Leah & Dr. Willow: Do Women Want to Be Masterful Lovers? | #202

Do Women Actually Want to Become Masterful Lovers, or Have We Only Ever Trained Men to Try? Leah and Willow dig into real conversations with men who are quietly craving more curiosity and skill from their partners, unpack why presence can be more powerful than technique, and get honest about the conditioning that's kept women playing it safe in bed. Funny, tender, and overdue.

 IN THIS EPISODE:

• Why men are craving more reciprocity, not just more sex
• The nine minute presence trick that stops a room
• What a hand resting on his body really means to him
• The conditioning behind why women hold back
• Why it's finally safe to want sexual mastery too

LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE: https://www.sexreimagined.com/blog/masterful-lover 

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Transcript

Do Women Want Mastery

Willow 1:04

Do women actually wanna become better lovers too, or has sex been framed for too long as something men are supposed to master? That's what we're gonna explore today on the "Sex Reimagined" podcast. I'm Dr. Willow Brown here with the one and only Leah Piper, and we are so excited that you are with us.

Leah 1:24

So tune in, turn on, and fall in love with me and Willow

Announcer 1:29

Welcome to the Sex Reimagined podcast, where sex is shame-free and pleasure forward. Let's get into the show

Poly Couple Insight

Leah 1:38

so, you know, I've been having some interesting conversations lately with men, and I wanted to bring this up on the show and with you because I hadn't ever really heard it framed this way, but parts of it I could relate to. So one conversation was with, uh, this good friend of mine who's been in a long marriage for years and years and years, happily married and very happily polyamorous. And they are involved in lots of different scenes. Some of it the swinger scene, some of it the Tantra scene, like all sorts of scenes. Really cool, open, interesting couple. And he has had so much experience. I mean, this is someone who has dated more women than 99% of the population, and one of the things he shared with me was, like, women don't really care about being master lovers. He goes, "You would be surprised how many women aren't very good lovers." men seem very much interested in being great lovers and invest time, money, resources, um, in learning skills. And he goes, "Women don't really have to." But you could tell there was longing, like wishing women would give as much of a shit as men do when it comes to learning skills of being an incredible lover. And then he went on to tell me, you know, stories of, uh, he was seeing this woman who was in... w- maybe was a sex worker in some form and, like how masterful and skillful she was. And how she would do something really cool and then that would have him up his game, and he would do really something cool, and then she would do something cool, and then he would do something cool. And, like, you could really tell that they were bringing a high skill level to how they were exploring with each other. And at the end there was like, You're really good." You know? It was very cute.

Presence At Play Party

Leah 3:32

And then, they were at some sort of like event or play party, some kind of sex party, and there was dancing and all this stuff and like- You know, the, the men who are a little more aggressive, who are really sniffing around, how they kind of pull on attention, and how she would give them undivided attention for like nine minutes. She would be really with them on the dance floor, in conversation, and then her hands would just kind of go into a little namaste. She would tilt her head, and she was complete, and she would go work the crowd. You know, find someone else that she was gonna connect with. She knew that she really wasn't gonna hook up with these guys, but she brought something to the table. He goes, "I was watching her do this, and it was an amazing, the effect she had on these guys." And I

Willow 4:18

you go. The power of presence is like, yeah

Leah 4:21

thought, "That's so interesting." Yeah, the power of presence, the power of undivided attention, the power of like really showing up without any issue, like, like I owe you something because I'm giving you attention. Like, she was like she completed a circuit

Willow 4:37

Right, right. Well, there's a, a

Leah 4:41

poise, and the guys weren't hounding her. It was like it was enough to go, "I'm complete." You know? Where that gets... You know sometimes there's men who like, who just won't stop. It's like they'll almost use it as an invitation to just keep on kind of clobbering you with their attention that's a little in your space. And I just thought, "Hmm

Willow 5:01

She sounds very masterful at holding a container, right? That's how I would, that's how I would put words to it. It's like she's, she's there, she's present, she's 100% in when she's in, and when she's ready to close it out, she namaste's out, you know? And that's brilliant, and I feel like no matter what your gender is or where you're at on your level of mastery, if you get really good at holding a container and bringing 100% attunement to the experience when you're within the container, you're gonna start to be on the masterful track. So-

Leah 5:42

y- it was almost like her attention grounded the men, and so that their revving wasn't so, like, uh, blundering into the space. You know what

Willow 5:53

Yeah.

Leah 5:53

So I thought that was, I thought that was cool.

Feelings Over Skills

Leah 5:55

But that's also kind of a little, that's a sort of a segue, um, because we use the word how to become a masterful lover in a lot of marketing because it's compelling to men. And I, and I never really thought how... Y- yeah, like I never really cared about being a masterful lover. When I've been in inquiry with sexuality, I've always cared about how can I go deeper? It's always been, how can I feel something richer?

Willow 6:22

For me, it's always been like, how can I heal more? How can I expand more? How can I reach higher levels of consciousness?

Leah 6:30

Yeah. How can I swim in the deep end with someone? How can I evoke someone's openness? How can we dance in, like, depth? And so, uh, what, what dawns on me is, like, and all that's really all about feeling. How can I feel a certain way? How can I help someone feel a certain way

Willow 6:46

Yeah. Mm-hmm

Leah 6:47

You know, a sense of trust and openness and ecstasy. Um, and along the way, what's emerged is more of a sex-geeky pursuit to learn skills. But I think that that really connects to my love of learning, not my deep desire to be great at sex. You know what I mean? I've always been sort of... A- and I, I see, like, I think a lot of women are oftentimes the same way. The only time I see this difference is, like, women wanna be better at blow jobs. Um,

Willow 7:20

Or even to even enjoy them. That would be a good start for a lot of women, yeah

Leah 7:25

But more women are probably like, "How can I avoid giving them?" Not really, "How can I be great at them?" So I just... I really thought the attitude really

Men Want Reciprocity

Leah 7:33

interesting. And then I was talking to somebody else who was, you know, feeling a little frustrated. They're getting older, and so erections are harder to come by. It takes a lot more to get the arousal flowing and moving. And, and he was commenting that he doesn't really have a lot of orgasms with partners. A, his body's changing, so they're, like I said, they're harder to maybe have. But he can have them with himself. And again, I felt this sense of frustration and longing and like, "Hey, I can pleasure my partner for hours, and I'm delighted and happy to do so. Love that they're such good receivers, but it's not reciprocated."

Willow 8:15

Right.

Leah 8:16

And I thought, "Yeah, that's really interesting." And just thinking about growing up and, you know, getting the messaging, "Boys only want you for one thing." You know? This, like, this thing of guys are the ones who want sex, so they're the ones that should be good at it, and they're the ones that should know how to do it. And, and I always felt like what that did is it, it let me off the hook of having to figure it out. All I had to concentrate on was being an object of desire, and that was enough participation. Everything else was kind of on them. And I can't say that I... There's still a part of me that sort of feels the same way. I mean, one of my favorite things to do is to teach men how to pleasure women, how to pleasure me. Um, to give them the specifics, to help them get those wins, so that they do feel masterful. I find that so incredibly rewarding, is to teach them the skills to deliver.

Willow 9:15

I mean, that is incredibly rewarding for sure.

Giving As Receiving

Willow 9:19

But I will have to say, I will call myself a masterful lover at this point, and getting like exponentially masterful lately. Like, wow, I don't even know what is going on. It's like some channel is pouring through for me these days. And I think what a lot of women are missing is that, you know, through giving to a man, there's so much receiving, right? This is one of the things we're about to talk about in our Polarity Masterclass, is like the giving and the receiving are reciprocal of each other. So even if I'm holding a container for a lover, for a man, I am doing it with, with total bliss and joy in my own body. Like, I'm not gonna do anything that doesn't feel super good to my body. Like, I'm not gonna get my body into a crunched, weird position and make sure he's getting his pleasure. Like that doesn't-- That he's not... Then the Shakti's not running. A sh- a sh- a circuit is short-fused, you know? So finding, um, ways and places where you're in your total and absolute delight and pleasure, that's what's actually gonna turn them on even more.

Leah 10:33

Yeah, I think that's actually really important to get the buy-in of a woman.

Willow 10:38

Yes.

Leah 10:39

You

Willow 10:39

Like I, I, and yeah,

Sensual Presence Practice

Willow 10:42

totally. And I, I mean, I was working with a, a couple recently, and you know, they've been together for over 30 years, and they have good sex, and they have a great marriage, and they love each other, and everything's great. I mean, but after a couple hours of like teaching them how to take the agenda of orgasm and even penetrative sex off the table, and to get into the exploration of like your body as puzzle pieces. You know? Like, how does this elbow fit in the back of that knee or behind that glute or right in the booty crack? You know? Like, you get to open up so much more possibility, and it feels fucking amazing. And you know, I just did a, a little collaboration with some of our sexpert friends, and I was like, you know, your body is like full of paintbrushes. Your hands are paintbrushes, your arms, your nipples are paintbrushes, your yoni is a paintbrush, your lingam is a paintbrush, the back of your neck is a paintbrush. Like, all these places, if you wanna... If you're using oil, you know, you're painting with areas of your body and l- and just exploring and learning and staying so hyper-present. It's beyond presence. That word gets so used that we kind of forget what it really means. It's like what I've been really guiding people into lately is like try to listen to a single second of sound. You know, use your ear, your auditory sense as a doorway to presence. Senses are doorways to presence. A single sound in a single second. Okay, now break the next second down into half, half of a second. Break that down into a quarter of a second. I learned this a long time ago in some Be- Zen Buddhist meditation thing, and I've done it for, you know, decades. So bringing

Why Women Hold Back

Willow 13:56

it into the sensuality, it's like we can actually touch the infinite. We can actually go into like worlds within worlds of a single microsecond, and that's, um, so fucking pleasurable because w- the world that we normally live in, we're constantly futurizing. We're constantly worried about what was, we're constantly worried about what hasn't come yet, and we're so far away from presence, it's causing stress and anxiety and hormone dysregulation. You know? So it's like this is a, a way that when we get into the playground with each other, when we get into the sensual and the sexual realm with one another, we have the opportunity to really dive deep into, um You know, beyond presence, like into a place where you're in so much bliss and rapture rubbing your nipple on somebody's inner ear that, like, nothing else matters

Leah 14:55

I have to say that once women get engaged with the pursuit, they are all in and they bring all the fascination and all the desire and all the curiosity and all the marvel that is just awaiting for them. They just come through a different door for the exploration. And I think it is easier for women to be more lazy lovers, because of how desirable and lush and soft it is to kind of fall into a woman. Plus we are the, we are the receiving station. We're the h- we've got the holes that most things go into. So thereby

Willow 15:33

also societal expectation, you know, why women would drop more into that, like, "Oh, you just figure it out and you do it."

Leah 15:41

Now, but there's also the woman that drops into this a lot earlier, and they don't get rewarded. In fact, they usually get a lot of judgment for being slutty, um, for being that kind of girl. So like, the, the, the beauty of a, of a girl dropping into her desire, dropping into her curiosity, dropping into her hunger for sexual exploration isn't often rewarded in culture. And so we're trying to suppress oft- at least from our generation. Maybe it's changing for future generations, but I don't,

Willow 16:15

I don't know. I was out dancing-- I was out observing a lot of young 20-year-olds the other night on the dance floor. They were drinking and they were dancing, and I was just like, "Oh my God, how can I penetrate this market?" Like, I feel like we could, uh, you know, prevent so much damage. I feel like they, the-- what I was witnessing, not all of them, of course, but just a lot of irreverence for their, their sexuality and their, their,

Leah 16:43

Well, I'm sure alcohol plays a role in that too.

Willow 16:46

For sure. Absolutely, 100%. Yeah.

Leah 16:49

So yeah, I mean, I think, uh, you know, back to like the women that I know that are very skillful,

Blowjob Confidence Stories

Leah 16:57

and then I'm, and I'm referencing very early on in my exploration, you know, sitting in a circle of women in my 20s at a class and they're talking about, uh, fellatio. And you could see... There was like usually like three women in the group who were super skilled at it, like major, major. Like they were sort of like known, like that was their thing and they loved it. And you could tell that like they were just watching men just shatter in their mouth in total ecstasy. And I was always riveted because I kind of have a small mouth and I've never felt super confident in my skills 'cause I always feel like my jaw's not big enough. I have a big gag reflex, can't get my teeth out of the way. You know, there's... And, and penises were scary to me early on- Mm-hmm in coming of age, you know? And I, and I'm, there's a lot of history with that as to, uh, what I think as to why. Um, it has to do with, uh, childhood stuff. And so it was like, uh, it was, my system was really trained to just be really good at receiving,

Willow 18:04

Mm-hmm.

Leah 18:04

giving was threatening. Like really existentially threatening of not being able to... Uh, uh, everything felt like it would go too fast and I would be flooded, and suddenly I feel like I was gonna be in a position that I wasn't ready for. And not knowing how to manage skillfully a situation so I could back out if I needed to if I was in over my head. And so, you know, I'm just, I'm kind of curious. I'd love to hear from the female listeners. Like, what's your journey been regarding your own curiosity? What do you feel like was the conditioned response for your desire to be really good at sex? Because I think there's then the other s- flip side of the coin, which I'll just speak from experience, is wanting to be impressive too. Like on the one hand being scared that I would be swamped and overwhelmed if things move too fast, so it was just easier just to be the receiver instead of be the engager. But then B, wanting to be memorable, wanting to be impressive, wanting to so capture the attention of said lover that they would never wanna let me go, But then when you really have a lot to choose from, you know? If you're in a situation as a woman and you can just say, "Next." You know, we're more at choice because we're not often the pursuers

Willow 19:29

Well, I mean, I think that is so, such a personal journey and personal e-experience for both men and women, whether or not we

Dating Apps And Choice

Willow 19:38

have a lot of options or not, you know? Like,

Leah 19:40

This is a lot of generalization

Willow 19:41

you have a lot of options 'cause you're you, and you're beautiful,

Leah 19:45

I never felt like I had options. But the reason why I'm saying that is because if you look at dating apps right now,

Willow 19:51

Yeah

Leah 19:52

w- there's, women have way more choices. There's so many men who are being left behind in the dating world, and that's because women have choices. And it's kind of why my friend was saying, "Look, women aren't curious about being masterful lovers because they don't have to be. Someone's gonna wanna fuck them anyways." So it- it's another reason why it's like, well, why would I be interested if part of like my, also my biological imperative is not nearly as stressed out about finding a mate as compared to men? Because a woman still has to say yes to letting you penetrate her.

Willow 20:28

Right

Leah 20:28

She has the power because she's, again, the one with the holes.

Willow 20:31

Yeah, I think that well, I think there's a lo-

Leah 20:34

I hate to say it that way. Like even I, I kind of cringe when I use the word hole, just side note.

Willow 20:44

I think there's a lot to the energetics of it all. You know, going back to the example of the woman at the party who knew how to wield her energy really well. You know, she was, um, coming in with a sense of self-worth, a sense of confidence, a sense of understanding the male brain. In fact, I just took a picture for my social media account today of the book called "The Male Brain," one of my top recommended books for men and women to read the male brain and the female brain, because when you understand the opposite sex and what's actually going on with them, you can use it to manipulate for sure, and I think there's been a lot of that going on over the, over the years and over the eons. But then you can also use it to bring out the best in men, and you can use it to help them see themselves more clearly. So it's really, um, it's how you use the energetics of it. And I think, you know, you were speaking to like penises were scary. I used to-- I didn't know what to do. I was all coming too fast, too furious. I didn't know how to handle it. And I think that is very true for a lot of female-bodied people where, you know, like let's say a, a man is coming at you and you're like, "Ooh, I don't know if I wanna give him an inch 'cause he's gonna take a mile if I do." So it's like, how do you acknowledge somebody and then close the container in a timing that works for you? You know, in a timing that is gonna help you feel more confident, more empowered, and also give them the acknowledgement that they're seeking. You know, so this is all-- it's, it's really such an art, and it goes beyond like being good at fellatio, you know? It goes beyond all of the, the dance of sexuality if we bring it into like the, the energetics and the relating of, of how it all works.

Leah 22:46

Yes, that's what we are most fascinated and interested in. I think that's maybe the door in for women, but I think a lot of men are like, "Would you reach for my cock without me having to bring your

Touch Without Pressure

Leah 22:58

hand on top of my cock so you realize, like, I would like to be touched here?" Because that was another conversation. I had this conversation with three separate guys. He goes, "You know what makes a woman really memorable?" And this is so rare. He goes, "I've rarely had this in a partner, is for them just to reach my cock just to hold it for the sake of holding it. I don't need you to do anything to it. I don't need you to like... It doesn't mean that you wanna have sex or you're trying to get me into having sex, but you just touch, putting my hand on my cock every once in a while." Like, it does something to their heart, not just their cock. It shows that you like me, I'm desirable to you. It's nurturing. It's comforting. It's like all these things. Like, I would like more partners who just do that without me having to ask for it, without me having to prompt for it. So like, that's one thing. And I think a lot of men are like, "I would like them to be the instigator, to be the initiator, to do things without me having to ask for it, especially as I get older because I n- I my, my penis needs to know, needs a little bit of encouragement as I get older. Its volunteer erections are harder to get, and then having them stay hard is, is harder to function. And if my lover acted more interested and, and did bring actual skill, did learn techniques beyond the energetics." Like learn how to do things with your whole body like you were just saying. Massage the whole body with your body. To, um, learn how to touch with greater skill, greater interest. To stay down there longer, not just to do a few strokes and then expect for everyone to be ready and now it's time to penetrate. Um, to want to make love longer, not to rush him, to hurry him up so he gets done. These are the things I think they're really talking about

Willow 24:49

Yeah. I love that. I love that you brought that up because w- I think it, it's such a, it's such a cycle. Like, I think one of the reasons women don't just reach for the cock is because, you know, don't just put their hand there, is because they believe that if I do that, that means I want sex, and that means it's gonna lead, and now his brain's going there, and then it's all too much. It's coming at me too fast, and I don't know what to do with it all. You know? So they don't, they don't wanna give an inch because they feel like a, a mile

Leah 25:18

afraid of the

Willow 25:18

taken.

Leah 25:19

expectation. Like,

Willow 25:20

So then...

Leah 25:21

something more, and I may not want more right then

Willow 25:24

Yes. And so then it does come back to holding your own energy and holding your own field around it. I mean, I've run into this myself even recently, where it's like I actually don't enjoy or appreciate when a guy moves my hand onto his cock, and most women don't. Most women don't like that. It, like, it's, it, you know... And so it's like there is, like, this little hook of, like, how can we give what they want without feeling like it's gonna turn into too much, too fast for us?

Leah 25:58

So two things, and it's one of the reasons why I wanted to have the conversation, and, and especially for our, um... And, and obviously we're talking about cisgender relationships.

Ask What It Means

Leah 26:08

Um, that understand, let's understand that there's meaning behind all of this. The reaching for your hand, instead of getting offended, annoyed, or having a reaction, just go, "Oh, let me see what's happening underneath this gesture." Because we may be running a script that's not actually true for them. We may be running a conditioned thing, but, but like we could be in greater inquiry. And, and A, and men, you could also say, "When you do this more often, this is the impact it has on me." And we could ask the question, "Hey, I notice that you often grab my hand and place it on your penis, and I'm wondering, what does that mean to you? What, uh, tell me a little bit about what it is you're looking for, what it is you desire. What is your expectation that has you reaching for my hand that way? 'Cause, you know, sometimes I have a little bit of a pullback, and I'm wondering if there's a different way I could hold it. Could you sh- could you tell me a little bit more about what this means to you?"

Willow 27:12

Mm-hmm.

Leah 27:12

Because then we could then be more invested. If we felt like the pressure was taken off of us, then we likely would reach more.

Willow 27:21

Uh-huh.

Leah 27:23

so I think, I think, I think A, men, we need you to communicate more

Willow 27:28

Yes. More words.

Leah 27:30

And not just what you need from a sexual standpoint, but what the impact is

Willow 27:35

Well, what it,

Leah 27:35

what happens to you when you get it. How does it

Willow 27:40

how does it feel? Yeah. How does it make you feel more connected? How does it make you feel more in your masculinity? How does it make you feel more virile? What does it do to your physical body? If you're really uncertain about all those emotional words, you can always go to your physical body. When you put your hand there, I feel like this effervescent tingling sensation run through my body, or whatever you

Leah 28:05

Yeah, I feel nurtured.

Willow 28:06

Yeah. Again, we're coming up with pretty feminine wordage for you guys right now, but whatever it is for you. I feel more energy. I feel more alive. I feel more, um, you know, whatever words come to you

Leah 28:20

I think the point is, especially with that particular gesture, is it's not sexual always for men. It's not because I want you to arouse me, though I might get aroused. It actually makes them feel loved. I think it does make them feel nurtured. I think men crave nurturing. I think they

Willow 28:39

Absolutely. Everyone craves feminine nurturing.

Leah 28:42

I'm just saying I think, men don't always feel totally received in their desire, in their sexuality. There was a Puja station that Guy

Men Desire Approval

Leah 28:50

did at the weekend seminar that I just loved. And what he did is he had the women stand behind the men in this exercise, and then the women opened up the men's arms so they expanded their arms really wide, wide back. Like the women, it was almost like, you know that moment in, um, the Titanic where the women, where what's her name is at the front of the bow of the ship, and he's holding her out? It was kinda one of those moves, okay?

Willow 29:16

We do that at Tantra Speed Day every time.

Leah 29:19

And his heart... Yeah, okay. So you see the, the heart expands, the chest expands. The man's heart is like wide open, and then the prompt is something like, "Guys, imagine your desire is right in front of you, and it's coming towards you, and you get to have it." And it was so beautiful. Watching the look on these men's faces, watching these faces soften, it was like so amazing. Like, I might be able to get my desire? It was like, my desire might actually be approved of? It's like, okay, I can have my desire, and here a woman is supporting me getting it? The symbology of it, the expression of the heart chakra opening and, and like being wide open, feeling like I could feel the men's desire right in front of them, and it was like a magnetic pull, and their desire was coming closer and closer to their physical body. It was so stunningly beautiful. I, it was, I was so impacted by it. And I think the big part of it was like that the women were supporting the men having the desire, when so much we feel their desire, and we push it

Willow 30:23

Push it away.

Leah 30:24

Not now. It's

Willow 30:25

push it-- It's almost like a visceral reaction, like w- our bodies are-- Before our minds can even conceptualize or think about what we're doing, our tissues, like, stop the desire. And I think it does come back to just, like, safety, you know? Like, there's just been too long that safety hasn't been a part of the equation

Safety And History

Willow 30:46

for women. I was just talking to a girlfriend on the beach this morning. She's like: "Do you realize that 40 million women were burned at the stake during the Spanish Inqu- Inquisition?" I'm like: "That's so

Leah 30:57

That's, that can't, that number cannot be right. There's no way it was 40 million. That, that number sounds way too high. I think we should fact-check that.

Willow 31:06

Let's fact check it.

Leah 31:07

Yeah, yeah. Because I've heard other studies that say it was actually a very, very small number as compared to what we think it was. Yeah. Somebody fact-check that for us. I would be gobsmacked. I hope that is not the number.

Willow 31:22

it's crazy, especially back then if there weren't even that many people on the planet, you know?

Leah 31:27

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Willow 31:29

Maybe she got the number wrong. But at any rate, it's-- the point is, like, there's a lack of safety in our systems that we are contending with. Like, w- who, who is it? Oh, it's, uh, Alison Armstrong, one of our favorites, right? She always was talking about, you know, women are the weaker gender. Like, we need men to protect us and to keep us safe, you know? And so there needs to be an element in that. And if we're trying to protect ourselves from men's, you know, especially in the sexuality realm, it's like there-- it's-- there has to be s- more conversat- more communication, I think, is a huge, huge piece of it

Leah 32:10

So yeah, you know, it's interesting. I, great book, I just finished listening to The Calamity Club, and it's based in like the 1930s. And what's really interesting is there were laws passed in almost every single state, especially California by the way, where women were being sterilized. They basically were tying women's tubes for if they were promiscuous. They called them feeble-minded. They were allowed to arrest women on the street if they appeared promiscuous. And this happened to a lot of African American women, was the major population where they were arrested. They could be beaten, and they could be sterilized. And it's, it is, it was so atrocious to me on multiple... So like you're saying, burning at the stake, there is something in the female nervous system that to be sexual, to actually take our sexuality and sexualize others was actually literally dangerous.

Willow 33:08

Dangerous, literally.

Leah 33:09

100 years ago. So there is something in the nervous system. So it's helpful for men to know that. But

Willow 33:16

Okay, I fact-checked for us. We got 3,000 to 5,000 people were executed overall. Um, witchcraft cases, quote unquote, the number was much smaller. One source, uh, notes that at least... Oh, anyway, this is

Leah 33:37

So you may wanna tell your friend our 40 million is off by millions.

Willow 33:41

into it. Is off, way off. I was like, that's the... I know, this... Like, damn, no wonder we're up against it. Fucking hell. Our

Leah 33:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Willow 33:50

heart, uh, and our nervous systems.

Leah 33:52

Okay. So ladies, we might be able to get off that bandwagon, by the way.

Willow 33:58

Yeah. Yeah.

Leah 33:58

Uh, we're burned

Willow 33:59

we don't have to

Leah 34:01

at the stake.

Willow 34:02

carry that in our systems anymore. No

Leah 34:07

use that to hold the patriarchy. Um, so but, but here's the thing, especially the women who are, like, listening to this show are, are not women

Call To Skill Up

Leah 34:15

who are wor- are, are no longer have to worry about being sterilized, who are not being burned at the stake. It is safe now to actually lead with some of our own sexuality. It is safe now to pursue becoming very skilled as a sexual person, to want to ravish men, sexualize men, bring them ecstatic pleasure, get them into not just their sexual body, but their emotional body. To have skills with that

Willow 34:43

Learn how to enjoy giving fellatio

Leah 34:46

pursuit of my entire life. Nothing is more interesting, more satisfying, more special than being skillful at providing sexual love, to helping men feel deeply emotionally, sexually loved and pleasured to their core. I am here to testify, hallelujah. This is something that I, I also want to inspire and hope for women to invest their time, their energy, their resources, their curiosity in developing this because men are worthy of it, and they're delicious in their pleasure. And, and it's such a joy. It's so healing to meet them in that space. And so if you haven't been asking yourself questions, ladies, "How can I be a more masterful lover?" Let this episode be the call to you that it is such a worthy pursuit. It will touch your life. It will change your life in ways you can't even imagine. And that's really the reason why I wanted to do this episode is to go, "Fucking we've been missing the boat on something," to, to, to, to love men in this way, to watch them, um, unfurl beneath your hands and everything else.

Willow 36:07

It is really quite an honor to witness a man rewire his, uh, his nervous system and his synaptic pathways from his brain to his heart to his cock. It's really, um, a miracle. It's a miracle to witness. It's really a beautiful, beautiful thing to, to be a part of, to get to deliver. It brings so much pleasure and so much healing to your own heart, not to mention gives you a whole new sense of confidence in yourself and your skills and what you have to offer to, um, you know, a huge part of the population of the world, and a big part that is in a lot of pain and suffering right now

Leah 36:53

And in closing, I wanna say something else that really impacted me in a conversation, and that is smile more. Everybody

Smile And Closing

Leah 37:01

smile more. When you walk into a room smiling, you light up the whole room. It has a deep impact on men, and it makes men actually feel compelled to wanna keep your smile on your face. They're so much more generous with us and our needs when we show that we are happy and we light up our face with our smiles. So let's just end with that. Thanks for this episode, y'all. This is one of those that I would really appreciate your comments, even if you totally disagree with everything we've brought to the table.

Willow 37:35

Do it with a smile though, for

Leah 37:36

Do a smile, would ya? All righty, cheers

Willow 37:40

Bye, y'all

Speaker 3 37:42

Thanks for tuning in. This episode was hosted by Tantric Sex Master Coach and Positive Psychology Facilitator, Leah Piper, as well as by Chinese and Functional Medicine Doctor and Taoist Sexology Teacher, Dr. Willow Brown. Don't forget, your comments, likes, subscribes, and suggestions matter. Let's realize this new world together