7.21.2026 - George Pfeffer & Anne Moebes discuss "Music Man Sr."

The show will run from July 30-Aug. 2 at SART in Mars Hill. For tickets, click:
https://sartplays.ludus.com/show_page.php?show_id=200521365

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Good morning. This is the Blaine's World Podcast, where conversations are worth hearing and seeing. You can watch us each week on Facebook, YouTube, and LinkedIn. You can also listen in on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. In addition, you get more information about past episodes and future episodes on my website, which is behind me, Blaine's World.net. I'm your host, Blaine Greenfield, and I'm here in my uh Zoom studio in lovely downtown Fairview, North Carolina. And each week we focus on positive news and uplifting stories about people and organizations in both Western North Carolina and throughout the country. And toward this end, toward that end, we actually have two guests today, and they are Anne Mobies. Do I have it right? I think so.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

Moby's uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Okay, and George Pfeffer. And folks, you can wave to all your fans and friends who are watching. So give them a big wave. Okay. That is Anne.

SPEAKER_03 0:57

All six of you.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Okay, well, maybe seven. Anne, I should mention, calls herself a recovering lawyer, once fleeing a White House legal job for film school in LA, boomerang back to lore, as head of Disney's motion picture picture, Mark and Legal Team. She still managed a long way to earn that film degree and make some award-winning films, including one that's screened at the Asheville Film Festival. Retiring to Asheville in 2019, she now returns to her singing and performing Roots and Music Man. As Marion, a librarian, I love how you say this, she says she has a lot in common with except my age and dress size. She mentioned that George is a retired chemistry professor who also taught science, rhetoric, and theater in middle high school, in middle and high school. He has been in lots of community theater productions in North Carolina. Excited to be in the Music Man at Sawd because of the excellent people involved, because he qualifies as senior, and because he's from Iowa. I love it. Okay, guys, let me start off first of all since for some we're meeting, at least online, and talk a little bit about you. And I'll start off with Ann. In terms of a kid, Ann, you grew up where?

SPEAKER_03 2:09

I grew up in Greensboro, North Carolina. As a kid growing up, did you always know you wanted to be in theater? No, I yeah, I mean, I always performed. I can remember performing in talent shows and things like that, you know, singing. Um, and I was always in a choir or something like that, but I I never thought of it as a career or anything. And then life just kind of took over, and I, you know, did some shows when I was in my 20s and 30s, but then kind of just didn't do much after that. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

As a kid, were you ever in a show?

SPEAKER_03 2:47

Uh you know, I used to actually try to direct and act in little plays I wrote for the neighborhood kids. And I, you know, I mean, really at a very young age. So I I yeah, so I mean, and also we used to have, I don't know where where you if where y'all grew up, if you had like the show uh wagon, you know, like it would go to the parks, you know, parks and recreation, and they'd have the show wagon, and I'd used to perform in the show wagon and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

In terms of an actual show, do you remember the first show you were ever in? Be it could be as a kid or it could have been.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

I think in high school I was on in Once Upon a Mattress.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Okay. Yeah. In the chorus. And because I have this great idea for a fundraiser, Anne, for Sawd or anybody else, nobody's taking me up on this, but everywhere you get to recreate the very first role, you know. So Once Upon a Mattress, um, did they have a video of that somewhere or they have a record of it anywhere?

SPEAKER_03 3:48

You know, I don't think they did, or at least I never got a copy of it. But yeah.

unknown 3:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

But wouldn't that be fun? You know, so you could uh recreate that role. And the same thing I'll ask George, Charles' kid, did you ever do any acting?

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Um as a kid, not really. I I I was in choir and some um other things like that in um in in high school. And um and I got a I got uh a role as Balthazar uh in Amal in the Night Visitors, and that was my first one.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

So same same question. Does anybody have a record of that, George?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Um they they might at the uh I mean I'm a thespian and they might have that in their thespian uh archives, maybe at the at the high school. But wouldn't that be fun to get Jefferson?

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Wouldn't that be fun to give you a chance to recreate that role so we can do it now or these years later?

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Yeah, yeah, I might even you know hit the notes right. Like acting a little bit in school, and did you pursue that afterward in college? Uh no, no, I I did that in high school for about two and a half years. The some musicals, some some plays. Uh, and then I didn't, but on the other hand, I was a teacher, and so there's a certain amount of um theatrics, and I mean, after all, the it's a captive audience, but I kind of want them not to run out.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

What's funny? I was a teacher also, and yeah, that it was kind of nice things. And the the thing was they had to laugh at your jokes, or you know, or it would it would affect the grade. But what's very interesting with your background, uh, that you also were in the science area, but you actually did did you teach some theater in in school as well?

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Uh well, the one I um I was I was teaching it at the University of Nebraska at Omaha uh in in chemistry uh as a professor. And so I am a professor, although not Professor Hill, but uh um you're Professor Hill to me. Oh, good, good. And then we we moved, so I gave up that position and volunteered in middle schools and elementary schools, uh, because that's where my kids were. And then they went off to a smaller high school, and I volunteered there, and they then they one day just asked if I could teach a theater class because they knew I had some kind of background anyway. Uh, and I said, sure. And and then they said, Well, would you like to teach you know some other things? And that's how I ended up doing that for uh, I don't know, 11 or so years. Um but yeah, I got to teach theater. That that was that was great.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

And when you were teaching theater, did you also uh direct uh some of the production stuff? Uh all of them. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Yeah, we had we had two a year and then we started to do three because we did a summer one. Um and yeah, it was it was great to see some of these uh uh not exactly wallflower kids, but uh you know, sort of subdued personalities, but not on the stage. It was it it was really interesting. Uh uh I thoroughly enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Uh let me ask you a question. I ask a lot of times actors who become directors, do you have a preference as to acting or directing personally?

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Um personally, yeah. Well, I mean, I like being on the stage, uh, but like I said, it was it was really enjoyable doing doing the directing of at least of the kids. But directing older people like us, you know, who who knows?

SPEAKER_01 7:58

But uh, so you haven't done any directing since those school days?

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Not not since the school days, yeah. Yeah, and that was well, I retired from that, and that was more than 10 years ago by now.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Because funny, George, I ask that question of a lot of actors who become directors, and I asked them what do you prefer, the acting or directing? Many times they tell me directing, because the truth is they don't have to memorize the lines that way. Let the kids memorize them or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Do you ever see yourself going back into directing? Well, oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah, like again, yeah, yeah, I had a good time doing it. Um, I think the kids enjoyed it. So okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

So let's fast forward if we we would then. So you both had your professional careers, then all of a sudden um you find out that SAT's doing this production of seniors. And Ann, if you talk a little bit about the idea behind that, because it's kind of sort's unique in this, it hasn't been done too often. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Yeah, I mean, I I have to admit that when I um tried out, I didn't realize it was a senior production because I I was gonna try out for Ms. Peru or the chorus or whatever. And when they called, you know, me for Marion, I was like, you realize I'm 68, right? And I'm not like this thin ingenue or whatever. Um, no, no, no, you don't understand this as a senior production. So like, oh, horse of a different color. Okay, great. So um, but you know, since I've just become so jazzed by, you know, this whole concept of a senior production and just so heartened by how um, you know, all of the cast has really embraced it. And you, I George, I I don't you probably noticed. I mean, people have, I don't see any difference in their energy level or anything from you know, a young, young people, um, you know, younger people. And so it's like it's like these flowers, this flower garden kind of when as soon as they go on stage, you know, uh blooming kind of. And um, you know, it kind of reminded me of, you know, you know, Pablo Casal, uh, the the cellist, um, he there was a story about him, how he was in his older age, he had a lot of arthritis and and um, you know, I think emphysema and other things. But when he would sit at the piano, his his fingers would unlock and his spine would straighten and he, you know, and I I you know, I I kind of think of us that way. Like, you know, once we get on that stage, all of that youthful energy kind of comes back, you know, and who knows how many knee replacements we have among us, but um, it just doesn't seem to matter. And I think that's really exciting. It I mean, it is the first time, as I've now understood it, um, that they're doing uh one of these senior shows. This is MTI, the um, I forget what the music is, what does that stand for? Music Theater International International, thank you. Um, and so they, I think a few years ago came up with uh a roster of a few shows for seniors. And this is the time, this is the first time they're licensing it to a production company in in western North Carolina. So I think that's really exciting. I hope people will come, you know, just to see what we can what we can do.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

But the fun part about this, I imagine, and I'm looking forward to seeing it, is that aside from you playing your role and George playing his role, you also have seniors playing kids' roles. Like they're there, it tends to be involved in the world.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

Yeah. Yeah, our guy, the guy who's playing Winthrop, um, Gil uh Henry, is just he he he just looks like a little kid. I mean, I I think uh Gil's like 65 or something, or he's somewhere in there, and you know, and and also um Jan uh uh uh Robbins who plays you know uh Amaryllis, because I think she looks kind of like a little girl too. So, and both of them are just great.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Um Eric Sedergren uh plays uh uh you know um sort of a delinquent youth. Oh, yeah, that's right. And he's one of the taller people in the cast, one thing. So yeah, it's an interesting, interesting mix.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

And I'm finally with both Jan and Eric, and anxious to see this, you know, how they're gonna carry playing 12-year-olds or however old they are, and it's gonna be uh fun, fun to watch them. Um it's tough. I mean, and not tough, but it's probably a challenge for them. But they carry it off, um, George, that they do look like they're young, or you can believe they're young. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

You know, I think if you if you know the audience, of course, is gonna have to suspend this belief a little bit, but but but also um, you know, I I I keep telling myself when I'm feeling you know less confident that you know, if I'm if I just think about being Marian, that the rest will, you know, the audience will believe it somehow, even though I'm older, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

So well, let me ask you then, since we're talking about it, or I'll I'll go back to George for a second here. For the two people out there who don't know the story of Music Man, if you could kind of uh give George the reader's digest version of what the story is about, keeping it under like 25 minutes, if you can summarize under 25 minutes. Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

We'll be out by 10. Uh yeah, that well, let's see. Um there is a central character, Harold Hill, and he's a con man, and he's done more than one kind of con. But in this particular instance, he's doing his um his band, his his children's band con. And um he comes into town, and there's uh there's some other salesmen who come in also. Um one of them, they don't know they haven't met him, but one of them knows what he does, and he's bad, you know, bad news for all the other all the other um salesmen. So um he starts counting the the people, and that's when you get this big number of uh trouble in River City and uh almost a revival meeting kind of feeling, and then also 76 trombones, he's still working with these people, and you see kind of how he works on a couple of um uh a couple of levels. He's he's he tries to latch on to the music teacher, in other words, Anne as Marion, and um and kind of keep conning her, but that that becomes harder. For one thing, she she's not that easily conned, and uh it turns out that uh she looks him up, finds out well he's he's not what he says, but she doesn't tell she doesn't turn him in. In fact, she helps him, and and and toward the end, as things keep going, um the citizens are up in arms, they're going to chase him, and he's uh decided he he can't leave because of Anne and because of Winthrop. Uh some nice scenes at the very end there. Um and he stays, they grab him, they handcuff him. Um this ragtag bunch of people come in, and he he tells them, okay, think, you know, and and he gives a downbeat and they play terribly, but the townspeople are going, that's my Davy. That's that's him playing in my clarity, you know, and all this kind of stuff. And so, you know, he's he um he rejuvenates the town in all's well.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

And he still just listened to it because what a great story, you know, it's such a sweet story. But let me ask you, Ann, in terms of uh George said you you researched them. Uh, this was I assume before the internet and AI. There was no to research them.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

You had to research what the the characters you mean?

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Oh no, no, the the when you were researching uh Henry Hill, you didn't have AI, you didn't have internet then, right? You know, you couldn't just go on the computer and find out who he was. Are you asking George or since you were the researcher, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

Oh, uh, oh, uh do you mean oh the character Marion? Okay, sorry. Took me a minute to catch up. Okay. Uh yes, yeah. She doesn't, she did not have AI to rely on. So she has to find it in a book, a journal at the state, Indiana State Educational Journal 1890 to 1910, um, to be exact, with um a big large brown volume with black corners. Um yeah. But um, as George said, you know, there's a point after we see sort of the Winthrop miracle where he sings, you know, Wells Fargo, um, that's when Mirian comes around and she's just about to turn him in, right? I know I'm giving away stuff. It is it is music, man. So I if they people haven't seen it, then they've been living under a rock. So uh uh, but that's kind of the big, I think the big point for for her is her big turning point.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Well, let me ask you, and in terms of people saying this, aside from family and friends, obviously, who is this appropriate for? Who should who should see this show? Anybody.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

I think anybody. I mean, it's um, I don't know, you know, it's funny that you should ask that because a friend of mine was just asking me, would this be appropriate for her six-year-old? Right. And I said, well, it depends on the six-year-old these days, right? But um, I mean, there is, you know, one scene, Charlie Cow, who's played by um Marty Flynn. Um, he he and I have a kind of a, you know, a scene where Marion has to kind of seduce him in order to delay him, because by now she's in love with Harold and she's got to save Harold, you know, from you know, them them catching up to him or whatever, because Charlie's gonna spill the beans. So um that's the only thing that which I think would probably go over a six-year-old's head anyway, probably. But um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

So as you're describing it, it seems it's almost perfect, even for young kids, I think, like it, especially because of Winthrop.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

Um yeah, they could identify with him, and then there's you know, the whole the band and the you know, I yeah, I I I think so.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Yeah, you're just describing it seems like you know, it's a well, I'll go back to George in terms of how would you describe the the show? It's uh musical, obviously, but how else would you describe it? Uh uh it's a fun.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

I'm sorry. How would I what? How would you describe it? I mean it's it's oh oh oh well um there's a lot of music, uh catchy tunes, uh upbeat. There's a barbershop quartet, which is is excellent, by the way. Um there are individual solos. Um Ann has a beautiful voice. Uh so that's worth you know coming to see. Um these people are good actors and actresses. It's um the story is pretty easy to follow. Um I don't know. I I find it uplifting and just you know, it's I don't know. You know, just to describe it, I don't want to say feel good show, but you know, I feel pretty good after I see it.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

I just listen to it. It it sounds as well. Talk George if you would too, George, and I'll go back to Ann. But in terms of um this being a senior production, it's a little shorter than the movie and the show. What have they done with it? Or even the songs, are they shorter? How do they do that? Do they edit it or is it a condensed version where you get the whole story? What's the idea of the senior production?

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Are you asking me?

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Yeah, there. Take it. What's the idea behind it?

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Well, so it is an abridged version. It's it's about half the the the length of the the musical as originally written. Um there are some songs that were nixed in the abridgment that I was sorry to see go. And I think audience will be sorry to, but because Marion the Librarian is such a famous song. And then there's other songs that um, you know, they fill the character in a little more, like White Knight was taken out, and there's a beautiful song um that Marion sings in the original, where she can't tell Harold Hill how she feels. So her mother says, Tell tell him how you feel, and she has to sing, I can only tell him in my dreams, you know, that kind of thing. So um it's sad to see those go. But on the other hand, you know, I think for the audience. The predominant audience might be older people, I don't know, that come to it.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

I I hope you know people of all generations will want to come, but um you know, so having it be shorter, you know, uh might well it's funny you said that because as I get older, I like shorter, you know, it's like exactly, exactly. Especially uh and maybe before your time, but when they used to have like three-hour three act shows, you know, dramas, three and a half hour shows. So I love it when I see a show now. Even on this one, is there an intermission?

SPEAKER_03 22:39

Um no, don't think so. Okay, unless something catastrophic happens to one of the cast members or something. No.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Because I love that. I love it. Short, no intermission, you're in and out kind of quickly, which is kind of nice. So the whole show runs about how long?

SPEAKER_03 22:55

I think it's a maybe a little over an hour, right, George? Um it's it I go by, you know, I used to write screenplay, so it's like I go by one minute per pay per page, and I think it's about 65 pages or something. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

And talk about that uh, and since you're up, and then I'll ask George as well. But was it difficult for you to even the convinced version, you have the lead, is that difficult to memorize the part or uh to get it down?

SPEAKER_03 23:25

You know, uh I was terrified about that when I first you know started doing it. I I was off book probably a couple of weeks before rehearsal started, um, just because I was so terrified. Never done before. Um so and I used an app to to help me learn the lines that kind of feeds the lines to you, but but also I think I spent many, many, many, many hours studying the text. I mean, literally every word and breaking it down into beats. And somehow, and I mean, I'm very analytical because I come from you know, uh analytical career, but um so doing that and finding meaning in in the arc of the whole story, the arc of each character's you know, each character's arc. I used to write screenplays and things too, and I've directed film. So to me, when you start to really break it all down and you you find arcs for groups of people, arcs for character, etc. Then the the story, then remembering the lines is easier because you know each line has a meaning behind it. And so that that's when things really clicked in for me, was when I really felt like I understood it well.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

And George, I'll I'll go back to you and ask the same kind of question. So you've done other theater uh as well, but this is this is one of the largest role roles you've had, or you've had larger roles, George?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Um I've had comparable roles. Okay, yeah. So but I also wasn't you know 77.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

So uh yeah, uh and George has an insane number of wines to remote.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Um you mentioned that I'm from Iowa. So as far as the songs are concerned, I I already knew a lot of these, the whole things, because some of the songs were squashed down for for this, for this uh uh uh this particular version, uh which is fine, you know, you still get an idea of what's going on. But uh so that helped. But also, I just I mean, I record it with my own voice and then I leave myself out, and then I go back and it's it's much like the app that Ann mentioned. There's an interesting thing about the whole idea of the arc, because in the movie, which is an hour and a half or something, you know, that's that's a rainbow, right? I mean, that goes from one end here clear over there. Well, in an hour, you got to get everything in under that rainbow, and like this, it's more like a golden arch and some basic thing, or you know, I mean, it's yeah, you you you you almost have to act more so you can get the point across that yes, they are falling in love, yes, uh Winthrop is changing. I mean, it's it but it's it's very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Before you auditioned or took the part, did you go back and revisit the movie? Or have you have you done it?

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Me? Uh I I don't like to do that with something that I might be in. Because then I'd seen, then I feel like I'm trying to be Robert Preston, for example, or or whoever it happens to be. So I don't generally do that.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

I I might go listen to the music to to um you know help fix some some notes and things, but when you were teaching when you were teaching drama, did your students want to see stuff before they they did the show, or you discouraged it?

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Um I don't know that I discouraged it or encouraged it. Um you know, I I I don't I don't think I did, but I just personally don't like to do that.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

So and the same question, did you go back and and revisit Music Man or have you?

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Yeah, I did. And um you because for one thing, um you know, I I've always loved musicals, and but Music Man was just not really on my radar so much. Um you know, I there's ones that I just love so much more. But now that I have, you know, so I kind of almost had to go look at the movie to kind of even, you know, but now I kind of with George, I you know, I I I I kind of think it's maybe not the best idea. For one thing, I one thing Janice um Vertucci um uh why can't I remember her last name all of a sudden? Schreiber. Is it Schreiber or Shreiber? Schreiber, right? Um, you know, we were doing a scene, George, you know, the romantic scene were at the bridge, the footbridge, and um I kind of wanted us, you know, coming from a distance and you know, and and and and Janice wasn't sort of buying that for a while, and I didn't know exactly why, and I kept pressing, and finally she said, because it's kind of cliche from the 50s. And you know, I thought, God, she's absolutely right, dead on right about that. And then I didn't argue with her anymore after that, you know. So that's one one danger of you know, watching these 50s movie renditions, and also a movie is, you know, having come from film myself, you know, it is so different from theater. So I'm I kind of think I wouldn't do that again, maybe, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Let me ask you whoever wants to take it. We've talked about several of the people involved in the show, which you mentioned since you mentioned that the um director's Janice, who's just um going to do a terrific job with that, and then also talk about you have two other people really helping out, or three we'll we'll mention, but you have the music director and the uh choreographer, or who?

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Yeah, well, Patricia Sands is the um musical director, and I can speak a little bit uh about her because I I took uh voice lessons for her from her as well, and she's just amazing. She has some specialties in older voices, she's a vocologist and um you know, disabled voices and so forth. So um, not that we're I I mean, but we're older voices, and there are some issues, you know, as people get older, their voices get lower and different things. So she's and she's just amazing. Um, uh George, maybe you can speak about Gillian.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Yeah, no question. Um yeah, I like the the style that she uh brings to all the musical numbers, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

And you were talking also, Jillian's role was what in this? Jillian.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

She's our choreographer, Jillian Adams. Yeah, she's our choreographer. And I haven't, you know, George, you've been she you've experienced her choreography more than I have, because um, I I think just that one little part of Shapoopy I do, but you know, I don't do anything else dancing wise.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

And then George, you and I talked off there a little bit about, but if you want to mention the uh stage manager, give a shout out to that person.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah, um uh yeah, very good stage manager. She's you know, giving us lines if we if we don't remember where we are and various things like that. Yeah, it's uh uh well we call her Fergie, uh, but it's uh Fernanda uh Guerrero. Yeah, Guerrero, yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Yeah, and she's just I think I told you both, I've seen her as an actor, she's just a very talented actor, too, as well. Um, and so I I really appreciate you mentioning that because the stage manager has such an important role and oftentimes oftentimes they're overlooked. And so so I don't overlook something. Let me ask, um, I guess first of all, I'll go back to um the uh important information, Anne. If people want to see the show, when is it going to run and how do they get tickets?

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Well, it it runs from July 30th to August 2nd. Um, there's a 7:30 performance uh July 30th, uh 7:30 July 31st, and then I think it's a two o'clock and 7:30 on August 1st, and then I think it's 4 or is it 4 or 4 30? I don't remember which. And 7:30 on August 2nd, Sunday night. And um they can get tickets by, I guess, calling the box office at Sart. You might have the number for that, Blaine, uh, from the press release there. Um, and it's the Southern Appalachian Repertory Theater in Morris Hill.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

I'll mention that too. I'll probably put it in the um the blurb about it, but it's also um, I have it somewhere, sortplace, I think.org is it? Or dot com. I'm sorry, sortplace dot com. I'll check that.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

But okay. You probably have that.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

But the the website's very handy too. Yeah, what is that? Do you have it handy, George? Uh um whenever I want it, I just do Sart Marshall. I have it. I I just looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

I I I beat you to it, and and I cheated. I did you I did use the internet for that. Oh, it's so if people want to get tickets, as uh George mentioned, the best bet is just go to saltplays.com. It's also the phone number, and they're very good. You can take orders on the phone, is 828-689-1232. And I'll also put that in the uh information about the show. But let me ask you both one final question. So we finished uh Music Man in um early August. Any future plans, George, in terms of a next play or next thing you're going to be in?

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Um, I don't have any right now, but um, but then again, uh I didn't expect there to be a music man senior. So you know I'll just I'll just keep looking around and seeing things that are there, and it would be uh it would be very pleasant to work with several of these people, and you are among those, and so you know I'm hoping that paths cross again, uh, but I don't have anything definite right now.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

How about if not definite, how about a dream roll? Do you have a dream roll you've always wanted to do?

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Um wow. Well, let me see, five, ten, fifty. No. Uh the the I think I mean I if if the if the music man goes well and Sart would like to you know try another one of these senior things, I think one of them is guys and dolls. Okay, same thing. And there's well, yeah, there's a couple of things in there that are that are pretty good, though they may be out of my range, but you know, we can work on that. Um you know, so that's that's maybe one thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

And if I can ask you, um Darham, so future plans, do you have anything lined up after music man?

SPEAKER_03 34:57

No, I don't. I'm just taking it, you know, one thing at a time. Um, I kind of started working on a novel, so I might put put that in the forefront for a while. But um one of the other um, but I was gonna look to, you know, be on the lookout for auditions for another senior show because I know um they also have singing in the rain, which is uh is on their roster, and that is one of my favorite movies, although I think I'm I'm a a lyric soprano and she's like a mezzo from a Kathy Selden, but yeah, yeah. So I wish they would do sound of music, that's my all-time favorite.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Well, they did they did the the uh whole fur whole version, they did it at Asheville Community Theater about a year or two years ago. They did a great job, yeah. They did a great job with it. But let me ask you both another uh venue for both of you. Have you done any readers' theater? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Any what?

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Readers theater.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Oh, readers theater, no, but I did take uh just recently a reader's theater class at Ali. Right. Um so that's something I could see doing too.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

You took it with my friend Ellen Pappas? Ellen Ellen Ellen Ellen was the one in charge of it at Ali. Ellen Pappis. Oh, I I well I might have met her and not we yeah, so um, but yeah, you'll see this area has become very popular for readers theater. Almost everybody's doing it. I see you both doing that. Anyway, guys, I'd like to thank you both for being my guest on this edition of Blaine Squirrel uh podcast. I'd also like to thank my producer uh Kim Jones. I'd like to say that hopefully, well, no, I uh hopefully I'll see you. I will see you because yours truly is in it as well.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

The show I was gonna say, we didn't have a chance to say, you know, your fans need to come and watch you as a conductor. So which night, what night or I'll be the interviewer now, what which night are you um gonna perform?

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Um you know I'm doing it the Saturday night and Sunday afternoon. So uh just but but uh you have to tell them, George, not to blink because uh you know I'm all on and off in the beginning, and then after that, um see me at the at the curtain call. Uh hopefully I'll hopefully all be invited to participate in that. Good. Thanks, guys. I look forward to seeing you in the very near future. I appreciate it. My pleasure very much.