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You Can't Afford Me
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You Can't Afford Me
How A Travel Planner Builds Trips You Cannot Google
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You can book a trip in minutes, but can you build a trip that actually feels like you? We sit down with Joe Foster, owner of Living Your Bucket Listed Travel, to talk about what separates a basic booking from a true bucket list experience and why the difference shows up when you land, not when you click “confirm.”
We get into the real-world value of working with a travel agent or travel planner in the age of Expedia and AI. Joe breaks down how commission is often already built into the price you see online, why an agent can sometimes find better rates, and what happens when a flight, hotel, or excursion goes sideways in a foreign country. His sports analogy says it best: anybody can draw up the play, but you need someone who can make the save when the play breaks.
From Italy and Curacao to culture shifts around food quality, customs, and how you’re treated abroad, we talk about travel as perspective, not just entertainment. Joe shares bucket list travel stories like a Rose Bowl trip and a Pro Football Hall of Fame birthday with VIP touches you can’t easily DIY, plus ideas for dream golf trips and golf travel packages.
If you’re planning a destination wedding, honeymoon, group travel, or a once-in-a-lifetime vacation, hit play and take notes. Subscribe, share this with your favorite travel friend, and leave a review, what’s the one trip you refuse to die without taking?
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Welcome And Meet Joe Foster
SPEAKER_02And that is 35. Real. Real trunk. And the unfiltered journey is good. Hey guys, thanks for joining us on another episode of the You Can't Afford Me podcast. I'm excited about this one. So my best friend, uh, he has wonderlust like crazy. And he's always pushing on me, like, man, you need to get out in the world more, you need to travel a little bit more. I'm actually looking at dual citizenship in Ghana right now, so I may be talking to you about that here in a minute. But uh our guest today is Joe. He's in the uh travel space, but a little bit different. So, first off, Joe, how are you doing today, buddy?
SPEAKER_00Good. How are you, Steven?
SPEAKER_02Fantastic, man. So uh first, uh give us a quick rundown of who you are and what you do.
SPEAKER_00Okay, awesome. Thanks for that uh stirring introduction, by the way. Appreciate you. Absolutely. So my name is Joe Foster. I'm the owner of Living Your Bucket Listed Travel. Been in the business about eight years, uh coming up in October. So, you know, been in for a minute and steadily growing. So I'd certainly appreciate that aspect of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But uh, you know, as far as uh the things I focus on with travel, I like to uh plan uh destination weddings, honeymoons, uh group travel, and what I'll call bucket list experiences, hence the name of my company. I mean, I like to to plan those unique type of vacations that are the run of the mill every day type of vacation, right? Absolutely. Uh one, you know, I fulfill my client's dream of you know taking such a vacation. And then two, on a selfish level, I learn something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Learn a lot and be able to apply that to future clients and maybe even put that on my bucket list again. Yeah. You know? Because that's a lot to see in this world.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. So you you're not you're not putting people on flights to Kansas City.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, no, no, absolutely not. I mean, I can, you know, that's what you'd like me to do, but you know, like I said, I just like to do very unique things.
How Italy Sparked A Travel Business
SPEAKER_02Love it, love it. So, how did you first even get into this sector?
SPEAKER_00Oh wow. Well, I guess I've always loved the travel, right? You know, I've always had one dulce, you know, just like your best friend. But uh back in 2017, uh, took a trip to Italy uh with a group of people, right? This was like September 2017. Yeah. I was living in uh Maryland at the time. And so when I came back, not even a week later, I went to this uh festival uh in suburban Baltimore and I ran across a woman who would eventually become my sponsor in the business. I saw her table and I said, hmm, travel, okay, let me check that out and see what that's about. So I approached her at the table and she asked me two questions. One, do you like to travel? Yeah. Two, do you like to meet money? Heck yeah. So, you know, with that, you know, we got to talking. I went to some informational sessions and I decided to jump into the business and you know, it's been great ever since.
Curacao And Big Culture Differences
SPEAKER_02Nice, nice. Well, let's talk about the the travel overall first. So uh you said yourself you like to travel. So let's start with uh what's been the most exciting place you've ever traveled to?
SPEAKER_00I would probably say Italy. Uh a close second would be Curacao.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Uh a lot of people, I guess generally speaking, don't know about Curacao. Yeah. It's kind of like one of the intriguing things that I like.
SPEAKER_02All right, I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna go ahead and and and admit that I'm ignorant. Where in the world is that?
SPEAKER_00It's actually uh part of the ABC Island chain, which includes Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao. Yeah. About 60 miles north of South America.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So, you know, warm all the time, oblivious to hurricanes. You know, hurricanes pass by each and every time, so that makes it a federal, favorable spot.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh you know, Aruba is more the I guess Americanized island. Yeah. Um Curacao is catered more toward Europeans. So you get like a different perspective on uh how people live and how people like to travel and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02So that's a curaca. That's a big thing that like I'm interested in in terms of travel. So like I am in the process of I know me and my wife and some friends are going to uh Mexico next year. We've we've already planned that trip. Okay. Um I'm trying to get things in line to get to Africa this year. Okay. Um, but I want to ask you, what is the biggest thing that you notice with the cultures and the people when you travel outside of the United States? Because obviously, right now, like this is a crazy time in the United States. Uh you got people being shot by ice and uh all the political things that are going on, snap benefits break in, and I even look at like the diet of Americans. Like, I saw a video on Instagram a couple days ago. Young lady poured out a Fanta, like the orange soda, and she poured it out the American version, bright orange, like neon orange. She poured out the European version, it was like a light yellow.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02Theirs had like I think five ingredients max in the Fanta soda, and ours had like 50. So, like, just the quality of food and things that you're getting in other countries is being done way different in other countries than it is here. So, what are the major differences you see?
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's absolute fact. Uh, that's definitely uh a major difference. I mean, I can tell you when I went to Italy, I mean, the food was so much fresher in Italy than Italian here in the United States, not even a comparison.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and you can eat pasta and ice cream every day and lose weight back. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean, I've done that and I've had people that tell me they've had, you know, they've experienced that themselves. Like they'll go to Europe, you know, pig out, and they've actually lost a few pounds when they come back. Yeah. Wow, you know, how does that happen? But that's it. You know, a lot of uh European countries ban a lot of ingredients that are illegal here in America. So that's you know, the difference there. Um I could tell you, you know, when you're traveling to foreign countries, if people feel that you're making an effort to understand their customs, their culture, how they live, you know, nine times out of ten, they will be very friendly toward you and help you to get the best experience that you can while you're traveling in their country. Yeah, you can't go over there expecting American things in a foreign country, right? You need to understand, because like if you want everything to be Americanized, why are you leaving the United States? Exactly. Right? You're going to experience somebody else's culture, learn something, you know, to help you live better when you come back to the States and maybe able to impart that knowledge to your friends and family to say, hey, you know, I went to Italy, you know, these types of things happen. You know, what would happen if we incorporated one of two of those things in our lives, you know, back here in America?
Why Travel Helps You Reset
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Absolutely. Um Yeah, that that piece, the culture I've seen speaking of two black men sitting here, what I've heard from my friends who travel a lot more than me is that they get treated better overseas in a lot of scenarios than they do here. So, like those major uh culture shifts there. Why do you think it's so important for people to travel? Like, especially someone like me, where I'm a serial entrepreneur. Like, I know my purpose on this earth is being an entrepreneur. Yes. Before I'm a father, before I'm a husband, I'm an entrepreneur. And your purpose. Yeah. And if I honestly, if I wasn't married, I don't know how often I would ever travel because this is my happy place. I love getting to work and being able to create every single day. But as I've continued to grow, I mean, I've been doing this 11 years now. As I continue to grow, I realize like I'll hit certain ceilings in terms of my capacity because I'm just burning myself out sometimes and don't even realize it. So what do you think are some of the massive benefits of traveling?
SPEAKER_00Uh well, I I think the last thing you just said, I mean, I think you have to step away from your everyday grind at times, you know, and experience something different. You know, let your mind experience something else, you know, just to take the break off of that so when you come back you can be refreshed and you can have you know have better clarity of thought, you know, being able to do those things. Two, especially if you have a family, you know, being able to create those memories with your loved ones. You know, when you take, you know, a kid to Disneyland, Disney World, whatever, or if you take them to the Greek islands and tour, right, you know, to see those things and create the wanderlust in their mind and spark ideas in their mind that they can, you know, incorporate as they're growing up and be a more remote well-rounded person, you know, as they grow up and be able to see the world in a different light and have more empathy and sympathy towards folks that have different cultures and customs and things of that nature.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00And three, have some damn fun. Yeah. You know, you know, I I know a lot of people that would maybe like to rock climb or whatever, you know, go to the British Virgin Islands. You know, you can have beautiful scenery, rock climb, enjoy nature. And I I I think that's probably one of my favorite vacations as well. Nice. Going to the British Virgin Islands. You know, just going to somewhere where you don't have a lot of commercial resorts and stuff like that. You know, and you're surrounded by nature, you know, by the trees, by the fauna and the fauna and you know, the water and all that stuff. Yeah. Just beautiful. We're we're here for a good time, not a long time. That's right. That's exactly right.
Why A Travel Agent Matters
SPEAKER_02We gotta enjoy while we're here. Let me let me ask you a question, a lot of people are maybe thinking. And I thought this for a while. I actually um I'm currently mentoring a couple there in the travel space as well, too. Okay. Um a lot of people think with today's technology, why in the world would I pay somebody else to book all of my travel arrangements and do that when I have the internet at my fingertips? I can go to Expedia, I can use ChatGPT to put together planning, different things like that. Why, what's the benefit of working with a professional like you versus me just going online and doing it myself?
SPEAKER_00Um, I'm gonna put this in sports terms, right? You're a football coach. You draw up a play, you have X's and O's, right? Yep. And you can formulate the play and design it the way it's supposed to. But if the plan doesn't go that way, do you have a player that can play beyond the X's and the O's? Can they scramble out of the pocket? Yeah. You know, can they throw a 50-yard bomb on the run, right? Can they escape pressure from the pocket? Yeah. You know, scramble like 10 to 15 yards to get that critical first down. You know, and I and I say that to say that's what the travel agent does. Yeah. The travel agent goes beyond the X's and the O's, right? I could certainly go on a computer on Expedia Chat, GPT, whatever, and make those plans. But travel agents have access to what we'll call in-country uh uh destination personnel. Yeah. People that actually live in those countries where you're trying to go. So they live the experience every day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right? So, you know, I can contact those people as a travel agent and say, hey, I have a client that wants to come to Thailand, right? You know, they're looking to do A, B, and C. You know, what are your recommendations for that? Yeah, I see, and those computer things, they're only as good as the information that gets input into that. Oh, absolutely. They're not boots on the ground going out and actually seeing those places. You know, and and experiencing those activities and excursions that you may be interested in, right? So while that stuff is good, and it's good to start off with, you know, ultimately if you go to a travel agent, you can be insured that that person is working for you on your behalf. And then what if something goes wrong? Expedia and Chat GPT is not going to help you resolve issues. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Especially when you're in a foreign land and you don't know anybody.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. You know, that travel agent will be able to bring resources to bear to get those issues resolved for you, you know, in a timely manner. So that, you know, hopefully your vacation is not totally ruined by whatever, you know, mishap may happen. Yeah. And I've had a couple of those to happen, unfortunately. Oh, sure. But, you know, but able to get in and resolve it because I jumped on it right away and said, you know, this person needs assistance with A, B, and C. You know, let's get this thing resolved. ASAP.
SPEAKER_02So and I never I didn't even realize until I started mentoring this one couple that was in the space. Um, number one, like I would go online, like there was a conference in DC I was going to last year. Um, and I went about the book and I was like, wait, I have a client who does this, like, let me throw the business her way. Yeah. Um, and I had done my research prior to even calling her. Um, and the rates she came back with for me were cheaper than anything I was finding online, and her costs were already baked into that. So talk about, because I think a lot of people uh think that, oh, if I hire a travel agent, I'm gonna be paying for my travel plus all their fees and all this stuff stacking up. So break down what that looks like for people.
What Travel Agents Cost You
SPEAKER_00That's actually a good question, and that's certainly uh education that I have to provide, you know, a few of my clients as I'm planning their travel. So in most cases, commission is built into the rate that's published.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um the thing is, right, uh, if I pick it for you, then that travel supplier is going to pay me whatever that commission is that's baked in. Yeah. Um if the client does it themselves, then that travel partner is going to keep that commission that's already built in.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00There are some cases where they provide what's called a net rate, which is basically their wholesale cost, and then the travel agent will have to, you know, build in some sort of fee to cover the work that he or she did. But obviously we're gonna keep that in line with what the market will bear, right? So, you know, if you go to Expedia and you pull up a package and it's like$3,000, right? Yeah, I'm not gonna say, okay, I'm gonna charge you$4,000 and build in$1,000 because it's gonna be like and you must be nuts. You know what I mean? But you know, help the client to understand that, hey, you know, I'm gonna build a little bit of the sin, but it's to cover my costs for my time for providing the service for you. Absolutely. You know, and for me, you know, I I I I dig deep. I mean, I go really deep when I when I put together uh uh client um uh itineraries for my clients because I want them to have the best experience possible for the budget that they set forth.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Right? Because I want them to A, come back to me, and now B, you know, I want them to go tell their family and friends, hey, you know, Joe Foster put together a great vacation package for me, and if you're looking to have those type of services, you know, you should use him. So, you know, I I I do that, I do that as a labor of love. You know, I I love people to be able to experience uh those memories when they're on vacation. And I've got two or three instances where people have come back and say, you know what, what you put together was great. My family really appreciated it. We needed that, you know, we made some great memories, and that that makes my heart swell with pride, you know, to know that I had something to do with them making those memories, you know what I mean? Absolutely. It's not an ego thing, it's it's a humble humility type of thing, you know what I mean? For sure. And it and it and it reaffirms that I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I think it's that convenience factor too. Like I had this thought process for the longest time, and I had to change my mentality where broke people think doing something themselves and saving the cash is gonna help them financially in the long term. Right. Versus wealthy-minded people are looking at tasks and thinking, okay, if I can go out and command$150 an hour, why would I spend my time doing a$20 an hour task when I can just pay somebody to do that and I can go out and earn that$150 an hour? So, like, I think it was a year ago, I transitioned to finally having a guy do the landscaping of my house. I was like, bro, I don't have time to be out on a Saturday anymore cutting the grass for two hours. I'm willing to pay the fees, and he's very reasonably priced. I'm willing to pay the fees for the convenience. And I think that's really where the marketplace has shifted, is like, I don't want, like, there are days I need somebody to run out just to get my lunch. Like, it's not like yo, I'm trying to be high seddy and like I'm the big boss type thing. Like, yo, my schedule is literally so stacked. If I don't give somebody my credit card and have them run out to the store for me, I'm not gonna eat today. Um, so how do people respond to that? Is that a big piece of why they use your services?
SPEAKER_00Uh some of it. Some of it. It's that. And then some people, you know, just don't have the I'll say the how do I want to put this? We just don't have the patience. Well, whatever it's all about, I'll say more patience, yeah. You know, to go in and do the research. Yeah. You know what I mean? And figure those things out and logistically put things together.
SPEAKER_02Because that takes time.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. You know, my my background is like logistics logistics and supply chain. So I mean, you know, being a travel planner is great for me. I just look at each, I look at each uh client as like a project management type of thing. You know what I mean? Each itinerary, uh, I'm it's a mini project, you know, to put that thing together, you know, within budget and on a time frame. So, you know, that's kind of the way I look at it and approach it in a logistical type of way, and things just kind of fall into place.
SPEAKER_02Love it, love it. Let's let's break down what because what what attracted me to you and your business in terms of the way you're doing it, you described it differently than what I've heard from other people in your industry, where you're putting together these bucketless trips. Um, so let's go a little bit deeper on that in terms of give me an example of like a bucket list trip. Is this like somebody going to the Grand Canyon, or is this like, hey, I want Super Bowl tickets in San Francisco this year, or hey, the Olympic the winter Olympics is going, I want to be in France, I want this going on. Describe to us what those bucketless trips can look like.
SPEAKER_00I can give you a couple of them. Uh, and these were recent trips as well. So the first one I'll talk about is I had a client whose husband was retiring as a football referee, uh, high school and college level, and he always wanted to go to the Rose Bowl. So I planned that trip for them. You know, I I I found a company, a ticket broker, they provide all types of services, and they flew out to Los Angeles. They went to the Rose Bowl parade, they went to the game. And he absolutely loved it. I was a little scared for them because it had rained hard the day before, and I was hoping that they wouldn't get rained on uh the next day, but the weather turned out to be quite beautiful. I mean, the game wasn't great. Indiana stomped Alabama, you know, but that's a whole nother conversation, right? But you know, he was very pleased at the experience, you know, something that he and his wife were able to bond over. You know what I mean? So that was um an enjoyable one. And then the other one, this was October of last year. Uh, a good friend of mine, she wanted to take her grandson to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio for his 14th birthday. So, yeah, so we planned all that out, you know.
SPEAKER_02I gotta have a talk with my parents. I ain't do nothing like that.
SPEAKER_00I actually did go to the Hall of Fame when I was 14, but nothing like that. Nothing is true. I think like that. You know, just went in and checked out the museum and it was an awesome experience for me. So I was kind of, I guess, reliving memories vicariously through them, you know, when I was planning this trip. So, you know, I I managed to book like a VIP tour for them, you know, through the Hall of Fame. And then um they also visited the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland like the day before. Yeah. I I arranged it so that um on their LED board it uh plastered uh message happy birthday, you know. Nice to the to the young man, and he wasn't expecting it. So he's walking through and he's looking up.
SPEAKER_02See, and it's those little touches like that that the person like me can't sit there and book stuff like that.
Dream Golf Trips And Wild Views
SPEAKER_00Exactly, exactly. And uh his grandmother was telling me he looked up on the board and he's like, Do they have my name flashing up there? Happy birthday! She's like, Yeah. I mean, it just like made his entire trip and they took the videos and pictures, you know, he could brag to his friends and other different types of stuff. And as she was telling me about the experience, man, I I mean, I'll be honest with you, I was struggling to hold back tears because you know it meant so much to them, you know, to be able to have those memories and be able to take that trip. Uh, they'd had a loss in their family recently, so it was a good therapeutic uh uh session for them as well to be able to get away and uh create those memories and enjoy all of those things, man. And it just again, it just warmed my heart to be able to do that. Nice.
SPEAKER_02So love it. I have uh I have uh you saw the golf bags out when you when you came in here. I'm gonna get a couple swings in with uh one of my team members a little bit later today. Uh and I know a lot of people that listen to this show, they're into the game of golf. For me, like I saw a I'll I would do it in Africa. I saw one in Australia, and I'm like, the bugs and animals are too big in Australia. That's a continent I'll never put my feet on. Uh but what about golf trips? Do you have, can you put together packages for like the dream golf trips?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. I work with the vendors, that's all they do. Uh, are golf packages, you know, uh whether it's land or whether actually golf cruises. Yeah. Like they'll uh in Spain, in fact, you know, they'll go around the whole Iberian Peninsula and stop at two or three courses and you can get off and play as your uh shore excursion. So absolutely. You know, if you want to Oh, we're gonna have to talk about that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00You know, if you want to go to the Masters or Pebble Beach, you know, stuff like that, you know, let's get it. I remember um a few years ago I was in uh Charleston, uh my my uh lady's 50th birthday. We went down there for the weekend, and I just happened to say, okay, I'd like to take what we'll call a site inspection for travel agents to be able to go to properties and take a look and you know, take pictures and be able to sell that to clients. So I happened to go to uh Kiwa Island, you know, where the PGA uh championship is held every few years, and I was able to tour that facility, you know, and actually they have holes that overlook the beach, right? So I mean that was a pretty awesome experience to be able to tour that place and be able to recommend it to my clients. Now it's not cheap.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00You know, don't get me wrong, you're gonna pay uh a nice penny for it. But I mean, if you love golf like that and you have the coin to be able to, you know, experience that it's highly recommended.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I I saw the video that stuck in my head. I saw this on Instagram one day. You guys were golfing in Africa.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I mean, it's elephants and giraffes just walking by, and you're I was like, man, that has to be the most amazing experience. So immediately I'm like, that's now at the top of my bucket list in terms of travel. Like, I want to go play golf in Africa and have giraffes and elephants walking around in the background while I'm putting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that would be a totally awesome experience.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Love it. Love it. All right, man. This has been awesome. This gave us a lot of good information on the travel space. In particular for you, let me ask, uh, who are your typical clients in terms of who's the average person that is seeking out these services? Is this somebody that's in the prime of their career? Is it uh people that are in retirement? What do you see the most, the people that are taking these bucket list trips?
SPEAKER_00Well, it's a whole gamut. It's a whole gamut. I mean, I would say probably maybe 10 years ago, it was probably like someone in their 50s or older. But you know, as our economy has evolved into a more, I guess, service-based and internet-based type of environment, you know, the younger people are earning more money faster. Yeah. So, you know, someone in their 20s could call me and say, hey, you know, I want to take a weekend trip uh to Punta Cana. In fact, I've got that happening right now. You know, I'm booking a five-day vacation for a couple and young couple, and they may end up bringing some folks with them as well. So I mean, at this point, it just runs the whole gamut, uh, honestly.
Starting In Travel And Reaching Joe
SPEAKER_02Gotcha. And if someone wants if someone listening right now is like, this is an industry they've always been interested in, and they're interested in dipping their toe into this business, what are the top three things you give them in terms of advice on how to get started?
SPEAKER_00Um, I would say be prepared to go through the grind. I mean, I I can tell you from my experience, it was a whole year before I uh commissioned my first client. So, you know, be patient.
SPEAKER_02Yep. I tell uh I tell people all the time, if you're if you're getting entrepreneurship and you're not prepared to not make any money in the first two years, don't even bother getting started.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yep. Be patient. Um learn everything that you can uh you know about the industry.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then three, uh, pick a niche. You know, obviously you can book any type of travel that you want. Yeah. But if there's a particular type or style of travel that interests you, concentrate on that.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I know some folks concentrate on Disney. Some folks concentrate on people with special needs. Some people concentrate on the Caribbean. Yeah. You know, whatever your, whatever your fancy is, whatever specialty it is that you'd like to entertain, then you know, pick that and go with that. Because then you become the the subject matter expert in that particular niche, right? And when someone needs that, they're gonna come to you, uh, other people, other travel agents to say, well, you know, I don't book a whole lot at Disney, but I know someone who does. Yeah. You know, and they'll pass your name and vice versa. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So and do you bring people like can you develop a team? Do you bring people under you?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. I was just gonna say, if if you're that type of person that always books travel for your family and friends, but you're not receiving financial benefits for it, come see me. Come see me. I can uh train you, help you to develop as a travel agent so you can start reaping the rewards of your time. Because honestly, you're not doing anything any different, yeah, but you know, just pay a registration fee, you know, up front, and then you have some monthly fees, and then that gives you access to all the training that you need. Yeah. I'll always be there to assist you with with planning or questions or whatever that that you have regarding the business. And yeah, I mean, and it's more than enough money out here for everybody to get some.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You know, I tell people there's no cap on success.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. None at all.
SPEAKER_02There's enough out here for all of us.
SPEAKER_00It really is.
SPEAKER_02Love it, love it. So if people want to book you, they want to work with you, where can they reach you at?
SPEAKER_00Uh, on my socials, Facebook and Instagram, living your bucket list travel.
SPEAKER_02Nice, nice, good stuff. Yep. Appreciate you being here today, buddy.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, Stephen. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, no problem at all. And we'll see you guys on the next episode.