old inner dialogue of ‘I’m not good enough’ and you'll hear a secret confession of my own about what I thought of my fans back in the triple j days.
If you want to explore more of Dr Lauren Tober's life-affirming offerings, head to www.laurentober.com
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In this episode, we’re jumping straight into the nitty gritty of an illicit drug with the worst publicity, with a former high level sportsperson who was well on his way to an incredible career as a pro basketballer before meth amphetamines took him over and diminished all other aspects of his world.
Jack Nagle is the founder of Real Drug Talk, he’s a recovery advocate and a real voice in the conversation of addiction which has been fraught over the years with approaches that have caused more harm than good, more shame than freedom and stigma that's still stuck to this very day.
Jack is a deadset legend, a profoundly authentic and necessary voice in this space and a man who took himself to the furthest edges of meth use, only just living to tell the tale.
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This episode is very different. Not looking so much at the patterns that we're stuck in but instead how big events can change us at our deepest levels.
This is a story of one man being taken to his depths through intense loss, of a man who is still very much learning how to swim in the waters of a grief that most days he cannot see the edges of. Yet somehow, with the potential of the human mind, and the enormity of the human spirit, he is doing it. Through the love of his daughter Poppy, the voice of his partner Sara, the vivaciousness of Lil and the fortitude of his own heart, he is doing it.
Through the immense grace of Mark Bayley, this episode takes us into the often hidden world of big grief - losing a loved one type grief or loved ones as is the case for Mark - and in doing so highlights the importance of such conversations, of facing the reality that in being human, grief is inescapable.
How can we learn to grieve better?
How can we prepare ourselves for inescapable grief?
How can we be more deeply present for others in times of vast despair?
And if you haven't yet met Mark's phenomenal partner Sara Tindley through her episode in season 1, perhaps take a listen to that first here.
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What is the correlation between alcohol patterns and extreme sports?
What part does self-identity play in trying to kick a harmful booze habit?
And when you do go sober and you’re faced with the clarity of your own historical dickhead behaviour, how do you balance the books and feel not just accepting of who you were but good about yourself going forward?
In this episode, we are focusing on one of the most culturally accepted and statistically harmful substances of all time – alcohol. A known grade 1 carcinogen, the number one aggravating factor in violent assaults and partner homicide, socially accepted and legal.
Why does it get it’s hooks so deep in so many of us and why is it so hard to extract from our lives, long after it’s begun to cause us – and those around us – harm?
Jenny Valentish, is creator and host of the podcast Spirit Levels and author of the fiction Cherry Bomb, her brilliant memoir Woman Of Substances and her guidebook to understanding extreme recreational choices, Everything Harder Than Everyone Else.
Find Jenny at https://jennyvalentish.com/ and listen to Spirit Levels here.
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Sometimes patterns present in identifiable habits - small and large. Sometimes patterns are written into the very fabric of our being; they have become a part of the way we view the world without us even realising we are looking through a filter.
In this episode we are looking at what has become known as colonised conditioning. A term coined by Native Americans to describe the way European systems function, often in direct contrast to natural systems, how this has impacted our ways of thinking about place and how this colonised way collided with existing Indigenous systems to the great detriment of not just Indigenous people but to everyone, through the disconnection with and destruction of the natural world.
But what does that really look like in the context of everyday life? What does it feel like in our bodies, how is it permeating our understanding of everything and how can the human mind be decolonised?
Ella Noah-Bancroft is an extraordinary Bundjalung writer, speaker, creator, advocate and activist for living more harmoniously with the natural world, she is a voice for returning to the old ways in a modern context and remembering how to collaborate instead of decimate.
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Welcome to the DISSOLVING PATTERNS series of Lissie Turner Presents... where Lissie takes you deep into the wiring of the human mind, through the unhealthy, unhelpful and harmful patterns that make us suffer. Through common negative patterns around food, alcohol, social media, sex, gaming, money, drugs, politics, religion and more, as well as through the deepest most pervasive patterns around love, ego, desire, disdain and fear, Lissie will take you on a journey through the most subversive threads of the human neural tapestry to find out not only how you tick but more importantly, who you are and how to human better.
Welcome to episode 1.
Who first told you about sex? What restrictions and reservations do you have about yourself as a sexual creature? Are there certain things that are taboo for you? Why?
How have you come to believe what you believe about the very loaded subject of sex?
From that first birds and the bees conversation (if you even had one), to your friendship group, to religion, culture, pop culture and societal expectations, there are few fundamental necessities for life as fraught with as many opinions, rules and patterns as SEX.
In this episode, Lissie catches up with Somatic Counsellor, Sexologist and Sex Educator, Jo Brown from Jo Brown Mojo, to talk about all things doing it and doing it 'right'.
If you'd like to get in touch with Jo, you can find her on instagram at @jobrownmojo
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Matt O’Brien is a unicorn: a warm loving friendship facilitating creature of magical proportions, with a billowing mane and an equally impressive moustache.
In pubs, festivals and venues all around the country, Matt creates ways for people to connect. Deeply. Through fun and clever initiatives he breaks down awkward social barriers and enables complete strangers to become best friends, instantly.
Matt is the Brand Marketing Manager at Heaps Normal but it is in his role as the Founder of a sublimely powerful and utterly adorable social enterprise called Tell Your Friends You Love Them where he is cracking people open in the best of ways.
So how does a young man from the country affect the very fabric of our social conditioning? And what ignited this fire to support all of us to be with people in a deeper and more genuine way?
These are curiosities I’ve been musing over since I went to an amazing little festival called Boogie in Tallorook Victoria, earlier this year.
Who is this beautiful man behind the love? Let’s find out together.
If you would like to explore more of the Glory That Is Matto, check him out in all of these glorious places:
Matto @rippingshredness_swb
TYFYLT: @tellyourfriendsyoulovethem
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Okay. This episode is very different. It is both very personal but also prolific. I would really, really like you to tune into this one...
In 2018 an extraordinary little foundation that I had been in awe of at a very close level for nearly a decade – for their small all-female team of brilliant scientists, their incredible support of innovation, capacity to fundraise and of course, the integrity and commitment they had to environment – received a whopping $443 000 000 from the federal government. What should have been an incredible moment for the reef, became an all out brawl. There was the suspicion that came from the lack of tender process, the fact that the money was coming from the Liberal Govt not known for it’s support of environment and of course the uproar from other larger organisations in the marine space that demanded to know why this little not for profit was getting money they of course wanted.
At the heart of it was this passionate team who had up until that moment simply been in their lane doing everything they could to protect the reef, right up until the moment they received the email that told them the news. On that team, was my number one mentor, one of my dearest and absolute favourite humans in the world: the Executive Director of Projects & Partnerships, Theresa Fyffe.
If you've known me personally in the last 25 years, you’ll have heard me speak about her with immense admiration for her integrity, sickening work ethic and mind-boggling commitment to her crusade of making the world a better place. If you knew me pre the last 25 years, you’ll know we used to smack the shit out of each other.
This is an interview with a personal twist BUT Theresa is one of the most tenacious and curious intellects I’ve ever known, her story travels from the western suburbs of Brisbane to falling pregnant at 16, becoming one of the youngest heads of a university department in QLD history, to East Central Africa, Saudia Arabia, to addressing the UN in front of thousands to take the plight and protection of the Great Barrier Reef worldwide
Get your snorkel on and take a deep breath, you’re going to need it, as we dive into the story of one little western suburbs kid who could.
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Yes, I know what you’re thinking. Why has Lissie chosen to chat with this very rugged looking bloke? Well hopefully by now you’ll trust me enough to know that if they’re a guest on this pod, there’s something a little bit rich and special lurking not far beneath the outer crust. Luke Andrews or Blue as his red hair has demanded he be called in this country, is like that in so many ways. At his heart a very soft, thoughtful and kindness driven human, who puts being in service at his centre but on the surface, that may look a little different.
As a former Special Forces soldier, who’s entire adult life, until recently, has been defined by that very strong identity, Blue on the surface is all braun, muscle and short back and sides but underneath lurks a funny, light-hearted and deeply caring human.
Blue is one of the Founding Directors of the Krait Foundation, helping retired Special Forces Soldiers find their feet in their new future and an all-round legend.
If you're wanting your spirits lifted about humans, especially big strong ones who are geared for kindness, settle in and enjoy the excellent company of Blue, and if you want to find out more - check out https://tkf.org.au/
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Yes I know! How great are Kate's! As luck would have it, three Kate's of grand intrigue were delivered to yours and my podcast doorstep to share their incredible stories, their lessons, their challenges and their own unique gems of wisdom they've collected along the way.
This third Kate in the grand trilogy of Kate's, is the fierce and radiant Kate Constantine. Once a jetsetting superhero capturing the brilliance - and tolerating the bullshit - of many an International celebrity, Kate was a woman at the top of the capitalist game. Running a company worth millions, feeling the sense of achievement and seemingly dominating this human life, until one fine day, Kate collapsed. Turning her world into a nightmare of unbearable chronic pain and changing everything.
This is the familiar story of arriving only to discover it's the wrong fucking destination. A tale of everything crashing down and in the rubble finding love, passion and home.
Kate Constantine is a fierce and passionate Gadigal woman, a wife, Fun Mum, a joy bringer, a creator and so much more. Find her art at https://www.konstantinaaboriginalart.com/about
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Dirt biking women. Snowboarding accidents. Living life to the extreme. Loving intensely. Losing beyond compare. Tragedy germinating beauty, power and being fully alive.
This episode is going to get you right in the belly. Everything about it, is at the level of OOF. There is a MASSIVE story in here that will shock you, it will change you and hopefully it will inspire and move you in ways that inject you back into living just that little bit more deeply.
This conversational dive went somewhere I didn't see coming, so breathe deep, let Kate Hardman and all of her big, bombastic, dynamic strength with all of her direct lived experience, guide you to feel into what she has to share, to not turn away from it but learn from it, let yourself lean into it, to live even more in every moment. This human life is so short, sometimes shorter than we ever see coming.
PS - Rita, this episode is for you. What an incredible big sister you have.
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Get ready for one of the most beautiful episodes you'll hear.
A story about unexpected connections, grieving, reconciling in the most delicate and powerful of ways, about the potency of the Mother Daughter connection, of creativity as a flow-through channel for agitation and tension, and the magic of small nuances, turns of phrase and seeing the world with bright eyes and a colourful spirit.
This is Kate Stroud. A delightful creature, a unicorn in human form. An artist, a visual story teller, a maker and visual translator. This is the story of a daughter, healing a mother wound through creativity and through death, of finding herself through her voice, science and art. It is a truly beautiful tale, with a truly beautiful, contemplative and creative being.
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Have you ever experienced such a deep belief in where you thought you should be in your life, who you should be but it didn't come to pass? When something didn't go your way, how did you peace with the new outcome?
Sherrie Laryse spent a lifetime knowing that her life would contain a certain something; and that that something was part of her life's purpose. But life itself (or Wendy as Sherrie likes to call it) had a different plan.
This is an adventure across decades of wanting, of seven years of trying and the process of readjusting to a new self-identity, wading through oceans of disappointment. It's a guidebook to changing your own mind when the mind is suffering, when it's snagged tightly onto something that will not come to fruition. This is a learning of how to let go, for your own good, of knowing when to stop trying, and of how to not just reach peaceful acceptance but harness all of that flailing energy and transform it into a new life purpose.
Sherrie Laryse is an Author, Emotional Intelligence Teacher, hardcore meditator, Science Yogi, Neuroscience student and first and foremost, she is a Mum. With a twist.
Contact Sherrie at www.sherrie.com.au
Find her book On Path here.
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As this podcast has gone along, it's reason for existing has morphed, refined and changed; each new guest creating a different reason for it's existence. A thread that's kept coming up is the obsession with celebrity - our fascination with putting certain people, doing certain things, up on pedestals above all others. Often giving people who are not so fabulous glory and money, whilst good people sit in the background quietly making the world a better place. Leveling the scales in some tiny way is a big part of this podcast's purpose - walking past the sparkles of fame and grabbing the hands of the humble.
The person you are about to meet has a special place in my life, his trust in my capabilities sent me hurtling me down a trajectory that overflowed with adventure, excitement and incredible conversations and granted that young woman I was from the western suburbs, Access All Areas. The man who gave me my job at triple j.
For many years he hosted Triple j heavy music program Three Hours Of Power, weekend breakfast and triple j drive . He’s Greek, loves his music, has the best laugh, even better hair and is the father of triplets.
In 2021, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (latest report as of October 2021) there were 4,248 multiple births representing 1.5% of all births (309,996) in Australia. This comprised 4,185 pairs of twins and 63 sets of triplets and higher order multiples. So how do you learn to raise three babies all at once and navigate the enormity of becoming an instant family of 5 – particularly after many tiring and pain-staking years on a difficult road of conception – and do it all with love, laugher, grace, groundedness and patience?
What do you sacrifice and what do you choose to make your life mean instead? This is the story of a man who truly put family first, a lovable character and a humble music industry legend. The iconic Costa Zouliou.
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Now this is a chat that is simply not long enough! Jen Cloher easefully extends into all the parts of life that make my heart sing, sometimes that song is sad, tender or joyful but meaningful conversation for me feels like growth and this chat has it in spades.
It was perhaps 15 years ago or more that I first met Jen Cloher, somewhere on my triple j timeline and I remember even then being captivated by this person who I perceived to be almost delicate, elfin-like yet who exuded a strength that was coming from somewhere deeper than just their own two feet. To speak with Jen now as they move into the stateliness of being an empowered human heading toward fifty is an honour and a pleasure. Jen has this year released their fifth album and to describe it, I don’t want to fumble with my own explanation but instead use these beautifully crafted words from Jen’s website:
'I Am The River, The River Is Me, Cloher’s fifth album, is verdant and rich; it luxuriates in stillness, and carries itself with cool, unfussy confidence. It suggests that home is not found in a place or a politic, but in the community you keep: Inspired by Cloher’s powerful matrilineal line of wāhine Māori, I Am The River, The River Is Me is not urgent, or hurried, but it is vital, made with the care and ease of someone who knows that their past began before birth, and will continue long after they’re gone.'
Make a cup of tea for this one, soften your chest and open the windows of your mind because a chat with Jen Cloher is a balm for the soul.
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