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A Dive into Amanda C Riley Part 2
Buckle up as we navigate through Amanda's roller-coaster journey. Feel the electrifying energy as bands like Journey rally to her cause, be moved by the love shown by restaurants like Chili's on her 30th birthday, and witness her starring moment in a Rachel Platten music video. But as we wade deeper, the gloss begins to fade. We uncover a web of alleged illness, treatments, and a dedicated community rallying behind her. Hear about Mahasti, the selfless babysitter, and Nancy, the investigative producer who leaves no stone unturned.
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Welcome to Everything Scary. My name is Lynn and I'm here with my co-host local celebrity, sorry, sorry, international celebrity. Thank you, matt McClain.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello.
Speaker 1:Every Tuesday we release a new episode, mostly true crime, but we've also been known to cover a pandemic, a haunting, a super mad, super strong chimpanzee. We'll cover anything and everything scary. Please rate us five stars and join us on Instagram at Everything Scary Pod. Here we go, hello, hello, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm good. How are you? Fantastic. Thank you for asking. That is wonderful to hear, you know. For a hungover guy, you're doing pretty well today.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say you're funny, you're on point.
Speaker 2:Really, I feel like my whole brain is scattered and like I'm sweating on my palms and the bottoms of my feet.
Speaker 1:How do you know that you're sweating on the?
Speaker 2:bottom of your feet. I can feel my socks sliding in my shoes.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a little Sexy. Oh, no, sorry.
Speaker 2:My bad.
Speaker 1:You've read that wrong. It's the first time it's happened. So this is part two of our coverage of Amanda C Riley.
Speaker 2:All right Scamanda.
Speaker 1:Scamanda, as the 12 part podcast is called, with Charlie Webster as the host. They do If you like this story, if you're listening to me, tell it and then you like it, listen to that podcast, because they interview everybody except for Cori and Amanda and it's just really well done and they give you the nitty gritty. I am watering this shit down. Yeah, that's right, I like to sell people on other podcasts.
Speaker 2:They're doing a super, super deep dive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are treading water.
Speaker 2:That's right. Riding a bike and spreading peanut butter, yeah.
Speaker 1:Locking your kid up outside. So if you haven't listened to part one, you have no chance of picking up what we're putting down in this episode. That's right. So go back and listen to part one.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they listened to part one last week and they're listening to this, or because sometimes when I have a two-parter coming up on a pot, I follow. I'll skip a week, or, and then go back to back.
Speaker 1:Join the Patreon.
Speaker 2:That is a wonderful suggestion Option.
Speaker 1:You're too cheap to do it, so I know you just skip the week that is correct.
Speaker 2:That is correct. But yeah, back to back for our Patreon members.
Speaker 1:Yeah, heyo, what's up? So maybe you just heard the first part, so this is still fresh on your brain, heyo.
Speaker 2:Thank you for subscribing and being a Patreon and giving us some suggestions for some cases. The fun part.
Speaker 1:Patriotic what I don't know? Patriotic that's all right. Words are funny, eh, and you're the hungover one.
Speaker 2:Heyo.
Speaker 1:That's not great for me, so here we go. So in Amanda, part one, we listened to how she's had terminal cancer twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Three times, I believe, with one of the ones not being terminal.
Speaker 2:Right Regular run in the mill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just your old run in the mill and she's getting all these donations. Bands were giving her stuff to auction off Journey, Journey ever heard of them, Lee and Rhymes. And so now Amanda was part of a music video that was alongside of the song Fight Song by Rachel Platten. Oh, this is my fight song.
Speaker 2:Now, all right, I'm going to go on a big assumption here. Uh-oh, having never seen the music video for the fight song, but having MCed the run for the cure probably for the last seven years, oh dear, when that song is played. It is one of the most powerful, emotional. They do what's called I believe it's called the survivor's walk, and if this fucking bitch, Amanda, has done anything to fuck this image up, I'm going to be pissed.
Speaker 1:To be fair, it's not Rachel Platten's version of the music video, but Amanda and everybody. They're all standing on a beach and they're all holding like team Amanda signs. And Rachel Platten herself actually even reached out and she said incredible, you guys inspire me so much, yeah. So, on Amanda's 30th birthday for Chili's restaurants, have you been to Chili's?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I want to go to a show. So bad, I don't know. It's like a TGA Fridays. I hit them up.
Speaker 1:There's an Applebee's up here. There's like they have like meatloaf and stuff that my grandma I think they have peas Ew.
Speaker 2:What about, like I thought, Applebee's you want, like the sizzling fajitas you?
Speaker 1:want the ribs. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:What Fajitas? I believe they're called fajitas. No, there's a J in there, you idiot. No, I'm just kidding. Obviously they're a Fajitas.
Speaker 1:It sounded perverted.
Speaker 2:I know Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, so fajitas.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So yeah, sizzling, Sizzling, fajitas, the I need Jitas. You're crazy. The eye contact again that I'm going to have to get you sunglass. Please, please, never look directly into my eyes again and say Fajitas. So four of the Chili's restaurants decided that 20% of the profits on the night of Amanda's 30th birthday would go directly to helping Amanda and her family.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah.
Speaker 1:And she stated that it would help with bills and bucket list items.
Speaker 2:Okay when you're fundraising for cancer medical bills.
Speaker 1:Don't we all have bucket list items?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you can't really go fund me to go skydiving in Paris, no, Rocky Mountain Climbing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I went 2.7 seconds on a bull named Foo.
Speaker 2:That's country what the hell is you talking?
Speaker 1:about. It's Tim McGraw. It's fucking another one of those songs that gets me crying.
Speaker 2:It's the girl from the Grinch's husband. Where are you Christmas?
Speaker 1:Yes, you're right. Faith Hill is with Tim McGraw, trisha Yearwood is with Garth Brooks.
Speaker 2:Faith Hill won that deal.
Speaker 1:To be fair, though, they're, just, as a whole, a better looking couple Like they're like to be fair.
Speaker 2:Garth and his all year way uglier than the other two. They're real nice. Len Skolin, Will I get my 12th partner on you? Skolinda, Skolinda, You're 12.
Speaker 1:Who are we kidding? You would get to the first part and get bored, that's true.
Speaker 2:Like, sorry guys, it's all bikini pics and it's you. Yeah, I finished my deep dive. I'm really sleeping. I could use a cigarette.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that has to do with my deep dive?
Speaker 2:No, all right, so we can keep the pod on the rails.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, let's see so they would go. Let's see that would help them with build bucket list items as well, as it would help Cory and the kids when things got tough down the road. All around this just seems like an amazing community and Amanda was so transparent with her treatments and every step.
Speaker 2:But you're right that word in there, thinking it would be a fun little.
Speaker 1:Amanda was so transparent with her Leon rhymes. No one would question how legitimately sick Amanda was. She was so out there with it. Who?
Speaker 2:would lie about this Right. You have to be a real piece of shit.
Speaker 1:You know what. You have to be one of the boldest pieces of shit going to lie about something like this. And Amanda was always cheerful and bubbly and shit endless thank yous to all of her donors. So on one occasion Mahasti, the babysitter, said that she was actively telling everyone about Amanda's cause and it was in hopes that people would donate and help her out. And one of her friends, who was extremely well off, told Mahasti that she would make a donation for sure. And one night, after picking her kids up from Mahasti, amanda turned around and facetiously said to her tell your rich friend thanks for the $100 donation and walked away.
Speaker 2:I love it. What an asshole.
Speaker 1:Right, oh, so oh. And Mahasti was like. She never even told me how much she donated, like even a dollar. You should be. Nobody owes you anything, and that completely changed the tone in which I saw her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no shit.
Speaker 1:So, while all of this is going on, in the forefront, nancy who, for the record, is not a PI, she's just a journalist and an investigative producer, which means she used to have to validate the stories that she would- report on. Okay, so she had, you know, some means, but she's not like I said, she's not a PI, but Amanda told her so much that this, for Nancy, absolutely bordered on an obsession, right.
Speaker 2:You're like investigating yeah.
Speaker 1:So Nancy had messaged ex-wife Alita and was very vague and she just wanted to touch base with the ex-wife and see if she had anything to say about the couple. Initially Alita told her that she would be happy to answer anything that she had to ask, but did not know if she would be much help because she didn't have a nice word to say about the couple. She was very upfront about that and in her experience she said everything they do is a lie and Nancy was now seeing that they they're probably on the same side here. So the two would be in contact regularly and they would compare stories and figure out where the cracks were. Nancy was also calling all of the treatment centers that Amanda was claiming to go to and she would inform the doctors and the nurses that she understood doctor patient confidentiality. But they did not have to give her any specific information. She encouraged them to look at the blog and if she was not a patient then there would be no breaking of the confidentiality agreement.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, I was wondering how they could even comment on that, but right, they can only comment on it's doctor patient.
Speaker 1:It's not doctor, random lady.
Speaker 2:Dr Random.
Speaker 1:So she would log everything that she found out and after three years, she would contact this San Jose police department. Wow, she spoke with Jose Martinez, who also you do not pronounce the JN which is like Vegeta. He was assigned to the financial fraud cases and would go through everything that she had learned. He said that he was the only one that worked the financial fraud cases, but at the time he was not allowed to say that because that would encourage people to commit more financial fraud, that's funny.
Speaker 1:So Amanda's latest claim in her blog was that her absolute last chance to beat this thing would be a drug that was not FDA approved.
Speaker 2:Sounds cheap.
Speaker 1:Yep. I bet this would be like a free trial, but I mean in reality, if you have no other chance, you'd be willing to be a testing member, because, like what if it is?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean there's studies like you know. It's funny, you think that I do anyways like North America and just because it's my bubble, I think is the greatest content, it's all the greatest medical minds in the world. But you know what there's sometimes there's so much fucking red tape that places like Germany and even Mexico are like on forefront of like a lot of these treatment Groundbreaking. I was listening the other day. There's a cancer vaccine that they're developing out of the MNMR technology from the COVID shots. That scares the shit out of me. So it's not going to prevent you from getting cancer, but it'll prevent the relapse coming back. So they're just having that conversation right now and so in about 10 years, that's really scary to me.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think man made medicines. I mean like obviously they work. We had a Canadian that invented insulin, but the new one scared me. Yeah, it's like if you don't want a second head. I love the commercials, the infomercials that are like does it burn when you pee here? Try this drug. It might give you suicidal tendencies. You might set your house on fire. It might also burn when you pee more. This time you might get strep throat. I'm not willing to do that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like how there are some of the commercials for drugs, like there's one it's called Saxenda and it's just like Saxenda, saxenda, saxenda, and they can't say what it is or what it is for, and they just say, they just repeat the name of the drug.
Speaker 1:You're having a fever dream. It's crazy. There's a woman that I personally know and her husband was on Champix. Is that the quitting smoking drug? Yes, yeah, and he it says that it will give you. Like. It doesn't say it will.
Speaker 1:It says that there's a likeliness for suicidal tendencies, and he ended his own life and the way she described it was like it wasn't as though he was even sad. It was like he had in his mind. He had a list of things that he had to get done, and one of those things was to take his own life. And so for him, it was just him completing a list, which is the craziest thing I've ever heard, like I don't understand how something could affect your brain that much, but she's very active about speaking out against it and like really making sure that you speak with your doctor about the risks of this drug, about Champix quitting drugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 1:So it's not FDA approved and, according to Amanda, it didn't even have any active studies in the States. The drug she was talking about was called Catruda and it would have to be administered by her doctor in New York, so Amanda's in California.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:After Amanda would have to pass 28 assessment tests, and even if that all worked, the treatment was still going to cost $12,500 a month.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a month, okay, that's how they get you. It's a subscription.
Speaker 1:And then, if you forget to cancel, oh shit, oh, I've a. So she would have to figure out how to get to and from New York from California as well. It was weird because Stanford Medical was close to Amanda and they have one of the leading cancer programs and they also were doing clinical studies of this medication. But she had to go to New York, which was puzzling. But who makes this stuff up, right, like where the fuck are all of her kids during all this too? Oh yeah, like you have two new-ish babies, right?
Speaker 2:The bonus baby.
Speaker 1:No, no, her kids are like I think they're one year apart. And then she's got the bonus kid. That kid's an outdoor kid, though, for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm like I'm gonna go out and get a girl by now.
Speaker 1:So lucky for her, she had another amazing member of her community who would either use her points or flat out pay for Amanda to fly, and would even get her first class. Wow, and Amanda. One of her blogs was like if you have the opportunity to fly first class, like highly recommend oh my God, I highly recommend you lie about having cancer.
Speaker 2:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Look at you, even like slurred through there, because you don't it sounds gross to say though. Doesn't it? It does the words coming out of your mouth are gross.
Speaker 2:Like I just don't. I don't know I saw such. I know we talk about a lot of things on this pod. I know murder fine by us.
Speaker 1:I I Shaking the big C.
Speaker 2:Listen, I probably would never lie about having cancer or commit murder, but I would probably kill somebody over? I think that that is more logical in some scenarios than going on this journey of bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just taking advantage of people Is the person you're gonna kill me In the room. Yeah, Is it when I cry about Taylor Swift songs and send you text messages?
Speaker 2:No, what did I say? I say yes. It rhymes with yes. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1:Oh dear.
Speaker 2:No, oh boy, oh, I would never kill you.
Speaker 1:The eye contact again. Nobody can see this. It's very threatening. So yeah, she would pay for Amanda to fly. This friend's name was Rebecca Cathero. She actually plays a pretty big part in this and she is a Earth Angel of a human being. She would arrange it so that Amanda could stay with one of her friends during her time in New York. She would randomly send her door dashes.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:To make her life easier and Rebecca had been using these shakes that's all these nutrients and stuff and when Amanda was feeling bad once, she offered them to Amanda to try, in hopes that it would make her feel better, and it did so. Rebecca set up an account for Amanda and it would come out of Rebecca's personal credit card. Of course Rebecca said she wasn't tallying any of the amounts, but it was hundreds of dollars a month for years.
Speaker 2:In smoothies.
Speaker 1:Shakes yeah.
Speaker 2:Shakes. Is that like a Rive? Yeah, probably. Yeah, one of those other, yeah, yeah, I think it's an MLM or something, something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, rebecca at one point ran into Amanda's mom, peggy, who was talking all about how she was currently purchasing a vacation home, which Rebecca felt strange about. Yeah, and when she brought it up to Amanda, amanda would say that her relationship with her mother was strange. So instead of giving to your daughter's cancer fund, you buy a vacation house? Okay sounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I have a bit of a right.
Speaker 1:I think your parents would probably sell the home that they live in to be able to help you out, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, but they wouldn't sell the trailer. They would definitely sell their house, but if it was like anything more than that, they'd be like. You know what that means. You had a good run, you did good kid I remember Dover Watch.
Speaker 1:he's a weirdo now, but Louis CK.
Speaker 2:I have, yeah, before he was weird.
Speaker 1:I think he was like 42 when he did one of his stand-up acts and he's like I'm getting to a point where, like it's no longer tragic if I die. Yeah, that's right, that's funny. Like if I got hit by a card morrow they'd be like, well, yeah he was 42.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like well, we're at the right page.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know. Meanwhile, Detective Martinez Jose would go to Amanda's church and he would see if there was anyone there who knew for a fact that Amanda had cancer. He talked to the head pastor, which isn't Chase.
Speaker 2:Whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's another guy. I only assume that because this pastor has a daughter who's a lawyer. I don't think Chase is old enough to even you know tie his own shoes.
Speaker 2:Chase is not old enough to be a lawyer himself. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:So he spoke with the head pastor and he would later speak with his daughter, who was an attorney. Both of them defended Amanda and asked who would fake something like this and asked if he'd seen her blog. Like hi, have you seen? She's got a blog, so that's gotta be legit. It's epic, yeah. So to which he replied that he could shave his head and take to social media and say whatever he wanted to say, but nothing came from this discussion, and now Martinez knew that he was on borrowed time until Amanda found out that they were looking into her.
Speaker 2:Oh right, I just wondered how you keep that under wraps.
Speaker 1:I guess you you you Well, fucking Nancy's been doing it for years now, Martinez. Yeah, that's right, detective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah. Nancy's fucking killing it with a 12 parter.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right. So when Amanda found out that they were looking into her, she marched right into that police station.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, what a fucking ego.
Speaker 1:Right, just you wait. She plopped a stack of papers down on the desk of Jose Martinez, and it was a list of the medications that she had to take every day. But the only issue with this list was it was done from a website that was self populated, so she could enter anything she wanted to, yes, and claim she was taking it, and Martinez knew that just by looking at it. And he's like she just wants me to shut up and go away.
Speaker 1:He's like, but I could tell by looking at this that she could have fully done this all on her own.
Speaker 2:It's like lady, this is a word dot.
Speaker 1:Lady, this is Times New Roman. All right, it's not even done like you. Hand wrote me this.
Speaker 2:This is not in crayon.
Speaker 1:The sad phase. I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2:You wrote it on the back of the map on the Chili's Kidz menu. That's called back.
Speaker 1:That's a good call back, that's called bringing it back around. When Martinez called to ensure that it was even, in fact, amanda who left the stack for him, she told him that she would now be corresponding only through her attorney. During a custody hearing, alita asked Nancy so Alita the ex-wife, nancy the PI, who's not a PI If she could bring up the investigation that was going on about Amanda. And Nancy said that now that the police department was involved and had blown it. You know it was a true full blown investigation at this point.
Speaker 1:She could mention it at the hearing and when she did, amanda would claim to everyone that Nancy was a friend of Alita's who's just out to get her, and Nancy, in return, would write a letter for Alita and her attorney to present, stating that she was not a friend of Alita's and did not know her at all.
Speaker 2:Before any of this started happening, oh right, okay, yeah, cause they knew yeah, yeah, before hand.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, so in her blog Amanda would refer to Nancy as the enemy, like she'd talk about how she was getting a new job and she's like, don't ruin this for me, enemy, and blah, blah, blah. Oh my God, shut the fuck up, amanda. Yeah, I mean she's sick. So it's super rude for me to say that, but I'm stripping.
Speaker 2:Yes and wow, Hello da da. Oh, my God. It's a hot in here though yeah, I know I cranked the heat up, falling right into my trap. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:So Nancy would arrive home on a Friday of a long weekend to a letter in her mailbox stating that Amanda Riley had filed for a restraining order. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:An exciting harassment.
Speaker 1:And Nancy had no room to contest it because she had to be in court on Tuesday morning and this was a long weekend where the Monday was the holiday.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So she was supposed to go. It's like a five hour drive but luckily for Nancy these papers were not formally served. She said when they're interviewing her about this, she's like you're supposed to serve Nancy. All these people did was serve a mailbox. They don't know that it's falling into my hands.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And therefore she did not need to do shit for the time being, and, as an absolute shocker to no one, the request to have a restraining order was littered with lies. Nancy considers herself to be a very professional when it comes to investigations and she was actually really worried because she was like it could really tarnish my reputation.
Speaker 2:Oh, a restraining order on an investigator? Yeah, Absolute. They're like what in the fuck measures are you taking Exactly?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were saying oh, she got a man to fire from her job, she got Corey fired from his job. She was pretending to be an FBI agent. Oh, my gosh, there's a whole bunch of shit that they said, but, amanda, she is a fucking liar. So now we're here in 2015. Jessa is 13 and she is the primary caregiver for her two younger brothers.
Speaker 2:Wow, sorry, how old was she? 13. 13, geez.
Speaker 1:Corey is either working or out, and Amanda spends almost all day in her bed.
Speaker 2:Like watching TV. Watching TV Not having cancer. Oh my God, what do you? What do you end up to these days Not having cancer?
Speaker 1:So Jessa had started to question things on her own Like she's a pretty smart little chick and she had noticed that Amanda had stopped going to all of her appointments and Corey certainly wasn't going to any. So something just felt off and she's now able to see her mom. In the Scamanda podcast it said that she was able to see her for two hours a week, so they just would go and park the car and talk and that basically just led them to, you know, chatting about Amanda and all this kind of stuff. When Jessa started telling Alita about her feelings that something was off, alita felt as though she could not hide the investigation anymore from Jessa.
Speaker 2:Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1:So she told her daughter and you know, sadly Jessa still had to go back to her fathers and she had to play it off if she didn't know anything at all, because if she was to tip Amanda and Corey off it would most definitely result in her not being able to talk to her mom anymore. Oh yeah, and still in the background, our detective Martinez and Nancy were working their asses off. Martinez got in touch with Amanda's attorney and he asked the same question as he had been asking everyone Do you know for a fact that she has cancer? And her attorney would say well, she told me she has cancer. And if you look at her blog which again was no confirmation and later on Detective Martinez would receive a doctor's note from Amanda's attorney and it would have a doctor's header, the hospital name. It also had the doctor's signature and the note said that his patient, amanda C Riley, was now in remission. Okay, these doctor's notes aren't hard to forge if you have an in somehow, right? I?
Speaker 2:will not say who.
Speaker 1:But one of the dentists that I used to work for was like just forge my signature. I don't have time for all these signatures. That's awesome, still have that pad, yeah. So you know this would be simple enough. He could contact the hospital and find out if the doctor knew what his signature had been for. The hospital was one that came up frequently in Amanda's blog. It was called City of Hope and it was located in Southern California. Martinez spoke to the legal team there. So at first he had been speaking with just administrative and then he was like okay, I'm not getting too far with this because they're doctor, you know their hands are tied. So he started asking if he could speak with the legal teams and they were a lot more willing to talk to them Because they're saying we might be fucked here.
Speaker 2:Exactly, we're being dragged into something like this. You're exactly right.
Speaker 1:He gave his normal speech about doctor patient confidentiality not being broken if Amanda wasn't a patient there, and then he sent them the blog and he waited. And when he finally did and he waited, when he finally did hear back, they informed him that Amanda had had no appointments with them. Oh, like.
Speaker 2:Zippity-doodle-dee. See, in case like this, like you know, she would go to the hospital for a checkup and then have her parking pass or stub or something, and then oh, but I was at the hospital here, but she just didn't even go that far.
Speaker 1:This bitch is bold though. She's probably fucking sitting back watching like TGI Fridays.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Do you remember TGI Fridays with like Sabrina, teenage Witch and all that kind of stuff that was on?
Speaker 2:Well, but I don't know what. Oh, the TV's yes.
Speaker 1:I think it meant the restaurant. Oh, that'd be good too. Yeah, so Amanda had no appointments, and this was particularly strange because Amanda was actually supposed to be coming to this very hospital for a stem cell treatment and I don't know if she's going to be able to get a job or not. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. So Amanda was supposed to be coming to this very hospital for a stem cell transplant. Kind of a big deal, that's a big one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a big one, and would therefore be spending quite a lot of time at the hospital.
Speaker 1:Well, you have pre-surgery appointments. You got all the.
Speaker 2:Surgery Post.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stem cell moving. So Corey had even written to Elita stating that he planned on moving his family, including Jessa, to Southern California for Amanda to undergo her surgeries. So, like I mean, this wasn't just a misunderstanding. Oh, wow, she didn't misspeak.
Speaker 1:So that's a lot. But Jose finally felt like he had her. But even though he had caught her lying about the hospital stays, it technically didn't mean she didn't have cancer. He didn't want to present this to the district attorney Because they put a hole in it. It's really just circumstantial right. It's not like. The hospital is kind of just background information.
Speaker 2:There's no real gotcha, exactly.
Speaker 1:It just says well, she just didn't have it here, right exactly. So with no real proof, it was hard for Martinez to investigate because he had to guarantee what he was doing within his jurisdiction. He could have taken all these other places like Nancy, could you know?
Speaker 2:what I mean. Right, he has to stay within his limits. Howusiz putting in the work, though. Eh, you know what You're fucking. Bravo, jose. I was a little critical.
Speaker 1:earlier you came in a little hard with the first round of questions. You're just the church instantly, yeah, like, and uh, we appreciate boldness here too it's just we do, but there's a tact. You were a bit much, yeah, but now we love you, jose.
Speaker 2:I would have been like okay, we have the case, it's here. The hospital said no. I was like hey guys, don't do it, arrest her.
Speaker 1:District attorney is like okay, matt, you really just gotta stop coming in here. We closed the door. We said please don't come in here, matt, it's enough. It's like my kids when I'm trying to do research and they just my kids never want me more than when I'm researching a case.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I've got like my phone and I'm listening to something on it and my kids come in and they're like and then he cut her up into 17 pieces. I'm like get out.
Speaker 2:So what happened to that? Case oh I think the victim kept interrupting somebody over and over again.
Speaker 1:I only do it too, like it's usually after dinner, after bath, so their bedtime is eight. I'll start researching at like 7, 30 ish. It's in that last half an hour that these kids are like. We are so in love with you right now that we have to be here. It's the boys too. Olivia could take me or leave me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm the same with live. You call her live. I call her Lou. Can I call her live? You can call her whatever you want to call her.
Speaker 2:I would like to call her Lou.
Speaker 1:I call her Louie all the time. I don't know why. I think it was like Olivia Lou when she was little and now I just call her Louie. Like you know, we're the live. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Olivia is like she gets pissed off, though when people call her Olivia because her name starts with an O, it's Olivia.
Speaker 2:Oh, Olivia.
Speaker 1:My name doesn't start with an A Right.
Speaker 2:Olivia, it's not an O, it's an O For now. O. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1:Come on, get it together. Other seven year olds. So Nancy was obviously still working on things from her end and she was discussing things with her father-in-law one day, who was a retired IRS agent oh nice and he recommended that she contact the IRS, because if Amanda is accepting any money through online transfers and if she was receiving them under false pretenses, then that is wire fraud, which is a lot like the older version of mail fraud.
Speaker 1:So Nancy got in touch with Arlette Lee, who is an IRS special agent, and told her everything they knew and sent her the blog. Agent Lee also happened to have a sister who was sick with cancer, so she took this particularly topic very seriously. She advised Nancy that she would be working the case, but she could not share her findings and she would not be checking in but just to trust that she would be working on things. Nancy also called the hospital in New York who Amanda was claiming was giving her the catruda, because Amanda had of course made another post. Get this fucking shit. She was saying how, with the holidays coming up, her doctor had given her a supply of the trial drug and was now allowing her to administer her chemo by herself at home in her bathroom.
Speaker 2:I thought you had to like get a whole nevermind. Yeah, I'm starting to be like that's bullshit. But it obviously is bullshit. I'm like I'm starting to argue with you.
Speaker 1:You know what, Lynn, I'm not saying I think you're bullshit Lynn, I think you're a bullshit artist.
Speaker 2:What do you think you had?
Speaker 1:So Nancy gave them all of the information that she had and then she waited for months to hear back from them. When they called back, they said that they could not divulge any information, but they could confirm or deny her inquiries. So Nancy would use Amanda's own blog to be able to get the dates and locations and that's how she was able to say, on this date da, da, da, da da. So the first thing that she asked was if they started a clinical trial of the drug catruta on a patient on a certain date, to which they responded no.
Speaker 2:Sorry, she's talking to the New York hospital. The hospital, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So the hospital said no, they had not started a catruta trial. In fact they answered no when confirming about 90% of Nancy's questions. Which were just general yes, right and like the 10% was probably like-.
Speaker 2:Are you located in New York? Right is your-.
Speaker 1:Are you a hospital?
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you have a blue sign with a white H on top of your roof.
Speaker 1:So they even said that they did not have an active trial of the drug catruta going on right now. At all period, nowhere in that hospital was there any patient that had this clinical trial. And Then they said that being able to self inject this drug was just simply out of the question. The drug needed to be reconstituted in a well-ventilated pharmacy, it had to be mixed with another solution at the time of administration and it had to be kept in below freezing temperatures.
Speaker 2:You fucking idiot, amanda like is that to go in the butt? Because some shots you need in the butt, cheek. I don't know if you can do that by yourself. Yeah, it's like B12, I think, is in the butt.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. Oh, she had a port which was fake, but she had a port just above her heart.
Speaker 2:You can say boob. I Don't know where the heart is.
Speaker 1:But yeah, she had a fake port above her which got infected because you know what fake entries fucking suck. So it had to be administered through IV for half-hour periods. Amanda was lying, oh.
Speaker 2:It's not even injection, it's an IV. It's an IV. Yeah, you've got to let drip and that's great and like mix it compound. You have to go to a compounder first. You're very smart.
Speaker 1:I don't under. I'm like a well-ventilated Pharmacy like that sounds it like it's dangerous to even inhale, Yikes so so it's just the, the refrigeration unit, because I don't know why the pharmacy wouldn't.
Speaker 2:You could have a stuffy fucking pharmacy as long as your freezer is okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think that when you're reconstituting- all right when you're mixing it.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, of course we're. You need like one of those like toxic fume shields with the hutch has Matthew, yeah, I. Was working in the lab late.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Amanda's, but no, and she took a picture of her and she's got like the vial and she's holding it Right in front of her face. She's talking about how she's so lucky. Well, she's being facetious when she's saying, oh, thanks a lot, I get to inject myself. And and One of I think it might have been Nancy that said it was saying like once it's mixed and everything, it has a hue of a color to it and what Amanda had in front of her face was completely clear and she's like the likeliness that that is just a vial of saline is pretty good Wow yeah, like getting props, yeah for this lie and it's so elaborate.
Speaker 1:It's like do something good with your fucking energy, you could change the world. Yeah, so you would think at this point, with the walls closing in on her, amanda would give up. But she didn't. If anything, she just doubled down on her blog I love it when she was constantly thanking everyone for being so generous and helping her. During these times, nancy had received notice that the IRS, along with agents, were going to be serving a search warrant on Cori and Amanda's house wicked, yeah, detective Martinez would be part of it. And when they had the home surrounded and begin knocking at the door Before dawn which was done intentionally so as not to allow anybody the chance to destroy evidence.
Speaker 2:Well, it catches you off guard.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right. So they want their suspect to be their most vulnerable mentally.
Speaker 2:What's, what's, what's this, what's there?
Speaker 1:Do you want to paint me like your French girls? So Martinez said. He went straight in and began looking for a sedative type of anxiety medication this is taught to them in training such as Xanax, as it was not uncommon for a suspect to take a pill at the beginning of a raid in Order to mask their emotions and their nervousness. And he found an open bottle of Xanax.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, instincts, martinez.
Speaker 1:You know what, martinez?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are so in love with you. I apologize for my rush to judgment on you, martinez, maybe that's what we needed that bold move asking the church right away.
Speaker 1:You know what you're, what we needed.
Speaker 2:Dance if I asked you to dance.
Speaker 1:Would you run and never look back? This is just us singing and reeking. You do dimes. Would you stay with me?
Speaker 2:Jennifer love you. It for some reason shows up in the fucking music video.
Speaker 1:I get it, I'm in weird you don't like Jennifer.
Speaker 2:Love you it, I do, but I'm like you got anacorn a cova in the other one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's his girl. Now he doesn't want right. I mean, this is literally the only chance he gets to branch out.
Speaker 2:You're gonna pick someone else true, but no, yes, I do love her. I also have a big Freddie Prince Jr. Okay, Wow, yeah, I listen to his podcast.
Speaker 1:He's a podcast. I think I knew that yeah is he still married to Buffy?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's so great. Do you know what his podcast is about? No it's About wrestling, so he used to work as a writer for the WWE.
Speaker 1:Did you know that our I'm sorry to interrupt you no, no, no, go ahead. Did you see the comment from our one male patron, matt? I don't think so he wants me to cover a WWE case. Oh, nice.
Speaker 2:Slipknot or something superfly, superfly, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a little fucking piece of shit. I'm like oh, your name's Matt, you like wrestling.
Speaker 2:Oh, you thought it was me. Like an old Idiot. Didn't even change his first name, was fake account. How dumb think I am.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's not many wrestling fans out there. Boy is Drake on my face. So, yes, the raid. Amanda's taken a zan X. Yeah, she's super chill Sitting on a living room couch having full-on conversations with these officers Like people were not there, just tearing her house apart. And she looked at detective Martinez and she said to him oh so your Martinez.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:After this Amanda's life. Yeah, she just sideways insults.
Speaker 2:Love a short king.
Speaker 1:I love. You know what they say, that you guys love donuts, but it's working for you.
Speaker 2:You must really love.
Speaker 1:So after this, amanda's life pretty much went back to normal. Oh good, but her next blog post would leave her supporters speechless.
Speaker 2:She wrote we'll have that next week and our three parter.
Speaker 1:We're almost there, matt hang in with me. So she wrote. The doctor was gentle but basically explained at this point it's no longer medically plausible for me to be cured. In all fairness, I knew it was coming, but it was still tough to hear. Then I asked how long, and he said it all depends on how my body reacts to drugs. Maybe three to six months.
Speaker 2:How am I gonna get the drugs? Well, they're very expensive. So you're saying, is the most? However much money I raise, that's all I can live for. That's essentially what I'm saying. Okay, thank you. Thank you for my blogs.
Speaker 1:And uh, it was actually in between those two time estimates when Amanda posted another message to her followers After going silent for five months. Amanda wrote it's been a while since I posted. I've been trying to rediscover normalcy, if I'm being honest, which of course she is shut the fuck up. If I'm being honest, this isn't quite what I thought life without cancer would be like.
Speaker 2:Oh, she doesn't have cancer anymore. No, I thought the next blog is I've died. I, uh, I didn't make it.
Speaker 1:My family would be allowing donations to go to them.
Speaker 1:So she rambles on about how she's an entirely different person from the person she was before life gotten hard. Wow. She praises herself for being stronger than she thought she was, as well as saying that some people who she used to want to be friends with now have just lost their appeal. And then she would shut down her blog and move to another city in california. That was only about a half an hour away from where she had been previously scamming people, and she became a principal of a private christian school named pacific point elementary school. She teacher. Well, if you're wondering if she has her teacher's license, if she went to teachers college, the answer to that is no, oh. What should be noted is Amanda never went to teachers college and it was unclear if she lied about having a degree, which I mean probably, or private schools do not require a teaching degree, which I would think maybe more so I don't think they do I'm going
Speaker 2:to be a principal then, because I think that I knew somebody who taught drama At a school of private schools and his kids went for free. That was the trade-off Right his kids got free admission.
Speaker 1:I hear what you're saying, but you would think that a school that people have to pay to be part of would have a higher standards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or they just. It's just some elitist thing that you and I have no idea what goes on behind those doors and they just Although. I know my brother coaches lacrosse at st Andrews college and uh, he says how do you have a sister-in-law in Australia? Uh, I have a nephew in Australia. I have an ex sister in law in Australia.
Speaker 1:Ex and your brother's here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but sister you only have one brother, though, right. One brother, one sister.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, now the whole picture's coming together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, he says that all of the kids that are in this school graduate and go to college and get drafted into like sports leagues and scholarships into college.
Speaker 1:So that's like the university of what was the one, the UCC.
Speaker 2:That's a different one yeah. Upper Canada College. Yeah, yeah, this is-.
Speaker 1:Remember I brought the one up in the William Russell one and you're like, oh yeah, the UCC.
Speaker 2:Oh, I did that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm like everybody from there, like there's a hundred percent graduation. Yeah, I know, I know about the UCC.
Speaker 2:Everybody knows that. Okay, Stupid.
Speaker 1:So this one's yep, she didn't have a teacher's, she hadn't had a job in years and now she is a principal, so it was unclear if she lied about it, probably, but who knows? Another thing about the Scamander podcast that I said here is that you get to hear from everybody involved. So I'm really trying to sell you guys on this other podcast.
Speaker 2:I like it. I'm actually gonna unsubscribe from ours and I'm gonna see if I can join Scamander, but you're still in our Patreon I know it. I know you're still in the Patreon With a different last name.
Speaker 1:I'm still in the Patreon, so we get to hear from a woman whose name is Rebecca Spencer. So there's two Rebecca's now. So Rebecca Cathero was the one that was paying for Amanda's flights to and from New York. Right, this is Rebecca Spencer. She's a mother of a child that goes to Amanda's school.
Speaker 2:One of her pupils? Yeah, under her tutelage.
Speaker 1:That's in your eye.
Speaker 2:As a he's so smart.
Speaker 1:He is so much so. She's the mom of two boys, jonathan and James. Sadly, jonathan is actually terminally ill with a rare disorder that affects roughly about one in a hundred thousand children. It's called Neiman Pick disease type C and it's present from birth. There is no survival rate because it will always be fatal, but if your child shows symptoms as an infant, they most likely will not see their fifth birthday. However, if the symptoms don't show up until after five, they could live to be at least 20.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And when Amanda found out just dollar signs, I'm sure as a opportunistic yeah no, I was just kind of half kidding, no Cause, oh shit, I'm not real.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh. So when searching for a school, rebecca was given a tour of Pacific Point Elementary School by none other than Amanda Riley. And wouldn't you know it, amanda was very sympathetic to Jonathan's condition because she had actually had cancer as well, and that really spoke to Rebecca. She gladly enrolled her youngest son, james. Jonathan couldn't go, unfortunately, because of his condition, but James was in Amanda's school. But after a little bit, sadly, amanda's cancer came back. No, let's not forget that she's been terminal three times.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So her cancer came back and again the community rallied, half an hour away from her other community that rallied.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What's happening Do?
Speaker 2:these Chili's area managers not talk to each other?
Speaker 1:No, it's a feud Mine, Chili's the best. So they would have another fundraiser. And there was also another staff member who the children referred to as Miss Cindy. She had cancer and the school would have a fundraiser to help both women with medical bills and would give out shirts to those who donated. That said Pat Point Strong. Even the mother of the terminally ill child, Jonathan, donated $500 to help.
Speaker 2:You've like that. Listen, you're going to hell for all of this, but that is. That's the first ballot of your admission to hell is having a mother of a terminally ill son donate.
Speaker 1:Donate a dollar. This woman's paying for her own child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very, very yucky. Sadly, though, not long after the fundraiser, Miss Cindy would pass away from her sickness. Oh geez, Amanda did keep her blog down, but now she had moved on to Facebook and instead of writing now she was doing selfie videos of her stupid fucking face. And something that was interesting was that she never said the word cancer on her new platform. She only referred to it as her sickness. I assume that this is so that if they ever discovered down the road that she did not have cancer, she could say well, I never said cancer, I just said I was sick.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately for Amanda, her school caught wind of the fact that she was faking cancer and she ended up being let go from her position as principal. Nice, see you fucking later.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Finally, some good news in this part today, after she was let go, she and her family moved to Texas. She decided half hour away, probably isn't part of, but she was gonna try to shake this whole scam thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, when going to court for the restraining order that Amanda had taken out on investigator Nancy. They had finally come to a decision and two years after filing, it was determined that Nancy did not break any rules by researching Amanda and no restraining order was enforced During this case. If, at any point, amanda was able to show proof that she had cancer, that would have won her case.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, it would show that she wasn't a liar and this woman was really just out to get her. But, of course, no such document was ever presented to the judge. When the judgment was made, amanda's attorney advised that they were going to appeal. The judge told them that they would be within their rights if they wanted to appeal, but that they should be prepared to divulge all of Amanda's health records to Nancy if they do so. No appeal was ever filed and, according to Nancy, she almost wished that they had an appeal Totally. In July of 2020, amanda was finally indicted on the wire fraud. There we go, and once again, amanda had the perfect explanation for everyone. Amanda would tell people that the reason she was in trouble with the IRS is because she was unaware that she had to pay taxes on her donation. She said that she would simply send the paperwork and bingo bongo, this whole misunderstanding. It would be resolved. You know what I mean, and that's a fucking good lie too.
Speaker 2:It is a good lie.
Speaker 1:honestly, I would be like yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I would have known that you would if I was collecting donations for myself Not a chance. No, I wouldn't have known that.
Speaker 1:I'm still not sure if that's even true. Yeah, that's a good point, so it seems reasonable enough, but a lot of Amanda's supporters were now turning on her. She did have a few that stuck around and believed in her. That was until October 15th of 2020. At Amanda's preliminary trial. That was conducted over Zoom because of the vid Cove and everybody was welcome to join and watch. And she lost her last supporters when she pled guilty to the charges against her. Oh, she didn't have a fucking choice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:How are you going?
Speaker 2:to. I'm kind of disappointed in her. I thought she would just hang on to that lie.
Speaker 1:The judge is going to be like show me one thing that says that you actually have cancer. And she's like I can't. Like she didn't have a choice. She had to plead guilty. Crazy. Imagine like she fucking took everybody for all their money and then she had to like take the fucking taxes so that she could go to a trial for all this too.
Speaker 1:Like, actually that sounds pretty unbrand. So Amanda was given five years in prison and she will be under supervision for three years following her release, and she is ordered to pay a restitution to 350 victims and those are just the ones who did online transfers.
Speaker 2:Do we have an estimate how much she?
Speaker 1:105,000 online, so cash Wow.
Speaker 2:So cash is probably like Way more, way more.
Speaker 1:They would send the basket around at church and stuff Like that's where she got her main money right and the cash at her feet, and people bringing her food and all that kind of stuff and like the fucking airlines and all that kind of stuff. Like you can't.
Speaker 2:There's just no way to figure it all out, being put up in New York City for all of them.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah, so that's anyone who paid online, anyone who paid cash or gift or food. You're fucked. You're fucked, sorry. Something that is a little bit funny is that Amanda's mom, peggy, only donated $10 through the fundraiser and when Amanda was trying to spin the theory that she had not paid her taxes on the donations, peggy was telling everyone the exact same thing and that she had sat with Amanda during her chemo and held her hand, which is obviously alive. So she's fucking shitty apple doesn't fall through far from the shitty tree. So it's not hard to think that Peggy's probably complicit and this scam and that's where she got probably the money for her vacation home.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Jessa now is 19,. She's married and she is super close with her mom, Alita.
Speaker 2:They were able to reconcile and move on to that. That's just done you good for Alita. Like that would be tough to reconcile after that.
Speaker 1:Yes, kind of you know but that's nice. Corey was never indicted on anything. It seems kind of hard, did he know?
Speaker 2:If he didn't fucking know you had to right.
Speaker 1:He shaved her head. Can't you see that there's not? She apparently had a beautiful head of hair, I'll show you. Hold on. But he says that he was never indicted. So who knows?
Speaker 2:Wow, like, did they lay in bed at night after you know the day of fundraising and did they laugh with each other? Are they like, wow, what a we're truly blessed. Are they like these fucking idiots? Isn't this great?
Speaker 1:I've got to tell you that if I was with the most attractive man in the world, you currently like this exact moment. Right now. But so if you, because you're the most, you're sure If you ever said half of these things, I would be like that is the most un-fucking-appealing person I've ever seen in my life. Like there's no chance that you could fake this. Like you have to find your perfect match Because if you're able to fake cancer and they don't think that you're the scum of the earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I don't know how you mean.
Speaker 2:But they're still together. Yeah, oh, oh, so he was in on it for sure.
Speaker 1:Look it, that's her.
Speaker 2:She's cute oh yeah, yeah, I donate 20 bucks. We are on board time right now, I know.
Speaker 1:Do you want me to read what she said in the court or do you want me to skip it? Amanda, yes, you want, okay.
Speaker 2:Because I just I want to know what she like has to.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do, Okay, I want to hear if she's like I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2:I lied to you, or just got it a hand and one small, and he wasn't aware she kept doing it. She did it in fucking Texas again.
Speaker 1:Like somebody messaged Nancy from Texas saying we have the person here that you're investigating and she's pulling the same shit in Texas Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:So here's what she said. She's a little bit long-winded. Okay, your honor, there aren't enough words to adequately express how I feel and how sorry I am that this happened. Like bitch, this didn't just happen. You fucking did this, that's right. My heart aches every day thinking I did something that hurt other people. This is the worst thing I've ever done and the worst mistake I could have made. I don't sleep well at night because this haunts me daily. I don't believe that, for a fucking second.
Speaker 1:Well, she probably doesn't sleep well in a fucking jail cell. I've seen those beds. I cannot even look at myself in the mirror without feeling ashamed. I'm so sorry. Looking back and recognizing that I hurt a lot of people crushes me, and it has for a really long time now. Get ready for the self-discovery, for the self-serving bullshit, because that's coming up. I have been dealing with the repercussions of this for years. Peter Beanie oh no. I threw away my dream career, lost all of my friends and family. I went from being a nobody to being negatively covered in dozens of tabloids and news articles.
Speaker 2:Hmm, and a 12-parter? Hmm, poor little thing. No, I'm mean to you. You got a hold of me. You made a 12-parter, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm paranoid that I'm being followed all the time and I'm too scared to open social media messages for fear of what they will say. Hmm, and the hurtful things that people have to say to me, no.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:Until today, I have never publicly addressed this, and it's time I step forward and be accountable. Bitch, you were forced to be accountable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. You're in court making a reading, a prepared statement.
Speaker 1:You dumb fucking bitch, you've done this fucking 43 times.
Speaker 1:Like so she says, to try to right this wrong. I'm here to accept responsibility and humbly accept my consequences. Fuck off, hmm. As a first step of showing everyone I want to make this right. I will spend the rest of my life working towards the amends for the hurt that I have caused. I want to publicly apologize to all of the victims, in this case specifically the church and those who participated or helped with the fundraising. To all of the kind, loving people who helped us. I ask that you don't be deterred from your servant's heart because of my mistake. Please continue to help those in need, fuck off, you don't get to tell anybody to do anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know how many, how many, hundreds and thousands of dollars you have prevented people from getting, because people won't donate now, because you burned them.
Speaker 1:Miss Cindy, who was the other staff member, had to split the fundraising funds with this fucking dumb bitch who didn't have any cancer, and Miss Cindy died not long after that. Like you are only apologizing because you're sitting in court, Mm-hmm. Sorry. I've listened to this podcast three times and I'm right fired up about it Really.
Speaker 2:I didn't know you were fired up. I thought you were actually quite calm, cool and collected.
Speaker 1:Smash my computer on the wall. I'm like, well, we're not doing a Patreon today. So she says I wanted to apologize to my family, corey, my husband, my parents, my brothers, our best friends that we considered family, and our kids. You're still fucking lying, because your mom was in on it with you for sure.
Speaker 2:If not your husband too, yeah.
Speaker 1:Our life would never be the same because of my choices, and I'm so sorry for that. Jessa, my bonus daughter, I hope this brings you the closure and clarity that you have been seeking. I'm so sorry. You were in the dark for what was truly happening for so long. You had to walk through this and it breaks my heart to know I hurt you. I do love you and I've always loved you. You were like my own. There is nothing I can say or do to make this better for you, except to promise through my actions that I will work each day for the rest of my life to rebuild our relationship from the hurt that I have caused you, and I hope one day we can get there. Our two boys were just babies when this started, so they were too young to be affected by my bad choices. They're going to get older, you fucking dummy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't think they're going to be teased because their mom's a volume of aluminum.
Speaker 1:And Corey and I have worked so hard to protect and shelter them from this so they could lead normal lives. Good luck, don't do this then. That's the easiest way to shelter them from. It's stupid, and she continues now to see them as big boys who are going to see their mom go through this process is going to flip the world upside down. Being a good mom is what I've always wanted most in this world.
Speaker 1:And it is my job to love and protect them. So it breaks my heart Most of all that the reason they're going to be hurt and not see their mom every day is because of me. I humbly write you this as a way of accountability for the first steps and trying to right an incredible wrong, and I promise to spend the rest of my life trying to better myself. I promise I will spend the rest of my life spent helping others and not hurt and not hurting them. And the judge's response was basically saying that she had no doubt that if Amanda was let go, she would re-offend again. And then she told her that she is certain that Amanda likely sounded just as sincere in front of all of her Donators as she did Saying those words in the courtroom today.
Speaker 2:Totally.
Speaker 1:And that's bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Speaker 2:It is bullshit. She's just trying to get a lighter sentence and you know her lawyer prepared that for her. Like that's, like everything that you, that's the proper things to say.
Speaker 1:I fucking hate her so much. Right, you know what? I would run her over with my car. I would and that's that. Wow, I fucking hate her.
Speaker 2:Corey's guilty too.
Speaker 1:Corey's definitely guilty. I'm sorry, but he's definitely guilty.
Speaker 2:Corey's guilty, mom's guilty, jose, again my apologies.
Speaker 1:You know what we are, so Love, mr Martinez. I'm Anans Nans, you're a fucking hero.
Speaker 2:I hope you know that she's like a little Aaron Brockovich or something you know.
Speaker 1:Lovely little Aaron Brockovich. Yep, well, thank you guys for giving me a podcast today. Mmm, you were the feet on the ground. Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2:Nans.
Speaker 1:And we're going to do our one page run and then we are freed All right, okay, bye. Bye.