You Can't Afford Me
You Can't Afford Me
From Rings to Riches: The Grit and Strategy behind Boxing and Business Success
Every punch in the ring tells a story, and this episode is no exception as we're joined by prizefighter Immanuel and his gym comrade BJ. Together, we navigate the raw and profound narratives etched in the sweat and dedication of their boxing lives. From Immanuel's first gloves-up moment at 13 to BJ's respect for his friend's tenacity, brace yourself for a gritty look at how the sport molds not just athletes but people of formidable spirit.
Amidst the sounds of jabs and hooks, we also peel back the curtain on the often-overlooked support systems that buttress the world of professional fighters and entrepreneurs. I share the critical role my wife plays in grounding me, and we discuss how balancing relationships—with a nod to heavyweight icons like the Charlo twins and Earl Spence—can be the linchpin in both personal and professional arenas. Whether it's a partner's unyielding support or the fine balance of career and family, you'll discover the vital synergy that champions both in and out of the ring.
As we close this round, the conversation shifts to the evolving arena of boxing and the intelligent strategies fighters employ for career longevity. You'll gain insights into the meticulous mental preparation and visionary goal-setting that define a boxer's roadmap to success. Moreover, we cannot ignore the digital age; I spotlight how companies like Enso Media are revolutionizing the game with personalized digital marketing strategies that pack a punch. So fix your earbuds, and prepare to be struck by powerful tales of endurance and the strategic mastery behind the sport and business.
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Sam:Hey guys, thanks for joining us on another episode of the you Can't Afford Me podcast. I'm not going to lie to y'all, I'm a little scared. Today we got a prize fighter he's got his championship belts sitting on the table right now, so I know he can knock me out and we got his backup muscle. Bj is back in the building for this podcast, but you guys welcome Emmanuel and BJ back to the podcast. How are you guys doing today Feeling good, awesome, feeling great, awesome, all right. So first I got a ton of questions and I was actually, while we were just chit-chatting before we hit record, I was preventing myself from asking you questions because I'm like, let me wait until the mic's hot. First off, how did you get started in boxing my brother?
Immanuel:he decided he wanted to try something different and he looked for boxing, which was a different sport at the time. I wasn't really into it because I was kind of a nut around the neighborhood in school and used to be a clown a little bit.
BJ:I used to fight a lot.
Immanuel:So when I went there I seen I had to get in trouble.
Sam:How old were you when you got into it? Twelve, twelve, wow. So you started sparring at 12 years old. Yeah, jeez.
Immanuel:I was sparring around the neighborhood first.
Sam:Yeah, I'm sure. Sure a lot of neighborhood knockouts. When did you first have like an official fight in the ring? How old were you?
Immanuel:13.
Sam:Jeez that young.
Immanuel:Yeah.
Sam:So you've been knocking Negroes out for years, man. So what would make you? I know you said your brother started, but we all know like boxing is a tough sport, like I said to you before we started, like you're a maniac man If you get in the ring with another man who's trying to kill you and you're trying to do the same to him, like there's something different with your wiring than it is for the rest of us, I've been told. So what is it that, like you know, your brother helped you get started, but what is it that really made this click for you and say, like this is something I want to roll with hardcore.
Immanuel:It's the fight. I guess I'm just a fighter at heart and finding out that my great-grandfather used to box at one point, and just, I'm a fighter, I don't quit. So being able to be, in a sport like that, where you get to give your all like a gladiator and just I'm a fighter. I don't quit. So being able to be in a sport like that, where you get to give your all like a gladiator and you get rewarded for that, that was the fighting spirit in me, love it, love it.
Sam:BJ, I've seen some stuff on your timeline. You're obviously in the boxing. I saw when he won his last belt, you were there right in the front row After he came out in the lobby, he had the belts. You were there right in the front row, like after he came out of the lobby had the belts. You were there cheering him on.
Speaker 4:First off, what's y'all's relationship? How did y'all come to know each other? I came to know him when I joined his father's gym, and I had heard about Emmanuel for a long time, for years. That's a fighter's name right there too.
Sam:Yes, it is so.
Speaker 4:I'm on TV.
Sam:Yeah, I was surprised when he came into the gym I was like oh, that's Emmanuel the gym.
Speaker 4:I was like, oh, that's my man, willow Wing, and we just started communicating and going through ideas and we just clicked. But he's just an awesome person to know and he has just so far to go. He's going to be amazing. He already is. What is it that you love about the sport? Well, I joined the gym because I just wanted to diversify my workouts and I was tired of just going to track running and doing push-ups. I said you know what I want to intensify?
Sam:I didn't know what I was really stepping into. As entrepreneurs, it's good for us to hit something sometimes that doesn't hit us back.
Speaker 4:Oh yes yes, yes, and the thing about that you learn at 9th Dimension you don't play boxing, so it kind of absorbs you. Yeah, and before you know it, they've got me, you know, training. On a more serious note, and I got into the shape of my life and this guy's, this guy's been an inspiration to me nice, Nice.
Sam:Yeah, the potential trainer I'm talking to now and I may have to talk to you guys, but I can come to work out with y'all. I always think it's better to work out with people that are on a whole other level. Same thing in business. I want to be the dumbest one in the room whenever I walk in.
Sam:I want to be able to soak up knowledge from everybody else, but just talking to him I was like man. I just feel like I'm at the age where, not just for the workouts because boxing workouts are great workouts but just being a protector for my family Like I got a wife and two kids and if somebody come through the door, acting funny, if the Glock ain't right there, I got to be able to do something.
Sam:So getting that training in? Emmanuel, let me ask you this because a lot of people think you know, with MMA coming into the scene and boxing really not being what it used to be. So I come from that area. We were talking about Mike Tyson and Jake Paul earlier. Yeah, I come from that area where, like you went to the kitchen real quick to get a snack and you came back in the room Mike Tyson had already knocked dude out. So that era with, like, muhammad ali's, your mike tyson, your sugar rays, like all those guys, and then, uh, last one for me was money mayweather. What do you think about how the sport is transitioning? If somebody says, like boxing what it used to be, what's your response to that?
Immanuel:I think boxing is at a elite level right now. I love the fact that it's in a conversation where random people just want to decide to box now. It wasn't like that in the past. I was just talking to my father like that last night that you know, when you used to fight, you wasn't somebody that just like oh, I want to fight, like you really had to have a problem, or something like that as a fighter.
Immanuel:Now it's like oh, they see the money involved, they see the advertising. Now fighters want to come in and be a part of. It was like that. I used scared to fight cuz you didn't want to get beat up. Oh yeah, who's this?
Sam:and everything and it used to be what they call the poor man's for you. You didn't come for money and get in the boxing ring. It was people that were from projects, from the hood. Those were the only people boxing. But you're saying like that, you kind of change that change.
Immanuel:Now the I see the mentality of the sports just like hey, they see this, you can make a profit off this. I can get beat up, I get knocked down, I still make a profit. Now it's more of people are taking chances. Now they're diversifying it. It wasn't like that at first. It was just sheltered. It was just one way You're fighting. If you was rough, and rugged and you had the story of building up and everything and all the trauma. Then that was the fight. Now it's like that's out the window.
Sam:Talk to us. I don't want to get too far. Talk to us about your accolades, so tell us the championship belts that you just won. Kind of run through your career for us.
Immanuel:Yeah, I have the WBC Silver Middleweight Championship that I won in 2017. That's the one that started everything, because that's the bread and butter of me fighting on Showtime with Javante Davis.
Sam:Badou Jack versus the gals, the main event. It was Hold on pause, pause, pause, Did this man just say he was on?
Immanuel:Showtime. Yeah, I was on Showtime. I've been on TV about 10 times, up to 10 times ESPN, fox Sports 1, fox, pretty much all the networks, and I got the last big tale of the Fox Sports ones. I was pretty much one of the main or co-mains at that time.
Sam:Nice.
Immanuel:So, yeah, this one started off the most because I fought against an undefeated fighter who was 14 and 0 at the time, number two in the WBC in the world, and he had 500 amateur fights. He was an Olympian, wow. So my odds were stacked against me. They didn't think I was going to have a chance. They probably thought I was nobody, just a name put on the record. I shocked the world on that one.
Sam:Man.
Immanuel:Thank whatever system they had going on.
Sam:So how does that? When you come in as the underdog and like, quote, unquote a no, no name against a guy like that, what did that instantly do for your career after that fight?
Immanuel:It stamped me. It put a stamp that I'm here and I showed the world what I can do. Now they want to see more of me. That's what's up.
Sam:That's what's up All right, give us the other two belts.
Immanuel:The other two belts I just won recently the WBC Fekker Box Super Middleweight Championship and the UBO Continental Championship. Just won about three weeks ago, yeah, on February 24th, at the Live Maryland Casino. And this is me going up a weight class at Super Middleweight. Just me coming back from almost three years of managerial issues and trying to get myself back and everything back on the right championship path. And I love this fight because I was back with my father, back with my brother. In my corner, my homie Sheldon there's a great cut man slash trainer, the love, my family, everybody here. Like this pathway here. I feel like it's going to be endless, nice, endless collections.
Sam:Love that, love that. All right, so let me cut back because I want to talk about the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, and this is probably going to be the biggest clip that we have from this episode going out on Instagram. Let's start with you, bj, break it down about this Tyson-Jake Paul fight.
Speaker 4:How do you think this thing's going to turn out? I'm a big Mike Tyson fan. I grew up on Mike Tyson. I mean, who ain't?
Sam:Mike is the bulldog man.
Speaker 4:Yes, he is, yes, he is. I learned that it's not wise to go against Tyson. Yes, you have Jake Paul who is coming up. He's not as experienced as a Tyson. He's a formidable fighter.
Sam:I will say let me pause you right there, because when he first came out, him and his brother and they were doing all about they were like man, come on, man, these YouTubers trying to get in here with killers, Y'all made a wrong career path here. But other than his brother, I think Jake got real serious about his training. Yes, and he ain't no slouch, but he's still not at the level of Mike.
Speaker 4:Those guys are big guys. They're athletes. They were athletes in high school. They both wrestled in high school Strong guys. Jake is extremely committed, but I believe he's going against a big wall, A titan in fact.
Sam:Any time you fight the dude who put a tattoo on his face. I'm scared to get a tattoo anywhere on my body. I know the face has to hurt like you wouldn't believe that dude crazy and he will kill you.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, yes, it says a lot Just ferocious, and you know, one of the things I admired about Aleem here is that his style the ferocious and you know, one of the things I admired about Alim here is that his style, the ferociousness in the ring is very similar, very, very similar. So I've learned. You don't bet against Tyson, yeah. You don't bet against Alim, yeah, yeah what about?
Sam:what about you? What are your thoughts of that fight?
Immanuel:you can go two different, two ways either Jakeake paul's very athletic and tyson's old and he can't move what he can't do, or tyson's just gonna eat him out.
Sam:To me. This is like rocky is my favorite movie of all time, like if I could only watch one movie for the rest of my life is rocky, um. This reminds me of like when rocky was coming back in his old age and they were training. He was like you're not going to beat this kid on stamina, you're not going to outwork him, we just got power punching blows. I need every hit that you make to have such a huge impact that this guy regrets getting in the ring with you. I think that's the approach that they're probably going to have to take with Tyson. I don't know how many rounds.
Immanuel:I don't think they've announced that how many rounds they're doing this fight Just getting hit by that first punch. One punch changes everything.
Sam:Everybody got a game plan. That's Mike's point.
Immanuel:It changed the whole game plan Survival because of the game plan Exactly?
Sam:What do you feel that that helps the sport of boxing?
Immanuel:huge, huge. It gets to more homes to let more people see. Like I said, the conversation with boxing was minimal in the past it was like if you know a good fighter, you know, if you know you're like fighting. Now it's like a constant conversation, yeah, so to have that obtainable to everybody, that's huge, nice. What?
Speaker 4:about you um, whatever gap there seemed to be happening between mma and boxing, I believe that that gap has been eliminated with this. We have netflix. It has over 250 million subscribers.
Sam:I mean, you know, you have and all the people are getting the free accounts too. I know they cut that down people still find ways around. Yeah, they find their way so call it 300 million, because at least 50 million out there getting it for free.
Speaker 4:Setting it off with an explosive theatrical event. You have the return of Mike Tyson, who was arguably the biggest boxer in the world, especially in the 90s. He certainly was Late 80s, early 90s. Oh my goodness.
Sam:And apparently I think this has been in the works for a while. Jamie foxx is supposed to play mike tyson in the movie yeah at some point in the next couple years. I think they've already been in production because jamie foxx had some health issues like a year ago or something like that, but I think they're back on track to get that film.
Sam:Lose a game, weeks those those guys train, so that's a perfect segue. Let's talk about your training. So what does that look like? First off, do you have another job, or is boxing all you focus on?
Immanuel:well now. Boxing was always the main job. But through, through tribulations and hard times, you know you have to put find something on the side to do, and I was doing that at the um recently. But now I'm giving 100 to my boxing. Now I see I know where it can take me. But now I just I'm back in a position where I have full control of everything that's going on. Yeah, and that helps me figure out how to be more comfortable going forward.
Sam:Yeah, betting on yourself. Yeah, big fan of that Bet on yourself. So talk us through your training regimen. What does it look like Monday through Friday for you? Or it might be Monday through Friday for you, or it might be Monday through Sunday.
Immanuel:Yeah, it is pretty much almost Monday to Sunday. Sunday now is my recovery day. I've learned to listen to my woman in my relationship to hey, you need a day of rest. And going through the camps with you know, jamel Charlo, jamal Charlo, earl Spence, you know I'm able to figure out how to manage my body a lot better because that's that's a lot of wear and tear and you just dropped a bar right there.
Sam:I want to make sure people picked up. Your woman told you yeah, hey, man, you need a day right, there's a bar in that where, like I'm the type of person where business is my hobby. I will work 24 7 if I can. I'm praying for the day in my lifetime where you can just take a pill and you don't have to sleep anymore and I can just be up 24-7 because I will crush. But my wife has to. If it wasn't for her, I'd never take a vacation. It would just be go, go, go nonstop. So, finding a woman whether you're going out and boxing, because ultimately consider you an entrepreneur you bet on yourself. You're your own brand. You went out there and made it happen for yourself. Finding the right partner to go along with you on that journey is critical. A woman can make or break a man.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Sam:You know we talk. Go to your Bible days, Samson.
Speaker 4:A lot of love.
Sam:There have been so many men that their downfall has been a female, and there have been so many men that their come up has been a female. So let's pause right there. I know we're gonna keep going with the training, but talk about your relationship and how that's helped you through this process.
Immanuel:Well, my relationship me and her have been together for since 2013, so that's 11 years yeah, and it's been, it's been a journey, it's been a great journey.
Immanuel:We have a a strong relationship, strong bond, and it keeps me comfortable, it kind of what's the word comforts me in the time of me after doing all the training and the hard work I get to, you know, be regular. I don't get to be Tyson if I'm in the gym that mode when I cut it on, it's hard to just come down with that Like when I'm working or I'm attacking something, I'm just ready to keep going, keep going. And then for her to mellow me down, which took time over the years, which took time over the years, I'm sure.
Sam:It's been great, though, but a man needs, because I don't think I mean I'll say this to women in general I don't think women truly understand, like right now I've been on some fitness goals. So, like when I started this journey, I was at like 187, 188. I was weighing myself this morning. I'm at like 179. And my goal was to be back in the 170s. Um, and I texted my wife this morning and I was like hey, I'm in the 170 club again and she's like it is so easy for you guys.
Sam:I was like no no, no, no, no no I've been working my butt off man, like eating all the right foods, like making sure I'm getting in the gym five days a week, getting the right workouts, like studying medical stuff, nutrition and everything like that. I was like it ain't easy, but I think women just don't understand the pressure that's on a man's shoulder sometimes.
Immanuel:I don't know if they ever.
Sam:I understand they give birth and they have hormones. I'm not saying it's easy for women. I just think they think we have it much easier than we actually do.
Immanuel:I just explained that, probably earlier today the open situation of how I think all day about doing something to get it done, even if it's simple. Moving this over to the left, I might think of so many different ways to make sure this is the best way, and they come in this what did you do? Absolutely.
Sam:While we're on that topic, you speak because I know you're a married man, family man. How has your relationship with your wife helped you along your journey?
Speaker 4:Oh, it's helped me out tremendously. I would say that it's been probably the most essential thing for my business and the growth of my business Happy wife, happy life. Yes, and it's not just a cliche, but it hasn't been an issue where you know, I have to, you know, be forced or do anything you know out of the ordinary to make her happy. She's just a wonderful person and she just has so much abundance in and of herself, yep and um. I told her the other day that, hey, I'm honored just to know her and doubly honored to be married to her.
Sam:Yep, I tell entrepreneurs all the time the most important decision you will ever make with having your own brand and being an entrepreneur, is who you choose to spend the rest of your life with. Absolutely, that can determine a lot. All right, let's get off the lovey-dovey stuff.
Speaker 4:Let's get back to the training. Love you.
Sam:Katrina, now I got to say love you. Holly, now I got to say so, you don't make me look bad. Talk to us about the training. So Monday through Saturday, sunday's your rest day. What does that training day look like? How many hours are you working out? What do the workouts look like All that good stuff? Are you an aspiring entrepreneur? Our coaching, tailored strategies to your unique business goals, dive into interactive workshops, fostering skills essential for success. Looking for an inspirational speaker for your next event? Book Mr Pernuer to elevate your gathering. Visit wwwthemistapernuercom to learn more and embark on your path to entrepreneurial success. Mr Pernuer, empowering your entrepreneurial spirit.
Immanuel:It can vary depending on the opponent and what we are looking to improve on as a fighter. So on Monday I'm up there early in the morning, probably 9.30. I'm in the gym. I'll be there from 9 to almost 1 or 3 o'clock, that's from 3 to 5 hours, depending on how much I want to train and what I'm specifically working on. It can be from shadow boxing, running. I do a various of doing all of it in one. You know, like I got BJ, I'm not trying to choose tomorrow to go run and do this and hit the weights. No, we're doing everything in one session. So you get all this. We break it up anyway. We have to break that up. So what is?
Sam:that typically, like you may start at 9.30 and it's like how much time sparring or something like that.
Immanuel:Oh, sparring, it depends. Endless rounds Sparring too.
BJ:We decide if you can't walk. If you can't walk because I'm going to still get in there.
Sam:You got one arm, you got two pinkies, so you're on for like an hour or something like that. When you spark because, like when I'm hitting the bag, like after five minutes, I'm like yo.
Immanuel:If I'm hitting the bag non-stop, I'm like yo, I'm drained a minute can seem long in the ring, especially when you're not in condition. Yeah, that's why it takes a long time to condition your body to perform for the duration of time yep, how much time do you dedicate, like each day, to like weightlifting, weight training, Weight?
Immanuel:training. It depends. I'm not so much a big weightlifter. I use it for specific purposes, Like if I need to just quickly build my strength or try to get some snap into my punches, but not to really. I feel like I'm strong already. I don't have to build, I mean lift a lot.
Sam:That's the crazy thing with boxers' workouts. Like I got a buddy of mine, he's in the MMA and big jack, dude. And like last time we were in the fantasy football league together and last time we had our thing. I was like man, what kind of workouts you be doing, man? He's like I was like you lifting weights, like how much you benching squatting. He's like dude, I can get that ripped just from.
Immanuel:Like I don't know what's that workout called Calisthenics or something like that Calisthenics yeah, yeah, I used to do a lot of calisthenics type of work.
Sam:What about in terms of your cardio, like how many miles are you typically getting in?
Immanuel:Three to five. Three to five, sometimes ten, I double up. Some days you running the monument 10k.
Sam:Say it again are you running the monument? 10k.
Immanuel:I haven't done it yet it's going to be.
Sam:It's going to be my return after like three years. Like I'm just starting out, the weather is nice. I can get out there and get those long miles in.
Immanuel:I have to go do that one day. I think he runs it every day so how many miles a week?
Sam:so you're averaging between three to 5. Let's call it on the high end 5, 10, 15, 20.
Immanuel:Yeah, about 30, 35 miles a week.
Sam:All right now with that. All right, so you finish your workout, say, at like 3 o'clock. What's the rest of the day look like for you Is? It all focused on nutrition.
Immanuel:And in between those workouts, are you like getting your protein, your chicken, your vegetables and all that stuff? Yeah, making sure my meals and stuff is caloric and make sure it's manageable. You got to always consider your intake. That's the biggest part, because it's trial and error when you're training. You're going to train and lose a lot of your weight, or whatever you did and then if you eat that back on. You just canceled everything you did that morning.
Sam:Yeah, you can't work out 9 to three and then get a number two at McDonald's.
Immanuel:Yeah, For sure. So then you'll be doing the same thing over again, and that might be a week or two, especially when you're trying to reach a goal. It can stagger you and you realize you're wasting time. So you know, after that should be a rest. I'll probably eat after that and then I'll probably rest, relax and then about 7 30 back in the gym gets all the workout in?
Sam:is there any mental work that goes along with boxing, so like you know how football players will watch tape or anything like that? Is there anything in the boxing world where, like you're studying something?
Immanuel:yeah, a lot of fighters study their opponents. Um, I'm studying the various things um how fighters I'm real like particular with how to approach this. The sport and think about doing things and situational things. I look at different things while I'm looking at how they're doing up a cut off the rope, how they're jabbing this way, how to counter in specifics?
Immanuel:you know work on those type of things when I'm in watching film and I watch some of the fighters. I don't really like dissect. I mean I don't really study too long, I just dissect a lot of things. I don't of the fighters I don't really dissect. I mean I don't really study too long, I just dissect a lot of things.
Immanuel:I try to work on it today, because I don't really necessarily try to follow fighters. I just pick things that I like about it, work on them on my own, and I see this as a good key point.
Sam:So, on that note, and I'm going to ask you the same thing, BJ- who's your favorite fighter right now?
Immanuel:right now in the sport? Mm-hmm Javante. Okay, about you? Well, let me ask you why. I grew up with him since, like probably like 13 or 14 my first regionals and been around his career side-by-side, seen it from the amateurs, and I watched the whole thing go its course yeah and he was been spending.
Immanuel:He'd been an inspiration me for me since then and he had almost 200 amperage of fights and watch all the tournaments and I used to feel like he was. We used the same type of fight, you know. You know, somebody has the same type of skills. I'm just like, yeah, we here, one day, we will know. And winning that fight when I won this belt, that was one day to show like we still, we still here, you know, mmm, on level staying at the same, I don't know on the same part yeah yeah, yeah, love that.
Sam:What about you? Well, when I saw you hitting the bag, Sam, I got to say oh yeah, I'm like you got to give me a little more time for him to go. I'll be the GOAT if you give me enough time.
Speaker 4:No, but it's this guy, emmanuel Aleem, and it's because of the way that he picks apart his opponents, the opponents themselves, they may think that they have the upper hand.
Sam:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But they have no idea. It's all a part of his plan. And next thing, you know, they're on the ground looking up into the ceiling. They're like what just happened and Emmanuel's arm is being raised, praying to mama.
Sam:Yes, yes, that's what's up. Let's go back to the nutrition. I want to dig in on that a little bit. What does like so? Say today how many meals you're going to have, and what do those meals consist of?
Immanuel:That's if you have a meal plan. I go off of studying my body. I read my body, real big on expressing how you feel, because in my past it hindered me and I made it as far as I can even to win this belt off of me not doing the correct ways of listening to your body. So me listening to my body now, knowing that when I'm dehydrated or if I feel tired and relaxed there's some rest, you know. So now I try to cleanse it with just water, intake a lot of water.
Immanuel:I think some people they say to put the drinkier water weight or something like half of it or something like that. So I drink that half the day, minimizing my foods from water, proteins and carbs that used to be my focus throughout the day and then I try to separate it from three to five meals If I'm hungry after a while. Once you train your body that way, your body gets accustomed to eating that way you get fuller quicker over time, but you got to work towards that. That's the trick.
Sam:Yeah, and I'm seeing my body go through these changes. Where it's this doctor that I started following on Instagram and he made a comparison. So think about, if you go get a dozen donuts, how often are you just going to pick up one of them glazed donuts and eat one? Not never. You're always going back for the second one. But he said, if you're eating one ingredient type foods like an apple, a vegetable or something like that, how often do you go to the refrigerator, eat an apple and go back and get another one? Almost never.
Sam:So it's like those single ingredient foods like tend to fill your body up. And he said something that connected with me it's just like all this other crap we're eating it's not real food. It is not real food. It cannot sustain you. So it may limit your hunger for a period of time, but like it got me thinking because, like I love Chinese food and every now and then me and my good friend will go to the Chinese buffet, but the funny thing with Chinese food, like I can eat at 12 o'clock and I'm starving again by 3 pm yeah, because you ain't eating real food.
Speaker 4:Just a filler, yeah.
Sam:It's literally just filling you up for that period of time. I want to know what is your post meal after? So you've been typically. How long are you training for a fight? So you get the ticket for a fight? How long do you know when you have a fight? How long do you have to train?
Immanuel:well now I'm glad I'm in a position to know ahead of time, because when my fights in the past and then they're just on imagine yes, this fight and got up a period at such a time how long they give you then, like a week or something like that.
Immanuel:I've had a couple weeks. I didn't had three, four weeks, sometimes five. Nothing, not only of choice to tilt in, that's on. With my last previous management I started to know a little bit ahead of time, but it still was. It wasn't enough time to prepare, especially the way I wanted to yeah, what's the ideal amount of time for you?
Sam:like a few months, about eight weeks.
Immanuel:Okay, six to eight weeks is pretty much a good enough time for someone to make some changes. If you're about 10 to 20 pounds out, you can do good in about six to eight weeks 10-week camp is pretty good. 12-week camp is pretty long.
Sam:Gotcha. So after you've trained for eight weeks, you walk away with the belt. What's that first meal you're eating after the fight?
Speaker 4:Oh man, I got to have me a steak.
Immanuel:Okay, I'm going to steak Got to have medium rare. You don't go crazy, like extra fries and ranch and cheese and all that stuff. I've changed over the years, I think you know like really dialing to making sure my body's at 100% and I look at the athletes that I look inspired by because basketball has always been my favorite sport.
Sam:Yeah.
Immanuel:And seeing LeBron how he's playing to 39 and seeing how he takes care of his body.
Sam:Dude is a machine.
Immanuel:And the narrative of him with his health and how much he spends it to is just made me dive into more, focusing on that as an athlete, like. If I do this now, imagine LeBron like he doing it?
Sam:Oh for sure, tiger Woods changed the game with golf. No golfer was weight training before Tiger came on the scene Nobody. And then, after he's bombing 330-yard drives down the fairway, people come up man, what are you doing? Well, I got a workout regimen and all this other stuff. Before, guys were just like they're drinking beer and they're playing golf. Tiger took it to a whole other level, changed it. How long do you see yourself being in this space? And let me give you a two-part question on that how long do you see yourself in this space? And what's after boxing?
Immanuel:I used to have a timeline At first. 34 was my age Before this new discovery of health and everything, I'm 30. So now it's changed, because now, when you get healthier, you start doing things. You realize you can probably extend a little more than you thought. So we'll see what happens later on. I don't know now.
Sam:I'm not trying to say I'm trying to be a 40-year-old fighter.
Immanuel:Because I had a time where I feel like I've done enough, because from 12 years old to now, that's a long time I've been taking punches been in fights and just been investing into the sport, so you still have that same passion and love for it. That you did when you were 12 years old yeah, awesome, just to fight as long as I had the fight in me, because I feel like boxing is you, are. You don't get into the ring and become a fighter.
BJ:You're a.
Immanuel:Before you got in there, you wasn't a fighter. Oh, you're built for it.
Sam:Like we've talked about, like with entrepreneurs, I felt like you used LeBron James as an example. That man was born to play basketball.
Sam:There's no dispute in that Now, he worked on his craft and he built himself up to the machine that he is today. But I feel it's the same thing when, like when you find your path. There's nothing more sweeter in life than when you realize why you're on this earth. Yes, and you've realized, like this is exactly what I'm meant to do. Yes, um, it just changes the game, man. Um, all right, what was the second part of that question?
Immanuel:I'm getting excited, man what I wanted to, um, do, oh yeah, what's after? Well, I'm gonna have a entrepreneur mindset and that's why me, me and BJ had a lot of conversations talking in the business world and things that I wanted to do, and he helped me a lot, because I have also a detailing business on the side which came from my woman there you go Sounds like a good woman man and I'm listening.
Immanuel:And I took on he to investing into that and started creating my own business of a mobile detailing business. So, shout it out, what's the name of the company? Easy breezy detailing nice, I like that name. So it's like we're here, we're doing a podcast. Your car could be, you know, getting service. That was that's the um, the services that I'm providing and seeing how that could be a good, lucrative business to grow as far as I wanted to. Yeah, I like that. That really helped me with the entrepreneur mindset diving in that and then seeing how I can play that side by side with grow as far as I wanted to. Yeah, I like that. That really helped me with the entrepreneurial mindset diving in that and then seeing how I can play that side by side with my boxing.
Immanuel:Sometimes I question myself like why doesn't this work the same way? You know this doesn't. And it's like now I start to learn more about the business and really get inspired, just loving that avenue, because as a kid my dad always had us in a thrift stores and had us learning how to be a businessman since we was young. Now like having that mindset doing thrift stores, buying this, on this I already had that seen as a kid, so that's by me. Even know as a big, as an adult, that I'm able to get to these things. I have this place, I can do these things and I realize the business where. That's why I want to be into love it.
Sam:what do you think about the business of boxing now? Because I remember there are no. What's his name? What's the dude with the crazy hair? Oh, Don Kings, Don Kings. We don't have Don Kings anymore, oh they're still there.
Sam:So it ain't the same level of fanfare that we had back in the day. So where do you see the business of boxing going? Obviously the mma and uh boxing like come together. Or was it mma and wrestling? They came together. It was uh, the ufc and wwe. Okay, that was it. Um, where do you see the business of boxing going?
Sam:Because you got guys like money mayweather, who like came in and changed the game completely and showed you, like you know, you could make a killing doing this, like he will take an L and still make $100 million. What is? As you've continued to evolve because, like you said before, like you were just getting fights. You take them when you can get them, but now you have a little bit more control of your career. How do you structure that Like and I don't want you to give me specific numbers, but for someone who's listening to this and they're like you know I but for someone who's listening to this and they're like you know I really want to look at being a professional boxer what type of income can they look to generate and what level do you need to get to to make a sustainable income to support a family?
Immanuel:Well, you can get endless, to be honest, because look at Mayweather making $200 million. It's crazy, $200 million.
Immanuel:At this point, he's just living off the interest on this money and see that he can just walk around, just post pictures and travel the world and do what he can. That's endless. That's his standard of wherever you want to go. Look at Mayweather Yep, he's the highest. He can do whatever he wants, that's true At any given time, and have enough with his generation Now to sustain. I look at boxing business as getting better because it's being more exposed. It's not as as like in the dark, or it's beginning to be not as in the dark, because there's a lot of stories and a lot of um loopholes throughout the sport where people have been doing things for a long time and they've been getting away with it, but now it's starting to weed out because now there's a lot of eyes into the sport.
Sam:Yeah, and that's changing yeah, especially now that gambling's been legalized from most states and you can't gamble fighters, you can't be like this.
BJ:And that everybody gambling yep for sure it's legal now for y'all let me.
Sam:Let me ask you this because I remember when I was a kid I took karate and one day I came home because I had a fight on the playground and I had to talk with my dad and he was like, boy, don't be walking around telling everybody that you're in karate classes. And they just want to come up and challenge you, like, oh, you're taking karate, now let's see if you can take this hit. Um, do people come up to you and challenge you once they find out?
Immanuel:you're a fighter. That era changed. As a kid growing up, I still grew up with the same mentality that people knew to use the boxes like we didn't really talk about like that, unless we had a problem because they don't bring it to you. Yeah, because that's what.
BJ:I'm the part of. Sometimes rich people don't care. It's the good and bad part. I'm proud about that.
Immanuel:That grew into my personality as well.
BJ:So when you think about it, people have a problem. I don't have a problem with them when it's happening.
Sam:It's funny because you are literally a trained killer and sitting here talking to you you ain't mean mugging me, you ain't thugging it out or anything like that. Like you, a chill dude, like it's always funny to me to see guys in a profession like that and they are like the coolest, chillest guys. But like when they got to turn it on, it's like that light comes out of their eyeballs.
Speaker 4:When they got a taste of oh Z's choice of light fight week. He's like man he become a savage.
BJ:I told him when it gets closer to his fight date.
Sam:He becomes more psychotic.
BJ:Put that damn water on my coffee table. I feel you on that. Called me to say hello one time. I was like man, I was like BJ. Why are you checking me? What's going?
Speaker 4:on. I said you know what I was, you know what, Let me go play soccer.
Sam:I had a guy. It was a guy who was a martial arts guy. One time he told me a story. He was like walking around in Target or Walmart or something like that and somebody that knew him came up behind him and was playing with him and grabbed his shoulder. His instincts instantly kicked in. Next thing, you know, he's got that guy by the arm and flipped him up on the ground. It's like, oh damn, my bad, I know, I know you like, don't mess with no train killer like that. Um, in terms of your next fights, now that you have a little bit more control over this, like what, what's your game plan for the for the rest of 2024? Um, what you got, hopefully.
Immanuel:I can get two or three more fights. I'm with son, with jetta Promotions, with Tony Jetta, and they're doing a great job with me. You know he got me with two belts so far and we're looking to probably make live Maryland Casino possibly a place you know, for me to fight for these next few fights until we get a nice big one to take the opportunity we're on the way back up so we can get and exceed past this championship this championship was great.
Immanuel:It has history. But now you got two other brothers. That's coming around. You want to keep adding to the collection yeah, we need more siblings.
Sam:Yeah, and I love that you're like your mindset you're already thinking. It sounds like you're thinking years down the road. Yeah, and I think a lot of people whether it's football, boxing, soccer, whatever it is their vision is so narrow. They're only looking at, like, the next contract or getting through the next season or something like that. But you're talking, you're looking 10 years down the road, right?
Immanuel:now that's for me, for my experiences. Of course I can talk long, long days and hours about the bad parts of the good and the bad, what happened, but my experience has really shaped how it's better now.
Sam:That's what's up. Well, dude, it was a pleasure having you on the podcast. If people want to follow you, get in touch with you. Come see your next fight. How can they find?
Immanuel:you iaithechosenonecom is my website, and Emmanuel Aleem on my Twitter, my Facebook and my Instagram, and you know this will be a good opportunity because the next fight might be a big fight, you know, for all the sponsors or anybody that want to be a part of you know, joining us, we're looking for y'all to come and be a support and be showcased. That's what's up On our way up, because we're about to knock on a lot of big doors. Big, huge news coming soon.
Sam:I like it, I like it and you're primarily. Most of your fights are in.
Immanuel:Maryland area. Right now we're trying to get a Richmond-Virginia fight. We're going to see which schedule down the line which will be, but that's what we're hoping to have. That's what's up.
Sam:That's what's up, BJ, if people want to reach you where can they find you? Oh yeah, all right, I got 5K for the next fight.
Speaker 4:Man, don't tell my wife, I mean that in the most literal sense, because the boxing establishment, it has its people who are in the inner circle, who they prioritize, who they invest in, and those people are given ample time to prepare for their bout. And then they'll call a person that they don't prioritize that may be signed with the same promotion, and that person, he doesn't know that he's going to fight until two weeks, five days, and they tried to put Emmanuel in that position and he overcame the odds and beat the established fighters. And that's why I believe in this man so much. And he just has a lot that's coming up. And he has a lot that's coming up. He has a lot that's coming up, big announcements. He's going to do Big fights this year and also in the next year. Get involved now, because, hey, he's Richmond's team right here, team Alim.
Sam:When he's got six more belts on this table, don't try to join the bandwagon, then we need you guys now.
Sam:I don't think I've ever said this on a podcast, but I want you guys to support this young brother. Let's make this episode go viral. Share this with your friends, family. When you see the videos coming out, make sure you're sharing it everywhere. Let's get his name out there and get him some support. But appreciate you guys and we will catch you guys on the next episode. That's what's up. Man, that was good yeah that was really good.
Speaker 4:That was real good, all right.
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