EP:51 - Entrepreneur Inspiration - Carl Rimi and Tami Boothby on horror film making.

Carl Rimi and Tami Boothby join the Owwll Podcast this week! Carl, a renowned comedian turned filmmaker, alongside Tami, a producer and actor, share their journey of creating "iPossessed," a psychological horror film. Carl's transition from stand-up comedy to the intricacies of film production showcases a unique blend of creativity and resilience, making for a fascinating discussion that delves into the challenges and triumphs of independent filmmaking.

Throughout the episode, the conversation spans the entire filmmaking process, from inception to distribution, highlighting the hurdles Carl and Tammy faced, including navigating the pandemic's impact on production and their aspirations for the film's release. Their film, "iPossessed," serves as a testament to their collaborative spirit, with a story that captivates by turning personal regrets into haunting experiences.

Listeners are offered a treasure trove of insights into the creative process behind making a film that stands out in the crowded horror genre. Carl and Tami's journey underscores the significance of adaptability, teamwork, and the unwavering belief in one's craft. For anyone fascinated by the intersection of comedy and horror or looking to dive into the world of independent filmmaking, this episode is a must-listen, providing both inspiration and practical advice from those who have boldly charted their own path in the entertainment industry.

Connect with Carl: https://www.instagram.com/carlrimi/
Connect with Tami: https://www.instagram.com/healthytamilee/?hl=en

Questions that this Episode Answer:
1. How do you transition from comedy to horror filmmaking?
2. What are the challenges of producing an independent horror film?
3. How does personal experience influence horror storytelling?

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Transcript

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we are

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live on the owl podcast for

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another amazing episode
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coming up right now and I'm

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joined by my co-host

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danielle centilli and of

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course everyone in this

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room will be on the owl app

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so of course look at the

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details and call them on

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owl they will be the

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featured experts our guests

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to our left and I'm going

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to let danielle centilli do

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the honor to announce our guests today

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Yes,

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because I had the honor of meeting

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these two.

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So Carl Remy, I met at his comedy show.

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He's a pretty famous comedian.

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And the lovely Tammy...

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I'm going to butcher it.

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I was like, I'm nervous.

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It's not that hard.

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I don't know.

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I just couldn't read anymore.

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Okay.

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Anyway, Boothby.

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Yes.

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Amazing episode.

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I had a long day.

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I know.

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Right.

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So they are.

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So I met Carl and I had no

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idea really that what

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today's episode was going

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to be about because they

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have a film that they're

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both filmmakers and it's a

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how would you describe it?

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Thriller.

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Yeah,

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it's a psychological horror film made

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by a comedian.

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I wrote it.

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I wrote most of it.

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And Tammy, she helped produce with me.

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Nice.

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And she's acting.

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You're both acting.

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I saw the trailer.

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You guys, the trailer is out, right?

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Yeah.

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Well, yeah, we have a trailer on YouTube.

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Yeah.

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A magical trailer.

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When does it come out?

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We're working on that.

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It's such a process.

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We started in 2020,

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got pushed because of the pandemic.

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We went pictures up in 2021,

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a year later from April of the pandemic.

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We've been a three-year

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process and finishing up

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now and working on distribution.

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Where does it distribute to?

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What are you working on?

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We have a producer rep,

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this guy named Glenn

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Reynolds from Circus Road.

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He's got our film right now

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and he's going to present it to the

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the big ones netflix you are

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you aiming what are you

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aiming for all the big ones

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we don't uh you know the

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bigger streamers you know

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uh we love a theatrical run

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yeah we'd love a little

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brief theatrical run a

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small theatrical and we'll

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definitely do that because

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it's called it like a day

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and date release in the

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theaters and stuff but cool

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but right now it's a journey like

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you know, distribution phase of any film.

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And this is your first time.

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Yeah, this is our first time.

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And it's called I Possessed, correct?

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Yeah.

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Check out the t-shirt, guys.

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Yeah,

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it's about these five people that go

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to this house and it's haunted.

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The way this house haunts

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them is by their own past

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regrets that are creeping

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out throughout the night.

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And honestly, I was, like,

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not sure how this was going to go.

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I'm like, okay, comedian, like, filmmaker.

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It's hilarious.

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And I, like, checked it out, and I'm like,

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wow, this is really legit.

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Like, the cinematography is amazing.

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It's a very legit movie that

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I would see in a theater.

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Oh, yeah, no, it competes up there.

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The stories, the story production value.

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Yeah, it's amazing.

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It's, like, 100%.

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How graphic are we getting?

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Are we getting, like, the Saw movie?

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No, no, no.

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Psychological.

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Actually,

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we should connect them with... So

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we have on the OWL app... Josh Stolberg,

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who wrote the last couple of song loops.

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The next one's coming out.

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He joined the app about a year ago,

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really liked it,

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and posted about it on Twitter.

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And we have a lot of people

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in the horror film industry.

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I think Steve Batten is on there.

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I know he made Terrified 2,

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I believe it is.

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And it was a very popular

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film because he spent so little money,

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he was telling us,

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And it exploded.

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So everyone's trying to pick

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his brain about how to replicate it,

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of course.

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Reminds me of like the Blair

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Witch Project back in the day.

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And people spent like, I don't know,

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$100,000.

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I don't know what the numbers are,

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of course,

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but compared to like $200

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million to build out a thriller,

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of course, or a horror film.

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Yeah, Paranormal Activity.

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Yeah, those are all, you know, lottery,

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you know, for the independent film.

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But yeah, and that's basically why,

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you know,

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this script had a lot of comedy

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in it initially,

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but horror sells and we

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made a business out of it.

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business decision to kind of

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rewrite this thing three

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months before we shot it

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and kind of turned it full

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horror psychological

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because there's a market for that.

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There's a niche market for that.

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Maybe you can do the bloopers version.

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Oh, we have bloopers.

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The comedy version.

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If it gets big,

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show the version that

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never... We're going to do

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a commentary in the DVDs

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portion and we'll just clown it.

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So how do you go from comedy

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shows to horror film producer?

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How did this all happen?

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I used to do,

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I did 10 years of carnival cruise lines.

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I was doing standup.

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Oh, wait,

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our last guest also does a lot of, yeah,

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he does.

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Yeah.

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He's, he's, he's big in the cruises.

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Yeah.

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He's very,

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he's very good with that environment.

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I, I needed to get off.

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Like,

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i started my career doing

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cruise ships and I was like

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uh you don't really need to

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start here you need to kind

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of end up that's what he

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said as well you know so I

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felt like I was going

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nowhere so I developed a

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nice little drinking

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problem so I went full on

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every day all day and uh

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had a bit of a problem and

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got out got off in 2013

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kind of sobered up trying

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to get my life together and

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then started uh process of

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writing and acting and then

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10 years later i

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Wrote a feature film.

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Wow.

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So, so did it.

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So I couldn't have done it, uh,

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without being sober.

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Now, did you like,

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are you from Florida originally?

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Did you ever make the LA move?

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No, I never did.

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We never went to LA and

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that's because of the cruise ships.

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I think a lot now, you know,

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and I was taking care of my mom.

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She's, she was elder.

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She's older, older.

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She had nobody.

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to do that.

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So I kind of stayed on this

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route cause I was making

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good money on the cruise ships.

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Yeah.

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But you know, I felt lost, you know,

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I felt like, well, this is,

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this is really, cause you know,

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you get judged on a cruise ship,

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you get censored, you know?

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So I felt like I was, you know, kind of,

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um,

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kind of compromising myself as an artist,

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as a comic.

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And so when, once I get off,

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I felt so much fear.

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Yeah.

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I was broke.

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but still broke, but, um,

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but I'd rather be that than, you know,

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just felt like I was stuck and then,

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you know, in a rut every day.

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So, so yeah, but then, um,

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but to, yeah, to make a feature film,

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it's like, I felt like we wanted to,

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to do what felt like the impossible.

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And it's still really,

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we still look back and go,

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we don't even know how we did.

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Yeah.

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Like that's you at the owl app.

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He, every day he's like,

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how did I make this app?

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I'm like two and a half

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years deep into this.

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Everyone's like,

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they just can't fathom it.

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They're like,

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how did you possibly do that?

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And you get the same questions.

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You're like, I just don't understand.

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Like how did, and like,

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you just woke up one day and you're like,

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I'm going for it.

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Right.

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Oh yeah.

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Once you commit, then a lot of things,

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grace will come, you know, you'll get,

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You know,

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things will happen in your in

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your favor along the process.

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And I'm sure like I look at

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you and I'm like baffled by

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how you could possibly do

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both baffled at each other.

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But it comes back down to like just,

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you know,

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being patient and taking time

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with things and learning

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new things and asking for help.

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Right.

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Always like when we're doing

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podcasts as a great example,

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I just had to buy a new camera.

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I just went into a Facebook

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group and posted I need

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help figuring out what camera to buy.

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And then 20 people listed the camera.

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But then I took it a step further.

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I'm like, can I speak with you?

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And thankfully they happen

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to be on the owl platform.

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And I pinged him to, to go live.

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And he got a text message.

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Jason would like to speak with you.

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And I paid for him to chat one-on-one.

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And then within a day I went on Amazon.

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I had the camera.

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But then it turns into another problem.

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Then you're like, okay,

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now how do I really get

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this camera to work?

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Then I'm able to FaceTime

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somebody else to ask for help.

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So at the end of the day,

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it's like you didn't know

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how to start putting this film together,

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but you started by reaching out to people,

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I bet.

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Is that what happened?

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You looked at your phone,

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you looked at your Rolodex,

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and you asked for help?

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Yeah, I didn't even have a Rolodex.

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I had worked with several people,

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so I got them involved initially.

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Not a Rolodex, but you got an iPhone 7.

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Yeah, no, I called around,

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started looking for people, you know,

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and tried to vet them as

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much as we could.

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You know,

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we ended up losing seven grand

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right out the gate.

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That's a good loss.

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We got robbed seven grand

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right out the gate.

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Sometimes you need to lose money to learn.

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You need to lose money to learn.

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And you'd rather lose seven

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in the beginning versus a million.

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I think everybody with a

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creative endeavor has lost

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money or business.

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It's just inevitable.

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That's what happens.

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And you've got to learn who

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to trust and who to be involved with.

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And that was kind of the

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process of making a film is

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learn who to trust and then

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the ones that are skilled in

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their departments.

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Like we had a really good cinematographer.

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We had, you know,

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we had people that were in

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the right place.

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Learning to trust yourself too.

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And learning to trust yourself, which I,

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which I we've learned along

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this whole process.

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Like we are different people

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since when we started this whole journey.

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There's so many people out

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there who say they're

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experts and they're kind of bullies.

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And it's like when they see

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that a production has funding,

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they like come out of the

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woodwork to kind of steal your dream.

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And you really have to stay

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determined and hold on to your dream,

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protect your vision, you know,

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trust yourself.

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And if something doesn't feel right,

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it's not right, you know,

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and stick with the people with integrity,

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which sadly there's a lot

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of people without integrity in this.

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I was talking to like right before this,

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I was at my music studio

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with the producer and he

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was like working.

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He's worked with Billy Joel

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and like I remember like a

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lot of famous people.

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I can't remember like all of them, but.

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Um, he was like, oh, well, you know,

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one of the other famous people, he's like,

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yeah, I, I've worked with him.

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I'm trying to remember.

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It was the guy from, um,

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maybe you guys would recognize him.

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I took a picture.

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It's like one of those.

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uh Roger Waters Roger Waters

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I don't know if you listen

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to like that kind of music

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but anyway he's big and

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like whatever it's not the

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kind of music I listen to

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but um he was like yeah but

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I only like was an engineer

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for Roger Waters twice like

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I don't go out of the gate

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saying I'm Roger Waters

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producer you know and we

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were just talking about how

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people in LA like

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act like, you know,

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if they're session

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guitarists and they had one

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session with a famous person,

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they're like,

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I'm Taylor Swift's guitarists.

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And it's like such bullshit.

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And you just,

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and I love him because he

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really has worked with a

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lot of these famous people

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like in depth and he's so humble.

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And I feel like the people that are real,

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the real deal are, yeah,

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are just truly like humble.

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And we do the same thing in comedy.

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Everybody's a standup comic.

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you know yeah they didn't

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applebee's on a tuesday

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night it reminds me of the

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book authors everyone's the

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number one bestseller yeah

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how could there be this

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many number one books

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number one bestsellers

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right we say it all the

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time we want to like make a

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t-shirt out of it that

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filmmaking the delusion is

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real yeah yeah yeah it

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really is you know and

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everybody's trying to get

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credit for something they

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really didn't they haven't

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done everybody wants to be

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the producer everybody

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wants to be the director

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everybody wants to be

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the award winner.

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It's like, we didn't, we don't,

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we're not in it for awards.

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We don't care.

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We're not trying to get in

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festivals for awards.

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Yeah.

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You just love the process to

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make more art probably.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Keep making.

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Yeah.

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And how did you two connect?

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Tell us the backstory there.

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Well, I,

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I met Carl while I was at his comedy show,

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not really wanting to be at

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a comedy show that day.

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I got dragged and you know,

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I wasn't enjoying the show

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until Carl got up on stage and he just,

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if you know, you saw, when you see him,

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it's just like, how is he not,

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Yeah, yeah.

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How is he not more recognizable?

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And I immediately was just drawn to him.

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And, you know, honestly, and I'm not, like,

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trying to fluff him up or anything,

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but he is the same level as

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Robin Williams.

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I mean, his comedy is outstanding.

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I thought when I saw the show, like,

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all those comedians, I was like,

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how are these people not, like, as big as,

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like, the big Ellen DeGeneres?

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Like, whatever.

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You know, like,

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I can't think of comedians

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off the top of my head.

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A big name.

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yeah yeah yeah did I you

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know I you know got a

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selfie whatever after the

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show and just wanted to

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follow him and his movie

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journey and things and then

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um he followed me back on

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social media and we were

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like who sent the dm first

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uh well I had posted and

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tagged him okay he followed me so

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And then what?

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The rest is history?

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Sounds a little creepy.

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Very creepy.

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I actually sent him a joke idea.

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Which,

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bad idea to send a joke idea to a

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comedian.

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But I still think it's funny.

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Anyway, whatever.

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He politely declined that he

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would ever use that.

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No,

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I said it would be good as seen in a

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film.

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It was.

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And were you like always writing as well?

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Like what's your background

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or you just started producing?

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No, this is so crazy.

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So I worked as a nurse for

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16 years and then I

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transitioned to having an

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online health and wellness business.

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I did a lot of public speaking in that,

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but really filmmaking was

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not really on the, you know,

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the horizon yeah but

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something that I do

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resonate with you know I

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was always that kid on the

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playground that had a big

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heart for sticking up for

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the underdog and wanting to

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be an advocate for people

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without a voice and I

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really see filmmaking as a

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way to have another person

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walk in someone's shoes

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that they may not otherwise

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understand ever you know

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and it's like you're taking

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them on a journey

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and they in in turn may

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hopefully have more

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compassion for people like

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yeah well as a nurse I was

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like you must be full of

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compassion and I'm like the

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big touchy-feely person and

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so that was kind of like

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the running joke during the

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editing process they would

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you know they would get

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through the edits then

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bring me in to see if I got

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chills or if I got

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emotional tears or goosebumps,

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then it's good.

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It's a good scene, you know, and if not,

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we got to go back.

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So were you both on the same

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page when you're like, Hey, let's, let's,

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let's make a horror film.

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Like when did that all come about?

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Here's what I know for sure about Carl.

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I felt a hundred percent in

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my heart that if this guy

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didn't get a chance to

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Like the world is missing

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out on this incredible talent.

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And so, you know, I, you know,

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I'm in his fan club for sure,

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but he felt that way about me too.

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And so we both have this

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like underlying respect and

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belief in each other.

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And then we jumped off a cliff, Carl.

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Got down on one knee and said, baby,

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will you go into debt with me?

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And we did.

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Is this a true story?

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Yeah.

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Is this really happening?

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Yeah, I love that.

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I was doing a gig in late October in 2019,

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and a buddy of mine calls up.

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He goes, hey, call me.

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You still doing film stuff?

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I'm like, yeah.

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He goes, I want to invest, man.

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I want to do something.

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He goes, I got $50,000.

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He's like, I'm like, that was like the,

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we had been talking about

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like getting the jumpstart.

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And that was like what

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kicked us in the motion.

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Like,

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Somebody was going to put in, right?

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The universe was like, it's time.

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Especially for a film.

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Everyone knows 99% of films don't make it.

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No different than apps over here.

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No one wants to put in a mobile app.

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They're like,

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come back when you're a

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little further along.

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Everyone's like, greatest idea ever.

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You want to invest?

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Nope.

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That's the thing.

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Statistically, that is right.

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It's like, yeah.

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Cut to

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the scene now it's like, he was never like,

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he wasn't even serious.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Of course.

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But it propelled us to, to,

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to move forward and do it

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and do it ourselves.

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And that's,

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and that's the thing we put up

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all the risk.

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We had so much risk in this.

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We're producing acting, uh,

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You know,

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trying to get doing stuff that

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everything on set while

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acting and trying to keep everybody there,

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maintain, you know, travel.

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Now,

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is it fully complete or is there more

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scenes?

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No, it's fully complete.

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We're working on some tweaks right now.

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But but the movies is in the can't.

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nine test screenings and

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it's tested really well

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with audiences what we're

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doing now is taking some of

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the feedback and just

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tightening up a few things

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that were confusing or you

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know just there's actually

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one scene that like bugged

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both of us and we're we're

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going to redo this one

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little scene because it'll

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make a bigger impact you

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know based on audience feedback so

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Anyway, it's exciting.

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We're in definitely the final stretch.

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You have a shot to be in the film.

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They need to re-record.

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That was the ultimate goal

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was to just make a badass

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film and then people will take notice.

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This will be our first calling card.

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People are like, what have you done?

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We didn't spare any expense.

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There's nothing we left.

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We have a 40-piece live

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orchestra that did two

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pieces in the film that are

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eight minutes long.

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They were out of Bulgaria and my...

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My score guy wrote the music

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for it and everything.

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We have a soundtrack.

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12 original pieces are in this film.

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Where was everything filmed?

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In Lake Placid, Florida.

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We had a big farmhouse there.

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90% was shot there.

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And then we shot other

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locations for whatever we

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got out of the house.

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Have you guys acted before?

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Yeah, I've done a lot of stuff.

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A lot of indie, low-budget stuff.

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A lot of stuff that wasn't good,

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but I learned a lot through the process.

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What about you?

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I've done a couple things.

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She was an extra in Transformers 3.

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You have a very pretty face.

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I was an extra in Transformers 3.

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You can't see her.

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No.

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What are your favorite

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horror films of all time?

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Well, I'm not really a horror movie person,

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but I did enjoy Sixth Sense and Smile.

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And I would say I Possessed

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is in that vein, like very story driven,

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emotional, you know,

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psychological kind of.

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The girl with the hair

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reminded me of The Ring a little bit.

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I get the dark hair.

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I was like, ooh.

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How about you, Carl?

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Favorite movies, horror films?

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Jaws.

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Jaws, yeah.

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We don't even think of that

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as a horror film.

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I know.

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It's the best horror film ever.

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I forgot about it.

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Obviously, Aliens, The Exorcist.

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Ooh, Predator.

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I love Predator.

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We do an homage to Predator in this film.

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I just always loved like Freddy Cougar.

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Oh, yeah.

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Jason, Friday the 13th.

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Back in the day.

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Little Chucky.

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Oh, Chucky was the best.

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I used to watch a lot as a kid.

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My parents owned a video store.

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Oh, interesting.

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Avant-garde.

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Did you always know you

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wanted to be like in entertainment?

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I mean, I know you didn't, but did you?

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Not until I was like 24.

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I didn't even know how to be

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a stand-up comic.

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My friend backed out of an open mic,

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and I was like, well, I'll do it.

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And then kind of wrote some

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stuff down and then went a week later.

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And then.

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So you just started open mics and.

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Yeah.

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You know, back, back in the nineties,

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you didn't know, like,

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that's how old I'm dating myself,

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but that's how old, you know,

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seven when I started, but, but yeah,

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you didn't,

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it's not like now where you

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can probably find an open mic.

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anywhere yeah where can

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people find you regardless

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besides the cruise right

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not everyone's going on

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carnival cruise lines but

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locally here no just right

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now and you're not on

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cruises anymore right

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because you were like

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absolutely not drinking nah

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I won't go near the

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I work a lot locally.

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I work in Florida.

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Next week,

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I'll be in Bassani's in Port

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Charlotte and then over at Porky's in St.

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Cloud.

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Porky's?

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What is that?

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It's a comedy club.

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I know.

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It's a barbecue spot?

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I'm sure it's a barbecue

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restaurant slash comedy club.

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That's how they play that.

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I don't know if anyone's around Tampa,

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but we are doing another

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film screening free

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screening on October 29th.

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I'll be field trip.

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Yeah.

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I'll be headlining the shows that week.

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This comedy club in Tampa

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and Wesley Chapel.

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Oh, I'm actually in a movie theater.

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I'm going to put it on my calendar.

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Maybe I'll come to Tampa.

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The comedy club is called

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SideSplitters in Wesley Chapel.

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And it's in an actual theater.

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So if you get a ticket to the comedy show,

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you get a free ticket.

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26th through the 28th,

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I'll be performing every night.

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And then the 29th, we'll show the film.

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And that'll be the complete

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final copy of the episode.

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Oh, so you have a deadline.

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And we want people's feedback.

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Because this is like the

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first time showing that cut.

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Oh, yeah.

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We're going to start looking

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up some owl experts that

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are available to call.

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And you guys will get your

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first experience where

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we're going to make an

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outbound call to an owl expert.

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We're going to bring them

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live into this podcast and

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we're going to ask them to

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keep it simple.

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Tell us a little bit about

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themselves in under 30 seconds.

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So we understand their expertise.

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Then what you're going to do

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is you're going to ask them

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a question to really pick

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their brain about a certain topic.

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We had somebody,

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but unfortunately she was a

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hundred bucks for 10 minutes.

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So we're going to quickly call somebody.

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Let's pick on Carolyn.

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Okay.

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Well, that is buzzing.

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We're going to keep this show going.

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Okay.

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So have you done a lot of

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podcasts guys so far?

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Cause that's a good way to

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get the word out.

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Yeah.

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That's going to be as much as I'd like.

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Yeah.

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There is a big podcast group on Facebook.

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I mean,

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Facebook has all the groups I can

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share with you.

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That's really, you can get on anything.

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Yeah.

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Hello.

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Hi, you are live, Carolyn,

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on the OWL podcast.

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And you are here with two

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horror film makers, Carl and Tammy.

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Carl's also a stand-up comedian.

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So do you have any questions

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putting you on the spot here?

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So they just they're almost

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finished with their film

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that they wrote and both

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acted in and they're about

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to put it out in theater soon.

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And yeah,

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if you have any questions for

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them about filmmaking or comedy,

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feel free.

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Oh, of course, I'd have questions.

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I would say what when in

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making a film like that in

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the horror type of genre.

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Are there any like specific

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challenges that you face?

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Just a few, right, guys?

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I'd say it's like building a mobile app.

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It was so easy.

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I did it overnight in my sleep.

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Well, on set,

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if you want to go specifically,

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we had a lot of problems with blood.

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The blood scenes were the most difficult.

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It looked good, though.

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In the trailer, I was like, ooh,

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good blood.

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And we did special.

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We had to do special effects afterwards,

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too.

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But yeah,

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that was probably a lot of

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difficult parts because I

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wasn't familiar with working with blood.

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And I guess that posed a lot

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of challenges.

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Interesting.

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Now, Carolyn, what do you do?

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Do you want to share with

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our audience here?

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Sure.

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So my name is Carolyn Owens,

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and I actually serve as an

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executive and leadership coach.

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I provide organizational

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training and workshops and

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lead cohorts in discussions

00:23:19.170 --> 00:23:21.011
around leadership skills,

00:23:21.311 --> 00:23:23.653
having a true dialogue in a

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way that you don't get to do,

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but conversations in the

00:23:27.076 --> 00:23:28.238
workplace have changed.

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So being able to facilitate

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those in a safe space that

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we learn to have some of

00:23:33.840 --> 00:23:35.701
those leadership skills we need today,

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empathy, communication,

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interpersonal relationship

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in a safe setting.

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So we develop those for all

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levels of leaders.

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But as well as I host a podcast,

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Let's Coach with Carolyn,

00:23:50.308 --> 00:23:51.368
we're about to drop some

00:23:51.449 --> 00:23:52.890
amazing episodes in the

00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:53.810
next couple of weeks.

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So I encourage everybody to

00:23:55.411 --> 00:23:56.211
kind of check it out.

00:23:56.291 --> 00:23:57.952
We have been around for over 10 years.

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And we're on, you know, Apple Podcasts,

00:24:00.733 --> 00:24:03.414
you name it, all the platforms.

00:24:03.454 --> 00:24:04.915
So to Let's Coach with Carolyn,

00:24:05.256 --> 00:24:06.276
check it out and be ready.

00:24:06.296 --> 00:24:07.777
In about two weeks,

00:24:07.797 --> 00:24:08.497
you're going to see some

00:24:08.856 --> 00:24:10.157
great new episodes dropping.

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I would love to know, Carolyn,

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what are your top three

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leadership books that you

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would recommend?

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I'm a personal growth junkie.

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So what would you recommend?

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Oh, cool.

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So, okay, it's kind of,

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I'm going to probably sound

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a little strange because I

00:24:30.113 --> 00:24:32.054
don't really memorize a

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bunch of quotes and

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everything because I want

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people to develop their own.

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How do you embrace your life?

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Did you hear?

00:24:40.477 --> 00:24:41.376
Oh, I thought you said quotes.

00:24:41.396 --> 00:24:42.637
Not quotes.

00:24:42.917 --> 00:24:43.897
Quotes would be hard.

00:24:44.117 --> 00:24:45.097
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:45.378 --> 00:24:46.858
If you had to do that on the spot,

00:24:46.959 --> 00:24:47.439
good luck.

00:24:47.659 --> 00:24:48.720
Yeah, yeah.

00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:49.279
Cheat a little bit.

00:24:52.102 --> 00:24:53.403
There is one that I will say,

00:24:53.442 --> 00:24:54.223
a quote that's been

00:24:54.423 --> 00:24:56.605
resonating with my groups lately,

00:24:56.625 --> 00:24:58.666
and it's when they go low,

00:24:58.906 --> 00:25:02.589
you go high by Michelle Obama.

00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:03.750
Because we were talking

00:25:03.790 --> 00:25:04.371
about a lot of the

00:25:04.432 --> 00:25:05.732
interactions that you have,

00:25:06.153 --> 00:25:07.153
how when someone is not

00:25:07.233 --> 00:25:08.434
willing to grow and you're

00:25:08.875 --> 00:25:10.476
often in a situation where

00:25:10.516 --> 00:25:11.616
there's a lot of negativity,

00:25:11.876 --> 00:25:12.678
what do you do?

00:25:13.516 --> 00:25:14.977
But that's the quote that's

00:25:15.017 --> 00:25:16.196
been sticking a lot lately

00:25:16.317 --> 00:25:18.377
is when they go,

00:25:18.438 --> 00:25:19.518
I found the answer to that.

00:25:19.577 --> 00:25:20.178
It's easy.

00:25:20.258 --> 00:25:21.057
It's sitting on my desk.

00:25:21.159 --> 00:25:21.999
It's called Starbucks.

00:25:22.898 --> 00:25:23.618
You just give people

00:25:23.659 --> 00:25:25.140
Starbucks and they get in a

00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:27.039
happy mood and it works every time.

00:25:28.580 --> 00:25:28.980
Yeah.

00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:29.820
You got me hooked on.

00:25:29.881 --> 00:25:30.862
I was like, wait a second.

00:25:30.922 --> 00:25:31.501
He's not kidding.

00:25:31.922 --> 00:25:33.041
It's like, shit.

00:25:33.342 --> 00:25:34.623
I never drank Starbucks before.

00:25:34.663 --> 00:25:35.722
Now, now I do.

00:25:36.202 --> 00:25:37.364
Now I love my job.

00:25:37.523 --> 00:25:38.523
Now I love it a lot.

00:25:39.644 --> 00:25:40.025
Yeah.

00:25:41.806 --> 00:25:43.548
Do you have any books, though,

00:25:43.628 --> 00:25:44.829
that you would recommend, Carolyn?

00:25:44.849 --> 00:25:44.891
So...

00:25:48.977 --> 00:25:50.157
One that I reread again

00:25:50.238 --> 00:25:51.877
recently was The Four Agreements.

00:25:52.278 --> 00:25:52.739
Oh, yeah.

00:25:52.959 --> 00:25:54.259
I really like that book in

00:25:54.298 --> 00:25:55.279
terms of a personal

00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:57.740
perspective and our own growth,

00:25:58.080 --> 00:25:59.340
but as well as how we

00:25:59.421 --> 00:26:00.801
interact and relate to others.

00:26:02.061 --> 00:26:02.923
I actually got my

00:26:02.942 --> 00:26:04.722
22-year-old son to read it,

00:26:05.124 --> 00:26:06.844
and he was really vested in the book,

00:26:06.903 --> 00:26:08.404
which was great to see

00:26:08.444 --> 00:26:10.526
someone that young diving into it.

00:26:10.986 --> 00:26:11.665
I want to say that's

00:26:11.705 --> 00:26:12.586
probably at the top of my

00:26:13.507 --> 00:26:15.008
list in terms of personal

00:26:15.048 --> 00:26:17.489
growth right now, The Four Agreements.

00:26:17.888 --> 00:26:18.189
Nice.

00:26:18.249 --> 00:26:18.568
Let's see.

00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.569
Oh, gosh, there's so many that I do read.

00:26:22.871 --> 00:26:23.490
Oh, God.

00:26:25.090 --> 00:26:26.330
While she's thinking on one,

00:26:26.471 --> 00:26:27.111
what are your three?

00:26:27.951 --> 00:26:28.511
Or at least one.

00:26:28.612 --> 00:26:29.432
Let's go.

00:26:29.451 --> 00:26:31.211
I know one that totally

00:26:31.251 --> 00:26:32.352
changed my life was How to

00:26:32.372 --> 00:26:33.731
Win Friends and Influence People.

00:26:33.771 --> 00:26:34.673
It's like a classic.

00:26:34.893 --> 00:26:35.573
What's the answer?

00:26:35.813 --> 00:26:36.292
It was great.

00:26:36.333 --> 00:26:37.932
You better sit in 20 seconds or less.

00:26:38.232 --> 00:26:39.393
It's so interesting.

00:26:39.554 --> 00:26:41.334
One thing is to remember

00:26:41.374 --> 00:26:43.054
people's names like that.

00:26:43.074 --> 00:26:44.394
I'm so bad at that.

00:26:45.654 --> 00:26:47.394
I built an app to prevent that if you...

00:26:48.394 --> 00:26:49.236
Your last name, I'm like,

00:26:50.415 --> 00:26:52.037
B. You have to say it a couple times.

00:26:52.076 --> 00:26:57.460
Boothby, Boothby, Boothby.

00:26:57.780 --> 00:26:58.921
To remember someone's name,

00:26:58.980 --> 00:27:01.082
it means so much to that person.

00:27:01.883 --> 00:27:03.723
More than we ever give it credit for.

00:27:03.804 --> 00:27:04.163
I disagree.

00:27:04.183 --> 00:27:05.605
When people don't remember my name,

00:27:05.644 --> 00:27:06.025
I'm like,

00:27:09.550 --> 00:27:10.030
Don't worry.

00:27:10.070 --> 00:27:11.612
I never remember people's names.

00:27:11.672 --> 00:27:12.652
Like, all good.

00:27:13.232 --> 00:27:15.133
But it depends, I guess, some people.

00:27:15.613 --> 00:27:17.773
For me, because I'm so bad at it, like,

00:27:18.454 --> 00:27:20.335
I am like, it's fine, you know?

00:27:20.976 --> 00:27:22.375
Minders just kill people with kindness.

00:27:22.895 --> 00:27:23.436
Often, like,

00:27:23.557 --> 00:27:24.916
everyone expects you to freak

00:27:25.037 --> 00:27:26.438
out back at them, right?

00:27:26.458 --> 00:27:27.478
When they're mean or they do

00:27:27.538 --> 00:27:29.519
something and you're like, you know,

00:27:29.538 --> 00:27:32.599
the typical reaction is push back, right?

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.881
And often, I just always think that, like,

00:27:35.181 --> 00:27:36.582
you know, they're just having a bad day,

00:27:36.602 --> 00:27:37.142
right?

00:27:37.261 --> 00:27:37.821
They're going through a

00:27:37.862 --> 00:27:39.022
struggle you're not aware of.

00:27:39.784 --> 00:27:41.605
And at the end of the day, it's just like,

00:27:42.045 --> 00:27:44.446
it could be a simple thing of saying like,

00:27:44.747 --> 00:27:45.426
good work today.

00:27:45.446 --> 00:27:46.788
It could be a card.

00:27:47.307 --> 00:27:49.548
It could be a $5 item at

00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:51.470
Starbucks or on Amazon.

00:27:51.651 --> 00:27:52.490
Did your wife teach you that?

00:27:52.998 --> 00:27:53.258
She did.

00:27:53.739 --> 00:27:54.538
She's good at that shit.

00:27:54.719 --> 00:27:54.999
Yeah,

00:27:55.019 --> 00:27:56.180
I feel like you're saying she's good

00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:56.941
at getting gifts.

00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.882
It's just like some people

00:27:59.122 --> 00:28:00.002
will never forget the way

00:28:00.042 --> 00:28:00.923
you made them feel.

00:28:02.984 --> 00:28:04.846
It's not a $10,000 item

00:28:05.046 --> 00:28:06.267
because anyone with money

00:28:06.366 --> 00:28:07.528
can just be like,

00:28:07.587 --> 00:28:08.788
here's this bunch of crap,

00:28:08.848 --> 00:28:09.750
but it didn't make you feel

00:28:09.769 --> 00:28:10.690
that good because it didn't

00:28:10.730 --> 00:28:11.371
mean much to them.

00:28:11.391 --> 00:28:13.112
They just wrote a check.

00:28:13.211 --> 00:28:14.153
Anyone could write a check

00:28:14.173 --> 00:28:15.292
and donate money if they're

00:28:15.313 --> 00:28:15.933
worth a lot of money,

00:28:16.173 --> 00:28:18.154
but not everyone can show

00:28:18.414 --> 00:28:20.576
up at a non-profit event

00:28:21.226 --> 00:28:22.887
and get their hands dirty, right?

00:28:22.907 --> 00:28:23.867
Like everybody else.

00:28:23.948 --> 00:28:25.529
And that means a lot more to

00:28:25.549 --> 00:28:26.150
a lot of people.

00:28:26.570 --> 00:28:27.912
So I'm always a big believer in just,

00:28:28.531 --> 00:28:30.233
just making people, you know, feel good.

00:28:30.693 --> 00:28:31.755
And it's those little touches.

00:28:32.016 --> 00:28:32.215
Yeah.

00:28:33.056 --> 00:28:33.696
You agree, Carolyn?

00:28:35.337 --> 00:28:35.878
I do.

00:28:35.898 --> 00:28:36.700
I do.

00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:39.442
Oftentimes that the quick solution is,

00:28:39.501 --> 00:28:39.761
you know,

00:28:40.722 --> 00:28:42.104
how much money can you do with something?

00:28:42.144 --> 00:28:43.905
But that interaction is priceless.

00:28:44.125 --> 00:28:44.446
Yeah.

00:28:45.267 --> 00:28:45.548
Sure.

00:28:46.268 --> 00:28:46.808
Nice check.

00:28:46.848 --> 00:28:47.429
Doesn't hurt.

00:28:47.449 --> 00:28:48.089
Yeah.

00:28:48.828 --> 00:28:51.353
Anyone out there listening, you guys,

00:28:51.513 --> 00:28:51.894
right?

00:28:51.973 --> 00:28:53.336
We're working on another film.

00:28:53.978 --> 00:28:55.480
Are you fundraising right now?

00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:56.240
We're lucky.

00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:58.203
We want to piggyback off this film.

00:28:58.464 --> 00:28:58.684
Yeah.

00:28:59.425 --> 00:28:59.566
wow,

00:28:59.605 --> 00:29:02.508
you guys are already going to film two.

00:29:02.587 --> 00:29:03.608
Oh yeah.

00:29:03.949 --> 00:29:06.151
Any investors out there for the app,

00:29:06.191 --> 00:29:07.971
for the film, a combination,

00:29:08.172 --> 00:29:09.894
anything like just hit us up.

00:29:09.973 --> 00:29:11.775
We have our information to

00:29:11.815 --> 00:29:14.176
do this one is the next one too.

00:29:14.217 --> 00:29:14.576
Yeah.

00:29:14.777 --> 00:29:16.198
I'll start with one stop here.

00:29:16.218 --> 00:29:16.458
Right.

00:29:16.478 --> 00:29:17.598
We were at one podcast.

00:29:17.638 --> 00:29:19.701
Now we're at like 40 plus.

00:29:19.800 --> 00:29:20.060
Right.

00:29:20.121 --> 00:29:21.362
And, and we,

00:29:21.461 --> 00:29:22.162
we didn't know what we were

00:29:22.182 --> 00:29:23.083
doing the first couple of podcasts.

00:29:23.123 --> 00:29:24.003
I remember the first podcast.

00:29:24.023 --> 00:29:24.364
You were like,

00:29:24.384 --> 00:29:25.325
do you want to ask a question?

00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:25.585
I'm like,

00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:26.750
No, I don't.

00:29:27.871 --> 00:29:29.412
And now I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:29:29.432 --> 00:29:30.512
I have another podcast.

00:29:30.573 --> 00:29:32.233
I started in 2018 before, you know,

00:29:32.554 --> 00:29:34.115
what podcasting is what it is today.

00:29:34.135 --> 00:29:36.596
And I was nervous as hell, right?

00:29:36.636 --> 00:29:38.057
It started where we weren't on,

00:29:38.317 --> 00:29:40.619
on live streams and I was stuttering,

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:41.901
trying to get people's names, right?

00:29:41.921 --> 00:29:42.881
We're like, Hey, we record,

00:29:42.921 --> 00:29:44.001
I messed up in the beginning.

00:29:44.541 --> 00:29:45.903
And then we had a retake and

00:29:45.942 --> 00:29:46.663
then all of a sudden you

00:29:46.683 --> 00:29:48.244
just get more comfortable with

00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.891
know doing it more and more

00:29:49.931 --> 00:29:50.810
like anything else in life

00:29:51.111 --> 00:29:52.011
and then over time like

00:29:52.031 --> 00:29:53.311
let's go live right because

00:29:53.332 --> 00:29:54.113
you have to have confidence

00:29:54.133 --> 00:29:55.433
to go live like you could

00:29:55.473 --> 00:29:56.354
screw up someone's name you

00:29:56.374 --> 00:29:56.913
could screw up their

00:29:56.953 --> 00:29:58.734
business title and just say

00:29:58.775 --> 00:29:59.736
something inappropriate and

00:29:59.756 --> 00:30:01.056
be judged you know by the

00:30:01.096 --> 00:30:02.096
people watching of course

00:30:02.757 --> 00:30:04.397
um but it take but but no

00:30:04.458 --> 00:30:05.659
one got to where they were

00:30:05.679 --> 00:30:07.019
without practice right at

00:30:07.038 --> 00:30:08.279
the end of the day and you

00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.381
did film one but I'm sure

00:30:09.421 --> 00:30:10.060
it's going to be so

00:30:10.101 --> 00:30:10.961
different you'll look back

00:30:11.020 --> 00:30:11.721
and be like oh my god

00:30:12.454 --> 00:30:13.016
I can't believe how

00:30:13.056 --> 00:30:14.258
confident we were on film one.

00:30:14.298 --> 00:30:16.079
We were, we were, we knew nothing.

00:30:16.641 --> 00:30:16.800
Right.

00:30:16.840 --> 00:30:17.903
And it's like us with the app.

00:30:17.942 --> 00:30:19.545
Like I knew nothing building a mobile app,

00:30:19.625 --> 00:30:21.126
but then all of a sudden, you know,

00:30:21.147 --> 00:30:22.509
now I'm like, I'm pretty confident.

00:30:22.670 --> 00:30:23.230
And now I'm like,

00:30:23.391 --> 00:30:24.592
I could build app number two, but nope,

00:30:24.732 --> 00:30:25.012
no way.

00:30:25.252 --> 00:30:25.473
Yeah.

00:30:25.865 --> 00:30:26.545
Not going that way.

00:30:26.565 --> 00:30:28.105
Apps are kind of like you

00:30:28.164 --> 00:30:29.445
stay down the current pathway.

00:30:29.905 --> 00:30:30.826
We hope to impact millions

00:30:30.846 --> 00:30:31.486
and millions of people.

00:30:31.726 --> 00:30:33.625
Well, thank you for answering, Carolyn.

00:30:33.885 --> 00:30:34.586
We appreciate it.

00:30:34.606 --> 00:30:35.346
Thank you, Carolyn.

00:30:35.406 --> 00:30:35.807
Yes.

00:30:36.267 --> 00:30:38.186
You can call her on the OWL app, guys.

00:30:38.547 --> 00:30:38.727
Yes.

00:30:39.507 --> 00:30:41.268
You and Tammy are going to hit it off.

00:30:41.288 --> 00:30:41.587
Yes, please do.

00:30:41.607 --> 00:30:42.928
You're going to talk books.

00:30:43.448 --> 00:30:44.807
Well, that was a pretty cool experience.

00:30:44.827 --> 00:30:45.848
We're going to call one more

00:30:46.148 --> 00:30:46.909
person on OWL.

00:30:47.548 --> 00:30:48.368
So we're going to see who

00:30:48.409 --> 00:30:49.269
else is available.

00:30:49.288 --> 00:30:53.369
Why don't you take over while I look?

00:30:54.428 --> 00:30:55.449
Put me on the spot there.

00:30:55.469 --> 00:30:57.211
No.

00:30:58.232 --> 00:31:00.336
I guess, I mean,

00:31:00.536 --> 00:31:02.077
what was the best part of

00:31:02.117 --> 00:31:02.597
making the film?

00:31:02.637 --> 00:31:03.660
Everyone asks, what's hard?

00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.760
What are the challenges?

00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:05.781
Like, is there...

00:31:06.601 --> 00:31:08.820
The whole process is amazing

00:31:09.261 --> 00:31:09.842
to be a part of.

00:31:09.862 --> 00:31:12.301
I mean, it's ups and downs with any film.

00:31:12.382 --> 00:31:13.182
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:13.241 --> 00:31:14.522
It's not going to be easy, you know.

00:31:14.583 --> 00:31:17.002
And we endured a lot of the stress,

00:31:17.262 --> 00:31:19.022
I think, more than everybody else.

00:31:19.824 --> 00:31:21.564
But everything was enjoyable.

00:31:22.743 --> 00:31:24.464
Every day when I was on set,

00:31:24.525 --> 00:31:25.744
I took a step back and went

00:31:25.805 --> 00:31:27.444
outside to this big, beautiful farmhouse.

00:31:27.505 --> 00:31:29.605
And every day I was, like, amazed.

00:31:29.625 --> 00:31:30.826
I can't believe we're here doing this.

00:31:30.905 --> 00:31:31.226
Yeah.

00:31:31.246 --> 00:31:32.266
And I want to do it again.

00:31:32.286 --> 00:31:33.165
Yeah.

00:31:33.286 --> 00:31:34.747
Even if I get to never do this again.

00:31:34.767 --> 00:31:35.727
Gratitude is key.

00:31:36.586 --> 00:31:39.028
We are super mindful and like, I'm like,

00:31:39.048 --> 00:31:40.769
okay, guys, I got some, I got some.

00:31:41.368 --> 00:31:42.089
Hey, Emmanuel,

00:31:42.130 --> 00:31:43.970
this is Danielle and Jason Hill,

00:31:44.391 --> 00:31:45.490
the founder of the hour.

00:31:45.530 --> 00:31:45.871
Jason.

00:31:45.931 --> 00:31:46.632
How are you, buddy?

00:31:46.852 --> 00:31:47.511
Not bad.

00:31:47.571 --> 00:31:48.011
Not bad.

00:31:48.051 --> 00:31:49.952
You are live on the owl podcast.

00:31:50.272 --> 00:31:51.634
And how cool is this?

00:31:52.114 --> 00:31:52.374
We,

00:31:52.554 --> 00:31:54.815
we have Carl and Tammy to my left over

00:31:54.855 --> 00:31:56.655
here to watch this live, of course.

00:31:56.935 --> 00:31:59.156
And they are putting out

00:31:59.196 --> 00:32:00.417
their first horror film.

00:32:00.538 --> 00:32:02.278
And I know that you are in the industry.

00:32:03.086 --> 00:32:04.605
So can you tell them a

00:32:04.645 --> 00:32:05.386
little bit about your

00:32:05.446 --> 00:32:06.307
background real quick?

00:32:06.787 --> 00:32:08.586
I'm going to have them ask you a question,

00:32:08.827 --> 00:32:09.107
okay?

00:32:10.428 --> 00:32:10.968
Absolutely.

00:32:11.367 --> 00:32:12.067
Thank you.

00:32:12.087 --> 00:32:13.249
So I've been in the industry

00:32:13.269 --> 00:32:14.888
for about 15 years when it

00:32:14.929 --> 00:32:16.209
comes to content creation.

00:32:16.609 --> 00:32:18.309
I recently went on a path

00:32:18.710 --> 00:32:21.290
and got my MSA in film production,

00:32:21.411 --> 00:32:22.290
which is the highest degree

00:32:22.310 --> 00:32:23.490
you can get in film from

00:32:23.570 --> 00:32:24.592
Full Sail University.

00:32:25.011 --> 00:32:25.872
It was a great honor.

00:32:26.717 --> 00:32:28.217
From there, and while in school,

00:32:28.277 --> 00:32:29.877
I started producing feature

00:32:29.917 --> 00:32:31.877
films with celebrities and actors.

00:32:32.278 --> 00:32:33.318
I was able to create the

00:32:33.358 --> 00:32:35.578
Pettys cartoon with CeCe Pennison,

00:32:35.598 --> 00:32:37.538
the queen of house music,

00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.259
and one of the big people

00:32:39.299 --> 00:32:40.259
from Tropic Thunder.

00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:41.359
I got to work with him for a

00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.220
long period of time,

00:32:42.641 --> 00:32:43.961
assisting him publish his book,

00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:45.020
Brandon T. Jackson,

00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:46.760
and develop his actor state

00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:47.602
of mind courses.

00:32:48.501 --> 00:32:49.261
In the midst of that,

00:32:49.442 --> 00:32:52.442
we sold an episode and a series, the pox,

00:32:52.502 --> 00:32:53.542
excuse me, not an episode,

00:32:56.305 --> 00:32:58.986
So Emmanuel probably put your mind.

00:33:01.047 --> 00:33:01.407
You there?

00:33:01.587 --> 00:33:01.887
Yeah.

00:33:02.067 --> 00:33:03.249
Sorry, we missed you.

00:33:03.388 --> 00:33:04.209
Go ahead.

00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:07.030
Yeah, I had a call coming in.

00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:08.191
Sorry about that.

00:33:08.211 --> 00:33:09.392
Put your mind to it.

00:33:10.471 --> 00:33:11.972
No matter where you are in your life.

00:33:11.992 --> 00:33:13.233
I went to grad school at 30.

00:33:13.634 --> 00:33:15.894
So I went late in life for that degree.

00:33:16.214 --> 00:33:18.876
And it just changed my life monumentally.

00:33:19.537 --> 00:33:19.876
Wow.

00:33:20.257 --> 00:33:20.597
Awesome.

00:33:20.637 --> 00:33:20.998
Carl.

00:33:21.337 --> 00:33:21.617
Yeah.

00:33:22.238 --> 00:33:23.219
Ask this man a question.

00:33:23.459 --> 00:33:23.921
Yeah,

00:33:24.423 --> 00:33:26.212
are you producing horror films or was

00:33:26.252 --> 00:33:27.740
that with the Brandon thing a comedy?

00:33:31.009 --> 00:33:32.609
So with Brandon, it was a comedy.

00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:34.490
I have produced 15

00:33:34.490 --> 00:33:36.290
independent films within the past year.

00:33:36.770 --> 00:33:38.132
And just in the past eight months,

00:33:38.132 --> 00:33:39.751
10 short films, two of them,

00:33:39.771 --> 00:33:40.511
which are horror.

00:33:41.051 --> 00:33:42.553
I like to do a big slate of

00:33:42.553 --> 00:33:43.772
10 short films at a time

00:33:44.212 --> 00:33:45.153
every year to make

00:33:45.472 --> 00:33:46.232
opportunities for my

00:33:46.272 --> 00:33:47.374
friends who are writers and

00:33:47.413 --> 00:33:48.993
directors to actually have

00:33:49.013 --> 00:33:50.634
an opportunity to put their content out.

00:33:50.973 --> 00:33:52.194
I took the role of producing.

00:33:52.335 --> 00:33:53.494
So I helped with budgeting skills.

00:33:54.286 --> 00:33:56.347
scheduling, mapping out.

00:33:56.548 --> 00:33:58.209
I take on any genre as long

00:33:58.250 --> 00:33:59.089
as it's not like hurting

00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:01.251
kids or harming the society.

00:34:02.012 --> 00:34:02.792
Oh, that's amazing.

00:34:03.193 --> 00:34:04.714
Yeah, that's yeah.

00:34:04.775 --> 00:34:05.536
Kudos, brother.

00:34:06.416 --> 00:34:07.657
We'll be we're actually

00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:09.679
working on an independent

00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.221
film event next year.

00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:12.621
So maybe you would like to

00:34:12.681 --> 00:34:13.663
interview you for that.

00:34:14.143 --> 00:34:14.664
Yeah,

00:34:14.724 --> 00:34:18.927
we're working on an indie film event.

00:34:19.088 --> 00:34:20.248
It's going to be a virtual

00:34:20.289 --> 00:34:20.909
thing where we're going to

00:34:20.949 --> 00:34:21.831
get a lot of experts.

00:34:22.331 --> 00:34:23.952
Because when we started this process,

00:34:24.012 --> 00:34:26.153
making this film that we finished,

00:34:26.635 --> 00:34:27.795
there wasn't one place that

00:34:27.815 --> 00:34:28.936
you could go to learn how

00:34:28.956 --> 00:34:30.858
to make a film or even start.

00:34:30.958 --> 00:34:32.639
And obviously, if you're schooling,

00:34:32.659 --> 00:34:33.840
then that's one thing.

00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.442
But this is like for people

00:34:35.461 --> 00:34:36.043
that are just...

00:34:36.717 --> 00:34:37.438
You want to create a

00:34:37.478 --> 00:34:39.318
community around independent filmmaking.

00:34:39.478 --> 00:34:41.599
And be able to go to a place

00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:43.280
and get all this information,

00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:43.960
like how to begin,

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.780
what post-production distribution.

00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:46.900
I wish there was a mobile

00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.322
where you could talk to experts.

00:34:48.402 --> 00:34:49.702
Right?

00:34:49.922 --> 00:34:51.623
I wish you guys could connect somewhere.

00:34:51.842 --> 00:34:53.983
There it is, guys.

00:34:54.182 --> 00:34:55.664
I don't know if you guys

00:34:55.704 --> 00:34:57.483
heard about the Eudaimonia community.

00:34:58.204 --> 00:34:59.704
Yeah, the Eudaimonia community,

00:34:59.764 --> 00:35:03.186
we have filmmakers, we have directors,

00:35:03.226 --> 00:35:03.965
we have writers,

00:35:04.346 --> 00:35:05.626
and it's people who are not

00:35:06.530 --> 00:35:07.891
sitting on their butts it's

00:35:07.951 --> 00:35:09.211
people who are like-minded

00:35:09.472 --> 00:35:10.411
and they're all trying to

00:35:10.431 --> 00:35:11.931
figure out how we build in

00:35:11.952 --> 00:35:13.233
this plane so although

00:35:13.273 --> 00:35:14.233
we're building our own

00:35:14.492 --> 00:35:16.432
america airline delta um

00:35:16.452 --> 00:35:18.253
spirit and and and so on

00:35:18.534 --> 00:35:19.574
we're all looking at the

00:35:19.634 --> 00:35:20.954
same blueprint and building

00:35:20.994 --> 00:35:22.054
it together you see

00:35:22.094 --> 00:35:22.974
everybody's in different

00:35:23.034 --> 00:35:23.974
industries and they can

00:35:24.014 --> 00:35:25.255
bring something particular

00:35:25.576 --> 00:35:27.056
to the uh the field and I

00:35:27.076 --> 00:35:28.096
got that through career

00:35:28.135 --> 00:35:29.617
counseling I learned that

00:35:29.856 --> 00:35:31.157
you can have a skill here that can

00:35:31.873 --> 00:35:32.813
You benefit me there.

00:35:32.974 --> 00:35:33.773
You can have a skill there

00:35:33.813 --> 00:35:34.994
that can benefit me here.

00:35:35.235 --> 00:35:37.675
So once you join our mastermind circle,

00:35:37.996 --> 00:35:38.916
you guys are going to be

00:35:38.956 --> 00:35:40.135
able to leverage everything

00:35:40.155 --> 00:35:41.155
that I went to school for

00:35:41.516 --> 00:35:42.896
right at your fingertips.

00:35:43.077 --> 00:35:43.996
Everything that you went to

00:35:44.016 --> 00:35:45.637
school for right at their fingertips.

00:35:45.918 --> 00:35:46.577
Everything that you've

00:35:46.617 --> 00:35:48.277
learned on the way up or on

00:35:48.297 --> 00:35:49.557
the come up right at the fingertips.

00:35:49.838 --> 00:35:50.139
It's like,

00:35:50.458 --> 00:35:52.099
don't be afraid to be an expert

00:35:52.378 --> 00:35:53.818
and don't be afraid to give it away.

00:35:54.059 --> 00:35:55.079
Because the more you give,

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.000
the more you make a better

00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:57.360
place for the entire world.

00:35:58.161 --> 00:35:58.681
Yeah.

00:35:58.780 --> 00:35:59.740
And what's the name of it?

00:36:01.467 --> 00:36:02.288
Is this a site?

00:36:02.387 --> 00:36:02.748
My.

00:36:02.768 --> 00:36:03.789
Uh-huh.

00:36:04.648 --> 00:36:05.769
It's a site.

00:36:06.150 --> 00:36:06.809
It's a community.

00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:07.530
Awesome.

00:36:07.951 --> 00:36:09.590
It's my.eudaimonia.

00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:14.652
And that's E-U-D-A-I-M-O-N-I-A-T-V.com.

00:36:15.114 --> 00:36:16.753
Let's get more of them on the owl app.

00:36:16.853 --> 00:36:18.155
Because how cool would it be?

00:36:19.094 --> 00:36:19.235
Yeah,

00:36:19.255 --> 00:36:20.956
it would be cool if you could get

00:36:20.996 --> 00:36:22.257
your community on owl and

00:36:22.277 --> 00:36:23.436
then everybody could call

00:36:23.476 --> 00:36:24.637
each other and we get more

00:36:24.677 --> 00:36:25.657
entertainers on here.

00:36:25.677 --> 00:36:26.438
Yeah.

00:36:26.617 --> 00:36:28.059
We're definitely working towards it.

00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:29.940
I've already built owl into my...

00:36:31.536 --> 00:36:32.978
my funnel with the affiliate

00:36:33.018 --> 00:36:33.998
link that I have for the

00:36:34.018 --> 00:36:35.039
referral code that I have

00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:37.862
where I bring my experts in.

00:36:37.882 --> 00:36:38.905
So I'm already doing that

00:36:38.965 --> 00:36:40.847
now and I'm super excited because I,

00:36:40.967 --> 00:36:41.487
a lot of people,

00:36:41.527 --> 00:36:42.509
they just don't know that

00:36:42.548 --> 00:36:43.590
the resources exist.

00:36:44.010 --> 00:36:45.052
And those people who are

00:36:45.092 --> 00:36:46.353
doing the work on a day to day,

00:36:46.432 --> 00:36:46.853
we get it.

00:36:47.284 --> 00:36:48.445
but those people who really

00:36:48.485 --> 00:36:49.905
want to escape the job,

00:36:50.264 --> 00:36:50.846
we got to make it

00:36:50.905 --> 00:36:51.925
accessible for them too.

00:36:52.346 --> 00:36:52.606
Yeah.

00:36:52.865 --> 00:36:53.266
Are you on,

00:36:53.347 --> 00:36:56.427
are you on Instagram or in social media?

00:36:56.728 --> 00:36:58.028
So I'll connect with you there.

00:36:58.048 --> 00:37:00.769
That's all right.

00:37:00.829 --> 00:37:02.070
Yeah, absolutely.

00:37:02.871 --> 00:37:05.112
Even better right after this episode,

00:37:05.351 --> 00:37:07.233
you can look at live in the next hour.

00:37:07.373 --> 00:37:08.572
So when they leave this studio,

00:37:08.612 --> 00:37:10.173
I expect you guys to call him.

00:37:10.893 --> 00:37:12.215
What's your last name?

00:37:12.275 --> 00:37:12.675
Emmanuel.

00:37:15.862 --> 00:37:17.724
sims with two m's sims so

00:37:17.764 --> 00:37:18.963
you search him on the owl

00:37:19.125 --> 00:37:20.346
app you can look up all his

00:37:20.385 --> 00:37:21.365
information his social

00:37:21.405 --> 00:37:23.327
media and you guys can

00:37:23.628 --> 00:37:24.929
connect schedule a call

00:37:24.949 --> 00:37:26.210
whatever so right here

00:37:26.269 --> 00:37:27.070
manuel thank you for

00:37:27.090 --> 00:37:27.831
joining us on the owl

00:37:27.871 --> 00:37:29.371
podcast I really appreciate

00:37:29.411 --> 00:37:30.753
this guys cool check it out

00:37:30.833 --> 00:37:32.534
on linkedin and then and

00:37:32.554 --> 00:37:34.076
then grab this little you

00:37:34.115 --> 00:37:35.356
know slot of course and you

00:37:35.376 --> 00:37:36.318
could see it all on film of

00:37:36.358 --> 00:37:37.358
course so you were talking

00:37:37.378 --> 00:37:38.800
to okay you know I will and

00:37:38.820 --> 00:37:39.739
I'm super proud of you

00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.021
jason man I love what

00:37:41.041 --> 00:37:42.141
you're doing appreciate it

00:37:42.302 --> 00:37:43.123
um you know I got into

00:37:43.871 --> 00:37:45.032
to the owl app and then I

00:37:45.072 --> 00:37:46.432
came back and it's been a

00:37:46.472 --> 00:37:48.094
blessing I actually got to

00:37:48.215 --> 00:37:48.994
because of your your

00:37:49.034 --> 00:37:51.476
program I got to refine my

00:37:51.516 --> 00:37:52.538
brand and I was able to

00:37:52.577 --> 00:37:53.599
come back knowing what it

00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:54.338
is that I'm actually

00:37:54.378 --> 00:37:55.579
selling and I appreciate

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.641
you buddy thank you so much

00:37:56.661 --> 00:37:57.422
for what you love hearing

00:37:57.442 --> 00:37:58.302
that stuff that's the whole

00:37:58.342 --> 00:37:59.003
point we're going to impact

00:37:59.023 --> 00:37:59.943
millions of people together

00:37:59.963 --> 00:38:01.425
yeah thank you

00:38:03.251 --> 00:38:04.371
Well, how cool is that, guys?

00:38:04.411 --> 00:38:06.034
You just took two calls on

00:38:06.074 --> 00:38:06.994
the owl platform.

00:38:07.375 --> 00:38:08.416
It's pretty amazing, right?

00:38:08.596 --> 00:38:08.896
Oh, yeah.

00:38:08.936 --> 00:38:10.038
Connecting to people, learning.

00:38:10.057 --> 00:38:11.298
And the thing that's cool is

00:38:11.338 --> 00:38:14.802
like we have once you start making calls,

00:38:14.943 --> 00:38:16.443
we have our own community.

00:38:16.483 --> 00:38:18.206
So you call someone and they say, oh,

00:38:18.806 --> 00:38:19.768
you're a filmmaker.

00:38:19.827 --> 00:38:22.050
We're going to connect you with Emmanuel.

00:38:22.090 --> 00:38:23.371
Like he knows everyone in the app.

00:38:23.391 --> 00:38:23.992
So he knows, oh,

00:38:24.012 --> 00:38:24.833
this is the person I'm

00:38:24.853 --> 00:38:25.693
going to connect you with.

00:38:25.753 --> 00:38:26.014
So it's.

00:38:27.094 --> 00:38:28.755
Rather than searching through,

00:38:28.896 --> 00:38:29.896
once we have our brand

00:38:29.936 --> 00:38:31.577
ambassadors and our

00:38:31.597 --> 00:38:33.219
different people who are really active,

00:38:33.259 --> 00:38:35.721
that can then lead you

00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:36.661
towards the right people.

00:38:38.902 --> 00:38:39.443
It's amazing.

00:38:40.224 --> 00:38:41.784
It's just the beginning.

00:38:42.846 --> 00:38:43.786
It's just the beginning.

00:38:44.047 --> 00:38:45.148
We are scaling this thing

00:38:45.228 --> 00:38:46.728
quite quickly and more people are

00:38:47.324 --> 00:38:48.565
coming back to download it

00:38:48.605 --> 00:38:50.746
when we were in test mode like him.

00:38:50.826 --> 00:38:52.706
And like he said, like, you know,

00:38:52.726 --> 00:38:53.527
he realized he needed a

00:38:53.567 --> 00:38:54.527
better call to action

00:38:54.628 --> 00:38:55.228
because all of a sudden you

00:38:55.248 --> 00:38:56.108
have a profile and people

00:38:56.148 --> 00:38:57.248
want to chat with you,

00:38:57.289 --> 00:38:58.309
but then you really need

00:38:58.349 --> 00:38:58.949
direction with your

00:38:58.989 --> 00:39:00.490
business to make sure that

00:39:00.510 --> 00:39:01.471
when people are chatting, like, okay,

00:39:01.490 --> 00:39:02.771
well, you know, how do we work together?

00:39:03.032 --> 00:39:03.231
Right.

00:39:03.251 --> 00:39:04.172
And then all of a sudden

00:39:04.193 --> 00:39:05.293
people freeze like, wait, I don't know.

00:39:05.313 --> 00:39:06.414
Should I put him on a website?

00:39:06.434 --> 00:39:07.213
Should I put him on Instagram?

00:39:07.393 --> 00:39:07.554
Right.

00:39:07.594 --> 00:39:09.675
A clear pathway to,

00:39:09.815 --> 00:39:11.215
to partner with people or,

00:39:11.416 --> 00:39:12.237
or do business with people

00:39:12.297 --> 00:39:12.817
at the end of the day.

00:39:12.836 --> 00:39:12.976
Well,

00:39:13.297 --> 00:39:14.358
I want to thank you guys for coming

00:39:14.418 --> 00:39:15.938
out to the owl podcast today.

00:39:16.777 --> 00:39:17.518
everybody listening.

00:39:17.577 --> 00:39:18.259
It's really simple.

00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:20.599
Just head over to the owl app,

00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:21.559
reach out to them.

00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.380
They will be the featured

00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:23.681
experts next week.

00:39:23.740 --> 00:39:24.380
And there will be on our

00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:25.760
newsletter chat one-on-one

00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:26.802
about anything that we

00:39:26.822 --> 00:39:28.262
chatted about during today's episode.

00:39:28.282 --> 00:39:29.182
And of course collaborate.

00:39:29.443 --> 00:39:29.583
Yep.

00:39:29.682 --> 00:39:31.483
And we'll put their social media down.

00:39:31.844 --> 00:39:33.923
And of course I possessed,

00:39:34.264 --> 00:39:34.844
you can check out the

00:39:34.885 --> 00:39:36.364
trailer on YouTube now.

00:39:36.605 --> 00:39:40.327
So go look it up and sign up for, you know,

00:39:40.427 --> 00:39:40.606
the,

00:39:41.186 --> 00:39:42.608
when is it again some

00:39:43.068 --> 00:39:44.710
september no october 29th

00:39:44.851 --> 00:39:47.173
oh october 29th yeah the

00:39:47.253 --> 00:39:49.476
screening yeah in tampa for

00:39:49.496 --> 00:39:50.458
all those floridians out

00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:51.478
there so awesome take care

00:39:51.498 --> 00:39:52.239
everybody we'll be back

00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:53.280
next wednesday around 5 p.m

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:58.367
see you later we're still live awesome