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Monday Beers Ep.82; Where Is The Rain?
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On this week’s episode of Monday Beers Podcast the guys sit down and cover a little bit of everything, from chasing spring turkeys to looking ahead at duck season.
The conversation dives into how things are shaping up in the field, but also gets real about the lack of rain and what that means for farmers, habitat, and the upcoming waterfowl season. It’s the kind of honest, boots-on-the-ground talk that hits close to home for anyone tied to the land.
A mix of hunting stories, real-world challenges, and plenty of laughs along the way, crack a cold one and hang out with the guys. 🍻
You don't feel that? We're sitting on the same side of the table.
SPEAKER_04Do you feel restricted? I'm fixing to move. Fixing a move. Already. I was talking about his headphone cord. He was like, fuck it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're good. No, I was looking at because I didn't know if we were recording or not when I when Jackson's talking about sexual tension and shit. So I was. Oh, you know.
SPEAKER_03Said worse things. We're off to the good start. Oh, beautiful start. Honestly. How was everybody's weekend? Oh, actually, really beautiful.
SPEAKER_04Got quite a bit of stuff done until the freak wind storm on Sunday. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah, like whenever I got back, I mean, it was just like dust bowl.
SPEAKER_04Didn't they have parts of some highway around here shut? Or like they had cops on each end of this field because the wind was blowing through there and it was like a freshly worked up field. It was so dusty. You couldn't you could only see like a hundred feet in front of the vehicle. Holy shit. So they had cops on each end of it, like you know, trying to get people to slow down before they. Wow. At all, to be honest.
SPEAKER_03What all did you get done this weekend, dude? I I didn't really talk to you.
SPEAKER_04Uh well, I uh I was doing uh been working on a video gig for the uh local bank here in Stuttgart. I've done some work for them before, like their 75th anniversary and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I actually really like that because it was a lot of storytelling and history and stuff like that. But this is just more of an advertisement piece for some new things they got going on. Uh so I did that, but also I've been I started working on my uh doing something.
SPEAKER_03Jesus, I'm trying to look something up.
SPEAKER_04I've been working on uh the duck pen to get my the baby ducks out of the uh the little bat bird or yeah in the house. Yeah, so yeah. So I've been wading around in the pond because I'm gonna build it halfway in the pond, halfway up on the bank. So obviously I gotta build this thing on an angle for the bottom and make sure it makes contact everywhere, so I'm out there measuring different depths at different distances from where I'm starting on the bank.
SPEAKER_03It's a good thing you're a carpenter.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but it threw me for a little bit of a loop. Doing it on a slant or a slope? Yeah, whenever you're working with so most bases of anything or your your foundation, you build level and it makes the rest of the building so much easier, right? Because it's square, level, you know, and then you just go up from there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, this ain't yeah. So I'm I'm working off an uneven base or a platform and trying to go up from there.
SPEAKER_03So are you are you doing like four by fours in the water?
SPEAKER_04No, no, no, no. I'm just uh just I cut I went and got two by sixes and two by fours, and the only reason why I got two by sixes is so I could have twenty foot long runners for my long runs. Oh shit. So they this thing would be only be like twenty feet by six feet wide. So like twenty-six twenty feet going down into the water and getting it up on dry, and then only six foot wide, you know, side by side. Gotcha. But uh but uh the two by sixes they had coming twenty footers, and then I should cut them down to two by twos, which is inch and a half by inch and a half. Yeah, you know. So yeah, and then I'm just building it out of two by twos. Kind of like what we did for the uh the booth, like the little framework on the wall and stuff like that that the wood's attached to. Okay. Just like two by two framework. Yeah, most of the time if you have like wire, like this is all that's all that's going on that two by two frames. Unless you're putting like metal on top or something like that, then you'd have to have like a two by the two frame.
SPEAKER_02No, it's just treated like burning it, staining it, sealing it, whatever. Yeah, what do we do?
SPEAKER_04No, it's pretty cool. It's pretty simple. I mean, unless you're gonna have like yeah, like a metal roof or something on the thing, you can get by with like two by two structure walls and stuff for stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02So see, we're not always apt to hunt. I mean, hell you're helping the birds that you like to hunt.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, it's just a pretty thing. Uh we're still looking up the rules and regulations of letting them out of the pen. But we used to have some ducks whenever I was a kid. We first moved down here. Dad had like a trio of pentails, trio of mylers, and trio of uh green wing tail. But we always kept them in the pen because if you let them out, they would fly away anyway, so they weren't accustomed to using a certain body of water because they were on dry ground. But we had ponds in those things. Oh twice a week, you had to clean them ponds out, and it would be like two inches of mud in the bottom of these plastic ponds. Oh, it was a plastic bottle. So they would take all the dirt or all their food and then go over there in the pond and sift through it, and it just all settled towards the bottom. And I mean two times a week we had to empty these ponds out and pick them up out of the hole and then pressure wash them out and yada yada. So I built this one where it'd go in the pond, so I ain't really gotta worry about that. Yeah, I mean it'll just go in. Yeah, yeah. So even if we can't let them out, it's just uh kind of a long-term thing, hopefully.
SPEAKER_02Mr. Colin, yes.
SPEAKER_03How was your weekend?
SPEAKER_02Fair. I mean, fair. Yeah, I mean, I didn't do much. I'm trying to think of what I did this weekend.
SPEAKER_03I I guess you watched some masters with your green on. Supporting that Irish, come on, Rory. Woo-hoo. I mean, I don't have a problem with Rory.
SPEAKER_04Uh no, you can't. Well, I mean, he he like deserved, I mean he won it.
SPEAKER_03So a lot of I I seen the same. Uh go ahead. I'm so sorry. I'm so bad at interrupting. No, no, finish their story. Yeah, I know. I'm so fucking bad at it. Asshole.
SPEAKER_02I know I didn't really do much. Uh PP came down this weekend, so I went out there Saturday. Yeah. That was about it. How's he doing? He's good. I mean he hasn't changed. Yeah. We fish a little bit Saturday afternoon. Uh well, the pond beh uh beside his house, um it's really grown up with just like shit in the bottom of it, and it really needs to be dug out and whatnot. So you you pr pr you can pretty much only fish it with a worm, like something weedless, yeah. And you still get hung up. Yeah. And I mean, hell he's caught like an 11-pound bass out of there before. But this has been years and years ago. And it's just they got grass carp in there. They put grass carp in there to control it. Yeah. Grass carp, they only eat up until a certain age, and then they're worthless. They're just there. So it's real boat fishing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So what do they eat after they get to a certain age?
SPEAKER_02It's like Well, I guess they still eat, but they don't eat as very much.
SPEAKER_04Uh not on the weeds. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because it's so over there at uh uh at De Rose, they got grass carp in there for that too. And like they're like, Well, they're not really doing much anymore. Yeah, I mean they're just kind of huge. They get huge, but they're not doing that.
SPEAKER_04Maybe I would think so. Or I don't know. Well, because like I mean, they're still a bottom aren't they like bottom feeder?
SPEAKER_03I would that are a top feeder, maybe? They're not a top feeder.
SPEAKER_04No, because the way they're in their mouth face towards the bottom. Like they would have to literally be which I mean I have seen them do that.
SPEAKER_03They kind of yeah, like think of a koi. Yeah. Koys are top feeder fish.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but they're not I mean, I don't think they're a top feeder fish.
SPEAKER_03So does a grass carp have an underbody or an overbody? An underbody or an overbody?
SPEAKER_04Like who or the back lip or the bottom lip, I guess you could say, is the one that moves the most.
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SPEAKER_03Well that's probably what they sound like.
SPEAKER_02But the pond's also silted in too, so like it needs to be dug out. And like he's just kind of waiting. He's like, I don't want to give up my fishing hole, but he's like, damn, this sucks because I used to catch good fish out of here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Now they're just not here anymore. I mean, you catch like little bitty half pounders and stuff. They're fun to catch. Yeah, it's fun. But and it's well, and like where it's just like right past. Is it down by his parents' house, kind of? No.
SPEAKER_03No?
SPEAKER_02No. Um it's down. I I can't necessarily share the location. Right. But it's I mean, it's peaceful out there.
SPEAKER_03I know I think I know where it's at. It's just peaceful out there. All right, you take a left right here. Like you pull out of his parents' driveway and you take a right and then a left. Kind of like a levee kinda.
SPEAKER_02No, but anyways. Um yeah, I mean, no, it's just I mean, it's just kind of peaceful out there. Just kind of sit and hang out. You got a nice view of the sunset whenever it's going down to.
SPEAKER_04So it's like how big is this pond?
SPEAKER_02Um, I mean, it's not very big. It's you think like an acre? It's probably double the size out of here at RT.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. So yeah, m maybe half. I don't know, like half an acre, probably. Yeah, double the size of that out there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Surely that's well yeah, I guess you're right.
SPEAKER_02Let me see if I can pull it up on the map so maybe you can see it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the pond in front of RT, you couldn't even barely fit a house on that thing. That's like a quarter of an acre, maybe.
SPEAKER_03You could fit my house on it. I I was gonna say this real quick, though. Speak when you were talking about dry, this was Todd Jacobian's post from five days ago. We're recording this on the 14th, so whatever date night this was. For the period November through March, was the driest on record for Arkansas in history. As long as it is. These months are considered our wet seasons, too. Records date back to 1895. And has been as driest. Driest on record 10.16 inches from November to March.
SPEAKER_04We're under the record for that?
SPEAKER_03No, we set a new record for the driest. But how far down are we from the original record? Now that I don't know. I'm sure you could look it up, but I just seen that.
SPEAKER_02I seen something a couple weeks ago that said that we're like twenty plus inches in three months to get out of the drought.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02So but that's the that's the pond.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's a pretty decent sized little pond. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dog logo up in the woods and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So it needs to be it needs to be it needs to be dug out and everything. It's still fun to go out there. Like I said, it's just kind of more of just go and sit and just kind of relax and watch the sunset. Romantic. Very nice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, very nice.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, I mean, it's like every time you cast out there, you're you're bringing back a lot of chattering.
SPEAKER_03Something with you. Yeah. I get that.
SPEAKER_02No matter what you use. Yeah. Try to use a chatterbait. Good luck.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Or not a chatterbait, uh, crankbait.
SPEAKER_03Good luck. Man, I l I I lost a I lost damn good Patrick that works here. He he uh he gave me an old tackle box of his that had some stuff in it, really nice stuff, like brand new stuff that he just don't really use anymore. And he was, he went, All right, Jackson. He pulled out this one little beetle spin with a minnow head on it. He was like, I have caught a lot of fish on this. And I was like, okay, you know, it's like that holy grill. Like, I mean, I'm not gonna call him a big brother because you know what I mean. But it's like when like somebody odor like gives something to you and you're just like, oh, kind of thing. I put it on, and Friday morning I got a pretty good bass, and then later that afternoon I threw that son of bitch right into the lily pads, and I did every damn thing I could to get it out and could not get it out. Well, they still print they still sell those prison boats. I know, but I mean it was the fact that he was I told him about it, he was like, oh, just go buy another one. No, man, that's not the point. Like, this is something you gave me, and you know, I caught a good bass with it, and then I fuck it all up, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02So, but you said that you did everything. You normally like to go swimming whenever we go out on our boating adventures.
SPEAKER_03He hasn't done that in a while. Yeah. Okay. No. And but dude, my allergies, I've okay, so I've never had allergies. Not really. Like I know everybody has them, but like not really. This past weekend, oh my gosh, Saturday, my eyes were almost swole shut.
SPEAKER_04I think that goes back to being how dry it is. Yeah. It's like during the growth of everything, is usually you get a little periodically rains that knocks down the pollen or this or that, or whatever it is, it's all the stuff that's growing. But yeah, this year, uh no.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because I was over at the rose and they just kept on asking me. They were like, Are you good? And I I finally, I I finally just had to tell Kathy, I was like, I I'm not. Like, I need something because like my eyes watered the entire day. No, it was Friday. It was Friday when my eyes were real real swollen up and like my eyes wouldn't quit watering. Like, it was like it was pretty bad.
SPEAKER_04I guarantee you, just as much as you can grow out of being allergic to something, because you know that that does happen. Yeah, you could probably grow into being allergic to something.
SPEAKER_03I mean, but that's the thing. I've never I've never really been that allergic to pollen and shit. I've always worked outside. Maybe it's because I don't work outside anymore. I don't know. Yeah, a little bit down. Maybe I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, I will say this mom, for I don't know, 25 years or whatever. You know, she was always outside, and she was a horse girl at one time, whatever.
SPEAKER_03She said all of a sudden one day it just hit me, and I was allergic to everything outside eat grass, I mean, it like horses, cats, it was so fucking miserable. Like, like, take take our buddy Derek Fletcher growing up, for example. Like, it spray as soon as springtime hit in school, he'd be missing days. And don't get me wrong, like this was like middle school, yeah. And like he'd come to school looking like death, like because his allergies were so bad. And I was always like, okay, like that's a little odd. Allergies, come on, man, really make man up, you know. Yeah. I mean, this is a middle school. I'm talking shit, obviously. Like, but I mean, like, now I'm just like, and I never had them really until this past weekend, and I was like, whole new respect for people who have fucking allergies. Like, look at your head. What's that shit? Like, it is awful, man. I've taken so much medicine, enough to knock down a baby calf. I promise. Like, especially throughout the weekend, I just took enough to like suppress everything because it was so bad.
SPEAKER_04You're gonna have to go get you one of them honey pots. Honey pot? Oh. You have the one that I was talking to Big P and uh Patrick about? The neti pot or whatever? Yeah, we're gonna be like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. Because my mine was so congested up close to my eyes, I was feeling cross-eyed non-stop. Like it was throwing me so off, like for five days straight. And I went back there and I was like, bro, I do not know what they're like, oh, go get one of these. I mean, in two days' time. Really? Didn't take no medicine, nothing, just clean it out. If you know it just felt weird awkward, it feels like you can't breathe for a second, and then all of a sudden it just starts running out.
SPEAKER_03Okay, is it kind of like sucking water up your nose when you're swimming underwater?
SPEAKER_04It's just gravity. Oh, okay. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it it means you're it's water going in one nostril and coming out the other. But it's also going up into these cavities underneath your eyes that's clearing everything out, tied into your sinuses.
SPEAKER_02You would not believe the junk that comes out.
SPEAKER_04Mine didn't really nothing came out. So but I think it just got up in there with that solution. Yeah. And I I want to do it, I want to do it again now. I did it for two days in a row, and really nothing was coming out, but I think it probably got up in there, broke some stuff out. Because now I'm having like coughing up some stuff.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you just did it recently? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04Oh, the other yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm with you.
SPEAKER_04I want to do it because I think it probably broke up with that solution, broke up everything that was in there, and kind of relieved me some.
SPEAKER_03Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_02I but I have like you can go watch videos of it. You wouldn't believe what comes out of your own.
SPEAKER_03So I've seen video I think I've seen videos on this.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's like it's just like a bunch of smot, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Just mucus. I mean, the human body is definitely like it's a fascinating thing, but it's also a gross thing at the same time when you think of all the stuff that's actually in you at once. Pause. But you know, I mean y'all know what I mean.
SPEAKER_04It's just like I mean, it's probably like a a safety, like obviously building up all that stuff in your nose is better than it going all your lungs. You're right. You're right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03You're talking about organic matter, that's are we talking about organic matter? I'll show you something organic stuff. Okay. Oh shit. This shit took a turn for the word. I didn't mean for it to, but I mean, you know.
SPEAKER_04Hey guys, uh, well, let's let's uh can we get the intro?
SPEAKER_02Oh hell.
SPEAKER_04Hey guys, uh well, we talk about a little bit of everything here lately since we've come back. We had a we had a long break. Uh we we we've been back on it for a while now, a few months now, actually. Uh, but go back and listen to all of our old episodes. You can listen free to all of our episodes on Spotify, iTunes, and right there on our BuzzSpout website page, you can listen to all of them absolutely free, and it's linked there in our bio. And uh we just we just like having fun with these. We uh we may sell apparel at some time. We've been thinking about that a little bit, and I think we have some ways of kind of figuring that out because uh I know a lot of y'all like the duck that's in the logo and he's swimming around in the pair and stuff. I do too. It'd be some pretty cool shirts. We were just outside talking to Emily and she's she was dealing with her sinuses. We're gonna try to we were gonna try to get her on tonight, but she's like, no, I'm not getting on there, sneezing and coughing into the microphone. But we might get her back on there because she made a duck call one time. Uh but anyways, uh, if you're new here, hit that like, subscribe button, anything to help us out, and share it with your friends and stuff like that. And uh we post these every Sunday so you can listen with us on Monday because we are those guys that drink beer on Monday, and we call ourselves Monday Beers. Not Monday. I would I would like to know t-shirt ideas from our our uh our listeners. Our listeners are our really uh loyal listeners that have been listening for a long time. I think y'all would probably actually have a lot of great uh t-shirt ideas because we have been talking about that. We don't t-shirts. I mean, sponsor sponsors might come at some point, but we really like speaking freely. Yeah, sometimes sponsors want to tell you what to do.
SPEAKER_03And not yeah, not all of them, but I'm gonna go ahead and tell y'all that right now, you know. I mean Colton would have a lot more work on his hands if he had to tune out or mute a lot of the stuff that I said. So I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah. But we are we we would uh because obviously this cost us a little bit of money to produce and stuff like that and to keep it going and stuff like that. But we enjoy doing it. Yeah, no, yeah. But we were thinking about doing some t-shirts and some hats. Obviously, hats just be logo or whatever else, but some good t-shirt ideas because I know we guys are a lot of really cool listeners, so they might have some really good ideas for a cool t-shirt. So yeah, absolutely. Send them send them on our way.
SPEAKER_03So um, so pretty cool news. You're pregnant? Whoa. Pause. I uh I didn't kill a turkey this year in Mississippi, but that's okay because uh uh Mr. Alex Rogers killed a turkey. Oh yeah, not in Mississippi. He didn't get in the Mississippi. Uh he wasn't able, he had to do the Mallards for Marion trap shoot uh this past weekend. He was wanting to go with me and Trey. Trey's not here this evening. Uh he had something come up, but um he was supposed to go with us and he wasn't able to make it. Anyway, long story short, he killed his first gobbler. Yeah, first turkey ever. 12-inch beard. That's a beautiful gobbler. Down in South Arkansas somewhere because it came in yesterday morning. No, yeah. And uh, like he's been to it it's been like five different states in four years, and he just now got him one. So big congrats to him for that one.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it was a beautiful turkey.
SPEAKER_04I seen it. Oh, yeah. Well, that's kind of cool for South Arkansas, too.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, and I seen him post it on a Snapchat. I was like, is he posting somebody else's? Because he's not sitting with it. I was like, is this his or no? Because like if it was mine, I'd be like sitting on top of it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, dude, I think he he sent me so many pictures. I think he just overwhelmed. Yeah, like uh earlier, earlier he sent a uh I think to me, Perry Forrest and him were all in a group message, and he he said uh he said, I was smiling so hard you couldn't you couldn't have smacked it off with a two by four. So I mean, big congrats to him on that. Uh it's been a long time 'cause every every hunting trip I've been on with him is like the main goal has been to get him a turkey kind of thing. 'Cause like needed to get him. Yeah, you know. And but so speaking about turkeys, if that's all right with y'all, but My weekend, uh, me and Trey left here about 2 30 Thursday, shot over there to Mississippi, stayed with the Rose again. Once again, thank y'all so much. Uh and uh we just kind of hung out for the night. Shut up. And they got us some wings, we ate some wings, and pretty much we all had like a beer or two and we went to bed. Like we didn't stay up late or nothing. And uh everybody had work that day. Everybody was tired. It was Thursday, still kind of like a weeknight. Anyways, uh Friday morning, me and Trey go hunting by ourselves, and you know, I have a hen step out, and I was like, we were facing opposite directions in a ground blind because I was like, man, I I know they've been kind of seeing them some over here, and I know that this is where me and Perry heard this one gobbling at really hard one morning. Like, I I know there's some in the I know they're all in that area, but I know that like for sure that there is definitely one or two. I know there's two gobblers in that area, but I knew one for a fact where he's been kind of at. And so I was like, let's set back to back. So we did in the ground blind, and he ends up, I see a hen coming out. This is like we got there a little late. That's my bad. I do like to sleep in, everybody. So Trey's gave me a lot of shit about that. So I know he's gonna listen to this too, possibly. So, anyways, a hen walks out and I just start, you know, like kind of tapping him like that, and he's like, turns around, he looks, and I go, Oh my god. Kind of like that too. I I think I got really excited, you know. And we see this other bird walk out behind her, never seen the front of him or nothing. It was a big bird. It was a big bird, but couldn't tell. Couldn't tell. And especially, you know, being invited somewhere and stuff, and not even having a shot for that matter. I think it was wise we didn't take the shot because they're still it their season doesn't go out till end of May. So I mean it stays in quite a while or into April, something some shit like that. Anyways, uh, but then Saturday, the longest hunt I've ever been on in my life. Me and Perry and Trey hunted from like 545 to 12. We got back to the house about 12, 1215. And that was like we were walking, so we just kind of like went out back behind their house and stuff and everything. But we had this son of a bitch on a string. And he loved Trey's calling with the call that Marty uh gave us. Uh Trey's is different, all three of ours are different. Trey's is an actual slate, I believe. Anyways, love Trey's calling. Probably called this turkey from at least half a mile away, I'd say. From the sounds of it. Shut up, Thomas. Looking at me like that. Anyways, Perry sees him run down the hill. Like, down into this bottom. We were kind of on top of a hill, and he the turkey ran down to the bottom, and Perry was like, he's got a rope, like it's dragging the ground. And he was like, Alright, y'all get ready. And I mean, we me and Trey are already sat like this. Like, he didn't have to tell us to get ready. We're already like posted up. And then we hear I was like, gosh damn it. Down in that bottom, there was three deer. And those three deer started messing with that turkey or something. I don't know. I couldn't see down into the bottom or anything, and turkey runs off. We were like, all right, yeah, we didn't know he ran off just yet, but like we we we're just gonna set still and everything, you know, try to deer hunt it a little bit, see what happens. Because he was he was hot and heavy, he was coming. Perry said he could see him blown up, but he was like 100 yards, 150 yards. And next thing I know, I was like, I just see something moving, and I'm like, all right, get get ready, Trey, get ready. And Trey already knew it was deer. I didn't, I was so pumped up. I mean, like, we're about to have a turkey come out right here. I was like, I'm I'm pumped, you know. Here comes a deer, here comes deer, yeah, yeah, whatever. And this bitch, I didn't know that my face mask was inside out. So it's just straight white showing. So thank God, I guess it was just a deer. But she just, I was like, guys, why why the hell? After we finally had to, we finally just got up, you know, after about 25 or 30 minutes, because like she was just stomping and blowing. She'd walk around, stomp, blow, stomp, blow, looking right at me. And I finally got up and I was we were sitting there talking and shit. And I was like, what? And P-Row goes, how the hell do you see out of that? And I was like, what do you mean? It's just mesh. He goes, Well, it's white. And I go, fuck me, man. Had it on inside out.
SPEAKER_02How do you not notice that before you put it on?
SPEAKER_03Dude, when you when you're up that early walking and you're just trying to still get shit on, walking, I mean, it shit happens.
SPEAKER_04He's like that little kid, you know, just half asleep, puts his shoes on the wrong feet. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. I did do that once this weekend and I corrected myself. But anyways, I damn up. So we got we got him to strike back up, and we were like, okay. And we basically went to the same spot where A Rodd and Trey had seen him on the first trip where he just barely poked his head over the ditch bank. We had the same freaking problem again. Perry like actually said he could have taken a shot, but he wanted us to kill since we were good. And I was like, dude, take the I was like, I wish you would have taken the shot, but he didn't really have his gun with him. Like it was laying off probably 10 yards from him, and he was just trying to like, he was just standing still, just looking right at this bird for like 30 minutes. And like he was I was just like, what's going on? This bird may be 40 yards from us, but it was on the other side of a ditch bank, kind of downish. So there was no way me and Trey would have been able to see him like at all. And the bad thing is, is like, I mean, I'm talking about making noise too, because at one point I had a lizard attack me. Guys, and I'm telling y'all, I've never seen my life flash before my eyes so fast. This damn thing, this damn No, it was about probably about like those green tree frogs. So well, by the time I seen him, he was already at my crotch, and I thought it was a fucking snake. So, I mean, I'm I didn't yell or nothing. Lizard that big? No, no. I mean, it was a pretty good sized lizard. I'm about like that. And I just seen him running full force to my damn groin. And I thought it was a snake, you know. I mean, I'm already half delusional. It's it's getting warm. We've been sitting out here at least four or so hours already. And I just ah, roll over and shit. And Trey's like, what the fuck? Perry's over here, like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And I'm like, I'm like, shit, I'm all good. I'm all good, you know, like my shit's intact. And then we're we're all standing up talking, like we've all picked up chairs and stuff. We're sitting there talking. Perry goes, What y'all want to do? I mean, it's like 10 now. And as soon as he says that, pow, some bitch fires off from like 65 yards. We were like, I guess we're gonna sit back down. I mean, so we did. And he got back closer and closer, and every time like he'd shut up for like an hour, we'd all be like, All right, you know, I mean, what are we gonna do? Stand up, do the same thing again, pow, fire off again, like 40, 50 yards away. We're like, all right. And there was no right way to really like creep up on him because the the leaves down, like you would have really just screwed it up, and there wasn't no way to get it was it was it was a weird situation that like it was an old bird, so I mean he didn't get that big from being dumb kind of thing. So I mean it it it needless to say, it was a extremely, extremely fun time. Forrest and his friend went up to Tennessee Friday night for the Saturday morning opener, both killed a turkey. I mean, so by the time they got back Saturday, we were literally just basically getting back from our hunt. And so we'll at least we got to celebrate with them kind of thing. Which I had a great time. I mean, that uh you know, getting to have one do that, and I think Trey's hooked now too, just from calling and having them gop tri double, triple gobble.
SPEAKER_02I'll tell you what you did wrong. What did I do wrong? No, you didn't stay standing up. Oh shit, no shit. That's what it sounds like.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's a good point. I never thought of it like that.
SPEAKER_02Post up against a tree, it sounds like.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And Trey had something funny happen to him too on Sunday. I'll let him tell that whenever he comes back. But kind of the same thing that I had with the lizard, but a different animal. So, you know, I'll let him tell that story for whenever he gets back.
SPEAKER_02Was it a reptile or was it an actual animal?
SPEAKER_03It was a mammal. It was a mammal. So I mean, uh, I'll say that, but you know, but I will say uh Saturday, yeah, Saturday morning when those three were hunting together. That was uh I've never seen the woods that alive. Like between the deer, the turkey, the birds, I mean like it was like everything and God's creation was really in sync, and I think that's what made the hunt like super, super enjoyable because I was with people, you know, obviously care about and everything, and like good friends and stuff, you know, like it was a surreal moment to be out there in the nature at that time. I I don't know. I really enjoyed it. Even though we didn't get to fire a shot, that's fine. I mean, that's part of hunting, that's just what hunting is, but it's it it was it was really something special, just how lively the woods were in general. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think you there is there's definitely uh days like that where you just you walk off with them no matter what you're hunting, and it's just like you feel like you can't not run into wildlife. Yeah, like it's just everywhere. And you're like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, y'all just dumb today or what?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it it it it was pretty it it was it was pretty fun. But uh actually me and Trey, we went down on Friday. Well, Perry still had to work uh Friday evening, I think. Yeah, I think possibly, yeah. He had to work Friday evening. And uh so me and Trey were like, all right, we're gonna let you get some sleep balls, some I mean, we we ran down to Tupelo to go check out. There's a little uh store there called Hunter's Haven. I mean, it's it's a little video game store, it's nothing big or nothing, but it was a neat little place to go to, and I ain't never been to Tupelo before. So we stopped in there, you know, we looked around. We met Jason uh Howell that uh hunts with tray all the time and stuff. Uh he was there, so hung out with him for a few minutes, and he took us to this spot called the Neon Pig. Is it barbecue? Yeah, uh they got everything there. Uh it's mainly burgers, but like they do like their own, like they cut your own meat, like everything. So like it's like a butcher shop, too, is what I'm trying to get at. Yeah. But it it was a really cool place to go and eat. It was really good food. And then we went down to Ponetop on our way back and bought us some menace and uh went fishing. That night? Uh no, we got back like afternoon sometime. We probably got back at about 2 33. I mean, we didn't get back super late or nothing. Like I don't know. It was in the afternoon, which I'm personally not a big afternoon hunter in general. Or I especially turkey hunting, I'm not. No, a lot of people say you kill them in the afternoon. That's probably why I haven't yet, but I mean Yeah, because that one that that hunt that that one hunt that I went on, that's when we killed it, was in the afternoon.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I'm I just Yeah, because all those pictures and stuff, it was a sunset, we were taking pictures and everything. Yeah, it was the coolest fucking thing ever. There was this big ridge in the sun, it was like on a ranch in Oklahoma. Oklahoma, that's where it was at. Just I mean like almost Texas Oklahoma line. Like literally, like maybe five, ten miles up into Oklahoma. And uh there was the sun was setting on this ridge, and the guy that I was with that killed it, he was walking up the ridge in front of me, and I was like, ho, stop. Like it was just perfect, like silhouette. I was like, we set up the camera, we did all kinds of high-fiving photos and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it was like wait, is that Rios or Easterns there?
SPEAKER_04Uh no, Easterns, I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't know how that would run right there. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I'd have to look back at the pictures later.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure there's both there, probably. Because I mean, I'm sure they run a little bit because there's a lot of mainly Texas is Rios, and then like but yeah, but that's a totally different Texas is so big you can get in different areas.
SPEAKER_04That's true, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, like more desert, were you? No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04No, that's probably eastern. Ranch ground like pine trees. Oh, that's probably eastern. There was even some bottoms and stuff, the creeks and oh yeah, that's probably eastern, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy. That's like you even excuse me, going up there to stall, he's got easterns up at his house. Yeah, I mean, which is up in Michigan, which is crazy to me. You don't know. Hey, bud. Is that is that probably the most popular turkey? Eastern. An eastern? Uh it's the most common. Yeah. Just because they're the they're in more places. Yeah, I'll take another police. Yeah, Eastern is primarily across, not the entire United States, but most of the United States.
SPEAKER_04So you have so they're more populated than correct.
SPEAKER_03Like you have like uh the Osceolas down in Florida, and then you have the Easterns, like pretty much a lot of the U.S. Then you have Rios mainly in like Texas, New Mexico, New Mexico area. Uh let me actually there's a map on that. I'm I'm gonna look that up so I'm not you know. What does California have? Or do they have uh they do? Uh let's see, Turkey.
SPEAKER_04Uh Turkey, what what kind of because I know there's there's places in California that's actually exactly like here as far as the geographic goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it'd be clear.
SPEAKER_03Let's see. Oh no, so they have they have Rios and Miriams in California. So Miriam's the ones with like the white tips on them, kind of look like a white boy back in the early 2000s with frosted tips. Yeah. Yeah. That shit hey, shit pretty good goes hard on a fan, though, you know. And then like, yeah, so spinning up in the Texas, uh Kansas, and Oklahoma is like Rios. Got some you got a lot of Easterns in there too. And then the uh it's called a hybrid wild turkey. I don't know. And then, yeah, where's the Goulds? Yeah, the Goulds. That's another one. Uh it kind of looks like a hybrid, honestly. Um they're kind of down towards New Mexico, into Mexico, basically.
SPEAKER_04So they're more of a Mexican.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, kinda. But the osceolas, you just mainly see those over in uh Florida.
SPEAKER_04They're pretty refined to that area. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much all the area they're in. That's probably the smallest population, you think? Of turkeys species in America.
SPEAKER_03I would probably say either that.
SPEAKER_04Or they're just really dense forest.
SPEAKER_03That or they're just really dens in one area. Because you know, I you hear a lot of people every year they go out and kill one in Florida. So maybe they're just populated there.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. Just kind of like here in Arkansas.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I mean it's you know, which they say the easiest bird to kill is a Rio. Really? Which is going like over to Texas and just killing her. Everybody says that. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I whenever whenever I was a little kid, I used to go over there with my dad some, and every year we go, he'd kill two. I mean, it's just one of those deals. So I mean, I guess they're actually pretty they they are pretty easy. Yeah, they're pretty populated. And I mean, like, they're one of those birds like you call at them and they're just going pow and come right to you, kind of thing. It's what I haven't hunted them since I was a kid, so I can't really speak on it technically, but I mean I'd love to go over there at some point and go try to shoot one for myself, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_04So I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I I'd really like to do the Grand Slam, but dude, that's a there's a lot of money that goes into that for the people who actually do it. I mean, because you gotta travel basically across the whole US to kill all four species. Like two or three months, basically.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And you have to pull it off in that amount of time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like uh whatchamacallit, Michael Waddell. Uh they did it in uh on his YouTube channel, they did it in one day. He had the Jack Lynx, the owner of Jack Lynx on or whatever, and they literally uh took his jet, they started in Florida, they went to Florida, killed the Osceola, then they went somewhere else, killed something else.
SPEAKER_04In one day.
SPEAKER_03In one day. It was like 14 hours. I swear.
SPEAKER_04Well, I guess you could then you could jump time zone. Exactly. If you start over on the east coast, then you jump time zone coming this way. Yeah. So you gain two hours if you went all the way across. But flight time and everything still, I just don't I don't see that being possible.
SPEAKER_03Like sitting down and killing the bird, like I mean, they killed the first one fairly quickly. I mean, I I'm sure a lot of people who like to turkey hunt and watch videos on it have probably seen the same video I'm talking about. I think it came out last year. But uh yeah, they they did that in like less than a day.
SPEAKER_04So how many so that would be four birds. Four birds.
SPEAKER_03Four birds, yeah. So you you you get to figure all species. Well, they didn't do a gold, but I mean, you just did I I don't know. The North America Grand Slam. Which I don't think a lot of people include the gould into the uh probably because it's the Grand Slam.
SPEAKER_04Probably because it's Mexican Mexico resident type bird. Mainly, yeah. Well not resident, but you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_03I think that's why a lot of people don't include that into the North American Grand or not the North American, but the continental United States Grand Slim. So you got Osceola, Rio, Eastern, and Miriam. So yeah. Personally, I think Miriam's the prettiest, just because the white tips, like it's so pretty. So, so pretty.
SPEAKER_04They got frosted tips? Yes, they do. Frosted tips. Yeah, he was saying that when we were gone. Oh, but I don't know. I mean that well, the Rio just looks so wild. I'm like, you're shooting somebody's pit. Like that's that's a peacock.
SPEAKER_03Like, no, you're thinking of the Aussie, the oscillated oscillated. That's the ones really down in Mexico. Oh, yeah. Or like South America, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Osceola's in Florida. Or like yeah, the osseolas if I'm thinking about yeah, I'm thinking about the Florida one. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I guess oscillating is the one I'm gonna do.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, guys, I am not a turkey hunter.
SPEAKER_02Me neither. I just see pictures.
SPEAKER_03I'm telling, I'm telling y'all guys, if y'all ever get into it, y'all will be like addicted. I mean, it's a literal drug. That's the reason why.
SPEAKER_04Hearing one gobble in person is I'm just like, I don't know. I mean, I know I would be addicted, and but my wife already is like duck season's enough. Yeah, like the six months I know it's only three months for most people for duck season, but me, it's a six-month endeavor that I am gone for 14 hours a day trying to either get ready, hunt, or end everything and put away everything. So she's like, No, it's our time now, the other six months of the year.
SPEAKER_03Like I I have a friend, he does like waterfowl guiding, and then as soon as waterfowl guiding is done with, he goes straight into turkey guiden. Like, I mean, that's pretty cool, but like, damn, man, like it's gotta be pretty tiring, you know. I mean, whether you love your job or not, job is good, it gets tiring after a little while.
SPEAKER_04Which I I love guiding to the point that I say if the crappie fishing was good as it used to be on the bio there, I would sell crappie fishing at the lodge. And I would run it I would that's what I would do year round, is just run people through the lodge. Yeah. I'd have a couple months' break, you know, once crappie spawn started and stuff like that. But the crappie fish just ain't been that good on that bio anymore. I mean, man, I remember when my grandfather was alive, we would go out there and catch 30, 40 slabs of crappie just pulling them out. I mean big old slabs of crappie, you know. I don't know why it's not I I think it's a lot of the rock dams have broken down, so I think the water's getting lower than what it used to. Yeah. And I think that's really hurting them. You know, it gets so hot during summer on a low water stage and it pulls the oxygen out.
SPEAKER_03It kind of goes back to us having fucking the drought we're in too.
SPEAKER_04I mean, you know Which is at a decent stage right now. As long as it stays right up there closest to the buck brush elevation, it has enough water to still be stay pretty oxygenated and everything. But and it gets lower than that and you start seeing bank Yeah, inside of the buck brush, that's there's not much water left. Yeah. That's that's true.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. It's uh it's been fun lately. Yeah. Yeah, I get this weekend off. That's what I I keep on saying. I'm getting this weekend off. Because you know, I mean, Arkansas turkey season comes in next Monday. So tomorrow for everybody listening to us, it'll be in in Arkansas, so I'll be gone again.
SPEAKER_04Well, on the day of it. Well, most people live on listen on Monday.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, so yeah, if you listen on my on that next Monday, yeah, it'll it will be opening up that day. For the northern for uh what's that zone one?
SPEAKER_04So turkeys here have a z is on a the zone like the deer are? Yep, yeah, yep.
SPEAKER_03Like Arkansas County uh opened yesterday too. Yeah. Yeah, but see like Prairie County where Trey lives, it doesn't open until it only stays open like seven or eight days.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, see like deer zones and stuff, it dri uh it drives me nuts. I don't get it. I mean, I I get it if you're on this side of that zone and then you're on you know the closest side on the other zone. But whenever you're like right next to each other, it does it doesn't make any sense then. But yeah, I don't get it either.
SPEAKER_03Because isn't isn't Arkansas County and Prairie County like the two biggest counties, other than Washington in the state? I think so.
SPEAKER_04Arkansas's the biggest county, but also our zones are bigger than some other places, I feel like.
SPEAKER_02Zones are like multiple counties.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, zones.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, of course. But that's what I'm saying. Like, how is Arkansas County and Prairie County not the same zone? I mean, they're literally butt up next to each other. It's just how they split them like the zone three this year for turkeys or whatever, I I'm sure it's been years before. I just ain't ever looked, but it's basically the outline of the Mississippi River on the edge of Arkansas. It came in like April 6th or some shit. I don't know how they do that. See, I don't I don't get that, man. See maybe it's because Mississippi comes in earlier? I I I don't know. I I don't we're not that far from it. No, we're not. I mean an hour drive. It's closer for me to drive over to the roads than it is for me to go up to my camp.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Which is crazy. What's crazy is is our zones have changed since 2021, 2022 hunting season for deer. I'm looking at deer zoning. But the zone one, which we no, we wouldn't have been in that. We would have been in zone six. It went all the way over to the Mississippi River and had a little bit of a cutout of it. But then in twenty five, twenty-six deer season, we were zone nine and it doesn't even well, it goes down to like where the White River dumps into the Mississippi River. But before it was straight.
SPEAKER_03See, how do they determine that? Do biologists determine that stuff? I mean, or does the AGFC just come in and determine that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I ain't got a clue. Don't give me a line because I have no idea.
SPEAKER_04That's I mean, I know it always cuts off right there by our houses and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Because like I'm in a separate zone than my at my house. Yeah. I'm in a different zone than you as far as deer go. From my house to your house, and we're not even as a crow flies five miles away, really, maybe a little bit farther than that.
SPEAKER_04And those deer cross that line constantly. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02Like I don't get it. It's beats the shit out of me. But but isn't I mean there's no I don't guess there's a zone for waterfowl. No. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04They in some state like uh Missouri. Yeah, Missouri has zones. It's like a northern zone and a southern zone. There might be a third one. I don't know. But yeah, they have different dates for Missouri. Yeah. On season dates. But Arkansas, they tried to do it on South Arkansas. They wanted South Arkansas, they wanted even further south than us. Yeah, like wanted their own zone to have different dates that push later and stuff, but I don't think they never did it. Arkansas is all one.
SPEAKER_03What do they want to do? Be a part of Luciana, I guess. I mean I guess they want to settle that because of the thing.
SPEAKER_04I'm joking, joking everybody and well, I mean, in in reality, I guess you you would be I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe not. I I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put my two cents on that. But I mean I can see why they're saying that, because they think oh, they show up here later, so we don't want to start until later. Different side of the table gets you all discombobulated. Also, I don't agree anybody should be able to hunt until February because all the ducks are paired up and then you're just ruining your next year's success. So is that when ducks pair up? Oh well. By the end of January, they're all paired up. Think about it. No, I I I'm genuinely asking. I really don't know. Because I mean, look at our ducks. You know, people are like Oh, they don't leave until Oh, there's ducks everywhere in February. The reason why there's ducks everywhere in February is because everybody started dropping their water, and then you see one body of water, yeah, there's ducks all over it. That doesn't mean there's a whole bunch of ducks here. Right. Yeah. But they're already they're already going back right now for us the past three seasons. I can guarantee you, majority of our birds have been trying to push north the last week of January. Yeah. So that that is a key to them. If they ain't paired up, they ought to be paired up and because they're going back to their nesting ground. They're trying to work their way back to their nesting ground.
SPEAKER_03They're trying to find an old lady to go home with. Yeah. That's a long ride, man. She must be a good one.
SPEAKER_02I mean, shit, fire. But I think I'm trying to think. I don't know if Tennessee's duck season is a week before or a week after. It's one of the two.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, see, what I think what's messed up though, the present day the way winter's going. But I don't know, it's hard for them to judge. Because I mean it's been kind of short-lived that winters have been mild, but Missouri closing like early January for the most of it. There's no pressure up there at that point.
SPEAKER_03I've said this shit for the past three years.
SPEAKER_04I just I think that would actually be good to hear if you were really thinking about solving any problems about actually making ducks migrate, don't give them a free place to sit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, everybody needs to get on the same page kind of thing. Yeah. All the way up, all the way down.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it's good for our population of ducks, but you're also for year we're on like year three or four now, that major uh a vast population of ducks are just imprinted, only going as far as Missouri.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Except for that one week that it freezes up too hard. But even then, I think there's still ducks staying up there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but well, here's the thing. The reason I agree with you on that statement right there, that last part, is because I mean, if they if there's enough there to keep a hole open and season isn't open, and there's plenty of food, why the fuck would you leave?
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, they'll dry feed.
SPEAKER_03Which I'm sure there is some that do, but I mean I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_04But you also have other states farther north that they're saying that they're holding ducks in January. And they probably are Washington and stuff like that. They're saying that they're like, oh, or the Dakotas, even in the early weeks of January. They're like, oh yeah, we still got ducks here. So is the And you're like, what? Okay, you are below freezing, but they haven't had the snowfall. You have to you cannot just have below freezing. You have to have at least six inches of snowfall to cover up the food. So then they're like, fuck, we can't dry feed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Now we could find some open water because of flowing streams or rivers or somebody keeping stuff open, yada yada yada. There's there's a lot of diverse diversity there in finding open water. But if they can find food, that's all they need, is just water and food. Water and food.
SPEAKER_03They'll move back and forth. Okay, so I quick question here. I'm sure we've talked about it before. I don't remember though, but so uh we know ducks or waterfowl in general dry feed, obviously. Why don't they do it that much down here? Because they have too many water opportunities. All right. Let's put it this way. If everybody just did away with like the water opportunities down here as far as like flooding up their fields and everything, would they just all stay on the rivers and st and the pond and lakes and stuff, or would they actually start with tilts?
SPEAKER_04There's already a a portion of ducks that do that already. They roost on reservoirs or they roost on the river and then they come out. But they're coming to very shallow water to feed. So, yes, if you took away that very shallow water, they would have they would have I don't know, because that's what I think that they love about Arkansas is the vast they love to feed in water because it makes it very easy for them to sift through their food. So I think that's the reason why they truly love coming to Arkansas because there's so much water that they can feed in water, but also roost on water. They want to be on water 100% of the time. Yeah. Like they really do. But in places like Oklahoma or other places where they just got little farm ponds, yeah, but no like vast flooded fields, they have to go dry feed, but they can only do it for a few hours, and all of a sudden they go get all this stuff in their crawl, and then they gotta go back to water to digest all that stuff. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right. Well, I'm so I really think they're not. I thought that you say it like that, I kind of understand.
SPEAKER_04That's the reason why Arkansas, for years and years and years, because of the bottoms and everything else, and the even before man touched it, there was still wetlands and stuff down here as far as like open fields that had duck food in it, wild duck food. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's literally the first stopping point of all of that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Wheel are?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, Missouri may have had a little bit of it, like the South Missouri and south of the city. Yeah, southeast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Southeast Missouri. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Because I mean the Delta does go up in there and touch all the way up the Mississippi River. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true.
SPEAKER_02But Arkansas, I mean, it's like one of the true deltas.
SPEAKER_04You know, you look at you look at the delta, as soon as it gets to Arkansas, it just goes. Yeah. It just gets wide as shit. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll have to Google this. I just I gotta I I'm a visual learner, everybody. I'm sorry. Talking about Googling geography? Yes. Like Delta geography, Delta. It's so funny, like Delta flyway, is that what it would be?
SPEAKER_04Or the just the Delta weather. Just look up the Delta like I don't know, uh region. What is the Delta region? Yeah, and you'll see a map of it, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_02Because you know, you know, Mississippi's always, you know, it's the Mississippi Delta. Well, Arkansas's got a lot of that too.
SPEAKER_04We we accompass way more than Mississippi does. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It it rises pretty quick on their side in relation to our side. Yes.
SPEAKER_02But I've heard a lot of people, well, like okay, I guess Stuttgart would I guess be considered it's kind of the prairie, so to speak. But it's also the delta as well. It's all delta ground.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but we're also like centrally located in the largest section, like the largest like if you drew a circle around any city, we're pretty centrally located in anything.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I agree. What are you looking at over here? A map. Can you read it?
SPEAKER_03There's no keys. See, I do know what a map is. No, that's what that's what it's showing me. That's yeah. That's what it's showing like the Mississippi Delta is. That's that's can't be right. Is it right? Because that's got fucking Alabama and shit in it, too. Which might be right, but I don't know. I don't know. Well, I mean, once you get over towards like all right, that's showing Mississippi Delta. Let's let's see the fucking actual the delta of Arkansas. Delta, Arkansas. Yeah, see, here it is right here. There's Memphis right up there. Yeah, I literally just looked at this one, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Way more on our side than it is.
SPEAKER_03Is it really though? I mean, a lot of this is like yeah, like, yeah, this is it it's not.
SPEAKER_04Oh, what is this?
SPEAKER_03That that's the Mississippi Delta. Oh, okay. I see what's what I think.
SPEAKER_04Maybe we're not looking at the maybe we're not phrasing it right. Phrasing it right, yeah. Maybe it's just the the delta in general. Because we're if you say Mississippi Delta, then it's the Mississippi side of the.
SPEAKER_03If you look it up on this map here, it shows you it's basically the whole right side of our state.
SPEAKER_02And if you look at that whole right side of the state, it's nothing but farm ground.
SPEAKER_04Which I will say it is. Actually, looking at this map, I have to retract my statement that Mississippi, Mississippi does have a lot of delta. They do, yeah, they do. They do. A lot. I have to retract a lot of Mississippi.
SPEAKER_03There's a better that's the Arkansas ducks.
SPEAKER_04So why is Arkansas more attractive to the ducks than Mississippi? Because they grow even if they have more delta ground than uh. Because I mean, looking at this map, I'm like, oh, they actually do have more delta ground than we're gonna be.
SPEAKER_02We grow more rice. That's true.
SPEAKER_04It's not just that's not just just it's not just low-lying ground.
SPEAKER_03We're actually growing stuff on our but I let I let Thomas have that answer since he actually graduated for that answer. So you know, no.
SPEAKER_02I mean, they just I mean it's a lot of cotton ground over there. Yeah. A lot of cotton is I mean, just that's one of their main things over there. It's a lot of sandy ground. Yeah. I'm trying to hold it's it was. I mean, I guess maybe just that side of the river, just because if you get over towards like Holly Grove and stuff like that, like you've got mixtures of sand and like gumbo. So it's like one or the other. Because they I mean, dad used to farm cotton over in Holly Grove for years and years, and now it's finally starting to come back on the actual Delta side because Holly Grove's like Holly Grove to the Mississippi borderline is like 30, 45 minutes, so it's like in that basin and then you know it fizzles out to where it's more, I guess, silty, roam ground, like what we've got up here. Yeah, people call it cupcake dirt up here.
SPEAKER_04But also, we could be that we're at the appropriate elevation because you think about like our green tree. Yes, but you look at their version of timber hunting, yeah, it's more like cypress trees and like tubulow brakes and stuff like that. Yeah. But we're at the right elevation, probably that it drains off. Probably. And that's the reason why we have still green trees. Yeah. Actual, you know, oaks and shit like that.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I mean, in the I don't know on the Mississippi side, but on over here, like you've got the refuge, you've got biomeda, you've got a lot of flooded woods that are around uh I don't know if they have that over there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. No, I I think it's more of like tupelo breaks and cypress trees and just I mean like kind of a slug. It holds water pretty much year-round, yeah. More type of thing.
SPEAKER_02Well, and like I've heard stories of people telling me over in Tennessee of like y'all think that it's pressured over here, like in Arkansas? He's like, go over there. He's just stupid.
SPEAKER_04Real foot, real foot. Well, so like but they don't have as much wetland habitat as we do. No, they don't. So it obviously, if you took even just half of our population that comes to Arkansas and threw them up there, obviously it's gonna be more pressure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, like they I mean they farm over there, you know. Like I know a lot of people that farm over there and around the area. But it's like, you know, down here, there's big sections of like, hey, this farm has 2,000 acres that only one person can hunt. And then like it's how I've been explaining like how it's been explained to me is like it's broken up over there, so it's like in a 2,000 acre block, there's like 40 people trying to hunt it. And it's just like you can't do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's like, you know, a certain amount of acres are dedicated to this person or this, that, and the other. And like over there, he's like, it's nuts. Yeah, yeah. It's stupid.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's like, it's like not even enjoyable. Yeah. Like I I like doing it. He's like, that's why we come over here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So uh which I mean in in in reality, I really think for our true ducks that are on our flyway, I mean, our only competition, which I hate to say competition because I mean it's just ducks surviving. Yeah. And for on for the next year, but it's Missouri. Because it's just the mild winters that we've had. And they've always I and they're like, oh, they're doing more, they're doing more. And I'm like, no, they've been doing that shit for years. It's just now they finally have mild enough winters that the ducks don't feel like they have to be forced to come down here. Yeah. And then all of a sudden there's their season goes out whenever most of the ducks are there, and they're just like, oh man, this is like free heyday here for fucking a month almost, you know, like three weeks solid that we just get to see here until it starts warming back up. You know, I agree.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I mean, but yes, that is I mean, to my that's the only thing that I can factor into it is like they plant a lot more cotton over there. You know, it's uh I mean from Jonesboro to here, I mean it's all rice. Damn near.
SPEAKER_04Rice, soybeans.
SPEAKER_02Now I don't know about this year because the prices suck ass.
SPEAKER_03But well, I don't think there's like there's still a lot of people still planting beans this year.
SPEAKER_04Rice.
SPEAKER_03Oh, rice, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, I which I know from the my farmers. Well, I don't know, it's kind of fifty-fifty. Like one farmer, he's like, we're only doing 500 acres of rice. I've got a bunch where they're usually like a thousand acres, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I got a buddy that lives um up in southeast Missouri, and you know, prices are still just as bad up there as they are down here. He's like a bunch of the farmers sent all that shit back and planting corner soybeans just because it's so bad. Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So is the is the price better on those crops or is it just take less input?
SPEAKER_02I really I haven't looked that far into it. I really don't know. Like I I just hear what has has been told to me. It's just like the prices just suck. Like I guess like the buying price.
SPEAKER_04I feel like it it probably takes a lot of money to grow rice.
SPEAKER_02The watering. Um you have farmers that since the last week of March trying to figure out are we gonna get a rain or do we have to flush rice? You gotta run water all across the room.
SPEAKER_04And if you don't get any rain cost, you may have to you may have to do it two or three times before it gets tall enough to actually hold water, right?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yeah. And it's just, I mean well, I mean, it's just I mean it's the same way with corner beans. I mean, I was just talking to Bullock the other day. He's like we've got, you know, a lot of our corn planted, and he's like, now it's like we're pulling beds for beans, and there's no moisture in the ground. So you can't plant.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because uh beds probably won't even hold up to it either if you start running water down. Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if they can't hold up or whatever, but you can't put a I mean, if you put it in the ground, it's just gonna sit there.
SPEAKER_04Until it got some moisture, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So I mean it's it's a fucked up situation all across the board for farming right now.
SPEAKER_03It is.
SPEAKER_02You can't a farmer cannot be thinking, is it going to rain at the end of March? Normally it's you know, they're trying to holy shit, when is it gonna stop raining? So I can put it in the ground.
SPEAKER_04And then they're worried about it flooding out before it gets tall enough.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So I I don't know. It's it's a screw to ass up ordeal around here right now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's definitely the opposite of what they've had for the past five, maybe even seven years this time of year.
SPEAKER_02Maybe, hopefully, I don't know. Maybe if they can get it up, maybe it'll be a wet summer and you know, the to where they don't have to, you know.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if the rain, if it keeps on coming, if it we keep on saying it's about to come, it's about to come. If it if they get it, they spend a little bit of money just to get it up and water it, and then all of a sudden you get an inch of rain or two inches of rain once a week. Oh, they won't have to water even rice fields, it'll stay flooded. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well w all summer. I was just like, I I was joking with Zach the other day. I was like, it's about time for you to start laying out polypipe, isn't it? He's like, I don't know what the fuck's going on.
SPEAKER_03So Yeah, he just sent me a Snapchat a second ago. He was like, it has started, it was flooding the fields. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean Yeah. Flushing rice. Yep. And that's I mean, that's horrible. I mean, you you typically can normally catch a rain or two to where you don't have to do that.
SPEAKER_03And that's a thing a lot of people don't understand. Like people don't just turn on that water because it's free. That water costs money.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it does.
SPEAKER_03Every time you turn on that, it costs something.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Remember, we kicked on the well, electric well.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I can't imagine.
SPEAKER_04For duck season? For that that week that we were hunting. Electric well. Yeah. I mean, it was costing us$300 a day. A day? Yeah. And but I mean, hey, we had a place to go with customers.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, but fuck$300 a day. Yeah, yeah. That's what it was costing us. I was thinking I was I I'll be I I'll I'll shoot you straight, Colton. I was thinking half of that. No, it's no I really wasn't. Which is a big well.
SPEAKER_04It's a pretty like that big that uh big field on the right when you're going towards the last one that was. Yeah, where y'all been hunting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that one's a pretty big one, yeah. It was it was cool. Costing us, which dad may elaborate just a little bit. It may not have been exactly$300. It may have been$200,$250. It's just not cheap though, regardless. It was costing us two to three hundred dollars a battery.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so it's basically like imagining every time you turn on the water in your house to take a shower or wash dishes or something, it costs you something. It might not cost much right then, but it does cost something.
SPEAKER_04Well you imagine that being every time you turn on it, it's a 10-inch fucking pipe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. It's got a flood of let's just say 150 acre field. I mean, good God. You know, I mean, shit ain't cheap.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_03It's uh we we pray for our farmers for sure during this time of year. I mean, it's definitely not an easy time of year. I know it's a stressful one for sure. I mean, I grew up in a family of farmhands, farmers, you know. I mean, it's a stressful time of year on everybody, so praise to all the all our farmers out there this time of year. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's you know, I think we've talked about this a couple years ago. You know, if you can't get your crop up, what what do the ducks have to come down here? I know we've talked about how you know the machine doesn't put out as much in the back as it does, you know. But damn if you can't even grow it, you know. It's tough.
SPEAKER_04I mean it's gonna come up. You're basically just a rest area at that point. Yeah. I mean I had a lot of that this year where they didn't plan it, and then the farmer decided he wanted to come in and disc it a month before duck season. And I was like, Alright. So but we still killed ducks on all those fields. Yeah. It's just it was a more of a rest area. That was where they were just coming to loaf. So we had to hunt it totally different than what we normally would have, you know.
SPEAKER_02I mean, if you don't have any food down here for 'em, it's you know. I mean, it they're gonna get it up, but I don't I'd hate to see what that bill runs to try to get it up.
SPEAKER_03Agreed.
SPEAKER_02Should be rolling polypipe or laying polypipe right now. Should have a few rains to where it gets it all up. But yeah, I mean I've I've heard several farmers that they're stalemate on they can't plant right now because they have no moisture. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Definitely haven't seen it this year. Anyway. Alright guys, uh, we're gonna close this one out. It's beginning to be about that time. We gotta let the girls get out the bar. We're here at the uh flying duck tappers in the RT duck call shop here in Jay Stevens calls room. So we gotta let we gotta let the the girls that are working here go home. We stay in too late.
SPEAKER_02We did.
SPEAKER_04Not really. It's a good time though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, we we we nah not really. I mean it's yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04No, we're good.
SPEAKER_03No, we're good.
SPEAKER_04But uh let's uh who wants to close this out with the Thomas, she ain't got one this year yet.
SPEAKER_02But I don't have one.
SPEAKER_03Try it.
SPEAKER_02God help our farmers.
SPEAKER_03Gotta help our farmers ready for rain.
