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we are
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live on the owl podcast for
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another amazing episode
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coming up right now and I'm
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joined by my co-host
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danielle centilli and of
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course everyone in this
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room will be on the owl app
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so of course look at the
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details and call them on
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owl they will be the
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featured experts our guests
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to our left and I'm going
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to let danielle centilli do
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the honor to announce our guests today
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Yes,
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because I had the honor of meeting
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these two.
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So Carl Remy, I met at his comedy show.
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He's a pretty famous comedian.
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And the lovely Tammy...
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I'm going to butcher it.
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I was like, I'm nervous.
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It's not that hard.
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I don't know.
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I just couldn't read anymore.
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Okay.
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Anyway, Boothby.
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Yes.
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Amazing episode.
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I had a long day.
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I know.
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Right.
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So they are.
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So I met Carl and I had no
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idea really that what
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today's episode was going
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to be about because they
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have a film that they're
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both filmmakers and it's a
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how would you describe it?
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Thriller.
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Yeah,
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it's a psychological horror film made
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by a comedian.
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I wrote it.
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I wrote most of it.
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And Tammy, she helped produce with me.
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Nice.
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And she's acting.
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You're both acting.
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I saw the trailer.
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You guys, the trailer is out, right?
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah, we have a trailer on YouTube.
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Yeah.
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A magical trailer.
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When does it come out?
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We're working on that.
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It's such a process.
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We started in 2020,
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got pushed because of the pandemic.
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We went pictures up in 2021,
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a year later from April of the pandemic.
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We've been a three-year
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process and finishing up
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now and working on distribution.
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Where does it distribute to?
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What are you working on?
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We have a producer rep,
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this guy named Glenn
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Reynolds from Circus Road.
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He's got our film right now
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and he's going to present it to the
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the big ones netflix you are
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you aiming what are you
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aiming for all the big ones
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we don't uh you know the
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bigger streamers you know
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uh we love a theatrical run
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yeah we'd love a little
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brief theatrical run a
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small theatrical and we'll
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definitely do that because
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it's called it like a day
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and date release in the
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theaters and stuff but cool
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but right now it's a journey like
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you know, distribution phase of any film.
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And this is your first time.
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Yeah, this is our first time.
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And it's called I Possessed, correct?
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Yeah.
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Check out the t-shirt, guys.
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Yeah,
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it's about these five people that go
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to this house and it's haunted.
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The way this house haunts
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them is by their own past
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regrets that are creeping
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out throughout the night.
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And honestly, I was, like,
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not sure how this was going to go.
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I'm like, okay, comedian, like, filmmaker.
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It's hilarious.
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And I, like, checked it out, and I'm like,
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wow, this is really legit.
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Like, the cinematography is amazing.
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It's a very legit movie that
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I would see in a theater.
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Oh, yeah, no, it competes up there.
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The stories, the story production value.
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Yeah, it's amazing.
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It's, like, 100%.
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How graphic are we getting?
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Are we getting, like, the Saw movie?
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No, no, no.
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Psychological.
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Actually,
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we should connect them with... So
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we have on the OWL app... Josh Stolberg,
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who wrote the last couple of song loops.
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The next one's coming out.
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He joined the app about a year ago,
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really liked it,
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and posted about it on Twitter.
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And we have a lot of people
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in the horror film industry.
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I think Steve Batten is on there.
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I know he made Terrified 2,
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I believe it is.
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And it was a very popular
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film because he spent so little money,
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he was telling us,
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And it exploded.
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So everyone's trying to pick
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his brain about how to replicate it,
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of course.
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Reminds me of like the Blair
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Witch Project back in the day.
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And people spent like, I don't know,
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$100,000.
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I don't know what the numbers are,
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of course,
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but compared to like $200
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million to build out a thriller,
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of course, or a horror film.
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Yeah, Paranormal Activity.
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Yeah, those are all, you know, lottery,
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you know, for the independent film.
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But yeah, and that's basically why,
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you know,
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this script had a lot of comedy
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in it initially,
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but horror sells and we
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made a business out of it.
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business decision to kind of
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rewrite this thing three
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months before we shot it
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and kind of turned it full
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horror psychological
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because there's a market for that.
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There's a niche market for that.
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Maybe you can do the bloopers version.
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Oh, we have bloopers.
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The comedy version.
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If it gets big,
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show the version that
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never... We're going to do
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a commentary in the DVDs
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portion and we'll just clown it.
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So how do you go from comedy
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shows to horror film producer?
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How did this all happen?
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Yeah.
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Well, I, I used to do,
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I did 10 years of carnival cruise lines.
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I was doing standup.
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Oh, wait,
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our last guest also does a lot of, yeah,
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he does.
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Yeah.
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He's, he's, he's big in the cruises.
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Yeah.
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He's very,
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he's very good with that environment.
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I, I needed to get off.
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Like,
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i started my career doing
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cruise ships and I was like
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uh you don't really need to
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start here you need to kind
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of end up that's what he
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said as well you know so I
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felt like I was going
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nowhere so I developed a
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nice little drinking
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problem so I went full on
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every day all day and uh
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had a bit of a problem and
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got out got off in 2013
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kind of sobered up trying
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to get my life together and
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then started uh process of
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writing and acting and then
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10 years later i
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Wrote a feature film.
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Wow.
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So, so did it.
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So I couldn't have done it, uh,
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without being sober.
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Now, did you like,
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are you from Florida originally?
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Did you ever make the LA move?
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No, I never did.
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We never went to LA and
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that's because of the cruise ships.
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I think a lot now, you know,
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and I was taking care of my mom.
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She's, she was elder.
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She's older, older.
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She had nobody.
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to do that.
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So I kind of stayed on this
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route cause I was making
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good money on the cruise ships.
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Yeah.
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But you know, I felt lost, you know,
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I felt like, well, this is,
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this is really, cause you know,
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you get judged on a cruise ship,
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you get censored, you know?
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So I felt like I was, you know, kind of,
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um,
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kind of compromising myself as an artist,
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as a comic.
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And so when, once I get off,
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I felt so much fear.
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Yeah.
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I was broke.
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but still broke, but, um,
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but I'd rather be that than, you know,
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just felt like I was stuck and then,
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you know, in a rut every day.
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So, so yeah, but then, um,
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but to, yeah, to make a feature film,
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it's like, I felt like we wanted to,
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to do what felt like the impossible.
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And it's still really,
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we still look back and go,
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we don't even know how we did.
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Yeah.
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Like that's you at the owl app.
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He, every day he's like,
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how did I make this app?
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I'm like two and a half
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years deep into this.
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Everyone's like,
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they just can't fathom it.
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They're like,
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how did you possibly do that?
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And you get the same questions.
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You're like, I just don't understand.
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Like how did, and like,
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you just woke up one day and you're like,
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I'm going for it.
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Right.
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Oh yeah.
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Once you commit, then a lot of things,
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grace will come, you know, you'll get,
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You know,
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things will happen in your in
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your favor along the process.
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And I'm sure like I look at
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you and I'm like baffled by
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how you could possibly do
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both baffled at each other.
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But it comes back down to like just,
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you know,
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being patient and taking time
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with things and learning
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new things and asking for help.
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Right.
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Always like when we're doing
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podcasts as a great example,
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I just had to buy a new camera.
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I just went into a Facebook
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group and posted I need
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help figuring out what camera to buy.
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And then 20 people listed the camera.
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But then I took it a step further.
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I'm like, can I speak with you?
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And thankfully they happen
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to be on the owl platform.
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And I pinged him to, to go live.
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And he got a text message.
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Jason would like to speak with you.
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And I paid for him to chat one-on-one.
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And then within a day I went on Amazon.
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I had the camera.
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But then it turns into another problem.
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Then you're like, okay,
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now how do I really get
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this camera to work?
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Then I'm able to FaceTime
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somebody else to ask for help.
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So at the end of the day,
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it's like you didn't know
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how to start putting this film together,
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but you started by reaching out to people,
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I bet.
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Is that what happened?
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You looked at your phone,
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you looked at your Rolodex,
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and you asked for help?
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Yeah, I didn't even have a Rolodex.
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I had worked with several people,
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so I got them involved initially.
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Not a Rolodex, but you got an iPhone 7.
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Yeah, no, I called around,
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started looking for people, you know,
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and tried to vet them as
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much as we could.
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You know,
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we ended up losing seven grand
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right out the gate.
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That's a good loss.
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We got robbed seven grand
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right out the gate.
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Sometimes you need to lose money to learn.
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You need to lose money to learn.
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And you'd rather lose seven
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in the beginning versus a million.
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I think everybody with a
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creative endeavor has lost
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money or business.
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It's just inevitable.
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That's what happens.
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And you've got to learn who
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to trust and who to be involved with.
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And that was kind of the
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process of making a film is
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learn who to trust and then
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the ones that are skilled in
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their departments.
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Like we had a really good cinematographer.
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We had, you know,
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we had people that were in
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the right place.
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Learning to trust yourself too.
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And learning to trust yourself, which I,
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which I we've learned along
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this whole process.
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Like we are different people
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since when we started this whole journey.
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There's so many people out
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there who say they're
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experts and they're kind of bullies.
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And it's like when they see
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that a production has funding,
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they like come out of the
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woodwork to kind of steal your dream.
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And you really have to stay
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determined and hold on to your dream,
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protect your vision, you know,
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trust yourself.
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And if something doesn't feel right,
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it's not right, you know,
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and stick with the people with integrity,
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which sadly there's a lot
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of people without integrity in this.
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I was talking to like right before this,
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I was at my music studio
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with the producer and he
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was like working.
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He's worked with Billy Joel
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and like I remember like a
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lot of famous people.
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I can't remember like all of them, but.
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Um, he was like, oh, well, you know,
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one of the other famous people, he's like,
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yeah, I, I've worked with him.
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I'm trying to remember.
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It was the guy from, um,
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maybe you guys would recognize him.
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I took a picture.
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It's like one of those.
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uh Roger Waters Roger Waters
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I don't know if you listen
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to like that kind of music
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but anyway he's big and
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like whatever it's not the
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kind of music I listen to
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but um he was like yeah but
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I only like was an engineer
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for Roger Waters twice like
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I don't go out of the gate
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saying I'm Roger Waters
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producer you know and we
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were just talking about how
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people in LA like
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act like, you know,
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if they're session
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guitarists and they had one
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session with a famous person,
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they're like,
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I'm Taylor Swift's guitarists.
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And it's like such bullshit.
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And you just,
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and I love him because he
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really has worked with a
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lot of these famous people
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like in depth and he's so humble.
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And I feel like the people that are real,
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the real deal are, yeah,
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are just truly like humble.
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And we do the same thing in comedy.
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Everybody's a standup comic.
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you know yeah they didn't
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applebee's on a tuesday
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night it reminds me of the
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book authors everyone's the
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number one bestseller yeah
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how could there be this
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many number one books
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number one bestsellers
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right we say it all the
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time we want to like make a
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t-shirt out of it that
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filmmaking the delusion is
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real yeah yeah yeah it
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really is you know and
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everybody's trying to get
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credit for something they
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really didn't they haven't
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done everybody wants to be
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the producer everybody
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wants to be the director
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everybody wants to be
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the award winner.
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It's like, we didn't, we don't,
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we're not in it for awards.
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We don't care.
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We're not trying to get in
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festivals for awards.
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Yeah.
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You just love the process to
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make more art probably.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Keep making.
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Yeah.
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And how did you two connect?
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Tell us the backstory there.
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Well, I,
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I met Carl while I was at his comedy show,
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not really wanting to be at
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a comedy show that day.
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I got dragged and you know,
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I wasn't enjoying the show
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until Carl got up on stage and he just,
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if you know, you saw, when you see him,
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it's just like, how is he not,
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Yeah, yeah.
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How is he not more recognizable?
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And I immediately was just drawn to him.
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And, you know, honestly, and I'm not, like,
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trying to fluff him up or anything,
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but he is the same level as
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Robin Williams.
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I mean, his comedy is outstanding.
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I thought when I saw the show, like,
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all those comedians, I was like,
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how are these people not, like, as big as,
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like, the big Ellen DeGeneres?
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Like, whatever.
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You know, like,
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I can't think of comedians
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off the top of my head.
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A big name.
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yeah yeah yeah did I you
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know I you know got a
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selfie whatever after the
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show and just wanted to
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follow him and his movie
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journey and things and then
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um he followed me back on
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social media and we were
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like who sent the dm first
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uh well I had posted and
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tagged him okay he followed me so
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And then what?
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The rest is history?
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Sounds a little creepy.
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Very creepy.
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I actually sent him a joke idea.
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Which,
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bad idea to send a joke idea to a
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comedian.
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But I still think it's funny.
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Anyway, whatever.
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He politely declined that he
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would ever use that.
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No,
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I said it would be good as seen in a
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film.
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It was.
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And were you like always writing as well?
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Like what's your background
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or you just started producing?
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No, this is so crazy.
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So I worked as a nurse for
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16 years and then I
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transitioned to having an
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online health and wellness business.
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I did a lot of public speaking in that,
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but really filmmaking was
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not really on the, you know,
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the horizon yeah but
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something that I do
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resonate with you know I
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was always that kid on the
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playground that had a big
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heart for sticking up for
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the underdog and wanting to
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be an advocate for people
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without a voice and I
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really see filmmaking as a
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way to have another person
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walk in someone's shoes
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that they may not otherwise
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understand ever you know
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and it's like you're taking
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them on a journey
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and they in in turn may
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hopefully have more
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compassion for people like
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yeah well as a nurse I was
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like you must be full of
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compassion and I'm like the
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big touchy-feely person and
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so that was kind of like
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the running joke during the
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editing process they would
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you know they would get
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through the edits then
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bring me in to see if I got
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chills or if I got
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emotional tears or goosebumps,
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then it's good.
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It's a good scene, you know, and if not,
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we got to go back.
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So were you both on the same
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page when you're like, Hey, let's, let's,
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let's make a horror film.
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Like when did that all come about?
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Here's what I know for sure about Carl.
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I felt a hundred percent in
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my heart that if this guy
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didn't get a chance to
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Like the world is missing
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out on this incredible talent.
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And so, you know, I, you know,
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I'm in his fan club for sure,
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but he felt that way about me too.
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And so we both have this
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like underlying respect and
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belief in each other.
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And then we jumped off a cliff, Carl.
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Got down on one knee and said, baby,
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will you go into debt with me?
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And we did.
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Is this a true story?
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Yeah.
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Is this really happening?
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Yeah, I love that.
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I was doing a gig in late October in 2019,
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and a buddy of mine calls up.
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He goes, hey, call me.
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You still doing film stuff?
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I'm like, yeah.
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He goes, I want to invest, man.
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I want to do something.
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He goes, I got $50,000.
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He's like, I'm like, that was like the,
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we had been talking about
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like getting the jumpstart.
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And that was like what
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kicked us in the motion.
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Like,
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Somebody was going to put in, right?
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The universe was like, it's time.
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Especially for a film.
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Everyone knows 99% of films don't make it.
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No different than apps over here.
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No one wants to put in a mobile app.
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They're like,
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come back when you're a
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little further along.
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Everyone's like, greatest idea ever.
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You want to invest?
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Nope.
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That's the thing.
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Statistically, that is right.
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It's like, yeah.
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Cut to
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the scene now it's like, he was never like,
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he wasn't even serious.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Of course.
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But it propelled us to, to,
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to move forward and do it
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and do it ourselves.
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And that's,
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and that's the thing we put up
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all the risk.
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We had so much risk in this.
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We're producing acting, uh,
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You know,
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trying to get doing stuff that
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everything on set while
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acting and trying to keep everybody there,
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maintain, you know, travel.
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Now,
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is it fully complete or is there more
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scenes?
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No, it's fully complete.
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We're working on some tweaks right now.
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But but the movies is in the can't.
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nine test screenings and
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it's tested really well
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with audiences what we're
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doing now is taking some of
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the feedback and just
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tightening up a few things
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that were confusing or you
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know just there's actually
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one scene that like bugged
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both of us and we're we're
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going to redo this one
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little scene because it'll
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make a bigger impact you
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know based on audience feedback so
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Anyway, it's exciting.
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We're in definitely the final stretch.
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You have a shot to be in the film.
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They need to re-record.
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That was the ultimate goal
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was to just make a badass
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film and then people will take notice.
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This will be our first calling card.
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People are like, what have you done?
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We didn't spare any expense.
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There's nothing we left.
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We have a 40-piece live
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orchestra that did two
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pieces in the film that are
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eight minutes long.
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They were out of Bulgaria and my...
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My score guy wrote the music
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for it and everything.
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We have a soundtrack.
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12 original pieces are in this film.
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Where was everything filmed?
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In Lake Placid, Florida.
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We had a big farmhouse there.
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90% was shot there.
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And then we shot other
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locations for whatever we
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got out of the house.
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Have you guys acted before?
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Yeah, I've done a lot of stuff.
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A lot of indie, low-budget stuff.
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A lot of stuff that wasn't good,
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but I learned a lot through the process.
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What about you?
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I've done a couple things.
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She was an extra in Transformers 3.
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You have a very pretty face.
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I was an extra in Transformers 3.
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You can't see her.
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No.
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What are your favorite
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horror films of all time?
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Well, I'm not really a horror movie person,
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but I did enjoy Sixth Sense and Smile.
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And I would say I Possessed
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is in that vein, like very story driven,
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emotional, you know,
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psychological kind of.
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The girl with the hair
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reminded me of The Ring a little bit.
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I get the dark hair.
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I was like, ooh.
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How about you, Carl?
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Favorite movies, horror films?
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Jaws.
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Jaws, yeah.
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We don't even think of that
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as a horror film.
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I know.
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It's the best horror film ever.
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I forgot about it.
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Obviously, Aliens, The Exorcist.
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Ooh, Predator.
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I love Predator.
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We do an homage to Predator in this film.
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I just always loved like Freddy Cougar.
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Oh, yeah.
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Jason, Friday the 13th.
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Back in the day.
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Little Chucky.
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Oh, Chucky was the best.
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I used to watch a lot as a kid.
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My parents owned a video store.
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Oh, interesting.
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Avant-garde.
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Did you always know you
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wanted to be like in entertainment?
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I mean, I know you didn't, but did you?
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Not until I was like 24.
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I didn't even know how to be
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a stand-up comic.
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My friend backed out of an open mic,
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and I was like, well, I'll do it.
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And then kind of wrote some
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stuff down and then went a week later.
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And then.
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So you just started open mics and.
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Yeah.
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You know, back, back in the nineties,
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you didn't know, like,
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that's how old I'm dating myself,
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but that's how old, you know,
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seven when I started, but, but yeah,
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you didn't,
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it's not like now where you
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can probably find an open mic.
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anywhere yeah where can
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people find you regardless
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besides the cruise right
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not everyone's going on
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carnival cruise lines but
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locally here no just right
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now and you're not on
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cruises anymore right
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because you were like
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absolutely not drinking nah
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I won't go near the
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I work a lot locally.
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I work in Florida.
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Next week,
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I'll be in Bassani's in Port
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Charlotte and then over at Porky's in St.
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Cloud.
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Porky's?
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What is that?
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It's a comedy club.
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I know.
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It's a barbecue spot?
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I'm sure it's a barbecue
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restaurant slash comedy club.
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That's how they play that.
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I don't know if anyone's around Tampa,
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but we are doing another
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film screening free
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screening on October 29th.
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I'll be field trip.
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Yeah.
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I'll be headlining the shows that week.
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This comedy club in Tampa
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and Wesley Chapel.
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Oh, I'm actually in a movie theater.
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I'm going to put it on my calendar.
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Maybe I'll come to Tampa.
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The comedy club is called
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SideSplitters in Wesley Chapel.
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And it's in an actual theater.
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So if you get a ticket to the comedy show,
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you get a free ticket.
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26th through the 28th,
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I'll be performing every night.
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And then the 29th, we'll show the film.
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And that'll be the complete
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final copy of the episode.
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Oh, so you have a deadline.
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And we want people's feedback.
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Because this is like the
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first time showing that cut.
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Oh, yeah.
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We're going to start looking
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up some owl experts that
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are available to call.
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And you guys will get your
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first experience where
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we're going to make an
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outbound call to an owl expert.
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We're going to bring them
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live into this podcast and
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we're going to ask them to
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keep it simple.
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Tell us a little bit about
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themselves in under 30 seconds.
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So we understand their expertise.
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Then what you're going to do
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is you're going to ask them
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a question to really pick
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their brain about a certain topic.
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We had somebody,
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but unfortunately she was a
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hundred bucks for 10 minutes.
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So we're going to quickly call somebody.
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Let's pick on Carolyn.
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Okay.
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Well, that is buzzing.
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We're going to keep this show going.
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Okay.
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So have you done a lot of
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podcasts guys so far?
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Cause that's a good way to
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get the word out.
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Yeah.
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That's going to be as much as I'd like.
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Yeah.
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There is a big podcast group on Facebook.
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I mean,
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Facebook has all the groups I can
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share with you.
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That's really, you can get on anything.
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Yeah.
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Hello.
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Hi, you are live, Carolyn,
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on the OWL podcast.
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And you are here with two
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horror film makers, Carl and Tammy.
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Carl's also a stand-up comedian.
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So do you have any questions
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putting you on the spot here?
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So they just they're almost
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finished with their film
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that they wrote and both
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acted in and they're about
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to put it out in theater soon.
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And yeah,
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if you have any questions for
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them about filmmaking or comedy,
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feel free.
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Oh, of course, I'd have questions.
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I would say what when in
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making a film like that in
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the horror type of genre.
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Are there any like specific
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challenges that you face?
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Just a few, right, guys?
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I'd say it's like building a mobile app.
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It was so easy.
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I did it overnight in my sleep.
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Well, on set,
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if you want to go specifically,
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we had a lot of problems with blood.
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The blood scenes were the most difficult.
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It looked good, though.
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In the trailer, I was like, ooh,
00:22:45.909 --> 00:22:46.648
good blood.
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And we did special.
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We had to do special effects afterwards,
00:22:50.392 --> 00:22:50.892
too.
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But yeah,
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that was probably a lot of
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difficult parts because I
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wasn't familiar with working with blood.
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And I guess that posed a lot
00:22:57.015 --> 00:22:57.615
of challenges.
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Interesting.
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Now, Carolyn, what do you do?
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Do you want to share with
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our audience here?
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Sure.
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So my name is Carolyn Owens,
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and I actually serve as an
00:23:10.604 --> 00:23:12.265
executive and leadership coach.
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I provide organizational
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training and workshops and
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lead cohorts in discussions
00:23:19.170 --> 00:23:21.011
around leadership skills,
00:23:21.311 --> 00:23:23.653
having a true dialogue in a
00:23:23.713 --> 00:23:25.655
way that you don't get to do,
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but conversations in the
00:23:27.076 --> 00:23:28.238
workplace have changed.
00:23:28.778 --> 00:23:30.398
So being able to facilitate
00:23:30.439 --> 00:23:32.559
those in a safe space that
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we learn to have some of
00:23:33.840 --> 00:23:35.701
those leadership skills we need today,
00:23:36.201 --> 00:23:37.962
empathy, communication,
00:23:38.323 --> 00:23:39.824
interpersonal relationship
00:23:40.884 --> 00:23:42.484
in a safe setting.
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So we develop those for all
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levels of leaders.
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But as well as I host a podcast,
00:23:48.768 --> 00:23:49.989
Let's Coach with Carolyn,
00:23:50.308 --> 00:23:51.368
we're about to drop some
00:23:51.449 --> 00:23:52.890
amazing episodes in the
00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:53.810
next couple of weeks.
00:23:53.871 --> 00:23:55.391
So I encourage everybody to
00:23:55.411 --> 00:23:56.211
kind of check it out.
00:23:56.291 --> 00:23:57.952
We have been around for over 10 years.
00:23:58.613 --> 00:24:00.713
And we're on, you know, Apple Podcasts,
00:24:00.733 --> 00:24:03.414
you name it, all the platforms.
00:24:03.454 --> 00:24:04.915
So to Let's Coach with Carolyn,
00:24:05.256 --> 00:24:06.276
check it out and be ready.
00:24:06.296 --> 00:24:07.777
In about two weeks,
00:24:07.797 --> 00:24:08.497
you're going to see some
00:24:08.856 --> 00:24:10.157
great new episodes dropping.
00:24:11.898 --> 00:24:13.638
I would love to know, Carolyn,
00:24:13.798 --> 00:24:15.539
what are your top three
00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:17.201
leadership books that you
00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:18.141
would recommend?
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I'm a personal growth junkie.
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So what would you recommend?
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Oh, cool.
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So, okay, it's kind of,
00:24:27.551 --> 00:24:28.311
I'm going to probably sound
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a little strange because I
00:24:30.113 --> 00:24:32.054
don't really memorize a
00:24:32.134 --> 00:24:33.034
bunch of quotes and
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everything because I want
00:24:34.494 --> 00:24:35.775
people to develop their own.
00:24:36.835 --> 00:24:38.596
How do you embrace your life?
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Did you hear?
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Oh, I thought you said quotes.
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Not quotes.
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Quotes would be hard.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:45.378 --> 00:24:46.858
If you had to do that on the spot,
00:24:46.959 --> 00:24:47.439
good luck.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Cheat a little bit.
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There is one that I will say,
00:24:53.442 --> 00:24:54.223
a quote that's been
00:24:54.423 --> 00:24:56.605
resonating with my groups lately,
00:24:56.625 --> 00:24:58.666
and it's when they go low,
00:24:58.906 --> 00:25:02.589
you go high by Michelle Obama.
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Because we were talking
00:25:03.790 --> 00:25:04.371
about a lot of the
00:25:04.432 --> 00:25:05.732
interactions that you have,
00:25:06.153 --> 00:25:07.153
how when someone is not
00:25:07.233 --> 00:25:08.434
willing to grow and you're
00:25:08.875 --> 00:25:10.476
often in a situation where
00:25:10.516 --> 00:25:11.616
there's a lot of negativity,
00:25:11.876 --> 00:25:12.678
what do you do?
00:25:13.516 --> 00:25:14.977
But that's the quote that's
00:25:15.017 --> 00:25:16.196
been sticking a lot lately
00:25:16.317 --> 00:25:18.377
is when they go,
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I found the answer to that.
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It's easy.
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It's sitting on my desk.
00:25:21.159 --> 00:25:21.999
It's called Starbucks.
00:25:22.898 --> 00:25:23.618
You just give people
00:25:23.659 --> 00:25:25.140
Starbucks and they get in a
00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:27.039
happy mood and it works every time.
00:25:28.580 --> 00:25:28.980
Yeah.
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:29.820
You got me hooked on.
00:25:29.881 --> 00:25:30.862
I was like, wait a second.
00:25:30.922 --> 00:25:31.501
He's not kidding.
00:25:31.922 --> 00:25:33.041
It's like, shit.
00:25:33.342 --> 00:25:34.623
I never drank Starbucks before.
00:25:34.663 --> 00:25:35.722
Now, now I do.
00:25:36.202 --> 00:25:37.364
Now I love my job.
00:25:37.523 --> 00:25:38.523
Now I love it a lot.
00:25:39.644 --> 00:25:40.025
Yeah.
00:25:41.806 --> 00:25:43.548
Do you have any books, though,
00:25:43.628 --> 00:25:44.829
that you would recommend, Carolyn?
00:25:44.849 --> 00:25:44.891
So...
00:25:48.977 --> 00:25:50.157
One that I reread again
00:25:50.238 --> 00:25:51.877
recently was The Four Agreements.
00:25:52.278 --> 00:25:52.739
Oh, yeah.
00:25:52.959 --> 00:25:54.259
I really like that book in
00:25:54.298 --> 00:25:55.279
terms of a personal
00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:57.740
perspective and our own growth,
00:25:58.080 --> 00:25:59.340
but as well as how we
00:25:59.421 --> 00:26:00.801
interact and relate to others.
00:26:02.061 --> 00:26:02.923
I actually got my
00:26:02.942 --> 00:26:04.722
22-year-old son to read it,
00:26:05.124 --> 00:26:06.844
and he was really vested in the book,
00:26:06.903 --> 00:26:08.404
which was great to see
00:26:08.444 --> 00:26:10.526
someone that young diving into it.
00:26:10.986 --> 00:26:11.665
I want to say that's
00:26:11.705 --> 00:26:12.586
probably at the top of my
00:26:13.507 --> 00:26:15.008
list in terms of personal
00:26:15.048 --> 00:26:17.489
growth right now, The Four Agreements.
00:26:17.888 --> 00:26:18.189
Nice.
00:26:18.249 --> 00:26:18.568
Let's see.
00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.569
Oh, gosh, there's so many that I do read.
00:26:22.871 --> 00:26:23.490
Oh, God.
00:26:25.090 --> 00:26:26.330
While she's thinking on one,
00:26:26.471 --> 00:26:27.111
what are your three?
00:26:27.951 --> 00:26:28.511
Or at least one.
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Let's go.
00:26:29.451 --> 00:26:31.211
I know one that totally
00:26:31.251 --> 00:26:32.352
changed my life was How to
00:26:32.372 --> 00:26:33.731
Win Friends and Influence People.
00:26:33.771 --> 00:26:34.673
It's like a classic.
00:26:34.893 --> 00:26:35.573
What's the answer?
00:26:35.813 --> 00:26:36.292
It was great.
00:26:36.333 --> 00:26:37.932
You better sit in 20 seconds or less.
00:26:38.232 --> 00:26:39.393
It's so interesting.
00:26:39.554 --> 00:26:41.334
One thing is to remember
00:26:41.374 --> 00:26:43.054
people's names like that.
00:26:43.074 --> 00:26:44.394
I'm so bad at that.
00:26:45.654 --> 00:26:47.394
I built an app to prevent that if you...
00:26:48.394 --> 00:26:49.236
Your last name, I'm like,
00:26:50.415 --> 00:26:52.037
B. You have to say it a couple times.
00:26:52.076 --> 00:26:57.460
Boothby, Boothby, Boothby.
00:26:57.780 --> 00:26:58.921
To remember someone's name,
00:26:58.980 --> 00:27:01.082
it means so much to that person.
00:27:01.883 --> 00:27:03.723
More than we ever give it credit for.
00:27:03.804 --> 00:27:04.163
I disagree.
00:27:04.183 --> 00:27:05.605
When people don't remember my name,
00:27:05.644 --> 00:27:06.025
I'm like,
00:27:09.550 --> 00:27:10.030
Don't worry.
00:27:10.070 --> 00:27:11.612
I never remember people's names.
00:27:11.672 --> 00:27:12.652
Like, all good.
00:27:13.232 --> 00:27:15.133
But it depends, I guess, some people.
00:27:15.613 --> 00:27:17.773
For me, because I'm so bad at it, like,
00:27:18.454 --> 00:27:20.335
I am like, it's fine, you know?
00:27:20.976 --> 00:27:22.375
Minders just kill people with kindness.
00:27:22.895 --> 00:27:23.436
Often, like,
00:27:23.557 --> 00:27:24.916
everyone expects you to freak
00:27:25.037 --> 00:27:26.438
out back at them, right?
00:27:26.458 --> 00:27:27.478
When they're mean or they do
00:27:27.538 --> 00:27:29.519
something and you're like, you know,
00:27:29.538 --> 00:27:32.599
the typical reaction is push back, right?
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.881
And often, I just always think that, like,
00:27:35.181 --> 00:27:36.582
you know, they're just having a bad day,
00:27:36.602 --> 00:27:37.142
right?
00:27:37.261 --> 00:27:37.821
They're going through a
00:27:37.862 --> 00:27:39.022
struggle you're not aware of.
00:27:39.784 --> 00:27:41.605
And at the end of the day, it's just like,
00:27:42.045 --> 00:27:44.446
it could be a simple thing of saying like,
00:27:44.747 --> 00:27:45.426
good work today.
00:27:45.446 --> 00:27:46.788
It could be a card.
00:27:47.307 --> 00:27:49.548
It could be a $5 item at
00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:51.470
Starbucks or on Amazon.
00:27:51.651 --> 00:27:52.490
Did your wife teach you that?
00:27:52.998 --> 00:27:53.258
She did.
00:27:53.739 --> 00:27:54.538
She's good at that shit.
00:27:54.719 --> 00:27:54.999
Yeah,
00:27:55.019 --> 00:27:56.180
I feel like you're saying she's good
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:56.941
at getting gifts.
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.882
It's just like some people
00:27:59.122 --> 00:28:00.002
will never forget the way
00:28:00.042 --> 00:28:00.923
you made them feel.
00:28:02.984 --> 00:28:04.846
It's not a $10,000 item
00:28:05.046 --> 00:28:06.267
because anyone with money
00:28:06.366 --> 00:28:07.528
can just be like,
00:28:07.587 --> 00:28:08.788
here's this bunch of crap,
00:28:08.848 --> 00:28:09.750
but it didn't make you feel
00:28:09.769 --> 00:28:10.690
that good because it didn't
00:28:10.730 --> 00:28:11.371
mean much to them.
00:28:11.391 --> 00:28:13.112
They just wrote a check.
00:28:13.211 --> 00:28:14.153
Anyone could write a check
00:28:14.173 --> 00:28:15.292
and donate money if they're
00:28:15.313 --> 00:28:15.933
worth a lot of money,
00:28:16.173 --> 00:28:18.154
but not everyone can show
00:28:18.414 --> 00:28:20.576
up at a non-profit event
00:28:21.226 --> 00:28:22.887
and get their hands dirty, right?
00:28:22.907 --> 00:28:23.867
Like everybody else.
00:28:23.948 --> 00:28:25.529
And that means a lot more to
00:28:25.549 --> 00:28:26.150
a lot of people.
00:28:26.570 --> 00:28:27.912
So I'm always a big believer in just,
00:28:28.531 --> 00:28:30.233
just making people, you know, feel good.
00:28:30.693 --> 00:28:31.755
And it's those little touches.
00:28:32.016 --> 00:28:32.215
Yeah.
00:28:33.056 --> 00:28:33.696
You agree, Carolyn?
00:28:35.337 --> 00:28:35.878
I do.
00:28:35.898 --> 00:28:36.700
I do.
00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:39.442
Oftentimes that the quick solution is,
00:28:39.501 --> 00:28:39.761
you know,
00:28:40.722 --> 00:28:42.104
how much money can you do with something?
00:28:42.144 --> 00:28:43.905
But that interaction is priceless.
00:28:44.125 --> 00:28:44.446
Yeah.
00:28:45.267 --> 00:28:45.548
Sure.
00:28:46.268 --> 00:28:46.808
Nice check.
00:28:46.848 --> 00:28:47.429
Doesn't hurt.
00:28:47.449 --> 00:28:48.089
Yeah.
00:28:48.828 --> 00:28:51.353
Anyone out there listening, you guys,
00:28:51.513 --> 00:28:51.894
right?
00:28:51.973 --> 00:28:53.336
We're working on another film.
00:28:53.978 --> 00:28:55.480
Are you fundraising right now?
00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:56.240
We're lucky.
00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:58.203
We want to piggyback off this film.
00:28:58.464 --> 00:28:58.684
Yeah.
00:28:59.425 --> 00:28:59.566
wow,
00:28:59.605 --> 00:29:02.508
you guys are already going to film two.
00:29:02.587 --> 00:29:03.608
Oh yeah.
00:29:03.949 --> 00:29:06.151
Any investors out there for the app,
00:29:06.191 --> 00:29:07.971
for the film, a combination,
00:29:08.172 --> 00:29:09.894
anything like just hit us up.
00:29:09.973 --> 00:29:11.775
We have our information to
00:29:11.815 --> 00:29:14.176
do this one is the next one too.
00:29:14.217 --> 00:29:14.576
Yeah.
00:29:14.777 --> 00:29:16.198
I'll start with one stop here.
00:29:16.218 --> 00:29:16.458
Right.
00:29:16.478 --> 00:29:17.598
We were at one podcast.
00:29:17.638 --> 00:29:19.701
Now we're at like 40 plus.
00:29:19.800 --> 00:29:20.060
Right.
00:29:20.121 --> 00:29:21.362
And, and we,
00:29:21.461 --> 00:29:22.162
we didn't know what we were
00:29:22.182 --> 00:29:23.083
doing the first couple of podcasts.
00:29:23.123 --> 00:29:24.003
I remember the first podcast.
00:29:24.023 --> 00:29:24.364
You were like,
00:29:24.384 --> 00:29:25.325
do you want to ask a question?
00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:25.585
I'm like,
00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:26.750
No, I don't.
00:29:27.871 --> 00:29:29.412
And now I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:29.432 --> 00:29:30.512
I have another podcast.
00:29:30.573 --> 00:29:32.233
I started in 2018 before, you know,
00:29:32.554 --> 00:29:34.115
what podcasting is what it is today.
00:29:34.135 --> 00:29:36.596
And I was nervous as hell, right?
00:29:36.636 --> 00:29:38.057
It started where we weren't on,
00:29:38.317 --> 00:29:40.619
on live streams and I was stuttering,
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:41.901
trying to get people's names, right?
00:29:41.921 --> 00:29:42.881
We're like, Hey, we record,
00:29:42.921 --> 00:29:44.001
I messed up in the beginning.
00:29:44.541 --> 00:29:45.903
And then we had a retake and
00:29:45.942 --> 00:29:46.663
then all of a sudden you
00:29:46.683 --> 00:29:48.244
just get more comfortable with
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.891
know doing it more and more
00:29:49.931 --> 00:29:50.810
like anything else in life
00:29:51.111 --> 00:29:52.011
and then over time like
00:29:52.031 --> 00:29:53.311
let's go live right because
00:29:53.332 --> 00:29:54.113
you have to have confidence
00:29:54.133 --> 00:29:55.433
to go live like you could
00:29:55.473 --> 00:29:56.354
screw up someone's name you
00:29:56.374 --> 00:29:56.913
could screw up their
00:29:56.953 --> 00:29:58.734
business title and just say
00:29:58.775 --> 00:29:59.736
something inappropriate and
00:29:59.756 --> 00:30:01.056
be judged you know by the
00:30:01.096 --> 00:30:02.096
people watching of course
00:30:02.757 --> 00:30:04.397
um but it take but but no
00:30:04.458 --> 00:30:05.659
one got to where they were
00:30:05.679 --> 00:30:07.019
without practice right at
00:30:07.038 --> 00:30:08.279
the end of the day and you
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.381
did film one but I'm sure
00:30:09.421 --> 00:30:10.060
it's going to be so
00:30:10.101 --> 00:30:10.961
different you'll look back
00:30:11.020 --> 00:30:11.721
and be like oh my god
00:30:12.454 --> 00:30:13.016
I can't believe how
00:30:13.056 --> 00:30:14.258
confident we were on film one.
00:30:14.298 --> 00:30:16.079
We were, we were, we knew nothing.
00:30:16.641 --> 00:30:16.800
Right.
00:30:16.840 --> 00:30:17.903
And it's like us with the app.
00:30:17.942 --> 00:30:19.545
Like I knew nothing building a mobile app,
00:30:19.625 --> 00:30:21.126
but then all of a sudden, you know,
00:30:21.147 --> 00:30:22.509
now I'm like, I'm pretty confident.
00:30:22.670 --> 00:30:23.230
And now I'm like,
00:30:23.391 --> 00:30:24.592
I could build app number two, but nope,
00:30:24.732 --> 00:30:25.012
no way.
00:30:25.252 --> 00:30:25.473
Yeah.
00:30:25.865 --> 00:30:26.545
Not going that way.
00:30:26.565 --> 00:30:28.105
Apps are kind of like you
00:30:28.164 --> 00:30:29.445
stay down the current pathway.
00:30:29.905 --> 00:30:30.826
We hope to impact millions
00:30:30.846 --> 00:30:31.486
and millions of people.
00:30:31.726 --> 00:30:33.625
Well, thank you for answering, Carolyn.
00:30:33.885 --> 00:30:34.586
We appreciate it.
00:30:34.606 --> 00:30:35.346
Thank you, Carolyn.
00:30:35.406 --> 00:30:35.807
Yes.
00:30:36.267 --> 00:30:38.186
You can call her on the OWL app, guys.
00:30:38.547 --> 00:30:38.727
Yes.
00:30:39.507 --> 00:30:41.268
You and Tammy are going to hit it off.
00:30:41.288 --> 00:30:41.587
Yes, please do.
00:30:41.607 --> 00:30:42.928
You're going to talk books.
00:30:43.448 --> 00:30:44.807
Well, that was a pretty cool experience.
00:30:44.827 --> 00:30:45.848
We're going to call one more
00:30:46.148 --> 00:30:46.909
person on OWL.
00:30:47.548 --> 00:30:48.368
So we're going to see who
00:30:48.409 --> 00:30:49.269
else is available.
00:30:49.288 --> 00:30:53.369
Why don't you take over while I look?
00:30:54.428 --> 00:30:55.449
Put me on the spot there.
00:30:55.469 --> 00:30:57.211
No.
00:30:58.232 --> 00:31:00.336
I guess, I mean,
00:31:00.536 --> 00:31:02.077
what was the best part of
00:31:02.117 --> 00:31:02.597
making the film?
00:31:02.637 --> 00:31:03.660
Everyone asks, what's hard?
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.760
What are the challenges?
00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:05.781
Like, is there...
00:31:06.601 --> 00:31:08.820
The whole process is amazing
00:31:09.261 --> 00:31:09.842
to be a part of.
00:31:09.862 --> 00:31:12.301
I mean, it's ups and downs with any film.
00:31:12.382 --> 00:31:13.182
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:13.241 --> 00:31:14.522
It's not going to be easy, you know.
00:31:14.583 --> 00:31:17.002
And we endured a lot of the stress,
00:31:17.262 --> 00:31:19.022
I think, more than everybody else.
00:31:19.824 --> 00:31:21.564
But everything was enjoyable.
00:31:22.743 --> 00:31:24.464
Every day when I was on set,
00:31:24.525 --> 00:31:25.744
I took a step back and went
00:31:25.805 --> 00:31:27.444
outside to this big, beautiful farmhouse.
00:31:27.505 --> 00:31:29.605
And every day I was, like, amazed.
00:31:29.625 --> 00:31:30.826
I can't believe we're here doing this.
00:31:30.905 --> 00:31:31.226
Yeah.
00:31:31.246 --> 00:31:32.266
And I want to do it again.
00:31:32.286 --> 00:31:33.165
Yeah.
00:31:33.286 --> 00:31:34.747
Even if I get to never do this again.
00:31:34.767 --> 00:31:35.727
Gratitude is key.
00:31:36.586 --> 00:31:39.028
We are super mindful and like, I'm like,
00:31:39.048 --> 00:31:40.769
okay, guys, I got some, I got some.
00:31:41.368 --> 00:31:42.089
Hey, Emmanuel,
00:31:42.130 --> 00:31:43.970
this is Danielle and Jason Hill,
00:31:44.391 --> 00:31:45.490
the founder of the hour.
00:31:45.530 --> 00:31:45.871
Jason.
00:31:45.931 --> 00:31:46.632
How are you, buddy?
00:31:46.852 --> 00:31:47.511
Not bad.
00:31:47.571 --> 00:31:48.011
Not bad.
00:31:48.051 --> 00:31:49.952
You are live on the owl podcast.
00:31:50.272 --> 00:31:51.634
And how cool is this?
00:31:52.114 --> 00:31:52.374
We,
00:31:52.554 --> 00:31:54.815
we have Carl and Tammy to my left over
00:31:54.855 --> 00:31:56.655
here to watch this live, of course.
00:31:56.935 --> 00:31:59.156
And they are putting out
00:31:59.196 --> 00:32:00.417
their first horror film.
00:32:00.538 --> 00:32:02.278
And I know that you are in the industry.
00:32:03.086 --> 00:32:04.605
So can you tell them a
00:32:04.645 --> 00:32:05.386
little bit about your
00:32:05.446 --> 00:32:06.307
background real quick?
00:32:06.787 --> 00:32:08.586
I'm going to have them ask you a question,
00:32:08.827 --> 00:32:09.107
okay?
00:32:10.428 --> 00:32:10.968
Absolutely.
00:32:11.367 --> 00:32:12.067
Thank you.
00:32:12.087 --> 00:32:13.249
So I've been in the industry
00:32:13.269 --> 00:32:14.888
for about 15 years when it
00:32:14.929 --> 00:32:16.209
comes to content creation.
00:32:16.609 --> 00:32:18.309
I recently went on a path
00:32:18.710 --> 00:32:21.290
and got my MSA in film production,
00:32:21.411 --> 00:32:22.290
which is the highest degree
00:32:22.310 --> 00:32:23.490
you can get in film from
00:32:23.570 --> 00:32:24.592
Full Sail University.
00:32:25.011 --> 00:32:25.872
It was a great honor.
00:32:26.717 --> 00:32:28.217
From there, and while in school,
00:32:28.277 --> 00:32:29.877
I started producing feature
00:32:29.917 --> 00:32:31.877
films with celebrities and actors.
00:32:32.278 --> 00:32:33.318
I was able to create the
00:32:33.358 --> 00:32:35.578
Pettys cartoon with CeCe Pennison,
00:32:35.598 --> 00:32:37.538
the queen of house music,
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.259
and one of the big people
00:32:39.299 --> 00:32:40.259
from Tropic Thunder.
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:41.359
I got to work with him for a
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.220
long period of time,
00:32:42.641 --> 00:32:43.961
assisting him publish his book,
00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:45.020
Brandon T. Jackson,
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:46.760
and develop his actor state
00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:47.602
of mind courses.
00:32:48.501 --> 00:32:49.261
In the midst of that,
00:32:49.442 --> 00:32:52.442
we sold an episode and a series, the pox,
00:32:52.502 --> 00:32:53.542
excuse me, not an episode,
00:32:56.305 --> 00:32:58.986
So Emmanuel probably put your mind.
00:33:01.047 --> 00:33:01.407
You there?
00:33:01.587 --> 00:33:01.887
Yeah.
00:33:02.067 --> 00:33:03.249
Sorry, we missed you.
00:33:03.388 --> 00:33:04.209
Go ahead.
00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:07.030
Yeah, I had a call coming in.
00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:08.191
Sorry about that.
00:33:08.211 --> 00:33:09.392
Put your mind to it.
00:33:10.471 --> 00:33:11.972
No matter where you are in your life.
00:33:11.992 --> 00:33:13.233
I went to grad school at 30.
00:33:13.634 --> 00:33:15.894
So I went late in life for that degree.
00:33:16.214 --> 00:33:18.876
And it just changed my life monumentally.
00:33:19.537 --> 00:33:19.876
Wow.
00:33:20.257 --> 00:33:20.597
Awesome.
00:33:20.637 --> 00:33:20.998
Carl.
00:33:21.337 --> 00:33:21.617
Yeah.
00:33:22.238 --> 00:33:23.219
Ask this man a question.
00:33:23.459 --> 00:33:23.921
Yeah,
00:33:24.423 --> 00:33:26.212
are you producing horror films or was
00:33:26.252 --> 00:33:27.740
that with the Brandon thing a comedy?
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So with Brandon, it was a comedy.
00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:34.490
I have produced 15
00:33:34.490 --> 00:33:36.290
independent films within the past year.
00:33:36.770 --> 00:33:38.132
And just in the past eight months,
00:33:38.132 --> 00:33:39.751
10 short films, two of them,
00:33:39.771 --> 00:33:40.511
which are horror.
00:33:41.051 --> 00:33:42.553
I like to do a big slate of
00:33:42.553 --> 00:33:43.772
10 short films at a time
00:33:44.212 --> 00:33:45.153
every year to make
00:33:45.472 --> 00:33:46.232
opportunities for my
00:33:46.272 --> 00:33:47.374
friends who are writers and
00:33:47.413 --> 00:33:48.993
directors to actually have
00:33:49.013 --> 00:33:50.634
an opportunity to put their content out.
00:33:50.973 --> 00:33:52.194
I took the role of producing.
00:33:52.335 --> 00:33:53.494
So I helped with budgeting skills.
00:33:54.286 --> 00:33:56.347
scheduling, mapping out.
00:33:56.548 --> 00:33:58.209
I take on any genre as long
00:33:58.250 --> 00:33:59.089
as it's not like hurting
00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:01.251
kids or harming the society.
00:34:02.012 --> 00:34:02.792
Oh, that's amazing.
00:34:03.193 --> 00:34:04.714
Yeah, that's yeah.
00:34:04.775 --> 00:34:05.536
Kudos, brother.
00:34:06.416 --> 00:34:07.657
We'll be we're actually
00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:09.679
working on an independent
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.221
film event next year.
00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:12.621
So maybe you would like to
00:34:12.681 --> 00:34:13.663
interview you for that.
00:34:14.143 --> 00:34:14.664
Yeah,
00:34:14.724 --> 00:34:18.927
we're working on an indie film event.
00:34:19.088 --> 00:34:20.248
It's going to be a virtual
00:34:20.289 --> 00:34:20.909
thing where we're going to
00:34:20.949 --> 00:34:21.831
get a lot of experts.
00:34:22.331 --> 00:34:23.952
Because when we started this process,
00:34:24.012 --> 00:34:26.153
making this film that we finished,
00:34:26.635 --> 00:34:27.795
there wasn't one place that
00:34:27.815 --> 00:34:28.936
you could go to learn how
00:34:28.956 --> 00:34:30.858
to make a film or even start.
00:34:30.958 --> 00:34:32.639
And obviously, if you're schooling,
00:34:32.659 --> 00:34:33.840
then that's one thing.
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.442
But this is like for people
00:34:35.461 --> 00:34:36.043
that are just...
00:34:36.717 --> 00:34:37.438
You want to create a
00:34:37.478 --> 00:34:39.318
community around independent filmmaking.
00:34:39.478 --> 00:34:41.599
And be able to go to a place
00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:43.280
and get all this information,
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:43.960
like how to begin,
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.780
what post-production distribution.
00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:46.900
I wish there was a mobile
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.322
where you could talk to experts.
00:34:48.402 --> 00:34:49.702
Right?
00:34:49.922 --> 00:34:51.623
I wish you guys could connect somewhere.
00:34:51.842 --> 00:34:53.983
There it is, guys.
00:34:54.182 --> 00:34:55.664
I don't know if you guys
00:34:55.704 --> 00:34:57.483
heard about the Eudaimonia community.
00:34:58.204 --> 00:34:59.704
Yeah, the Eudaimonia community,
00:34:59.764 --> 00:35:03.186
we have filmmakers, we have directors,
00:35:03.226 --> 00:35:03.965
we have writers,
00:35:04.346 --> 00:35:05.626
and it's people who are not
00:35:06.530 --> 00:35:07.891
sitting on their butts it's
00:35:07.951 --> 00:35:09.211
people who are like-minded
00:35:09.472 --> 00:35:10.411
and they're all trying to
00:35:10.431 --> 00:35:11.931
figure out how we build in
00:35:11.952 --> 00:35:13.233
this plane so although
00:35:13.273 --> 00:35:14.233
we're building our own
00:35:14.492 --> 00:35:16.432
america airline delta um
00:35:16.452 --> 00:35:18.253
spirit and and and so on
00:35:18.534 --> 00:35:19.574
we're all looking at the
00:35:19.634 --> 00:35:20.954
same blueprint and building
00:35:20.994 --> 00:35:22.054
it together you see
00:35:22.094 --> 00:35:22.974
everybody's in different
00:35:23.034 --> 00:35:23.974
industries and they can
00:35:24.014 --> 00:35:25.255
bring something particular
00:35:25.576 --> 00:35:27.056
to the uh the field and I
00:35:27.076 --> 00:35:28.096
got that through career
00:35:28.135 --> 00:35:29.617
counseling I learned that
00:35:29.856 --> 00:35:31.157
you can have a skill here that can
00:35:31.873 --> 00:35:32.813
You benefit me there.
00:35:32.974 --> 00:35:33.773
You can have a skill there
00:35:33.813 --> 00:35:34.994
that can benefit me here.
00:35:35.235 --> 00:35:37.675
So once you join our mastermind circle,
00:35:37.996 --> 00:35:38.916
you guys are going to be
00:35:38.956 --> 00:35:40.135
able to leverage everything
00:35:40.155 --> 00:35:41.155
that I went to school for
00:35:41.516 --> 00:35:42.896
right at your fingertips.
00:35:43.077 --> 00:35:43.996
Everything that you went to
00:35:44.016 --> 00:35:45.637
school for right at their fingertips.
00:35:45.918 --> 00:35:46.577
Everything that you've
00:35:46.617 --> 00:35:48.277
learned on the way up or on
00:35:48.297 --> 00:35:49.557
the come up right at the fingertips.
00:35:49.838 --> 00:35:50.139
It's like,
00:35:50.458 --> 00:35:52.099
don't be afraid to be an expert
00:35:52.378 --> 00:35:53.818
and don't be afraid to give it away.
00:35:54.059 --> 00:35:55.079
Because the more you give,
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.000
the more you make a better
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:57.360
place for the entire world.
00:35:58.161 --> 00:35:58.681
Yeah.
00:35:58.780 --> 00:35:59.740
And what's the name of it?
00:36:01.467 --> 00:36:02.288
Is this a site?
00:36:02.387 --> 00:36:02.748
My.
00:36:02.768 --> 00:36:03.789
Uh-huh.
00:36:04.648 --> 00:36:05.769
It's a site.
00:36:06.150 --> 00:36:06.809
It's a community.
00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:07.530
Awesome.
00:36:07.951 --> 00:36:09.590
It's my.eudaimonia.
00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:14.652
And that's E-U-D-A-I-M-O-N-I-A-T-V.com.
00:36:15.114 --> 00:36:16.753
Let's get more of them on the owl app.
00:36:16.853 --> 00:36:18.155
Because how cool would it be?
00:36:19.094 --> 00:36:19.235
Yeah,
00:36:19.255 --> 00:36:20.956
it would be cool if you could get
00:36:20.996 --> 00:36:22.257
your community on owl and
00:36:22.277 --> 00:36:23.436
then everybody could call
00:36:23.476 --> 00:36:24.637
each other and we get more
00:36:24.677 --> 00:36:25.657
entertainers on here.
00:36:25.677 --> 00:36:26.438
Yeah.
00:36:26.617 --> 00:36:28.059
We're definitely working towards it.
00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:29.940
I've already built owl into my...
00:36:31.536 --> 00:36:32.978
my funnel with the affiliate
00:36:33.018 --> 00:36:33.998
link that I have for the
00:36:34.018 --> 00:36:35.039
referral code that I have
00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:37.862
where I bring my experts in.
00:36:37.882 --> 00:36:38.905
So I'm already doing that
00:36:38.965 --> 00:36:40.847
now and I'm super excited because I,
00:36:40.967 --> 00:36:41.487
a lot of people,
00:36:41.527 --> 00:36:42.509
they just don't know that
00:36:42.548 --> 00:36:43.590
the resources exist.
00:36:44.010 --> 00:36:45.052
And those people who are
00:36:45.092 --> 00:36:46.353
doing the work on a day to day,
00:36:46.432 --> 00:36:46.853
we get it.
00:36:47.284 --> 00:36:48.445
but those people who really
00:36:48.485 --> 00:36:49.905
want to escape the job,
00:36:50.264 --> 00:36:50.846
we got to make it
00:36:50.905 --> 00:36:51.925
accessible for them too.
00:36:52.346 --> 00:36:52.606
Yeah.
00:36:52.865 --> 00:36:53.266
Are you on,
00:36:53.347 --> 00:36:56.427
are you on Instagram or in social media?
00:36:56.728 --> 00:36:58.028
So I'll connect with you there.
00:36:58.048 --> 00:37:00.769
That's all right.
00:37:00.829 --> 00:37:02.070
Yeah, absolutely.
00:37:02.871 --> 00:37:05.112
Even better right after this episode,
00:37:05.351 --> 00:37:07.233
you can look at live in the next hour.
00:37:07.373 --> 00:37:08.572
So when they leave this studio,
00:37:08.612 --> 00:37:10.173
I expect you guys to call him.
00:37:10.893 --> 00:37:12.215
What's your last name?
00:37:12.275 --> 00:37:12.675
Emmanuel.
00:37:15.862 --> 00:37:17.724
sims with two m's sims so
00:37:17.764 --> 00:37:18.963
you search him on the owl
00:37:19.125 --> 00:37:20.346
app you can look up all his
00:37:20.385 --> 00:37:21.365
information his social
00:37:21.405 --> 00:37:23.327
media and you guys can
00:37:23.628 --> 00:37:24.929
connect schedule a call
00:37:24.949 --> 00:37:26.210
whatever so right here
00:37:26.269 --> 00:37:27.070
manuel thank you for
00:37:27.090 --> 00:37:27.831
joining us on the owl
00:37:27.871 --> 00:37:29.371
podcast I really appreciate
00:37:29.411 --> 00:37:30.753
this guys cool check it out
00:37:30.833 --> 00:37:32.534
on linkedin and then and
00:37:32.554 --> 00:37:34.076
then grab this little you
00:37:34.115 --> 00:37:35.356
know slot of course and you
00:37:35.376 --> 00:37:36.318
could see it all on film of
00:37:36.358 --> 00:37:37.358
course so you were talking
00:37:37.378 --> 00:37:38.800
to okay you know I will and
00:37:38.820 --> 00:37:39.739
I'm super proud of you
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.021
jason man I love what
00:37:41.041 --> 00:37:42.141
you're doing appreciate it
00:37:42.302 --> 00:37:43.123
um you know I got into
00:37:43.871 --> 00:37:45.032
to the owl app and then I
00:37:45.072 --> 00:37:46.432
came back and it's been a
00:37:46.472 --> 00:37:48.094
blessing I actually got to
00:37:48.215 --> 00:37:48.994
because of your your
00:37:49.034 --> 00:37:51.476
program I got to refine my
00:37:51.516 --> 00:37:52.538
brand and I was able to
00:37:52.577 --> 00:37:53.599
come back knowing what it
00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:54.338
is that I'm actually
00:37:54.378 --> 00:37:55.579
selling and I appreciate
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.641
you buddy thank you so much
00:37:56.661 --> 00:37:57.422
for what you love hearing
00:37:57.442 --> 00:37:58.302
that stuff that's the whole
00:37:58.342 --> 00:37:59.003
point we're going to impact
00:37:59.023 --> 00:37:59.943
millions of people together
00:37:59.963 --> 00:38:01.425
yeah thank you
00:38:03.251 --> 00:38:04.371
Well, how cool is that, guys?
00:38:04.411 --> 00:38:06.034
You just took two calls on
00:38:06.074 --> 00:38:06.994
the owl platform.
00:38:07.375 --> 00:38:08.416
It's pretty amazing, right?
00:38:08.596 --> 00:38:08.896
Oh, yeah.
00:38:08.936 --> 00:38:10.038
Connecting to people, learning.
00:38:10.057 --> 00:38:11.298
And the thing that's cool is
00:38:11.338 --> 00:38:14.802
like we have once you start making calls,
00:38:14.943 --> 00:38:16.443
we have our own community.
00:38:16.483 --> 00:38:18.206
So you call someone and they say, oh,
00:38:18.806 --> 00:38:19.768
you're a filmmaker.
00:38:19.827 --> 00:38:22.050
We're going to connect you with Emmanuel.
00:38:22.090 --> 00:38:23.371
Like he knows everyone in the app.
00:38:23.391 --> 00:38:23.992
So he knows, oh,
00:38:24.012 --> 00:38:24.833
this is the person I'm
00:38:24.853 --> 00:38:25.693
going to connect you with.
00:38:25.753 --> 00:38:26.014
So it's.
00:38:27.094 --> 00:38:28.755
Rather than searching through,
00:38:28.896 --> 00:38:29.896
once we have our brand
00:38:29.936 --> 00:38:31.577
ambassadors and our
00:38:31.597 --> 00:38:33.219
different people who are really active,
00:38:33.259 --> 00:38:35.721
that can then lead you
00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:36.661
towards the right people.
00:38:38.902 --> 00:38:39.443
It's amazing.
00:38:40.224 --> 00:38:41.784
It's just the beginning.
00:38:42.846 --> 00:38:43.786
It's just the beginning.
00:38:44.047 --> 00:38:45.148
We are scaling this thing
00:38:45.228 --> 00:38:46.728
quite quickly and more people are
00:38:47.324 --> 00:38:48.565
coming back to download it
00:38:48.605 --> 00:38:50.746
when we were in test mode like him.
00:38:50.826 --> 00:38:52.706
And like he said, like, you know,
00:38:52.726 --> 00:38:53.527
he realized he needed a
00:38:53.567 --> 00:38:54.527
better call to action
00:38:54.628 --> 00:38:55.228
because all of a sudden you
00:38:55.248 --> 00:38:56.108
have a profile and people
00:38:56.148 --> 00:38:57.248
want to chat with you,
00:38:57.289 --> 00:38:58.309
but then you really need
00:38:58.349 --> 00:38:58.949
direction with your
00:38:58.989 --> 00:39:00.490
business to make sure that
00:39:00.510 --> 00:39:01.471
when people are chatting, like, okay,
00:39:01.490 --> 00:39:02.771
well, you know, how do we work together?
00:39:03.032 --> 00:39:03.231
Right.
00:39:03.251 --> 00:39:04.172
And then all of a sudden
00:39:04.193 --> 00:39:05.293
people freeze like, wait, I don't know.
00:39:05.313 --> 00:39:06.414
Should I put him on a website?
00:39:06.434 --> 00:39:07.213
Should I put him on Instagram?
00:39:07.393 --> 00:39:07.554
Right.
00:39:07.594 --> 00:39:09.675
A clear pathway to,
00:39:09.815 --> 00:39:11.215
to partner with people or,
00:39:11.416 --> 00:39:12.237
or do business with people
00:39:12.297 --> 00:39:12.817
at the end of the day.
00:39:12.836 --> 00:39:12.976
Well,
00:39:13.297 --> 00:39:14.358
I want to thank you guys for coming
00:39:14.418 --> 00:39:15.938
out to the owl podcast today.
00:39:16.777 --> 00:39:17.518
everybody listening.
00:39:17.577 --> 00:39:18.259
It's really simple.
00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:20.599
Just head over to the owl app,
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:21.559
reach out to them.
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.380
They will be the featured
00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:23.681
experts next week.
00:39:23.740 --> 00:39:24.380
And there will be on our
00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:25.760
newsletter chat one-on-one
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:26.802
about anything that we
00:39:26.822 --> 00:39:28.262
chatted about during today's episode.
00:39:28.282 --> 00:39:29.182
And of course collaborate.
00:39:29.443 --> 00:39:29.583
Yep.
00:39:29.682 --> 00:39:31.483
And we'll put their social media down.
00:39:31.844 --> 00:39:33.923
And of course I possessed,
00:39:34.264 --> 00:39:34.844
you can check out the
00:39:34.885 --> 00:39:36.364
trailer on YouTube now.
00:39:36.605 --> 00:39:40.327
So go look it up and sign up for, you know,
00:39:40.427 --> 00:39:40.606
the,
00:39:41.186 --> 00:39:42.608
when is it again some
00:39:43.068 --> 00:39:44.710
september no october 29th
00:39:44.851 --> 00:39:47.173
oh october 29th yeah the
00:39:47.253 --> 00:39:49.476
screening yeah in tampa for
00:39:49.496 --> 00:39:50.458
all those floridians out
00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:51.478
there so awesome take care
00:39:51.498 --> 00:39:52.239
everybody we'll be back
00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:53.280
next wednesday around 5 p.m
00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:58.367
see you later we're still live awesome