Leah & Dr. Willow: How to Touch Someone So They Never Want You to Stop | #184

Most people have never been taught touch as a skill and it's quietly killing the heat in their relationships. In this episode Leah and Dr. Willow break down the five erotic touch modalities that transform an ordinary lover into one your partner never wants to stop being touched by.  Leah & Willow break down how nuanced touch can deepen connection, enhance pleasure, cultivate safety, and why the one move most people skip entirely might be the most powerful thing you can do in bed.

Episode Highlights

• Five modalities of touch: caress, squeeze, scratch, percussion, stillness
• The importance of variety and nuance in touch
• How touch creates safety and deepens intimacy
• Using touch to amplify sexual tension and arousal
• The role of attunement and presence in sensual touch

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Transcript

Announcer 1:02

Welcome to the Sex Reimagined Podcast, where sex is shame-free and pleasure forward. Let's get into the show.

Leah 1:11

Well, this is just one of my, you know, all time favorite topics. I don't think people realize or think about the quality of their touch very often. Yeah. And, and neither do people. They have no

Dr. Willow 1:21

idea,

Leah 1:22

right? We don't,

1:23

I

Dr. Willow 1:23

don't think about it at all.

Five Touch Modalities

Leah 1:24

We don't think of it as a skillset. We don't think of it as a method. But we're gonna break that down for you today because I know if you get to the end of this episode, you are gonna actually see how much value there is in getting some training regarding the quality of your touch. I mean, you know, you wanna capture your partner's attention, you don't want them drifting off.

Dr. Willow 1:46

Definitely

Leah 1:46

not, you know, counting the cobwebs in the corner.

Caress Pressure and Speed

Dr. Willow 1:48

Yeah, definitely not. I mean, it's one of the most important things I think that we could learn when it comes to intimacy. And also it creates this deep sense of safety when somebody knows how to touch you in a way that, um, you can really lean into and rest into. And that sense of safety in your nervous system is what opens you up to all different kinds of. Pleasure and rapture and ecstatic sensations in your skin. I love it when Leah says, um, you know, all these sex experts out there in the field are saying the most important, uh, sexual orgasm or organ in your body is your brain. But she's always like, I think it's your skin. And so, I mean, yeah, skin, brain, they're super important. We gotta get these things on board.

Hand Parts and Variety

Leah 2:37

So to keep it simple, think of these modalities of touch as having five. There's just five, but there's countless permutations to each one. And you wanna think about, you know, the Tantra master has these seven levels of how they touch with these five modalities. And when I say seven levels, what I'm referring to is pressure and speed. So let's just. Bring up our first modality, caress. Everyone knows how to caress, but most people caress in like an up and down, up and down, an up and down form, which to be honest with you, isn't all that interesting. When you caress, you can caress with shapes, you can do spirals and circles and triangles. You can caress with deep pressure or light pressure. So the touch trimester would have seven levels of pressure. You can caress fast or super slow, and the. Tantra master would have seven levels of speed. But for the rest of us, let's just think of these levels in threes. We've got slow, medium, fast, and we've got deep, medium and light pressure.

Dr. Willow 3:52

And what's important to know when, uh, starting to caress and touch your partner is that. Their version of light and your version of light might be very different from one another. So it's really important. I am often saying to people, lighter, softer, less pressure, and they'll like take their hand off, you know, so far, and I'll be like even lighter, even less pressure. So what's really useful and helpful is for me to take my hand onto their skin and just show them what lighter and softer means to me.

Attunement and Learning Touch

Leah 4:28

Such good advice that nonverbal communication is so important because pressure and speed is very, subjective. You know what's, what's light to somebody else is hard to somebody else. Good, good tip. The other thing you wanna think about when you're thinking about touching and there's lots of ways to touch, you can touch with your full body. You can touch with your breath, but in this case, when we think of touching, we think about touching with our hands. So there are four parts to the hand. There's the heel of the hand. There's the palm of the hand, there's the fingertips and there's the back of the hand, and every single one of these different parts of the hand create a different sensation. When we massage someone with the heel of our hand, it can apply a lot more pressure. When we lean our body weight, we can take out a lot of tension with the heel of our hand when we touch someone with the palm and just we can spiral energy out the center of our palm. When we touch someone with our fingertips, the touch can be much lighter, think, tickle, touch, or slight scratches. And then the back of the hand has a different type of texture than the palm of the hand. And then there's all the permutations of combining these different parts of the hand with your touch. So if we just think about Caress, for instance. Think of all the ways you can play with caress using these four different parts of your hand. And now. Think about the different types of pressure you can add to Caress and the different types of speed in combination with these four different parts of the hand, and now you've got a limitless. Variety and variety is so key. Why? Because like we said in the beginning, it captures your partner's attention and our attention has been trained to be terrible in the last 10 years. All of us, we do way too much scrolling and honey, if you cannot capture your lover's attention with variety, you are missing the boat. Sex is, yeah. I'm really concerned about this actually.

Dr. Willow 6:30

I know, I'm too, I agree with you. I mean, I think that, um, you know, touch is a really, it's a lost, it's a loss to art, especially after post COVID. And with the younger generation, I mean, they're really not getting an opportunity to learn. Caress to learn to touch. I often will get, younger, clients coming through and I'm like, okay, let's start with learning how to use your hands, like learning how to attune to somebody else's body through the sensation in your hands. To focus and to attune means to pay attention, right? So placing all of your attention and all of your awareness, right where the place where the palm of your hand or fingertips or back of the hand are connecting with that person's body part, nothing else matters.

Squeezing and Pinching

Leah 7:24

So, so, so true. Attunement is such an incredible and essential key to doing this well. I wanna go back to what you said earlier, because when you think about how are people learning to have sex these days? They get a shitty reproductive class in a middle school, and then they watch porn. And the problem with porn is that it doesn't teach you nuance. And so what we're talking about here is learning how to touch with nuance. I think this is essential to opening up female bodies, yoni owning bodies, because there's a certain amount of sexual tension that we want to be good at, and touch is really key to and amping up that sexual tension. One of the ways that you can do that is, getting close to erogenous zones and kind of tempting i'm gonna get closer. I'm gonna get closer, and then I go away. And then I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna get even more close and even more close, and then I'm gonna go away. And so you can

Dr. Willow 8:22

Anticipation, ah,

Leah 8:23

anticipation all day long. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the anticipation is better than the actual,

Dr. Willow 8:27

it's even better. Yeah, exactly. Well, depending on where you are on the sexual blueprint type.

Leah 8:31

Right? Right. True, true. So then we go to, another modality of touch, which would be squeezing, kneading, compression touch where if you were gonna do a full body, I mean a full handed squeeze, you would use the palm, the heel, and the fingers to squeeze the shoulders, right? Like you could take out the tension and squeeze like a massage kind of touch. Feels so good, kn it feels so good. But squeezing goes even further. If we take a look at like the modalities, right? We're taking a look at how do we create variety. There's the pinching. You know, you can pinch someone and it tells your partner, Hey, meet me right here. It's also different than using the full hand. It's just using the fingertips. And so think about where could pinching be so erotic. You know, sometimes we think of pinching and we think pinching. I don't wanna be pinched.

Dr. Willow 9:25

Yeah, thanks.

Scratching with Nails

Leah 9:26

But there are places to pinch and to grab a handful of something and to squeeze it and kneed it. Open it. So I'll let your imagination run wild. What to pinch and squeeze and open

Dr. Willow 9:42

and need and expand. Yeah. I mean, God, that feels so good. And so, you know, we're gonna go through three more modalities in a moment here, but these first two caress and then kneading. If you intersperse them together, do a little kneading and a little bit of pinchy pinchy here and there, and then go back to Caress and soft in other places of the body. That is going to give, keep someone's attention. They're gonna be present, they're gonna be paying attention. They're gonna be living right where your, their hands are touching your skin, their skin.

Leah 10:18

Hmm. Moving on now we have a whole masterclass on these modalities of touch, and so there's lots of little things that we don't have time to include in this episode, but we wanna get you started. But one of the keys that's happening in the masterclass is to share with you the difference between like therapeutic touch and how to make touch sensual and sexual. How to use it to amp up arousal. So we wanna plug that seed with you, but moving on to the third modality is scratching. The creative use of the nails.

Dr. Willow 10:53

Hmm. I love scratching. I love the, the sensation and the heat and the energy that it brings to the surface of the skin. It's like so exhilarating. And I think a lot of, um, I know for myself, I'll say, I don't know about everyone else out there, but it took me a, a long time to kind of like get into scratching, you know, like I just really, yeah, it was just something that wasn't in my repertoire for, for most of my sexual life. And now I just find it to be so fun and every time that you know I'm scratching or bringing someone else to attention through the nails, like, boy is it such an incredible response that comes through.

Leah 11:37

Well, let's take a look at scratching from the modality of pressure. So if you were at a level one scratch, you wouldn't even be scratching the skin, you would be scratching the hair. And so just imagine the sensation of just scratching the hair of someone's arm or leg, like it's, it's almost like effervescent. Tickle it. Ticklish. It's,

Dr. Willow 12:02

yeah. Yeah, it's like a little tickle.

Leah 12:04

It's a great way to really refine your skillset with pressure. So then. What would a level two scratch be? Well, you're just barely getting to the top of the skin. It still kind of tickles, and then a level three would be like, oh God, no. Now we're getting somewhere. Now I feel satisfied. This, this itch is getting scratched. And then four, it's even more like, oh God, that feels so good. I mean, just imagine a level three and four scratch to your scalp. Like when you're at the hairdressers and they're scratching and massaging the top of your hair as they get the shampoo and conditioner out, it's like a moment of bliss. It feels so good. I love a nice,

Dr. Willow 12:45

I used

Leah 12:45

to

Dr. Willow 12:45

say to my hairdresser, I used to say to her, you should be a professional head massager. And she is like, I am

Leah 12:52

totally. I love a nice scratch down my ribs, down my waist, the length of my waist when it's really long down my hips. Um, yeah, scratching can be great. And then

Dr. Willow 13:04

I like it on this. Soles of my feet.

Leah 13:06

Ooh, y. Good.

Dr. Willow 13:07

That's that. Yeah. It's like ticklish. It's

Percussion Spank Tap Flog

Leah 13:10

good. Maybe, maybe that's not true. Maybe I do like that. Maybe if it's like at a level. Three. Mm-hmm. I don't, wouldn't want scratchy, scratch.'cause So that day it brings us to a level five scratch. Right? Like, that's what keeps me out on my feet. Ooh. It's like five is like exfoliating.

Dr. Willow 13:27

I like the

Leah 13:28

exfoliation. Wow. I won't yuck your yum, honey. No way. Um, six, when we look at the pleasure, the, the pressure scale leaves a mark. So think of like a hickey would leave a mark, right? Mm-hmm. Line, so that's like a level six, right? You know, you can kind of see it when like you scratch really hard

Dr. Willow 13:50

line. Yeah,

Leah 13:51

yeah, yeah. Like the pink goes white wherever you scratched. Um, then we have level seven and we, ooh, wouldn't recommend this except for those who draw are very advanced. The blood draw, draw. Yes. Yes. That's so you kind of think of that as a good, uh, scale for your pressure. Okay. That's scratching.

Dr. Willow 14:13

So we got tickling, we got needling kneading. Mm-hmm. Not needling, but kneading. And then we got scratching. Next up

Leah 14:20

next is one that you probably are not very familiar with or you don't think about it, and that is percussion.

Dr. Willow 14:28

Hmm.

Stillness for Integration

Leah 14:28

So well, and slapping, you're probably maybe a little familiar span with a little bit of slapping. A little spanking. Yeah. So there's some skill when it comes to percussion. When you wanna spank or slap, you wanna cup your hand. By cupping your hand, you're sorry. I don't know if, if you're, you're not watching this and you're listening to it, I don't know how much you can hear me slapping my upper arm, but wherever there's fatty or muscly bits is where you can handle more of a slap. And when you cup your hand, you're gonna create more sound. And sometimes that sound is like more interesting than the actual hit. I kind of like it when something's really loud, but it doesn't sting quite as hard. And there's also different levels of stinging. People love a stinging sensation, and that's because the place in your brain that lights up when there's pleasure is the same place in your brain that lights up when there's pain. And that's why pleasure and pain, um, kind of are delicious when it comes to erotic experiences. So we've got slapping, which is a full palm type of experience of percussion, but then you can tap. With just your fingertips and tapping along the body feels like rain on a tin roof. It's a totally different type of experience, that percussive vibration, you know, tapping some sort of a vibration through the system. Uh, tapping is really great for erogenous zones like the G-spot. And the prostate gland and the clitoris, that thump, thump, thump. when someone are using things like floggers, people love floggers because of the, the thuddy feel of each of, of each hit. It can feel like, a deep massage. It can be very delicious.

Dr. Willow 16:19

Mm-hmm.

Leah 16:19

And big muscle groups especially.

Dr. Willow 16:21

Yeah. It feels so good on the back. It feels super good on the, on the ass. It feels, you know, really good to. To spank and to thump and to use your fingertips like raindrops and to vary all of these things. Use the full palm of your hand, then go to fingertips. Mm-hmm. Um, if you've got something that you're, playing with in the flogging realm or even in the, crop realm, you know, it's just, it can be so much fun to bring. And again, bringing attention to your partner's body, bringing them to their body. It's a great way to get outta your head and into your body.

Leah 16:58

I think the, the next one, I believe is the most important, especially after a percussive experience, be it slapping, uh, tapping or pinching, which is stillness to follow up, one of the movement strokes. With a still touch modality is so important, and I think stillness is actually the most underrated touch modalities, but I think it's the most important. Why is stillness important to you?

Nuance Builds Intimacy

Dr. Willow 17:33

Well, I mean, as a longtime cranial sacral therapist, you know that, you know, I've done so many different kinds of massage, shy massage and TWE massage and all these sort of more vigorous kinds of healing modalities over the years. And every time I'm doing a deep cranial session, which is really much stillness, really just holding your hands very still and listening to the cranial sacral rhythm that's moving through that person's body, that is where all the healing happens. Like that's where all the reset happens. That's where their whole entire skeletal structure drops back into alignment, where their nervous system completely resets. And so. Similarly when I'm in a Tantra session and I've just, you know, ed everything up and their, their capillaries are filled with blood and they've just had all this sensation all over their skin, all over their body, and they're just like really feeling hot and like. awake and alive, and then you just hold and it's like all the energy that you just woke up now gets a chance to run on its own and you just hold it there in stillness. Mm-hmm. While the energy does what it's gonna do. And it's fun to see like. What kind of things reset in those moments? Sometimes emotions come up in those moments. Sometimes laughter, sometimes tears, sometimes um, just the breath starts to deepen a lot more. Or sometimes a sigh will come out, sometimes a scream will come out, you know, so it's really, really cool. Yeah. It's just so cool to see how then the, their body, they also will like sometimes shift their physical body into a place that's so much more delicious and comfortable for them. It's almost like they, something as awakened inside and now nature can take over and bring them to a higher state.

Leah 19:29

Well said. I think through stillness, it allows someone to catch up to the present moment. It allows someone's body and psyche to unite so that they can deeply feel the experience that they're having. I think sometimes we're so in a rush to get something done. Like get it up, get it in, get it off. We're forgetting to feel, and this is where I think nuance is essential. Like nuance often happens in the stillness. Nuance happens in the breath. nuance happens in that integrative moment where you can feel the tension of the moment through the stillness. It's like you need stillness to allow something to build and to unfold. And if all you do is go from one thing to the next thing, the one thing to the next thing, and try this technique and that technique and you kind of confuse and scramble the receiver of it, and you don't let them catch up to their experience. You're missing the boat on something really essential. And I think deeper intimacy, grows and becomes more profound in that space of stillness. When you stop doing all the doing and you allow the experience to be about being, there's something that can only be captured there. It can't be captured anywhere else, and it's magical.

How To Give A Great Hug

Dr. Willow 20:55

Yeah, well it's, you know, similar when you're kissing, you know, when you're, you're making out with somebody and it's like, hmm, all the yum yums and your tongues and your lips, and everything's happening, right? And then all of a sudden you just come to this moment of pause and you just sit there and your lips are just. Pressed together or your mouth is open together or like are touching breath and breathing together and you're just in that and you pause and yeah, that is where the intimacy deepens. You know, of course when you were talking, Leos started thinking like, wow, this is, you know, I always liken everything to the seasons, right? And so this is the winter season, okay. And I always say in the winter season, the stillness, you know. It's like this is the one that everyone misses. Like they might do the fall phase where they clear and let go and get rid of everything, but then they jump right into the spring and they wanna create and build and bring it all back in again. So you know this, this stillness phase, this winter phase is where recalibration happens. That's good. It's where we get to come back to who am I now? Who am I in this beingness, in this true present moment?

Leah 22:09

You know, a great example is hugging the embrace. You know, we, we go and we go to hug someone and it's either like a big tap tap and then you break away really fast. Like, I always, I always watch this, especially with men, and younger guys too. And every once, every once in a while they come around and there's a few younger guys in and it's like a quick, it's almost like a chest bump.

Dr. Willow 22:30

Yeah.

Leah 22:32

No, no, no. Come in here. Full body uhhuh. Just sink in and breathe. Teddy bear hug. Yeah, we come in, we soften. Mm-hmm. We feel each other. Take a deep breath. No patting there. There. You know, it's not grandma's hug, it's a, you know, come to embrace, don't let your hips stick out. It's okay to have your hips. It's not an

Dr. Willow 22:57

A-frame

Leah 22:57

tucked in. Yeah. And you just, it doesn't have to be super long. It doesn't have to be necessarily a big Tantric hug, but allow a present moment and a breath to occur.

Dr. Willow 23:07

Yeah.

Friendly Vs Tantric Embrace

Erotic Touch Beyond Hands

Leah 23:07

Bring someone in. Both people drop, you share a breath or two, you let everything soften and you're like, Hey friend. You know, it's, we're so undertouched, we're so undernourished in this way and are very individualistic world where communities are getting smaller and smaller and so many people don't feel like they are connected to community. And I think the hug is a really important thing to think about. We don't think about it. We don't think about what makes a good hugger. And I can tell you, I just described some things that make a good hugger, slow it down, have a breath, soften your body. Don't be an A-frame. And take somebody in, let them feel you. Have a moment of like soul to soul recognition, like, you matter for just a breath. In someone's embrace, it doesn't mean it's creepy. And the way that you make sure it's not creepy and not slimy is you're not like slobbering over someone and deep breathing in their ear or, or, um, inappropriate groping. You're just taking a breath with somebody and you're allowing your body to soften in that embrace. I think that's really key. I think the other thing is a little bit of a mindset. You know, Teddy bear vibe is a good mindset to have when you're coming to hug someone or Big Brother, big sister. Yeah. Or a mom, dad hug. It feels supportive. Yeah. And compassionate. Yeah. Um, it's, you know, unless it's someone who you wanna be sexy with, right? There is a difference between a sensual, sexy, Tantric hug and just a warm, friendly embrace. What could you articulate about the two?

Dr. Willow 26:37

Well, definitely, first thing I would say is anytime you get a good hug from somebody, you get a little release of oxytocin through your body. Right. That is, um, that's a gift. Yeah. Total valuable thing because your whole nervous system then is flooded in relaxation and connection. Um, and then, yeah, I would say, you know, like sexy vibe, Tantric hug is gonna. It's probably gonna have some sound to it. It's definitely gonna have some deeper breath to it. Mm-hmm. It's definitely gonna have pelvises to pelvises,

27:13

right?

Leah 27:14

You

Dr. Willow 27:14

might, you might

Leah 27:15

press someone's sacrum towards your pelvis.

Dr. Willow 27:18

You might put your hands on the backs of their Chakras. You know, that kind thing. And you just. Maybe there's a little sway and it's gonna be longer, you know?

Leah 27:27

Right.

Dr. Willow 27:27

Um, but it is a really good idea, you know, if

Leah 27:30

you're, you might smell someone's hair neck and the

Dr. Willow 27:33

Yeah. Totally. Inhale. Yeah. And if you're not to that place with somebody, but you'd like to be, then you probably wanna put on a different archetype on at first. You know, you might wanna put on that big brother, big sister archetype first, and just go in, make it safe. Go in for that like. Safety hug, you know?

Leah 27:49

Yeah.

Dr. Willow 27:49

But, but also very present so that when they leave your arms, they're leaving better than when they entered.

Leah 27:58

Really encourage, uh, if you have a good hug with somebody, say, God, you're a good hugger.

Dr. Willow 28:03

Yeah.

Objects, Oils, And Play

Leah 28:04

It's good to let people know, well, that was a really nice hug. I think we need to share that affirmation and give that feedback. you know, I have a memory of a hug that goes down as the best hug of my life. How long ago was it left? A huge impression on me. I was 17 or 18 years old. I was a senior in high school.

Dr. Willow 28:25

Okay? Mm-hmm.

Leah 28:26

And this guy came, I was working at a thrift store and this guy came in, he was a bongo drummer. You might've heard me talk about a bongo drummer in the past about the

Dr. Willow 28:34

bongo drummer.

Leah 28:37

he just, it was like he came in with his big old lumberjack arms and it was like he scooped me up and I just felt like he inhaled me. And it was like, I was the kind of hug I, I melted right into it. It was such a welcome hug.

Dr. Willow 28:56

It was the hug of all

Leah 28:57

hug. I mean, it helped that I was attracted to him too.

Dr. Willow 28:59

Yeah. Chem, if there's chemistry, you know, can't beat it, you know? Mm-hmm. Sometimes chemistry is there and the hug is happening and it all feels good.

Leah 29:10

It all feels good. And, uh, touch, Now touch. When we think about like body to body touch, uh, I love will that you mentioned that the skin is the biggest sex organ in the beginning because if we go beyond the hands, then one of the things that I've really learned to do as a touch or practitioner is to touch the body with my forearms. You know, touch, touch the body by stretching the length of the touch and allowing my heart to do the touching, right? The chest, the pecs, the breasts, the nipples, allowing one's hair to do the touching. You've got this amazing, long, beautiful, silky hair to drape long hair over someone's skin is some of the most erotic sensations you could provide someone.

Next Masterclass

Dr. Willow 30:03

Hmm. It is fun. I like to think about, um, my body as like a paintbrush, right? Mm. So like, my fingers are paintbrushes. My nipples are paintbrushes. And then, you know, the forearm, it's like a rolling pin. Oh, I like that. So when I, I'm playing. Yeah. When I'm playing with, partners or clients or whoever, whoever I'm working with, whatever bodies I'm working with, I'm always, painting my presence and my attention and my love onto their skin with whatever I am utilizing. Even if I'm using, uh, a flogger, you know, or a, a crop. It's like that is extension of my body. And so I am bringing that, you know, that tap or that sensation or that whip or whatever it is to their skin. And, when working with oils, you know, it's so fun to play with different, smells and different scents and different textures of oils. Some oils are thicker and more viscous. Some are thinner and more slippery, and so really starting to. Think about these different oils and these different toys and beads, objects, different things, objects, feathers are so fun and sensational. Mm-hmm. And it's just like, this is our playground. You probably hear me say that a million times, and it really is. It's like we need to just get in the sandbox and see what happens when we put this water with that sand, you know? And it's, it's really what it comes down to is just playing and playing with presence.

Leah 31:41

I love the introducing objects to touch with like a silk scarf with fringe off the ends of it. Mm-hmm. That you can drape over someone's body. A feather. I love that you mentioned like a crop or a string of beads, even your breath, you know. Totally a hot breath or a cooling breath when you sigh hot. That's a hot breath when you blow, that's a cooling breath. One of my most, arousing types of touch for my body is when, especially like my vulva or something, when someone spreads open my legs and they don't touch me too soon, they allow me first to feel the temperature of the air against tissue that's often not exposed.

Dr. Willow 32:36

Mm-hmm.

Leah 32:36

There's also something that I love about having some awareness to, to the different temperatures in the room. Because when you're laying down, let's say on a bed or a table, there's hot spots in the room. There's cold spots in the room, there's the texture of fabric against your skin. There's the heat of someone's hand. So to like feel someone touching the back of my heart with their warm palm. Mm-hmm. And then bringing my attention to my feet, that may feel cool. I just think the juxtaposition can be really interesting and I feel like by bringing people's attention to sort of sensation on the skin and temperature on the skin. It can drop you into a more meditative state of presence because you have to concentrate on what you're feeling, which causes you not to be thinking about anything else. Right. Like you're right there in the moment. Yeah. And that's a really important thing to acknowledge and why Variety it is, is something that one needs to pay attention to because it's that variety that keeps capturing the person's attention.

Dr. Willow 33:45

Yeah.

Leah 33:45

Versus just doing the same technique over and over again.

Dr. Willow 33:48

Yeah. That gets really irritating actually.

Leah 33:51

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes even a therapeutic massage can be too relaxing. Yeah. if there isn't enough variety to the pressure

Dr. Willow 33:59

mm-hmm.

Leah 34:01

Well, that's a little teaser on touch, y'all. Yeah.

Dr. Willow 34:04

Yeah. There's so much more to learn. There's so much more to understand. You can go grab the, uh, the what? Do we have a course on it? It's not a masterclass, it's a full course. Right?

Leah 34:15

I have a masterclass coming up about this erotic touch. Okay. so take a lookout. If you're not already on our mailing list, go get our free gift on talk trick kissing. You'll be on our email list and you will find out all about our upcoming Masterclasses Inc. Oh goodies. And the next one that's coming up with Dr. Willow and I is breath work for orgasms. if you wanna join us for that amazing masterclass, it's happening April 9th. Although it could be the eighth, but I'm pretty sure it's the ninth. We'll make sure it's correct in the show notes so you can have a link to sign up. And those master classes are so affordable. I think this one's like$19. Yeah, they're

Dr. Willow 34:53

great.

Leah 34:53

You have no reason not to come. Yeah. It's an hour long training and you're gonna learn amazing, amazing tips to, breathing that will quadruple the length of your orgasm people. I mean, it's something that, who doesn't want that? And even if you can't come live though, we always recommend it, there will be a free replay window. Yeah. So you can watch it if you are busy at the hour of this class.

Dr. Willow 35:17

That's right.

Leah 35:19

Okay. Y'all

Dr. Willow 35:19

all right y'all,

Leah 35:20

we love you.

Dr. Willow 35:22

Go on

Leah 35:22

flip side,

Dr. Willow 35:24

Chacha.

Speaker 35:25

Thanks for tuning in. This episode was hosted by Tantric Sex Master Coach and positive psychology facilitator, Leah Piper, as well as by Chinese and Functional Medicine doctor and Taoist Taxology teacher, Dr. Willow Brown. Don't forget your comments, like subscribes and suggestions matter. Let's realize this new world together.