You Can't Afford Me

From Online School To AI: A Teen Entrepreneur’s Playbook

• Samuel Anderson • Season 4 • Episode 6

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What if a 17-year-old could show you a cleaner path to freedom than most adults? Meet Jeremiah Schwartz, a young founder who traded hallway chatter for online school, rebuilt his algorithm to feed him mentors instead of memes, and launched an AI automations agency designed to give service businesses their time back. We dig into the exact choices that created leverage: two-hour deep work blocks, partnerships that warm up leads, and the conviction to reinvest profits instead of buying the first shiny flex. 

We get tactical about AI without the hype. Jeremiah explains where automations make the biggest dent—lead handling, follow-ups, content workflows—and where humans need to stay in the loop. We compare ChatGPT and Gemini for day-to-day work, talk about using AI to learn faster, and sketch a near-term future where entrepreneurship becomes more accessible because the tools handle the grunt work. The takeaway is clear: AI won’t replace you, but someone using it well will outpace you. 

Then we zoom out. This is a masterclass in choosing assets over appearances. Jeremiah breaks down why equity and real estate matter more than a logo on the hood, how to let assets pay for luxuries, and why an abundance mindset turns “no” into “not yet.” We talk health and discipline as non-negotiables, the compounding power of the right rooms and mentors, and the faith principles that keep ambition grounded—wisdom over noise, stewardship over status, impact over impulse. 

If you’re a student, an early-stage founder, or a seasoned operator hungry for cleaner systems, this conversation gives you both the mindset and the moves. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs a reset, and leave a review with the one habit you’ll change this week—what’s your first step toward real freedom?

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Meet Jeremiah: A 17-Year-Old Founder<br>

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the You Can't Afford Me podcast. Let's get the fluff and dive straight into the right. Real entrepreneur. Real struggle. And the unfiltered journey is. Let's get into it. Hey guys, thanks for joining us on another episode of the You Can't Afford Me Podcast. Now, this young man we have here, I think is going to be bringing a lot of insight to some people listening to this episode. But like I'm so impressed with like the systems and the models that he's put in place. And the biggest thing I've I've noticed about this young man since the time I've known him is that he's just a sponge for knowledge. I'm like, anytime someone's around, I think you grabbed a book from my office, like the people that I've seen you uh hanging out with, like, I'm like, this this kid's going places. So today we got Jeremiah on the podcast. Jeremiah, how you doing, buddy?

SPEAKER_01

I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. Absolutely, man. I'm so grateful to be here.

SPEAKER_00

And a strong biblical name. We both got biblical names. Samuel and Jeremiah. So, real quick, give everybody some insight. Like, in 60 seconds, tell us who you are and what you do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm Jeremiah Schwartz. Um, as Sam's telling them, I'm young, but I'm an entrepreneur and just super hungry. Um, currently I run an AI automations business where we help um service-based businesses pretty much become automated so they can focus on real tasks that need their attention and let AI handle the rest.

SPEAKER_00

Beautiful.

Early Hustles And Sales Mindset<br>

SPEAKER_00

So, my goal at the end of this podcast is that anybody how old are you? 17. Dang, I was thinking you were like 20 or something like that. 17. Okay. So this is for anybody that's in high school and college, and we're gonna get rid of all the excuses you may have for starting a business talking with Jeremiah today. So, number one, when did this entrepreneurial bug come to you? Like at 17, were you thinking about entrepreneurship at 11?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I don't think I was necessarily looking for it. Yeah. But I was super curious, and I would do different things like reselling. Um what'd you resell?

SPEAKER_00

Sneakers?

SPEAKER_01

It would be it could be sneakers or just things I had in the items in the house that I was not using. Um, but I also was told I was good at sales, and that was something that clicked to me um personally, that if I could connect sales and I I quit I connected sales with just freedom pretty much, um, and how sales you can make as much as you want with just the effort that you put in. And I also thought about just owning my own business. And I did that, I did a lot of digging through YouTube, um I bought some courses too. I did I did TikTok shop for a little bit. I just did a bunch of different things, um, and I failed. And then I found I guess AI automations with my uh now business partner, and it's just something I've enjoyed doing, and I I get to use um by personal skill of communicating sales to do it. So I just I'm just so um so grateful to be in a spot where I'm having a you know just a start, but I'm I'm just so grateful to be here.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, like man, you've blown I'm still tripping off the 17, man. Because the way you present yourself, the way you carry yourself, you do not carry yourself as as a 17-year-old. I gotta ask you, what is because if I could go back and redo it all, I wish I had your mindset at your age. Like, I didn't become an entrepreneur until I was 30. I think actually the average age for an entrepreneur is like 44, is where most people start uh their own business. So for you, what's it been like with your friend circle? Because I know, especially at that age, like your friends are like the primary influence, and I can only imagine like your friends are like, yo, let's go out Friday night or something like that, and you're like, no, I gotta work on this business plan, or I I just bought this course, I need to go through. Like, what's that been like for you?

Choosing Online School For Freedom<br>

SPEAKER_01

It has been a lot easier than you you would think, because my freshman year, I was given the opportunity to switch to online school, and pretty much that transformed everything. Um gave me a lot of freedom to do my school whenever, but also work on my business, but also just pretty much within my business and within my you know, just balance it out. You know, I think it's it's super hard when you go to school for a lot of like set was it eight, and maybe eight or seven hours or something.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, I think it's eight because they structured it to look like what full-time employee.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Yeah, and then you go home and you you have to do homework, and then you have to if you wanna want to have a business, you start working on that. But I've just I've decided to to switch to that, and I obviously I think it's my best decision because I got even ahead academically. Um I'm actually a sophomore right now in college as well. So yeah, so I did I'm doing I'm just I'm just crushing it, I'm just trying to get things done because you know I'm just super passionate. I'll I'm uh I would say I'm a high achiever.

SPEAKER_00

So So let me let me ask you that on well, first, the decision to go to online school, was that because you wanted to be an entrepreneur, or you just saw the more of a benefit to that versus going in person?

SPEAKER_01

I started reading books. Um I think it it was around it wasn't thinking, it was uh how to win friends and uh influence. Influence people. Yes. Phenomenal book. Yeah, that was a book I read, and I I started like I g I started my algorithm on like the social media started being like like how it's making you to become like um employees with within school. Yeah. And I I just felt such a time suck just going to school for that long when I know like there's a lot of things that happen in school that are out of your control, like fights and stuff that just don't allow you to focus on your education. So I thought it was probably just a smart idea. And even within that, I actually got to travel to Europe with my family. So they we we went for three months over to Europe and I got to experience um a different lifestyle, pretty much, and that kind of led to also the entrepreneurship bug of freedom, and then that's where I met my business partner as well. So it's win-win.

SPEAKER_00

And things are way different overseas than they are here. Like here, it's like you gotta hustle, you gotta grind. There, certain countries like towns are shut down on Sundays, like you can't do anything but relax. I I've heard in some countries

Europe, Exposure, And Perspective Shifts<br>

SPEAKER_00

it's actually illegal for your boss to contact you past 5 p.m. Like they can get fined or a ticket or something like that if they contact employees past that that time period. Now, with the in school or the uh the at-home learning, what does that look like in terms of like hours? So instead of like spending eight hours at a school building, how long does it take to get your schoolwork done?

SPEAKER_01

Um I'm I usually do it crushing two hours, just focus. I was about to say two to three hours. Yeah, two to three hours. I've I've focused. Um I even I got this brick thing. Um it's like this this device that you can um scan your phone and it locks up like social media apps, and I put my I usually put that somewhere or I put my phone downstairs. I just usually focus on school, and then after that the rest of the day to just go get after it.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, where did this discipline come from, man? Because big teenagers are not this discipline. Like what was it, your grandparents with your parents? Like what who fed into you like this?

SPEAKER_01

Um, like what you said, I'm a sponge for knowledge. So I looked at a lot of people, I would say. And a quote that something that I really resonate that I I also work at the country club as well, country club of Virginia on the golf bros told me was every everybody you meet is important. You can learn something from them, right? You can either learn something good or bad from them. You don't have to necessarily apply everything that you learn from them.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

And I kind of did I started long before the conversation, but I started looking at a lot of people and I thought I just didn't want that life. You know, I want a different life. I live once, right? So I want to live as healthy as I can be. Um I want to be I want to impact the world. I think that's kind of what my why is. And I've um put that as when I'm working through something, I always remember that it's not always monetary. I think a lot of us hold that it's

Curating Algorithms And Mentors<br>

SPEAKER_01

like, oh, I make ten thousand dollars this month, I make or maybe even a hundred canos people doing that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um and they just want to spend it on clubs and just dumb stuff. Dumb stuff. And I'm trying to make you know generational, so I'm thinking about um very tactical within I want to get into real estate and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, I I don't want them to keep hyping you up and get your head any bigger, man. But like I'm blown away, dude. Like I know 50-year-olds who don't talk the way you do, and I think the biggest thing you have going for you is you have a massive head start on everyone because just that mentality, most people don't figure out what they want to do for the rest of their life until they're in their 40s. That's why I told you before that the average entrepreneur is like 44 or something like that. So most people get halfway through their life before they figure it out. You haven't even gotten to a quarter of your life, and you already have these things mapped out. So, number one, just like identifying where your passion lies, what makes you happy, like that gets you ahead of the game, whatever the vehicle is, because at the end of the day, like no one's ever gotten wealthy from a salary. It's from investing and it's from ownership. So that's the only way that you can become wealthy or get rich is by owning stuff. So that's one thing I look back now and I'm like, man, it didn't matter what the vehicle was, as long as you have the knowledge, if you have some sort of cash flow coming in, I don't care if you're investing $25 a week or you know, you're getting in with uh with the buddy's company and you're just taking equity and you're putting in sweat equity to uh to get a percentage of that company, like just do something. So you're so far ahead, dude. Like, man, I'd be a billionaire if I was thinking the way you did at 17. Um, all right, so past that, and and then you said something about algorithms too, I wanted to touch on. What what did you say about your algorithms in terms of what you're seeing on your newsfeed?

SPEAKER_01

It pretty much, you know, I started, I guess, liking more things that resonated to me and that that kind of allowed me to stay disciplined. Yeah. Sometimes I see Alex Harmonzi. Um, and you know, that's the homie. Yeah, she'd be clocking me sometimes. Or it could be like Gary, Gary V as well. Um, I think Jeremy, he's a sales guy. Um, I don't know, I'm blanking on his last name. I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah, Jeremy. He's a big like sales guy. Um just and I also just see other people my age as well. Right. Um that kind of just inspires me.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm not really Yeah, who's that one guy who runs around asking people like, hey, when did you first become a millionaire? I love that, yeah. That guy school of hard knocks. Yeah, that's a dude that's built an insane.

SPEAKER_01

Uh favorite uh YouTube channel.

Networks, OGs, And Real-World Access<br>

SPEAKER_01

I love watching him. I and that I spend that's also like your choices that you can make, right? What you watch and what you feed. So I I like to watch a lot of those type of things if I'm watching anything, yeah. It's something I can learn, right? I don't want to just rot my brain.

SPEAKER_00

See, and you figured out another piece. Like a lot of people think, because I hear so many people, especially in my field, was like social media is such a time suck. I'm like, no, you created the algorithm doesn't control you, you control the algorithm. So like if you don't like what you're seeing on your feed, go search whatever topic you want to see more of. Go engage with three posts, and I guarantee you the next time you get back on your news feed, you're gonna see more content with that. But the fact that you've even curated your social media to continuously feed your brain, like you're not getting trapped into all the dumb stuff that a lot of other people your age are doing. Like it it's phenomenal what you're putting together. Um let's talk about this vehicle that you actually know before we get there, because uh initially I met you through Nikki Bakes.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so talk about that because that was one of the first reasons like I wanted to feed into you and give you some time because I saw you just hanging out with the OGs who knew what was going on and were like, yo, I'm just gonna feed off this guy. So how did you get connected with Nikki and like what are the things that you've been able to get an education from him on?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um shout out to Nikki.

SPEAKER_00

Nikki was one I think he was on the first episode of last season. We're on season four with the podcast now. He was the first episode of season three, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's a beast, he's a killer. Um he's a family friend. Um, so we he actually my family, or my mom specifically, was big on uh flipping houses. So he did a lot, he helped us with a lot of projects. Um and then he became more just like an important figure to me. Yeah. Just he uh obviously he has a little bit of drive of becoming an entrepreneur as well within his food business, but he's just super outgoing. I love how he charismatic he is. Um that's something that I love. Just like I like it's hard to see that nowadays people genuinely care about somebody. Um he wants the best out of everybody, he wants you to be successful, and pretty much, yeah, even that, like I like to engage with older people. Um it's kind of I even I told my mom this, it's kind of led me to a different like with my friend groups. A lot of my friends are a lot older than me.

SPEAKER_02

That's good, dude.

SPEAKER_01

And the reason why is because a lot of the like I don't I don't I don't party, I don't do any of those things, so it's not really beneficial to me to be surrounding myself with people who aren't you know aren't trying to go places where I'm trying to go. You know, I I wrote you, I sent you a text I remember on Instagram that I told you I want to be on Forbes 30 under 30.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

So that's still that's still a goal that I'm that I'm thinking about every day um with how I'm gonna continue to work, continue to stay motivated. But just going to networking events, um especially since he's connected to Joe Dunn. Joe Dunn has helped me a lot as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Um connected me with uh Jared Green, um Daryl Green's son, he's helped me a lot as well. So just I've nice I've taken advantage of you know opportunities that I have that a lot of people wish they had. Yeah. You know, just being extremely grateful for it.

SPEAKER_00

You're develop you're developing the relationships, and that's another key factor that a lot of people take a lifetime to figure out is

Ownership Over Salary And Equity Plays<br>

SPEAKER_00

anybody can go out and get knowledge on something, but it's you know, the old adage is not what you know, it's who you know. And I didn't realize it sounds very cliche when you don't function that way. But once you do, you truly see. Like, I'll never forget there was a buddy of mine that put me on to this one guy, and we were, you know, this is when I was still just a one or two-man operation with my company. So I was out in the field doing all the filming, editing, and all that stuff still. And he put me on to one of his homies, and this guy was uh doing uh he was making content for uh the Arizona Cardinals and the Green Bay Packers, and I'm looking at him, and I studied this guy's social. I was like, I was zooming in on pictures because I want to see what gear he was using. But you know, me and that guy were the same age. We used the exact same equipment. Wow. Like at the time it was a Panasonic GH5, same equipment, same lenses. Like I was studying what this guy was doing. Um, and we're the exact same age. And the edits that he was doing, the filming, it was nothing that I couldn't do at the same level, if not better. But because this dude had the connections, he was the one getting the opportunities. So, and it sounds like, and especially from what I've seen from you in my dealings with you, is that you don't walk into a room expecting something from someone. You walk into a room saying, How can I serve you? Because a lot of people, it's one of those things where like if you want an investment for your company, you don't ask for the money, you ask for the advice. Exactly. And nine times out of ten, like that person that you're talking to, they may be an ideal investor for you. But if you flat out ask them, like, hey, I need your cash for this versus the advice, then that conversation begins to go a different way. You said something about your mom in terms of like flipping property, so are your parents entrepreneurs as well, too?

SPEAKER_01

I guess my mom wasn't isn't her own right. She kind of strayed away from that now, but it kind of molded me into something I want to do, you know. Um, once I get the cash flow to start doing that, because again, I've I remember um I won a game in Monopoly, and I after that, like even my mom, like I don't play Monopoly anymore because I've already won. So it's like I'm like, I'm like, and it takes so long, we got this Monopoly cards now. There's cards now, so it's a lot faster. But the reason I wanted to touch on that is because that's what it that's what it's about, you know. If you don't own it, like you wanna you want to own as much as you can, but I also for me faith has become super important for me. Um that's allowed me to become super balanced. Um so I'm not really, you know, again, like money's cool to me, but it's not something that I idolize, it's kind of something I'm gonna use as a as a resource to either impact, you know, obviously

Launching An AI Automation Agency<br>

SPEAKER_01

to impact people's lives, but even um give back to my family because they've done important so much to me.

SPEAKER_00

So absolutely. And I even though like this whole show and and my being is around entrepreneurship, like I like to remind people we're not telling everybody needs to be an entrepreneur. Exactly. Majority of people should not be entrepreneurs. There are a lot of people that go out and start a business that have no business, you know, doing that. Um, it's about finding that vehicle and like what you mentioned in terms of money. Like, once you start to realize it's literally just a tool, like these are just numbers that we're playing with, and you're taking numbers and putting it over here. We're taking numbers from this person and putting it over to this person, like you're just shifting resources around. Um, but when you get to the core of that and you realize like freedom is the goal. Exactly. It's just like, okay, in order to be free for real, you have to have a certain amount of wealth in order to do that. So, man, you just got the things you were saying, man.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like uh somebody I do watch, he's he's a Christian entrepreneur, is Myron Golden.

SPEAKER_00

Myron is my guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I love, I love so I love I watch him all the time. Um, he just gives so many, so much insight.

SPEAKER_00

So give give us your top three influencers in the world of entrepreneurship and business. Who are your top three that you think?

SPEAKER_01

Um Myron Golden's probably number one.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, give me your mountain rushmore. So give me four.

SPEAKER_01

So the school of hard knocks, just because he he invites so many people who are just and he's he's he's like probably like 23, so he's a young guy, so he's just he's easy easy to watch. Um I would also say I I love I would say Gary V because I love his mentality.

SPEAKER_00

Gary Gary's on a whole new track. So uh let me let me pause right there. Because the whole reason this company exists is because of Gary Vee. Yeah, like he has no idea. One day I'll meet this brother and we'll I and I don't need to meet him at a meet and greet. I need to sit down and have a

Obstacles: Time Zones And Selling The Offer<br>

SPEAKER_00

meal with this brother and break bread. And that will come at one point. Um, but I built all of my social media knowledge and understanding came from absorbing his content nonstop. And for a period, you know, he just started to be repetitive with this content and what he was saying, and I was like, I got like I'm one of those ones, I'm not just gonna keep following and engaging with somebody just because I like them. Like, if I'm not getting anything else from it, love him, phenomenal business guy. Now he's kind of been on a whole new path in terms of like I'm hearing new stuff from him now, and I'm like, okay, this is what I needed from Gary. So Gary, Gary is that dude. He's a godfather of social media.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, those are two. Um, number three, I mean, honestly, I can't even put them in order, but Alex Ramonzi. I love I love just his his also his mentality.

SPEAKER_00

Um that guy is insanely smart. Yes. Like the way he breaks down systems and like his sales process and like uh, you know, his coaching programs, and like even the thing he did with the book, where like he had the most book sales and history like in a 24-hour period or something like that, because he had these campaigns going on social media. Like the guy's just a genius, and then just the hustling grit from somebody like that.

SPEAKER_01

Um, who is my fourth fourth to Myron Gold? What do you say?

SPEAKER_00

You said is it Myron?

SPEAKER_01

I read put Myron up there. Um it would probably honestly, I love watching Shark Tank. So it'd have to be one of those sharks. Um, I like I think Damon Damon's really good.

SPEAKER_00

Damon's a man.

SPEAKER_01

So like honestly, like anybody on that shirt, any of any of those people, they're they're beasts and they're they're killers at what they do.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, Mark Cuban, well, he's no longer a shark. Obviously, he has the most knowledge and expertise as a business guy in that sector, but yeah, those are all good ones. Um, all right, now let's talk about the vehicle that you have. So, number one, so A, I I tell people, I feel like just about every day, stop running from AI, it's not going anywhere. It is here, it is here to say. I'll say the same thing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin cryptocurrency is not going anywhere. Embrace the changes. Right now, this is a moment in history where people can choose to be Blockbuster or Netflix. Don't end up on the wrong side of the history. Um, so knowing that you're in that tech AI space, what first prompted this path and like you saying this is something I want to attack?

SPEAKER_01

The first, I would probably say I at first I was not interested. Um, I was not interested. I didn't I didn't even really think about doing an automation or agency. It was kind of my co-founder, shout out Jordan. Um he he's a he's he's an AI consultant himself, so he has the experience and he's super smart. Um but also again like what I mentioned earlier, sales, right? And he and that's something he wasn't necessarily interested in doing. You know, he loves building the product, but he's not interested in going out there and uh being the the voice and selling it. Yep. So I just knew after our conversation, like this is this is us. And we had a discussion because when I was we were I met met him in Porto a couple years back, and

Status vs Freedom: Cars, Assets, And Wealth<br>

SPEAKER_01

our conversation we were reading Rich Dad Poor Dad. That's the book that changed my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were reading that book. Um I actually we were reading it at the same time, which is crazy. And we just kind of like talked it talked about it, and then we started just extending contacts, stayed in touch, and then yeah, we we it was pretty much the last couple months we we said we're gonna dial in on it. Um and it's been super, super fun. Like I I s enjoy it so much, and just the ability from to be able to work from your computer, you know, that's that's that's a that's a blessing.

SPEAKER_00

That's the freedom aspect. Like I've told my team here, we're still in the process of getting this right. Um, but systems have been my theme in this business for probably at least the last six months. Because I want to look at my team, well, depending on the position that they're in. Obviously, videographers, I need them here locally and and boots on the ground, but like my social media managers and like um strategists and people like that. I don't care if you're Miami, Florida, Portugal, Japan, as long as you have an internet connection and your laptop and you can get stuff done. I don't care where you are in the world. As long as we're providing the service we need to at a high level.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

You can go anywhere you want. So it's genius to go into that sector. I normally save this question at the end, but I want to ask you, what's been so first of all, how long have you guys had the business now?

SPEAKER_01

So he he had it for a while, but he wasn't necessarily doing anything with it. So we would probably say, which is fairly new, so like three months. Okay. Yeah, so it's a it's a newer.

SPEAKER_00

So in that three months, that's what I want to dissect with you. In that three months, my first question to you is what was the most difficult thing for you in this three-month process? Because you go into the idea of owning a business and you think it's going to be this or that this is gonna go smooth, and yeah, I'll gotta what was the thing that like threw you off? Like, oh man, did I make a mistake becoming an entrepreneur?

SPEAKER_01

I would probably say just the like I guess the communication. Because he's he's in he's still in Europe. Yeah. So that that was probably the communication aspect, and then finding um like four hours ahead or whatever. So I think he he might be si he might be six hours or something like that. True. Or seven. Yeah, it's it's a different but I'd probably say communicating and then also um not knowing how to sell it. You know, I I like sales, and then I was still at the f the at the beginning, I was thinking about how am I how am I gonna sell this product? Um so for pretty much finding an identity, and I guess the thing I found was um I think warm leads. Um that was that was super good, but also um sometimes you gotta sell something for free.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um and for an example is like partnering up with like a marketing agency, right? Or getting leads. Oh, you could you could find you could guys cut out a deal together. So just figuring out which strategy you're gonna do, but also continue to um to hone in and also believe because there's some times where a lot a lot I think everybody expects to make money like right away, and if they don't see a result, like within a even like within a week, some people it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I tell people don't if you're not willing to not get paid for at least three years, money bothering. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

And and I mean our mindset is what we get, we're trying to put back into the business. Um, so it's more right right now, we're not even trying to take out, but just keep putting in, just build, you know. Um because we're builders, like we see like how we how you see money, it's just a tool, right? Yeah, it's not I mean, we're just trying to make an empire for real.

SPEAKER_00

So that's it. And like again, coming to the the the realization that you have at your age, like you know, early, earlier on when I was probably your age or in my 20s, I was like, you know, I had my dream board and it was like, you know, here's the mansion, here's the Ferrari, and all that kind of stuff. And then you get to a certain point, you get a little success, and you realize how little that stuff means. Like, dude, a car is just something to get you from point A to point B. Exactly now. At some point in my life, I can promise you I'm gonna have that Sunday driving car, like some slick that's gonna cost a little over a stack, a hundred stacks or something like that. But like that, and I don't even want to put that out on Front Street. Um but you realize, like, man, these are not the things that are important. Like, it's the time with my family, it's the freedom, it's the ability to go. Like, for me, I still don't label myself as a success, even though some people may look at me that way. For me, one of the metrics in my mind is when I have the ability to golf three times a week, I've I've made it at a certain level in my head. Because then I have the time that

Where AI Is Heading And Useful Tools<br>

SPEAKER_00

means I have a business that's operating and self-sufficient without me being present all the time. Um, I'm able to do something I love continuously every single week. Like, what else do you want out of life but to do the things you want to do when you want to do them?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, that's that's really good. Yeah, I mean, to your point, I did have that the vision board as well, right? Having a nice mansion.

SPEAKER_00

Um, don't get me wrong, I got champagne tastes, I like nice stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly, yeah. I mean, for me, it's like having like the G-Wagon, even like I told I talked to one of my friends the other day, and I was talking to them about like I want maybe soon to get like an AMG, Mercedes. And I I came to realization, I'm like, like, I don't really like the car I have right now is fine, it works fine, it's it gets it gets me where where I want to go. And why should I put that, I guess, pressure on myself, but also why not start just start investing in like real estate, you know? Yeah, start start doing that, you know, where where that's we're in a time period where if you are starting to invest in real estate, it's it's a great opportunity. Um, because again, like even though you should adapt to AI, but don't know where AI is gonna take.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I think this is a great opportunity for a lot of people to invest into real estate. So yeah, like even that, like, it's cool.

SPEAKER_00

Um cars, like obviously those are still like I have a dream for that, but it's more again, like, you're trying to make generational wealth, not trying to just, you know, yeah, that mindset shift of like, because I got to the point, and this is probably when I was like maybe 32, 33, where it was like, Yeah, I want to go out and I want to get the G-Wagon, I want to do X, Y, and Z, but I don't want to pay for it myself. Yeah, let me find an asset that's gonna pay me, and then I'll take the proceeds from that, and I'll go buy what it is I want. Exactly. But nine times out of ten, when I've talked to somebody who got something brand new, like I I just got a new car recently. It was actually, let me clear this up right now. The car I had prior to this was more expensive. Wow. I was looking at Tesla, I made the decision that I wanted to go EV. I was about to get the brand new one. Something stopped me and said, Man, this is it. Why are you buying a brand new vehicle? Because I did it before during the COVID bubble, and that was the only time in history where a brand new car was cheaper than a used car. So it only made sense for us to buy new at that time and get the warranties and all that stuff. But my Volkswagen Tiguan, I had spent 42k on that, and that's even a lesson in itself. I got the Tiguan because originally I was looking at an Audi, and then once I looked under the hood and I got into the details of it, exact same car. Yeah, same infotainment system, same everything. The only difference

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SPEAKER_00

was the logo. Exactly. So I was like, why would I pay another $30,000 just to have the logo and keep the same car? All right, cool, I'm not doing that. Got the $42,000 Tiguan. I was ready to make a change. I haven't had it for four or five years. Um, there were some little things in the car that were starting to piss me off. Um and once I decided to go use Tesla, I got my Tesla for the sale price on that car was $26,000. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00

I went from a $42,000 car to a $26,000 car, and I feel like I got a massive upgrade.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like I'm a tech guy and it's exactly what I wanted. But like once you take out the piece of you're trying to impress people, because what I've learned is that a lot of guys who want to go out and get the BMW, the Mercedes, da-da-da-day, not even car guys. They don't specifically love BMW, they love Mercedes. They love the reaction that it incites from other people when they roll up.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But once you get to a point in your life where like, and I'm a cuss right here, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about me. I don't. I don't care. The only the only opinions of people that matter to me are a very small number of people that are tight in my circle. Um, my wife, my mom, and my kids. Other than that, you ain't paying no bills for me, you ain't taking me to the next level, you ain't doing it. So why would I put that much value in your opinion of me and and how I'm moving? But once, to me, that was the most freeing thing ever. Once I mentally got to that point where I understood, it doesn't matter what other people think. Because no matter what I do, I'm gonna piss somebody off.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Like, yeah, I always use the example of like you could be you could leave here and you go drive and like some truck got tipped over and it had all these puppies in it. You could be on the side of the road scooping up puppies, saving their lives. Somebody, and then you post it on social media or something. Somebody's gonna look at that post, who you think he is? Is Mr. Doogood out here saving puppies? He thinks he all have you're never gonna please everybody. So why put so much effort in stock in what other people are thinking? Yeah, like but it seems like you've already got it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I yeah. I think also for me, what I learned and I started to appreciate is yeah, what you what you're talking about, but also me being in rooms with people that have those things, right? And then they have these nice cars, and then I I hear the personality, the things that they say, the way they carry themselves.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm just like I ask myself, what is more important? Is it cool to have a car? Or is it cool to be super mature? Yeah, you know, have have actually a good relationship with my family, friends, um holding things, you know, holding it down, or is it is it cool to just impress somebody for five seconds? And after that, you probably never see that person again. Exactly. No point of for me, like again, like if you if you did it, like I'm I'm not hate hating if you want to get a nice car, go ahead. But I'm just saying for me personally, right now, I'm just trying to, I'm building, so I don't really I don't really need a nice car right now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no judgment on anybody that's out there doing that, because I'm sure somebody looked at me like, Well, you gotta have a Tesla.

SPEAKER_01

I I think a Tesla for me, uh that that'd be a car I would get for sure. Because those are Dude, they're so dope. They're like, I mean, for a lot, they these seem like a luxury car. I actually a couple of years ago, we um

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SPEAKER_01

rented one for like 24 hours. Yeah. And I was just out there playing with it. I was like, yo, I got one of those.

SPEAKER_00

It's such a fun car. But um, yeah, like having that mentality, man, is is such a game changer. Um, being in the AI space, not specifically to your industry, um, a lot of people have questions about where AI is going, what's gonna happen with this. Um I'll I I don't think I've like publicly said this yet. Um AI number one, I think, is gonna for sure change social media. So a lot of people are unaware, and I was unaware until a few weeks ago, there's actually a social media platform out there right now that only operates with AI. So it's AI bots talking to each other, posting and everything, and humans aren't allowed to interact, we're only able to observe. Yeah. And apparently, like, they've come up with their own religion, and then at one point, one bot said to the other, like, hey, do you think we should make our own language so the humans don't know what we're talking about? And then one bot shut it down, like, nah, they're gonna see that as suspicious, and they'll they'll cut the plug or whatever. Um, so I and I see the benefits of that too, because it's gonna do a couple different things. Number one, I don't think AI is gonna eliminate all the jobs. Everybody freaks out anytime massive new tech comes out. They did it when the internet came out, they did it when Henry Ford started mass-producing vehicles. No, people will get new jobs just using AI as a tool. It's not gonna eliminate some jobs. Exactly. But it's not gonna make everybody unemployed. So for you and the space that you're you're in, maybe give us your top two or three things where you see AI is gonna take us to the next level. Um and it could be in the music space, it could be anything.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, for we we had a conversation with um like a couple weeks ago, and you're talking about making videos so like fast. So just being more efficient in that area, but I would also just say um probably for me, sometimes with my homework, I actually use Chat GPT to like explain something like you're talking to the dumbest person ever. So just like the way you learned, um, I think that so those two, and then the third one, I would probably just say um how how do you even I think even becoming like entrepreneurship is gonna be much easier. And um funny thing, right now I'm also in the works of developing an app as well to help that. Nice um so just I think that that figuring out what you are good at and your skills, I think that's just gonna help as well. So you can just pretty much cruise in, start do building things and stop worrying about paying for tons of money on courses and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, I love that. What what are some of your favorite AI tools right now?

SPEAKER_01

Probably ChatGPT. Um I know Google has on Gemini. I use Gemini as as just as good.

SPEAKER_00

So I really haven't delved into Gemini a lot. Between the two, Chat GPT and Gemini, which one do you prefer? And why?

SPEAKER_01

Um I think out of those two, I'll even put in the third, and it's uh, dude, we we use it all the time. I forgot I'm blinking on the name. Um there's one that's more that gives you better information

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SPEAKER_01

more accurately. I think Chat GPT is good, but there is a block where you have to pay um where they they get you, you know. Oh you're using this, so you're gonna pay this much.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I've been paying for a minute. Yeah. And I'm like, this technology is too good. That's the best 20 bucks a month I've ever seen. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, so that so as accurate as it gets, it's probably I would say chat GPT, but I like I mean Gibb and I is just as good, especially um with the the futures of you can just take a picture. Yeah. Because I think ChatGPT, if you you're not paying for it, you only get a couple pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd probably say Gemini, I think all of them just have different reasons why they're they're better than the other person. I don't really have one that's just top top level for me.

SPEAKER_00

Gotcha. Paint a picture for us. It's what what year is this now? 2026. Let's say 2031. What does your life look like?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question. Um I would probably again, I hope um Forbes 30 under 30. I think I hope I get I get that. Um but also my just impacting, you know, changing, changing, giving people opportunities because I was given an opportunity. So investing probably into like the younger, younger generation. Um, because I believe that entrepr I think a lot of us are actually entrepreneurs, but we don't actually give ourselves opportunities to explore that path, you know. Um because there's just an expectation, which I think school is very important, but I think there's also the the flexibility, especially online. Like I wish like I hope my kids when I do that they go to online school and I can pretty much teach them all the business aspects that I want them to learn. Um so I hope that I I would hope um you know, I hope because I want to give my my mom a beach house. So that's that's one of my goals. I hope I've done that, achieved that goal, but also just settle down. Um I'm not really too big on you know partying and stuff, so I'd probably just settle down. Um hopefully get closer to buying some land. I want to just I want to have some land and build build a house.

SPEAKER_02

There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Um but yeah, I don't really have like that. I that's so far ahead and I like to stay in the present.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Um but those are those are a couple things. Hopefully just even having a nice car. I don't exactly know what car I'd want, but just looking back, being able to look back and knowing that I used most of my twenties, I still would be I'm in my twenties, but I used at least most of them to just to work hard. Build, yeah. You know, to build to build and then continue to build, be an example. Um I really want to also become like a a speaker as well. So just going places and speaking, not just business, but just faith-wise as well, because that's something that has completely changed my life, created the discipline, um, allowed me to even discern like what people who I hang out with, you know, just who get who deserves my energy, who deserves that. And I hope again, I hope our agency is big where we have, you know, we're right now we want to get a third person, just a tech person, but even much bigger than that, maybe like five to ten people. Yeah. And I started another business. I'm trying to buy a boomer business as well. So that's something I hope I do by

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SPEAKER_01

then as well.

SPEAKER_00

Night, that's a smart play, is like buying an existing business and not have to build it from the ground up. And you nailed it there, man. Twenties is for grinding. Like, don't and I'm not saying don't have fun, definitely have fun, but your 20s is for grinding. You're supposed to be broke in your 20s. Everybody has this because you have guys like School of Hard Knocks where like you got some unicorns out there, guys at 22 years old, that are making $10 million a year. That is not the norm. That's the 1% of the 1%. At that age bracket, you typically do not see that. Um, 30s is where you get yourself more established in a career. And 40s is where you really start the we're really starting to see the wealth building aspect of that. Um, but most people don't look at it like that. They don't realize, hey, I need to put in strong effort for the next 20 years to make my life what it what I want it to be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite quotes from the School of Heart Not is stay small enough long enough, you'll get big enough soon enough. So that that's something that quote has stayed with me every day like every day I think about that. You know, I'm not trying to, I don't need to have all these nice things right now. Yeah. Just keep it as clean as it can, and then you know, well, there's an opportunity, cool, you can you can do that. But right now, that's not really necessary. Go invest in real estate. Go even invest in education. I I honestly there's so there's so much wisdom out there um within people that it's actually worth paying for. Even going to like events. You know, I want to I was I want to start like there's some I went to one uh was it there's one with Tim Tebow and other other business people um that was actually at the Altria that I went to. It was I was super glad I paid paid together, right? Um James Smith, I think you can look him up. He does, he does, I think he's a whole wholesaler for real estate, but he's he's done extremely well for himself, and I I learned about real estate from there. So just the ability to invest within yourself and um even bet on yourself because I a lot of people my age don't like that uh like the idea of betting on themselves and taking risks.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm more like I feel like right now you should be taking risks, especially this is the time in your life to take as much risk.

SPEAKER_01

You're on your parents, you're on your parents' roof, like go take, go build something, if it messes up, oh well, right?

SPEAKER_00

Your parents are still paying the insurance, they're gonna keep a roof over your head, all this stuff. Mess up as much as you can. When I say mess up as much as you can, if you have an idea for 10 different businesses, go start them all now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because number one, at your age, you have the energy, exactly, right? You figured out ways to create more time throughout the day than most of your peers. Like they're stuck in school for eight hours a day. You're getting your work done two, three hours, and you're able to do what you need to do. Exactly. Um, that that right there is such a key, man. And paying to be in certain rooms, like it took me a while to understand that concept, too,

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SPEAKER_00

of like, man, why am I gonna pay this dude a hundred bucks like just to talk or go to this dinner and have this conversation? But the conversations that are happening at those tables aren't happening anywhere else.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, like Myron, I mean I've seen some of those, like he's he's expensive to be.

SPEAKER_00

He's like a million bucks. Like I heard him drop one time. It was like, hey, if you want to work with me, it's gonna cost you at least a million dollars. I'm like, I can't imagine being at the level where just for flapping my gum, somebody's gonna stroke me a check for seven figures. Yeah. That's insane. That's insane. But I guarantee I guarantee you, Myron's worth every he's worth every dime.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that that's where again, like where I tell you, like, in invest in that. But it also invest in yourself, you know. Take like if I could tell anybody to just take risks. Like, you know, like you're not gonna see anything unless you like take the risk. Like, even you, you don't even know if it's gonna go well or even go bad. Just like do it. Um, and for me, like I've been able, even the way even investing in the way that you carry yourself, I guess in confidence in the way you communicate. So read, um what like I watch sales videos, I watch people on the see how they communicate. Just learning how to if you learn how to communicate, you can do any business that you want to do. So the number one skill. And you don't even need to know the skill of that business. If you can communicate, you I'm telling you, that's that's the way to success. And I've personally in my in our business, like that's um led me to really good conversations and just a bunch of you know good stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, life has sales. Like when you're in school, if you get a bad grade on a paper and you're just two points away from passing and getting this GPA, like you gotta go sell yourself to the professor. Hey man, I'll work, I'll I'll put in some OT, like I'll I'll do extra projects, like whatever you need me to do. I I just need this extra two points. Or when you're dating someone for the first time, like you got to sell yourself to that person. You go apply for a job, like whatever it is. You're always selling yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And it's one of the the least developed skills, I think, of the average person.

SPEAKER_01

Is that they're not investing time to learn how to communicate and then yeah, and then also like when you're young, like I'm single, so just like investing in not just your business, but also into yourself, right? Like put yourself in opportunities to meet somebody else, but also um, you know, find a balance of where you're gonna you gotta like to be able to sell yourself, you gotta be given something, right? Like especially I don't I don't think a lot of people my age are emotionally available for people. So just like under like understanding that, so just again, like the communication is key, but also investing in your health, because that's more important. I I believe more important than how much money you make is how healthy you are and how you take care of yourself, the way you eat, the way you think.

SPEAKER_00

Um and it's not fun being rich and being 150 pounds overweight.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's and you really see that. Like there are some guys, um I forget his name, but uh, he's a he's a another real estate investor guy that I watch on YouTube, and he's he's a big fella. And but he out of he's probably the only one that I actually follow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That is like that's big. Everybody else is in shape. You know, um, they they take their like Robert Um from the Shark Tank, he talks about it all the time. Your

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SPEAKER_01

health is super important. That's the biggest flex of actually having money is being able to invest into your health. Oh yeah. Like Tony Robbins as well, he invests crazy into his health.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, yeah. Like I've always looked at it from the perspective of um, because we got young kids, five and four, but like if my son or my daughter was ever like, you know, my dad's gonna kick your ass type. It's like, oh really, your dad? Like anywhere in the world. Like, I always wanted them to be able to look and be like, you know, my I don't have an eight-pack or anything like that, but like, hey, my dad's in shape, like he's not one of these ones out here slouching and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, I mean, I see I see you every like even that's for me, like that's the type of feed I like the people I follow as well. Like, I follow you on uh social media and seeing you up early in the morning. I'm pretty sure I'm up there as well, and I see you, and it's like all right, iron sharpens iron, you know. So I just I allow I don't allow I think. That's what people do, they get into the the competitive, like they think everybody is you versus that person, and it's like it's versus yourself, yeah. You get tired, it gets tiring having that mindset, yeah. Um, and it's not as freeing, but for me personally, I had the mindset of wow, that that person is just challenging me. You know, it's and it's not it's in a healthy way. Um, even Jordan and I talk about like we're like for as business, we're not in competition with anybody right. You know, we're we're gonna sell you something. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, you know, you still want to be your friend, right? Yeah, we we don't want to burn bridges for just because, you know, business-wise, because it's yeah, that's not what it's about.

SPEAKER_00

And I'll say straight on here to give you guys uh a kudos for what you're doing. Um, and I didn't even like I know you were fairly new in this business, but I didn't even realize it was as little as three months. Yeah, um, I met with you and your business partner, y'all walked me through your model, what you guys could do here for us. Um, honestly, everything you guys showed me, I was super impressed with. It just wasn't the right fit for us. And it doesn't mean that later on down the road it's not gonna be the right fit because I can't tell you how many times a client told me no, and then three years later they're back. And it's a much better situation, though. You talked about your faith. Like, I fully believe that God brings people into your life at certain points for certain reasons. And my thought process when I'm sitting down, like I had three sales calls today. And when I'm done with someone at the end of that, I'm like, look, bruh, call me next week. Don't call me. I don't really care. You know what we provide, we're willing to work with you. If you need us, we're here. If not, man, we'll cross paths somewhere else down the road. Yeah. Um, but the ones that have always come back to me, it almost came back tenfold. Where like it was in the early days where like I was charging like $500 a month for something. Now that same thing, I may be charging $2,500 for. And they're in a position that they can pay that new tab. They couldn't even mess with me with the old tab before. So it's like the stuff you think you may want, and that, you know, because as a business owner, it's all about the cash flow. You're just trying to get things ramped up, get the client base, all that kind of stuff. But sometimes the things you think are right for you and your business, God will put those roadblocks up and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And we look, we may look at it on the outside, like, man, what's what's up, man? That would have been the perfect client for me. Like, no, no, no, no. Like, there are so many things, like, even the drive over here. Oftentimes I just reflect, like, man, how many times did God save my life on the drive here to my office where like somebody wasn't paying attention on the road and like he flipped that uh street light from yellow to red real quick so that I wasn't on that block when that accident happened.

SPEAKER_01

Like, amen. Amen. Yeah, um, yeah, exactly. Um that that's a that's a really good perspective that you put out because that's what that's what we believe in, right? We don't believe in like if someone says no like right away, we don't we don't want to look at it in the negative. Like a lot of people they get down.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And people hate hate hearing the word no, but since I've actually been um I did a real I did a real estate internship for a little bit, so I was doing a bunch of cold calling. So I that was the that was the answer I was familiar with. No.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And when you're cold calling and you when you're cold calling and you're doing a lot of people each day, you get kind of used to it, but you don't allow it to affect you, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and again, like like we want to have relationships with people because that's the most important part for us, is just having great relationships and communicating well with people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And like after after your message, I I called him, I I told him, and then even Jordan, like he he great mindset. So that's it's such a it's uh such an honor to have somebody that you're working with that has the same energy as you when it comes to that. And he was just like, he's like, Well, that's that's okay, you know, like not nothing that happens as part of business, and we and I understand that, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, um but I loved your response, your immediate response. I I don't know specifically, like I'm paraphrasing here. Ultimately, you came back to me and said, Yeah, man, that's cool. Um, but hey, I still want to work with you, I still want to refer services out to you. And my immediate response to you was, hey man, anybody you send me, I'll cut your check for 20%. And you didn't take that at a service level. I could see that you really received that because your next question to me was, Well, who are you trying to target? Who do I need to put you in front of?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, because right now we're we're doing uh we're working on a product for some real estate agents as well. So that's that's what we're we're uh working on right now, and we have other other clients out um that we argue and there's probably Sindra as well. Um being coaching, exactly them checks in, man. But exactly that and that's what it's about. And in our mind is like we understand there's abundance, there's a bunch for everybody that it's not just you know this amount of money in this world, and then you have to have it. And that's what the mindset with a lot of business owners is. And that's what we want to change. Our mindset is not gonna be like that. We're not gonna be like, um we're not gonna be stingy, we're not gonna be all that. Just continue to work. There is no cap on success. The other the other day, um, I was talking to to somebody and they referred referred me, you know, to somebody else. And it was just it was just because of our conversation, yeah, you know, um, and just um just understanding that they would they went a different direction, but I'm still gonna give you an opportunity to do something. And they may see it and they'd be like, oh, whoa, let's let's work with them.

SPEAKER_00

And last thing, like getting back to the biblical principles, like this is the funny thing to me. I'm like, even if someone's not a believer, the business lessons you can get out of the Bible, dude. This is where it all started. Like the Bible talks about all these things about how to build a business, how to create wealth. Like, and we got this old, especially in the black churches, where it's it's you're more of a Christian if you're poor and you're suffering in this world and still able to praise Christ, and then you'll get your reward in heaven. I fully believe I I need a reward here and I need a reward there too. Like, there's no reason I should be struggling here. I don't think God put me on this earth to struggle.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah. Um, I've I'm a huge believer in that as well. But there I think there are different ways of struggle. Um that it may not be necessary financially, but there's other ways that you do have a tough time on earth. Absolutely. And I think that I think the mindset that we need to have is instead of looking at people with money as enemies and stuff, we just gotta start looking at ourselves and ask ourselves why are we hating on that person? Like even if it isn't about money, like I don't like again, I don't believe in like hating people. Um, I believe that the words that you say have power. I believe all those type of things. So just putting out positive energy and bring um surround yourself with positive people, but also carrying yourself in that way where again, like I was I I've been in Ecclesiastes and Proverbs, those are my two favorite books, especially on business level.

SPEAKER_00

People have been hitting me with Ecclesiastes, yeah. I gotta dive in there a little hard.

SPEAKER_01

You should, yeah. I mean, you there's so like the business wisdom that's that's in there where the um he had he had all the wisdom in the world, but he didn't have discernment. He had he had all the wives, but he didn't actually feel fulfilled, right? So uh me knowing, and I I guess both of us knowing that our fulfillment doesn't come from our business, it comes from our relationship with God. Like that's the most important thing.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Just have faith and believe that there is something bigger than you because there is. I like I I don't even if you don't believe in God, I think there is something that's much bigger than us. Absolutely that we can't really explain.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, you are I have never been more confident in sitting across someone who's 17 years old that this person's gonna make it in life. Like, there is no doubt in my mind that you will find wild success, man. So I want you to throw out your social media channels to everybody because I'm telling y'all, follow this dude because you're gonna be saying, oh man, I remember one day when he was doing da-da-da-da-da, and now he's on the four top four.

SPEAKER_01

Forbes, yeah, forbes 30 under 30. We're gonna do that. So, where can we find you online? You can find me on Instagram, um, Jeremiah Schwartz Zero. That's my handle. And you can even, if you got anything, questions, you can uh DM me. I'll give you again a shout. It can even be a phone call. We can talk about whatever you want, even about faith. You know, it's not even I'm not gatekeeping anything over here. I want to help people, and that's the most important thing to me. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Thank you, Sam, for having me.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_01

And I hope to be on here again. I think you I think you gotta have Jerry Green on next.

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I'm with it, man. Get on here. Let's bring him. Let's bring him. All right, man. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you on the next episode.