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ACTUAL Gypsy Rose Blanchard Part 1
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Welcome to Everything Scary. My name is Lynn and I'm here with my co-host local celebrity, sorry, sorry. International celebrity, matt McLean.
Speaker 2Hello, hello.
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Speaker 2Here we go and go.
Speaker 1Are you ready for it?
Speaker 2Is he a one of them all? Or I saw that the Super Bowl media day happened and Travis Kelsey answered like every question about Taylor Swift with like just class indignity. I thought it was fucking wicked.
Speaker 1You know what, at first I kind of thought that Travis was a bit of a dope dito. Yeah, well, I mean no he fucking handles himself in a very, very classy way without saying anything. Yeah, no, travis is great. Did you see them at the? Well, obviously, the game that got them into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1And she ran in there and he was just going to give her a kiss on like the forehead and she like went full for it. And somebody said to her you know you're on camera and she goes. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2Nice, I'm like that a girl Tay, I did see he was like all right, I'm going to go hang with the boys.
Speaker 1He did that.
Speaker 2Yeah, Cause after the game he's like I'm going to go lock a room, hang with the boys. And she's like, yeah, go do your thing, or whatever. I love it. I think it's fucking wicked. But, like an. I have never been into football more in my life.
Speaker 1Oh my God, it's the next Sunday. I'm fucking throwing a full. I'm going to get me and my daughter like shirts that says like go, taylor's boyfriend, I love it. That's what I have to. Yeah, I think you have to, right.
Speaker 2Dang right. So good morning or hello, good afternoon, good evening, whenever you listen.
Speaker 1Whatever qualifies for when you're listening to this how was your vacation to Florida?
Speaker 2Terrific. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, I had an amazing time with my nephew's waylin and rakes and my brother-in-law.
Speaker 1Rakes is a little cute tiny baby Rakes is a cute little tiny baby. And what is he for?
Speaker 2He is three.
Speaker 1Yeah, did you have a class photo that you showed me?
Speaker 2Yes, yes I had a little bit of a slip sleeve. Oh no, not a class photo, a school photo, sorry, just an individual photo. Oh, she just got like an interview, or maybe at the preschool. I'm not sure how it works.
Speaker 1That's adorable.
Speaker 2But yeah, yeah, no, it was awesome. Yeah, we had a great time. We were actually staying in Tampa and didn't realize that the event was in St Petersburg, which is a little bit out of the way, so we ended up staying at a resort for a night, which I didn't realize. Resorts exist that weren't all-inclusive in the Bahamas, to make whatever.
Speaker 1They're just called hotels.
Speaker 2No, these are resorts. You get a wristband. There's not all-inclusive, there's an all-inclusive package. You can do Really, yeah, you stay on the resort. It was crazy.
Speaker 1I used to go to Dunedin for the Blue Jays Spring Training.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 1The first year that I went, we stayed at like a Howard Johnson and it was like 45 bajillion dollars yeah, Exactly, and it was like a seat right in front of me. But the next year we went we rented a condo and it was like half the price and you got a full-ass condo with like a kitchen and everything in it.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1It was insane, and Dunedin is like one of the most beautiful places ever been Gorgeous, isn't it?
Speaker 2It's just got like interlocked roads and stuff Like what the fuck? Like a perfect little town. I know it looks fake. It looks like something that the Hallmark Channel produced Exactly. Yeah, so Home of York. Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 1Just a quick note off the top of the show here. I had made a poll on Facebook asking if listeners would like a deep dive on this case or if they had already heard too much about it, and a whopping 75% of you said that you had already heard too much about it.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1And well, the joke's on you, because I had already finished my story. I'm doing it anyways, motherfuckers.
Speaker 2Okay, here's where I'm at. I'm sick of her now, not back then.
Speaker 1You know, god, I'm so torn on this because I have heard, like I have another podcast host that I've been talking to in my DMs and she was saying that like she's always been such an advocate for Gypsy, and then she comes out and she just shares too much, but it's like she didn't get to share fucking anything.
Speaker 2I agree.
Speaker 1She's like 32 now. Like you know what I mean. It's like she didn't get to have an adolescent, she didn't get to have a childhood. If anyone couldn't have guessed we were doing Gypsy Rose Blanchard today it's going to be a two-parter because there's a fucking ton that goes into this case. So here is the case that nobody wanted, and I also wanted to say thank you to our newest patrons, laura Coates, who signed up for an annual subscription. Thank you, laura Fucking. Thank you, laura, so much.
Speaker 2I'll be doing it, but thank you Card for her today.
Speaker 1You really need to get on the While we're at the.
Bizarre Facebook Post and Murder Discussion
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Speaker 1So much for joining, and Melissa Atkinson. We appreciate all of you guys. Love it Would not even believe.
Speaker 2Are they all on the Facebook page? Melissa Atkinson sounds like a familiar name.
Speaker 1I believe Melissa is. I believe Billy is.
Speaker 2Coates, get on it.
Speaker 1Coates, come on what?
Speaker 2are you doing? Come on. Like literally what are you doing? Like name coats, like is that a fun name to have, or is every asshole just like going to put you on to getting cold out? Okay?
Speaker 1My main name was Petrick and people would be like what are you going to show us? A poo?
Speaker 2trick. Oh that's fucking, no, that's just funny though.
Speaker 1Okay, shut up. So you know, in our Patreon we just literally minutes ago we recorded the Oscar Pistorius case, and I really don't know where I land on.
Speaker 2You're on the fence. What do you think? What do you think Guilty 100%. You say 100% guilty. I think he did it out of that if he just wanted to murder somebody that night.
Speaker 1I feel like you should not be a cop or a lawyer.
Speaker 2That's a good call.
Speaker 1Because people would be like this guy did it and you'd be like done, he did it. Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 2That's it Okay, did the cops say he did it. Okay, put him away.
Speaker 1I don't want to hear it anymore.
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Speaker 1So before I dive into this case, I wanted to read you an actual article that came out in 2015. So here it is.
Speaker 2Thank you, I hope so.
Speaker 1The article is from the Springfield News Leader.
Speaker 2Oh, that's cute.
Speaker 1Adorable plan. I love it and it reads. A bizarre Facebook post led friends and neighbors to check a woman's home just north of Springfield this weekend and on Monday morning their worst fears were confirmed Didi Blanchard, 38, choose 48. They did right.
Speaker 2I was going to say she was 38. I hear my life together.
Speaker 1Was found inside her home after an anonymous person posted online and claimed her responsibility for killing her, authorities say meanwhile, blanchard's wheelchair-bound daughter was reported missing, only to be found Monday morning in Wisconsin along with a man. Authorities are calling a person of interest. Investigators were set up all day Monday around Blanchard's pink house on the 2100 block of North Volunteer Way and Green County Sheriff Jim Arsenal said detectives traveled from Springfield to Big Bend, wisconsin, where local authorities found Didi's 19-year-old daughter, gypsy Blanchard, safe on Monday morning. Arsenal said that the man arrested with Gypsy is not yet being called a suspect and his name has not been released. When asked whether Gypsy, who neighbors say suffers from leukemia and muscular dystrophy, is a suspect in her mother's killing, arsenal replied we're not ruling anything out. Investigators have not yet determined a motive in the killing. Friends and neighbors say that they can't imagine why anyone would want to harm the friendly mother who moved to Springfield from Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 1A Facebook poster claimed responsibility for Didi's death with a vulgar post made Sunday afternoon to an account that is shared by Didi and Gypsy. Friends went to the family's home to make sure everything was okay, and nobody answered the door. One neighbor entered the home through a window to check on the mother and daughter, but the neighbor did not find anyone inside. The Green County Sheriff's Office was called to investigate after obtaining a search warrant, and deputies entered the residence and found Didi deceased, of a violent nature. Arsenal said that he did not believe the killing was random and that the public is safe. He said that it was a targeted event and they said that investigators are working to track the Facebook posts and also look into other leads. Kim Blanchard, a close friend to the Blanchards, who is not related.
Speaker 2I was like, oh, you screwed that one up. Nope, never mind, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1Who is not related was among the friends who went to check on the family on Sunday afternoon. Blanchard said she thought something was off when she saw the Facebook post but initially thought that they can't had been hacked. It's like the longest article ever when Didi wasn't answering calls or knocks at the door. However, blanchard believed something would be seriously wrong so she called 911. There were so many unknowns then. This morning to have this information about Didi come out was devastating, blanchard said. It's just the worst heartbreak you can think of. Blanchard said that Didi was one of the most giving people she knew and that attitude might have come from the woman's experiences during Hurricane Katrina. It may have been part Katrina or it may have been part of her, but she gave everything. Blanchard said she gave of herself and she gave of her stuff. An autopsy was performed on Didi's body Monday afternoon, but ours not declined to give specifics on how she was killed. Oh my god, it's just gonna be me reading this fucking article for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1Kevin Krobius here, who lives three doors down from the blanchard said DD used to invite everyone in the neighborhood To a movie at her home on the weekends, where she would project movies onto a large screen in her yard. He said that he was in shock and Monday afternoon upon hearing the news that a woman with this sweet Louisiana accent was dead, she was the nicest lady in the world, he said. I can't believe how anybody could have a bad word to say about her. Other neighbors said that she was always coming up and asking if we need anything from Walmart or wherever they were going. They're kind of like family to us. Carrie Ackens says Gypsy always had an upbeat attitude, despite suffering from muscular dystrophy and leukemia. Angelique orver lord lived around the block from the blanchards and she said that her daughter used to attend movie nights at DD's house. She would bring us Christmas cards and cookies. She was just real giving. I don't understand why anybody would want to hurt her.
Speaker 2It is amazing how Somebody can have a reputation like hers.
Speaker 1So good.
Speaker 2So off the real person.
Speaker 1Don't you think that you would at some point be like? You know she's so nice, but like something seems a little bit off.
Speaker 2Yeah, like this is kind of an older reference, but Kathie Lee Gifford, when she was with, read just when I was younger and watch it she was just a little too Nice and Gifford oh, thanks. Oh, I mean, she had her clothes made in the sweatshop but I don't know she how much she knew about that.
Speaker 1So maybe she was just too nice.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Um, so I'm almost done with this article. I promise it's not just me reading a fucking article. Another neighbor, cheryl God, said that she had known the mother and daughter for the past eight or nine years. They were very sweet people. Thank you, jesus, god said. Upon learning gypsy blanchard had been found, the Waukesha County Sheriff's Department of Wisconsin sent out a press release saying deputies located gypsy after receiving a request from Green County authorities To check on the residents in the village of Big Bend. More than 60 people attended a vigil for DD on Monday night in the square in downtown.
Speaker 2That's it 60.
Speaker 1well, for the nicest lady in the community, she'd only moved there after Hurricane Katrina, so many of those in attendance said that they knew DD through vision con, the gaming and sci-fi convention.
Speaker 2Oh yeah woof.
Speaker 1The blanchards are big fans of Star Wars movies. The attendee said a Habitat for Humanity is urging local communities to support the family.
Speaker 2The news is oh man, hey, just wait a second, people, before you put out your statements. When someone's dead, it's crazy.
Speaker 1The news is devastating for Habitat for Humanity and the families, larry Peterson, the executive director, said in a news release so you know I think that probably everyone's heard. With this case, what do you think?
Speaker 2I think so. That's my gypsy rose impression. By the way, it's a 10.
Speaker 1It's really really good. Can you do it again? Thank you, oh yeah, I say the D is fire.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 3Say it.
Speaker 2All right. Oh listen, all you haters seem to back off. Okay, they're just jealous, babe, because that D is fire Gypsy.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh you're with a cold water bottle. Hang it out a aw world champion so Gypsy was just released from prison on December the 28th, which kind of seems like an asshole to move to me like, they're like. Why not three days earlier, like fucking release on Christmas?
Speaker 2Oh yeah, what are the three days gonna do? Maybe she was, maybe they were looking at it. You know how. We're gonna release her on the second. Put her you know what. Let's release her before New Year's and she can have some plans.
Speaker 1I said New Year's, that is a thing now, matt, like the baby voice and women is an actual thing when it comes to like Traumatic events that happen in your childhood. So if you ever meet someone who has a baby voice, it's probably not a great idea to openly mock.
Speaker 2Oh shit, I Yep definitely have done that.
Speaker 1What would you do, if you like? Finally met your fiance Caitlin, and she was a Hi Kinda with the blondes.
Speaker 2You gotta give him a little bit of grace.
Speaker 1If gypsy was blonde, you'd be like this is fine.
Speaker 2I'd be like, listen, you sound great. And I love babies Like you have the voice of a generation.
Speaker 1It's a fucking infant. So you know, gypsy was released. She served eight and a half years of her ten-year sentence For organizing the death of her mother, dd Blanchard. You and I, a couple recordings ago we had, you know, put just a. Free conversation yeah up on our patreon. It wasn't scripted. I had very little facts in front of me, so this is definitely gonna be a bit more organized. It is gonna be two parts.
Speaker 1Whoa a two parter and for the first time in the history of this podcast, I am leaving after part one and then we are gonna record part two. Yeah, that's weird, so like are we gonna forget?
Speaker 2Oh, that's why you said that text. Oh my god, that's why I thought it was so fucking weird that you said that of course it makes complete sense and, yes, yes, I would like a copy of the scripts it reviewed before we were my god. I didn't realize we were just doing um sorry. Yes.
Speaker 1I told Matt that I would send him my script from this episode before we recorded for part two so that he could brief himself, because I think anyone who's listened to this podcast for more than five minutes. No, it's a matter of no shit knows that Matt does not retain any information. He does. I'm fairly certain he actually doesn't think the murder exists.
Speaker 2Never.
Speaker 1So that's, that's what you just heard.
Speaker 2Yes, I realize that, maybe course you make sense. I love, yes, I think it's a great idea. Whoa.
Speaker 1So this is definitely gonna be a little bit more organized and a factual telling of the events. So if you're on our patreon, you heard us chat about it, but still listen to this episode because it's it's a lot more detailed, and I wanted to start off by saying that you and I seem to have differing Opinions when it comes to this case.
Speaker 2Yes, what is yours? You are.
Speaker 1I don't really think she's should have been in jail at all. Yeah, you don't feel that way because you bleed blue.
Speaker 2What is that? Is that the oh police?
Murder, Guilt, and the Law
Speaker 1Yes, oh you agree with everything, every Legal stance. You're like if I was to bring cop in here right now and say that your dog. Clark had murdered somebody, you'd be like well, clark, you got a fucking go to jail then I mean he is taking out a few birds.
Speaker 2He's like isn't this the present? I'm like ah, Ah, that's a horrible. Yeah, I like wrestling that. Birds with no heads.
Speaker 1Clark, and then you call the police. That's why they're.
Speaker 2Never thought about that.
Speaker 1Calling the cops on your dog.
Speaker 2Well, okay, I think OJ is guilty and they use.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think that's the only one though. Yeah like normally, I'm like. And then they put this guy, who I can give you like facts that he didn't do it.
Speaker 2Well, no, I do trust, I do put a lot of faith in this.
Speaker 1Okay, so tell me why and how, like, if you put yourself into gypsy's shoes and for like 19 years of your life. Yeah, you didn't get to stand up, you didn't get your head and your eyebrows being shaved like and and we'll go into it, but she did try to escape more than once.
Speaker 2Yeah, um, I just think that you think you just sacrificed yourself.
Speaker 1At that point You're like well, I can't kill anybody, so I guess I'll just.
Speaker 2Well, is murder. The old was murdered.
Speaker 1The only way out, and maybe Was for her we'll go into it, but like one of the first times.
Speaker 2okay, I don't think she's innocent in all of this and, and I do believe she did deserve to go to jail. I eight years seems a little long for me.
Speaker 1I'm gonna tell you this right now is that Gypsy tried to shoot her mom herself. Oh, and she also tried running away Before all of this transpired. I mean like when you're getting and like you see, just on Instagram yesterday I think she posted a picture of her and like a sports bra and you can see the Giant scar where, like her feeding tube went into and like she's had all these fucking Surgeries. That's like they're taking the lining of her stomach to coat her esophagus because she is she's got bad acid reflux.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, we'll get into it. So.
Speaker 2Gypsy Rose.
Speaker 1Well, you know, with her wrestling, loving husband and and the guy that killed her mom was like super into WWF well, that makes more sense.
Speaker 2I.
Speaker 1She thought she was like escaping to be with like this wonder man. And then she like went into his bedroom and it was like he had a comforter that had like WWF. You're like where do I get that?
Speaker 2Like I've heard of murder memorabilia, I wonder if I get those sheets.
Speaker 1So you know you're like pretty straight edge when it comes like the law and stuff like that. And me I think of myself like straight edge.
Speaker 2I have broken many a law. I'm skirt in the law, but I also believe that the law should be enforced.
Speaker 1Yeah, so like you skirt it, and then they come up to you. They like hey, what are you doing here? You're like arrest me.
Speaker 2No, I'd be like don't arrest me, arrest that guy doing the same thing, yeah, but I'm here.
Speaker 1Oh, that's called gaslighting yeah.
Speaker 2Yes, that is correct officer.
Speaker 1I Considered myself to be like a little bit more of like the rebellious, like the James Dean of Nice smoking darts pop collar leading up on a car. I'm like I don't play by any rules.
Speaker 2You want to raise pink slips?
Speaker 1Grease.
Speaker 2I think grease do we have.
Speaker 1I don't think I have pink slip for my car. Is that a thing, stuff?
Speaker 2its ownership. But yeah, it's not pink.
Speaker 1So you know All that to say, I make my own laws, yeah, and I feel that I don't think she would have gone to jail.
Speaker 2You think that is there Cases worse. There's cases where somebody's killed somebody and they haven't gone to jail, right justifiable.
Speaker 1We did one on the sleepwalker, so why was this not adjustable?
Speaker 2Did they try to go for that defense and she's guilty over oh.
Speaker 1Yeah, she took a deal. Like I know maybe if it had her gone to court it would have turned out a different way. But no, she played guilty. So and Nick go to. John is In there for life with no possibility. Parole.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's. We'll get into him though I mean he was the actual and he, you know what.
Speaker 1I'm fairly confident in saying that I think it. He would have killed somebody sooner or later.
Speaker 2Oh, okay. He was very very so it wasn't the case.
Speaker 1Okay, so like her advantage, like some little dumb, dumb country, no, like he was on the spectrum but he believed he was like a fucking 200 year old vampire and all this shit and he loved Murder.
Speaker 1And she said when she got with her now husband, this all makes sense a little bit, guys, I promise. But when she got with her now husband, she said like she felt so guilty. And her husband said you shouldn't feel guilty because if you Ask me to kill your mom I would say no, let's go to the authority. He and so her kind of thing is like yeah, I asked him to, but like any person with a normal Brain would say, we're probably not gonna do that. Mm-hmm yeah so let's get into it here.
Speaker 1Let's do it. Let's get right into it. Talking about that fire D, so before we dive right into it, I'm just gonna read you a short little blurb that I put here about much housing by proxy. Do you know anything about it at all?
Speaker 2just from a little bit in the sixth sense, and in this case Misha Barton?
Speaker 1what Misha Barton?
Speaker 2That's who it was. Yeah, oh, no shit.
Speaker 1Yeah, in Her mother's, in poisoning her yeah that's my, chosen by proxy right.
Speaker 2Yeah, 100%. And then remember.
Speaker 1And they, when they're like all gathered around for the wake and they're like they say, the little one's getting sick too now. Yeah the little sister's getting sick, and then Haley.
Speaker 2Joe Osmond.
Speaker 1He brings the video to the dad, that's right, yeah, look, I have goosebumps.
Speaker 2That was a good movie.
Fictitious Disorder Imposed on Another
Speaker 1Yeah, and that's Misha Barton. Yeah, they will see. So the past we referred to this as much housing by proxy, but now we call it fictitious disorder imposed on another. Okay and it was, you know, the new definition. It was coined because it describes a behavioral pattern rather than underlying Psychiatric syndrome.
Speaker 2Yeah, you don't really know anything when you hear well, proxy gives you a little bit of it makes you feel like it's a condition that they were born with you know what I mean. Like yeah, I could call, yet does, munch out, yet does.
Speaker 1But it's not. You're a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2That's the definition. Yeah, they should just call it you're a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1Oh what she's suffering with. Oh, she's got. You're a fucking asshole, oh, I've heard that. You know it's more accurate because the fdIA, which is the fictitious disorder imposed on another Okay, it's really long. I think that's why they haven't, like, not a lot of people have adapted to it. Yeah, it's a relatively rare but increasing Issue and it's a severe form of child abuse. Studies reported that a mortality rate of Between six and ten percent Wow of all children that are affected by it. It becomes lethal for them.
Speaker 2I think that we're gonna see. I mean, I assume a lot of this by DD, by other people, that this, this disease, whatever you want to call it, I'm disease not a disease my own, I'm sorry it's, that's correct a or shitty person. I feel like a lot of these people are doing it for sympathy, for attention, and I think, with the rise of social media tiktok specifically I think that we're gonna see More cases of this shit.
Speaker 1So here's. The thing is like I've always felt this way, especially like I used to watch Catfish back in the day.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 1Don't, and I know that there's something Chemically off with these people, but like I don't understand. Like if I put a photo of somebody that's not me online, and then I chat with people and then they think that pictures me and they give me all these compliments. What gratification do you get from that?
Speaker 2like you, that's not, you doesn't matter if they're seeing, that they're seeing. You're so Beautiful but you're not but I don't think that you care. I think that you, as the catfisher with the fake photo are seeing oh, you're my world, you mean so much to me, and I think of the most part, I think that they look at that and they're like wow, I'm really loved by somebody. Not Well, I mean, you know, it's some sort of a mental issue.
Speaker 1I. It doesn't make sense to me. Along with this, much hasn't like it's like.
Speaker 2Your kids. I know anything. First of all, it's your kid that's getting the attention.
Speaker 1Second of all, it's like no with the moms, they don't have these illnesses.
Speaker 2Yeah, d D is is really brave for for really guiding Gypsy.
Speaker 1I just I've never understood these and I can understand a lot of mental illness things, but like these couple things, like I'm just it's not real. It's, everything you're doing is fake. So it's like why do you get? You must know that the Compliments and everything that you're receiving are fake.
Speaker 2Now I also think, if you tell a lie, so much eventually. In your mind, it becomes the truth. I think that those lines get blurred a lot more than we know, especially in cases like this.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I think that, listen, I think she's just fucking Well shitty personality.
Speaker 1She sucks. Yeah so the long and short of it was that Gypsy Rose Blanchard was a child who was horribly medically abused by her mother. She was forced to be in a wheelchair. Her head was shaved. She underwent so many surgeries, oh fuck crazy and it was all for attention and financial gain, which kind of like I Mean I'm not enough fucking bajillion years would I ever do it, but at least the financial gain is kind of like I see a purpose there.
Speaker 2Sure yeah.
Speaker 1So Gypsy, at the age of 19, had met a guy online His name was Nick. Go to John and they soon became boyfriend and girlfriend online and they hatched a plan to kill her mother so that she could escape the regular abuse that she was enduring on a regular basis. So that was the quick version of like what the story is all about, but there's so much more to it, so let's start with Dee Dee and the teeth.
Speaker 2I know it was from the miniseries, but when her mom had her teeth pulled, that's a.
Speaker 1It was the most horrific scene and the little the girl that played Gypsy Rose was Outstanding the worst is that, like now, she has dentures now that she's out, but when she was in jail they wouldn't Spring for dentures, so it was like she had to like live with oh, like a gummy, like it just no. I don't think she had nothing like I think they probably allowed her like a partial, maybe so that she was able to eat. Yeah, but yeah, no, she didn't have anything that was aesthetically pleasing.
Speaker 2I know that. You know she's got a lot of like metal in her mouth.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, you can see it when she saw it. But I think that there's been a few dentists that have said, hey, gypsy will fix it for free, like you're free now and they're gonna do it with the thing that a lot of people don't understand too, though, is when you start to lose your teeth, the bone Starts to wear away, so, like, unless you have something that's holding it there like you need either teeth or a denture or something like that your bone gradually recedes. What the hell do?
Speaker 2you think you know about dentures Like what qualifies you to make any comments? Where have you ever been around a denturist?
Speaker 1first and foremost, I've told you that the chattering Teeth that you see at Party City, I put those into people's mouths Matt here I'm fixing you for your dentures.
Speaker 2Yeah.
DD's Relationship and Gypsy's Early Life
Speaker 1They got away from me again. We're gonna go with DD. Her name was Claudine Petrie. She was born as the youngest of six. Her parents were Emma in cloud Petrie and she was born on May 3rd 1967, and they instantly gave her the nickname of DD and it was said that she was her mother's favorite. And being her favorite came with some perks, like DD was allowed to go to college and get a car, which was something that her siblings were not allowed to do well, youngest of six.
Speaker 1Resentment much, I just bought Max car the other day, so we're gonna. If you see a four-year-old driving car, that's. But yeah, her siblings weren't allowed to do any of those things and who really knows, with this family. But apparently DD had a heart murmur so her family, and her mom in particular, would not allow her to go outside and play with the rest of the kids.
Speaker 2Dode on her maybe.
Speaker 1Yeah, just she would like stare at the window and like wait for somebody to come in and talk to her, because Maybe her mom had a hint of a little shot.
Speaker 2Oh my Chausie.
Speaker 1No much has zero. So when DD was 24, she met 17 year old Rod Blanchard at a bowling alley.
Speaker 2He were most statutory. Really great relationship, start good spot.
Speaker 1So, you know, he noticed with her like he was from Louisiana, new Orleans, so he noticed there was something different about DD and the way she carried herself and the way she talked, and so that kind of like intrigued him a little bit and so he decided that he would buy her a drink, which I don't know how, because he's 17 and oh well, you don't you think that the bartender at the bowling alley is on top of his smarts here? I wish I was a teenager in Louisiana.
Speaker 2Yeah, we had a gun to the Brunny, the Brunswick house in Toronto. We would drink underage like a normal person.
Speaker 1Normal Canadian. So, yeah, he bought her a drink and the two began chatting. Now, what should be known is that Rod's mother worked at the local library and she once noted that when she was checking in books, she would come to find out that one that had been previously taken out by her son's new girlfriend From that library Creepy was DD Petrie, and that book was called how to get pregnant.
Speaker 2Oh Get, this is come off of it. She obviously wanted her mom.
Speaker 1I don't think so. I think she really just wanted to know and she was like, well, maybe she won't check. But you know, the fucking book worked because After they met, dd was pregnant with the couple's child.
Speaker 2Jeez takes a whole book. You probably put in a motion in a pamphlet, no, like a three-fold pamphlet.
Speaker 1I mean, it's the pictures.
Speaker 2Oh my god, you're perfect.
Speaker 1So Rod had always been told that if you get a girl pregnant, it's His responsibility as the man. He has to do the honorable thing. He has to marry her, and that's what he did. He hoped that one day his feelings would grow and he would actually be able to fall in love with DD.
Speaker 2Oh wow, Take that's a pretty.
Speaker 1I don't know. That's a bold move either nice or awful. He said that she was a good southern girl and she liked to cook. So what mortgage? Asked Well.
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1Hope, any hope, and he hoped. I am and then one day, three months into the marriage, rod woke up. It was right before his 18th birthday and he thought to himself that he can just not continue to live this way. 18, he was so young and he really didn't know what he wanted. But he knew what he didn't want, and that was DD.
Speaker 2I'm doing a lot of thinking Okay, I'm not a kid anymore. Okay, I'm 18. I'm an adult. Hey, hey.
Speaker 1DD, can you just one more time teach me about bed masks, can you?
Speaker 2show me, show me that pamphlet again. Can you that thing?
Speaker 1So you know, even at that young age he still said like he vowed to pay child support and he wanted to be in his baby's life. But there had to be more out there than what was going on with him and DD. And on July 27th of 1991, Gypsy Rose Blanchard was born.
Speaker 2Gypsy Rose.
Speaker 1Rod would say that she was beautiful and in perfect health as baby. Her loved ones would call her possum and, and once you hear that nickname you'll never be able to unsee it.
Speaker 2I just because.
Speaker 1Gypsy does look like a possum.
Speaker 2Oh, that's all. I thought she would like sleep all the time.
Speaker 1No, she looks like a little possum.
Speaker 2Hanging from sitting down, hanging from her tail.
Speaker 1She had scrappy blonde hair and she had these small dark eyes. Gypsy was actually very smart as a young child. In one home video you can hear a relative asking her where her cranium, her gluteus maximus and her phalanges are. What are they?
Speaker 2Matt, I'm gonna say your head, your butt, phil, and sounds like a fucking car part.
Speaker 1I'm gonna say your chest Fingers, get out of here and so Gypsy pointed to her head, her bum and her fingers, and in the same video she's asked how old she is and she holds up one finger to indicate the choose one. Oh, that's pretty smart actually, and in full disclosure at one. Not one single one of my children was able to tell you how old.
Speaker 2They were folks closure. She was seven at the time.
Speaker 1My kids were following me on the bar. You know I I'm not saying like there's. I know that there's plenty of babies out there that can do that. Mine were not, but they weren't any of the plenty. And when she is later depicted as delayed, it just Seem that way.
Speaker 2She knew she was this many when she was that many.
Speaker 1I don't know what the I barely know how many I am. When Gypsy was only three months old, dd claimed that she would have seizures and she would stop breathing while she slept. When she brought her in to be checked out, gypsy was diagnosed with sleep apnea. You know what's? Up here, yeah, where my dog let's hear a little bit about the glamorous life of sleep apnea patient.
Speaker 2You just have. Essentially it is snoring and its simplest form, and you have an issue with your soft palate. So you use positive air pressure via a CPAP machine and a mask ladies line up please and it just keeps constant. It's just like somebody's kind of like Just blowing your mouth the whole night.
Speaker 1Is, it isn't relaxing.
Speaker 2It's not Unrelaxing like now it's, it's it's right in the middle.
Speaker 1Did you hate it at the beginning?
Speaker 2Yeah, the first, if you've ever been diagnosed with sleep apnea To get a machine in a mask. The first week is hell, really, and then, once you have your first full night sleep, you're like holy shit.
Speaker 1This is crazy. My girlfriend Michelle has a sleep apnea mask.
Speaker 2Oh, I've never heard of a lady having it.
Speaker 1I have to dress it and it's like when she wants to get like Randy with her husband. She like turns over him like fucking Darth Vader.
Speaker 2You will come over to the dark side of the bed is put all that to say that there's two different types.
Speaker 1So Most people have obstructive sleep apnea.
Speaker 2I don't know which one I have.
Speaker 1Where the muscle relax is too much and it prevents air from going into the lungs.
Speaker 2Hmm.
Speaker 1But the type of sleep apnea that gypsy allegedly had was Central sleep apnea, and that's when the brain doesn't send proper signals to breathe.
Speaker 2Essentially, did she have? I Know that you know she was diagnosed and stuff, but was there any legitimate ailments?
Speaker 1in hindsight, that's spoiling the entire case, because I think that probably everybody knows about this case already, but do you know what gypsy has? No she has a lazy eye.
Speaker 2Are you serious? That's it.
Speaker 1That's it, and I have a lazy eye, so she could be a fucking podcaster.
Speaker 2Or she can work with dentures, I mean I hope those fucking doctors and hospitals got in shit for all this.
Speaker 1Well, she's looking into it, but I mean, like medical mouth practice is so hard.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is like penetrate.
Speaker 1Yeah, wild, so yeah. So that's the type of sleep apnea that gypsy apparently had. Rod thought so. Rod, her dad thought that maybe he had when he learned of his daughter's diagnosis. Maybe he had given up on his marriage too soon and maybe he just should have stayed and tried to work it out with the mother of his baby, kind of like good guy Rod. Rod is a fucking rock star.
Speaker 2I think have we been seeing him on her socials Like that's the dad in?
Speaker 1the blue eyes super handsome.
Speaker 2You know what? I don't recall that part. No, he's really handsome and does he have other kids? Cuz she was with, like her sister and I figured is that, but that's not Really pretty blonde chick.
Speaker 1Is it a half sister?
Speaker 3Yes, Okay so it's Rod and Christie's. I got you.
Speaker 1Her sister's blonde.
Speaker 2Yeah, you like yeah well, I don't know, I just you know.
Speaker 1I don't know. I mean, we haven't really I don't know why she says you like me. So he decided that he was gonna move back in and he's gonna try it out with Dede again, Because he was worried about his daughter and he just you know she had a medical condition and he wanted to be there be close the dude was fucking 17 years old.
Speaker 2Yeah like. I think that more of a man than most.
Rod's Relationship With Gypsy and Dee Dee' Simplified Title
Speaker 1I think that there's a Fraction like a small fraction of men that would have stuck it out With a baby at 17 and that now she's got medical conditions. Allegedly so, like I said here, we're gonna learn that Rod is pretty stand-up character. There is one part here that made me think that he was a bit of an asshole. Hmm, but I mean fucking nobody's perfect, right. What do you do?
Speaker 2Hey, hey, that's a rod, hey what.
Speaker 1I think, everybody already knows this case, but when her parole came up, he works on like a fishing boat, like I think he like, does, like shrimp bubble go, like I mean whatever yeah and so he would go out for months at a time, and so when Gypsy's parole came up, he said he couldn't be there because he was In the middle of a month-long trip. Mm-hmm out doing like what he had to do, but his wife, christie, went. So I was just at that point.
Speaker 2I was kind of like Like it was my kid, I would have been there, but I don't know. I could kind of see that I don't know the shrimp in business. Maybe it's like you gotta get your ass first gum.
Speaker 1Like you don't know this. I'm pretty much an expert in the stool.
Speaker 3So here don't the stool.
Speaker 1No, how many school stools Like a whole like oh yeah, you got three stools, or a couch worth of.
Speaker 2Yeah, just get some fucking proper furniture whenever some of you stools.
Speaker 1Take your chair back. I have a chair, I have a chair, and so Rod tried again to move back in, but again he realized he could not tolerate DD. And I get it because I mean, ever since I've learned about her she has Not been alive and I still find her Extremely irritating.
Speaker 2I'm gonna go in a limb with a hot take little controlling, yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 1Oh. So after he realized that she was the worst bearable, he left again and While he saw all of the tension that she would give to gypsy, he thought to himself that she was actually a really good mom. Like he really approved the things that she was doing and like choose a nurse's aide, like she'd go into school for that.
Speaker 1And so when it came to like so yeah, you know layman isn't gonna talk to somebody who has medical Information and just say like well, are you sure? Like he just assumed that everything she was saying was?
Speaker 2right, yeah, she's probably using the terminology right stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's generally see that. Yeah, exact the brain signal thing. So not to mention that DD had actually gone to nursing school. God, why do I talk? Did you say?
Speaker 2this went to nursing school. I know this who's a nurse's aide. I don't think that was a repeat. I'm not gonna fault you for that.
Speaker 1Well, she went to nursing school and she became a nurse's aide. So, like you, had.
Speaker 2That's a repeat. Get out. You look so defeated. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I just quit, take my weird pink dick microphone. You guys, I bought a new microphone, so that I can record these solo episodes, and Matt put the.
Speaker 2Windsock, windsock.
Speaker 1Yeah, mike's sock when sock on it and it Fully looks like a dick. I liked it because I thought it was pink and it was pretty, and now all I can see is a very girthy. So Rod would move on and he would marry a girl that he knew from high school. Her name was Christie. Dd actually knew her to, they both worked at the hospital together and and Christie would later say that DD was warm and kind to her until she found out that Rod was dating her and that, of course, doomed their relationship. So the long and short of it is that Rod tried desperately to have a relationship with his daughter, christie rubs new wife, love Gypsy, as if she was one of her own. At the age of four years old, rod saw his daughter in a wheelchair for the first time, and he said that every single time after that. He never saw her stand again.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know there was a thing that when she was in court people were like holy, when she didn't come in a wheelchair when she walked in. Yeah, like the gallery and stuff.
Speaker 1Imagine how like crazy that would be Right. So Didi had informed him that Gypsy was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy and she would be in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Rob said that once. Like I said once he saw Gypsy in the wheelchair. He never saw her without it. Rob said he felt as if Didi was moving Gypsy further and further away from him, so like their first move was like one hour away from him and then their second move was like four hours away from him.
Speaker 2Well, you got to get away from the one person that can stand up to you.
Speaker 1Especially like because she ended up changing her date of birth a bunch of times too, so like Rob would be the one other person that really knew for sure how old?
Speaker 1Gypsy was. He said that when he would visit Gypsy she would always be a little standoffish with him and by the time that, like during their visits, when she began to like loosen up, by that time the visit would be over and it was so long before he got to see her again. So like she'd clam up all again and then you know it'd be starting to take a while to you know, like clarky.
Speaker 1That's exactly right. And in 2005, hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, where Gypsy and Didi were living, and, according to Didi, their home was absolutely destroyed Along with the house. Gypsy's medical records were also destroyed. How?
Speaker 2convenient. I wonder if a lot of people did that during Katrina and said like, oh, that's crazy, no, all of my records are gone. I have. No, that's whatever. I don't have any tax records anymore.
Speaker 1But like what could you bet of it from?
Speaker 2Um, yeah.
Speaker 1I want all the suppository. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know, it's a good point.
Speaker 1You know, therefore, doctors had to take Didi at her word when it came to Gypsy's ailments. Her fucking records got destroyed. We don't have computers, apparently.
Speaker 2Yeah, and we don't have any medical degrees to do any follow up or examination.
Speaker 1Wait a minute. You said that she has this, oh well.
Speaker 2Oh, nurses ain't. Oh my bad.
Speaker 1So after they had been released from the hospital for minor injuries after the hurricane, they were life flighted by helicopter to Missouri, missouri, yes.
Speaker 2What Life Like? Like the air or like a?
Speaker 1helicopter. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now you know what I do.
Speaker 2Now I know what a helicopter is. Thank God, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1So in Missouri they were gifted a home. You know, habitat for Humanity came through in a pinch and they completely refurbished a home. They painted it like a pale pink. On the outside there was like a nice long white wheelchair ramp for Gypsy. They also ensured that all the light switches were like lower down so that she could turn on the light, and the doors were widened so that she could For the wheelchair. Yep, there was also a jacuzzi style bathtub so that it would like soothe her sore muscles. The home was given to them fully furnished and they were gifted a minivan and later on, after the minivan died, they were gifted a black Nissan Q.
Speaker 2Oh, you know what I take? The dead minivan. I know you just need something to get from A to B. Beggars can't be choosers, you can be a little choosy. Looks like a bomb disposal unit.
Speaker 1So, upon meeting her new neighbors, dee Dee would make it well known of all the things that her young daughter was suffering from oh, of course. She had leukemia that she would be receiving radiation and chemotherapy for. She had muscular dystrophy, which resulted in her having to be in a wheelchair. She had a feeding tube. She suffered from severe migraines. She had epilepsy, and that wasn't even the half of it.
Speaker 2She had a bitch for her mom. Yeah, forgot that one.
Speaker 1Her mom said but, by all accounts, gypsy seemed to be in the right hands, right Like Dee Dee's fucking killing me.
Speaker 2Yeah, nurses aid.
Speaker 1To anyone on the outside looking in, dee Dee looked like she was the best mom in the world. She had quit her job as a nurses aide and had given all of her attention to her sick daughter. Rod now lived 11 hours away from his daughter and he would try his best to keep in contact with her, especially like on birthdays or holidays, and he would send gifts, but Dee Dee would pass them off as gifts that she had bought for Gypsy. Oh my.
Speaker 2God, there's no ender. Horribleness.
Speaker 1On her 18th birthday. He called to wish her a happy birthday and Dee Dee told him not to tell her that she was turning 18. She told him that Gypsy would be confused due to her mental age and it was just better that he'd leave her age out of it.
Speaker 2I mean she's trying to age her probably younger.
Speaker 1Well, here's the thing is. I don't know if I wrote it in here, but she was giving ages that Gypsy was supposed to die by. Like first it was like five and then it was like 10 and then it was 20. So, like all these ages kept coming and going and she was still alive, so that's why she was trying to age Gypsy backwards. So, that's like God only knows what would have actually happened, because a lot of these cases do result in people killing their kids.
Speaker 2Well, I think if you have a kid with a disability, you probably get a little bit of more assistance from the government until they're 18, or you know.
Speaker 1That's actually a really good point too, so maybe it was something to do with that.
Speaker 2I don't know, but I know. You know, with no job they had an income.
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Speaker 1So you know I'm pretty sure that we know how this story ends. Deedee was faking 99% of Gypsy's illnesses ever since she was an infant, and I think that's to me, that's what a lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 2Is she didn't know anything other than being sick.
Speaker 1She knew that she could walk and she knew that she could eat, but like all these other things she thought. But you know, I live my life trying every single day not to fuck up my kids with like something that would go unnoticed. You know what I mean. Like just something that I didn't even realize I said it or did it. Like just nothing catastrophic. And I think, oh my God, what if, like something, I did fuck up my kids in the long room? Because everybody has issues when they grow up. Can you imagine this fucking laundry list about like issues?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Like everybody's, like well, you know, she should have just stood up and she should have done this, and it's like, well, she was in a wheelchair at four years old and her mom was able to fucking keep her in a wheelchair. I can't get my four year old to sit down and eat his dinner. Ever, ever. There's not one single day in my life that Max has sat down without getting up at least half a dozen times.
Speaker 2In Deedee Blanchard's defense. Have you tried shaving his head, eyebrows and pulling his teeth?
Speaker 1Fine Tonight I'm going to be doing it on my Instagram. Max is getting his head shaved, but you know what?
Speaker 2I mean Like.
Speaker 1Gypsy was obviously very submissive to her mother.
Speaker 2Well it is, you know, to say Gypsy, you should have just gotten up and leave it's. You know it's the same thing that somebody's in an abusive relationship. Well, just leave that guy.
Speaker 1And here's the thing is like she.
Speaker 2It's simple on paper, but it's so complicated.
Speaker 1Okay, didi kept moving her from places, right. So, like the only and I hate to quote Dr Phil, but Dr Feliti says like you're an island and you're supposed to allow your kids to go out a certain distance, and then they come back and then you go, allow them to go a little bit further, and then they come back and then they go a little bit further, but you're always stationed you're there island.
Speaker 1Yeah, and Didi was her island, like she was the only consistent thing in her life. Yeah, so it's like what else? Where was she going to go? As a little kid and like she did get. She's like if I followed the rules and, like you know, I did what my mom was saying, I would get like a new dollar and get a new. And I know at this age, like my kids are like if I could literally get my kids to fucking anything for a reward, yeah, so I don't know, it's all sad crazy.
Speaker 2It's crazy. Something like this can go on and and fail so many systems, or so many systems can fail this, like the vetting process for Habitats. You know the, which I'm sure, has probably changed since this the hospitals, the doctors, the nurses, hospital staff, how they interact with patient advocates, I'm sure has changed.
Speaker 1It's crazy like they so many people failed her and a lot of people Recognized to what did he was doing. Yeah like there's doctors that said like mother may be suffering from much housing by proxy. Right but then they just didn't do anything else about it. Wow, like, and don't you take like a? Hypocrite goes thank you so much for saying that word.
Speaker 2I do no harm, I think is generally what it is.
Speaker 1Well, isn't it doing harm if you don't?
Speaker 1Yeah, speak up, yeah, patient advocacy so you know she had Been faking these illnesses.
Speaker 1Gypsy had a feeding tube surgically put into her that had to be changed every six months Because stomach acid would erode the part that went inside of her body.
Speaker 1Dd used to put orgel on gypsies gums to numb them, which would cause gypsy to drool and she would then have her salivary glands removed as a result and gypsy would be put under a local anesthetic and have part of her stomach lining removed so that they could use it to coat her esophagus, because she would, according to DD, she suffered from severe acid reflux. She would also have her head shaved regularly because DD wanted to keep up appearances and If she really had cancer and she wanted to give up the appearance like that she really had cancer was going through the treatment. When DD would shave her head, she would also shave off her eyebrows. Gypsy would stay in the hospital for months on end, especially when she was just having these tubes inserted into her, and All the while her father, rod, had kept her on his insurance and he would try his best to send more money than he was required to send in order to, you know, subsidize a little bit yeah living expenses.
Speaker 1Neighbors would say that DD was the kind of person who did not like to ask for help.
Speaker 2A bull fucking shit.
Speaker 1Meanwhile she was receiving all sorts of donations and trips for gypsy. They would get to go to disney world and disney land. Rod said that whenever he heard the gypsy was able to go to one of these Special like make-a-wish kind of thing events, he would up his child support payments by a couple hundred dollars Just so that she could get souvenirs and eat and stuff like that, which.
Speaker 2I am sure that DD passed that money right on?
Speaker 1Yeah right, is that what you're gonna say?
Speaker 2I was gonna say I'm sure DD gave gypsy rose the money and said this is from your father to buy souvenirs. No she's trash. She was so make-a-wish I'd be DD, even buy or anything. Strawberry just got a bunch of free stuff from the disney people.
Speaker 1You know, what the saddest thing is, too, is that, like she had her feeding tube inserted into her stomach and like so really, dd's in complete and utter control at that point in time, like you can put anything you want into this child because she's not tasting it right. So, and gypsy said that she would sit there in front of her and she would eat whatever she wanted.
Speaker 2Oh fuck, like fried chicken, like the smell of fried chicken anything, anything.
Speaker 1Imagine if somebody came in front of me right now without a stomach tube and started eating like tacos.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I'd be like I have to kill this person. I don't even have a stomach tube and I'd kill that person.
Speaker 1So gypsy was even able to go backstage at a Miranda Lambert concert when the singer wrote her a personal check as a donation to you know, donate to her cause. And as all of this was happening, dd kept on telling people that gypsy was terminal, she was not gonna live past her 20th birthday. Gypsy knew that she could walk and she knew that she could eat, but this had all been going on so long that she didn't even realize why her mother was telling her to fake all these ailments, like it's just.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're your life, your reality now right.
Speaker 1So DD would always hold her daughter's hand, and when gypsy would talk, if she ever said anything outside of what her mother had coached her into saying, dd would squeeze her hand so hard that it hurt, and she would know then that she had to shut up.
Speaker 2I saw that. Did you? I saw that? Yeah, there was a news clip.
Speaker 1Really.
Speaker 2Yeah, where you can see they zoom in on the mom Squeezing and it didn't look like a violent thing, didn't look like it, or it just almost looked like a bit of a correction.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was like listen up.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're fucking up our gig.
Speaker 1As a young child, gypsy was very complacent and strived to please her mother, but as she started getting older, she realized how different her life was compared to other children her age, and she hated it. And that was when gypsy started to come up with a plan to get out from underneath her mother's thumb.
Speaker 2Oh shit.
Speaker 1Most people who have heard this story, which I think probably is everyone, by now.
Speaker 2I think if you're a subscriber to a true crime podcast, you're aware of Gypsy rose blanchard grb.
Speaker 1So a lot of people think that you know gypsy was in on it, like she was in on the lie and like, I guess to a certain degree that's not true.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I mean as a kid Really know from right, from wrong when they're number one teacher three months old was when her first fucking diagnosis yeah. I mean, I personally wouldn't find her complacent in that, even though, sure, technically she was, she knew how to eat and knew how to walk. But no, I think that there's so much mental that's your basketball trauma.
Speaker 1You know what I mean. Like, if you fucking, what are you gonna do? You're gonna Stand up and show everybody that you can walk, and then what? Where do you go home to?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah and did.
Speaker 1He had also been telling her the entire time that her father was highly abusive.
Speaker 2I was just gonna say I wonder if the mom was talking shit about the old man, because that would be her logic, the logical step We'd go to your dad and and rod said that, like when he first would come to see her, like she, sometimes her hand would be shaking, like she was so scared to be around him.
Speaker 1Oh, so you know Some people. I, I guess think that gypsy was in on it Until she wasn't, and that's when she snapped, but that's not the case. Gypsy had run away from DD a time before this to be with a much older man, which is fucking gross. Anyways, he was like, he thought she was like 15 and he was 36. So like whoof. But uh, yeah, they met it like one of these internet. It's like a star wars kind of like a comic con kind of thing yeah something like that.
Speaker 1And then gypsy had talked to him and she was like I'm gonna come stay there. And then it turned out that so he was staying with friends. He didn't have a car, he didn't have anything, like he was really he was killing it. And uh, dd knew the friends that he was staying with, so, like when she started like calling around it got back to them and they said, like come get her right so there's a lot more to go over.
Speaker 1We're gonna go over this guy who she met at the cosmacon thing. His name is dan Cosmacon, but all of that stuff is gonna be safe for next time because we are cutting it off here and where are we going. Mexican food.
Speaker 2You know why the Mexican food is so good at home landing? Uh, I know so, uh holland in. Ontario, bradford is um. There's a holland marsh oh my god, it's the biggest it's the biggest fucking vegetable culture in Canada.
Speaker 1I think maybe the world.
Speaker 2They hire migrant workers from Mexico to come up like authentic mexicans, work the fields up here. They enjoy the area, they meet a girl, settle down. And now you've got Two third generation, now Mexican Canadians in the small town.
Speaker 1Do you think that, no, at the restaurant we're going to like maybe still need to meet a girl or like what?
Speaker 2do you think you settle down enough?
Speaker 1What do you think?
Speaker 2Okay, so he's not okay, I have a feeling you're more attracted to the restaurant and want to marry the restaurant more than no Like a restaurant you're googling. Can you marry a restaurant, can you?
Speaker 1marry, I would be definitely on one of your fucking stupid shows.
Speaker 2I married. A quick side note check out season one of prison brides. Fantastic with trashy lin.
Speaker 1Oh god, my girl, you need to explain that my girl.
Speaker 2Uh, there's a girl that looks like lin on the show prison brides it is fantastic. And she left her kid in australia to go meet a contact in america.
Speaker 1What's her name?
Speaker 2erin isn't it? I forget? I call her trashy lin. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1I really enjoy that.
Speaker 2I love that you left her kid to get laid.
Speaker 1All right, guys. Thanks, tuning in. Okay, bye.