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Talk Dirty To Me
BONUS EPISODE 2: Kacey Goes To Degradation Bootcamp with Tosin
Kacey takes a few rounds practicing degrading Tosin with some sage words of wisdom from the kink oracle
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Speaker 2:Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk Dirty To Me, the podcast where four friends with four different perspectives talk dirty to one another. And today we have Tosin Aoufesso, your kink oracle. Ahoy, you have me. Casey, your neighborhood neighborhood, your neighborhood Femme, dom Femme.
Speaker 1:Dom.
Speaker 2:I got it. I got there. Stephanie Slayton, our queen of spankles, will be joining us shortly and Sarah Marie is out because her husband's birthday was today. So Tosin and I are going to get us started, and we were just having a really lovely conversation about lingerie and he noticed that, on FetLife, lingerie as a kink is what was. It was more popular than you expected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, number nine and I was like.
Speaker 2:I mean, I get nine out of what like nine out of all of them. Oh, like literally on the infinite list of kinks on FetLife lingerie is number nine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nine, nine. Most amount of people have added lingerie as their king. I see oral sex being number one, which makes sense. That's a good one. Hair pulling is number two.
Speaker 2:Number five, number five, oh it goes that way Bondage, oral sex, bondage, spanking, anal sex, hair pulling, toys, talking dirty. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, here she is, the queen of spankles, stephanie Slayton. The crowd goes wild.
Speaker 3:Thanks guys.
Speaker 2:Tosin and. I were just having a discussion before we started recording that. I insist, we started recording on about lingerie because apparently it is the number nine on. The most most popular kink on FetLife is lingerie.
Speaker 3:Oral sex. So is that them in order Oral sex bondage, spanking, anal sex hair pulling toys talking dirty.
Speaker 2:The third most popular one Blindfolds, lingerie, breast, nipple play, handcuffs, biting ass play, sex and public discipline, mutual masturbation, role play, collar and lead slash leash, masturbation, candle wax that's the first 20. Some of these I wonder if they're really kinks Like is masturbation a kink?
Speaker 1:I mean, it depends on how you do it.
Speaker 2:But how would masturbation be a kink?
Speaker 3:People like people do like to like watch others masturbate, so would that be what they were talking about?
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be voyeurism?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I'm trying to think. I mean, like if you masturbate preferable to like sex, I guess that would make it kinky, like I prefer to masturbate than to other sexual activity. That will make it kinky.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But like the things that, the ones that surprise me is like there are so many spanking ones.
Speaker 3:Like I don't think. I thought I was weirdo, I'm so normal 1,427,000 people agree. That's just on FetLife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like that's not including the 590 for bare bottom spanking, 596 for bare handed spanking.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I'm going to read the 6700 for discipline. I'm going to read the next set. Oh, did I miss discipline.
Speaker 1:I did text.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. So after that, according to FetLife, the next most popular ones are rough sex, face fucking, domination, deep throating, multiple orgasms Is that a fennel? Bare bottom, spanking, threesomes, kissing Is that a fetish? Gang bangs, bare handed spanking, cuddles, erotic photography, master slash, slave, butt plugs, vibrators, rimming, exhibitionism, dildos, making home movies, strap ons I'm not sure kissing can be a fetish.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm dubious about this list.
Speaker 2:It's just like naming things.
Speaker 1:I mean it's just, it's just organized by whether you add how many people have added this kink to their profile, so like there's not a vetting system. But I mean like that's some, it's valuable information that like more than this people. But I agree, like I wouldn't say I wouldn't call cuddles being a fetish.
Speaker 2:No cuddles or kissing, it's more. It's more like a fetish. If you don't like kissing, yeah.
Speaker 3:Or or I guess, or I guess or kissing makes you come, I guess.
Speaker 1:That would be a feat or guys are from makeouts.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah, insane. Anyways, we were talking about lingerie. Orgasming from makeouts Is your new life goal? Like with or without rubbing.
Speaker 1:Just get immaculate, immaculate orgasms from kissing.
Speaker 2:I love it no no, no hand stuff. My movie.
Speaker 1:Is it where, josh?
Speaker 3:Hartnett. Josh Hartnett just makes a girl come. I think he's just rubbing a flower. She's fully clothed. What is that movie? 40 days and 40 nights. Maybe because he's given up sex man, maybe I'm way off, but he literally it's just energy and she has an orgasm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 40 days and 40 nights.
Speaker 3:I would like that that would be, great man I.
Speaker 1:I don't know of a like mainstream movie that I've masturbated two more than 40 days and 40 nights.
Speaker 2:Really, you really have to watch this movie.
Speaker 1:There's a lot in it. That's just was hot to me at the time.
Speaker 3:It's such an like early 2000s film. I bet it's got 26% on rotten tomatoes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we were talking about lingerie because that is apparently very popular. I know several people that are really into lingerie as a fetish and I love that. I would like to find a man that's super into lingerie as a fetish because it's glorious. But, tosen, you were saying I was saying that there's this like it's ridiculous, because there's this $1,000 bordello dress that I covet but I can't bring myself to get it because it's $1,000. And then you outed. You said that you bought an $1,100 corset for a partner.
Speaker 1:Did, I did find a $1,100. Well, I'm buying, I'm paying in payments, yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:inspired this purchase for her them. They wanted it.
Speaker 1:So it was. It was the first time I went with to to Imzel the international Miss Boo Black and Leather one, and so they had like a vendor station and a custom court. Leather corset making shop called Dark Garden was selling like custom corsets and so they got fitted for one and we're like daddy can I have it? Can I have it? I'm like yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Whoa. So it's just, they just asked for it and you got it for them.
Speaker 1:That was like it was also pretty to remember the trip Like I was, like they knew, like I was, like I'm coming to the trip with this amount of money, you know you can have whatever you want until I don't have it anymore. And so though, since they had payment plans for it, it was like fine.
Speaker 2:What was the amount of money that you came there ready to spend on her?
Speaker 1:2K.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:What yeah, On top of the that's after registration in the hotels and stuff.
Speaker 2:So do you love this? Do you love like was it a daddy relationship and you love providing like that, like you think it's sexy and fun, just to be like, let me shower you with things.
Speaker 1:It's, it is a. It is a grand time. Yeah, I, I think it's great. You know, in in like caregiving situations, it's just fun to like make someone that happy and like get them the whatever they want. Like that's just fun to do. And I'm I'm in a situation now where it's like, if I plan for it, I can do Princess days or ball outrageous. But yeah, no, I'd love it. You know, I generally enjoy making people happy. Like you know, pleasuring people has always been the center of what all of my kinks are. In general, though, I have been like super jamming, discipline and degradation, which has less to do with making people happy.
Speaker 3:But I like it.
Speaker 1:They like it too, which is I wouldn't really enjoy it if it is something that they don't enjoy in real life yeah. But yeah, yeah it's. It's fun to make people happy in our cards.
Speaker 2:That's so cool. I love that for her.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Listen the amount of subs that you're gathering, casey somebody will one of them is going to be like take all my money. Where are the things?
Speaker 2:I hope so. That would be amazing. Speaking of subs, so I have this gentleman who has asked me to pee on him. I mentioned that right, pee and spit, and I have been. People of late have been shocked at how kind I am. I've gotten that comment a lot recently, and twice from subs, which makes me think I'm doing it wrong. So I decided with this one that I'm going to not be my usual self when he comes over. Maybe you guys can help me brainstorm. Like I think it would be weird for me to have him come in and be like hello, how are you, take off your pants, here's a Toronto pepper. Like right, but like just be a completely different person when he comes into the room, who is a degrader and just kind of an asshole, I don't, instead of being like here's the pool, get out of there, I'm going to pee on you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I support that wholly, I think because you were conversed enough. That's probably something he'd love.
Speaker 2:I think so. Yeah, I'm trying to get on a phone call with him. I have been a bad communicator with him lately, unintentionally, and I think that if I could chat about it with him that we would probably have a really great conversation. However, beyond spitting and peeing, I didn't know, like Tosemite, you have some hot tips on degradation and like what else can go into a session like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's. There's usually two lines for degradation, so picking the like version of it that you want is good. So there's like humiliation, which is like the way that I'm degrading you is by making you do humiliating things for my own amusement, right? So that's like go lick toilet seats, go stand with your butt in the air outside, you know, wear this outfit that makes you look silly, and then just like taking pleasure in humiliating them. And then there's the degradation form. That's like telling the person that they're worthless, right, which is the one I enjoy receiving.
Speaker 1:So those are along the lines of like you know, you're less than human. I'd never pay attention to you. There's no reason for you to like if you want a part of my body, so bad, the only thing you're going to get is my spit and urine. You stupid little small cocked idiot like those type of that type of stuff. And so, you know, one of the things that I say to people all the time is I was like if you're searching for what to say, like, if you're like I don't know what to say, just you know, give yourself the freedom to say the things that you held back to someone you are upset with, right, like take. Try to find one of those memories where it's like. You know, it's like man. If I wasn't a nice person, I would have said XYZ.
Speaker 2:What a fucking waste of time you are. That's all I got, but go harder, harder, go harder. I'm really honest with you right now, your penis is really dissatisfying. I've been disappointed this whole time.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's still like nice.
Speaker 3:What have you ever watched? Have you ever like watched Dom like porn?
Speaker 3:No, but I also think it's a little cheesy. It is, as is most porn. At the same time it can give you ideas and then you can go in there with your acting abilities and make them more real. But you can get the idea of like phrasing. I think phrasing for most kinks, most kinks have like some kind of triggering phrase that are multiple different ones and you know, then you would just kind of tailor it to that person, like go to their profile and see fetishes and turn on, we'll have things like in the spango world, like do you need a spanking young lady?
Speaker 3:Like that would be like a kink, like that's like a phrase that like a lot of people would. Or young man. You can switch them out, but I just think you could get like ideas from that too. That's true.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about this? How embarrassing for you to be naked in front of me right now.
Speaker 1:It's good, it's good.
Speaker 3:You're still the like gentle, like you're going to kill someone by screaching, what am I supposed to?
Speaker 1:do Screech.
Speaker 3:What Yell at them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it depends, right, like I don't mind, I am a calm Dom as well, like I much prefer being like sit down, and I hope I don't have to repeat myself again type of domination over you mother Like yeah.
Speaker 2:Like that doesn't feel as I'd rather be silent and commanding yeah.
Speaker 1:I think the thing that you'll find like easy to latch onto is like you're not. You're not worth my presence and attention. And then just like coloring that and I'm like like what made you think that you could request this of me? Like why do you think that you're worthy of my attention? You don't have this. You can't do this. I was not able to do this and I was like look, do you think it's possible, with a cock that small, to please someone of my caliber? Let alone, anybody at all.
Speaker 1:And I was like is that what you thought was going to happen. If you want to be anywhere near my vagina, you know what? You can just have my urine and a hope and pray one day that you'll be able to, like get anywhere near it, you know, bottle that up and smell it, because with the pathetic way that you are right, like that.
Speaker 2:Dose it Dang yeah.
Speaker 1:I peruse a couple of degradation reddits and that's how I get that out sometimes. So I help out the lady because I'm lyrically gifted.
Speaker 2:That was good. I like that. You think you can please a woman of my caliber with a penis that tiny. How embarrassing for you. I was going to be fun. I can't wait. So embarrassing for you. I bet women laugh at you. I do.
Speaker 1:And usually if you're in the situation, it depends on who it is, but if you're in that situation like, the person will respond right. So as they respond, it helps you dig deeper. Like just being like I usually. I usually go for either beg or fawn if I'm being on the recipient end, so I'll. I'll either be like I was like well, I'll do anything, I'll go get something to make my penis bigger, like whatever you need, or I'll be like, yeah, you're right, I am pathetic, and so that helps encourage like digging for it.
Speaker 3:Because the one that's wanting the spitting in the urine Casey is. Does he like pain as well, or does he just like degradation?
Speaker 2:I mean he's into a little bit of pain, because I've spanked him a few times and he was like oh, I like that, but he's not super into pain. Anyways, so spitting, slapping, peeing, degrading, I think it'll be really fun. I wish I could take a degradation class.
Speaker 1:Well I mean look you practice on me, I'll come over. You can say mean shit to me.
Speaker 2:Okay, you can say mean shit to me, casey, it's going to be a really nice mean shit.
Speaker 1:Ah, I mean, that's the fun. Actually, the fun part for me, like especially when I do it with people that I know is because I really like watching the journey of like them sinking like into their fiend.
Speaker 2:Into their fiend yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it, like almost every degradation scene that I have been on the receiving end in you know, starts with and I was like you're pitiful, look at you, you're you'll never please a woman I don't like even like.
Speaker 1:Looking at you and you can see them like the cracks start to like fall off and then they like get into it and they like they go to this interesting, powerful place and by the end of it they're saying awful things and it's so, so good, Right, and I love watching that happen. And I also think it's like really, really intimate, especially when it's like people like you and I we've been friends forever, we love each other, it's perfectly where we would never say mean things to each other at all, and the amount of trust that's required to get to the place where you're saying things to me that are awful is like really intimate. It's like a lot of trust is there. It's like a really deep thing to pull off, to be like we trust each other, to like get to a dark shadow, we place a humanity and dance around in it.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's very fun. First of all, can you take it off? Shared screen.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, it's also making me think too, casey, of like I'm thinking of two different people right now, and let's say they were into degradation. Like, let's say, casey, there was a way for you to like give them a questionnaire and like one of the things you could ask them are there things in your life you want to change about yourself? Are there things you'd want to work on and like, for instance, if someone was like hey, I still live at home with my parents and I don't want to live there anymore, I know that, casey, that you and your gut know exactly what to say to that person, and so you just do it, and it probably will be the most liberating, incredible things You're going to get to tell these people exactly what you have to tip toe around to like tell a good friend. If you're like, you know a good friend is falling off. I think you could just find their weaknesses and just dig into that. That is a good idea.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing that people want to write Like if you're healthily engaging in it, like I want you to hit the things that are that I have been self-conscious about before. Like for me, the reason I like receiving degradation is because that conversation makes more sense than the ways that I have been like ignored and put off in other places. Like the ways people are saying to me like, oh, it's not you, it's me, and you know it's just. Like, you're just a friend and I don't want to be in a relationship. I'm not ready for those types of things. And I was just like, oh, I'm busy, I don't have time, All those types of things. Like I can tell that there's more information than that and I would want to know what it is.
Speaker 1:And then degradation scenes. It would feel I would have better closure with those people if they had just been like you're fat, your hair, you smell. I don't like your face, I don't like the way that. I don't like the way that you move. I don't think you'll ever be satisfied. Fine, Enough me, You're not hot enough. Like I was. Like those conversations would make more sense to me. What's happening in a degradation scene is you're telling me that you don't want me around, but I'm around.
Speaker 1:And I was like I think there's, there's a, there's a scene I think it's Mr and Mrs Smith that actually kind of got me there where they're like hate, fight, fucking, and so like I like that dynamic of like the way that someone's trying to resist the temptation to be with me is by like degrading and yelling at me and saying mean things, but like you can tell that their attention is on me and so just that whole game, that whole circle is swirl, is fun.
Speaker 2:Okay, how about this? You tell me a thing that you liked me degraded. I'm going to try it live on the podcast for a minute. Three rounds for a minute. You can give me notes after each one.
Speaker 1:Okay, three rounds for a minute, so we can go. I'm trying to pick something simpler, let's do, not being attractive enough for you.
Speaker 2:Hold on, let me open up my timer. I'm so nervous, I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1:You're fine. It's great, it will, it's gonna you want this timer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's great. Okay, stephanie's holding up a timer.
Speaker 1:That's. That's so much time.
Speaker 2:This is your. There really is a lot of timer. This is. You're not attractive enough for me, right? Okay, great, all right, stephanie, it's on you. Nothing's happening on the timer. Oh, there it is.
Speaker 1:It's. It's a 30. It's a one. Do we want to do 30 minutes? I was just going to do it. I was just going to do it by myself.
Speaker 3:I was just going to do it. I was just going to do it by a minute, but you've already. We're at 30 seconds All right.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I got this. I got this. There's nobody here but us. It's fine.
Speaker 3:Also, you can totally start with that laugh and just make it be laughing at them, okay, good.
Speaker 2:That's a good call. I'm going to do it. Are you looking at me right now? I bet you think that I'm really sexy, don't you?
Speaker 1:You are really really really hot yeah.
Speaker 2:You're really fucking gross. Oh yeah, nobody. Nobody like you could get with a person like me ever, because you're disgusting, you're stupid and you smell bad and I don't want to have anything to do with that.
Speaker 1:Can I, like, I'll try, like I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll try to fuck me.
Speaker 2:That would be awesome, I don't think you know how to get a dick into a vagina. That would just be embarrassing for you. You probably don't have much of a penis to you.
Speaker 1:I mean it's there. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't imagine you being able to get into the right position to be able to put it inside of a vagina. Have you ever been used it before? I mean, you might have thought you used it before, but you were probably using it wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I guess I, I people aren't paying a lot of it, but I would. I would really love to try, like you're really hot. I don't want you to touch me.
Speaker 2:I don't want you to touch me. I'd have to like shower afterwards and get you off me in some capacity is probably much harder than I'm anticipating, because your odor probably just lingers, doesn't it? Yeah, do your friends hold their breath around you? They probably don't tell you that they do, but they probably keep their distance and you don't really know why. You probably get really quick hugs, don't you? Nobody really holds you like you'd like to be held, because you're a bag of garbage.
Speaker 1:I mean, okay, if I'll like, I'll go get it. I just really still trying.
Speaker 2:That's so cute. That's so cute and pathetic. You're disgusting and pathetic. You're just going to stand here.
Speaker 1:That was three minutes, good job.
Speaker 2:Tosin, I love you because you had you like this tiny smile on your face like this tiny deviant smile. You'd be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I love it. I was just like you know it's. It's difficult currently, for I can't do my normal response to what occurs when that occurs, because there are people watching and their normal response is to masturbate.
Speaker 3:Oh, so thank you for that. We didn't clear that up for beforehand.
Speaker 1:No, because normally what I do, what I like I'm requesting in those scenes is like I will push to be like you know, I'm so pathetic, why is this turning me on? And that turns usually turns into like oh, like, normally. When you said, it was like I don't even know if you know how to use it, and I was like well, you know, I'm kind of I'm getting hard right now and it was like I'll show you it's like, and so then they'll just make fun of me and do that until we're done, and then it's, it's big fun.
Speaker 2:Where was I? On the scale of one to awesome degradation, I'm going to guess I'm going to put it at a four.
Speaker 3:Oh no it was better.
Speaker 1:It was definitely better. Yeah, I would say it sounded to me.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be honest. It sounded to me like you also wanted to fuck him. So that's lovely and great, but are you going to want to give that vibe off to?
Speaker 2:you Did I sound like I wanted to fuck you too, and I think that's just my voice. To me it was like sexual chemistry.
Speaker 3:To me it looked to me it was. I was getting the Mr and Mrs Smith thing, which they did want to fuck each other. So, like that's, my only thing is like almost be careful about being like oh, you think you want to fuck me Because? Do you want to say that to them? Cause, then that scares me because I don't know these guys. And what if it's like a? She said yes.
Speaker 2:She said yes. She said yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am definitely like I clear box it. Like every time that I've been receiving a degradation scene, I'm like I am not going to touch you, I'm going to masturbate and come on whatever we want me to and that's how we'll close it. And, like my normally, my thing is like I am less resilient right after I orgasm.
Speaker 1:So call it there and so and so like the like cause, the like I to enjoy it generally, I need to be aroused by it. So like setting those boundaries are like good to do. Like I just locked those up and me personally, that is perfect for me. Like it being 95% degradation with a hint of like, but maybe really kind of sorta is the. That's the exact flavor. So for I would say, for me specifically, it was like an 8.5.
Speaker 1:I would say yeah, I would say, for people who are looking for a feeling of worthlessness, that it would. It's more like a six and the thing that, the thing that I would add is you, you're enjoying yourself, right, like you're enjoying making them feel pathetic, and if they're, if what they want is to feel worthless, you need to lean more into actually being disgusted by them, and you're, oh, the other thing, too, that I would say is like you're leaning comedically right, like you're saying funny, degrading things about them instead of cruel.
Speaker 2:Oh, can you give me an example?
Speaker 1:So funny is I was like oh, I bet you still smell. I bet you still smell even after you take a shower. Cruel, is you know that? You did you not know that nobody talks to you because you smell bad? And I was like are you, are, and I'm seriously, are you that dumb that you don't know that? That's why nobody talks to you.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I was like, honestly, like until like a joke is, and I was like you're lucky for the pandemic because nobody has to smell you and cruel is. I was like I would rather get. I would rather get COVID than have to be next to you.
Speaker 2:Right, this is like next level villain training Like this is this is hard. This just became hard.
Speaker 3:That's what I think getting to know like some things about them. You know like that is an area of life that they're struggling in. You could really lean into that and hurt some feeling. Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna do it again. I'm not gonna sound like I wanna fuck you. I'm gonna be genuinely disgusted by you. I'm trying to be cruel. I'm trying to be cruel. I'm gonna try to be cruel.
Speaker 1:Trying to be mean, but I'm not gonna talk on this one. I'll let you rule. I'll let you rule.
Speaker 2:Okay, I've noticed that you continually text me despite the fact that I don't respond, and that's largely because your texts are fucking stupid and uninspiring and you say a whole bunch of bullshit, garbage that wastes my time. On top of that, I am the full package. I am a 10 out of 10. Fuck that. I'm a fucking 100 out of 10. So the thought that you could send me a dumb text message to elicit a response is very embarrassing for you. Now let me explain something to you.
Speaker 2:When you're gonna shoot your shot with a woman, you can't come at her. When you live with your parents and you hate your job and you're sad all the time because that's fucking stupid and I don't care, you should probably get your shit together before you try to get a reasonable woman, because nobody no goddess is going to be like yeah, I'm gonna respond to his text message. He lives with his parents, he's not bettering himself, he enjoys being a piece of shit garbage. I don't like piece of shit garbage. So I would absolutely love it if you left me the fuck alone and stopped texting me, because you will never, ever get a response. Bye.
Speaker 1:Cool, cool, cool. So definitely on the scale of like you're starting to have fun with it is great. Like I was, like you were getting in a rhythm of it and you were saying, like what felt good to say? And that's where you have to get right. You have to get to the point in your brain where it's like I was like okay, there's something like there's a reason we like villains or the reason we like to watch them. There's a reason it feels good to like decide to not go by the rules and be that to somebody.
Speaker 1:Find that seat and then start enjoying it, you'll probably be fine. You were giving, you know, tough love, self-help vibes for the most of it. So again you were being like. You were saying, like here are positive things you could have, but you can't because you're in this position, not where you would need to like if I were to. How to take the cruelty to attend in that situation is you know? I hope you don't have any hopes and dreams that are comfortable where you are at Like if you left your house, you wouldn't make it.
Speaker 3:You're still a child. Take it SNL, like, make it SNL level. You know how they always just dramaticize it. You know like even just take it as far as possible.
Speaker 2:Tosen, you're so good at being cruel that never even crossed my mind.
Speaker 1:I tried the skill set it takes to encourage people to use the same skill set it takes to destroy them. So I just don't use that side unless it's helping them.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Or they deserve it, which is rare.
Speaker 3:That one deserved it, but yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm gonna try it again. I'll go real short. I'll go real short.
Speaker 1:I'm totally gonna do a three round this time pick a situation where you wish you could have been cruel to someone you know. Don't mirror it exactly because that could be traumatizing, but like find a piece of that to latch onto, Okay.
Speaker 2:Gosh, I wish I was good at this, casey.
Speaker 3:You're gonna be brilliant on it cause you wanna be good at it. You're good at every single thing you do. You're good at yeah, and I also wanna state You'll get there.
Speaker 1:So far like if I was on the receiving end of any of the situations that you just discussed. I'm having a great time Like I was. Like you know, the camera is appropriately placed and I was like. So I was like you're getting the job done for sure.
Speaker 2:Are you saying you had the chubs?
Speaker 1:Specifically, I had the chubs, Especially the first one. The first one was like oh, I'm a struggling yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, I don't believe in you.
Speaker 2:I just don't think there's much to you. So it's not a good use of my time to communicate with you in any way or to be around you or to try and encourage you, because you're just fucking useless. You've tried to do so many things and you fail at them all and I think that's all you're gonna do. The rest of your life is fucking fail. You're here right now because you wanna get turned on right, but I have a feeling your dick's really tiny and you can't. And you've probably been with countless women and they're all really fucking disappointed. And you think you're really cool at the things that you do and you're so good and you're so sexy, but I love to be the one to break it to you, to tell you that you are terrible at what you do. That attitude of being so arrogant and in charge is a fucking joke, because you're garbage. Nobody wants to be with you and it's embarrassing. How's that? How's that? Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 1:We're getting the groove now. Yes, see, the other benefit that you're gonna have being in person is you can also add in physical elements, right? So I had someone that I was with a few times that was into it and they're into the use me for my body type of degradation type things, and so one of the go-tos is making them repeat degradating things back. I'm like do degradating things?
Speaker 1:And so one of my go-tos is like come here, no, no, no, no, you don't get to walk Crawl All fours walk over here, I'm always like, listen, if you're just holes for me, then I don't wanna see you walking like a person, lay on the ground, stay right there, don't do any of those things. And if they'll start to talk and I was like mm-mm, I was like you get to speak one word every 30 seconds, because if I have to keep listening to your voice for too much longer, I'm not gonna be okay. So just one word every 30 seconds. And if you can't count 30 seconds on your own, then I'll show you how long 30 seconds is, and so stuff like that. And so that helps give you things to do. If you are giving them degrading tasks and telling them degrading things they can and can't do is good.
Speaker 1:And making them humiliate themselves is also really good. So you, at the end of that, I would have been like say, it say it I'm not a good leader. Be honest for the first time in your entire life.
Speaker 2:Be real with yourself for once.
Speaker 1:Say it out loud I am garbage.
Speaker 2:I am a terrible leader. Nobody wants to be with me Trying to help you get it sunk in so that you don't have to keep being embarrassed your whole life.
Speaker 1:This is great. Yeah, go write it down.
Speaker 2:I love degradation. Go write it down, take notes. It's because then you're gonna forget later, because you're stupid, so you'll wanna be able to refer to them.
Speaker 3:Hey, that was that was good.
Speaker 2:Thanks, getting in groove figuring it out. I love degradation class, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:And then and again it. You can only go so hard with people who don't have you don't have a good foundation with right. I'm never going to forget that you love me because you know each other for so long, and so that's not gonna be a problem. The thing that I check for, like while I'm doing it, is beforehand. I'm always like hey, wear sensitive things. Like my go-to is. I was like don't make fun of my teeth. It's harder for me to stay resilient on that one. Like that one gets past the horny walls quickly.
Speaker 2:What does what does?
Speaker 1:Oh, like making fun of my teeth For your teeth.
Speaker 2:There's nothing wrong with your teeth. I know, but Wait is it good to get past the horny wall, or bad.
Speaker 1:Horny wall is the wrong word I'm actually going to be. It's easier for that one to actually hurt my feelings than other things right, and you want that or you don't want that.
Speaker 1:Like you can call me, depends right on what I'm looking for that day. Probably, in general, I don't when my feelings actually hurt, cause I'm you know, we're our conversation. I am a status masochist, not an emotional masochist. I don't actually like feeling bad or I don't get pleasure from feeling bad. I do get pleasure from feeling less than human or worthless, like the fact that someone is capable of like degrading me that much. That piece of like. Oh, I don't have to do anything. You know I'm a little pebbly, small dick, fat rock, and that's it Like a really small dick, fat rock.
Speaker 1:Right, it's great right and but you know you don't want to try to unless that's what they're looking for like actually hurt somebody's feelings and I'm pretty wary of doing degradation to people who are looking for me to like reinforce their traumas. He was like, oh, treat me the way that this person who abused me treated me, and I'm like no. Not necessarily no, but like, let's talk, let's talk when? Where are you at on that Cause? That can get, that can get sticky.
Speaker 3:That and I just recently posted on FetLife for the first time. I had never done that because I had gotten several inboxes I mean I say probably like 15 different people and on multiple different platforms Send something along the lines of describe your childhood spanking growing up, and I was like what the fuck? Like? Nothing makes me click out of a message quicker or block that person faster, because, a my trauma is not for your spank bank and B all I wrote on in the post was I don't know who needs to hear this, but don't ask people to describe their childhood spankings. That shit is weird and triggering.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I was shocked. I mean, I got so much feedback of like this, like this is exactly exactly this. Oh my God, it's the worst. Then there were like four idiots in there who are like some people are turned on by their trauma how dare you? And call me like self-centered, because I was like I'm not judging those people who wanna do that, but you have to find a partner who is willing to go to your most dramatic part of your life and recreate it. And, honestly, it is really. That is something really hard for me to wrap my mind around. I would never say it's not real, but I truly can't fathom recreating something from that trauma Like it's one thing to be like okay, let's say you were raped. There are people who were raped and then they go on to have like a rape kink. I would be surprised if there were just loads of those people who were like I wanna recreate exactly how it happened that night or that day Like that's just something I wouldn't even wanna be a part of.
Speaker 3:For somebody Like that's asking a whole lot in my opinion. So like I'm right there with Tosen on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I think so many things in our life are that we wanna do are born from our traumas and what we did as children.
Speaker 1:I think in kink, specifically, the mature, thoughtful people that are trying to create scenes from that are being like let me grab the pieces of this that did turn me on Right Cause, like if you put it in a vacuum all by itself and you look at the puzzle piece of it, then being like, okay, well, you know, I'm turned on by fear and I like power dynamics and I like being surprised and like I'm gonna take those three puzzle pieces that are not the full map of everything that happened, but like those three aspects of it I enjoyed. Let me not say those three aspects of it I enjoyed. Those are three things that I like and let me create something out of that. That's like I think that is a fine and healthy way to go about it. You know, I've heard a story of someone who does like having a traumatic event in their life recreated specifically and for them it's because having being able to organize it on their own terms is really, really helpful for them, and like they have a lot of guidelines and rules about it.
Speaker 3:Totally Like.
Speaker 3:I would imagine that's not like a conversation starter for them, though, if someone outright described what your trauma is and that's what these people were trying to say was fair that these people wanted to ask me that and I'm like no, because it's not. If I had the idea that we were gonna be play partners or we were gonna meet up, I get understanding getting to the trauma part and eventually leading into it, but when you are coming at it, that is, you have a trauma kink, like you wanna hear someone's trauma and then you wanna use it to get your rocks off, and I think that's gross. It is gross.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely problematic, but, casey, I'm excited for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited for you too, because I'm gonna get really good at this. I just wanna fuck you up.
Speaker 1:I'm a huge fan, my body's ready. But yeah, the other thing, too is like, make sure that you're enjoying it. If the person being degraded is gonna spend a large part of the front part of the capacity taking care of you Because you're doing the more harmful thing, it's much easier to be degraded than to degrade someone and, in my opinion, if you're not a monster and so, so when I'm being degraded the front part of it I'm spending time making sure that they're okay, which keeps me from enjoying the getting degraded part of it. So the easiest way to get out of that headspace is like, when they start to cross that line, when they're getting into it, I know that they're enjoying themselves. And then it's like, yeah, now we're swimming in this, we're vacationing in the pool of human cruelty together, which is fun to do, which is vacationing in?
Speaker 2:the pool of human cruelty is what this episode is gonna be called.
Speaker 1:Perfect, perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amazing, that was awesome. Thank you, friends, I think it's a good lesson. Well, we've done that, so I have 15 FetLife messages in one of my two accounts that we could look at IRL in real time.
Speaker 3:Please go to the one with the most. Which one has the most, or 15 between the two of them?
Speaker 2:No, no, 15, just in the domestic discipline one. I haven't even looked at the DOM one, which is probably filled with tripe.
Speaker 1:Literal pig intestines.
Speaker 2:Literal pig intestines, but I have the domestic discipline, one open and it's less awesome than it once was. So my first one is well originally I was like.
Speaker 2:These people are amazing. They're like I can't hold it, and now I'm getting a different vibe. So my first one is the subject is let's explore the possibilities. Hi, let's explore the possibilities. I enjoyed reading your profile. I'd love to communicate with you further and, if we agree to, let's get together sometime soon and see if we have a chemistry. Are you up for it? Please let me know? Thanks, Everyone feels real faith. Everyone feels real fake.
Speaker 3:Or it's just generic that person got me boosted and sent that to. Yeah, yeah, he just hit up everybody with discipline.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna delete that. Delete it 100%.
Speaker 2:And then, oh God, look it, I've got one of these over here, no subject. All it says is hey there, gross Delete, okay, next one.
Speaker 1:Oh, instead of deleting these, send all these people your cash out.
Speaker 3:No, you can't do that. Actually on FetLife oh, that's true, amazing, all right.
Speaker 2:Another one, if I may ask, is a subject and it says do you spank boys too?
Speaker 1:I don't hate that start.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say I do, it's all I'm gonna say I do spank boys. Well, I deleted messages and they've come back. Oh, FetLife.
Speaker 1:Get your life together. Here's another one, no subject, or are these?
Speaker 2:people sending the same thing. No, it's the website. It's terrible. Here's another one. No subject.
Speaker 3:Hi Governess.
Speaker 2:Do you use Bullwhips? Whoa, not at the.
Speaker 1:Moment.
Speaker 2:Do you use Bullwhips? But I'll let you know if that changes. I've thought about it. I don't have time.
Speaker 1:That's a whole thing. Yeah, do you want to know? A?
Speaker 3:secret what I am very good at a bullwhip, are you? I don't have the desire and could never hit someone with it, but I ever, since I watched the behind the scenes of Michelle Pfeiffer skip roping with a bullwhip and then in one take, whipping the heads off of like eight mannequins. And then she's skipping it get away In one take. She did that. I have been fascinated and so I have one and I would love to teach you.
Speaker 2:I am here for this. I am here for it. I love this. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:That is a fascinating skill set.
Speaker 3:It sounds. It's such a cool feeling when you finally get it down, because you look like a moron up until the moment you, that it works, understand how to make it crack. Oh yeah, it's awesome. It can be brutal, awesome.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's another one Again, because fuck subjects. Hi, how are you? Was one message sent two weeks ago. I did not respond four days ago. Do you think spanking is a good punishment or is more of a game?
Speaker 1:Do you think this is a?
Speaker 2:game. I'm just going to go ahead and delete that Stupid conversation. Okay, good morning at events. Oh, this is somebody actually giving me information. Ah, subject. This one has a subject, oh wait. Oh, this is somebody that wants to get spanked. That has messaged me three times and I have not responded, so I will get back to that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2:Somebody who's actually a person who's like I will trade things. I will trade things for the service.
Speaker 1:We'd like to see it.
Speaker 2:Then one guy just said hello, no punctuation. I mean, at least it capitalized the age, but there's no subject Does that ever? Work, apparently because they keep doing it, I don't know. Anyways, delete. Oh, here's one Paying my respects. Ma'am, love your pics. You're a true disciplarian. I completely respect and admire that. Texas is the spanking capital of America. People appreciate its value.
Speaker 3:Okay, that took a real, real, sharp turn.
Speaker 1:You had me in the first half. Yeah me too.
Speaker 3:Right up until you love.
Speaker 2:corporal punishment on children Texas is the spanking capital of America. People appreciate its value as a behavior tool. I see you are in Austin, a legendary university town. Exclamation point Do Texas kids over 18 ever seek you out when they're growing up at school? Thank you for your time.
Speaker 3:What if you're like, no, only under 18?
Speaker 2:No under 18. He's 60. He's 60 years old and he's a male spanko All.
Speaker 3:I can think is maybe he's joking around.
Speaker 2:Thank you for taking the time to read this E-letter.
Speaker 1:he said that's the most boomer thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:I'm going to delete that. Oh stupid, Delete.
Speaker 1:The thing that's cracking me up about it the most is like is he trying to figure out if you're into school? Corporal punishment.
Speaker 3:He should just ask, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like it was like what secret thing are you trying to? I just think he doesn't know how to write E-letters. I don't either way.
Speaker 3:E-letter.
Speaker 2:Email. An electronic message oh my God, so silly. All right. This one is titled governess Rune says I enjoy good spanking. I am still daily new, but I'm constantly naughty if naughty in need of direction. So it possible to learn more about you. Wow, the grammar there is very sus.
Speaker 3:Where are they from?
Speaker 1:Hutto, hutto, texas, oh, come on.
Speaker 3:Okay, now go back and read it like white trash, Okay hold on, I enjoy good spanking.
Speaker 2:I'm still daily new here but I'm constantly naughty in need of direction. Is it possible to learn more about you? Yeah, there's that. I'm going to respond and say only if you use proper grammar and punctuation, and that's just embarrassing.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's going to think that you're setting up a discipline situation.
Speaker 3:I shouldn't have said white trash, I should have said southern.
Speaker 1:It's okay, everybody, all the disclaimers, we don't know, all the people in Hutto, a white trash, blah blah. We care about human beings, relax.
Speaker 2:We're nice people. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what they do now. No subject, no canceling.
Speaker 2:Just canceling. Hi, I'm the husband side of the account I will be an awesome for working with. I have been curious about switching but don't want to approach my wife until I am sure. Do you have an opening on your schedule? What Hi, what Hi, I am the husband side of the account. I will be an Austin for work the week of June 5th. I have been curious about switching but don't want to approach my wife until I'm sure.
Speaker 3:Do you think he?
Speaker 2:meant swinging. No, he might mean he wants to be the sub the bottom.
Speaker 3:But, he's the don with his wife and he doesn't, but why does he need to approach her?
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay Okay. I was reading that, as I don't know if I want to be a bottom. That's what I was reading and I'm going to check with you instead of I want a bottom for my wife, but before I would, I don't want the first time I bought him with my wife to be with my wife, which I find more acceptable.
Speaker 3:Unless he's not telling his wife.
Speaker 1:Well, I assume that if it's a joint account, so like she can see the message oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Hopefully.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:a couple. Does it look like it's a couple's account?
Speaker 2:No 37, female brat.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know. I mean it's commonplace for couples to share a fat life account.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said, I said I do. Would you like my rate the two?
Speaker 3:people I know off the top of my head that do that. Their accounts say that, but it's just one. The other one does not ever check the account or is even a part of it, but they're. They're. Both of their profiles say that Okay.
Speaker 2:This guy. No subject, 29 switch male. Hi there, How's it going? I'm Arvin, by the way, I'm Arvin, btw. And then he sent me a picture of himself and said that's me Smiley face, peace fingers, cool. Gonna delete that.
Speaker 3:Wait, wait, would you not like about that?
Speaker 2:Would I not like about it the picture. I don't. It's just stupid. What am I supposed to do with that? I'm Arvin. This is me. This is what I don't like about it. I don't know his intention. All he did was send me a picture. Why do I want his fucking picture?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2:What am I supposed to do that? Again, it's somebody who's trying to start a conversation without doing the work of the conversation. The only question was small talk. He doesn't really care how it's going, I know nothing about him and he hasn't stated his intentions or any sort of interesting opener. So he shot his shot and it sucked.
Speaker 1:Fell on the floor.
Speaker 2:Fell on the floor. Also, who sends a photo without permission? On that life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I was thinking was the non-consensual photo.
Speaker 2:Oh, that this one is nice. Hello governance, hello governance. You seem like a very delightful lady and I wanted to say hi.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's still like where do we go from here? But that's better.
Speaker 2:I'm going to switch accounts. This segment is Casey, oh, so my Check your messages so the Hecate account, the DOM account, only has five messages and I haven't been on it in quite some time. It's the most prized, okay, so? Okay, well, that one's an actual conversation, so we won't make fun of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, this one's long and I haven't read it. Let's see what it says. This is hello, goddess Hecate is the subject. Hello, hope you're doing well and all is okay. I wanted to introduce myself to you. My name is Shimminimina Shimminma.
Speaker 2:I am a submissive and will be honored to kneel before you and submit to you. I have been submissive for many years. I am into a variety of activities and always willing to try something new and exciting, I feel. A few things I enjoy are foot worship, spanking, being tied up, cuffed, some humiliation and torture, and more. I wanted to see if you're looking for someone to submit to you. Please, if you are, I would be interested in being that person if you give me the opportunity. That was a long sentence with no punctuation. Maybe you just want a foot slave, maybe you want more and you want me to make and you want me at your mercy, or maybe you want me doing your dishes and over-acumming. I do need a house boy. Please, if you're interested, I'm sure we can find a place for me to submit to you. I hope to hear from you soon. Also, to answer the two questions I get asked the most yes, I do have a job and I do have a vehicle. Yeah, I like it, that's great, that's great 47 switch.
Speaker 1:That's the stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the stuff, it's the middle-aged men.
Speaker 1:They're ready for it.
Speaker 2:It's probably the best message I have received on here. I mean, it's still ridiculous, Don't get me wrong. Oh, and then I have somebody a friend introducing me to somebody who is looking for a Dom, and I saw him at flipside and he asked if he could intro us. Okay, get this. So the guy on my domestic discipline account who said do you think spanking is good punishment or is a game? Also send that same message to Hecate.
Speaker 2:The one about Texas discipline. No, no, no. All he said was do you think spanking is good punishment or is more of a game?
Speaker 3:Oh, what's his handle?
Speaker 2:I'm sure you don't want to say it on I just deleted it, but it's a picture of him on the back, from the back side, with just his butt exposed like he'd been spanked. It's a little red.
Speaker 3:Isn't a great t-shirt.
Speaker 2:Anyways, that's my Fed accounts. I hope everybody had a good time.
Speaker 2:Oh, and somebody sent me a friend request and their profile picture is oh, it's really weird looking sex. I thought it was a foot in a vagina, but it turns out it's. I can't tell what whole his penis is going in. Yeah, tosin and Stephanie, you're just watching me like, get closer to my screen as I try to figure out what I'm looking at. Yeah, I don't like that profile picture. I'm just going to go ahead and make more of that Anywho, I guess I guess that's it for this episode.
Speaker 1:Boom.
Speaker 2:Unless anybody has anything they want to add. Nope, no, all right, thanks for tuning into this episode of Casey's Inbox. And Casey learns to dumb all you sexy beasts out there.
Speaker 3:I feel like that episode. We should have charged people for it.
Speaker 2:Somebody's going to get the chubs out there other than Tosin. I feel like they're going to listen to this one over and over, not just me.
Speaker 1:You're going to be in the chub gang everybody.
Speaker 2:I'm very excited about learning the bullwhip. Stephanie, I am here for it. Let's do that. Yay, okay, I'm going to go ahead and make all you sexy beasts out there. Thank you for turning into this episode of Talk Dirty to Me.
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Speaker 4:Because it just looks lazy, if you don't? I?
Speaker 2:know it's a stupid formality, but you just look lazy if you don't, Anyways bye, bye, bye.
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