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The submarine murder on Kim Wall

December 26, 2023 Lynn & Matt
The submarine murder on Kim Wall
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The submarine murder on Kim Wall
Dec 26, 2023
Lynn & Matt

On August 10th of 2017, freelance journalist, Kim Wall received an invitation, that she had been hoping would have been extended for months.  Days before moving to China with her boyfriend, Kim was asked, by very well known entrepreneur; Peter Madsen, to join him in his self made Submarine which was called the UC3 Nautilus, and, he would grant her the interview that she had been hoping for.  Kim was only supposed to be gone for 2 hours, that evening, but when hours had passed and her boyfriend was was starting to get nervous, he called the police.  The next day, authorities would find Peter, on a life boat next to his sinking submarine, but Kim was no where to be found. What happened to Kim on that fateful launch? 

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On August 10th of 2017, freelance journalist, Kim Wall received an invitation, that she had been hoping would have been extended for months.  Days before moving to China with her boyfriend, Kim was asked, by very well known entrepreneur; Peter Madsen, to join him in his self made Submarine which was called the UC3 Nautilus, and, he would grant her the interview that she had been hoping for.  Kim was only supposed to be gone for 2 hours, that evening, but when hours had passed and her boyfriend was was starting to get nervous, he called the police.  The next day, authorities would find Peter, on a life boat next to his sinking submarine, but Kim was no where to be found. What happened to Kim on that fateful launch? 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Everything Scary. My name is Lynn and I'm here with my co-host local celebrity, sorry, sorry, international celebrity. Thank you, matt McClain.

Speaker 2:

Hello, hello.

Speaker 1:

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No, it's recording.

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That is true, and my eyes are up here.

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Speaker 2:

Can't stop. We love you. Patreon.

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Speaker 2:

Yep, I got the new ones. I got Michelle, melissa, megan, mandy, matthew and Jess.

Speaker 1:

Jess, come on, we need you to have an M name.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I wonder if when Jess gets into it a little bit and gets a little drinky poo if she's in Mexico, gotta be right.

Speaker 1:

So you know what I'm going to skip the biz. We've already recorded two episodes today, and we're just going to get down to business here.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So we love you guys. You're our favorite people.

Speaker 2:

Let's get down.

Speaker 1:

You got us and everybody's still here, regardless of Matt talking about his toe knuckles so. I think I mentioned it in the last one but I wanted to mention to the patrons directly that if you receive a card from us and you get some random drawing of anyone in the Lori Valo case story to be weird, just kind of it was helping Matt along with the story and he couldn't bear to throw up.

Speaker 2:

I definitely needed them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know you did and remember what happened with Joseph Ryan.

Speaker 2:

Joseph Ryan. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1:

When he died his card fell down.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the thing went over. That was weird. You're like look what just happened. That was weird.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you haven't listened to that episode, you can hear it in live.

Speaker 2:

I don't really buy into any of that crap, but man, that scared the crap out of me. Like there's not even is.

Speaker 1:

There was the fan on. There's not even really a draft.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean sometimes there's a breeze. It depends on if you had taco night. If we report on a Wednesday after you and your family have taco Tuesday, crack the window.

Speaker 1:

Here comes Lynn. That is not true. Everybody knows no classic Lynn. Just everyone knows that ladies don't do that. She's like hey man.

Speaker 2:

I'm like oh my God, Lynn, I love that dress. She's like it's not a dress, it's a romper. Oh my God, that's like pretty cute.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. So yeah, sorry if we're creepy, it is what it is. Matt couldn't bear to throw these things away and I said you know what? You shouldn't take them home. Like it's weird. So we decided we met in the middle and we decided to send them to you.

Speaker 2:

I insisted this is fine art.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, all right, ladies he compared me to Robert Bateman, which you guys might not know. He's a Canadian artist and I mean, I wouldn't say that I'm as good as Robert Bateman, but I guess other people would. I'd say everybody else's. I don't know, I don't think.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing that.

Speaker 1:

So this case, I was inspired to tell, because of the recent accident where the mini sub exploded.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

With five people on board who were going to try and get a look at the wreckage of the Titanic. I want to ask you how you feel about that particular.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's always sad when people die. Having said that, it was one of the most captivating news stories. Like I was obsessed with it, Right, I think. My opinion is I didn't realize how unregulated deep sea exploration is and how dangerous it is To me. You're more likely to die in the ocean, in deep diving, then in space, on a space station Like and there are so many regulations to get up to space.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

This just seems like you could start a company, get some investors and reinvent the submarine.

Speaker 1:

How do you feel about the wealthiness of the people on board?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm always. I always hate people that have more than me, as that's more of a jealousy thing.

Speaker 1:

Well, these guys were in like the 0.01%.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what do you mean? Like just.

Speaker 1:

I just I've noticed a lot of people are like the comparison to like the migrants. Well, they're ridiculing them because you know, with the money that was spent just to go and see the, basically this no listen, because if I had, I'd be doing stupid shit too. Like.

Speaker 2:

I, you know, listen, I like pro wrestling. I'd spend an if I had a lot of money, the amount of money I would spend on going to see like a good WrestleMania or something people would be like oh, that opulence is discussed, so I can't release. We all have our thing. Nobody gave a shit until this made headlines anyways.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know it was a thing. These guys were obsessed Because I am not in the 0.01%. Oh right, I was like you can pay to go see the Titanic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's different.

Speaker 2:

I mean, and I think it also launched a refascination of the Titanic Like Do you know who was allegedly.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how factual this is, but apparently Mr Beast was supposed to be on board.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, did you hear that? I saw that. Yeah, there was a couple of people that have come out, and so he was the most famous but.

Speaker 1:

But if he went down like wouldn't we feel worse because he's been very generous with his money?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think billionaires are kind of eccentric and so you kind of I almost write off billionaires as being like of normal thought in mind, because they're so out of it. But there's always that like Iron man had Pepperpot, you know the had. Gwen, and you need that right hand man, that right hand assistant, to say hey, listen, the island back. Weirdo, this is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

All of the people that know Deepsea Exploration have written letters to shut this company down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know you really want to go.

Speaker 1:

I'm super glad that you brought Iron man into this, because I know that when I'm making a lot of my life decisions, I think to myself what would Iron man do?

Speaker 2:

Who wears Pepperpot when you need?

Speaker 1:

her. But yeah, my daughter, she loves Mr Beast and she's like he's so great he gives away all this money she goes. Mom, did you know that? He's even turning his death into a competition? I was like what are you talking about? She's like when he dies, he wants all of his friends to put a hand on his casket or wherever, However, and the last person that's left standing there gets like the Mr Beast Enterprises. That's sad.

Speaker 2:

That is so right. You know there's a lot of hate towards Mr Beast.

Speaker 1:

Really, I don't know anything about him, only what my kids tell me.

Speaker 2:

And I don't really see it only other than I. It's probably just backlash Jealousy. I think so. And listen the guy. Listen, he's just a kid. He was kind of a punk shithead that made these prank videos that are hilarious, like he's dynamic. He's built an empire and he does good.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I said to Olivia how does he have this much money? She goes because he has subscribers. It's all of you, but he has subscribers because he has money right, Like he's just giving away money most of the time.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think so. I think a lot of sponsors came on board first. Now he's able to generate a lot of that money himself and come up with big prizes, like that giant squid game contest that he came up with.

Speaker 1:

I did see one of his videos where he, like, had adults in one room and kids in another room and like you were only allowed in these certain perimeters and you couldn't leave the room, and like so they were seeing if the kids lasted longer, if the adults last longer. And the room kept getting smaller, like they kept like fixing the lines so that they're smaller and smaller, and I think the kids won. They are smaller people, though, to be fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And kids are dumb. They're not smart enough to know how dangerous the world is.

Speaker 1:

And like we have like the placebo effect too, Like I think as adults. I'm like, do I have to pee?

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I could pee, I could pee, I could pee. Uh-oh Is it an emergency? Now it might be an emergency. You know what I mean. That shit happens. I get in my own head. I would never, I wouldn't stand a chance.

Speaker 2:

Like he got shit for I mean the term was kind of embellished a little bit, but essentially curing blindness for 10,000 people. Like he helped. There was a minor surgery you could get If you had a level.

Speaker 1:

Like cataract surgery yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you had a level of cataract surgery a minor surgery you can get and he funded for 10,000 people. That's pretty remarkable. So now you know, if they didn't have 2020 vision, some of them had blursome on no site. Now they fully restored site in 10,000 people's head and then Alex is using it for the views. Here's my thing. If you ask any of those people, hey, I can cure your blindness, but this guy's going to be using you for clout on YouTube.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that's right. Like if somebody's starving and you say like we're going to feed you for a little while, but you know it's for views, they're not going to be like. Well, you know I think. I'd rather starve.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, the starving thing is different, I think.

Speaker 1:

I don't think so. Well, I mean, it is different.

Speaker 2:

Have you seen some of those videos?

Speaker 1:

I haven't seen any of them except that one.

Speaker 2:

So people film themselves, not Mr Beast, but people film themselves feeding homeless people.

Speaker 1:

That's gross. It's extremely self-serving. It's really gross.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God. I know what you mean generally, though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Like I just don't. I don't think, yeah, like you said, I just don't think the people who are in dire straits for one reason or another are going to mind if it's like sure, yeah, it can be gross to watch people, you know, exploit these people, but I think that the people would rather be exploited than not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're going to look like. You know the only way he profits is more well, I guess, monetarily. I guess it.

Speaker 1:

Olivia says he's a really great guy and like there's one thing my seven year old knows, it's people's.

Speaker 2:

I will criticize him and the whole Jake Logan Paul Prime energy thing. I mean that stuff is so expensive. So Mr Beast has the cookies. Have you bought?

Speaker 1:

I don't know anything except for the fact that when I gassed up at an SO my kid had to go to the bathroom and he went in and he came out and he goes. Oh my God, they have prime. And I was like, what is prime? He's like it's an energy drink and I went in and I read the ingredients and it's a bunch of bullshit that I wouldn't feed my kids.

Speaker 1:

And I said and also, you guys don't need any energy. If you had energy I would die, yeah, Like if you had more energy than you already have. So he keeps wanting. One of these days I'll probably let them split one, but they say it's the, isn't Mr Beast that does prime.

Speaker 2:

No prime is either Jake or Logan Paul. One of the Paul brothers in KSI. My nephew's saying I'm obsessed with prime. Now they also have the water. It's not all energy drinks so you can get them a water. But yeah, it's again, it's all.

Speaker 1:

Like they start. They're at Costco now and get a case for like 30 bucks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's in the Mr Beast cookies are like 15 bucks.

Speaker 1:

And what do they give you?

Speaker 2:

energy or box of cookies. She's also got the chocolate bars.

Speaker 1:

Are they energy things?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Oh, they're just normal cookies. Yeah, okay, that's just stupidity.

Speaker 2:

And I'm all here, the showcase the SO On TV store has them all.

Speaker 1:

I can't go in there. There's too much Mario stuff. I buy all of the Mario stuff. Last time I was in there they had fucking the Mario hat with the racoon ears. I'm like, oh my God. I don't even care, how much this is.

Speaker 2:

They do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, not anymore.

Speaker 2:

I bought the one Like a winter hat.

Speaker 1:

Like the Mario hat, like the full, like Mario plumber hat with the oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's from Mario three, that's the P-Wing.

Speaker 1:

No, it's called the Tanuki. Okay, tanuki, I think that's what my kids say. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Fine, then Whatever?

Speaker 1:

Why did you get so mad?

Speaker 2:

Because you bought all the good hats. Okay, why do you love?

Speaker 1:

Mario. Now why do I love Mario? You're the hotsprung. Oh I mean I was going to go, for anybody would be Luigi.

Speaker 2:

Mustache, oh really, yeah, why skinnier? That's nice.

Speaker 1:

No, you know who I do have a crush on, though, an actual crush, and I always have Raphael from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Speaker 2:

They all look the same.

Speaker 1:

No, Raphael's got like he's brooding. He's very sexy. He is. Didn't you ever see like the actual movie, like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? And like Raphael goes off on his own like he's got to fucking think he's deep and Splinter has to go find him because, like you know, they need him back. He's got the size, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't like I think I was like eight when that movie came out. I wasn't thinking like, oh my God, raph, he's brooding on his own.

Speaker 1:

He's sexy, is what he is. I was like oh my God, how do they order pizza?

Speaker 2:

in the stores.

Speaker 1:

And, like I said you were there, cartoon pizza, for fucking get about it. Like the way the cheese oozes and everything. There's nothing more delicious looking than like fake pizza.

Speaker 2:

Did I tell you the best pizza in town? And then we'll get back to the pod.

Speaker 1:

No, tell me, Metro, metro, what?

Speaker 2:

the grocery store. Yeah, call ahead Stone ovens.

Speaker 1:

I have a stone oven, okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, nobody likes you.

Speaker 1:

Do your own fucking podcast, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Metro, the grocery store best beats in town.

Speaker 1:

When I first started dating my husband, I said something along the lines of like wanting a pizza oven. I also wanted to install like a red wine dispenser into the fridge. Go to the call he for one year. For Christmas he bought me like a $2,000 pizza oven and it's got like all like the big, like stones and everything, but it's really hard because it cooks a pizza in 90 seconds and so I would be like inside like doing the doughs and stuff like that and getting the pizza arranged and he'd be out there. He has the.

Speaker 2:

it's called something spit, Is it a spit? Uh yeah, the pit kind of is a spit.

Speaker 1:

And so he would. You have to turn it to get like the right angles on it, right, but I couldn't keep up with how fast the pizza would cook, and it's always like everybody all of our guests would eat their pizza and then I'd be, like you know, the last person's deleting my pizza while everybody's like getting drunk and playing outside.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah but.

Speaker 1:

I do like a good yeah metro eh.

Speaker 2:

And you have to call ahead. No, but you either that or you have to spend 40 minutes in metro.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I could do that.

Speaker 2:

Well, financially it's not sustainable. Oh, okay, For anybody it's quite expensive.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so let's get back to this.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm sorry, I'm sidetracking.

Speaker 1:

I'm leaving here to go to metro, though, yeah.

Speaker 2:

May 3.

Speaker 1:

So this story also involves a submarine, and our victim here is Kim Isabel Fredrika Vahl. It's a wall, but it's a wall. She's from Sweden. Kim is probably one of the most impressive people I've ever read up on. She was born March 23rd of 1987. She was an award-winning Swedish reporter After attending high school at Memor Borkela.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's it for sure.

Speaker 1:

Kim went to Lund's University in Sweden and studied peace and complex studies.

Speaker 2:

That's a wicked course.

Speaker 1:

But we'll just wait, and there's more.

Speaker 2:

But wait, act now.

Speaker 1:

She would later get her bachelor's degree in international relations from London School of Economics and Political Sciences in 2011. Apparently, that school is very hard to get into.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

She would also study in Beijing and graduated from Columbia University in New York after studying international affairs. Also.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I went to radio's college in North Bay.

Speaker 1:

But to be fair, you're really good at radio.

Speaker 2:

That is more or less a fake statement, but I appreciate the sentiment.

Speaker 1:

It's true, but also at Columbia. Kim would get her master's in international business, with an extension with a focus on journalism. Oh, and in her downtime she was also learning Mandarin, which was super chill. Oh my God, Because Mandarin? I heard that it's easy peasy to learn.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, language is based on symbols and zettelettas. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

No problem, and for her time at Columbia she would receive a scholarship from the Sweden American Foundation. Anna Roosevelt was the CEO and member of the committee and she would say everyone who receives a scholarship is super competent. These are the top abilities. You will get it because you are that good.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's it. That's all she does, the end of her lackluster academic career.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't have time, man. She's out there handing out scholarships to fucking people that have more brains than their pinky fingers, than I have in my entire body. But some of Kim's work would appear in the Guardian, Vice Time, the New York Times and Slate, and her pieces have been translated many different times and into many different languages.

Speaker 2:

But not Mandarin. She probably did that herself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she didn't have, she just wrote it. I got it.

Speaker 2:

We're going to send this to a translator.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Actually, please, I got this.

Speaker 1:

I could translate that in my sleep. Give me a pen. So on Thursday, august 10th of 2017, kim and her boyfriend, ole Stobe, were preparing to host a going away party at their place in Rev Shalun. It's got symbols in it.

Speaker 2:

Rev Shalun.

Speaker 1:

Rev Shalun. I put it into the translator and asked it to tell me this word in Denmark yeah, and Rev Shalun. Rev Shalun, yes, which is an island in Denmark which, for the record, has a remarkably low crime rate. So we probably won't hear much from Denmark for the pod.

Speaker 2:

But I think generally those Nordic countries have a pretty low crime rate. They have like.

Speaker 1:

No wonder she has so much education, because all of their schooling is paid for.

Speaker 2:

Oh really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they actually, I think, statistically, are like one of the happiest, like their depression rates and stuff like that are really really low over there.

Speaker 2:

Wow, the Swedes.

Speaker 1:

They know what they're doing. So the couple had planned to move to China, so this was a chance for them to say goodbye to all of their friends. Right around the time that their first guest arrived, kim received an email from a man named Peter Madsen. Does this ring any bells? Mm-hmm, okay, peter was a well-known entrepreneur in Denmark. Oh, he was born January 12th of 1971 to Annie and Carl Madsen. Carl was 30 years older than Annie, and Carl was also verbally and physically abusive to the three children that Annie had before she and Carl wed. Oh God, oh God.

Speaker 1:

And when Peter was only six years old she would take the other children and leave, as it was well known that Peter was Carl's favorite and Annie was sure that he would not hurt his golden child. So she had three before him and Peter was their child that they shared. So from a very young age Peter was absolutely fascinated with submarines and rockets, and his dad would share in those interests. At 15 years old he developed a meter-long rocket and on his own, would launch it on March 3rd of 1986. It would reach 330 feet before crashing back down to the ground.

Speaker 2:

I mean I've done that.

Speaker 1:

Mine reached actually 400 feet, so Model rockets.

Speaker 2:

I did 150 and two. Something was the highest.

Speaker 1:

How do you find out how high they go?

Speaker 2:

It's the charge, so the battery, or whatever they call it, the blast, you'd have to buy it and there's, you know, 60, 120s. I think that's how it worked, all right.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to take your word for it.

Speaker 2:

I actually remember. We live in Florida at the time Model rockets surprise, I'm so single.

Speaker 1:

Can I just ask you a question? Do you think and this is not a slight do you think you might be responsible for the Blue Jays not winning the World Series?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, yes, I do.

Speaker 1:

Because you were in the States for the two years back to back that they won the World Series. Is this a sort of subject for you, did I just like?

Speaker 2:

Well, not up until yesterday, when I realized that this year I am I think it was two and seven for wins and losses in the nine games I've been to. So I mean normally not that sort of subject, but just with what transpired I'm fine. It's like we celebrate our nation's birthday or anything.

Speaker 1:

I'm really sorry. I mean to be fair in your defense. It's really hard for them to get into the World Series right Because of.

Speaker 2:

The suckiness of the two.

Speaker 1:

Because of the fact that you're in Canada. Jk. Lol Thank you TY. So it would reach 330 feet before crashing back into the ground. Didn't hurt anybody, we're all good. Madsen never had any real formal education, but he was technically a genius.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Madsen married his first wife in 2011, at the age of 40. We don't have any information on her. Her name was never released, and I'm sure she would hope to keep it that way, because once we really dive into who Peter is, he's a piece of shit. Oh so anyone in the right mind would want to distance themselves as much as they possibly could.

Speaker 2:

Should we issue a piece of shit warning?

Speaker 1:

A trigger warning. He's a piece of shit. Whee, as an adult, peter would build three submarines the UC-1 Freya, the UC-2 Craca and the UC-3 Nautilus, the last of which we will be talking about today.

Speaker 2:

Really, I would think the Craca Small. What's the issue? We have a crack. Wait, in what vessel the Craca you are? Wait, you're shitting me right now. You got to be kidding me.

Speaker 1:

Ze-ho-l-in-ze-sing.

Speaker 2:

Ze-ho's been breached.

Speaker 1:

So this was considered midget submarine.

Speaker 2:

Little person, little person submarine, I don't. Does he smaller?

Speaker 1:

Oh boy, I'm sorry. Midget submarines, I mean small submarine. I don't know, I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2:

Soon, as they're a wrapper like a little sub L-I-L. A little submarine.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, thank God, this is a Patreon episode, so it was first launched on May 3rd of 2008, and it cost about $200,000 US to make.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Peanuts, peanuts yeah.

Speaker 1:

So Kim had been trying to get an interview with Peter for quite some time now. She had even had an open line of communication with him for a little while, a few months earlier, but that dwindled off. So on this night they had arranged this get-together and Peter had emailed Kim and said that he wanted to give her the interview that she wanted and he would like to do it. Abort, the UC3 novelist after discussing it with her boyfriend. What a flex.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure I have the interview, but listen, my office is doing some renovations. You want to hop aboard my homemade sub, the novelist.

Speaker 1:

It's actually way darker than that.

Speaker 2:

Oh hi, Do you want to come into my sub, the novelist Right? I forgot it was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not the morning show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I forgot the tone.

Speaker 1:

It's not just Terry. What's up?

Speaker 2:

Terry is just giving you information on a sub.

Speaker 1:

This is going to get bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's right. I get confused where I am.

Speaker 1:

So, after discussing it with her boyfriend, he encouraged her to go, probably Ironiously, he would probably not thrilled with his decision later on. But who knows who would ever possibly have known that Peter was a well-known public figure. Everybody knew who he was. He was this eccentric entrepreneur that was inventing all these submarines. So he was only supposed to be about for two hours, that she would go and she could return to the farewell party afterwards. He told her that this was an opportunity that she would not want to pass up. So neither Kim nor Odey could have known that before contacting Kim, peter had contacted four other journalists hoping to get them on his submarine, but they had all declined. By the time that Kim decided to go, 10 of her guests had arrived and she had informed them that she would return shortly, and at about 7 pm the Nautilus would depart with only Kim Val and Peter Madsen on board.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, so the call for the interview came while she was having the party.

Speaker 1:

Right. So he said like it's now or never.

Speaker 2:

I got ya and she's like listen.

Speaker 1:

I gotta go.

Speaker 2:

This is a big opportunity. Yeah, of course, babe Get out there. Yeah, this is big. Yeah, oh, that poor bastard.

Speaker 1:

And him and like a bunch of their friends would also hop aboard a sailboat and they would watch as Kim left and like they took a few pictures so there is like a few pictures of her just going out so she would wave and they wave back at her and no one could have known that this was going to be the last time that they would see Kim Val. They also could not have known that Madsen had just been hours watching snuff films.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, are those real? Yeah, well, like fuck.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. So he was trying to get himself worked up enough to do the unthinkable.

Speaker 2:

Snuff films, by the way, are films of actual brutal crimes like a murder and rape and just beating the shit out of people and just being a general fucking asshole.

Speaker 1:

Usually with a sexual undertone.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

He had also packed with him bonded straps, a knife, screwdrivers and a large wood saw. Kim did have a video camera with her that has never been recovered. So Kim's boyfriend, ode, said that at first he was receiving text messages from Kim and everything was seemingly fine and it looked as if she was having a great time. Her last message read I'm still alive, by the way, I'm going down now. I love you. He brought coffee and cookies, and then the message just stopped and the time kept ticking on On the two hour mark, when Kim was supposed to be home. It came and went and by 1.30 am, ode called the police. On August 12th of 2017, peter Madsen was found and rescued by the Navy from a sinking submarine. He had swam out to a lifeboat, but Kim was not on board the submarine. After questioning him about Kim's whereabouts, peter said that he had dropped her off safe and sound the night before at a waterfront restaurant, but security footage told a different story and he was placed under arrest for the involuntary manslaughter of Kim Ball.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

In their investigation of Peter Madsen, authorities would come to see that he had a large collection of snuff films and that he was even once asked to leave a BDSM club that he was part of. Like I said, peter was married and it was said that their marriage was an open one, and at least two of his mistresses would come forward and say that Peter would almost always take things too far and that he'd like to wrap his hands around their neck.

Speaker 2:

Oh geez.

Speaker 1:

He then tried to say that he was going into the sub and the heavy hatch had fallen on Kim's head, killing her and forcing him to discard of her body. But 10 days later, this story would also change, because that's when the naked torso of Kim Ball would wash upon shore Her legs, head and arms had been sought off.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Sorry. So he said now that while he was on the surface, kim was below deck and she somehow had succumbed to carbon monoxide poisoning and he would claim, in order to get her through the small hatch opening, he was forced to dismember her.

Speaker 2:

I mean, and just happened to have a saw Honest that's exactly right.

Speaker 1:

A wood saw on a submarine.

Speaker 2:

I suspect it's not made of wood.

Speaker 1:

Or in need of sawing. I wouldn't think so again. He said that he discarded her body at sea, but divers would find Kim's limbs and the saw and the knife all wrapped in plastic. They also would eventually found her head, would clearly had no signs of having been hit with the door hatch, which I think we already figured out. Yeah. Her torso, however, did show 15 stab wounds, 14 of which were located in the groin area and inside the groin area. Oh Box, sorry. Of course, his charges at this point went up and he was convicted of murder and sentenced to life behind bars. Virginia's, this guy was a sloppy idiot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, really since he had been in jail, peter seduced a female prison guard Before she was transferred out of that prison. Um so my favorite murder did this case when it first happened in 2018, and they said that he looked like an ugly version of Danielle Craig, and that's very accurate really yes so he also briefly escaped from jail oh okay before being caught only about 400 meters from the prison.

Speaker 1:

For this act, peter had an additional 21 months tack onto his prison sentence, which, like I said, that's it for the death of Kim ball was a life sentence, but sadly, in Denmark a life sentence only carries a term of 16 years. Wow, so with the new charge she was nearly at 18. He also met a woman who had later become his second wife. Her name was Jenny Kierpen. She's a self-proclaimed artist and the two tied the knot in December of 2019, but thankfully for Jenny, she came to her senses and a couple divorced in early 2022 and, to quote Jenny, she said it was a hard decision due to the whole situation. It was a moral choice, as almost all serious steps in life what the hell? I think she came to terms that he was a murderer.

Speaker 1:

Started to believe it and look, that was the quick wrapped up case of the murder of Kim ball.

Speaker 2:

Wow crazy, eh like what a fucking Bright light that got completely taken off the earth, though, yeah, like all that, all that brain, like just the intelligence Right, and so I think, all through all that schooling, her parents now have.

Speaker 1:

It's like the Kim ball Foundation and it's to fund. Like what Kim was working towards was like trying to give people a voice who didn't have a voice. Like she went to like impoverished countries and stuff like that and did a lot of articles on that kind of stuff. She went to Sri Lanka and did a big piece on that but so what they want to do is fund people that don't have the voice.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow, yeah so.

Speaker 1:

I mean, of course, good came from it, because how those people fucking made this person Like she's incredible. So they must be pretty incredible too, but that is a.

Speaker 2:

It's a sad one but like horrifying, like that would be like a horror movie in the water too.

Speaker 1:

What are you gonna do? Even if you fucking overpower him?

Speaker 2:

You don't know how to steer this thing well, and it's yeah, and it's not like you can just Escape and jump into the water, like you're in the water all too deep, like yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, that's terrifying. I learned about myself that I and I didn't think I really had any fears until I tried to go scuba diving. Mm-hmm and I Instantly had a panic attack and it's just like. First of all, your breathing is a little bit labored because you're breathing into, like this small Thing, right. So it's different than normal breathing and just completely being out of my element, like I'm just Pressure on your chest.

Speaker 1:

It was terrifying and I couldn't do it and like we had already paid for, like us to go down and do this. And then I was like I don't think I knew it, and so I sat on the boat for a bit and I like tried to get my wits back and then I tried to go under again and like right away I was just like I don't have it, like I didn't, and it was a fear that I didn't know that I had wow.

Speaker 1:

So this is a terrifying situation that Kim was put in and she was, you know, just trying to be the best at what she did. This guy had to kill journalists or something.

Speaker 2:

He was out to just kill women right now is the easiest way to get somebody to his self. He was extent everybody wanted the story, I guess, or?

Speaker 1:

he, he, um had made a couple because he hired mostly people that worked for him were like on a volunteer position, mm-hmm, and he had made some like off-handed jokes about having them under there and like doing things to them and stuff like that, and they just thought it was him being an eccentric weirdo but, Apparently, he's not just an eccentric weirdo, he's a piece of shit too, all right.

Speaker 2:

Don't trust people with submarines.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the understatement of this. You can take one thing away from this podcast yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2:

Stop visiting sunken shit.

Speaker 1:

Don't do it, guys. Okay, thank you so much for being our patrons. We love you, bye.

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