On December 7th of 2020, at the height of covid, while everyone's nerve were shot, Katie Sorensen, a mother to 3 young children, posted a warning to her blog.
According to Katie, while on a trip out to Michaels Craft Store, with her two youngest children, a 4 year old boy and a 1 year old girl. They had narrowly avoided the unthinkable, what Katie perceived to be an attempted child abduction.
On her way home from the craft store, Clearly rattled, Katie called the Petaluma PD, and filed a report. And on her blog a few days later, Katie uploaded a warning to other parents.
On it, Katie lists the reasons that she felt as though, she and her children were at risk.
Days after the incident, police would release a picture of the suspects that they had from the security footage.
After seeing themselves, with the warning that they were wanted for questioning in an attempted child abduction, you can only imagine the surprise felt by Sadie and Eddie Martinez. And the couple turned themselves in right away. According to Sadie and Eddie, they were only in the store so that they could purchase a new baby Jesus for their nativity scene.
Was this the story of a mother who was genuinely scared for the well being, and felt that she was under a threat, or was this someone looking to gain followers for her mommy blog, and things got terribly out of hand. Let us know what you think!
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On December 7th of 2020, at the height of covid, while everyone's nerve were shot, Katie Sorensen, a mother to 3 young children, posted a warning to her blog.
According to Katie, while on a trip out to Michaels Craft Store, with her two youngest children, a 4 year old boy and a 1 year old girl. They had narrowly avoided the unthinkable, what Katie perceived to be an attempted child abduction.
On her way home from the craft store, Clearly rattled, Katie called the Petaluma PD, and filed a report. And on her blog a few days later, Katie uploaded a warning to other parents.
On it, Katie lists the reasons that she felt as though, she and her children were at risk.
Days after the incident, police would release a picture of the suspects that they had from the security footage.
After seeing themselves, with the warning that they were wanted for questioning in an attempted child abduction, you can only imagine the surprise felt by Sadie and Eddie Martinez. And the couple turned themselves in right away. According to Sadie and Eddie, they were only in the store so that they could purchase a new baby Jesus for their nativity scene.
Was this the story of a mother who was genuinely scared for the well being, and felt that she was under a threat, or was this someone looking to gain followers for her mommy blog, and things got terribly out of hand. Let us know what you think!
If you’re interested in receiving bonus episodes, early release dates, an everything scary sticker and ‘thank you’ as well as a shout out on our regular feed! Please join at Patreon//everythingscarypod571
Welcome to Everything Scary. My name is Lynn and I'm here with my co-host local celebrity, sorry, sorry, international celebrity. Thank you, matt McClain.
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Speaker 1:I'm going to dump them into this box because I'm afraid that some of them are inter-tangling with each other.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, and we have nothing if not integrity. Whoa, that's a lot. Are those all of our patrons? That's a lot.
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Speaker 2:That is exciting. You got Mandy too in there.
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Speaker 1:I'm leaving the mic for a second.
Speaker 2:Yes, you go off mic. I will continue to stay on microphone and I will pick boom. I have a new patron, ashley, and I believe this is going to be Robertson. She's our Scottish friend. No.
Speaker 1:Are you shitting me? I am not shitting you. I would never shake you.
Speaker 2:The one we were just talking about. The one we were just talking about.
Speaker 1:Behind her back, I was showing you pictures of her baby. Yes, sorry, ashley, your baby is fucking cute.
Speaker 2:I know we said that it's sometimes babies don't look the cutest right away.
Speaker 1:I said, sometimes babies are questionable.
Speaker 2:And it's a what do they call it? Precious moments Like just a porcelain.
Speaker 1:Your baby came in just fully unfolded, looking gorgeous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if it was in a movie they'd be like, okay, take the makeup off the baby, we get it.
Speaker 1:No, your baby is gorgeous and now you get a fun package and I have to pay for shipping to Scotland, so you're welcome.
Speaker 2:But I'm happy to do it because I love Ashley. Yeah, we love all of our Scottish listeners.
Speaker 1:And the bit. Oh, did you see she was making fun of you. No, she posted a picture. She was like thanks so much, guys, for talking about how cute my baby is, but I don't know why this guy had to make an appearance and it was the fat bastard that's what they Cause that's exactly what you say on the fly.
Speaker 2:You know what? So fat bastard has ruined all accents for me in the UK British, irish, scottish, they all mold and anything European is borat now and I apologize.
Speaker 1:You know what I blame Sasha Baricone.
Speaker 2:Any other accents, Since we are not allowed to do for logical reasons.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Mainly being racism which we get.
Speaker 1:We can make fun of white people.
Speaker 2:Yes, they are the worst.
Speaker 1:And thank you for the say you. That's the segue, wow.
Speaker 2:Why don't you tell everybody what I got you for your birthday, by the way?
Speaker 1:This beautiful magazine isn't a magazine or book.
Speaker 2:I would say that's a magazine, that is a newspaper feature. It is from the USA today.
Speaker 1:It is. It's true crime cases that shocked America and I'm going to. I am diving into that.
Speaker 2:She's got a thumb right through that thing. Stick your thumb where the sun don't shine and that's right in the crack of the magazine.
Speaker 1:The body of Tracy Hamburg was found on Grafton, wisconsin man's driveway. She was 18 years old.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:People just think that they accidentally get ahead of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. What the hell.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of white people being the worst, yes, oh, I just realized I ruined your segue.
Speaker 2:You're like that's a perfect segue and then I asked you a question off topic, like fucking destroying your beautiful segue. No, but far people that have birthdays the most annoying birthdays are annoying white people. No for sure.
Speaker 1:Is that? Am I annoying?
Speaker 2:No, I was helping you with your segue. I'm sorry, I thought your segue was about annoying white people.
Speaker 1:I thought you were calling me annoying.
Speaker 2:No, you're way too pretty to be annoying.
Speaker 1:This on the day of my?
Speaker 2:no, it's not actually my birthday anywhere you could be you're so pretty, you could be a giant bitch and I wouldn't care. You're so sweet I mean you're a regular bitch and I don't care, but you could be a giant bitch if you want it. The Scots know what I'm talking about. It looks wise. It's got a giant g.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can't do it.
Speaker 2:She's just a wee little batch.
Speaker 1:So I'm doing a woman today. That's weird.
Speaker 2:Boy, really uh kidding ourselves to our Scottish listeners, are we?
Speaker 1:This is a picture and episode, so I've decided that I'm going to do a woman on air.
Speaker 2:And tribute to our Scottish lesbians.
Speaker 1:So this is Katie Somerson. Okay, Katie have you heard of her at all.
Speaker 2:No, but Katie is my favorite name for a girl, not for much longer.
Speaker 1:So oh no, Did you have a crush on a girl named Katie? Is that why, or?
Speaker 2:Yes, my first crush was a girl named Katie, so ever since then, every Caitlin, katie, kate, they're all met men like Okay, what's Katie doing nowadays?
Speaker 1:Does she? I have no idea actually. Okay, you know we have Facebook and like.
Speaker 2:I have looked for her on Facebook, I've looked for her twin brother on Facebook and I have.
Speaker 1:Oh no, this is ICQ girl.
Speaker 2:What? No, no, no, no, oh no, that was a different girl. That was that girl that looks like Felicity. Yeah, yeah, uh-oh.
Speaker 1:You hit on her brother.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So this is a Patreon episode. I don't know, I've got a bunch of stuff in here about joining us on Instagram. You guys know, I don't know what- I'm saying yeah, f Instagram.
Speaker 2:The best thing is our Patreon, if you are not on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these are our patrons. You guys are on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my fave. I like it and.
Speaker 1:I'm really enjoying our new second handy-mandy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hate social media. With a passion, like I really do for my radio job, I kind of have to do it. But now we're being banned from like in Canada, our Instagram page and our Facebook page are shut down why? Because the C18 law, where Trudeau or the federal government, I should say wants big tech companies just to pay small media companies for their stories.
Speaker 1:You're kidding.
Speaker 2:And they think that we are news outlets at fresh 93-1.
Speaker 1:You guys are a news outlet.
Speaker 2:According to either the federal government.
Speaker 1:You guys don't want to either though, because Will Nash posts all like the big?
Speaker 2:20 stuff. He does. It on TikTok he does.
Speaker 1:See, I love watching his stuff, so I think you can enjoy this one.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because it has all your favorite things. You're fully within your rights to make fun of the people in this story.
Speaker 2:Love it.
Speaker 1:Guilt free, jack. There's a pretty blonde lady in it who craves attention.
Speaker 2:Jackpot.
Speaker 1:And there's a Michael's Arts and Crafts store in it.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I actually know about Michael's stores.
Speaker 1:All things that are on your vision. So this story takes place in 2020.
Speaker 2:Heard of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the year when the world stood still and we were all saran-wrapped up to our fucking eyeballs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we were wiping. Did you ever wipe down your groceries? Did you ever go to that?
Speaker 1:My kids weren't even allowed to come near me. I'm like fucking wiping damn bananas with Lysol. I'm like good thing. I bought organic ones.
Speaker 2:I went to the hospital during that time, during like the height of COVID, which honestly in my mind, there was no safer place than the hospital. I went to the hospital during COVID.
Speaker 1:I truthfully believe I had COVID, but they wouldn't test me because it was like, right at the beginning, it was like I got sick in March of 2020.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah like and I was. I don't go to the hospital.
Speaker 1:I don't go to the doctor Like I'll walk off a broken leg. But I was so sick and I called my parents crying and I was like I can't do this, like someone needs to watch my kids and I need to go to work. But I went into the COVID testing station and I was just like bam, bam, bam, Like I went right through, but they wouldn't test me because I hadn't been able to do that.
Speaker 1:They would test me because I hadn't been around somebody who had traveled oh yeah, like Right at the beginning they had limited tests, so they're like you probably have a sinus infection, and I was like, okay, well, does sinus infections make you want to die? Because that's what's happening here.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you have a regular sinus infection and you're a complainant welcome bitch. And you're being a dramatic beat the jackpot. So I'm going to diagnose you with a couple of chill pills.
Speaker 1:And then fix me right off so yeah, so you know we all fucking hated each other for some reason, and we had a lot of opinions.
Speaker 2:I still hate each other, not you.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, again, your looks, unless I'm not here.
Speaker 2:Looks wise. I can't, I can never hate you I have a good personality. You keep saying that. I will say that you always are pushing that agenda.
Speaker 1:You just have to say, you have to put it out there. So you know, we had a lot of opinions, not a lot of toilet paper, but yeah, that was a good one. What.
Speaker 2:The toilet paper shortage was I had to buy toilet paper Like we were out of toilet paper at the height of the toilet paper shortage.
Speaker 1:You say you had to buy. Where do you normally? How do you do? Well, I mean, like we had like we had.
Speaker 2:Like I was at Costco buying toilet paper when you couldn't get, like it was like the cabbage patch dolls, like the employee walked away and I ran in there and grabbed toilet paper like a fucking idiot, but we needed it. It was awful. Everybody thought it was probably a reseller.
Speaker 1:You know, I just actually know I won't even say I'm finished it. I probably have about a good like four inches left in the bottom of my 10 pound bag of flour, because I was like we need to bake bread.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:I use flour regularly. Ten pounds is a lot of fucking flour Shit.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, there's the self rising dough. That was short first, and then everybody started getting what was it? Baking soda and baking powder or whatever, and you can make your own self rising dough.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then there was a dough shortage.
Speaker 1:It's funny because I'll like memories will pop up in my Facebook and it's like two weeks after the lockdown and I like had a picture of my two oldest ones and I'm like, you know, lockdown's been tough but, like you know, with these kids they've made it really easy.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:And then I was like two weeks in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Talked to me fucking like a year later.
Speaker 2:Two weeks in a day. I was like both of you, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to fucking tie your ears together.
Speaker 2:These little shits.
Speaker 1:My husband was an essential worker, so he's not a doctor.
Speaker 2:Stripping is not a stripping. Isn't stripping like an elective or like a luxury?
Speaker 1:Well, he at the time, like now he does or he was stripping for the government. Oh, dear Jesus Murphy. But he now does like security cameras in his own business and everything, but at the time he was working for Bell doing wireless internet, no one needed internet more.
Speaker 2:Yeah. At that time it was everybody working from home and all that, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:So he was busier than ever and I was home. Max was born in September of 2019. So he was five months old when this all happened. And then Olivia and Jake were two and three and it was winter, so I couldn't even fucking take them for a walk or anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a goddamn nightmare.
Speaker 2:Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I had to go off on that little rant.
Speaker 2:I was single and antisocial and I thrived. During the COVID lockdown I thought I was like I don't know if my prayers have been answered or if this is what it looks like to lean into your mental illness, but I'm loving this Mom do you see all these other people that are baking? Yeah, do you maybe want to get to baking? Mom, I notice all your hobbies include stuff for Dad. Get some fucking bread down here, lady. Okay, so here we go.
Speaker 1:We are going to start off with a video that had been uploaded by a 31 year old mom, fluenser.
Speaker 2:Me as a mom fluenser.
Speaker 1:I tied their fucking ears together.
Speaker 2:Those motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Her name was Katie Sorenson. Katie is very distraught in this video and she tells us that, even though she's not ready, she wants to tell people about her experience and hopefully she can shine a light of awareness on a tragedy that she has just narrowly avoided. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:I know, matt, I know.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:I saw three children with her husband David.
Speaker 2:A little tragedy, no offense.
Speaker 1:Three kids and a husband lady. My exact situation.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would suck, could you imagine, lynn?
Speaker 1:your thoughts, but in this situation only her two youngest were present A little boy who was four and a little girl who was one. Katie wants to make it known that her son is on the spectrum and therefore it makes it difficult for him to wear a mask.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:My son's on the spectrum, my middle son. Hmm like everybody's experience is completely different. The way my son is on the spectrum is that he is such a fucking rule abider. He's like do you need me to wear three or four? Like you should see this kid get a haircut. They're like look at your toes, oh yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 2:So what if it like the mass thing with kids that they're just like any kind of touch on their face?
Speaker 1:It's uncomfortable and I mean a lot of kids on the spectrum have like sensation issues like they can't wear certain clothing and Right.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, when I think sensory, I just think of like loud noise and strobe lights.
Speaker 1:But I never think of like touch smell, yeah, yeah smell a lot, but my middle guy, jake.
Speaker 1:I would say that the only thing that makes Jake Not different, unique, is that he Obsesses over things like Mario. Right now is the end, all be all and like. Even the last like Autism appointment that I took him to was years ago because it hasn't been an issue. He does well in school, he's social, he's whatever. But when I took him to his last thing it was Thomas. For the first three years it was Thomas, everything Thomas. And so I had said to the lady like the guy's name is Thomas, no, no, thomas, the tank engine.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just say Thomas, yeah first name basis with the fucking Thomas the.
Speaker 1:There's two, there's four, there's six.
Speaker 2:So he's obsessed with Tom. I said listen, you're a tank engine, you don't have to take that shit from tugboats.
Speaker 1:But so when I brought him in and like he's very social with her at the time he was very young, he was he's six now, so he was like two or three when I brought him in the last time and I said like look at him. Like he makes eye contact, he's happy, he's smiling, like is there any chance of me getting his diagnosis reversed?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And she said well, I don't think you want to get his diagnosis reversed because he's just been given all these extra Resources that you know like other kids could stand to benefit from. But if I'm being completely honest, she goes I have seen a few hints of it here today and I said what do you mean?
Speaker 2:And?
Speaker 1:she goes. Everything is Thomas. She goes. I'll be like Jacob. Do you want to go read a book? Is it a Thomas book? Jacob, do you want to go do a puzzle? Is it a Thomas puzzle?
Speaker 1:Like he obsesses harder things. And when I first got his diagnosis, I bucking Balled my eyes out and I worked with a woman. I worked for a dentist and she's my age and she has little kids as well and she is one of the most remarkable people I've ever met my entire life. And when I went back to work after I had had his appointment, I walked into her office and she had a list of very successful people who were on the spectrum.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, and she showed me, all these people who are, and she goes. Her son's name is Nico and she's like he's just an ordinary toddler where he's one thing here, one thing here, one thing here. She goes. I guarantee you she goes. Jake is gonna find something that he's so passionate about and he's gonna be the fucking best at it.
Speaker 2:That's wicked, and she was just the best. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah so, but in this woman's case she said that her son, he, couldn't deal with the mask on his face and he needed to be very close to her. So that was a part of the issue that we will see unfold in front of us today. So she had started her afternoon of errands at Michael's craft store and she only had two items to pick up. So she had decided that she was gonna run in and grab her two items and then she was gonna do a curbside pickup at Target and that was it Okay. So Katie decided to park her vehicle near the back because she brought her large double stroller with her thinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a bit of a production to get it in and out of the trunk and then to unbuckle the kids. She didn't want to inconvenience somebody who would maybe be trying to get to their car. Well, they were parked beside her.
Speaker 2:Thanks, so much about other people me, oh yeah, I'd like you back 40.
Speaker 1:I will park the furthest away near a Shopping cart. Yeah, yeah and that's that's always where I park, because it's like I'm constantly just getting people out of cars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a fucking clam car. So at this point I said I'm fully on board with Katie. I do the exact same thing. When you have a lot of kids it's just easier to give yourself the time in the space to do what you have to do instead of worrying about pissing somebody else off. So as she's struggling with the stroller she notices the car who parks in front of her but two spots to the left. At first she finds it a bit strange that they parked so far, all the way at the back, yeah but then she notices a man get out of the car and starts walking towards her.
Speaker 1:She thinks that maybe the man sees her struggling and is coming to offer a hand. Well, he starts walking towards her and then he stops, turns around and heads back to his car again, which was weird. Yeah but maybe he had just mistaken her for somebody else, or maybe he recognized her from her mom fluency. Yeah men are always watching those things.
Speaker 2:Yes, we are a creepy bunch. I Talked to a friend of mine who's a mom influencer the other day about that.
Speaker 1:Is she like an actual, like online?
Speaker 2:Yeah like, I'm like, I'm like. How do you feel about?
Speaker 1:this is just you running with like your people, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she's a close friend of mine and I was curious about how she felt about being sexualized when she's putting up wholesome content, like if she's like, hey, look at this outfit, I'm like what do you think of when guys are like I want to fuck you or whatever, like in your DMs, and she's like, honestly, I just try to stay true to the content and if that's how that, I cannot control If I put up a sex.
Speaker 1:I fuck them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bang every single one of my.
Speaker 1:I Know, but yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:Listen, if I put up a sexy, she's like it's different when I'm putting up a sexy post to be sexy and I state that. So then, sure, I'm welcoming those. I get it.
Speaker 1:Is she a smoke show?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's a smoke. Show for sure, for sure. So show yeah, she's like I just do the content you can't control.
Speaker 1:That's like people think so, like when I send you these messages like is this?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's just it's just Disarming, as I think it is. What? Yeah, I just so, I'm just gauging so you wouldn't have sex with them, with the DM, you know okay you're just okay.
Speaker 1:You're sticking to your okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, no, I got it.
Speaker 1:No, we're not gonna.
Speaker 2:So with the husband yeah okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Oh yeah, that's another there. Husbands like cook fucking cool guy. Is he hot too? Yeah, he's pretty good-looking guy.
Speaker 1:Would you be in a thrupple?
Speaker 2:He's so athletic I probably would have to be, just like I learned to be a real man.
Speaker 1:Or she could be doing her mom fluency stuff. He's just being a hot buff guy. Yeah maybe you could look up. Oh man, that's the worst part of it. Katie, you know she gets her stroller out. Her son sits Okay, so the way her stroller is designed is she's pushing okay there's a seat in front of her that's upwards and it's facing her.
Speaker 2:That's the littlest baby.
Speaker 1:No, so her son sits in that seat because of him being on the spectrum. The one-year-old sits down lower and it's facing out.
Speaker 2:Okay, so, so it's like a go train Our go bus UK double-decker.
Speaker 1:Nice shout out to Sarah. Yeah our UK patron.
Speaker 2:What up?
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, so that's how it goes. In the bottom seat, the baby faces forward and Katie claims that she puts a cover over her children for the record. In all the videos I watched, I did not see a stroller cover. But that's neither here nor there, because like a sunshade kind of deal.
Speaker 2:I'm well, she's saying the kids won't wear masks.
Speaker 1:So she puts there's different kinds of covers, right, so there's like there is. Like one in four so the boys for the baby girls one so we had a rule here in Ontario.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that? The mask mandate rule? It was for there was kids to win over. Oh, it was to, it was that it was that low. Yeah, I was kind of thinking that she might be okay with the yeah that might be for, for I would have been okay.
Speaker 1:Well, on the spectrum would probably oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you were. And then they also said if you were just unable to wear a mask.
Speaker 1:Oh God, and then you'll get all these people that are like I am asthma.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:But okay, whatever we're out of that now we don't need to talk about masks anymore. Oh no, I'm a whole bunch of Lou lemon masks. That got me like fucking a fortune and I'm like I can't bring myself to throw them out. Cuz so lemon. I'm just gonna start with lemon.
Speaker 2:I'm such a loser. Are they made out of tights? What are they made out of? Like tights?
Speaker 1:Oh, but they make my face look great.
Speaker 2:I really lift my cheeks. They lift and separate my cheeks. My nose is the butthole of the face.
Speaker 1:So right now I am researching the Lulu lemon murder.
Speaker 2:What is that Exactly? Wait, a Lulu lemon person in the Lulu lemon store. Oh, there was a murder in a store.
Speaker 1:I'm reading the book with my ears.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, a little audio book I got you.
Speaker 1:So our next recording I'm gonna be doing covering that case I'm very excited about it fucking wicked. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Will you wear Lulu's to the recording?
Speaker 1:You're using, you lose. I'm wearing all Lulu lemon today.
Speaker 2:Wow, I had no. I Tell me you stare at your co-host like a creep without telling me you stare at your co-host like a creep. Oh, my god, you're Lulu lemon, fucking container of a while.
Speaker 1:I have to hide a lot of receipts.
Speaker 2:We should go to the Lulu lemon store one day.
Speaker 1:It's dangerous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to go the worst. It's like my business card your business card.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the ladies, or whatever, I have a ton of your business cards. You want me to go in there next time.
Speaker 2:I want you to just hand them out when you see ladies that are. Fucking got it attractive meter. Yeah, yeah fucking.
Speaker 1:I will do that for you, for sure You're gonna get your girls nights, what you done with your girls. Yeah they're all flattered, but we have a lot of kids. All of my friends are friends because we have kids. Oh, nice you reach a certain point in your life and you're like do you like sushi? Do you have kids?
Speaker 2:Yeah let's.
Speaker 1:You're now my maid of honor in my way.
Speaker 2:So you hang out with people that have at least had sex two to three times that I know I mean.
Speaker 1:I don't want to brag, but damn, I have one friend who I will not say her name. She big hoe has sex with her husband every single night of the week. Whoa and not because she wants to, she's just like. I just can't deal with his fucking morning. That is impressive that is very fucking impressive if I had some sort of an award of some sort to give to her man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that award is HPV and Definitely a UTI, because you're not leaving enough time and I highly does that. You are being every night at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's a gynecologist, so you heard it right, I'm more of a hobbyist. Is that guy an intern?
Speaker 2:We're in a Kirkman shirt, not a lab coat.
Speaker 1:He just waters that plant.
Speaker 2:I do?
Speaker 1:it looks like it's drowning, so yeah, we keep going. You creep, sorry you have fucking cars to vacuum.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:So you know, I said there's no site of the. The cover for this floor Yep because you know the events that transpire. Naks are nothing less than nightmare fuel. Oh are you ready?
Speaker 2:I'm ready. Oh, I love her so much. Oh man, I can't wait to make the announcement about giving away Taylor Swift tickets to our victory members saying that it's not official. It's not official. You're still working at the kinks. I Do that to Tara, my ghost on the radio. No, but she just takes that it's that we're giving away the greatest when we have no tickets to give. Like, stop talking, telling people. We're giving away Taylor Swift tickets.
Speaker 1:I have to ask are all these hooks in here for the purses? Yeah you put them up specifically for the person 100% Wow yeah so anyone knows what I'm talking about. Matt and Tara do a thing. Do you guys still do it with?
Speaker 2:I don't think we haven't done it. I don't think we've done it in the COVID era. I think it was one of those things that Poppy and Peanies right. Yeah, and, and there were other ones. If we started with them and then we went out, I think that we did one with the Bay one year, so we could get like.
Speaker 1:I love Poppy and Peanies like oh my god, I'm shocked that that brand is not like. Yeah, don't you find them nicer looking than this?
Speaker 2:I do Wow.
Speaker 1:That's fucking rude.
Speaker 2:I Do, I just think I look at coach, even like Hermes.
Speaker 1:I don't like fucking Hermes. I'll never understand the.
Speaker 2:Hermes thing for me. I just like I get you know what I understand Dolce and Gabon I that I can get as a fashion brand, because that's stuff I could see people wearing in real life there's a purse that's on the housewife's, is an Hermes purse and Once again, you will not understand this because it's Thomas the tank, but it's.
Speaker 1:The purse looks like Tiddmouth Sheds, like it's got, like it's a brand purse about you know a foot and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then?
Speaker 1:it's got two loops in it that are filled in brown like they look like tunnels where trains would be yeah. And it's a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, crazy stupid. Why would you ever even it looks?
Speaker 1:like fucking Tiddmouth.
Speaker 2:Sheds from. I don't even know what that word, those words are.
Speaker 1:So it's weird, fucking Thomas goes to sleep. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:him with Sheds Tiddmouth, tiddmouth. Tiddmouth Sheds okay, cool, all right, thomas. Time to pull into the train and rest for another evening.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:George Carlin your topping. You don't know, fucking blue. No, thomas the train engine, it would be in the fucking engine oh shit, my bad fam.
Speaker 1:No, but all that to say poppy and peonies is a very beautiful purse, and so what they would do here at the station is they had numbered purses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really, and they had 80 purses, and you just pick a number and they had cool fucking things in them too.
Speaker 1:So like you picked a number like what purse you thought was nice if it was still available, and then usually Matt would go through the purse and here's what you've won yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, diane, you've got the purse.
Speaker 1:Want to hear what's inside and then it's like a bunch of bullshit. It's like you get to have your car details.
Speaker 2:How about this? A car detailing from Zeniton.
Speaker 1:I did win a Remote car start from you guys, from Zenitek, I believe nice except I already had a remote car start, so I gave it to my dad and he lost it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's illegal and we will be charging you.
Speaker 1:Ha ha, ha ha bitch security waiting for me, all right nightmare fuel.
Speaker 2:Okay, Fucking car to vacuum Zenitek and detailing make me think I don't fucking do my car because I'm sitting at home tapping or watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, so you know, katie decided that, moving forward census incident that I'm gonna tell you about the first thing she would be changing is that she will no longer be parking that far away in fears of Inconvenencing others. She believed that her consideration for others is what put her into this compromising position jeopardize her safety.
Speaker 1:So she had this weird interaction with this man at the back of the parking lot. He had come out of his car and he walked towards Katie and her kids and then he turned around and walked away and she thought you know, maybe he knew me, but she wasn't sure. Anyways, the date of this event was December 7th of 2020. I will get into very detailed explanation as to what happened, but I'm just gonna give you the overlook first. Okay, after making a report to the Paloma police department, she decided that she's going to use her platform as a mum fluencer to help raise awareness and potentially Thwart a kidnapping for the purpose of human trafficking. Mmm which is what she believes that she narrowly avoided that after you okay.
Speaker 1:You find human trafficking funny.
Speaker 2:I don't find it funny. No, I think it is a very serious issue. I just think it is super Over inflated. Yeah, and again, I don't think it doesn't exist. I just don't think it's lurking at every corner.
Speaker 1:I am one of those people that worry about it. Yeah corner, like I'll have a elderly lady come up to me and be like your kids are so beautiful. Like chopper, chopper keep moving. I'm talking traffic alert but no, it is a fact that it's less than 1% that this kind of thing happens.
Speaker 2:It's trafficking is usually done by somebody you know the big thing here in Ontario is and I don't know what it's called, but it's like employment trafficking or sites. It's like where you bring in immigrants. And there's a legal way to bring in immigrants if you've got like farm fields or you need, you know, maintenance, whatever the fuck you need, but they're doing it illegally and they're putting them up and and they're like a lot of them are like working at resorts, like they've cracked down on it a lot since this big expose a couple years ago, but it was a lot of people like up from Mexico, like cleaning resorts, living in, like yeah, like blue trombone, like okay, yeah, all right, yeah what was the one in Aurelia, ramarod, or something it's called like.
Speaker 2:The casino Ramah.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, the casino Ramas resort is it's a taboo. No. I guess, with an F, I believe, but anyways, not a hair and are there. So you know Katie had gone there and she was going to get her two materials.
Speaker 2:She wanted to make homemade Christmas presents, which are so if you have kids, they're great, but if you don't have kids, just buy me something.
Speaker 1:You know her gift certificate. Oh, please, cash will be great. So on December 13th 2020, katie posted a two-part video of herself in her car, potentially saving lives, man. Yeah, okay so I've already told you about the scary man.
Speaker 2:Wait, that's. That's not the end of the man.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2:Okay, that wasn't the incident.
Speaker 1:No, all right, so the man was scary right. Yeah, I left, and then all that kind of stuff and he was walking towards her, then he wasn't walking towards her. Well, believe it or not, matt, it gets a lot worse. Oh, I'm gonna jump down a bit in what she says, because Peace is you fast-forward and peace of shit because a lot of it is redundant.
Speaker 1:So she now has her kids in the stroller and she's making her way into the Michaels, which is her first mistake, because Michaels is easily one of the scariest places. But you know Katie's brave, so now to quote Katie so I get the kids. Why do?
Speaker 2:Katie, have a softer voice and you're just going here.
Speaker 1:Why is Katie is a month when, sir, instead, I have a true crime pod that Because I'm gruff.
Speaker 2:All right, go Katie, let's do that quote so I get the kids the stroller and we go into the store and they come in.
Speaker 1:She's referring to the man that walked up to her. Now he's got a woman with her. Oh and they kind of Walk close behind me. Um, I definitely felt the heebie-jeebies. Oh no, it didn't feel good, but I thought I was judging a book by its cover. They were not like Kind, that sounds bad, but they weren't.
Speaker 1:Um, they weren't clean-cut individuals sounds worse, so I attributed my discomfort from judging a book by its cover. That is the second thing I will be changing from this experience for it she's gonna now start judging books by their cover.
Speaker 2:Isn't that judging a cover by its cover? Like you don't even get into the book of the guy, You're just judging the cover by its cover. You use the book by its cover means you have to read the book and realize it's different than the cover.
Speaker 1:You're only referring to the cover but luckily it doesn't matter, cuz she's gonna start Following her guide on this one.
Speaker 2:I didn't kick you out of the room. One day I'm gonna be so fed up with you one day, I mean. So you know what? I don't want to finish the episode.
Speaker 1:I mean I just have to stand in the hallway like a high school.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna wrap it up with a wrestling recap, okay.
Speaker 1:So that is the second thing I will change from this experience. Yeah, I went directly to the back of the store because one of those items that I needed is spray paint. Mmm and I notice they're hanging close by and I'm like maybe they need spray paint too, I don't know. But then I hear them talking and they're describing in detail the characteristics of my children. They're saying blonde hair, blue eyes, maybe one years old, trying to get ages, and I just kind of ignore it. Okay, first off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're probably just speculating right within. No mask is her here's the deal.
Speaker 1:What Katie meant when she said not clean cut individuals were that they were Hispanic. Oh, I've seen these people. They don't look like they were fucking out digging holes.
Speaker 2:Like that's what I'm thinking Clang, clang, clang is like, like beer disheveled. Yeah, dirty clothes, Right they're just. Hispanic. Oh my god, that's just like you didn't try to hide your racism.
Speaker 1:So these people are Hispanic, assuming that they can probably speak Spanish. They're going to walk up with an ear shot of this woman and start describing her children in English yeah, right, yeah, yeah While standing right beside her. It's a weird approach to human trafficking. What do I know? I'm not a human trafficker, but anyways, Katie continues. I'm like maybe they're going to make a fuss because neither of my children are wearing masks.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's the fuss. I continue to get in line and I notice that they get in line right behind me. This is a very long line. It wraps around the store Like there's only two clerks checking people out. So I had quite a bit of time in line with them, but it wasn't until we got closer to the cash register that they picked something up. But as we're in line, there was this really nice lady in front of me and we were speaking about the kids and I don't know, just life, and I was doing the thing where you kind of nod and smile and act like you're listening, but really your ears are elsewhere, listening to what they were saying behind me. And this is when I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were talking about my children for purposes that were not appropriate or not. That didn't sit right talking about their eyes, their face, everything. And the thing that disturbed me the most was that the gentleman Get out of here.
Speaker 1:Sorry, Don't freak. This is really hard. You're the worst. The gentleman said to whoever he was talking to on the phone the boy will be. The boy will be easy because he's not wearing a mask, so clearly the mother doesn't care that much about him. Oh my God, who rages? She doesn't right. How could she? How could she? She basically wants him to get COVID.
Speaker 2:These other child traffickers are concerned with mask safety. I didn't think they would be.
Speaker 1:So I'm back to being Katie. Hold on, I can't tell you why I didn't turn around and say something right then, but I didn't even have the courage to shoot a mean look. I was paralyzed, paralyzed with fear, and I almost just discredited what was happening. I couldn't wrap my mind around the fact that this was actually happening. As we got closer to the front of the line, the lady in front of me said you know what? You have two kids. You go ahead. Mind you, the kids weren't throwing a fit at all, she wasn't like doing it, she was just being kind. And she said you know, I wish people would do more kind things. And I got to stop again, because when I do kind, things.
Speaker 2:You're not Kate. Now you're Lynn. I'm Lynn, you can tell, because my voice is a trigger Right and you stopped crying.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So when I do kind things I'm like, hey, do you even got that one item? Why don't you just get in front of me? And then, as they're walking by, I'm like don't you wish more people are kind like me?
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, I was like, hey, you want to go ahead and like, oh sure, Thank you. I'm like fuck him bitch. I was just trying to be fucking nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, You're only doing it to like sexy ladies.
Speaker 2:That's correct, and I'm only doing it when people are watching.
Speaker 1:So back to being Katie.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, it's like watching Meryl Streep.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. I did rehearsal a little bit last time, I'm not going to lie. So we check out quickly two items. And we walk out and I called David, my husband and I said to him, if we had a code word we talked about having a code word If we had a code word, I'd be using it right now. And he's like what the heck?
Speaker 2:Pancake, pancake pancake.
Speaker 1:He's like what are you talking about? And I was like I think someone was following me in the store and talking about the kids. And he's like what, what are you talking about? And I'm saying this, I feel someone walking right behind me, so I turn around and, sure enough, they're right behind me Again. This is Lynn. I will absolutely give my opinion on what happened later, but I have to say that there's an Instagram which is run by Katie's mom and it's called we Stand with Kate Sorenson and she puts up videos. One of the videos was them at the cash register, so they're standing at like parallel cash registers with their backs towards each other, so he pays for whatever items they purchased and then 17 seconds later, katie leaves and he turns on his heel and follows her right out almost as if they were together.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? Turns on his heel.
Speaker 1:Like he's facing. You know he's with his wife, they're paying. 17 seconds later Katie leaves and he instantly turns from the cash register and follows her out. So it almost does look suspicious because, he leaves his wife in there and he's already paid. But he will later on say that he typically will pay for something and then he'll leave right away. But it wasn't instantaneous, like I said, it was 17 seconds and like 17 seconds when you're watching a video like that, is an eternity.
Speaker 2:It is a long time.
Speaker 1:So it did look weird. But so back to Katie's post. They didn't even buy anything from the store. They must have put it down, Remember. I just said he paid.
Speaker 2:Oh yes that's right.
Speaker 1:Whatever they picked up to pretend to buy and followed me out. They noticed me, notice them. So they're going to their car. I start walking more quickly. I walk straight to my car. There's a white van parked exactly right next to my car. That van was positioned perfectly right next to my car, blocked my own car in a way that if people were around they wouldn't see what was going on.
Speaker 1:And I see the van and my stomach just sinks and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm too afraid to change directions that I'm going. I can't explain to you what I was thinking. There was no logic here. I was terrified. So I walked straight to my car, had the stroller next to me and I didn't lock it. So he just slides. She's talking about her kid in the stroller. He just slides barely, barely out of reach. As that's happening, I see the couple walking towards my car and they walk around, not the full perimeter but halfway around the car and they go back and forth around halfway and they're doing that thing again, where they're not looking at me so that I can't make eye contact with them. I'm looking right at them. They won't look at me and while they're doing that they're holding hands.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:She then goes on to describe how the man's hand was in a fist, and then his wife. She does this in her video and it's like this she was like holding the fist. She was holding his fist. Yeah, so she's thinking, you know, it's probably a gun.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:I don't know what she's thinking, but Romantic traffickers.
Speaker 2:Wow, I've heard of everything.
Speaker 1:The dangerous, the most dangerous, they say.
Speaker 2:Trafficker with a heart of gold. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1:Lockout so here we go again. She says to her husband this is happening. What do I do Like if this is transpiring the way it sounds like it is? What should I scream? Should I yell? So why is she still talking to her fucking husband?
Speaker 2:She's got a phone, get the fuck out of there. Like you're a mother, let's say you're in this scenario and I think the logic behind the van is that, with a sliding door, you know, when you load your kids in, they open the sliding door, they grab you, grab the kid, shut the door and they're off. Yep, you see that you suspect that, as a mother, you following through with your stride, you think, or are you just getting the fuck out of there?
Speaker 1:Okay, well, there's so many things that I would have done differently here, like if you are in the position in the store where you're so uncomfortable and you can hear them talking about your kids Mm-hmm, maybe grab an employee.
Speaker 2:Can you?
Speaker 1:walk me to my car, get on the horn with nine on one, take a fucking video of these people if they're following you this quickly and they're Within ear shot. Yeah you know what I mean. So that's what I said here. Maybe take a picture, or two more racist and fearful. We're gonna find out that Katie has.
Speaker 2:QAnon Fucking wicked. Oh man, I can't wait to hear what Q told her what to do.
Speaker 1:Do you know the whole deal with QAnon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, more or less.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that the guy was in. Was it five Chan?
Speaker 1:Yeah, fortune.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he branched off. Eight Chan, he branched off, or something. Yeah just a crazy conspiracy.
Speaker 1:Everybody thinks it was Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was in with Donald Trump's inner crew and yeah because everybody's a lizard except for Donald.
Speaker 1:I would think he's actually just trying to save us all from childhood sex trafficking. That's right, that's right so thank you to the big D.
Speaker 2:You're always thinking D you love it.
Speaker 1:I praise it. So Katie's about to tell us. You know what the plan is at this point. She has her one-year-old Buckled in the car. Okay into the baby seat. So she says, now she's got her four-year-old, who's just slipped out of reach, her go-to Is she's gonna lock herself and her son, yeah, in the trunk.
Speaker 2:Oh good call totally.
Speaker 1:Yeah maybe it was a scene that you have to be there to understand why the trunk was the best possible option. No, no.
Speaker 2:I got it. No, I'm gonna disagree with you there. Make sense to me, because I'm a fucking idiot.
Speaker 1:Where's Batman?
Speaker 2:Hiding from traffickers. Mom traffic no, it's different.
Speaker 1:So Katie is so focused on this plan to get in the trunk that she completely neglected the vans. Right, that's positioned in such a way that it blocks anyone else to see what's happening. So Katie goes to open the trunk. It's an automatic trunk, so it's like the fucking slowest, and so it's at the speed of molasses. And it's then the couple okay, so get this. This is literally what she says verbatim. The couple take two steps forward, and then they make two steps back, and then they pull up to.
Speaker 1:Matt shut up. This is fucking important. They go and then they make another two steps forward and then they make another two. Is there a fucking glitch in the matrix?
Speaker 2:So like an open line dancing.
Speaker 1:Okay, so my next line here almost sounded as if they were trying to square dance there in the parking lot.
Speaker 2:And that's a Paula do song two steps forward to step back Two steps forward like the opposite, the track. Yeah, cuz, ah, oh God. Okay so remember when Dave Cooley, a broker heart and she wrote you ought to know oh my god, matt, you work at a radio station. Oh, did I say Paula Abdul?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry fucking elanus more. I know.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I okay.
Speaker 1:Uncle Joey, what's in your coffee?
Speaker 2:Don't worry about it, I Know more questions.
Speaker 1:You're like I only know about beaver, that's right, so you know they were doing this. Weird to me it sounds like if your tape got, you had a scratch on your db. But then the man makes a sweeping motion. Well, he's trying to grab the stroller. Oh fuck with Finley, her four-year-old in it yeah but in that moment she sees that there's another car nearby. Oh boy, and it's a man who's in his 80s.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got back up.
Speaker 1:She said 80 plus here comes the muscle. No, no, no, oh, this guy is gonna save Katie, oh, yep. And he and Katie make eye contact and he looks at her with concern to say do you need help? And Katie Says she yells excuse me, can you help me please? Oh, my god. And she continues to explain, she goes. I was providing some already done that. Do that, did we? We saying that the hero, it was a very good I'm not gonna lie to you like it was pretty good, like Taylor Swift here.
Speaker 2:I can be a hero.
Speaker 1:If I asked you to dance?
Speaker 2:that I do. We also talked that Enrique is coming to Toronto with Pitbull and Ricky Martin, known as the greatest concert of all time.
Speaker 1:It's not known as the greatest concert. There will be what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2:Enrique a glacis Pitbull.
Speaker 1:Mr Worldwide, okay, I'm Mr 705 Enrique Martin that's what the greatest fucking concert of all time Are you? That is. That is okay. Here's what that is. That's 1997, 2003 and 2013.
Speaker 2:Trying to make a comeback first of all, Pitbull farts in it charts okay, and he has he done any of his own songs or is he just like wow? Hotel lobby ever heard of it? I've heard of a hotel lobby. Meet me at the who you can leave your boyfriend and meet me at the hotel room to leave your boyfriend and you see at the hotel room.
Speaker 1:When did Pitbull hotel lobby come out? Here's what I found 2009, my dude. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:All right, maybe he doesn't make no more bangers. Fine, I'll just shut up. Probably a club DJ, don't you want to be here? Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Dada.
Speaker 2:For the strippers that they're dancers, though the dancers that have to wear volleyball knee pads, because the stripping stage is made of concrete and that hurts your knees.
Speaker 1:I had a lot dancer. Yeah, I did. I did like baby powder.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, I had one that smelled like.
Speaker 1:Her name was cinnamon, but then she ended up getting wasted and telling us her name was Danielle. Oh, my god yeah yeah, we got real close.
Speaker 2:Tami, I said with an eye or a why she's like with both.
Speaker 1:Just one. I should pop set of glass.
Speaker 2:Here, you can use it later.
Speaker 1:And she's still my Christmas girl that's right, yeah, yeah so she yells for help and she continues to explain that this woman comes running over and then the couple they like she goes okay. And then this woman comes running over and the couple they drop Well, they didn't drop anything, they just stopped reaching for the stroller and they run and get into their car and in that moment I feel a rush behind me and I turn around and there's a man right behind me and he kind of plays it off like Do you need help or something? And I just look at him like I'm just paralyzed, I can't talk. He just gets in the van, shuts the door and drives off quickly and I drive off and I file a police report. And that is the extent.
Speaker 1:I am well aware of how different this could have played out. And what scares me the most is, despite the fact that I was in tune enough to pay attention to those signs, still there was so many ways that I dropped the ball and I was not prepared, as I could have been fat. And so my purpose in sharing this is to simply raise awareness and encourage you to not only be aware of what's going on around you. I was aware, but I just didn't know how to act. I did not practice how to act. I maybe thought in my head oh, that's what I would do if I was in that situation. If you don't really have a definite plan of what you will do, you're gonna freeze up. So there you have it.
Speaker 1:Katie finishes up her video by saying that's her video. She planned to make bulletin points on how to handle yourself should you end up being in this position. So she was gonna make bulletin points and you know, give us all advice on what she. But you know this took a lot out of her to just tell the story of what happened. But forgive me for saying this, but in my opinion, and going entirely off of what she states in the video, I would say that if her entire story is true which it's not but if it was Every single time she had to make a choice, she did the wrong thing.
Speaker 2:Why do I?
Speaker 1:want notes from you, I know yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:What are your notes gonna say?
Speaker 1:Hey, I want notes from the mum who thought quick on her feet and neither like fucking, you know, called the police, sir yes did literally anything. You just walked to your car and got lucky. But you know, neither her fight or flight kicked him. She just continued to walk into the eye of the beast. I'm pretty good stride. So Katie had filed a police report with the paddle in the PD for what though? I'm sorry, matt, did you miss the whole?
Speaker 2:Sorry. Yes, you're right, You're almost lost her Matt. My apologies she's Murphy.
Speaker 1:It's poor woman's been through hell and back and you're masculine's children. Exactly. That's just clearly here about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this really happened during the pandemic. Trust me, people were kidnapping kids that were wearing masks.
Speaker 1:For a second as I was watching this video, I was like Imagine the couple did do this, but it was just them like fucking with her cuz her kids weren't wearing masks.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that's a good break.
Speaker 1:They were just like just you know, let's fucking pretend, we're gonna kidnap these kids Like she's, maybe she'll care a little bit more and walking by and be like, hey, though a kid, do you be easy, don't worry about.
Speaker 2:That's what smart it for fuck full like Latin, like Latino, and they're just speaking Like loud English right in front of her. I love it. Oh, I hope you, I hope that.
Speaker 1:So you know, she made a police report and then the police headed over to Michaels so that they could check the security footage. And as they do. They, and now the police, did say that they found her story initially. Very first of all, when you're doing the, the two steps forward, two steps back, two steps forward to, I'd be like are you what's going on with you right now? Like, are you broken? Like what? Why do you keep repeating the same stupid shit? I imagine if you just tell people, just say yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So they check the security footage and when they did, they called Katie in to have her identify who followed her. Katie was able to say with 100% certainty of course the couple shown in the security camera were the ones that were trying to take her children and, as you can imagine, there's a lot of surprise. That was felt by Sadie and Eddie Martinez when they saw themselves from a security camera, still shot further Every day, run to Michaels where they had gone in to purchase a baby Jesus for their Christmas nativity side.
Speaker 2:Are shitting me right now. That's what they were buying.
Speaker 1:That is what they were buying. Oh, and that was likely. What was in Eddie's hand when he had something Copped in it?
Speaker 2:Baby Jesus, like how much more wholesome can you be? You can't. You're at Michaels with your wife and you're buying a baby Jesus.
Speaker 1:buying a baby Jesus and do you want to know what Sadie did for a little bit of extra cash? She was a regular at Michaels because she used to make well, she probably still does she makes balloon arches.
Speaker 2:Oh, like topiaries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are fucking cool. Yeah, so Sadie and Eddie actually had five children of their own, so they probably didn't want anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have three.
Speaker 1:Five I certainly would not be seeking it. I'm not seeking it anymore.
Speaker 2:Or three You're more of a reverse kidnapper, where you kind of donate them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly A kid give away. Yeah, just hang some kids on all these hooks. They have weird things in their pockets. It's usually just melted crowns and crushed up goldfish.
Speaker 2:But you would sell it, you would make it sound good and you get this kid that comes with some crushed up goldfish cracker. I love fishes because it's so delicious.
Speaker 1:So they had five children of their own. They were horrified to learn that they were being accused of sex trafficking yeah and they turned themselves in immediately. After viewing the security footage from Michaels, as well as the Coles next door, it was determined that things did not transpire the way Katie had claimed.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:There had been a white van in the parking lot, but it never came in any type of contact with the Martinez's or Katie. There was an old man, but he was. There was somebody who was caring for him and he certainly didn't interrupt.
Speaker 1:Oh or thwart any kind of a kidnapping. Eddie Martinez had made a big arm gesture at one point, but his explanation was that the entire time that they were baby Jesus shopping, mm-hmm. He was thinking about getting lunch at one of his favorite Chinese food restaurant places that was across the parking lot and once they had finished, he was looking towards the restaurant, only to realize that it was closed and that gesture was just one of disappointment. That is, and I've been there. I've fucking been there. I love it if you're just, if you have something percolating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it doesn't. You're not able to put that food in your face.
Speaker 2:Hmm it's disappointing and just love it, cuz you know the wife like listen, we gotta go to Mike, we gotta get this baby. Okay, all right, I'll go, but we get some lunch. Yeah, yeah, we'll get some lunch and we'll go Chinese food places, right it's right across the street, all right, but no, we're not getting any more balloon shit we got it all right.
Speaker 1:All I wanted some fucking, some young guy.
Speaker 2:That's it, and a baby Jesus so it was a disappointment.
Speaker 1:It wasn't trying to kidnap or steal stroller, yeah, but this had been Humiliating, like it really could have Interrupted their life you know.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah, especially if you could have gone the offensive in the parking lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah so they felt, and Sadie said specifically that they were guilty of being brown well shopping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they were convicted in the eye in the court of public opinion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they decided that, even though Katie was only a small part of a much bigger problem, they were gonna hold her accountable.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:They pushed for the DA to file charges against Katie and after the video was released there were some parts of Katie's recollection of events that did not match what she had initially called and reported to the police. Parts of me the story more salacious. When she had called the police, she never said that anyone reached for her stroller. Not only that, but the whole thing about her son being easier to take because she didn't care about him. That part was never mentioned to the police.
Speaker 1:The truth of the matter is that Katie was a mum fluencer and she had started her blog it was called motherhood essentials about four months before this incident happened, and before all of this she had about 6000 followers, but after the post about the Michaels event, her followers skyrocketed to 81.4 Thousand but aren't you just a raise like isn't, doesn't it like?
Speaker 2:this would just to me seem so logical that this Mum fluency is just being a racist person. Um, or are people like oh my god, this, yeah, they would totally believe, yeah never mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's called sad fishing like, even if it's a true event. Yeah like it's like you're Just putting your using for a bit of clout. Yeah exactly, so it's like most people like something bad happens and they're like oh, you know. Keep it up so pieces and deal with our shit. Yeah these influencers nowadays, or like I got to get online.
Speaker 2:Why it's like almost a benefit but like even just logic, if you're gonna have you know. Although, do you think she believed it? Do you think she believed her own bullshit?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what I think. Yeah, so Sadie would say I am married to a UPS man who is like norm from Cheers. Everybody knows him. Katie should have done her homework and picked some better characters for her story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly like. Why even finger anybody if you're gonna?
Speaker 1:especially call the police and all that kind of.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think she did baby Jesus, right, I just want Chinese food. I just I can't, I can't with these two fucking like holes right.
Speaker 1:So, truthfully, what I believe happened and this is just my opinion, mm-hmm it was discovered that, based on a long list of things fan on Katie socials before the fact she was quite obsessed with the Q and on sex trafficking, conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:There is even a picture of Katie. This is. I was writing my notes late last night and I had like four books on the go and instead of flipping through them, I said there's even a picture of Katie in front of a theater with a sign that read something along the lines of I Hate sex trafficking. That is absolutely not what the sign said, but it was somewhere. She's not for it did she go to?
Speaker 2:I wonder she bought into the pizza area the pizza gate.
Speaker 1:I want to cover that story too. Guys fucking kicking down doors. People are just like hey. Oh, the tally and it's supposed to be like an underground. That's what it is. I was supposed to be under the pizzeria. Yeah, there was no one on the pizza area.
Speaker 2:There's no basement, yeah and it was cuz her and Schumer wanted to order a pizza when they were Having a late night, whatever Senate session or something. Who? Hillary Clinton and, I think, chuck Schumer, oh really, Senator yeah. I think so.
Speaker 1:I just know about the guy that went in there fucking he took a light.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:He like flew from like somewhere to Washington and was like knocking in doors. But that's problem, right, you can get people that just need a little bit of a push and the problem is that we were all online and a lot of people that didn't have a purpose anymore Needed a purpose and they thought what better purpose than stopping sex trafficking?
Speaker 2:well and I think that it connects you. You know, the Facebook algorithm for me connects me with like-minded people. Now, fortunately, it's a lot of wrestling in 90-day content. However, if I am a bit of a racist and I'm searching anti black brownie, whatever the fuck, I think as a racist.
Speaker 1:I really would hope you're you're not doing this.
Speaker 2:No, I am not just looking up anti black and no, I'm not looking googling. I promise googling racist terms, but it would Connect me with Picture of this. I know so many rainbow yeah it's.
Speaker 1:You should get Sadie to make you a fucking balloon arch with.
Speaker 2:Yes okay no, my my get in touch with the pot my point is when you, you know, have interests, shared interests, whatever they are, if it's wrestling or Racism, you're gonna be connected, or bullshit or whatever. And so now, where is? Before, all these conspiracy groups had like a newsletter and the cabin in the woods. Now they're like hey, wait, this guy lives down the road, like we can connect with these people.
Speaker 1:The funniest thing to me was all the the Q and on people that I knew. They felt like they were privy to some sort of information that the rest of us weren't 100.
Speaker 2:That was Q, that'sq, and it's not like I can see all the same stuff you can see.
Speaker 1:Yes, like. I had this one guy, wally, and it's really sad because I loved Wally, we used to work together and he became very patronizing Because I had posted something about when I got really sick and he was like oh, it's in your head. And all this kind of stuff like it's not real and blah, blah, blah. And then he said something along the lines he was like I don't want to insult you, lynn, you're just so innocent, like it was a stupid comment.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like that's fucking patronizing. I was like for sure get lost, like and now that fucking Trump wasn't reelected on March 6th or whenever, to everybody.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, that's right I wonder what they're all doing like.
Speaker 1:Are they all like oh, I got some fucking bridges to mend?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are some odd Theories like it and there's just there's a lot of holes in them, right, like it's well Trump's the problem and I was watching this interview with this one guy who was an ex-Q. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And he was saying that what made him realize that it was all fucking horseshit was that they can make excuses for like these dates coming going and like these events not transpiring the way they thought they were gonna transpire. But when you list them out and you say this was supposed to happen and this was supposed to happen, oh, all the airs and and so once he had that in front of him on paper and all these different things that were supposed to happen Didn't happen, he was like, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah but like people were like severing ties from their families and stuff over this stuff. Oh, for sure once you were in the queue hole, you were like yeah it was so wild to me.
Speaker 2:I don't know who said it. They said the most dangerous thing in the world is a fucking idiot who thinks they're a genius.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right. And then they talk to you like you're fucking stupid because, all right. Well, you know what I've got, this information that you're not yeah, I've done the research.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, what was the website? It was alternate news source dot org. Slash alternate sheephole. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fuck off, wally. Your fucking name matches your personality, so let's finish this cuz, I know yeah, I told you 130, and I'm very sorry, mm-hmm. Oh god, are you mad at me?
Speaker 2:No, I don't give a shit Okay cuz I was late today too, so doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:You're like, I will yell you later.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, yes, you, you wait till your father. You know you change your voice as the influencer. You wait till I change.
Speaker 1:So you know. So Katie hated sex trafficking. That's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:Katie and I are on the same page there, yeah, so Katie was in the frame of mind that what I think happened. I think this couple did make her nervous and she said she didn't want to judge a book by its cover. But I think she absolutely judged the book by what she perceived to be the cover Mm-hmm, and that made her nervous. When Eddie followed her to the Michael store, she may have felt truly threatened and I think that she pulled away and her mind was probably rushing with like the what ifs and she created a story in a narrative with all of the worst things that could have happened and Then I think she decided to say that those things happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah because, in her eyes, it wasn't a complete fabrication. She was embellishing, for sure, but she was making it more salacious and that story, the one that she created, would pull in followers. And she was right. That's what I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that her head was already going in that direction, and then she just Created an entire story.
Speaker 2:I think you're right and Just kind of was like man Fuck it. I think that when you, I think when you are Level of this is a good story. Absolutely Well, when you are that far of a narcissist, you think that you can convince the police that these are sex traffickers. I think that she thought, for sure these people were going to jail right for sure for sex trafficking. I would a hundred percent think that she thought and she could convince no, did not give a shit.
Speaker 1:She's really cute too. I think you'd like.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, all right, that's all right.
Speaker 1:So, however, when her story started falling apart, instantly she turned her Instagram to private, which I was like yeah, I don't think you could say you were lying any quicker. Yeah, really turning your Instagram to private. But she had dragged a real couple into this and she called the real police and she made two very long ass videos. But some crazy shit that never happened. And then she allowed the police to release a pitcher of these innocent people who are wanted in connection or in Information with sex trafficking in our community going to allow this woman to make balloon arches for their children's birthday party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they call.
Speaker 1:She's a fucking sex trafficker. So her defense attorney tried to argue that she had simply misinterpreted the events, but at the end of the day Katie was convicted there we go I have one of the accounts of making a false police report. So she was arrested on three misdemeanor offenses.
Speaker 2:You should throw a hate crime in there too, I think. If you're accusing somebody based on their race, yeah, because that makes you uncomfortable for fucking reason. I think that that's a Sure. It's not straight painting a swastika. I think that it's oh yeah, damn it. She's cute she is. She could make up a story about me one day.
Speaker 1:Oh boy. So her defense attorneys misinterpreted the events but at the end of the day, katie was convicted of one of the accounts of Making a false report of a crime. She was sentenced in June of this year, 2023. Are you listening to me? Are you just looking at pictures over?
Speaker 2:I'd have a question. We're in that fucking hat in those videos. Oh no, we can take you seriously If you look like you got a fucking penis head on the top of your head.
Speaker 1:That's why we say so. She was sentenced in June of this year to serve 90 days in jail, and she was immediately remanded to begin her sentence nice. The Martinez has said that, although they feel bad for her young children that their mom is going to jail, that this is a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so fucking sweet, even fed.
Speaker 1:Sadie said do you really think that it's okay to go online and be racist and make stories up about a family?
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:This community, too, is very sensitive to these issues because, even though it was 30 years ago this year, polly class was a little girl who was taken from her home and murdered and the community Never fully recovered from it in Petaluma, and that's the case of mum flints or Katie Sorenson, oh, and she's also sentenced to 12 months probation and she is not allowed to be on any of her socials. So good luck to her with that one. I don't know what we would do without the random Facebook quizzes that tell us which character we are most like from friends, but she made her bed, so now she's got to sleep in it. I'm a Chandler.
Speaker 2:Fucking asshole. She is well, sir husband have to say about all this nothing.
Speaker 1:I can't find a fucking there's.
Speaker 2:No, he doesn't believe her, but fucking smart move. He thinks she's full of shit, but keeping his mouth Doesn't kind of remind you of that?
Speaker 1:well, it's not. Sherry Pappini was way worse, but remember when we covered cherry Pappini and she just beat the shit out of herself so that she could hang out with her Ex-boyfriend for 20 days?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I would like to find out if you are a blonde. Get in contact with us so I can spend a ton of time researching with you. Or researching you.
Speaker 1:Matt would like to research you.
Speaker 2:That's right, put your my books.
Speaker 1:God, okay, you have a car to shampoo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna shampoo a car, mom and I gonna go have a beer and then we're gonna watch my next, and I see Robertson one, our drop. Ah, you're so lucky. Yeah, no, that.
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