In this captivating podcast episode, join Charles & Christy Muir, some of the biggest names in Tantra in America as they share their transformative journey from yoga to Tantra & its profound impact on their lives. Delve into their personal stories, exploring how their upbringing & parental influences shaped their perspectives on intimacy, relationships, & love. Tune in to this episode to unlock the secrets of Tantra & discover how to rewire your brain for greater intimacy & profound healing.
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In this captivating podcast episode, join Charles & Christy Muir, some of the biggest names in Tantra in America as they share their transformative journey from yoga to Tantra & its profound impact on their lives. Delve into their personal stories, exploring how their upbringing & parental influences shaped their perspectives on intimacy, relationships, & love. Tune in to this episode to unlock the secrets of Tantra & discover how to rewire your brain for greater intimacy & profound healing.
YOU’LL LEARN
EPISODE LINKS *some links below may also be affiliate links
Leah & Willow's King & Queen of Hearts Intimacy Toolkit is on sale. Use Coupon Code KINGANDQUEEN10 for 10% off. https://www.sexreimagined.com/the-king-and-queen-of-hearts
Awaken Arousal Oil Lubricant "I had a 3-minute orgasm and then a 5-minute orgasm." - Beth https://exploreforia.com/awaken-so?irclickid=wyXW6byI5xyNWouwIoQAUS1GUkAx4m1JsS6bSc0&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Impact&utm_campaign=Sex%20Reimagined&utm_c
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He is the OG of the OG when it comes to Tantra in America.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Charles Muir is the originator of Tantra, the Art of Conscious Loving and Sacred Spot Massage Techniques. He's been quoted in over a hundred books on Tantra.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah, his beautiful wife, Christy Muir has been on a spiritual path, going to pilgrimages all over the world. She studied with so many incredible teachers. She's an incredible somatic therapist and all around Queen B Baby. And she is now the, I think, the primary female facilitator at Source School of Tantra Yoga. And they're here today to shine their love on all of us. And you get to hear a lot of great stories on being in partnership and having magic moments and rewiring the brain.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:So let's now tune in, turn on and fall in love with Charles and Christy Muir.
Announcer:Welcome to the Sex Reimagined Podcast, where sex is shame free and pleasure forward. Let's get into the show.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:We have Charles and Christy Muir personal beloved friends here today to talk about some very important things. Two people who have a lot of experience seeing transformations in the lives of people who have overcome sexual trauma and who have wrestled with shame and come out the victor over the shame monster. So welcome.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You're welcome.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I'm happy to be here.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right now I'm in Hawaii and they're back home in California. So it would've been fun maybe to have done this back home, all three of us in the same room.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I'm curious for both of you, like what was one of the, your earliest moments in life where you're like, wow there's some shame here. There's some, because you both have been on the journey for such a long time. I'm just curious if you can recall way back when you were like, wow, I need to heal this. This is getting in the way of my life force energy.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Shame as an emotion gets drilled into us. We don't have shame when we're a baby. We fart, we poop, we laugh, and it gets baked into our cake from society, from role models like our parents, our friends who have no education and I was one of those kids, very curious, but there was no one to do it with. I lived in a very Roman Catholic neighborhood, street gang actually, and I was the only Episcopalian. So I got the Catholic guilt with a little bit of underlying Protestant of you should be ashamed if you don't have a work ethic, if you don't married and have a kid, if you're not a productive. Sexual shame is just hmm. Made to its fullest by the Catholic church, I believe. And thank God they're making some changes.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah, we to see that shift for sure.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:And that's one of the major changes I see from when I was a child teenager to now, and even from when I was a young yogi to now, sex was imbued with guilt, fear, and shame. Because of our lack of education and lack instead of getting information, we got false information. And you throw in a church and you're going to go to hell, don't enjoy the experience, don't have it. But when you do, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I couldn't envision that as a 20 year yogi how sex and as a society here in the west has changed in the last 70 years, even the last 50 years, even since the sexual revolution.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I've watched things change, and that's looking into a future. You can't project from here. How amazing it could be there in our future. What if we didn't, as a culture, have jealousy on us or the big three? Guilt, fear and shame. What if those could be just banished out of the chambers of our mind and new chambers, new neuro circuits from the brain back to our genitals of this is heavenly. This is God's gift, and this is healthy to have these orgasms. And the Tantric techniques that help you extend the orgasm more powerful longer in more parts of you caused by different nerve endings than just the primary ones in the genitals.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah, very well said. You know, as you asked the question about, early experiences of shame, my, I was kind of going down memory lane and I was remembering a very early memory. I don't remember quite how old I was. I think I might have been like four or five and somehow I was in the hallway of the house that I was growing up in. Actually, I think it was maybe before my brother was born, so I might have even been younger than that. And I think I was like touching myself. And my mother came upon me and she found me. And she was like, Ew, that's disgusting. Only do that in your own bedroom, right? And so contraction around, it's not, good to touch your own body and no kind of redirect around pleasure or like, oh honey, yeah, you're discovering yourself. Why don't you know, go into your own room and do that in a private space. It's a wonderful thing. Like, no, nothing like that. Just layering disgust and immediate feelings of shame onto that. So, you know, if our parents and the environment that we're going in grow or born into. Are carrying forward that generational shame, then it's really difficult to have a foundation of a healthy relationship to our own body and that energy as it arises. I can remember watching movies with my family when I was growing up, and there was a sex scene that came on, everyone in the room stopped breathing. Nobody would look at eachother.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:God so awkward.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I think a lot of people can relate to that feeling.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:I mean,
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:I still kind of feel that way. If I see a sex scene and I'm watching something with my family, it's like, depends on how hot the sex scene is. But if there's just like a ton of nudity for a really long time and I'm watching like a film with my parents or, and maybe my siblings, maybe not, but it is sort of like awkward, you know? It's like, it's a weird feeling, isn't it?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And I don't know how much I need that to change in this lifetime. But wouldn't it be more comfortable if those sorts of things were just normalized and you didn't get a body sensation of embarrassment or awkwardness.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Right.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And, yes. Look how pretty her breasts are. I dunno.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Pausing the video, and having
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right, right.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, not necessarily a sexual connect with your parents. It's like my parents threw on an animated video that I still kind of remember to give my brother and I the information about the birds and the bees
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Oh, really?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:And don't remember there ever being any kind of deeper talk about what it meant relationally and emotionally or what kind a person I should, maybe wait for or look for if as I'm coming into adolescence and having all of these feelings. And it was as though my parents didn't want to acknowledge that, I was a sexual being and that yes, I was touching myself and then yes, I was dating. You know, so it starts, for me in the home, I didn't have religious conditioning directly. Was indirect from my parents who both abandoned their religion and raised my brother and I without any religion. But I'm sure that there was residual, but I didn't really hear a lot about what it meant spiritually or to God. It was just this sense of sex being something that was like a secret kind of dirty pleasure. And I also remember being at school. I think I was in middle school or high school and it was like recess and there was this one boy who was running around teasing all the girls. I guess he'd just discovered that girls masturbate. And so he was like teasing everyone. He'd point at a girl and say, oh, I bet you do it like this, and I bet you do it like this. And he turned to me, and said, Oh, Christy, I bet you use all of your fingers.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Wow.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Wow.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Wow. He had a wonderful imagination. I mean.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:It was like, well, I guess I've tried different fingers. Is that wrong?
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Right, right.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Wow. Wow I mean.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Points to the cultural infusion of shame, like even beyond religion. I think, because religion is so infused into our culture that,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right, right.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:it just transfuses over.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:That's interesting because Charles and Christy, you guys have a significant age difference. And so I imagine like you A got a conversation or at least an animation Christy, of some... charles, did you get, did your parents say anything to you about sex and coming of age?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When I was about 15, my mom said, if you want to know anything about sex, or maybe she said doing it.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Okay.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:There's an encyclopedia that had one chapter about sex. Basically pictures,and that was my, and don't talk about it.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:That was Sex Ed.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Christy had her bedroom that was sanctioned to do that,when she was caught touching herself. The house was a guilt zone. And I had more of a Catholic upbringing. And they could get off on Saturday night and do confession and be absolved of all guilt and all shame or fear of going the hell. As long as you told the priest. And they didn't do that in the Episcopal church, they didn't have confession. You did a little prayer and said that was supposed to do right to heaven.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And I'm curious how both of your parents showed affection towards one another. If they were demonstrative, if they were loving towards each other, if there was a sense of sensuality between them?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Not in my family.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Not in your family.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:No, I think my father was greatly conditioned by his Scottish very proper mother. My grandmother, who I don't think ever had sex, she was always old, she made one statement that was fed to me by my sister. My sister had just gotten pregnant with her second child, and grandma said to Rosemary, Rosemary, you got to tell him to get off the train before it reaches London.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:You have to get off the train before it reaches london.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:That edging in Scottish.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah. Pull out. Pull out. Well, well, okay. Well that's not such bad advice, I guess, from grandma. Okay.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:The star of my sexual life in my teen years was a street gang leader, Johnny Pattinella.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:That's right, johnny.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:The only guy that even got laid in the 20 or so guys in my street gang.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Oh, so he knew everything. He was your
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, he did was say things like"Chucky, you got to fuck deep."
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Go-to educator.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Oh dear.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:If you get tired of the pussy, you fuck em in the ass.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Oh wow. At least someone was talking about fucking in the ass.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, and I did not question that.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:And so when did it, I'm curious, Charles, like when did things like switch for you and awaken for you? I mean, you came from such a completely different upbringing to where you are now.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Street King in the Bronx in the fifties and sixties.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:A jewish girl with wonderful breasts who decided she loved me. And then I wasn't really a hood, I was just pretending real good to be a hood, and that I should go on to college. That was the first step. And then I got into yoga.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:1966, I found a book on the subway.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:How old were you?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I was 17
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Okay.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:And I started yoga classes right after that. And Tantra was always hidden. Sex was taught. This is precious energy. Don't waste it. Be celibate, Hmm. Which really means don't waste your vital essence. Yeah. Tantra said, it's vital essence. There are ways to build it and circulate it, and it's creative energy that can awaken all of your energy. And that was kind of captivating. I started feeling energy early on. And when I got my first tantra book, maybe three years later, I was, I got it in the mail and a plain brown wrapper. That's how they ship things. No, Amazon. And it was called Tantra, the Yoga of Sex by Omar Garrison. I got it four days before I went off to the Army for basic training.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Wow. Where did you order the book?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:It was
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Where did find the book?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:the back of a comic book magazine It was in the hidden area.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Random. That's amazing.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah. Oh, it's random that he found the yoga book on the subway, right?
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I know. I mean
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah, totally.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I think that is such a testament
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Kismet.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:to all of our paths. Anyone who's sort of on this path, Yeah. And leading and teaching and guiding, it's like it comes to you in interesting way.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You don't know the value of it when you get it.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When I walked over in the subway car, because someone had left the book on the other end of the car and there was no one else there, my thought was maybe it's porn.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:yeah. Right, right. You went, your eros
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:then
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:took you
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I read it from Brooklyn to the Bronx coming home from college at night. I read this book and I said, this is a amazing, I'm going to try it. And I opened to a random page and I did a bow position. Where you reach back and hold your legs behind you and lift. And I pulled my back out.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Oh shoot.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I had to see a chiropractor and he started talking about stretching.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Uhhuh
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:So I found,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Did it deter you? That first injury didn't deter you from going back and continuing to give it a try?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:No, it confirmed what they said. We build up stiffness. We're usually flexible as babies, we can do the baby pose and everything.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Bow, Bow baby and between.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:We build up blocks muscularly in our fascia in our energy body especially. We build up blocks and they either continue to get more blocked as we age, or if you're doing something such as Laya yoga, metaphysical Hatha yoga, it removes those blocks each month, each year that you practice, you watch yourself grow younger. Because stiffness is the major characteristic of age.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Absolutely. Those meridians get clogged and stagnated.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You can't be great lover if you're not flexible.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Right, right.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Certainly limited.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Do you still have that book Charles?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I still have that book. I have.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:You do.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Wow. That's great. Christy,
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Christy, yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:What was your modeling between your parents regarding a affection and sexuality and love?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I remember my parents hugging, I remember my parents like peck kissing and maybe sometimes, my dad would wrap his arms around my mom and like give her a little bit more affection. I don't remember any illusions to their sex life. Any kind of references to that. I do remember as a child, kind of, or a young person, you know, being up at night and like, not hearing them actually doing it, but like, I remember walking by my parents' room to go downstairs and I heard my dad say something to my mom, like, hey, do you want to do it? Like, do you know, is this a good time? Or something like that. Like, oh, that's, this is not the right time to be near my parents' bedroom, you know?
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:So, but it turns out my parents were actually hiding from me some pretty out there, you know, proclivities. And I'm not going to go too much into it because I don't want to invade their privacy, but my parents were a little bit more explored you know, yeah, they explored a little
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:of the box.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:bit more sexually than I knew at the time. Yeah. So there was affection in my for sure.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:And then at what point for you, like did you start to just feel your own sexuality in your body and start to understand that there was more to it than what you'd been led to believe as a child?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, I feel that the feeling that there was more to it, was just kind of innate for me. It's a sex sexual energy moving through my body was always a very powerful experience and I was an adolescent and a teenager and to the point where, so my first boyfriend that I lost my virginity to, I was not his first and his first girlfriend had made him wait like over a year before having sex. And I met him and we were hanging out for a few months and I was like, I'm ready, like let's do this. And he was like, wait, are you sure? Are you supposed to make me wait? And I was like, no, I want it. You know? And so, I was really looking for something and you know, when I got to college, I have a lot of partners. I just wanted to know what it felt like with different people. And then for a brief period of time, I actually danced in strip clips and you know, explored expressing myself in that way and connecting with other people. And that's when I really started to to recognize that unconsciousness, that there is a real dark underbelly to, you know, when sexuality is repressed and it's only let out in these very in the places where the shame is allowed, but the lights are still off.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Compartmentalized spaces.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah, it's like. Here's the place that if you're a man, you can come and you can take a deep breath and be like, oh, thank God, naked women and nobody's going to make me feel bad about it. Right? But it's still seen as something that is you know, a baser sort of urge and the energy in those places. Over time, I found that I couldn't sustain being in those environments over time because I would just, I would become so bitter and so jaded. And I would just really, it turned my outlook on men, it really plummeted from spending time in those spaces. So then there was a going and a 180 that I did where I found yoga. I found yoga around the age of 20, and I started practicing and I got all some of the same conditioning and teaching that Charles did early on. His yoga path was that this sexual energy is meant to be conserved. That when we have too much desire, that is something that keeps us from God and it keeps us from our enlightenment. And so in my early twenties, I kind of slowed down on exploring sexually and I went deep into my yoga path and I wanted to conserve this energy. And I did date some men who were very yogic, very spiritual, very afraid of their sexual energy. So that led to several years where it was like, well, gosh, like I don't really want one or the other.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Don't really want to either be a sexual person and then, maybe be in this seedy underbelly or be a spiritual person, but then have this real huge divide between this part of me that can make me feel so alive. So, you know, I wrestled with that for some years actually. And then finally it was right before I met Charles that it was just like, you know what? It's time for these two parts of me to merge and to blend and to come together. And I'd known that there was this thing out there for a while, but most of the yoga that I had been around, it wasn't included. Nobody talked about that. Nobody taught that. About six months before I met Charles, I really got clear it's time for me to integrate my sexuality and my spirituality. It's time for me to explore this Tantra thing. And so I took some steps in that direction and the next thing I knew, I met this guy.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Your clarity magnetized him to you.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Absolutely I never could have imagined before he showed up in my life. I couldn't ever imagined there was a being such as a Charles on the planet. And then once I met him, encountered his work and lived with him.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:of a kind for sure.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yes
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Charles you've really, you've done so much to contribute to the experience of sexual healing embodies through all the students that you've taught over these many decades. I'm wondering if you could say a little bit about the Chakras and what had their effect on how we store energy, whether that's repressed energy or memories of being neglected as a kid, or sexual abuse. These things have to do with sheer, sorry, fear and shame and guilt. Can you say a little bit about how someone can work somatically with the Chakras and their tissues to sort of relieve themselves from the pain of the past?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah, we're led to believe that the psyche lives in the brain and consciousness lives in the brain. The Eastern understanding, my understanding that I share, is that each of the chakra regions, the third eye, which goes back through the pituitary and penal glands all the way to the back of the brain where the most pure consciousness lives. Uncolored by past or present. And we have to get masterful at touching areas that have nerve endings and waking them up so they're firing so that they can go up the various neuro pathways to the brain, to the limbic system. And then the limbic system, like a computer, opens up all of the files in the brain that have to do with this subject pleasure is happening. Guilt, fear, shame. You got a room in your psyche where you store all those memories. And when there's trauma, it's big imprint and it often dominates how the message goes from the brain, from those rooms down, completing a neural circuit with the genitals so they're feeling more so that they're coming alive, so that the past, which is often painful and confusing to go through, we stop connecting to that. We stop filtering our and physical experiences of pleasure and arousal through these rooms. There are other rooms where, yeah, there's possible ecstasy here. This could be love but these new rooms, these new places in the brain, pure consciousness, getting imprinted with moments, hours, a relationship worth of being pleasured in these new ways, having experience, and those parts of the brain become dominant. Present and the future, bright, not colored by a past that was a, it's got trauma, it's got conditioning, it's got guilt, fear, shame. It's the biggest sex organ is the brain, but the brain is in each chakra, so we don't just touch the second chakra. The genitals, yes, we get masterful at pleasing that and causing arousal to lengthen and orgasmic movement of energy upwards. A common experience in love making. So touch on those Chakras, connecting the second chakra with those other Chakras. Let's say I'm doing Sacred Spot with one hand and my other hand is on the front of the body, stimulating the vagus nerve, completing a circuit between them. So that passion and love can be one, or passion and power can be connected.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:When you say the vagus nerve,
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:and it's when all the batteries
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:where, what are you touching? Just so that people don't know a reference of what you mean when you say touching the vagus nerve. You're touching the genitalia?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well it runs up the front of the body. It certainly includes the breast, but it also includes the entry points here on both sides that go into the cranium and connect to the brain and can cause an orgasm simply from stimulating the vagus nerve, the front of the body. And every now and then you run into a woman or a man who has energetic rushes from stimulation to the nipples or touching the Chakras. The naval can be very sensuous, but it can also have a lot of stuff.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right,
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Stuff having to do about that person's mother
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Mm-hmm.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Psychically. We're still connected from her naval
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:to our naval.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right, that psychic umbilical cord.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah. Yeah. So we work the neck and throat, we run energy mudras into the brain. We teach a dozen different mudras to run a current through parts of the brain or connect one part of the brain with another part of the brain. We have those connections, but they already, they aren't always connections that are good for us. The amygdala, the worry part of the brain, that's its job and worry sometimes is for good reason. They just discovered three years ago, connects to the memory part of the brain, the hippocampus. There's a circuit, I have a fear. Hey, hippocampus, why should I be afraid? And hippocampus say, well, this happened and this happened, you should be afraid. And it sends a circuit back and it's a never ending circuit of mind, screwing ourselves.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And so.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:validation to worry. Worry doesn't serve us.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And, what are you doing
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:other than
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:to affect that circuit? How can you, if that circuit goes on autopilot, right, and it runs that worry, something gets triggered and that same worry repeats itself. Is there a way to bring that sort of present time love to help reroute that circuit to something that might be different? Like instead of worried, let's replace this with an experience of love or belonging or comfort or excitement. Is there a way to plug out of that loop and plug a new loop in?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Mudras are finger, hand, or body positions of Tantra that greatly influence energy. So if your partner is just afraid, worried, anxiety, I don't know why, I'm afraid it's likely the hippocampus is involved. Maybe not remembering the trauma or the conditioning or the guilt room, but still influencing the circuit. So if I would want to, the amygdala usually is firing on one side to the hippocampus can be either side. So you have to go, okay, the hippocampus is run amok. Let me bring it into ballance. Let me interrupt the normal circuit that goes right back to here. Let me hold the amygdala. Two thumbs. And let me bring my hands around to the back of the brain and run a circuit from the finger to the amygdala interrupting its current flow. We call it Tantric rewiring.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Cool. And for those of you who
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:You can do that on a partner while they are doing
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You ask the partner to do it while you are doing the stimulation.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Okay. And just.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:this on themselves
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When you're sitting, when the woman sits at stride you she completes a circuit by bringing her feet together and pressing her Chakras against yours. But your hands are free and you can still reach around and the back of her brain amygdalas. And we learn about energy current that the fingers have current, which have charged positive or negative, or in the case of the thumbs neutral current. And we play with energy running current through.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:So this could be really useful for women or for anyone, women, men, anyone in between who, who has a history of breakups, right? And you just start to get jaded after a while. Like, oh, I just, another one bites the dust, another one by, am I ever going to find the one? And you're just going down that path and you're taking this sort of like jaded experience, this fear from previous experiences into the next relationship. You're kind of setting yourself up for failure in that way. So this would be a good way to break that circuitry and start to create a different, like an upward spiral in who you're magnetizing and who you're getting into relationships with, and how you're navigating them as well, without fear. Love that.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When, for instance, you say an affirmation
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Mm-hmm.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:With your fingers doing a Mudra. Here and around the lips, you're literally grabbing a hold of the two sides of the brain. Emotional, logic opposed to one another and you're bringing them into balance. You are blocking out the external world, not hearing, not seeing, not smelling, not seeing. You're inside. And when you taking a breath and you hold that mudra and you repeat in your very own mind, the universe is now sending me a man worthy of my love. And you can spell it out in a couple of sentences, but always the universe is aligning itself with my intentions. Because otherwise it's an un unconscious attraction. We attract those men. That's the reason why do I always get the same kind of man, is cause that's your vibration that you're attracting. But the brain is powerful.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Sure.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:And positive imprints, it's like turning on a light in a really dark room. Darkness starts to fade, and then you turn on more light and then the room is not dark anymore. It's space. It's spacious, it's consciousness, and that's where love waits for you to join with you in the experience. the balanced brain comes into the heart and also into the genitals consciousness, love and passion are uniting, and then it's not sex anymore, then it's this Tantric thing called sexual love.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Mm-hmm.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You can have a lot of sex and not be conscious and only be firing in guilt places and shame places. And
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Or have a lot of sex and not be connected to love. I love that it's like a beautiful trinity of energy coming together to elevate sexuality. And before we move deeper into that, you know, there are some people who are listening to this show and they won't be watching it, and so I'd love for you to describe what you were doing when you were holding that brain mudra. Can you describe where you had the fingers for those who are listening versus watching?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I I can do that, but I would say if you go to our YouTube channel, it's there being taught. And there's a whole practice period in one of our video programs they can download. The thumbs are pressing into the holes of the ear. The block out sounds pretty fully. The index finger connected to the heart chakra are on the eyeballs with a medium pressure, not the third eye through the soft tissue that goes right through the visual cortex to the back of the brain. Closing off smell. I don't want to, the external world smells to keep me away from internalizing my focus. It's called Pracha Hora, and then closing off the lips with the pinky and the ring finger. So now the current positive right hand energy is going out, the fingers being pulled into the brain by the left hand's. Negative charge, not good and bad, positive and negative like sides of the battery. And you're running a current from the fingers, it always goes to the neutral current. It's the power of the thumbs mix with anything. And you're connecting you're in the cathedral of your mind without sound. And when the sound, it could be a mantra in your mind or out loud, or it could be an affirmation. Affirmations are many times more powerful when you're in the center of your brain and the brain is balanced because you get it on the feeling level as well as the, you get the picture as well as the words that describe the picture.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:That's beautiful. I think that there's kind of gives you a view into what some of the more esoteric practices of Tantra can look like. When you start to go into and experience the reality of energy, that energy can be felt, that it can be transmitted. That you can not only increase your own body's feeling and ability to run energy, but that, that skill can then be taken to send energy to another body. Can you say a little bit about energy transmission Charles to from one person to another person, especially regard in sexuality.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I want Christy to answer this and just describe a practice that we do most nights when we get into bed. We don't know what the future is, as they're going to be touching, as they're going to be like, it's to connect our two energies, which sometimes during the day, different people doing different things. It's like the guitar that's at a, we're not in tune with each other. And so what do we do?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, we do the harmonization of moods and energies. And you know, this is a really tangible way to experience the power of, you know, connection to shift our energetic state. Basically. It's not exactly the transmission of energy with our hands, but it's something that you can feel where we'll come and bring our bodies together in bed and our Chakras aligned, and we will start by harmonizing our breathing. We'll focus on a chakra, the same chakra at the same time, and we'll take several breaths in with a gentle hold. And then slowly out with a gentle pause. And we'll do that a few times at each chakra. And then often unless we're just super sleepy, we'll also do some rounds where we reciprocate our breath, where one is breathing out while the other is breathing in, and do several rounds of that. And it's a beautiful way to just take two separate people as he was. Charles was just saying, you're living your lives and you're doing different activities, and so you are tuned to your own experience and the other is tuned to their own experience. Sometimes when you come and bring those two different tunings together, they have a repulsion. There's just something that's a little bit misaligned, but when we do the breath like this, it helps to bring our tuning, into harmony. So we feel harmonized and we melt into this state of connection. And from there, anything that we do from that state of being deeply, energetically connected, it just feels more powerful, more potent, more real. We're right here, right now with each other. We're present. And it's really not so much anymore about two bodies trying to get something from one another as it really is two points of consciousness, having an interaction, an exchange of some sort.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You gradually bring her from the stillness of breathing to embody her, to bring her into her body. And that involves touching the different Chakras and touching them in different ways. There's still touch. There's caress, which has endless variety. When you're touching your partner, there's practices of squeezing. There's tapping, what did I leave out?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:A scratch.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Oh, the creative use of your nails, which are living energy that we can actually watch, grow over a short period. And you vary the pressure. You vary the speed you stay with stillness. Now Christy's in her body and unconsciously, maybe she's starting to caress me back. So we've gradually gone in the direction of, do we want to go all the way to Sacred Union? It's late, got to get up in the morning, a little sacred union for a little while. Five minutes. Is better than not connecting because Tantra is practices that you actually practice. You practice the art of love and you especially grow when you're shut down to love and your partner wants to love you. And no, I don't feel like loving, I got a headache, I'll say, or I'm having my period, or I'm premenstrual perimenstrual. There are reasons, but five minutes, let's connect a little deeper.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I mean,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:imagine if all couples around the world were doing this every night together. It would be such a different way of waking up together, a different way of co-parenting together. A different way of
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Coming back from a fight.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:together. Different way of fighting
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:future.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:together. Yeah,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Our future. Change is happening.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:It is, yes.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:There are more of us connecting consciously at this time in the planet's
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Than ever, before.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:ever, information is available and out there and on the internet and free. And your friends, the ones that are smiling, they maybe got it but they haven't shared it because of their own. We don't want you thinking of us that way but we really love making love with each other. That will become easier in the future. The ones that don't make love and don't practice love will be the minority.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:I think what this also is demonstrating that maybe part of the byproduct of having a practice like this conscious cuddle where you're being intentional you're having awareness that you're, you've been separate and now you're doing something intentional that gets your breath rhythmically connected, which can only facilitate better attunement to each other. So like the, having a conscious practice that drops you into attunement makes you more sensitive to your partner's needs to their feelings, to their thoughts, to their responses in their body. they opening with their breath? Are they closing and shut down? Can you bring awareness and sensitivity through attunement to really know how to be more skillful at harmony and at love? I think having practices that are non-sexual. But are connected to, oh, there's my doggy, but that are connected to a practice of intentional loving. And it's like, it's like it drops deposits. And I think the other thing that I know just from learning and teaching with you, Charles, is that the Chakras have a relationship to each other. If you're in relationship, your Chakras know the other person. And so even if you're coming back from a fight and you're feeling shut down towards each other, if you cannot talk and come into a deeper sense of vulnerability and be there in your compassion, self-compassion and compassion for your partner, your chakra's relationship to each other will start to vibrate and attune and will help you come back home. And I think one of the things I would love the audience to know, something that I have taken away into every relationship since my relationship with Charles, is the quest, challenge. How quickly can you come back to love? When you found yourself separate from it, and we become separate. When we are depressed, we become separate. When we feel anxious, we become separate when we are in a frustrating cycle in our relationship, and so when you challenge yourself to go, what do I need to come back to love when I'm separate from it, what a powerful conscious choice
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:To, to show up for yourself, number one, and then to have that then show up for relationship. Any, any words of wisdom from you, Christy, or from Charles, regarding this idea of coming back love faster and faster?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah. Nobody's to blame. And you both have a part of it. So rather than discussing it or fighting about it, you did this. No, I didn't do this. I said that. No, because that can just get worse. You don't threaten the partner. You say, I think I'm out of tune with you. Can we do a practice? Let's take it into our bodies, take it into our breath. And while we're doing the breathing, we're imagining part of the advanced practice when we exhale that the energy goes from our core out the front of our chakra. And when we breathe in, we're like a sponge. I open, I take you into the chakra where I'm breathing. So that gets you out of the pattern of relationship because every relationship carries with it or builds up a room in our psyche of relationship. And it's usually older than this relationship. It has to do with past relationships and mom and dad models. So if I can own that, no, we don't have to agree on everything. We're different. We're going to have disagreements. And this disagreement has triggered my stuff. And I've responded in a way that triggers her stuff, which triggers her to respond to my stuff back at my stuff, which takes us deeper and deeper into the shit of our psyche. But once we're in it, that's where we can do a practice. Let me download this, let me own it. Let me feel it. Let me be observed and let me take breaths and sound the release of it. Because the power of breath joint to sound is incredibly powerful to help us go from this to ah, where the energy flows. Now connection can happen because I'm not closed now.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:There's a certain level of vulnerability that has to be embraced when doing this.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well absolutely. And you know, I agree with you Leah, that this is one of the great gifts of actually being in relationship with Charles is this turnaround and the willingness to remember, what would I re- do I want to be right, or do I want to be in love? Do I really like this state of being angsty and having my mind remind me of all of the things that I think this person has done wrong? Or do I want to be in love? I want to be in love. So once you recognize that, then the practice does become as you said, like, how quickly can I turn this around? And so what I find for myself is that, Sometimes it does take me a little bit of self-regulation. First, have go into my inner space and ask myself that question. Do I want to be here or do I want to be in love? And then I need to spend a little bit of time with myself getting to the place where when I come to him, I'm actually that many steps closer to the space of love. Before then we try to do the co-regulating. And it is such a key to not try to solve the problem that moment. Meaning like the discussion and the issue that came up. Because what I've found between us is that when we are willing to come back to love and come back to our practice and prioritize our harmony, this, the whatever we were identifying as a problem, it might not get solved immediately, but later there will be a more natural resolution that happens in the space of love. Versus in the space of trying to hash it out and like that is like such a huge revelation too. It has been for me in relationship to realize that when I come back to love and I let go of the struggle, whatever I was struggling with actually becomes resolved later by the flow of love because I've allowed it again.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And, there's something about I think you used a good word. It's like when we're flooded, right? It's really hard to be, you can't listen once your heart rate goes up. I can't remember the exact measurement. Once your heart rate starts to rev because you're triggered or you're flooded, you can't listen. You can't reason, you're completely stuck in your own story about how something is upsetting you. And so to be able to have a go-to practice that two people agree to, when we are upset, when we're flooded, let's not talk. Let's get our bodies that know each other. When our, especially when our minds are in disconnect just allow the breath, the power of a meditative breath to center us to come back. And then once your heart has settled down, that revving of the heart rate chills out a little bit. Your capacity to then listen and try to understand why whatever is upsetting is important to your partner, how it upsets their heart. You're coming from a place of much more compassion to want to understand your lover. Because there's something wonderful about feeling understood when someone really wants to know. Wow, this really upset you. That matters to me because you matter to me and this is where, and then added communication skillsets are necessary in order to continue to be really good at conscious loving. It takes a lot of things. Energy, awareness, good communication, a willingness to get off it and not create a victim perpetrator dynamic that, sets us apart. What is something, you both mentioned the conscious cuddle harmonization of moods and energies. Is there anything else that's a daily practice for the two of you that kind of keeps your relationship in good shape?
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You One of my favorite things that Charles teaches that he does every day, multiple times a day, is a simple practice called Magic Moment. And it's just us moving through our day and like stepping into this moment that's like particularly joyful, or there's laughter or there's beauty in it and grabbing a hold of it and looking into each other's eyes deeply and actually inhabiting that moment together, sharing that moment together. And it just punctuates the day with these juicy, morsels of love and connection. I think it's so simple and it's so profound and powerful and it really creates this thread of romance through our connection throughout the day. And I would also say we kiss a lot
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Oh yeah.
Christy Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:We don't spare kisses.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah. I love that.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Don't skimp on the kisses. Kisses go such a long way.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:We pause during the video.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Pause for a kiss.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:We've been disconnected and out there on the television.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Aw. Okay. Everyone take a pause, and if you're watching this with a partner, go ahead And kiss them.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:You may now kiss the partner. Matthew. Aw, I love that. You know what else is powerful about that? Just from my studies with positive psychology, is that it takes four positive experiences to knock out a negative memory. Because our brain is hardwired to remember negative stuff. It must just be a trip wire for our survival. But that's why, like being intentional about positive magic moments can be so effective when you're making multiple daily deposits.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:something that is intentional, that is positive, that is loving, that connects you to the present moment, is again, it comes back to the brain, it comes back to like giving ourselves nourishment.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Mm-hmm.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Connection. And so how would somebody who's not in partnership do something for themselves that kind of continues to nourish them and propels them in their own loving beingness?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Well, it's what Masters throughout history have shared. Quiet the mind, bring the two hemispheres of the mind into balance and dynamic expansion. And there are solo practices. We teach them in many of our courses called Laya Yoga, which work with the Chakras, which work with the breathing, which work with your mind, which work with gentle stretching. That has to do about stimulating a chakra. Taking your focus mind, putting it on the chakra, taking your focus mind, where am I feeling this tightness, this blocked energy. Or if I were to go a little deeper into the stretch this pain and hold it in a position where I can send love to it, instead of hating my pain, let me breathe in and own. Here's my tight back, and then inwardly as I exhale, relax everywhere where I'm feeling my cancer surgery.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Mm-hmm.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Or being 75 years old owning that. But sending my love to it rather than hating that area. It was such a big aha when I had cancer and I had pain everywhere in my body. Even the pain pills weren't helping and I just was sending so much hate. To my body, to the cancer, to the pain, and I got it. Wait a minute, that's not what this needs. It's calling. You feel me? I need your love. I need your attention. Feed me your breathing and visualize. Visualize the darkness of the cancer being imprinted with light. So not fighting pain, but owning it. There it is. Can I do something to lessen it? And the breathing, the concentration, and the ability to feel this so you can start to do this. And open feels so much better than closed. Where energy is blocked. It's painful or dysfunctional or diseased, where energy moves, orgasm is an example and movement. Whoa, that's a nice.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Laughing.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When I got into bed last night, Christy said, I want to give you a little massage. And I watched myself. I wasn't even aware of how tight I was and I watched it just release from love and her and slowing down and going into receiver. Because I'm very much a doer.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:And you're really speaking to healing yourself on a somatic level. Like instead of going, getting away from the pain and resisting and trying, there's always something that we want to resist and move away from, but that's the exact thing that is calling us to pay more attention to it. To the closer to it.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Physical brings you into contact with the energetic, which links up, where is the pain? What spinal section? Is it the lumbar? Is it sacral? I'm feeling that area now. Let me send love to the chakra. Let me send an instruction as I breathe out, open, awaken, heal cuz that's using these practices, the positions of hatha yoga, but using all of your mind and all of your breath and tools of the mind, including energetic ones like yantra which are so beautiful.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:You know, I want to
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Next level.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:speak to you guys. Were talking about these magic moments and the kisses that get infused throughout the day. And not a lot of couples don't spend all day together, right? They go off to work, they have many, many hours apart, which, is why connecting when they come back from that separateness back together. But what are some tips or tricks or tools that you would have for those couples?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:When someone comes home to the other and you don't remember, this is a potential magic moment. Let me greet them, let me put this on hold and let me greet them consciously with love and take a couple of breaths. Even they're still in the tension and the drive. If I do the breathing and send the energy out in a couple of moments, a minute to breaths, the person feels welcome and valued. I don't say, now come to bed. I say, now do what you gotta do from there.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:As soon as we get home and we just want to be alone.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Don't want me now. I just got to do,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right,
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:have you got a minute? Yeah. How can you say no to a minute of welcome?
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:right.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:I think so many of us are models of this.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Like the dog. The dog is right there, ready to greet you when you come home. Hey man, let's connect.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Yeah. Oxytocin everywhere. When you come home,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:of us were modeled that you know, that, oh, you're home. Oh, okay, good. Now you know, here's your to-do list. Like, it's just, it's, yeah. Exactly. Right. Right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:You were away doing your work and all of this happened.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Right, right.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:It creates for anxiety coming back together instead of like excitement coming back together.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, just imagine listeners, what you could do to excite your partner on their way home, so that they're coming home not just to relax from a long day, but that they're excited to be with you and you're excited to be with them. Because we can use mindfulness and intention, we can use the power of our mind to bring awareness to this to create anticipation so that we look forward to the reuniting of our loved one, and to not take it for granted, because I think it's so easy to take our partners for granted. I know I'm certainly guilty of that, and it's something to just keep waking up to.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:And, you know, I think we've lost our sense of awe in general. If you can also just open your mind and your eyes to moments of awe throughout the day, like, wow, those wildflowers over there, God, they're gorgeous. Snap a quick photo and send it to your sweetie. You
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:little like, or just thinking about you or a simple heart emoji goes Yes. a long way. Yeah.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Is what those words mean?
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yeah. A little deposit, little heart.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Totally, deposit into the So, bank account.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:I know, Charles, I know you have a really generous gift for our audience. Will you tell a little bit about The Intimacy Meditation for Two and The Secrets to Female Sexual Ecstasy Video Class?
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I will artofconsciousloving.com will get you a downloadable copy of our all time best selling video on Tantra secrets. Secrets of Female Sexual, Ecstasy. What every man should know. And we had students and myself and Caroline demonstrating starting gentle. And then building up. And there's about a 22 minute segment on Sacred Spot Massage where you see the connection, you hear the breathing and the sound, and you see what a woman looks like when she's in, not just high arousal, but sexual bliss. Most people miss the whole stage of arousal because they're trying to get to the end of the journey orgasm. And it's during arousal, it's various levels that we can absorb the most energy and open the most blocks. So we seize that moment. Let me feel what I'm feeling and suck it up to my brain. I'm tingling, I'm vibrating. It feels good. Let me give my brain a bath of that and give it a sound. That's one of my favorite practices. And when you do that in arousal, it's very sexy and it connects the brain with the genitals through the neural pathways. Much easier, more current, but the sound on the exhalation deepens the arousal. Or if you do the technique just as you're coming into orgasm, I'm coming. You take your slowest, deepest breath. I'm feeling coming. What is that to you? There's that feeling. Okay. Let me feel it and it to my brain and then immediately make a sound. The exhalation. Can any sound that is relevant to what you're feeling and choose a vowel and sound it.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Oh yeah. yeah.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Yes. And I can say I think all three women on this in this interview right now can testify that this technique is very efficacious. Let me tell you, it really, really, really works. It supersizes every orgasm from here out. Yes.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:As long as you are sounding, you don't drop from the peak, I'm coming down the mountain down. Quick drop. You stay on a high level of arousal and then you're out of breath. Ah, you're still tingling. You're still vibrating. What if I were to feel down there and suck up that feeling to my brain? There's the second wave or the second orgasm, and we can have multiple, multiple breaths of orgasms. So we settle for five seconds. Average normal. We do all this stuff and fight about the energy and for five seconds of bliss. Now, if you could get a 600% gain on doing a technique.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Why
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:I
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:wouldn't you do it? So you've got two incredible tutorial video tutorials that Charles is giving away as his gift to you. And if you really like this interview, you got to go check out episode number eight of the Sex Reimagined podcast because it's one of the most popular episodes of the show so far, and you'll really, really enjoy more of Charles's wisdom. Thank you so much to the two of you for being here. And I think one thing that's really cool is Charles Muir's, former wife, Caroline Muir, who's featured on that Secrets to Female Sexual Ecstasy video is also a part of this summit series. And one of the things that Charles has always exemplified is Happily Ever After, even after the breakup of a relationship. And so we look forward to you getting to meet Queenie and and thank you so much, Christy. It's been so fun to have you on here representing this beautiful work.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:It was nice to see you guys together.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:And you can see Charles and Christy they've got weekend seminars all over the country. Mostly in, in California, but also in some places on the East Coast. So be sure to take a look at their calendar. It is one of the best weekend Tantra seminars, hands down,
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:Absolutely.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:and treat yourself to go to. It's so comprehensive, and you'll laugh and you'll deepen, and your heart will be touched, so don't hesitate. They're incredible teachers.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:And we are had scheduled that are just waiting for it to go online. A couple's only vacation eight days instead.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:good.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:right.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Vacation Spa in Mexico. And we're putting together one for singles. Cause many of the students that come to our class are singles. And to have a fun vacation with conscious people that want to explore conscious relationship and do some of the non-sexual practices that are so juicy that you want to get good at. I'm excited by being on vacation and getting paid to do it.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:That's
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:with
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:fantastic. That's going to be
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:So fun.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:on Sourcetantra.Com where they can find that.
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:That's on our schedule already.
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Lots to look forward to. Thank you. All right
Charles Muir | SxR Guest Sexpert:Yeah.
Dr. Willow Brown | SxR co-host:much love, love,
Leah Piper | SxR co-host:Love, love, love, love, love.
Announcer:Now, our favorite part, the dish.
Leah:Mr. and Mrs. Muir, it's time to dish it up. What are you
Willow:Well, there's so much to dish on these two. I mean, just wow, charles Muir is one of the biggest pioneers in the states around Tantra. So, and you have had the pleasure of teaching alongside of him for over 15 years.
Leah:Well, yeah, 20 plus years, Charles and I were a dynamic duo, um,
Willow:know. I actually really love the way you guys teach together. And now Christie's teaching those weekends with him, huh?
Leah:I've handed the baton over to Christy and, uh, she's taking the world by storm and she's, she's such a great teacher. She's really, she's so smart and, um, and I just, I adore who she is. And I'm just so happy that they're both happy and they've been together now. I think they just, I think it's their 10 year anniversary. I
Willow:Oh. I thought it was like five or something.
Leah:No, cause Matt and I, uh, been together for six or seven years and I think they were together for three or four
Willow:They were together first. Okay. Wow.
Leah:yeah, I think they met 2012.
Willow:And they
Leah:Tantrapalooza 2012 is
Willow:That's right. Charles saw her with her hula hoops and her blue hair and it was all
Leah:It was all over.
Willow:Game over.
Leah:Game over. Game on.
Willow:Game on. Old game over, new game on.
Leah:yeah, yeah, yeah.
Willow:Yeah. They're sweet together. Yeah.
Leah:Yeah, so she's, and she's seen him through a lot of things. I mean, really the cancer, um, episode was, was really serious. I mean, we thought we were going to lose him and, um, it's pretty amazing that he pulled through from that. And then, you know, surviving the Santa Cruz fire and then moving up to up north to Sacramento. Well, it'd be really fun to, you know, dish, uh, after having our interview with Caroline, because when I came on the scene, it was, you know, Caroline was still teaching quite a bit with Charles. She handed the baton over to me, and then I handed the baton over to Christy. So it's been kind of a really interesting legacy, this, this era of, um, of just being in the world of Tantra with Charles and all the things that we sort of explored and experienced. I mean, I don't even know how to even start, what to say about like the magnitude of what, who he's been in my life. I mean, I really credit him for so much of my personal somatic healing experiences and overcoming so, um, much distress that I wrestled with in my, in my being. I mean, a lot of, a lot of self esteem issues, self worth issues.
Willow:Yeah. You did a lot of healing in that relationship.
Leah:So much. Um, And, you know, there just comes a time when it's, it's time for your next teacher. It's time for your next relationship. Your It's One chapter ends, so another chapter can begin. And I'm really grateful for that too.
Willow:I'm glad you got all the time that you did teaching with him and you know, you're still, it's still, um, still in the mix. So Yeah. it always will be, you guys will always be family and
Leah:yeah,
Willow:love each other and be there for each other. And it's, I think it's really beautiful. The dynamic that, you know, that you and Matt have with, with them, you guys have dinner with them, I think once a week or something
Leah:yeah, we like to do family Sunday dinners and, you know, not every Sunday,
Willow:They watch your dog, even when you're not out of town. They're
Leah:They love, they love my dog. Charles asked for Chewy sleepovers, you know, when he's just like, I need an animal. Yeah. And Chewy's such a love and Chewy loves Charles. I mean, you want to hear Chewy's like, yeah, Chewy doesn't bark, but when Charles pulls in the driveway, it's like, he's, he's so excited. It's like, he just moans and groans. Papa Meatball is here.
Willow:Oh my God. I love it. Yeah. Well, Charles is those big old healing hands. He's got like the biggest hands and they're just, they're full of Chi. They're full of energy. So I'm, I'm sure any animal would be like, touch me some mo.
Leah:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The, the look of bliss on Chewie's face when he's sitting next to Charles and Charles is petting his head. I mean, I think a lot of women have had that response with Charles.
Willow:Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Leah:so he's still hanging in there 75 and uh, kicking. And it's, it's interesting, you know, to like just Watching how the world changes and so and and people change too, but not all that much, you know It's like he has this Amazing timeless wisdom and sometimes his package is a little old fashioned, you know in terms of you know Parts of the piece, but
Willow:doing it for a long time.
Leah:Yeah,
Willow:Yeah
Leah:I mean he comes from a totally different era Um And you know, you can, some people can get bothered by that. Other people can embrace it and just, you know, call it what it is. It can be charming or it can be frustrating. It's up to you how you want to receive it. But I think being generous with our assumptions and just allowing people to just be who they are. I mean, shit, you know. So interesting how generations change and evolve and our expectations of each other to change and evolve. And, you know, but coming from like, for the first time in my life, you know, when you were the generation, they're like, Oh, those kids these days. And now you're old enough to go, Oh, those
Willow:Oh yeah, I say it when I go to the gym up at UCSC. I'm like, the fucking
Leah:those kids.
Willow:they like won't look in your eyes. I did have a cute young man look in my eyes today. I was like, oh, a cute young man.
Leah:oh, nice. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Look into my eyes. Ha ha ha ha
Willow:I'm
Leah:ha.
Willow:it.
Leah:Oh, good. Good,
Willow:it's fun. Yeah. I really loved, you know, in their interview, how they just, um, exemplified, you know, they are such a, they walk their talk and such an example of what they're talking about. And those magic moments, you know, like, like you can get those magic moments as a single person. Absolutely. You just have to recognize them and ingest them into your nervous system. And it is a lot, I don't know if it's a lot easier, but it does feel easier when somebody else is there and you can do it with them,
Leah:Yeah, where you're
Willow:it with a kiss. It's like, it feels more tangible, but, um, those magic moments are everywhere all the time. And, um, and
Leah:I think as a, as an individual, you know, like, even if I'm in a relationship I owe it to myself to create those intentional magic moments, like smelling the flower, you know, that's, that's outside or like, you know, appreciating the produce that I bought. Look what this tomato is so beautiful. It's a red. Let me smell
Willow:appreciator.
Leah:I really, truly am a bite of ice cream, you know, like I don't need the whole bowl. Give me some three
Willow:just one bite,
Leah:And I'm going to have a magic moment with that coffee ice cream, baby. Um, taking a bath or like shampooing your hair. Like there's, these are the moments of awe, of pleasure, of
Willow:Awakening your senses, you know. And we spent so much time in our prefrontal cortex. And I really loved too, what Charles was bringing in around, like shift, shift the, the structures in your brain, like quiet the amygdala, like start to open up the hippocampus, make that relationship between memory and like, not feeling safe. Like let's shift
Leah:the associations.
Willow:circuitry and create a new circuitry. So it's, we've got these bodies y'all like let's use them. Let's start paying attention to
Leah:be in them.
Willow:Let's use the vehicle that you're in, in a way that is going to work for you. That's what Tantra really is
Leah:that's really what Tantra is all about. It's about being embodied and, and being there for the emotions that run through it and for the pleasure that's available for it and for the life that is streaming in it. I mean, my God, there's something about Feeling alive that is so enlivening. And that is also a fucking mindset, you know, like just jump in. The only one holding you back is you. So
Willow:Yeah.
Leah:badda bing, badda
Willow:got this. You got this. Alright, we'll see you on the other side. Ciao.
Announcer:Thanks for tuning in. This episode was hosted by Tantric Sex Master Coach and Positive Psychology Facilitator, Leah Piper, as well as by Chinese and Functional Medicine Doctor and Taoist Sexology Teacher, Dr. Willow Brown. Don't forget, your comments, likes, subscribes, and suggestions matter. Let's realize this new world together.