Special Re-READ Episode: Showdown at the Bar None

Escape with us into the literary cumulous clouds in this re-read of "Showdown at the Bar None." We're checking in from our hiatus with a delightful episode centered around Bonnie Worth's nostalgic 1990s novella. This book adds layers to our understanding of our favorite ranch teens and was a general hoot to read. We're proudly asking for an 'A' on our book report. Tune in for a fun and heartfelt discussion while we eagerly await our season five return.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Hiatus and Scholastic Book Club
• 14:55 Cactus-Themed Party and Favorite Horse
• 30:37 Joe Torres' Pen Name Mystery

Transcript

Hiatus and Scholastic Book Club

Teresa 0:00

Hey Homesnakes, we are really sorry about this extended hiatus of Yay Dude. We hope it's coming to an end soon but once the hiatus ends we know we're entering season five and hey Dude ends, so maybe we'll extend it a little longer. In the meantime, we're excited to bring you this mid-hiatus little treat. Jess and I read the novella Showdown at the Bar None, it's very 1990s, very eight-year-old reading level and fantastic, and we got to talk about it together. We hope you enjoy this. We will let you know as soon as we're ready to come back for good. We've got one more mid-hiatus treat for you. We watched Speed together. It was Jess's first time seeing the movie and dare I say, she loved it. Why wouldn't you Prost Graham Yost? Anyway, enjoy this scholastic treat. Be back again soon. We're not going to do like a full episode on this right, because we can't. Really that would be impossible.

Jess 1:18

It would be impossible. Yeah, the major highlight of my day was reading this book in the sunshine.

Teresa 1:26

Where did you sit outside to read it? Just at your house?

Jess 1:29

Yep In the patio on the outside under the magnolia tree.

Teresa 1:36

I love magnolia trees.

Jess 1:38

You got to consume this on an airplane.

Teresa 1:48

I read this on an airplane. I was three deep in the window next to my husband and my child. No, my child sat in the middle seat. I offered him the window, but he wanted the middle and my husband sat on the aisle and I have the duty of having everything under my seat so that I have to get everything out for everyone every two minutes. So I got a little bit interrupted during part of my read but thankfully it was pretty easy to remember and get right back into where I was, not a super complicated book.

Teresa 2:19

And also I've watched most of it in various episodes yeah, it appeared often it was delightful I read it. Should we?

Jess 2:27

introduce the podcast.

Teresa 2:29

Yeah, let's do. Oh, welcome, welcome, welcome, yeah, welcome to Yay Dude. It's a hey Dude rewatch podcast, but this very special episode is a Hey Dude reread podcast.

Jess 2:49

Yes, Not really a reread. I've never read it before, but no, welcome to the Scholastic Book Club edition of Yay Dude, I'm Teresa and you're.

Teresa 3:00

Jess, correct, and this is Showdown, showdown, and this is Showdown at the Bar None.

Jess 3:11

Do you want me to read the back?

Teresa 3:13

I would love it if you did yes.

Jess 3:17

So it's a really beautiful back cover. It has a very large H with an Ernst-style cowboy hat.

Teresa 3:27

Ernst-style cowboy hat. That was drawn in MS Paint.

Jess 3:31

Yeah, it's great and the H is the hey. So it says hey, dude, showdown at the Barnum, ted in charge. What could be worse? He turns into Attila the Hun with a cowboy hat. Can Brad stop him? And if she does, will she be in charge? Will there be an all-out war at the Barnum Ranch? Now the kid cowboy TV comedy is a book. All the wisecracks and adventurers of Nickelodeon's. Hey Dude, all caps are here in Showdown at the Bar. None, all caps, with no commercial interruptions.

Teresa 4:08

You won't want to miss it. That's amazing. I also like the second sentence Ted in Charge. What could be worse is actually not a question, it's just yelling at us.

Jess 4:19

What could be worse? This was published in 1992 by MTV Network networks. Uh, published by grosset and dumb lap incorporated. Oh, it does have an author bonnie worth.

Teresa 4:37

Oh, where do you see it on the title page? Oh my gosh, we've been saying author nobody but Bonnie, let's look her up. Let's look her up real quick. Yeah, because I feel really bad now. I called her nebulous last week, oh my gosh. Alright, bonnie Worth, the author, penguin, random House. Countless books for young readers. Can I tell you this real quick? Yeah, count them. Okay, they're countless, I can't do it. Okay. Bonnie Worth is the author of countless books for young readers, among them 18 of the Cat in the Hat's Learning Library books, including oh Say, can you Say Dinosaur, Dinosaur, can you say it?

Teresa 5:39

Dinosaur, dinosaur can you say it dinosaursei? Can you dinosaur? If I ran the rainforest, Osei, can you seed, which is the winner of the 2003 Ohio Farm Bureau Award, and hark a shark? And if I ran a horse, show what? And if you never want to miss a new book by Bonnie Wirth or get personalized recommendations for top trending books and more, you can sign up on Penguin Random House. Look at her. She's done some good stuff for kids, including this one. I would have liked this book when I was nine.

Jess 6:22

You might know her as Kate Climo K-L-I-M-O. That was Bonnie Worth is one of Kate Climo's pen names. No way. For years, kate was president and publisher of Random House Children's Books and the one and only home of Dr Seuss, so that's why. So okay, then it tells you Dr Seuss' stories.

Teresa 6:56

Ooh, she did. Looking for Bigfoot, a step four book, step Into Reading. We got that one from the library once Sam was on a kick where he really liked Bigfoot. She did a full house Same to you duck face. It's called a full house novella. Another one Way to Go Chipmunk Cheeks is also a full house book. We might need to do that. Yeah, that might. There's the hey Dude book, another full house book called kiss a frog, princess, oh jessica. She did a couple of family matters novellas, one called have no fear, the irk man is here and one called lean mean urkel machine.

Jess 7:42

Oh I like I like it. Under Kate Clemo she wrote the Dragon Keepers and the Dog Diaries and the Centuriad for Young Adults. Okay, and as of whenever this bio on Goodreads was published, her newest book was the Enchanted Dress Shop. Ooh, that sounds kind of fun, which was optioned for the screen. That's cool.

Teresa 8:12

Huh, well, I'm really happy to know about that she's a real person and not a nebula. I know I'm sorry, I called you a cumulus cloud. It's something I always think of when. I hear nebulus. Oh, I mean, that's what being nebulus looks like.

Jess 8:31

I think it looks like a nebula, frankly.

Teresa 8:36

That would make more sense than a cumulus cloud. My favorite thing, before we get into the meat of this one, is the last page, this page that I really want to just try it. I want to send this in and see if anything happens. It's an order form.

Jess 8:54

I am so intrigued by don't just sit there. 50 ways to have a Nickelodeon day. Yes, Make your own.

Teresa 9:03

There's also make your own videos, commercials, radio shows, special effects and more. We could get some tips. Yes, make your own. There's also make your own videos, commercials, radio shows, special effects and more.

Jess 9:07

We could get some tips yeah.

Teresa 9:10

Especially on special effects. And then there's Think Fast, which is Nickelodeon's brain bending games and puzzles. You know I love puzzles.

Jess 9:18

And this one has jokes so bad they're good in a section called the Grown Zone.

Teresa 9:25

And it has Gnarlicious skateboard. Gnarlicious, gnarlicious. You're right, gnarlicious skateboard, maze and and skateboard is spelled with an eight. Yeah, yeah. So you know who's into that is buddy I. That's what I was thinking.

Jess 9:43

That's exactly what I was thinking and I love how it says tune into them all, as though that's what you do to a book.

Teresa 9:51

You know what, though, like I would be more likely to read more books if I thought it was a tv show yeah still like to this day. I I hear that. Do you want to try sending this in and see what happens? We can make a photocopy, because I don't want to rip this out Was the idea that you would rip out the last page of the book, which has words on it, which has words on the other side. Huh, and then just write your mom's Visa card number on it.

Jess 10:23

Weird. Yeah, these books were $3.adian or 295 usd.

Teresa 10:32

Shipping and handling was 125 for one book and 50 cents each for each additional one I love this kind of step back into the past where it's like in my hot little hands. It's not just watching it, it is, it is holding it do you remember?

Jess 10:47

we just took a whiff.

Teresa 10:50

Yeah, this doesn't smell like old library book, this smells like old basement. Does yours?

Jess 10:57

when I first got it it smelled like um whatever book warehouse that had been stored in. I love the idea. Chip Simon, the cover artist.

Teresa 11:07

Yes, but I also think you're ready to tell me about Chip Simon, but I also love oh. I'm not Okay. Two things One, imagining all the places this book has been before it came to my household and is now on display on our little credenza With your choral stick stick.

Jess 11:26

Isn't that where that was?

Teresa 11:28

yes, love it. Uh, so I love thinking about that older, hey dude whose little hands have held this book and then whose little teeth got into mine like oh, somebody bit it like the middle is all bitten that's great.

Jess 11:49

We should get somebody to dust this for fingerprints for me and we could run it through a fist or whatever but also, oh my god, don't you wish we had had these and been at 90s con and been able to get them signed. Holy that have been a dream, yes.

Teresa 12:06

And then the second thing I was going to ask you do you remember this little uh logo?

Jess 12:11

no, I don't think I ever encountered a nickelodeon book before, and the nickelodeon books logo is fly, it is something else it is.

Teresa 12:21

I've never seen, I don recall this. It is like a big beaked bird with a hat backwards and book for wings and then some rad ass tennis shoes.

Jess 12:34

Yeah. And Nickelodeon emblazoned over the wing. Oh, of course.

Teresa 12:40

And of course, it's orange Duh. We'll have to put that on the Instagram. Well, what do you want to say here on?

Jess 12:51

this very special episode.

Teresa 12:53

The cover is cute, that's a cute picture.

Jess 12:56

The cover is so cute. I wanted to start with Brad's description of Ted on page 10. Can I read that?

Teresa 13:03

to you yes, but are we going to try to do this in order, because there was like a pretty big bomb dropped really early on. I mean that is the fourth page. Yeah, can I tell you about the second page?

Jess 13:19

Yeah.

Teresa 13:20

Page eight at the bottom, but it's the second page. Melody Hansen had been working at the ranch since she was 13 years old. She was a swimming instructor and lifeguard At 13?

Jess 13:43

at 13. Now, I took that as she was probably a junior buckaroo type back then who was in charge of, like you know, washing a dish, like I was when I was 13 at a summer camp, and so that's what I had imagined, and she graduated to lifeguard god, I sure hope so.

Teresa 13:57

I don't want a 13 year old lifeguard, but I will. I mean it's believable, because not only is it like at that point it would have been what like 1985 or six, and currently, to this day, where I used to live my former state of Iowa, 14-year-olds are the lifeguards, 14. They're in middle school and they're the ones in charge of saving your life. So I could believe it. I guess that's true, but she's coming from across the country for the entire summer to lifeguard at 13,. Even if she was just washing dishes, yeah, it's like pretty intense. Anyway, I wonder how she got the job. Yeah, yeah, curious. All right, you tell me your thing. I just wanted to point that out because I thought that was. I was jaw on the floor of the airplane at that point.

Jess 14:55

This book is written from Brad's POV in large part.

Teresa 15:01

Mm-hmm.

Jess 15:03

And it says she says of Ted oh my God, why are words so hard?

Teresa 15:08

It's a really hard book.

Jess 15:10

It's a really hard book. Here on page 10, it says Ted looks surprised. What is the world coming to? I try to say something nice and all I get is a slap in the face. Ted McGriff was cute and he knew it. That summer Mr Ernst had given him the title of quote senior staff. No one knew exactly what that meant. Ted thought it meant he could boss around the other kids and this did wonders for his ego. But despite his large ego, ted wasn't all that bad. Actually. Wonders for his ego. But despite his large ego, ted wasn't all that bad. Actually he could be a very good friend and a hard worker. His intentions were usually good, but sometimes his scheming went a little overboard. Brad thought, quote senior staff just meant ted was a jerk, but he was cute.

Teresa 15:53

I thought that was actually good job. Bonnie. Like I thought that was a good job Bonnie. Like I thought that was a really good description and that's kind of how I've been describing him is like you know, they give him a pass because it's 10 and they know deep down he's kind of a good guy. He can do a good job if he tries, and he was cute.

Jess 16:13

You know how I've been drawing parallels to Jake Peralta of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which I'm completely back into 100%, by the way.

Teresa 16:20

because of that, I love it.

Jess 16:24

In the last episode that I watched, he says of himself that he's the class clown slash bad boy with a heart of gold, gold, and I feel like that's the name of this character, this stereotype, this manny picks a manic picks a dream girl of a young man like the class clown slash bad boy with a heart of gold I am such a sucker for that kind of guy and gal.

Teresa 16:56

I yeah, it's just like one of my favorite types of people. I just and when I was teaching the students who were like that and just like other kids would be like he's your favorite. I would just be like yeah, kind of. I mean, yeah, you should be yours too, he's the funniest one.

Jess 17:15

Um it I I'm glad to have the words for whatever the it, whatever that is that that?

Teresa 17:23

factor yeah they.

Jess 17:26

There were a couple of schemes that mr ernst had tried out that the kids are talking about that I really liked. Um, uh, one of them was a he had tried out a snow dome, which is not something I've ever I've. Have you ever heard snow dome instead of snow globe?

Teresa 17:45

no, that one wasn't that's regional, or I do too. I that's that.

Jess 17:50

One took me a minute also and the other scheme of mysteries was um, he threw a party that that had the theme of come as your favorite cactus. I love that and I wanted to ask you which cactus you would go as uh, of all the kinds that I know, which is so many yeah uh, I mean's going to come as a saguaro, everybody's going to come as a saguaro?

Teresa 18:25

Yeah, I also know prickly pear, is that one? Yeah, okay, that one I know is delicious, so that could be kind of fun. And then the other one I know is that's it? Oh, that'd be one of those two, but I think I would have to go prickly pear. How about you? Do you know more than two?

Jess 18:50

yeah, I know san pedro, oh um, that's one that you can uh.

Teresa 18:59

Is that the one that's just like A dome?

Jess 19:02

Yeah, and also Is an ingredient, or maybe you could just take it. It has psychedelic affiliations.

Teresa 19:11

Ooh it knows a guy.

Jess 19:14

It knows a guy, but I think that would be a fun one. Like to be a trippy cactus Like. I think I could get into that.

Teresa 19:23

You go as cactus drug and I'll go as cactus drink and there you go. Yeah, I love it Because we know Prickly Pear makes a good margarita.

Jess 19:35

It's in the simple syrup, you guys Totally simple, you guys Totally simple but so complex.

Teresa 19:41

Here I thought this was great, right after that line about your favorite cactus. When they said Mr Ernst has some of the dippiest ideas, said Melody, yeah, she really likes to say dippy.

Jess 19:55

That is one of her catchphrases.

Teresa 19:57

We know from this that buddy is 12, so that was good to to have confirmed and I also like that. Now I feel comfortable calling it the lodge. They called it the lodge in the book, yeah that was a relief I was happy to.

Jess 20:19

Can I?

Teresa 20:20

tell you my least favorite part of the book. Yeah, there was a point now I don't know where it is because I didn't take notes or, you know, put post-its in here but they talked about the yankees. I don't know if it's a yankees hat or going to yankeeses game. First episode Buddy comes in wearing a Mets hat. So, bonnie, continuity. There was a continuity issue there, bonnie, so way to go. But that was my only qualm with the book.

Jess 20:56

Yeah, it was great. I have another couple of notes. Okay, I liked that Brad acknowledged that Lucy is firm and no nonsense and so she's handy to have around with a Ted on the picture Because you know there's a grown-up. But then this book centers around lucy not being there and there being this horrible power struggle between uh, ted and brad. Um, as it, what's the episode?

Teresa 21:32

that this is based on. Uh, inmates were in the asylum. Yeah, that's one. I just you made me remember something, though they gave us a hint at how old Lucy is. Yeah, which is not very old.

Jess 21:47

No um 28?.

Teresa 21:50

Something like that.

Jess 21:51

I think it's on page 20.

Teresa 21:53

She's like 10 years older than Brad or something. Yeah, so maybe 27. Yeah, I don't think so. You know, like I think Deb Kalman's a beautiful woman, but I don't look at her in that show and think that's a 27-year-old.

Jess 22:12

No, she says in this book she liked both of them, although she didn't have much in common with either, referring to Melody and Lucy. Lucy was 10 years or so older than the kids, with blonde hair and a deeply tanned face. She had a firm, known-nonsense way about her that Brad knew would come in handy with Ted around. This is in the flashback to Brad's first day.

Teresa 22:34

Yes, so it is based on inmates run the asylum, but they do flashback to the first day. Yes, so it is based on inmates run the asylum, but they do flash back to the first day.

Jess 22:42

I liked this little, this thing. Ted calls Brad out for wearing dude duds and I I liked that acknowledgement of the origin of the word dude, like they know from who's coming to the dude ranch, because they're gonna be the wealthy people who want to come to play. And he thinks brad's clothes are fake fake.

Teresa 23:10

They're not. They, yeah, they're dude duds. I did like that, forgot about that. The other thing I liked is that they kept the storyline about buddy doing his dad thing, like where he's dropping the computer paper and oh no, I'm doomed.

Teresa 23:26

I say yeah I think if you are nine and you're trying to read a chapter book maybe you haven't done it in a long time or this is your first one, or whatever it would be nice as a as an emerging reader, to be able to picture the show like I actually see that, like the educator in me is like oh, this is a really good strategy for helping kids learn to read and have a little bit more reading stamina is they can follow along with a you know 22 minute episode that they know, yeah, I, as I go through it.

Teresa 24:06

When I was reading it I was like, okay, so I'm just watching the reading the episode, but this is scholastic, which I should. I should mention. I believe that's where Lisa Malama used to work before she came to Nickelodeon. I think she worked at Scholastic. So that's a really nice little crossover, like Scholastic does amazing things for literacy. And I'm just like, as I was thinking about this, heck, yeah, I would have read those Full House books and probably I don't think I would have done the Family Matters one I would have if it wasn't just about Urkel.

Jess 24:41

Yeah, that guy was too much. Family Matters was not my jam. No, I know a few listeners will be happy to know that canonically in this book, brad's favorite horse is named Duchess and she's a Palomino. Yeah, I don't know that the television show has ever addressed her favorite horse, aside from, you know, the gift horse.

Teresa 25:08

Don't look that one in the mouth. Don't do it.

Jess 25:12

Charisma.

Teresa 25:13

Charisma, but that horse never really belonged to her.

Jess 25:18

It belonged to Bobby and Trot At the end of the day, that's where they were destined to be. Oh, Brad and Ted get lost on a trail ride. That's new. Yes, that was a plot change.

Jess 25:33

I really liked that little adventure. He and Brad are assigned to go on a hike together, and or not, on a ride together, with a bunch of human beings on their horses. They get lost because Ted is like, hey, let's look at this cave. And he makes up a story about there being old lady desert pirates. It frankly sounds like a great spinoff. I'm in, and then brad is like I can make shit up too, and so she takes everybody over to canyon and says there's a secret Air Force base there and we're on page 40 and 41. If you want to follow along, I do. He goes into it, though, about the desert pirates. They were a gang of old lady thieves led by the notorious Myrtle Scoggins, known by her nickname Blue Hair. They rode all over the West in a covered, covered wagon, robbing and terrorizing any pioneers they came across.

Teresa 26:40

They hid out in this very cavern and some people say their treasure is hidden inside I forgot about this whole part where they get lost in the desert on a trail ride. That could have been really bad yeah, danny comes to the rescue. I like though that they were just like. Let's just pretend I mean the, fake it till you make it thing I get it.

Teresa 27:04

I do that a lot, but I hate it so much I'm done doing it forever Should you really fake it till you make it when you're lost in the desert, like with real grown-ups, with real grown-ups, with real grown-ups. It's not good. No, they put these kids in some situations that it's like whose fault is it?

Jess 27:29

really it's, it's probably the guy who put the kids in charge of taking people out deep into the desert yeah, yeah, mr ernst is like his decision to use a coin flip to decide whether either of these dum-dums is going to be in charge, when clearly melody and danny are the responsible ones. Um, like who like? Prove it over the course of.

Teresa 28:00

There is no reason that I can think of to send anyone other than Danny to do anything. Basically, yeah, yeah. They even say at the beginning of the book like Danny's as good on a horse as Brad is. Like, send Brad and Danny, why are?

Jess 28:20

you sending Ted and also put Danny in charge of the ranch while you're gone.

Teresa 28:26

Thank you, and if Melody has been there since she's 13 years, old and she gets up every morning at five anyway, like what's Brad have to do with this? I my only guess is that and I think this is true that Brad is a little bit older. Can I think that that's part of an episode when she's like you're irresponsible? Melody the bunkmate battle? I think she indicates that she's like a year older. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, and that it's a better plot point to have these two nemeses Is nemeses.

Jess 29:09

I watch this really interesting piece by do you know Natalie Wynn of Contra of contra points? Nope, I think. On her little bio it says she's a philosopher or former philosopher and youtuber. Um, she is an incredibly insightful and very funny human being. Okay, who did this episode called on twilight and it was all about the dynamics between men and women and how they play out. And I was just reading this book with her words in my brain was really interesting about how this, because I still just I'm so annoyed with Ted all the time and I do not understand the will they won't they, because she is, I mean, hormone alert is there any other reason to be in it.

Jess 30:14

To be like to Ted, to mess with Ted other than hormone. So I don't know To be in it. To be like To Ted yes, to mess with Ted other than hormones. So I don't know.

Joe Torres' Pen Name Mystery

Teresa 30:22

He has a quality that we have discussed at length and, yes, he has hormone alert. I mean, come on, they're teenagers At this point, in my opinion, the cutest boy on the ranch Does he stay? The cutest boy on the ranch? I don't know, they're all a good-looking crew.

Jess 30:44

Yeah, it's true.

Teresa 30:47

And.

Jess 30:47

Danny would be good to you. I don't know, that's it. You're not into that.

Teresa 30:52

If he would have you even though, when you're 17, you're not into that. That's not what you're looking for. You're looking for the jess, come on. You're looking for the class clown bad boy with a heart of gold.

Jess 31:02

That's what you're looking for I, um, I hear that and I hear that they're. That's what's so exciting about the will they won't, they of them?

Teresa 31:18

I'm ready for you to get on board the ted, ted and brad the bread train ah, yes, the bread train it's just that I really, even then you wouldn't have been into this guy when you were a teen. Wouldn't have been into this guy when you were a teen.

Jess 31:37

I don't, I just don't see it working out for them.

Teresa 31:41

Well, we'll see what happens in the reboot, Jess, because I absolutely see it working out for them and I'm super excited to see their children work on the ranch as they grow up. I 100% am team bread. They are going to end up together forever. You're wrong. You have to like 17 year old boys.

Jess 32:06

I mean it's better than fucking Kyle.

Teresa 32:07

Yeah, 17 year old boys. I don't want to make excuses for them, like they should still be decent human beings, but they're also doofuses and it's fine. And they don't necessarily stay doofuses and I don't like the whole, like well, you know, just you got to give him a pass because it takes him longer to mature. I'm not saying give him a pass, but also understand. It's developmentally normal that he's a doofus. Yes, so and there's a lot of doofy girls out there too. She's a total doofus in this book.

Teresa 32:51

She sure is Like she should know better than to just ride off into the middle of the desert. I mean, come on, Brad.

Jess 32:59

One final thing I'd like to point out, or not even point out but ask about. How do I talk about this? It's just that there are two spaces after a period in all of this book long, and I think it kind of bums me out that there's not that much room anymore in our lives like I liked having two spaces.

Teresa 33:24

Do you think this was done on a typewriter? Huh, two spaces used to be kind of important because otherwise the little flappy flapper would get jammed.

Jess 33:35

Right, but also we were required to use two spaces all throughout our education.

Teresa 33:42

I know it's really dumb.

Jess 33:44

Did we stop in?

Teresa 33:44

college. I don't know when I stopped, but now I still see people do it sometimes and I'm like what happened to you? Yeah, how did you become like?

Jess 33:54

this. I think it's just that they're over 50 I.

Teresa 33:59

I mean, I've seen people younger than me do it. What, how?

Jess 34:02

did they learn? I don't know, huh I mean I I like this is I don't read books very often because I have pretty severe add and have a really difficult time concentrating on a thing, but I think that this was exactly my level of reading I know that's how I felt the spaciousness of this book, um, and the big type like this may be what is required for me the kerning.

Teresa 34:35

The kerning, I think, is what that's called was very, very pleasing and I would agree. I liked the size of it, the words and the thickness of the book and I liked that I was able to do it in half an hour. Yep, that's how I need books to be consumed.

Jess 34:54

That's how I need books to be consumed. I also really like a horseshoe chapter number heading and also the drop cap is really lovely and old-timey Western saloon font.

Teresa 35:09

Yeah, it's really cool. Should we say how things turn out? If you didn't watch or listen and follow along with us on Inmates Run the Asylum, you might want to go back and check that one out. I think what did we say was the first episode of season four.

Jess 35:25

No, of season three.

Teresa 35:27

Yeah, Season three. Yeah, it was somewhere in season three. You can watch that one. You basically get the gist of this book, but essentially it turns out then that's it so end of book.

Jess 35:49

Yep, in conclusion, I believe that I should get an A for this book report ah, yes, you, you do you get an A, thank you, you get an A for this book report. Ah, yes, you do you get an A, thank you. You get an A also. Thank you, I mean, I've got. There are two new places where Joturas might be, which are clearly the cave and the canyon. Mm-hmm. Former old lady, bad girls club. Mm-hmm.

Teresa 36:15

Ghosts town or Air Force secret base, absolutely, I think those are two very obvious places. The other thing, and I only just thought of this today when you did your research there on the fly fly research about Bonnie Worth and her pen name Her pen name is Bonnie Worth, right, what if Joe Torres is his pen name? Oh, and that this whole time he's actually back being his regular self, which is maybe like the guy who's writing cool books, like don't just sit there. 50 Ways to have a Nickelodeon Day.

Jess 37:03

Interesting.

Teresa 37:05

You know, Interesting. Okay, or whichever one makes more sense. Maybe Joe Torres is his real name and he has a pen name now. I don't know. I like the idea of Joe Torres with his real name and he has a pen name now. I don't know. I like the idea of Joe Torres with his pen name.

Jess 37:20

Yeah that he decided to take on this identity for the purposes of the show, so he could go back to real life afterward. Yes, I mean, that's a good plan. It's not bad If he never wanted to continue with acting after, like if he knew this was a limited duration engagement.

Teresa 37:38

Yeah, I wonder what he I mean he got cast as a teen in Tucson. I wonder what he thought If it was just yeah, I'll do this for a minute and see, or if he had intentions to stick with it and then changed his mind. God, I really. Joe Torres, if you're listening, we really would like to talk to you.

Jess 38:02

Yeah, true, whatever your real name is.

Teresa 38:07

Whatever your real name is.

Jess 38:10

We'll respect all things you put forward, we'll call you whatever name you would like us to, and we'll buy you a belt, buckle, mm-hmm, whatever you need. We love you, Joe Torres.

Teresa 38:23

We love you. Joe Torres, we hope you're well. Yes, there was a trough in this book, if I recall correctly. Right, Didn't they throw?

Jess 38:32

Ted in the trough? No, we decided that the lake is not a trough.

Teresa 38:36

No, but when they're flashbacking to the first day, am I misremembering?

Jess 38:44

No, that's the mud puddle that he.

Teresa 38:47

Yeah, but don't they break in his clothes?

Jess 38:50

I don't think they do that in the book, but that could have been in one of the pages that I was not paying attention to.

Teresa 38:57

I thought that we got a trough incident. I'm going to go back and then we can correct it in the corrections trough during season five. Because my question to you if there and if there is one, do we get to count that?

Jess 39:15

Oh uh, oh well. I don't think there is one. Do we get to count that? Oh uh, oh well. I don't think there is. Yeah, he raised one filthy hand toward brad and said sweetly, will you help me up? Brad was touched. Ted was admitting that he needed her help. She reached out to help him, but instead of letting her pull him up, ted yanked her into the mud puddle with him all right.

Teresa 39:34

Well, well, maybe not, so I guess no trough incidents, if I were to find one in there, would you let me count it?

Jess 39:42

No, that's just what my gut says. Alright, Joe Torres hope you're well.

Teresa 39:50

No, troughs. How many horseshoes do you give this book? Yeah, that's the question. How many horseshoes are actually in this book? Yeah, that's the question. How many horseshoes are actually in this book? Oh, every chapter starts with a horseshoe, and there are 13 chapters, 13 chapters, so does it get 13?

Jess 40:06

Clearly this book is a 13 out of 13. Agreed Horseshoe book, yep. And that's not even counting the one on the cover. It's only the 13 on the inside that's true.

Teresa 40:22

And then there's one on the title page, so in theory it's 15 horseshoe book.

Jess 40:29

It only gets 13 out of 15, though in my opinion, okay, yeah, it gets.

Teresa 40:36

It gets all 13 definitely gets all 13, no more than that. Okay, 13, 26 total. Great job book. Great job book. Great job. Bonnie worth. Sorry we called you nebulous. Um, I really appreciate the work that you and your pals at Penguin and Scholastic and wherever you have worked do to get young children reading and literate. My son is like reading now. He just came behind me the other day and like read my team's chat at work. Whoa, I know it's like dude, I can't text about you now.

Jess 41:20

Now you're going to read it. I don't have a secret language anymore called being literate.

Teresa 41:27

I know Dang Many props to all the folks out there who get kids reading.

Jess 41:34

Well, thanks for coming to our mid-season episode. We hope you enjoyed and we'll catch you in season five, which will be forthcoming when we can, yes.

Teresa 41:51

All right. Well, that's all I got. Oh, and my battery thing just came on. That's perfect timing.

Jess 41:55

Oh, I love you so much and I really love doing our show and we'll do what's all I got. Oh, and my battery thing just came on. That's perfect timing.

Teresa 42:04

Oh, I love you so much and I really love doing our show and we'll do season one, episode five. Nope, you know what I mean I do. Okay, all right, love you. Bye for now. Bye for now, thank you.