The Quiet Earth and Send Help with Robb Maynard - Talking Pondo

 In this episode, Robb Maynard has a triumphant return to the podcast. He brings along the movie Send Help. Marty and Clif give Robb the movie The Quiet Earth to watch.

Clif and Marty welcome special guest Robb Maynard from the Reels of Justice podcast for a double feature connected by one simple premise: how would you survive when everything goes completely sideways?

First is The Quiet Earth, the cult New Zealand sci-fi classic about a man who wakes up to find himself seemingly alone in the world. Clif, Marty and Robb discuss post-apocalyptic loneliness, questionable survival plans, and having the entire planet to yourself.

Then it's on to Send Help. Sam Raimi's darkly funny survival thriller starring Rachel McAdams. What starts as a castaway story quickly turns into a battle of wills, shifting power dynamics, and bad choices. The gang debates who's really in control, who's the villain, and whether anyone should be trusted on a deserted island.

Along the way: Survivor strategy, Bruce Campbell Easter eggs, post-apocalyptic road trips, murderous boars and an alarming amount of discussion about tuna fish sandwiches.

Transcript

Robb 0:00
Exactly. It's a little too perfect. It would have been just as easy for them to be already on the beach walking through the jungle and she kind of finds them. It's easy for her to still intercept them before the other guy, you know, meets them.

Clif 0:15
So let me ask you this real quick. Well, ask last thing before we get to scoring this. So who in this movie, who are you rooting for? 

Robb
Oh, Rachel McAdams, a thousand percent. Are you rooting for Rachel McAdams? Marty, who are you rooting for? 

Marty
Uh the Boar.

Robb
Definitely not rooting for the board. I'm not rooting for the boar, the boar started it.

SPEAKER_00 0:37
No, you're supposed to root for Rachel McAdams, right? Yeah, absolutely.

Clif 0:43
Welcome to season four of Talking Pondo. Talking Pondo is a podcast where Clip and Marty give each other a film to watch and talk about them in detail. Some episodes will include a special guest.

Marty 1:00
Linda Little ends up on Saturn, will not be seen this week, so we may bring you the following displacement. I love it. Good old Linda Little. She ain't so little now, is she? She's like a Marvel character with that both words with the same letter. Yeah, yeah, the Marvel world a little bit there.

Clif 1:24
Oh, oh, we'll get there. He there's some definitely some Marvel nods in this movie for sure. Uh in those movies for sure. But hey, we're back.

Marty 1:31
We are back. We never left. We're always here in your phone, your computer, your podcatcher, your RSS feed. It's Talking Pondo. We're back once again, because we never left. I'm Marty, and we have uh Cliff. Hi, how are you? Finishing a drink of water there. So if you're wondering what the uh dramatic pause was about. And uh so we're back with the the movie format again. So we got two more movies. Well, what are the two movies we are talking about this week, Cliff?

Clif 2:03
Ooh, uh today we've got a couple of interesting ones because they've they've got an interesting connection of being a survivor, right? Having the knowledge to survive when things go crazy. And so we've got the Quiet Earth and we've got Send Help. Oh, yeah. Quiet Earth being from 1985 and Send Help being from 2026, 41 years apart, but for some reason kind of similar in a weird way.

Marty 2:26
Yeah. I I meant to look up how old the script for send help was because it felt like maybe that one had been around a little bit. But anyways, we have a guest today, as we are wont to do.

unknown 2:38
Woohoo!

Marty 2:39
And our guest our guest today is the director of such classic audio plays as Do Rabbits Drink Dream of Electric Cheeps and the classic What About Blob, one of my personal favorites. And you also know him as the one of the longtime hosts of the Reels of Justice podcast. It's Rob Maynard.

Robb 3:00
Hello. I am a survivor. That's why I'm here. I'm a survivor, I'm not gonna give up. Destiny's Child, anyone? Marty, I know you love it.

Marty 3:12
No, no, popular around the time Survivor started. Can you believe Survivor's been on the air for what 27 years or something at this point?

Robb 3:19
50 seasons.

Clif 3:20
50 seasons, isn't that right?

Robb 3:22
50 seasons. Wow. And still going straight uh well, still going.

Clif 3:27
Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's changed so much. The format's changed so much, and it can reuse all my jokes I use on Reels of Justice.

Robb 3:37
Well, our listeners maybe have never heard them, so they're new to us. No, there's a probably a a good fenn diagram there, close to a circle. If you're not listening to both, what are you doing? Exactly. Similar corners of the Schlenzo verse.

Marty 3:52
Oh, yeah. Speaking of which, we have our listener mail this week, and uh I feel like our guest was part of it in in certain ways. So, the first one here with uh directly to our website. The rings and connections are called the Schlenzo verse. Not my idea, Maynard insisted. It is awesome how it is growing, and what we mean by that is the continued cross-polonization of I'll be on your show, you're on my show, and then it just spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads, and pull in more and more people.

Robb 4:28
Uh Swinds is in the center of it all.

Marty 4:32
Yes, exactly.

Robb 4:33
Like, yes, like the Earth is, and everything rotates around him, like the sun and the moon.

Marty 4:40
And also, please let the good folks at home know that it was not a Reels guy that flaked on your space camp episode. Given our space camp jokes lately, I was scared that maybe I missed the show. Well, I hate to break it to you. You did miss the show, Schlenzo. You were supposed to talk about space camp with. No, it was not you. I kept trying to tell him. I kept Schlenzo, I kept saying Schlenzo.

Robb 5:04
Isn't there a movie you're supposed to go on and talk about Pondo? I kept going, what, what? And I kept saying space camp. And he didn't get it. Something you know, space camp. Went over his head. I'm gonna get to space camp one day.

Clif 5:16
It was not anybody from the Schlenzoverse. Well, not not completely direct, but not anybody on Reels of Justice, we'll put it on the street.

Robb 5:26
Everyone's part of the Schlenzoverse. It's like it's like the spectrum. You're on it wherever you're on it. Everyone is on it somewhere.

Marty 5:36
And so that that person will be joining us for a future episode. Just, you know, sometimes we uh we forget things, or you know, I don't tell people, hey, the show's coming up, so I've started doing more of the reminders and hopefully we'll prevent the uh, hey, where did our guest go?

Robb 5:53
I really thought Marty was about to roll into a Mr. Rogers type uh spiel there. You know, it can be hard to remember dates that friends we mean right and we mean well, but it can be hard to be in places that we promised. Recording 30 podcasts a week, you know.

Clif 6:10
Why is he reaching into the closet and pulling out a sweater? It works. He's tying his shoes, putting new shoes on.

Robb 6:17
Anyway, as a friend ever let you down? How did that make you feel?

Marty 6:23
Uh from somebody named Scribbler Johnny in response to Space Camp says, astronauts can get big Mac attacks. So is is that why they went off? They launched uh they were going to McDonald's in space at the Rudy wanted to be the first fry cook in on Venus.

Clif 6:41
Oh, really? In Space Camp. That's that when they said, Why do you want to go to space? He said, I want to be the first fry cook on Venus.

Marty 6:46
Uh so somebody was paying more attention than we've got. And uh also a classic response to a classic episode are Jason X Scream 2. Uh Rob Maynard writes in and says, Finally, an art house piece, Jason X. You know, we've been we've so much covering too much, you know, trash around here. Too perfect.

Clif 7:16
I love Jason X. Are you a big fan of it? Are you a hater of it?

Robb 7:21
I am I'm a huge fan of it. It it began its life cycle as trash. Somebody came up and was like, Jason in space. That was the entire elevator pitch, and they just went yup, and they're like, We're gonna hologram some of the best moments from previous things, we're gonna make him a super cyborg. He's gonna freeze people's faces and smash it in one of the best places in the whole series.

Clif 7:46
Oh, so good. I mean, he could he he he he draws blood while he's frozen for fuck's sake. I mean, that movie, I love that movie top to bottom. I think it's just a it it's it doesn't take itself seriously at all. It doesn't take Jason seriously at all. It it's just it's a complete, it's almost like a Spider-Man what if comic or a Marvel what if comic, right? Rather than actual installment in the franchise, and it's just a hell of a lot of fun.

Robb 8:10
Not like that universe has like, especially after nine, especially after he goes to hell. I think they're just like no one cares what we do. So I love X and I love I love Freddie versus Jason quite a bit.

Clif 8:20
Yeah, I do I I do too.

Robb 8:22
Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Clif 8:23
After you know, after three, that franchise starts to just kind of lose its way and it's hard to follow. But then for me, X is such a breath of fresh air, and then Freddie versus Jason is such a cool thing, it's just like you know, how do you argue with those?

Robb 8:38
I think most people think that I would say I think the peak is like three, four, and five. I think that's where there's like canon really set up. And I mean, obviously, one is great, but it's just kind of obviously detached from everything else. Um kind of like Godzilla in the way, where it's like from the first movie to the second, that's completely different. Godzilla, like he dies in the first one, and so does the killer of Friday the 13th, the mom is dead, right? It's a totally different killer after that. It becomes, you know, and I like two. Two is like just old slasher. Two is my favorite. Two is my absolute favorite. It has the sack, unfortunately. And the sack is wonderful, but like the mask is iconic and it's what you want, so you gotta wait.

Clif 9:20
Well, you get the mask in three, that's great.

Marty 9:22
Four is great, but I think a lot of love for four, a lot of love for six, a lot of love for five stars. Five, five is for me, Dminister. Five is the well, we'll we'll cover that one one day. Yeah, exactly.

Robb 9:34
I can't remember the trauma movie part five. I can't remember anything about those middle ones. They all blur together. Seven is wonderful when he when he fights the psychic girl. That's our first Kane Hottery. I'm pretty sure that's a not guilty in the court. Um someone can tell me. Uh, and then when he takes Manhattan, it's actually I we found it not guilty, but then we felt guilty about finding it not guilty. You should. You should we just kind of got we kind of got bullied by a very good lawyer. He just was he was good, he talked quick, and we're we this it was our third episode, too. So we're kind of like willing to listen to it.

SPEAKER_04 10:11
No, it was our second, it was our second episode ever, and so you know, we're just kind of finding our our legs and stuff, and we're just like, you know, in the right, you know, he was like, Yeah, if you were if you were drinking beers and chilling in your basement, you'd love this. And I'm like, you're right, I would.

Clif 10:26
It's the hot tub time machine defense. It's the hot sub time machine defense where it's like this movie's terrible, but if you drink a few beers, this movie gets pretty funny, you know. It's it's defense.

Marty 10:37
The jurisdiction of which uh depends who you get in there. We haven't had Rob on for a long time. He was our our guinea pig for the talking format, our very first uh guest for the format. Yeah, all right, honorary canary. That was way back with the faculty, and since then they've announced they're going to remake the faculty as well. Did you hear about that?

Robb 11:00
I mean, it's it's not sacrosanct, so I'm totally cool with it. Uh, I think they could I think they could since it's already kind of invasions of the body snatchers in a high school, I think they could have thought of another place to put invasions of the body snatchers and done something kind of new. Um as far as I don't know that we have like a a cast of people that I'd want to put like, am I gonna recognize any of these people? Are these all my you know, right? Like the the people I know are that are big in Hollywood are like older than that. Um, so I don't know. It might be some people who have probably bit parts in like euphoria and stuff that I won't recognize.

Clif 11:42
There'll probably be like the teachers, you know, those are the people you'll recognize. You won't recognize the students to recognize the teacher.

Robb 11:48
Miss Sydney Sweeney, I'd come out. Yeah, I'd come out.

Clif 11:52
Um, I think I'm looking forward to teacher. Josh Brolin is a teacher would be great. I'm mixed up here. I'm looking forward to it because I I think horrors come a long way in in the digital effects and using digital and practical effects and combining them. Uh so you know, mixing that in now and and and making a new faculty might be pretty friggin' cool. I'm I'm kind of looking forward to it.

Robb 12:13
Yeah, I mean, the first one's just done so well that it's like, well, you know.

Clif 12:18
No, I like it.

Robb 12:19
Yeah, we just uh you're gonna almost certainly live in its shadow.

Clif 12:24
We just did an interview with um somebody who uh worked on that movie, didn't we?

Robb 12:29
Oh, that I mean it's wonderful, it's great. Everyone should see it. Awards for all of it. Every award.

Clif 12:37
Well, what do you what do you think, Marty? You want to talk about these two movies we're gonna do?

Robb 12:41
Yeah, so we usually defer to the guest for our first for another half hour. Can I say that?

Clif 12:45
Sure. You can say anything you want, sir. Because we can always edit it out if you're uncomfortable. We never do. No, we don't. We really don't, usually. I think the most editing we do is when I say something stupid, which is usually once an episode and then I edit that out. Um which one do you want to go with first, Rob?

Robb 13:04
Usually, I think we do Quiet Earth first.

Clif 13:07
Quiet Earth first? Okay. Let me get a little bit more.

Marty 13:10
So what is this uh I guess it was a staple of of cable television back in the mid-80s. I that's where I saw it several times, Cliff. What is the the Quiet Earth?

Clif 13:25
The Quiet Earth. Uh rated R, one hour 31 minutes. A scientist awakens to find himself alone in the world. In a desperate attempt to search for others, he finds only two who have their own agenda. Um that's your log line. Directed by Jeff Murphy, writers are Craig Harrison, Bill Bear, and Bruno Lawrence, stars Bruno Lawrence, Allison Relig and Pete Smith. Uh storyline, here we go. A man wakes up to find himself literally alone in the world and goes about trying to find other survivors as well as to find out what happened. He suspects that a government research project he was involved in had something to do with the disappearance of everyone. Eventually he finds several other people, and once they begin to trust each other, they try to figure out why they were left on Earth. Is it se is that several or is it two people several?

Robb 14:10
Three is a few. I do think several, you gotta at least get four.

Clif 14:14
Four, yeah. I feel like several indicates he found five or six people, right?

Robb 14:18
Like at least, yeah.

Clif 14:20
Some of them weren't living.

Robb 14:22
A clutch.

Clif 14:22
Oh, that's true. The baby.

Robb 14:25
Uh I would say a few. A few. Well, really, he finds a couple people because he himself does not count. Exactly. He finds two. Did he find himself along the way?

Clif 14:39
Maybe maybe the events are the friends that we made along the way. Is that what you're trying to do?

Marty 14:43
He did find himself, and then after he went through his little uh mental breakdown, he cleaned himself up and decided, okay, let's just get back to being normal there. But for a little bit, he was off on his own little spiritual journey wearing the uh the slip around town.

Robb 14:59
And you know, am I the only one who thinks I would not lose my mind if I woke up and everyone else is gone?

Clif 15:07
I think I think I would probably not be the same person mentally for sure after a while.

Robb 15:12
Oh, yeah, no, I'm doing a lot of fast driving and stuff, but I'm yeah.

Clif 15:17
I I really identified with that. I with like there's a part point where he's like in a raincoat, he's got a hat on, a raincoat, and a fucking saxophone, and he's just going through the middle of downtown at night while it's raining, just making noise because he's so desperate for anybody to hear him and to find someone, you know, and and uh what a movie.

Marty 15:36
Very night of the comet, in a way, right? And around the same time period.

Clif 15:41
Yeah, I think Knight of the Comet's 86, and this is 85, so I think they're right there next to each other, right? Yeah, there's nine years probably. My wife, my wife is a big fan of any movie that opens with a with a cock shot. She always laughs, she always she always laughs and goes, yeah, because she always thinks there's a male nudity today. Yeah, she always thinks there's a disparity between female and male nudity, so she always loves to see the the the I think it's a fair balance, I think.

Robb 16:08
You know, if we've I she's got a point, you know.

Clif 16:12
I'll point out that Boyle did the exact same thing and 28 days later.

Robb 16:16
Maybe more of a fanny shot might be more, you know, like appropriate. Yeah, comparing top to frontal might not be totally fair. Right.

Marty 16:27
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:28
But a little fanny shot here and there, you know, why not?

Marty 16:31
No, Darcy the male girl said the male equivalent of a of a boob shot in a movie would be a flaccid penis. There's more and more of that in the movie.

Robb 16:40
No, because a boob shot it's not humiliating. Well, maybe, maybe it does. So my my first movie is I don't think it does anyone any favors. I mean, I just don't think that's you know, when they talk about like this is the good, my good side. I just don't think that's anyone's good. That's not anyone's good side. That's not going on anyone's headshot.

Clif 17:03
Um well, I mean, maybe left. So my first note on this movie is uh Australian, German, or New Zealand. I was trying to figure out. I was trying to figure out where it was made. I've never seen this before. I somehow missed this on cable completely.

Robb 17:23
I feel like I immediately knew Australia.

Clif 17:25
I hope I was right about that. It was Auckland, New Zealand, actually, is where the chat is.

Robb 17:29
You know, okay, I won't argue with them, but all right.

Clif 17:32
And I mean, we could piss off a lot of Australians listening by saying, hey, it's basically the same thing. It isn't. I will I was thinking about it, but I'm not sure. We know it's different.

Robb 17:39
We know it's different. Because they're gonna throw their boomerangs at me. Exactly. Exactly. Is that New Zealand?

Clif 17:45
I just I just don't need a thousand people doing a haka dance at me. Okay, I just I don't need it.

Robb 17:50
I'm alright with it. I mean, it's what comes after the dance that's the problem. It's not the dance itself. The dance gives you a good time to run. Someone starts coming up into a haka, leave. Leave. There's time.

Clif 18:05
That's true. It is like a rattle, rattling, a snake rattling its rattle, right?

Robb 18:09
Exactly. They're poised to strike. Well, bye. Well, I got in my car. They were dancing.

Clif 18:19
Did you ever notice how people back in these, back in the day in these movies, uh because this movie, I know it's 85, but movies that were made outside of America in the 80s feel like they're kind of more mired in the stuck in the 70s to me a little bit. Like this. They're lower budget.

Robb 18:34
So and they're and so they're using a lot of the equipment from the 70s. So it's got like uh feel and look to it, that aesthetic, right? It's like how they how the uh the Viet Cong fought the the war with a lot of the old Russian supplies from World War II, right? They're just interesting analogy, yes. But yeah, that's what they had, though. And it worked, all right.

Clif 18:56
But it's it seems like back then people didn't talk to themselves in movies like like they talk like when you even when you see people left alone now in a movie, they they are they're all they're narrating, they're constantly narrating to themselves and to the person watching, right? But this guy did that, you just gotta fucking sit there and watch him do what he's doing.

Robb 19:14
I disagree. Uh, there's a moment walks into uh what Project Fleshlight. Yes. And uh he Project Flesh Light? He said yes. So that's what it's called now, Marty. So who means for reality? So uh and and first and first thing he's saying to his boss, you know, is like, you did it, you know. Like he basically was like, uh, you crazy son of a bitch, you really did it now. And then a few moments later, he's he's in a tape recorder noting everything. I wish he had done it all into the recorder. It makes sense when he does it into the recorder. Hey, I'm Dr. Zach Efron, whatever his name was. And uh, you know, and you know, I was part of Project Flashlight, and this guy really screwed up, my boss really screwed up. Then it would make more sense, but when he was just speaking to no one to the room, I'm like, hmm. I mean, I talk to myself a lot when I'm alone, but it's mostly cursing.

Clif 20:08
Yeah, I I I feel like for the you're right, but like when he's wandering around the town and he's doing what he's doing, he's just doing there's no narration. He's not talking to himself, he's not trying to hear his own voice to keep himself company or whatever, which I feel like nowadays that that would happen. You know, that they would much more do that, you know. Uh I don't know. I just I found it kind of eerie and kind of cool. Uh like I liked the choice. Yeah, the quiet earth, right? I guess that makes sense.

Marty 20:36
Look at me. Um, like you were saying, the end the beginning shot. When you see what is it, 28 days later, you think, oh, he was Danny Boyle inspired by the beginning of this movie? Very much so similar opening shot.

Clif 20:48
It's very similar, very similar opening shot. Yep. Guy in the you know, overhead shot, guy in a bed naked, exact same shot almost.

Robb 20:58
God, I mean, what what movie isn't doesn't start with a shot like that, honestly.

Clif 21:03
Space game, Animal House, you know.

Robb 21:06
But they would have been better films for it. Yeah, exactly. Really missed the Belushi opening scene. I think that would have really set the tone. I I love it.

Clif 21:19
I love it because he he like he moves into a fine state.

Robb 21:22
No way he would have appreciated doing it flaccid, by the way, either.

Clif 21:25
No, that's true.

Robb 21:30
Um, is it flaccid or flaccid? Oh, flaccid with a C for sure.

SPEAKER_04 21:35
No, but it's two C's.

Robb 21:37
Yeah, but it is it's not Italian though, right? Looks like my report card.

Clif 21:40
I I believe the first C is the hard C silent.

SPEAKER_03 21:44
Flaccid, flaccid, hard C.

Robb 21:47
Sorry. The silent C.

Clif 21:50
He uh so he moves into a he moves into a fine estate where he proceeds to lose his money, he sets up his electricity, and the the setting up of the taper. Quarters and all the people where he's doing his giant speech on the uh balcony is also another one of my favorite scenes. That kind of what the fuck is he doing? Oh, okay, he's just losing his mind. That's nice.

Marty 22:11
You've had your turn already. He tells the uh Hitler Standee. Yeah. And this is the what does he say?

Clif 22:18
He's the president of Earth, is that right?

Robb 22:20
Yeah. President of this quiet earth. Because I said, that's the name of the movie. God, he said it out loud. Um, but he does some stuff that we've seen in you know, like in later films like I Am Legend and stuff like that. Where it's kind of always the post like sending the message of like, here I am, come find me. Um going around and moving everything, befriending like a mannequin or like a cutout.

Clif 22:47
That's very it reminds me of Omega Man too, going to the movie theater, watching the movies, you know, that type of even castaway, which will be an interesting overlap with what we can discuss later.

Robb 22:58
But like making the volleyball, the inanimate object, a character. So then there's a reason that he's talking out loud. He's explaining everything to Wilson, the volleyball, or whoever he has a reason to discuss it. And I mean, as you said, I mean, speaking would help stave off his sanity, probably. So I would think so.

Marty 23:17
Yeah. Helps me. He was already trying to kill himself, too. So he was already in a bad state and felt responsible for everything. So who knows how to fractured mental.

Robb 23:31
I don't know. I mean, uh obviously if he's killing himself, he was unhappy. Uh do we establish what he was unhappy about? I think it was the project, right?

Clif 23:39
Or I think it was, yeah. Or just his life in general, both, you know.

Robb 23:43
Well, that's what I'm saying. If he has larger problems, I think a lot of them are solved by every single person disappearing. I'm for me, I'm I try to kill myself, I wake up and everyone else is dead and I'm alive. I go, oh phew.

Clif 23:58
Reverse solution.

Robb 24:00
Exactly. Exactly. I was like, that's much better, actually, for me.

Clif 24:07
I mean, I didn't think that was possible to get rid of everybody, but I didn't know that was an option on the table.

Robb 24:12
Had I that's the lever I would have pulled, but I did not know it was it was a call. We're either in a black hole or we're dead. I'm not sure which. Well, I don't know if it would matter. I think again, I think I would just go around driving real fast and driving around that one truck in the middle of the road.

Clif 24:33
Figure out how to farm. I would teach myself how to fly a helicopter and just zip around in a helicopter every time. I'm gonna farm first.

Marty 24:42
Uh true too. You're gonna run out of good food pretty quick. I guess his issue was he knew the sun was acting weird and there was only a limited time before. Well, you kept having those events, right?

Clif 24:55
What about it?

Robb 24:58
The sun's on the fritz. I guess I'll go in and screw it out and screw in another sun. Let me get my stepladder.

Marty 25:09
Yeah, which is what happens, right?

Robb 25:11
And then I'm like, well, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Whatever. The sun goes out, I uh next effect gets me. Whatever. I sure hope, I sure hope wherever it takes me, it's not where all those fucking people that I owe money to and my old boss is. I hope I get I hope the effects are different portals and he gets on a different planet.

Marty 25:32
That's not his boss anymore out on Saturn. You know, it's different rules there.

Robb 25:36
So another good overlap with the other movie. That's true. But I yeah, I don't know. It seems like he he he uh he's like my my work tells me that you are under work guidelines even even if you're at a not if it's like if it's a work function but away from work, you're still under work guidelines. Yeah, well if it's a being teleported to another planet, right? Well, is being teleported to another planet by your work project count as a work uh excursion.

Clif 26:11
Did he turn to the right and like there was suddenly like a fucking place where he needed to check in and get his badge, like whatever fucking conference on the screen is? No, it's getting over there.

Robb 26:20
I think he should be getting over time for this. Because it's going to it's going to interfere with his weekend plans. And it's work's fault.

Clif 26:29
He's joyful in his loneliness at first, but then he starts to fucking realize, like, like you've been talking about, right? Like, I think I'd go drive fast and I'd learn how to farm, right? Like he seems to kind of enjoy it in the beginning, and then finally he's it's like okay, this is you know, he starts to go kind of feral and there's nobody to talk to.

Robb 26:47
It's like home alone. He loves in the beginning, he can bounce on his bed and do everything and there's no one to cook dinner. Right.

Clif 26:54
And then the wet bandits show up.

Robb 26:55
Yeah.

Clif 26:56
And then the wet bandits show up. And then guess what? He finds the girl and the other dude. And they're the wet bandits of the wet bandits.

Robb 27:02
Well, things are fine when he finds the girl, right? And we can see that that's solved part of the problem.

Clif 27:10
Mm-hmm.

Robb 27:10
Yeah.

Clif 27:11
Sort of. I mean until you know. Do you think he knew he was gonna go to the other planet and leave those two where they were?

Marty 27:19
Like, do you think we'd know he would know that, or how I don't think he knew I knew he knew something was gonna happen, but I don't know.

Clif 27:26
So he was just trying to kill himself and blow that thing up, and then he he comes to on this other planet. He's like, okay.

Robb 27:35
Yeah, he meets another couple on an on that other planet. He's gonna blow up another facility.

Marty 27:40
And Jason's on that planet too.

Robb 27:43
Yeah, the thing is if their project screwed up the sun, they can blow up that facility all they want. Like the damage is done.

Clif 27:52
Yeah, but he said that when the event happens, if the laser's hitting it or whatever, and you blow that shit up, there's gonna be some ther, blah, blah, blah. But that's also the thing where I think you may be right. I think he's he doesn't I think you may be you're right. Like he's not thinking, oh, this is gonna make some sort of thing happen. He's just like, I'm just gonna kill myself while the event happens and see what happens. Because he that's what happened last time to him, right? He he he killed him, he tried to kill himself, the event happened, he woke up without any people. Well, I guess what happens what happens if it happens again? And this is a big event. Like he's because he keeps saying it's gonna be a big event, right? Like, I'll kill myself during this big event, see what the fuck happens. Right? Like, I I don't know. I I don't think he really had a plan. He definitely didn't know where the fuck he was gonna happen. 2 30, right? Wasn't that it? 2 30 in the morning, right? No, oh no, six six something. Sorry, it was six twelve on the on the alarm clock and it stopped at six twelve. I put it in my notes. 230 was how long we had to watch the sun come up for the credits at the beginning of the film. Two and a half minutes of watching the sun come up. Well, yeah, the credits were going. So I could see why I could see why Bruno wrote this. This is uh like an actor's like wet dream. You know, he's on he's on camera by himself for 30 minutes, right? Oh yeah, just chewing screenery. This is an actor's wet dream. Like, oh my god, just me? Me for 40 minutes? Perfect, let's do it. You know, some real soul taker vibes.

Robb 29:20
Absolutely. Well, it's written by me, it stars me. Directed by this guy who wasn't so busy. Uh and what's up, well, it's New Zealand, as you said, right? But like uh when's Mad Max? That's 84? That was before this. Yeah, 83. That's Australia, even yeah, that's true. Again, I mean, okay, they're not the same, but like they power around. Like, come on, like they they fucking hang out. They know each other. They know each other. I don't want to hear it from the other. Don't act like they don't. Yeah, don't act like that that um that the breakthrough Australia made in the West with like crocodile and Dundee, how that made it popular didn't help New Zealand get a whole lot of shit their foot in the door.

Clif 30:07
I bet you New Zealand hates crocodile, done.

Robb 30:10
They Trojan horsed in with them too. Trojan kangaroo. The New Zealand came along, us two, and they came out doing the haka.

Marty 30:17
Got Kangaroo jacked. I mean, our second movie.

SPEAKER_03 30:20
We talk funny too, mate.

Marty 30:22
Our second movie is financed by Canada and shot in Thailand. So we got we got stuff going all over the place here. So multicultural.

Clif 30:35
Uh let's see, what else have I got here?

Marty 30:37
In New Zealand, they're like, oh, you know, that that Canadian-Mexican movie, it's all the same thing, right? They're like right next to each other, right? Puerto Rican cinema, it's the same thing as Hawaiian and Alaska cinema. They're neighbors, they're neighbors.

Robb 30:51
They're all like islands.

Clif 30:55
Well, I was wrong. New Zealand actually loves Crocodile Dundee. It was well received. Of course. This is New Zealand's first sci-fi movie, too, apparently. Oh, really? That's interesting. That's well, that's a damn good one for a first sci-fi movie. Um, I I find the movie very unique and interesting and and uh easy to watch. You know, the girl it gave me weird vibes right from the beginning. I I didn't like her and I couldn't tell really tell why. Um beggars can't be choosers, Cliff. Yeah, the other dude with the leather, I mean, that dude literally uh uh as Pete is running in leather fucking pants at one point. Uh he's just jogging in leather pants, and all I could think of was like that has gotta be the chafing has got to be ungodly in that those pants. I mean, if it's what he's used to, uh, you know, then he's you know, if he if he wears that a lot, then he's just just he's just he's just calloused all that up. Yeah, that's what I would think. That's lovely.

Robb 31:54
Like these things are basically his skin at this point. Like they're so well worn. He doesn't he sleeps in them because to peel them off at night is just it's not worth it.

Clif 32:04
I feel like I I want to do like Jeffrey from Franken Hooker and just drill that memory out of my fucking head. Just me.

Marty 32:12
Anyway. So I guess the real question is is Crocodile Dundee science fiction?

Robb 32:20
No. No.

Marty 32:21
What?

Robb 32:21
No, no. Comedy part two of crime. I know he beats up some gangsters at some point. That might be the second movie.

Clif 32:31
I've probably seen the second movie. Yes. And that's the cop from Die Hard in that. He's the he's the he's the uh limo driver in that movie. There's a uh little bit of overclocking while he's driving that big Jeep thing, uh, which I found, you know, you can always see it. I can always see it, but it was used pretty well. Um then they sped up something. Yeah, they just they overclock it to speed it up. So you you know you drive 25 miles an hour, but it looks like you're going 50 type of thing. But it always kind of looks kind of goofy. They used to do it in like three stooges type of stuff, and you can always kind of see it when they do it. Um, but sometimes they hide it really well. This this did a pretty good job, I think. I also noticed that there's a blower hood on a Ford Maverick. Like, I don't know how much air you're needing to ram into that fucking engine, but it I'm sure you're not getting any performance boost out of that. It just looks cool, man. I mean, I guess, bro. It doesn't look cool at all to me, but okay. I mean, there's I'm not sure how you make a Ford Maverick cool, but well, there's no one around to laugh.

Marty 33:41
That's really what this movie's about. There's nobody around to laugh.

Robb 33:45
So do whatever you want. Exactly. So let the man do what he wants and drive whatever dumb shit that he didn't have the guts to drive before. Because Cliff would have been going, look at this guy with his glowing ass. Fucking Ford Maverick. It's fucking dick. And that's that's and that's why this guy tried to swallow a whole mouthful of pills because I'm like these dudes laughing at my blower man, Ford Maverick, all the time. I wish they would all just disappear, but if they won't, I'll die.

Clif 34:13
That's fucking hilarious. Um well, so that you can also call this film, I guess, lack of judgment, right? At some point, you know, you just nobody's there to judge, right? You just get to do whatever you want. YOLO. Black Hole Sun, the movie. Oh, that's fucking hilarious. I haven't laughed like I needed that laugh. It's been a rough week. Appreciate you, Rob. All right. Um do we do we rate this? We score it. Yes, I think so. I think uh I think that was a pretty good one there. Um what do you get? What do you think, Rob? What do you give it? Um five. Five star scale. Five out of five.

Robb 34:53
Like and subscribe. I think I think three, if not 2.5. I like it's somewhere in there. There's a lot of nothing happening. So obviously, because it's the budget, you know, so like they saved a ton of money on casting, only having three actors, but like what does it say about being alone that you know we haven't seen before or later? I guess the fact that it kind of came before, but I mean, even as you said, uh you've already mentioned Omega Man. There's the last man on earth too with Vincent Price. Yeah, it's even older. Yeah, um, and about three episodes. Exactly. So right. Uh and so what it what do they say about it? Uh it's kind of like he still has interpersonal problems now, even though the world's you know, kind of desolate.

Clif 35:47
Well, two two guys, one girl is never at the for the end of the world going to end well.

Robb 35:51
I I might have um I might have just pulled up stakes and and just seen what was come what was down the road. Because he found two. So like he found two, yeah. Right. Like you just have to hope that maybe someone out there has sleep apnea, and at that particular moment, you know, they were suffering an incident where they, you know, God bless them. It's that's why I asked the time. 612 would be very unlikely. But maybe they work third shift and they have sleep apnea and they just got home around 4 or 5 a.m. they can finally lay in. Fucking forgot to put the CPAP on and forgot to plug in the CPAP machine. Yeah, just past it. It happens. Um, you know, maybe the power kicked out. Uh, we know that there was a lot of losses of power, right? So a lot of CPAP machines would have gone out. So there's probably a plan full of sleep apnea survivors that this person could cross-pollinate with.

Clif 36:43
Well, and to be fair, he's on a tiny fucking island. He found two people. Go to the bigger island next door, you'll probably find 20. Right.

Marty 36:52
The sun's burning out. There's a big giant. Well, it's true.

Robb 36:54
Well, then you won't really need to worry about the the the end all of your relationship problem, I guess. And and if it's and if it's and if your problem is more about a quick, easy fix, I think everything something could be worked out between everyone. You know, this was the 80s, which was damn near the 80s in New Zealand, which as we already established, is the 70s. So just keep partying. Yeah, free love stuff was still going on. She liked heard the song Triad, right? Uh, why can't we go on as three?

Marty 37:33
Marty, what do you give it? Uh, after a lot of back and forth, I'm gonna go two and a half. There's a lot of good swings, a lot of interesting ideas, but like what was pointed out, there is a lot of long nothingness, and uh, it's not like we haven't seen these ideas before. Uh, I I saw this movie about 10 years ago. I had seen it before, but I hadn't seen it in a long time, and I remembered things that weren't even in the movie, so it's just strange how it was like, this is I refer to the movie. Then you didn't then you didn't remember the Marty, you made the Marty. It was Mandela.

Robb 38:07
Yeah, you can't remember something that's not in the movie. You've just invented something.

Marty 38:11
Yeah. Or I saw a different cut. Is there a different cut of this movie with some extra stuff? No, Marty here just misremembering it with some other films.

Robb 38:20
Just you.

Marty 38:20
But I think thanks to to Gene Mott from the old GMR podcast. If you remember me on that, nobody does, which is fine. You can listen to him if you want at your own risk. But he said, let's watch The Quiet Earth. It's this cool sci-fi movie from the 80s. I'm like, what? And then we watched it, I'm like, oh, I vaguely remember this from like Cinemax or something in the middle of the night. And so I've had it in my back pocket and thought. This is weird.

Robb 38:44
I was watching Cinemax in the middle of the night, and I can tell you what was on it, and it wasn't.

Marty 38:48
Well, this we'll see. This is uh around it hit cable around 86, so Cinemax was still just a basic movie channel. They hadn't turned into Cinemax quite yet. Although there are some things in this movie that could qualify. But anyways, thanks for bringing the movie up, Gene. So before you get the clip.

Clif 39:06
Um, so one of the things I read about this movie is that it's it's based on the actual experience of an American tourist in the 70s because apparently New Zealanders sleep very late on the weekends. And so there's just fucking like nobody around. Like he went down, he he went down to get like to get something, and just fucking the town's it's quiet. It's empty. It's some small town in New Zealand, um, which I thought was kind of funny. Uh I liked it. It's again, it's the first time.

Robb 39:32
Everyone does that. Uh they pick that up from Australia. Everyone sleeps, they take a big nap in the middle of the day. It's called the didgery doze.

Clif 39:42
Ah my brain's breaking because I think you're I think you're trolling me, but it also sounds plausible. It could happen.

unknown 39:49
It could happen.

Clif 39:50
Like a siesta. Anyway, if they're not doing it, they should start. Uh, I liked it. Uh I I I agree with you guys. There's there's a lot of time where it's doing nothing. I do like the fact that it kind of did this thing where he was like, oh, I'm I'm alone. This is great. Well, let me figure out what's going on. Uh, I don't really like being alone. And then at the end, you know, he's like, Well, fuck these two. I'm just gonna go blow myself up. It was a very weird movie. Uh, three stars. I give it three.

Robb 40:16
I want to lock into my 2.5 because I think comparing it to other movies that lock into life. Yeah, that are like this, like Omega Man, I am legend, they all have that sequence where they go crazy from being alone and we postulate what we would do, and then they move on to something more interesting where like vampire ghouls start chasing us. Like eventually something happens later. Right, right, right. And that's what that's what this movie's kind of missing.

Clif 40:43
But it's still beautifully shot. It's yeah, it looks good. I mean, I I don't have any problems with it production-wise, story-wise, it's just I don't know, pacing. Uh like you said, it's it's not it's not a new idea. It's doesn't let the writer act. Yeah. Or don't let the actor write. Yeah. Well, unfortunately that happens a lot now, Riff. Um, all right, so what do we got next, Marty?

Marty 41:08
Send help. We have uh a movie that's very similar to the one we just talked about in a lot of respects, with the uh turning into something else about halfway through and maybe being a bit long. But before we get into that, what is well, they say that original concepts aren't made in Hollywood anymore, that everything has to be IP driven or it doesn't get made. And so it's refreshing to see some uh fresher original concept come through, like send help, and then you go, wait a minute, is this just survivor the movie? That's an IP. Cliff, what is send help?

Clif 41:46
Send help 2026 rated R, uh, one hour and 53 minutes. Let's see. When an employee and her insufferable boss become stranded on a desert island, the only survivors of a plane crash they must overcome past grievances and work together to make it out alive. Sure. Uh log line directed by Stan Raimi, written by uh Damian Shannon, Mark Swift, stars Rachel McAdams, Dylan O'Brien. Um, those are basically basically all that's on screen for Jesus, quite a bit. Uh let's see here. Storyline. Uh reviewers say Send Help delivers a wildly entertaining, genre-bending experience elevated Rachel McAdams pilots. That's sorry, that's a summary. Where is the storyline? There it is. Sorry. An employee and her insufferable boss are stranded on an island. She teaches him how to survive and his attitude changes somewhat. While he's very interested in returning to civilization, she has other ideas. Things turn darker when their differences collide. This is not a rom-com.

Robb 42:39
Literally what the storyline says. Absolutely. Uh, but it wants you to think that it could be or might be. And those that's that's one of the great things about this movie is the way it dances.

Clif 42:50
There's a weird sexual tension in scenes. Like there's a will they or won't they?

Robb 42:56
I don't know that it's that. I think that the the filmmakers are kind of deliberately teasing you with genre, right? They're like, You you've seen a movie like this before. It's like 40 days, 40 nights. Uh, or um, there was one recently I want to say was Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum. I want to say like the lost. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was good. I liked that one. Um, but they were like sincerely lost and stuff. And it's like, you know, these two are gonna have to Lost in Paradise, I think that was, or something like that. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot, right? Where it's like two people stranded, like they're gonna co-op have to cooperate in order to survive. That's not what this movie's about. This movie is not about them cooperating.

Clif 43:35
No. I just I mean that there's some sexual tension from her, I think it comes from her mainly, where you you know she's she's she talks to her bird early on about how flirty he was at a at a meeting. You she's got obviously something for him. It's like misery, like and a lot of the exactly. That's exactly. I have I have a note in here that basically is like, oh shit, she's gonna misery his ass right here with you know during the rats. Yeah. Um, so I do think. That she has an affection for him. I don't think it's returned. So there's this weird sort of and I think he picks up on it at some point and even plays into it.

Robb 44:07
Here's the way I read it. Not that she's uh so much attracted to him, right? But she sees the other woman in the beginning in the interview who uh has influence over him and gets promotions in good spots merely because he's attracted to her. So I think she wants not that she's so much attracted to him, but she wants him to be attracted to her because of that, giving her leverage and ability to then broker the kind of deals and power that she ultimately wants.

Clif 44:39
Right, and so that's kind of what I mean, like sexual tension, using a sexual while or or you know, building that sexual. I don't think it ever works.

Robb 44:47
I don't think it ever works in this movie. I don't think he ever feels anything towards her. I think where he feigns it, he is feigning it. Yes, because he believes that she's into him, but really she's trying to manipulate and play him. Sure. I I agree. And he deserves it. I will say he deserves it. She's doing, I think, the the right thing, what I would do.

Clif 45:11
I think she's planning, I think she's you know, and it I love that ending where she's like strategy and plotting, planning, dude. Strategy and planning, dude. And I think that uh a lot of this shit is you know, like once she realizes her the it's like an opportunity for her. She lands on this fucking island with this guy, and she's like, Oh shit, I've kind of I mean, yes, we're shipwrecked, but once she starts figuring shit out, she's like, I've I've got a golden opportunity here. Like this is this is my op this is my opportunity, and she plays it to the fucking hill.

Robb 45:40
Well, as Marty said, like she's a huge fan of Survivor, the TV show, and that's how she's watched. And a lot of that show is making allies, using those allies temporarily while you can to complete certain challenges, and then stabbing them in the fucking back and getting them off the island and turning all the weaker people onto your side to be against the strong ones. And so I think there's a lot of that strategy and planning too, where she is she's really like playing him along along the way and kind of plays the game the right way, kind of the whole time. So I I think the film is teasing attention and uh like a sexual tension, but I I don't I but the actual romance romantic feeling isn't there. The movie's trying to throw you out so it can swerve you.

Clif 46:23
Yeah, exactly. But it's that's the I picked up on it. I thought I guess is what I'm trying to say. I'm like, I'm picking up on this weird thing they're trying to throw at us. Yeah.

Robb 46:30
Oh well, it becomes very unsubtle later into the film where they're you know, where he's where he's like, I love you, you know. They they've got all the pretense. It's like, I love you. Why didn't you just say that? Why didn't you just say so? It's Mr. Mr. Smith at the end of the movie. Right.

Clif 46:45
Uh it's kind of they they really worked on ugling up Rachel in the for the beginning of the movie. Wait a minute.

Robb 46:52
He gave her that bird cat lady vibe. Uh those are the exact words Ben used too, cat lady, even though she has the bird only.

Clif 47:00
They they look she's a pretty girl, so you you're gonna have you know, you you're gonna have to bury her. It's she's her prettiness is always gonna shine through, but she looks she looks haggard, she looks like she's not really taking care of herself very well. It's not surprising she's drinking and eating post with her verb, you know.

Robb 47:16
It's like um gave her like a big mole, they're always like making her teeth dirty or or or have something in it.

Clif 47:24
So they're really trying to and then on the on the island she gets prettier and prettier.

Robb 47:28
Yeah, that's exactly what I heard about.

Clif 47:30
Her hair looks nicer and and she gets prettier and prettier.

Robb 47:32
She's like thriving on the island. Exactly. She and she does thrive in that. And I that's obviously in the case.

SPEAKER_03 47:38
Look at you, you're thriving.

Robb 47:39
But she's she's getting um she's getting fresher water for her showers. Um, she's getting clean fruit and stuff, and probably fresh fish and stuff all the time. So that's gonna make her skin glow naturally. Uh, because what do we see? Probably sneaking back to the house when she saw her full stuff and we see her making, she's making something terrible at home, I remember. She's making like just tuna fish sandwiches. Yeah, tuna fish sandwich, which she fucking hates. Yeah. And who, who uh like meal preps, tuna fish sandwiches? Like you maybe you make a big match of a batch of tuna salad, but then you put it in a container and you don't put it on the bread until the the few minutes before you eat it. It's gonna get soggy and awful. So, as far as strategy and planning, Rachel McAdams, this this this meal prep of sandwich, maybe that's her preference.

Clif 48:25
Gross. I mean, she did kill three fucking people, so yeah, I mean, she's pretty crucial. Tuna fish is her tuna fish on moist bread is her least crime, is what I'm saying.

Marty 48:37
More like she didn't save the mighty two of them. Well-made sandwich, it goes in that drawer and it doesn't break apart, you know.

Clif 48:45
That's true.

Marty 48:45
It's very rubbery.

Clif 48:47
Did you guys did you guys pick up on the Bruce Campbell oil painting in the office?

Marty 48:50
There's that picture of Bruce in the in the office. That was great.

Clif 48:53
Yeah, he's uh it looks like that's his dead dad, is Bruce Campbell.

Marty 48:58
So that TV show, The Studio, that came out last year about uh making IP of movies that you can't make into movies, and they did this one about the Kool-Aid movie. And how are we gonna make the Kool-Aid movie? I'm gonna make the cool, dark Kool-Aid movie. We're gonna make it about Jim Jones. Jonestown. And so they were gonna make a Jonestown. So this is kind of like the dark Kool-Aid movie of Survivor, in a way. Like we're gonna make a really dark survivor movie.

Robb 49:27
I don't know how you got there. I don't know how many skips and jumps you had to take to get there. But um what this reminded of me of I said it uh in my recommendation of justice of this too. Um is you made me lose it because I mentioned the recommendation of justice. It reminded me of uh Triangles of Triangle of Sadness. Um it was like 2022. Um but it's like a very, very long movie, but that's told in like three parts. But specif specifically, like Act Two and Three are all about this rich yacht that crashes on an island, and some of the rich guys survive, but then some of the uh like the help, like you know, that's basically what they are on the boat, um uh like maids and and stuff like that, cooks, they survive too, and they are all at least the one uh I think she is literally at like a house cleaner uh on the boat, is incredibly competent on the island. She can fish and clean fish and build a fire, and none of those rix rich fucks can do anything for themselves, and so they're completely at her mercy. And so that completely switches the power dynamic from who is powerful on the boat simply because of money, not because they're capable at all, they just have money. Uh they're uh and then who in this situation when money's not useful anymore, who is actually powerful and and resourceful. And that's that's what send help remind me of totally too. It's like uh I called it a a rich douche eat crow double feature. You could uh you could have of these two. Uh because like it definitely plays with the power dynamics for sure, right? Like he you know, he tries to be the boss and it's like no, not here. Like, and she can just walk away and leave them and and be like, you see, like you have nothing.

Clif 51:13
Well, he's he's right. You don't want to like you don't want to live on the beach. It's got sand fleas and shit. It's it's not a nice place to live. Like later on when they rebuild and they're on the rock that's a little elevated, much better. She should know that from her survivor training. She should know that from her survivor training, right? And that's but that's something that happens on that show. They start on the beach and they go up. That's exactly it. Because they all get they all end up with fucking bites all over them from the sand fleas and shit like that, right? And they move up off the roof.

Robb 51:38
But so that's that's why I think what does she sleep in? She's not sleeping on the ground. She said she built a hammock. That's a good point.

Clif 51:46
That's a good one.

Robb 51:47
She doesn't have to sleep on the ground. She's looking for both and Ray. He's sleeping on the ground. You need to build, oh well, screw him, he's a piece of crap. Or she didn't build him a hammock. I mean, literally, why would she build him a hammock? And that now you know why they stayed on the beach, because now he can get bit by sand fleas and she can still sleep on the hammock unaffected. So what you you saw there wasn't a problem. You saw the plan, that strategy and planning. Uh, and so, but also she's close to the beach, she can spell things out, she can have, she can see boats, boats more importantly, can see her and the structure they built. And then I think building something high, I think, would be a good plan, inevitably.

Clif 52:24
But but once she finds, once she finds the we know early on she finds the um the building, right?

Robb 52:31
We she she no, not that I was about to say not that early on. There's quite a lot of action, and I'm gonna say when they're on the beach, there's quite a lot of action where she thinks rescue is gonna come soon and she wants to leave. Then a little later, her plan is to stay longer, and which is the five years. And she goes exploring. And she goes exploring the house.

Clif 52:50
So she finds the house early, is what I'm saying, right? We she finds the house way earlier than it's revealed to us that she's that that we know the house is there.

Robb 52:57
No, I'd say they have already been they've already been there for a week or two weeks, I'd say, before she finds that house.

Clif 53:05
Right, right, right. But then, but like some what I'm saying is once she goes exploring, leaves him on the beach and goes exploring and goes to this house, I think that's when the plan begins to actually form, right? Like the first two weeks when she's on the beach, there's no fucking plan. The plan is, you know, to try and survive, keep this dude alive, and hopefully somebody will come. And then once she figures out that, oh, she's gonna be fine, then then the plan starts to form. And we see her not go, you know, when she sees the boat in the distance and she's like, not too early, you know, and she turns back and goes back to camp. I'll disagree. That's when for me when the plan starts forming.

Robb 53:41
I'll disagree. And I and the movie will tell you why, too. So at that point, they're already two weeks in. She has already established power over him. She's she's already uh shown that he can just be left and not treated with wounds and be left to die. So he's already under his control, under her control. And so that's her plan is to dominate him and get her him to her side for when they get rescued. Right, absolutely. That's all that's already the plan. The plan's already in motion. And the completely changes. Then, well, see, the plan almost changes when she finds the building. She goes, Oh, this building could screw my plans. If he finds this building, he can now just leave and live in comfort and doesn't need me. I need to hide this building because I already have a plan to control him and it's interfering with my plan. So the plan, the plan becomes modified because now she has a new place for resources. But the plan was always to dominate him and get what she wanted. And that was the plan from I'd say at least this the second day. I mean, I'm sure in the beginning it was just treat his wounds. I don't agree. That's all I think. As soon as she's treated his wounds, it's about power and control.

Clif 54:50
And and it's when he starts, it's no, she's I think in the beginning she's hopeful that he's not gonna be a fucking dick. And when he once he's a dick, that's when she's like, Oh, okay, fuck you, and walks away. She is to teach him a lesson and then come laughing.

Robb 55:04
She's already seen them laughing after video.

Clif 55:07
And she's gonna quit. As soon as she hits the ground, she's quitting. She's she's deleted the the document, she's gonna tell him to go fuck themselves, and she's gonna quit, right? Yeah, right. So so when she when she crashed on the phone, who cares? She's the only yeah, no, that's not true. The only reason to save her control. She thinks it's no, the only reason to save him is because if they are rescued, she might get the VP job that she's after. I have to do that. That she might be able to take the VP job she's after.

Robb 55:32
Why would she want it? She no, he he laughed at her. I wouldn't want to be his VP or anything now. I think she is going to use this situation to maybe be able to manipulate him into that position, if so, but only if she can then re-establish power. She can't be laughed at by him. She would just wouldn't work. I don't think she wants to work under someone in those kind of conditions. I don't think she wants to eat that much crow. She has eaten a lot.

Clif 56:00
I mean, I was gonna say she's she's been taking it her whole fucking life.

Robb 56:02
I mean, they've really established that she's she's beat down, she's a beat down person in this fucking case. Except we see her turn a corner that we've never seen that we have not seen the character do where she when she deletes that document. She has enough. Enough is enough, and then the plane crashes. But I think enough was already enough there in the plane, and all she got then was a situation where she could suddenly shine and be the dominant figure and you know, maybe yeah, bully him into a situation where uh she can she can VP. But if not, I think she always knew if she could just survive and get home, she can do what she inevitably did, which is to leverage it into a survivor story for herself for some wealth and fame. Possibly.

Clif 56:44
I mean, I I mean she's definitely.

Robb 56:45
Strategy and planning, I think she kind of.

Clif 56:47
Strategy and planning, you know, I mean, you're a software. If you build software, you know iterative designs and things change on the fly, right? You make changes as things come up, things you didn't know, emerging requirements, this that sort of thing. And I feel like that's exactly what she's doing. She's that for sure. She's working, she's working the fucking problem, right? It goes from it goes from save him and maybe get a VP to oh shit, I can be on this island a long time. Now here we go.

Robb 57:11
Marty, what do you think? Am I right or is Cliff Wright? It's me, isn't it? You can say it. But go ahead, it's not him. It's not him. It's not him. We made a movie, we made three movies together, Marty. What are you doing to me?

Marty 57:24
I I thought uh that in the beginning she was just doing the decent thing, right? She knew how to do survival skills, and then it's like, oh, you're gonna continue to be a dick? Well, then everything's gonna switch. But I felt like there was a reset switch for a bit there. And she was just continued to be an asshole, and it's like, okay, well, now it's on. Now we're gonna start scheming and getting weird and crazy.

Robb 57:47
Because at the moment, because at the moment it's probably it's pretty much the second day where he was like, You're fired, and she just laughs. You know, she's like, I'll tell you where to drop off my check. She's already written the job off. Now it's right now, it's about her survival and her comfort, and if he wants to be dragged along, that's fine. But no matter what, as long as she gets back, she can leverage this into her own good situation, whether she stays at that job or not.

Clif 58:13
You take up golf.

Robb 58:15
As you did.

Clif 58:16
I I love how she jumps around after she makes the fire. Um when she feeds him that fish. Like, I I'm so like, I'm so like, oh, that's me. That's gonna be me if I'm stuck on a fucking island. I hate fish, and that's all we'll have to fucking eat, and I'll be the guy going, I'll just choke it down. It's burning.

Robb 58:35
Would you rather eat the bug?

Clif 58:37
Yeah, I know.

Marty 58:41
The boar it out. The best meat they said they ever had the boar. Yeah, the boar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:47
It I'm a wild pig.

Clif 58:49
I liked the boar kill. I I I thought it was fucking scary and magnificent and fun and gross. It had it had all the harm hallmarks of Raimi through and through. It was hor it was kind of horrifying and scary, but it was also little three stooges, and it was also fucking gross at the same time. It's like, it's like, you know, the drag me to hell gags and vibes all over again.

SPEAKER_04 59:10
It's kind of the most uh it's kind of the most thing in the in the movie. Yeah.

Clif 59:14
That and the um the other Raimi thing is the uh the super Raimi thing is the fucking guy who gets his tie caught on the plane as he's being sucked out, and he just slams he's slamming his face into the plane and she just fucking lowers the shade. I was just like, that is so rainy.

Marty 59:29
That is so early on, too, you know, that she's gonna be like, fuck these assholes.

Robb 59:34
Well, what's she gonna do? I I'd say it does establish exactly what she does. It's not so much that she doesn't care, but he can't help you. The worst thing you could do would be to watch, right? Like, all right, well, I'm just not gonna watch. That's normal.

Marty 59:48
Yeah, I can't bear Raimi and then director of photography, Bill Pope, and then Danny Elfman doing the score. So the three of them have worked together many times, so you get that vibe back.

Robb 59:59
The score really stood out to me. Maybe I'd have to look at it. It's subtle.

Clif 1:00:01
I mean, it really didn't stand out much. I agree, but it is it is very subtle. I thought the dude was not very bright. You know, I guess I guess that's sort of I guess that's sort of established early on where he's just a nepo baby who's inherited in space.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13
He can't do anything, he can't even spell.

Clif 1:00:16
Yeah, yeah. You're right. Hell Heppel, yeah. I mean, he's but it's just my god, that you're you're trapped on an island with a with a woman that you know you've treated like shit and doesn't fuck probably fucking like you, you've got a bad injury, she's taking care of you, and all you can think to do is just act like a complete fucking asshole. Like that's your answer. Like, do you have no Dunning Kruger, man? Do you have no fucking human skills at all?

Robb 1:00:37
Man, Dunning Kruger effect. One, he's he's always gotten what he's wanted by bullying and bossing people around. But also, Dunning Kruger effect, he does no idea he's an idiot, right? I mean, he he thinks he's very, very smart, and I think that's shown where he's like.

Clif 1:00:51
Well, then if he thinks he's very, very smart, then he would try something other than being a dickhead, he would try some other tact, right? Like smart people or people who think they're smart at least try things. I mean, the guy's just a dick throughout the whole fucking movie. He does, but he fails until later, yeah. When he's trying to kill her, sure. Then he then he starts to try and be wily. But in the beginning, he's trying to survive, he's trying to build his own place, and that doesn't work.

Robb 1:01:14
He's nice to her for quite a bit there in between, while he's so he can earn her trust so he can poison. Well, I think it's so he can earn her trust to poison her, and he's been secretly building a raft somewhere.

Clif 1:01:30
Another great gross-out moment is is her dragging him in from the raft and puking all over him. Holy shit.

Robb 1:01:35
Marty, let me object to that. This is also an area objection. Uh, this you are not on trial here, sir. The film is this is an uh uh an environment where I think the weather turns on a dime, but preparing this meal probably took hours and hours, especially if he I think it was mushrooms, he put it. So he would have to pick them fresh, prepare them secretly. It would have taken a lot of work, and then suddenly, halfway during the preparation, I'm making dinner, this poison donor, and the weather turns. What's he supposed to do? She's already gonna eat it, you're already gonna expect it. You just kind of have to go with it. Those waves were looking pretty bad, but not maybe not when they began cooking dinner. I mean, you're talking about building a whole fire.

Clif 1:02:16
Listen, listen, what he needed was a cool buzz to go with those tasty waves. That's what he needed.

Marty 1:02:22
And he didn't have it, so he couldn't fucking get off the air. Well, he did have a special skill, and that skill was keeping his stubble at the same length without a shave for the entire duration that he was there because he didn't trust her enough to get go get that knife next to his face to shave him down. So he did know how to keep that stallone cobra flocked look perfectly flocked portion of the film.

Clif 1:02:45
Very true, very true. Yeah, very true. I did I did very much like the fact that it seemed it felt to me on the move in the film, because she's into Survivor and you know that type of stuff, and and she's got those wilderness books and blah blah blah, that she it felt like when she hit the island and started to kind of dominate him and kind of get used to surviving and get her camp set up and all that, she really started to come into her own and thrive as a person, you know, and like when suddenly she's getting prettier, and then of course later on you find out, oh, that's because she's probably going to taking showers with conditioner and shampoo in the fucking, you know, in the fucking house. She's but she's happier and she seems much more optimistic and cleaner diet.

Robb 1:03:22
All of that's gonna make her look better. But she the the she looks the best at the very end when half her face is bloody and the other's covered in mud. That's like her peak in this entire movie. Uh you know, like the the makeup is or the mud is doing like a makeup contrast effect. Um and it's doing great. And of course, all that mud is doing wonders for her pores. Right. Right, of course. Her body is purged to microplastics.

Clif 1:03:52
Um uh let's see, what was the other note I had here? It was uh no, the CGI spiders. Did you guys catch the uh where we're in the cave and we the the camera pushes right through the CGI spiders and the CGI spider web? That's a direct Spider-Man reference. Has to be.

Marty 1:04:14
It is would be. I didn't even think of that till just now. Oh, this is the guy.

Clif 1:04:19
This is the guy that had the highest grossing film with Amazing Spider-Man back in the day. Spider-Man. Well, it's just Spider-Man. Spider-Man, sorry.

Marty 1:04:26
That's the other guy. I know there's so many of them that we have to be and one day there'll be a web of Spider-Man and a spectacular Spider-Man and a Spider-Man 2099.

Robb 1:04:36
I really I really like his MCU movie too. I love Doctor Strange and the You know, I still haven't seen that one.

Marty 1:04:41
That's the only one of his movies I haven't seen.

Robb 1:04:42
Uh if you go in wanting to see a Sam Raimi kind of MCU movie, I think it delivers. When Doctor Strange becomes like yeah, yeah, I don't want to spoil too much, but there's definitely there's moments I think they could have done a lot more with the multiverse stuff. I think they do too small a segment with it. But um I also blame WandaVision a bit for not making Wanda evil enough by the end of it to go into that movie. Um I think that show really needed to drive her all the way to villainy, and it only got halfway. Um it was more about grief than villainy. Well, she does villainous things through grief, but ultimately there's an antagonist that it can be blamed on that she has to defeat rather than being a good thing. That's what I mean. Exactly. She needs to become the antagonist, which is what's going on.

Clif 1:05:29
That's what I mean. She's she's not doing it of evil, she's doing it out of like necessity and grief or whatever.

Robb 1:05:34
And that's not quite the way it's done in the way it's done in the Raimi movie at all. She's she's a lot you could say she's a lot more far gone, but I would have rather have seen her I'd rather have seen her get all the way to the edge in the show so she could be at the edge when the movie began. Because there's a gap in between we never see where she's like much crazier.

Marty 1:05:52
That'll be two division, right? Script is from 2019, so it has been kicking around. The bit. The cutting off his ball scene was one of my favorites.

Clif 1:06:05
Oh, I'm so glad that it was just I'm so glad it was just a rat. She told him you can't you're not gonna feel anything or be able to move. So it's like when that when that blood hits his face, his fucking. Oh fucking Jesus Christ, she's gonna she's gonna do Annie from misery on his ass, right? Yeah, that's true too. Uh I loved the hand sticking out of the sand. I think she did that shit on purpose to drive him. Like this is the point where she's like that's a very evil dead shot to the hand.

Marty 1:06:38
Wait, not evil dead, not evil dad.

Robb 1:06:42
Jaws.

Marty 1:06:43
I was gonna say, talk to me.

Robb 1:06:45
Jaws, dead woman hand hanging out of the sand sticking out of the room. Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:48
Okay.

Clif 1:06:52
Uh I was so relieved when it was a rat, though. I'm like my relief was I was just like, oh thank god it's a rat. She didn't, he didn't actually.

Marty 1:07:04
It's both.

Clif 1:07:05
Both. I'm just I don't want to see that happen to any person on screen either of either gender, but I I just it was just a relief, anyways. Um I expected the boar to make a comeback in the film and it didn't. Like I thought for sure.

Robb 1:07:17
Anyone in any movie, like you you just mentioned, I spit on your grave, and I was pretty okay with it happening there.

Clif 1:07:22
All right. Well, there's there are some exceptions. Well, yeah, um, but it's not like this dude had gone and done what the guy's got. Exactly. I agree.

Robb 1:07:29
He had not he had not gone to a uh a place where he uh deserved that.

Clif 1:07:35
So I thought I thought the the girlfriend showing up was fucking weird. I just thought that was fucking weird. Um, but I love the fact that she died and affected her her hands sticking up in the beach and and everything. It was fucking, you know, and her claiming telling him it was an accident, you know, it was fucking great.

Marty 1:07:52
Yeah, the whole movie to me, it felt like an anthology story that was a feature length. Like this could have been a Tales from the Crypt or a Creep Show type thing, but they made the whole movie out of it. And that's where you would have like the girlfriend happens to find the one spot where the Sure, sure, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:10
Well, I mean, happens to enjoy it though, but it had that vibe.

Robb 1:08:14
It struck me that they had been island hopping for quite a bit, and this has been weeks. So now the fact that they were just pulling up while she's on the beach, there's the coincidence.

Clif 1:08:25
Like that's yeah, it's just a little it's just a little a little too perfect, but exactly.

Robb 1:08:32
It's a little too perfect. It would have been just as easy for them to be already on the beach walking through the jungle, and she kind of finds them. You know, it's easy for her to still intercept them before she the other guy you know meets them, but so let me ask you this real quick.

Clif 1:08:49
Well, ask last thing before we get to scoring this. So who in this movie, who are you rooting for? Oh, Rachel McAdams, a thousand percent. Are you rooting for Rachel McAdams? Marty, who are you rooting for? Uh the Boar.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03
Definitely not rooting for the boar. I'm not rooting for the boar, the boar started it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:09
No, you're supposed to root for Rachel McAdams, right? Yeah, absolutely. Uh I I mean about anyone I'm supposed to root for the person who killed two innocent people.

Clif 1:09:21
It's like a horror comic, right? Like a Yeah, it's it's like it's it's a it's one of those where it's like it's you I walk, I finished the movie. I was like, I like that. And I was kind of happy that she she drives off with her bird, but at the same time, I'm like, this is a person that's killed three fucking people, and I'm like happy that they did.

Marty 1:09:36
It's the anti drag me to hell. She gets away with it, right? Uh okay, okay.

Clif 1:09:41
Yeah, okay. The devil doesn't come to drag her down to hell. Okay.

Robb 1:09:44
Right. Um, I'll say, as far as the guy, he tried to kill her first, right? Was gonna leave her on that island. True. So that's fine.

Clif 1:09:52
Girlfriend was innocent. Poor fucking guy who probably had a wife and kids who's dragged.

Robb 1:09:57
I disagree about the girlfriend being uh innocent anyway. Uh what the fuck did she do?

Clif 1:10:04
I mean, she's just rich and she's got a giant fucking diamond ring. Fuck her. Correct.

Robb 1:10:09
Yes. I don't want to say that, but that is the answer. That's that is why. Um, you know, you know she doesn't love him because there's nothing to love, so she's kind of a gold digger, she's kind of nasty. Now the captain's innocent. I gotta give you the captain is innocent. Um did she push the captain? The captain slip? I kind of can't. Oh, she hit him in the head with a fucking rock. Oh, well, okay, well, wait a minute. She was stretching with a rock in her hand and he got in the way next to a cliff. It was hot yoga day. A lot of people.

Clif 1:10:47
We just didn't say we can't we can't decide her motivations. Somebody get George C. Scott for the prosecution immediately. God damn it. Um sorry.

Robb 1:11:03
I I so you first off, you asked me who I'm rooting for. Yes, you didn't ask me if there's a good guy. That's right. And I don't think there is, but I would say a a bad world turned Rachel McAdams, who was a good person, into a bad person, because bad people are the ones that thrive. And it turns out she was better at being bad than those bad people. Horrible bosses. And so now she thrives. Uh, you know, Law of the Jungle, Survival of the Fittest, whatever you want to call it.

Clif 1:11:31
Um, outwit, outplay. Yeah, my my entire point was that I think that you know there is no real hero of the movie. The character's morally ambiguous. Well, okay, wait. Well, how does the movie how does the movie end? The movie ends with her being a celebrity and driving off with her bird with her.

Robb 1:11:48
Ends the movie rich. So she wasn't gonna get rich by not committing.

Clif 1:11:52
So she so she becomes not how you get rich and hated Cliff.

Robb 1:11:55
Nobody's nobody who's rich hasn't committed crimes. They're rich through crimes.

Clif 1:12:00
So she committed crimes so that she could become the thing that she hated. Correct. The thing that tormented her. She wants to do that because she's gonna do it differently now that she's rich. Well, she's not gonna do it differently at all.

Robb 1:12:10
Like Americans. If you don't if you can't beat them, Joe.

Clif 1:12:12
Why the fuck am I rooting for her?

Marty 1:12:14
Uh she's the one that's alive. Like the plan. I'm just glad somebody was taking care of her bird while she was on the islands.

Robb 1:12:20
I was thinking that too. Nobody was taking care of that goddamn bird. That bird is dead. I it was a note that you didn't just buy another bird, guys. I mean, she's not the money.

Clif 1:12:29
It's the same thing with a gold. She just got a new one. Right.

Robb 1:12:34
Cockatials are not that much.

Marty 1:12:36
Oh, so when you add champagne to an egg, it's called a champagne flip to go back to the other movie. Because remember, it's an egg. It's disgusting. I had to look that up.

Robb 1:12:45
It's called get the fuck out of my kitchen, Marty. Garlic salt. It's you're not, it's called you're not making breakfast anymore, Marty.

Clif 1:12:54
You're gonna need garlic salt?

Robb 1:12:56
It'll be frothy. All right, so what do you give it? Me out of five, I'm giving it a four. I am fucking right there with you. I'm I am right there with you. I I don't know what would take it up more. I could see, I don't know if you guys do 2.5s. I could see doing it. Yeah, you can do 0.5.

Clif 1:13:15
Yeah, yeah. If you want to do a four and a half, I don't know if I want.

Robb 1:13:17
I don't I don't know. I want to go all the way to four and a half. I just want to crank maybe to like 2.5, uh, 4.2.5. Uh 4.25. But four.

Marty 1:13:26
Right. Seven and three quarters.

Robb 1:13:28
Because I love the way it it teases the romantic comedy, but it's like, oh no, of course not. You know, but they they really try to pull that out and then they go all the way kind of the horrible crazy with it. Um, you know, it's right for Rami. I think you're right that there is a moral ambiguity. Um, she did have to become kind of what she didn't want to be, you know. But Raimi doesn't always have happy endings, like we talked about dragging me to hell. He doesn't see a lot in his movies turning into what you just doesn't smile at the end when she looks at the camera and looks at you. It's a devious, dangerous stare. You're looking at a dangerous person, and that is what the film is apt. You've everyone who is dead now underestimated her, and if you do it too, you're wrong. So I am going 4.5. I am going all the way. I'm gonna crank it up, fat baby Jones, 4.5.

Clif 1:14:16
All right.

unknown 1:14:16
All right.

Clif 1:14:17
I'm going four for sure. It's a four. I'm gonna reserve the right to possibly go four point five. I think this is one of his best horror movies. Um, as far as you know, the one of the getting out of his early sort of uh need to overcome low budget and just being wildly fucking creative. He's taken all that and tempered it into this fucking awesome directing style, going all the way from Spider-Man into this. And uh but I'm a big fan of Drag Me to Hell too. I love that movie. I think it's fucking insane. So uh I liked this quite a bit. Send help four, maybe four and a half.

Marty 1:14:49
It's nice that uh he's that Raimi is able to make movies uh un uncontrolled again, like because when he was first starting to make mainstream films like Darkman, he was quoted as saying things like, I have to figure out how not to do the X-rayed at gore and stuff and be a mainstream movie. And now you can do both. And it's a huge success, so it's come full circle for him. It does kind of feel like Space Truckers a little bit, where it was like, Oh, we got Stuart Gordon, you gotta have the head given head scene. So it was almost like, Well, I want a Raimi movie and it's horror, it's gotta have certain aspects to it. But I think he balanced it well. I give it a three and a half. I think it's in the top half of his films, definitely. So I enjoyed it. A little long, a little long. I thought maybe maybe about 10 minutes or so too long, but I still didn't very much. What would you have cut? You know, I'd have to go back and watch it again. It'd probably be little things here and there to make the pacing a little better, but it's all good character development, too.

Clif 1:15:51
So I'm honestly excited to watch it again because I'm I'm it's one of these movies where I'm wondering what I'm gonna pick up on. Now that I know it, I'm like, ooh, what am I gonna pick on as she is she giving certain looks that I missed?

Robb 1:16:03
Is you know, this type of thing, and and you know, I think when you do, you'll see more of what I was mentioning earlier about where I think the plan is a lot sooner.

Clif 1:16:12
I think I think or I'll just see that you're completely wrong. I mean, it could be both, it could be either way, bro. You never know. It's there's a first time for everything, and we take them to court.

Robb 1:16:22
No, Marty, don't try to prosecute Send help.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:25
It'll be cocaine bear all over again.

Clif 1:16:29
Oh, he really hated cocaine bear. He thought he had a he thought he had a he thought he had a home run with that one.

Robb 1:16:34
We love cocaine bear. He's a massive practice.

Clif 1:16:40
Thanks so much for coming on the show, buddy. You always you always bring a I like that you bring you you always bring a your own vision to it, and you I always like the fact that you're you have a conviction about what you're what you're going after. You're like, nope, this is what I think, and that's because sometimes you can talk people out of it, right? Rob's very much like you're not talking me out of shit.

Robb 1:16:57
Fuck that dude. That's fine. I feel like I'm the most flexible on the court. I feel like I'm the guy you're gonna talk to you're gonna be the most likely to talk into things. Yeah, no, I mean yeah, yeah.

Clif 1:17:06
You know, we're just opinions about a movie or whatever when we're when we're chatting, is what I meant. But yeah, no, you're you're you're super flexible in the court. You do listen to the arguments for sure. You got anything you want to plug?

Robb 1:17:17
Uh well, like we mentioned we we got we got Reels of Justice uh chugging along. We've got a lot of great things. Um got a Pearl got a Pearl Jam uh parody cover coming up for you, Marty. I know Pearl Jam. Oh wow. So uh that'll be that's coming up on a future episode, so you can enjoy that. Um I don't know if I don't know if we're gonna have more trailer trash come out, but people can check out um trailer trash apostrophe D on YouTube. And uh we watch trailers and we get trashed. And there's a huge backlog on there, um, but we haven't done one in like a few months. So, but um it's kind of when the weather turns nice and that thing's uh we it's kind of a riffing show. Uh like we watch a trailer and we kind of riff, but like we really just improv it, uh and we get we get very we do get very drunk. So uh like so that's kind of often I haven't done too many because well what's interesting is you can see kind of the way I'm dressed, how they're done in batches, and so kind of the way they're released sort of suggests how deep we get in the bag, and so towards the end of those batches, we're just exhausted at time because it will be like almost a solid hour of recording, but we'll have done several drinks to get through it, and it's quite heroic. Um, so you gotta be in the right space for it, the right headspace for it. So maybe we'll get some more done. Um they're kind of fun. Um and uh and you can always catch me on appearances all over the Slenzo verse.

Clif 1:18:52
Like this one right here, folks.

Robb 1:18:53
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Catch me on Talking Pondo right now.

Clif 1:18:58
This episode you guys want to get out of here on a quote?

Marty 1:19:08
I wouldn't ride with you if you were the last man on earth. I'm working on it.

Clif 1:19:15
Rob, you got your what are you gonna do, your quiet earth?

Robb 1:19:19
Uh yes, let's oh, um uh I'm gonna do from send help. I uh have you ever done any hunting? I think I think is what she says.

Clif 1:19:28
Yeah, and then she says, I think I like it. I like it. Yeah, my ultimate quote. Yeah.

Robb 1:19:33
Oh, I I got it. Excellent.

Clif 1:19:35
Uh my quote is, it was an accident. I swear to you. Anyway, let's get out of here. Rob, thanks again, buddy. Uh next anytime. Later.