EP:44 - Entrepreneur Inspiration - Elizabeth Pipko on Leveraging Community for Social Change

Elizabeth Pipko's  journey has taken her from the glitz of the modeling world to the gritty arena of politics. Elizabeth's dedication to non-profit work shines through as she discusses the role of the Owl app in building communities and nurturing future leaders. Her multifaceted career has included stints in modeling, political campaigning, and she is also at the helm of a digital Holocaust Museum. With a master's in NGO leadership, Elizabeth is on a mission to make a tangible impact on societal issues, such as homelessness, while imparting her wisdom and experiences to inspire change.

Throughout the episode, the hosts and Elizabeth Pipko cover various topics that intersect the realms of digital innovation, community building, and social activism. The conversation highlights the cultural shift toward digital communication and its effects on personal relationships and society. The episode also touches on the intricacies of networking in a digital age, the controvercial role of AI in non-profits, and the importance of authentic connections. 

Connect with Elizabeth - https://www.instagram.com/elizabethpipko/?hl=en

Three Questions this episode can answer:
1. What insights are shared about merging careers in the fashion industry with social activism?
2. How does the utilization of digital applications contribute to community development and the nurturing of future leaders?
3. What are the potential hurdles and benefits of establishing connections in the digital era as discussed in the podcast?

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Transcript

00:00 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I think the more we innovate and develop, the I don't know if lazy is the right word, but the more we as human beings step back. I think that's a dangerous place to be. 

00:16 - Jason Hill (Host)
Welcome back to the Owl Podcast. I'm joined by my co-host, ellie Sandra, and we have an exciting guest for you today. But before we get into our guests, there's some phenomenal things happening on the Owl app. Every single week we have new experts joining. Last week we had the CEO of GrantWatch and she hit the bet, ellie we said that if she took 10 calls within seven days that we would offer her an opportunity to use this studio, and she won the last two. Yes. 

00:46 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Two S3 at one, Finally. 

00:47 - Jason Hill (Host)
Finally they're understanding the value, but most importantly, the amount of impact that is happening from these conversations and these relationships, Because she's at the point of her career, she's in her 70s. She just wants to give back. She just launched her book and it was really cool. She reached out to me. I called her the Queen of Grants. 

01:04
Naturally things come out of my mouth during podcasts and during the Shreem Tank podcast or other podcasts I just naturally said that because she's so knowledgeable. She was raised in New York and she just impacted so many people, helping them get grants. So I was like you're the Queen of Grants. And then she put me part of the book and it's cool On Amazon. I'm like the first testimonial, which is really unique, and I left a review as well on Amazon. So it's really really awesome to see people gravitating to the platform and realizing it's not about money, it's purely about forming relationships, and a lot of people in their 60s 70s don't care at all about money. They just want to see the next generation really grow and gain the knowledge that they have. So kick things off. Why don't you talk a little bit about today's guests? 

01:47 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm excited to have Elizabeth Pipko here. She's done a variety of different things in her career, so she is a model. She's also a political operative and I love chatting with people like this, just like myself, like you, who have different backgrounds, you know different interests. So let's just kick it off, elizabeth. Tell us a little bit more about yourself in detail. 

02:16 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Okay, how much time do we have? 

02:18 - Jason Hill (Host)
I mean well don't, don't worry about it, these two girls you saying that they just, they just, they don't, they don't like hearing that I go for like three, four hours straight. They're like no, no, we got to get out of here in an hour. 

02:30 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
We do have a clock there. Well, we'll keep an eye on it, but you know, we'll just let things flow, it's all good. 

02:35 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Okay, I've done a lot of things which is probably the best way to describe it just trying to be a part of every industry I can be a part of and reach the top of that industry. I've written books. I have obviously modeled, like you said, I've worked in politics on and off not involved right now, but I've done that as well at the highest level in a presidential campaign. I run a Holocaust Museum, a digital Holocaust Museum. I just got my master's last year in NGO leadership. I do a lot of nonprofit work, so just like a mix of a lot of different crazy things, but it's a lot of fun. 

03:08 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
And what would you say is your focus right now, at the moment? Because I know that's a lot, but like myself, you know I bounce from this to music, to meditation, like all different things. But it's kind of like finding that balance of some days you're focused on one thing, some days another. So what? What would you say you're working on right right, this minute? 

03:27 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I definitely don't have one. It's more of like 4am to 7am is one thing. Okay, yeah 7am to 9am is a different one. Cool yeah, consistency is key, I think, and when I take like two days off of anything, I forget how to do it. So every day is a little bit of something. That's awesome. 

03:42 - Jason Hill (Host)
And I read your mission. It's change the world. It's super simple, yeah, so kind of share you know more details of what that really means to you. 

03:50 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
All of us don't realize how lucky we are to be on earth. I often am guilty of that myself. Also very lucky to be in this country. My parents gave up everything to emigrate here to the United States and I don't believe that I should die without leaving my mark on the planet. That's all. 

04:05 - Jason Hill (Host)
Is there? Is there something that comes to mind that you want to invent and really focus on the next 10 years? You know, sometimes like, obviously with me it's owl. I'm like it's going to happen through conversation and relationships. And that aha moment happened when COVID hit right Me being a financial service professional, you know, I left New York, I got down to South Florida seven years ago and I said, okay, I'm going to give it everything I got in the financial service business, but then I started podcasting and then also, and I started listening to all these entrepreneurs and it really encouraged me to go after my dreams, which is to make bigger impact in this world. Leave in my mark, right. And and then I'm like now, now's the time. Everyone's at home, no one's having conversations anymore, it's all through texts, it's all through DMs. I said, what, what a great time to start a mobile platform where people could just connect easier, eliminate all the friction no different than what Uber did to all the taxis in New York City, right? So what do you see on the forecast? 

04:58 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
A lot of things. I'd say top of the list in terms of next 10 years is getting started on the fight to end homelessness. It's something I'm really passionate about. I've worked in the nonprofit space and the political space and I think at some point you have to go to the point where it's realistic to put those two together and actually make a plan. And and one of the worst things that's happening in our country like knowing that we're sitting here right now and there are children on the street doesn't make sense to me and I think we are focusing on the wrong things. When that's going on, it is mind boggling right. 

05:25 - Jason Hill (Host)
You're like we have all this technology today and just like things just don't move along. You know everything gets so sucked into meetings and then more meetings about the meetings, and then agreements, then attorneys and you know I'm literally seeing that over at FAU. I do a lot of work with them and we're just trying to have a new podcast studio there that we were supposed to get on January 1st with a student audience and we have all the students listening to our podcast in the classroom and some in the class in the actual podcast itself. But it was supposed to launch in January and then now more people are getting involved because they see how cool it is and I'm like time out, like we were supposed to launch this, and they make things so complex sometimes. But when we look at like what's on Amazon, it's like when you're talking about homelessness, it's like homelessness. You know you could literally order things right to your home. You know that sometimes come that same day and it's just. It's just amazing that we can't figure this thing out. 

06:18 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yeah, and I feel like I saw it when COVID hit. I was like people are going to wake up because they're seeing how you know how tragic the world can be in the blink of an eye. And I think we actually went the other way. We got more divided, more crazy, almost more lazy at some points, and people just forgot how to function. 

06:32 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I was actually like during COVID joined an organization called Changing Lives. It's actually here in Boca and it's like to help the fight for homelessness and basically like I love the program because it doesn't just say here's free food, like buy, it's actually. It actually if, if they want to choose to work, it'll. Basically it gives them housing, it gives them job opportunities and then a chance to like actually move up in that career. It's like, hey, you can come join our program today and get money and get a career and housing right here right now. So I think that like actually giving purpose and incentive is not just like giving people free things is definitely like one solution. But I've just been thinking we asked this to a lot of our guests that's sort of one of your main goals. I've been curious if you've thought about like how AI could be implemented in this whole cause. 

07:35 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Honestly, I am not a fan of technology, very much not a fan of AI, and I think the more we innovate and develop, the I don't know if lazy is the right word, but the more we, as human beings, step back. I think that's a dangerous place to be and I wish, instead of wondering how AI could help us, we tried to think about how our neighbors can help us, if we could help our neighbors. I think we forgot that a long time ago. 

07:58 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I like that answer. 

08:01 - Jason Hill (Host)
It's interesting because I just saw a TikTok video that's going viral right now. That's speaking about this and it was talking about the millennial generation is the last one that you know. We we had to go over a friend's house and we had to play video games together, right, and now we're seeing video games being played at home and you're speaking to someone on the other end with a headset and, just you know, jumping up and like high fiving and like cheering when you're in a room together is so different and we're seeing all these technologies like zoom and it's like everything's like oh, there's no need to meet, let's just jump on a zoom or let's just jump on a phone call. And it didn't work like that. When I was in New York City, you know, I had to go to a client's house and sit through two hours of traffic on the BQE or LIE, and I got there and they were very thankful, they valued me, coming all the way and then showing up on time showing up on time. 

08:53
And even when I didn't show up on time, there were cell phones back then. I would just call and say, look, you know, you know the LIE again. I thought it was going to take an hour and 30 minutes. It says two and a half hours somehow, and and they said that's okay, jason, we completely, they all understood and they value that. I just give them a ring and today it's okay to just Not show up, it's okay not to say that you're running late. And it's interesting because technology is there to make it easier. 

09:18
Yet People aren't doing that. And we've done some studies at FAU because we've done owl in the classroom setting and they, they, they say right off the bat they don't want to call someone on now. They say they'd rather Google it or or rather go on to YouTube to watch it. It's a big fear to call someone they do not know. So I agree it starts with just, you know, challenging students at an early age say, hey, you know, let's put this, you know, in the curriculum which we're doing at FAU and it's really interesting See like them actually call someone that they did not know and open up opportunities. 

09:50
But then that kind of goes right over to dating. Right, because if you're, if you're uncomfortable, let's speak to someone through an app where you don't have their phone number and there's reviews Well, how are you gonna go up to you know a female at a bar that you do not know? Right, and then eventually you know there's less marriages, there's less reproduction and it could cause a major. I mean, elon Musk talks about this all the time, right, yeah, could be some multiple layers to this, of course, during Peterson talks about it. 

10:17 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I just asked this because my friend was texting me last night and sent me this article that says Elon Musk is like there will be zero jobs left and I was like I think that's a little extreme. But she called me. She's like freaking out, like we need a plan for when AI takes over the world and I was like I feel like we're gonna be dead by then. 

10:34 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
But we'll see I'm more scared of like the robots killing us. Yeah, yeah, but. 

10:38 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I want to ask you more about, like your personal journey. I'm curious. You know you do all these things. You, I'm assuming, went to college like what was was like modeling the first thing you got into. And then you got into politics. Like how did, how did all this come about? 

10:55 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
So I always say one of the most important things my mom taught me growing up was man-mix plans and God laughs. So really everything that's happened to me didn't like I think I've worked my butt off any time an opportunity has presented itself, but they've always kind of come to me in the sense that I mean I fight for them but they're always right there. For modeling. I was kind of discovered on the street Nice politics. I sent a letter and got hired when I probably wasn't supposed to like hey it's. You always have to put you know yourself out there and try, but I feel like once you do that it's always like what you're meant to do is right there. So it's never been one. First it's always been trying to grow as a human being and things just kind of appearing. 

11:34
Yeah but not letting go of the last thing. So kind of wanting to conquer everything that comes my way but never letting go of the last one, like just continuing to build, you know. 

11:42 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, definitely. And have you like ever thought about sort of combining the modeling with more of like the sort of, I guess, political campaigns or Just campaigns to help the broader world? 

11:57 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I collaborated with this brand. I shot as the base of the campaign, but then we actually collaborated on a clothing line together. It's four dresses in my line. It's with a steam couture and basically we're taking 10% of sales From the four collections and sending them to women in Israel who were impacted by the October 7th attacks. So yeah, always putting things together and trying to change the world. 

12:19 - Jason Hill (Host)
Yeah, well, I want to talk a little bit about seeing around the corner, right, because you talked about opportunities coming your way, but also it takes an individual to execute and see the opportunities around the corner, and I see it as a major issue. We've done some tick tock campaigns. We've done some Instagram campaigns where we've reached out to influencers and there's literally money, money sitting there on a platter Saying, hey, do you want to work with us here, some money, and we get no response. Right, and I'm sitting here like do like, why are they not seeing around the corner, even taking a meeting or responding back to the message? And I sense that you're really good at that, right, you, you could tell where there is opportunities out there and you were very responsive, of course, when we reached out I should say when Ellie reached out. 

13:01 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
She's the voice. 

13:02 - Jason Hill (Host)
the voice, no queen, yeah, she is she is, but kind of explain what you do, what's the secret, and then also what others should really be doing right and opening, walking through doors that are open, closing the ones behind you that don't open up to opportunities. 

13:16 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Of course, it's complicated because I'm not on tick tock, I'm not a lot of things people think of me like I'm out there on social media kind of has I have to be, but every minute that I don't have to be. I'm not and I'm in the real world. I think a lot of people, especially my age, are not in the real world. They're solely on tick tock. So when they get a message, for example, and it's not a brand that they understand right away, they don't even open their mind to like, oh, this could turn into something. So I feel like it's kind of the what we talked about with the technology people are. I blaze is the wrong word, there's a word for it, but it's like maybe program. 

13:48 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
They're a little close-minded. They're a little anxious. 

13:51 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
They don't like being outside of their comforts on, whereas before social media, everything was outside of your comfort zone, like you had to leave the house and experience things and that made you better. And I think too many people are so comfortable sitting at home on their screen, like looking at the same screen every day, and anything that makes them 1% mildly uncomfortable they just they can't deal with so explain, when you say Getting out in the real world right, because that can be multiple things you go a lot of networking events. 

14:13 - Jason Hill (Host)
Did you go a lot of dinner events with friends, like what? What do you mean by getting out? 

14:19 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Because you know there's the business world, yeah, and then there's the friendship side of things, which leads to both often right, not good at the networking, nor the friends, actually, ironically, but I would say for me, anytime an opportunity presents itself, I think to myself if social media died tomorrow, like would this don't matter to me? I think too many people do things so they can post about it, yes, and don't realize that no one's reporting on it. You're not changing anyone's life, you're not helping your own bank account or anything else, so it's literally irrelevant. Like it looks cool for the hundred people that you believe stalk you, but it doesn't actually change the world or your own life. So if social media died literally tomorrow, they banned all of these apps, would you still be doing ABC and D? I think that's number one for me. Anytime an opportunity kind of comes my way. 

15:01 - Jason Hill (Host)
Let's dive deeper, explain some opportunities like that you go after, like there's so many events in South Florida. You know every single email I open, there's another event, there's another guest speaker, there's events you have to pay for. So what are the some? What are some of the things that you go after and take advantage of that Down here in South Florida? 

15:19 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Let's say yeah, again, honestly not good at the events. I don't like it. I hate most people. I Don't have to New York or over here Like I, just people kind of suck Okay. But if I know someone somewhere and I can learn from them, I want to be there, not because I want to take a picture and prove that I was at them, because I want to listen to that person speak and I think that's the difference people find the events that they want to post from Versus the events they still want to be out of. 

15:43
Their phone was off. 

15:44 - Jason Hill (Host)
So you go after more than one of ones, then right, you go to them because you see like a specific individual that you want to build a Relationship with yeah, or even just listen to. 

15:51 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Like my dad taught me growing up, you can learn from everyone. Even if you disagree with someone on politics and this and anything, you can find something small to learn from every single person you meet. So if there's an opportunity for me to actually grow in any way, I want to take it. If it's just so I can put on a nice dress and take a picture I can take that at home we are so similar in this. 

16:09 - Jason Hill (Host)
We love going to events, but we make sure that I mean we like people I like, just so. 

16:13 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
That's the difference. 

16:15 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, I like in person with people. Like the social media thing drives me crazy and I'm trying to get better at it, but I definitely we both say that we've gotten better connections always just from meeting people and hanging out then posting a picture. Of course there are some benefits to social media, like getting you on here, but it's definitely not the number one tool for us, for sure. 

16:47 - Jason Hill (Host)
And I built so many relationships with people that have tiny social followings. Right, often, everyone is basing everything off metrics. Today, right, like, oh, why would I touch base with that person? I'm like the person that has 300 followers there on LinkedIn knows everyone. They have a gazillion people on their cell phone. They just absolutely hate social media. It's not their thing. 

17:09 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
And, as I've interviewed over 300 people between this show and the shrimp tank, I've noticed a trend Most people do not care about their social media, or, like you always said too, the most successful people you said who have like a million dollar businesses like either barely have one or someone else is running it, and there's like three pictures on there. 

17:27 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
When I meet someone and they don't have it automatically, I want to get to know that person Because that means they're better than me. 

17:32 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Like automatically, like I can learn. They don't need it. That's like they're at the next level, like I don't need this. 

17:36 - Jason Hill (Host)
I have enough connections, so when you peel back the onion right of successful entrepreneurs, it's through relationships, right. Every week I hear the same thing all the time that someone got lucky. Our guest today on the other show is the first African-American Marine that opened up a Scotch brand and he said I'm the luckiest man alive. But you know something? He was a character, he was so genuine, he talked so well and it really helped his entire brand get off the ground. Was that one relationship? All it takes sometimes is being there for someone, picking up a phone call, meeting someone for a cup of coffee, and not always doing it because of 100 likes Right. And that's what occurred today. And I was like you're not lucky, you're a genuine human being, right. 

18:29
And it's now led to an opportunity. 

18:31 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
And social media Like to actually make some kind of impression with someone that changes their view of you or makes them want to invest in you, or anything like that. It's virtually impossible over Instagram DM. You know that doesn't happen. You need to meet in person and show them who you are. 

18:44 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I have a feeling also that you're going to like Owl just because you don't really have to do that small talk, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let me like this stuff you don't really care about because it starts in 10-minute increments, so it's very much. People know that, even if it's a dollar, they know that you are paying to speak with them and they want to just get to the point and you can ask them a question and they don't want to waste your time and you know same if you're on the receiving end where it's just like let's cut to the chase. Hi, nice to meet you Go. 

19:16 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
So I feel like for that reason, that is my preferred way to get to the calls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 

19:22 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah. So I think, Jason, I think we're getting ready to maybe make a few calls. 

19:29 - Tanya (Caller)
We are On the app. 

19:31 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Actually, I have someone in mind that I want to call for her, but you can go first. I'm just going to pick on. 

19:37 - Jason Hill (Host)
Tanya. Right, we could see her background right here, and she's $3 for 10 minutes and we're going to bring her into the show. So how cool is this app? Right, literally, there's people lively. There's a lot of apps out there that you schedule meetings with, you pay a lot of money to speak with those professionals, and that's mostly advice-driven, where you specifically want to speak to that niche expert. And here you're just like no, I just want to call Tanya. No different than going to a networking event and saying, hey, I see Tanya in the back of the room and she looks interesting and I want to have a conversation. And here we go, she's on. Tanya, welcome to the All Packers. You're here with Elizabeth. So can you tell Elizabeth, in 30 seconds or less, a little bit about yourself, what you do? 

20:20 - Tanya (Caller)
Yeah. So I use my passion for supporting and helping others to lead them on their road to prosperity, whether that be health or wealth, helping them live a balanced life, living the life that they want. That's what I do. I kind of meet people where they are and help them figure out a customized plan to be healthy and lead a balanced life. 

20:44 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
That's amazing. That's technically like a life coach, right. 

20:48 - Tanya (Caller)
Yeah, yeah, sort of Kind of do a little bit of that, but also helping build a healthy, balanced workforce ecosystem so that we have healthy employees and healthy students coming up as employees as well. 

21:04 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Amazing. Could probably not be more important right now, you know. 

21:10 - Tanya (Caller)
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I do a lot of stress management and helping people find their passion and just helping also prepare them for the workforce as well. So sometimes I do mock interviews and just help them figure out what they want to do with their lives. So, yeah, I just love supporting and helping people. That's what I love to do. That's incredible. 

21:36 - Jason Hill (Host)
Well, thank you, Tanya. Do you know about our guest? Do you have a question for her? I'm not sure if you have the chance to see the posting about her background. 

21:46 - Tanya (Caller)
So I know that we were getting to know a little bit about her in the meeting. So could you tell me a little bit about yourself and what the work is that you're doing too? 

21:56 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yeah, it's a little bit of everything. I'm an author, a model, I run a digital Holocaust museum, a lot of political commentary work, just a bunch of everything. Anything you see in the news. Somehow it's involved in my life for whatever reason, but it's a lot of fun, excellent, excellent. 

22:16 - Tanya (Caller)
So who would your ideal client be? Who are you looking to connect with on the L app? 

22:23 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I don't know, do you have Elon Musk yet? 

22:27 - Jason Hill (Host)
Our launch event a year and a half ago why we try to get him. We did it at the Levan Center of Innovation and we pushed hard. We were joking around with ticket sales. We put on a Venbray like help us raise money to get Elon Musk. We were hoping it would catch on because he's all about throwing business showers, just like baby showers, to help start up businesses grow. Of course, but no. Elon is not on the app yet, but one day he will be. 

22:55 - Tanya (Caller)
One of the things I think you'll find is there are so many resources on the Al app, so it's wonderful to go and just you can just type in something that you're looking for and all of these wonderful experts will pop up. So I hope that you have a chance to explore on there and connect with lots of people. We have so many wonderful people on the app, so we're excited to have you involved with Al. 

23:19 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Thank you, excited to be a part of it. 

23:21 - Jason Hill (Host)
I will answer it for her. I think one day she will have her own nonprofit and then she'll be able to speak with folks like Libby and get grant advice as a great example Right. We have a lot of grant experts on the app and it will start with a conversation, probably in the next 10 days. I bet she lives down here South Florida and all of a sudden one day you have your own nonprofit right and all of a sudden it was those early relationships from today that will then impact you tomorrow. 

23:50 - Tanya (Caller)
Absolutely, and one of the things too I did help build a nonprofit and so we can talk about kind of creative ways that you can get started without having that nonprofit status but still be able to go after grant funds and things like that. So there are wonderful ways that you can collaborate and partner with people until you can get your own nonprofit established. 

24:16 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yeah. 

24:17 - Jason Hill (Host)
Nice. Well, Tanya, thank you for joining us on the Al podcast today. We appreciate it. 

24:22 - Tanya (Caller)
Thank you, thanks for calling. It was nice to meet you, you too. 

24:26 - Jason Hill (Host)
That was pretty cool, right. That was your first Al call. It was Right. There's no platform really out there like this where there's people available, you call and chat, pay them a few dollars and you're connected. 

24:37 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
And leave a review at the end. 

24:40 - Jason Hill (Host)
Or report them. Yeah, we're like this person, appropriate, hopefully. 

24:43 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I haven't had to report anyone yet. Okay, we manually vet everybody. So any request that we get in, just like you said pending, we check out their profile, their social media, just website whatever make sure that they're hopefully good people. But while he's looking for someone else, I do want to hear more about the digital Holocaust Museum, like when that came about. Was that a more recent thing, with all the turmoil going on, or have you been doing that for a while? What inspired you to create that? 

25:15 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I've been in the space of fighting anti-Semitism for a really long time. I actually ran my own big nonprofit. We had a Super PAC arm and a 501C3 arm, so I'm very familiar with that space and it was a lot and we shut down in 2020. Gonna take a break, but I still kind of focused very heavily in terms of fighting anti-Semitism and all of that. And then I believe it was I don't even know what year we're in right now, but it was all of 22 when Kanye West kind of went very much anti-Semitic and shocked everyone and so I had to kind of enter into the space I never thought it'd have to be in, which was proving the Holocaust did happen. 

25:54 - Jason Hill (Host)
Oh my gosh, you're just crazy that you have to talk about that. 

25:58 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Literally so. With crypto and decentralization being on everyone's minds, I was like let's create the first digital Holocaust Museum utilizing decentralized technology, so anyone in the world can log on, follow the directions and actually preserve the materials we have on there on their servers and we can have everyone around the world doing that. So God forbid this materials are ever taken down or removed or someone tries to claim it never happened. It's protected and it's on people's computers around the world. 

26:25 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
So I could log in now. It's still up there. Okay, definitely have some people I want to share that with. So, yeah, that's amazing, thank you, are we on? 

26:34 - Jason Hill (Host)
a call. This is Joe. 

26:36 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Taluska, yeah, you called him. 

26:38 - Jason Hill (Host)
He just went live. 

26:39 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I told him to go live because I knew he would want to talk to Elizabeth, the next congressman for the 23rd this week in South Florida. 

26:46 - Jason Hill (Host)
Joe, welcome to the OWL podcast. You are live and a past guest of the OWL show. How is everything going today? 

26:53 - Joe (Caller)
Oh man, it's great. Listen, I'm having a good time. I'm out there meeting people. As you know, I am the leading candidate for the 23rd Congressional District here in Palm Beach County and Warrant and I tell you it's a good time to be on the political trail because people are thirsty for change and I'm a change agent and we're going to win this thing. We're going to turn this thing around. 

27:20 - Jason Hill (Host)
With that energy, I believe you got a victory. Joe, you know you got my vote. 

27:25 - Joe (Caller)
Me too. Thank you, my friend. 

27:27 - Jason Hill (Host)
Okay, Joe, we have Elizabeth in the studio. Elizabeth, if you don't mind telling Joe a little bit about yourself. And then, Joe, I want you to ask Elizabeth a question, okay. 

27:37 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Wait, can I start by asking him a question? 

27:38 - Jason Hill (Host)
Oh, yeah, fire away. 

27:40 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yeah, who are you running against? 

27:42 - Joe (Caller)
Oh listen, I'm running on the 23rd District. You know I do have a primary, but listen, at this point the most important thing is that we got to rebuild the economy. People cannot afford to buy homes because interests are too high. So the first thing I'm going to do when I get to Congress, I'm going to call a meeting with the Ways and Means Committee and we're going to cut. We're going to ask the Federal Reserve Chairman, we're going to ask the President of the United States to order the Chairman of the Federal Reserve to cut down interest rates. So, you and I, we can afford to buy a house again Sounds like a good plan. 

28:20 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Who's the Congress member there now in the 23rd District? 

28:24 - Joe (Caller)
Well, I'm a conservative guy, I'm a Republican Congressman, I'm the leading Republican candidate. So, the most important thing, joe Toulouska, congressman, joe Toulous, future Congressman, joe Toulouska is the man. You are the man, elizabeth, elizabeth, I'm your half-man. I'm your half-man, joe, I'm your half-man, joe. And immigrant, right, I'm a pastor. 

28:44 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I'm a pastor and a community leader, and you talked a lot at your political event that I was at about immigration as well and how you came to this country as a legal immigrant right 35 years ago, I migrated to this country, legally, of course, because, listen, at the end of the day, we need to know who's in our country. 

29:08 - Joe (Caller)
Listen, this is the greatest country in the world. America is still the greatest, the best country on the first of the earth. However, we must take care home first. Yes, we welcome everybody, but anyone who wants to come to a great country, elizabeth, they must come legally, like I did 35 years ago. 

29:29 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Agreed. My parents are immigrants, so right there with you. Absolutely from where your parents immigrated? From where? From the former Soviet Union, Estonia and Russia? 

29:41 - Joe (Caller)
Oh, wow, all right. Well, thank goodness. 

29:43 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yes, exactly, thank God. 

29:46 - Jason Hill (Host)
And Joe, when is your event? So, Elizabeth you have an event next week, right? 

29:49 - Joe (Caller)
Oh yes, thank you, my goodness, jason, you're the man, thank you. Listen, I got a great event lined up for Tuesday, this Tuesday coming up the 27th, at the great Marriott and Boca Raton. It's gonna be a heck of an event. I have a great team. I have the best host committee. It's my biggest. It's a great event. It's a fundraising event for Jota Lusca, for Congress. It will be again at the Marriott and Boca Raton from six to eight PM this Tuesday, this coming up Tuesday the 27th, at the beautiful Marriott, from six to eight PM. I tell you, it's gonna be great. We have great and we have food, great food. We're gonna have food, music and there's gonna be some great people there. 

30:39 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Amazing and wait. Tell everyone when your primary is. 

30:43 - Joe (Caller)
Oh, the primary will be on August. 

30:45 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
It's in August the 20th Amazing, so everyone listening. Register to vote so you can vote in that primary. 

30:53 - Joe (Caller)
That's right, Jota Lusca for Congress, Toulousca, Joe Toulousca for Congress. 

30:58 - Jason Hill (Host)
All right, and they can speak to you one on one. How right, how cool is that, oh my God. Well, elizabeth, well, thank you so much. Tell Joe a little bit about you and I wanna reverse it. I want Joe to ask you a question. 

31:10 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Sure, I worked heavily in politics back in 2016, 17, 18, and 19. So it feels like a long, long time ago, but it wasn't that far away, so almost too well-versed in this world, so I completely understand what you're going through. I think everything you said is amazing. Like I said, daughter of immigrants, so completely agree with you and I can't wait to see what you do and hopefully win that primary and win that election. 

31:39 - Joe (Caller)
You were involved in the political arena, Elizabeth. 

31:42 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I was yes. 

31:44 - Jason Hill (Host)
His battle scores. 

31:45 - Joe (Caller)
What did you do? You know who did you work. What specifically you did in the political arena? 

31:51 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I worked for Donald Trump's presidential campaign. 

31:55 - Joe (Caller)
Oh, wow, great. Which area you did field work political. You know fundraising strategy. 

32:02 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
So I was actually in his campaign office in Trump Tower in New York and I ran all his volunteer centers across the country, all the phone banking operations across the country where the volunteers were calling into and they were getting data over the political team. So a little bit of that teeny tiny team that somehow made history. 

32:20 - Joe (Caller)
Wow. Now, elizabeth, you know you're gonna be shocked to what I'm gonna say. Do you remember Bill Steepin or Paul Manafort? Do you remember the student named Bill Steepin and Paul Manafort? Yes, I know them both. Yes, bill and I, we both work for the governor of New Jersey. Bill Steepin is my guy. 

32:39 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
That's awesome. Bill is my. I agree. We all love Bill Steepin. 

32:43 - Joe (Caller)
And also, by the way he was, he was the White House political director. That's my guy. Yes, he was. And guess what? My name was on the top list, elizabeth 2017,. My name was on the president top list, though I was the White House top guy. Top candidate for US ambassador for Haiti. Oh, that's amazing. You bet, you bet, so you know. So this cycle, one this time around are you gonna be involved this time around, elizabeth? 

33:12 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Can't give away too much, but everyone will find out in about three weeks. Ooh, ooh. 

33:17 - Jason Hill (Host)
We will announce it in three weeks here on the L-O-V podcast. 

33:21 - Joe (Caller)
Can so? Did you work for the administration after the last administration? 

33:28 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I did not. No, I stayed in New York with my husband who worked for the reelection campaign. I mean, I actually ran a PAC. Oh right, where do you live now? Are you in South Florida? Now, I'm between New York and South Florida. 

33:40 - Joe (Caller)
yes, oh, we should grab. You know, I would love to get together, you know, maybe for coffee or lunch or breakfast, you know, sure let's talk after this we're gonna try to get her to go next Tuesday to your event. She's on time. Oh, listen the entire. You know, listen the entire cast. You know. The entire podcast is welcome to my listen. Listen, it's on me, you know, don't worry about the formula that are you know ticket tab. It's on me, you guys are gonna be, you guys are gonna be my special guests. 

34:09 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Ooh, nice. 

34:10 - Jason Hill (Host)
That's a pretty good offer. Everyone listening out there. $500 tickets for free. If you say Owl at the door, I like that. Well, joe, thank you very much for joining us on the Owl podcast and I'll see you next Tuesday. Okay. 

34:21 - Joe (Caller)
My Jason. Thank you so much. Thank you, elizabeth, Thank you, thank you everybody. Remember johtoluskacom, johtoluskacom, and that's the best way people, if people wanna learn more. But listen, I'm excited about this race because we're gonna win. We're gonna turn Florida, we're gonna continue to make Florida a more conservative state where people feel free to thrive and prosper. 

34:43 - Jason Hill (Host)
Awesome. Take care, joe. Thank you. Okay, that's pretty cool right. 

34:49 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yeah. 

34:50 - Jason Hill (Host)
Second Owl call, we'll give him five star review. 

34:53 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Yes, definitely. 

34:54 - Jason Hill (Host)
Great call, and he was a Pascas on the owl podcast and then I was on his podcast. He has one as well. Okay, I think you know what time it is Bet time, bet time. This is our favorite part of the show. Yeah she's so excited. 

35:10 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I'm not just right. I think you need a Celsius. Oh, no, I don't drink. 

35:14 - Jason Hill (Host)
I mean, I'll put this is powered by Celsius. For times like now, my co-host Ellie needs a boost energy. Yeah, uh well you could sound like Joe. You see that energy. Now I'm out the phone and he does not need a Celsius. Yeah, he has a natural he just wakes up with with. You know, ten out ten energy somehow. I'm like that in the morning and then I, then I crash, Find my energy around like six again losing a unite owl. 

35:46 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Okay, I actually don't like the early morning, oh, but I think my brain is still asleep, so I get the best work done in the morning, because there's no time to stress. I just have to power through everything, yeah. 

35:56 - Jason Hill (Host)
I wasn't a morning person. But then you, when you have children I got two and nine, seven they force you up and then it helps because I have I have to wake up at 6 30. I gotta get out of the house by around 7 20, or they're late for school. You can't be late for school. They get tardies and stuff. And then I, I'm just, I'm up, then right 8 o'clock, I'm, you know, I'm speaking to people and doing his workout around a lot of work. 

36:20
I get a lot of work done and I become a morning person now, but then I crash right around this time of this podcast. Actually, I know why we do a podcast right or during my crash hour, but but but that's why we got Celsius, of course. Okay, it's bedtime. You want to explain the rules here? 

36:35 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, sure. So basically every week we give our guests a little challenge. So Typically on your end, we ask that you either make or take a certain number of calls on owl. Typically within a week period, so a week from today you have to make or take a certain number of calls. If you do that, then we will give you something. It could be your own episode on the owl pop, not the owl pocket, but using our podcast studio. It could be some merch. It could be life supply of Celsius, really slow down, oh, that's maybe not a life supply, but it could be introductions to people. 

37:16
Yeah, introductions to people basically like anything that you could really think of that you might want from us. On the flip side, if you don't Fulfill your part of the bet, then we get to ask you for something. No, we could. We could ask you for I don't know what we would want, but something so when I just got singing lessons from her, yeah and then I could definitely use some of those. 

37:42
Yeah Well, yeah he's. We're gonna be doing our first lesson on Monday, so he's the first winner. He's I'm actually you were talking about Bitcoin like with your nonprofit and he's someone you could connect with on owl. He made it really big in the Bitcoin world, so he got in early and One of the few that bought it at like a dollar to three dollars range. 

38:05 - Jason Hill (Host)
It just never sold and just saw it obsolete. Skyrocket, of course, but thousands, thousands of dollars worth of Bitcoin in the early days. Okay, what is what is? What is the bet gonna be? Are you gonna? 

38:15 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
mean is it start? We got a start somewhere. 

38:17 - Jason Hill (Host)
We got to start 10 calls by next next Wednesday. 

38:21 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I'm thinking I mean you seem busy but you have a lot going on, but everybody could use some networking. How about? How many calls? Do you think? I don't know eight calls eight. 

38:34 - Jason Hill (Host)
Okay, it's the magic number. Obviously, it keeps going up. We haven't had a guess. 

38:38 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, we had seven. 

38:38 - Jason Hill (Host)
Haven't had a guess yet It'd be like I'll do 25, but the bet's gonna be even bigger Right now. But again, it's just a matter of. 

38:45 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I feel like maybe should we do Four calls made and four calls received both directions. 

38:52 - Jason Hill (Host)
I like that. 

38:52 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah. 

38:53 - Jason Hill (Host)
Yeah, because most people just take calls. They wait, they go Available and they wait for others to call them, which is a lot easier than being that individual to actually go out of their way. Don't to make a call no different than networking it. It's really easy sit in the back of the room, wait for people to come to you, versus like going out of your way right. 

39:07 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
So individual, what's up? We're like dating. Yes, it's the same thing, yeah so you, I'm a guy oh. 

39:14 - Jason Hill (Host)
I always, 99% of the time I had to go and get shut down and then get told no, 99, yes really, oh, good for you, I so that's really expected business financial services. Like I had to ask my time to get one. Yes, yeah, everyone was starting this ab owl. Yeah, many people we've had to ask to come on the app and get told no. But eventually, you know, blossoms and now we have a community. 

39:37 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
So yeah, for so you'll go live to receive those calls. And then you can go to the search bar, literally Look at different industries, so you could go right to entertainment or Politics, nonprofit, I mean you name it. Find some people you want to connect with and give them a call, and for those listening out there sometimes People aren't on when you want to chat with them, so you can. There's a button you can request for them to go live. They'll get a text, know that you want to speak with them or sometimes, even taking it a step further, they might have their notifications turned off. So a lot of times I'll check their social media right on the app, send them a DM on Instagram, linkedin. Hey, I found you on owl. I would love to pay you for your time. You know shows that you value their time, would love to chat with you on the owl app and usually they're more than willing to to go live. So Do you have any idea of what you might want from us? I mentioned a couple options. 

40:36 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I Like to win the bet first, but I'll think and then you'll think, okay, I think. 

40:43 - Jason Hill (Host)
I'm just gonna win the bet. 

40:44 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, I got it. I got it. 

40:45 - Jason Hill (Host)
You're a doer, she's she said that she's not she. He likes real relationships. She doesn't care as much about social media. 

40:51
Yeah all our types and how is really like old school. It's like you said earlier, like my. Your generation does doesn't get out and do a lot of these things that you're doing. And Owl is literally super simple. You hit the call button, like you just saw, and most of the calls are dollar or ten dollars. Occasionally people like a hundred, five hundred dollars. You know, of course, you have extra Discretionary funds and network is only a five hundred dollars for ten minutes. You know, of course, do it If you're on a muscle one day signs up and he's ten thousand dollars. It's just access, of course. 

41:22 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Okay, so so I guess we will just we want. What do we want? 

41:26 - Jason Hill (Host)
What is no? 

41:28 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Why are you putting this on me? Um, what do we want? What do we want? I mean, maybe I'm trying to think of something with with how owl, like I'm like, do a modeling shoot. I don't know. And then like to promote us with the brand yeah yeah, okay, okay I don't know exactly a big ask, or I don't know, maybe we could do some sort of some sort of charity thing with with it, maybe like a call-in show where we like donate a part of the proceeds to like homelessness or something. 

42:04 - Jason Hill (Host)
I don't know, I'm just helping hands is her favorite charity. 

42:07 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
Okay, okay, so maybe something to incorporate them, shouldn't I try to lose the but so we give you. Okay, then, then we could just do it anyway. Yeah, we win or lose, I like yeah. 

42:20 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah, but first we, you know we like to have our people actually use the platform and Understand what they're getting into before we agree to anything. But yeah, it sounds good. So I guess, just stay tuned, guys. What is? 

42:33
the bed all the time, like one of that we don't have to take calls and what happens? So if she doesn't take calls, then she'll do some, some sort of partnership with our brand, right? Whether it's some sort of modeling thing, whether it's a call-in show, like we did with Jonathan and Mark Savant, something like that, do you? I feel like you don't like this idea. 

42:55 - Jason Hill (Host)
If you have a better idea? Seem like an actual like Bet. Bet like we, usually a winner and a loser. So that way it puts pressure on both. 

43:03 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Yeah. If she doesn't, what do you? 

43:05 - Jason Hill (Host)
have in mind. 

43:06 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I'm a gambler. So, what do you have in mind? 

43:08 - Jason Hill (Host)
I play a lot of you this hold on poker, I mean. 

43:11 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
I'm just. You know her time is valuable, so you, you think of something then. 

43:15 - Jason Hill (Host)
I'm really close with a lot of charities in Boca, so one in particular is Place of Hope. We launched our show and he was our first guest, and then we donated the funds to Place of Hope. Right, so I will do something along those lines, like I'll take the platform Revenue for a week what we just said. 

43:36 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Cool Jason's new idea okay. Anyway sorry, sorry, anyway. So, yeah, stay tuned for who wins the bet. We'll let you guys know in a week and we'll do something charitable either way. Yes, yes, and make sure you follow Elizabeth For updates, especially three weeks. That announcement Let everybody know where they can find you. 

44:03 - Elizabeth Pipko (Guest)
I believe it's Elizabeth Pipko on Instagram, facebook and Twitter. 

44:06 - Elie Santra (Co-host)
Okay, okay. 

44:12 - Jason Hill (Host)
And following this episode, we are going to Starbucks to go get something to drink to wake up, woo-hoo. Thanks everybody for listening to this episode on the owl podcast. Post production for the owl podcast is done with care by Ocean Tree Creative.