60. Helping Students Plan for the Future with Sonia Cacique and Freddy Cruz

As we bid farewell to the year, join me, Sonia Cacique, for a reflection on the trials and triumphs of college and career readiness. With the insightful Freddy Cruz from the Cruz through HTX Podcast by my side, we unravel the complexities that students, parents, and educators face in forging successful paths. We lay out the importance of dialogue within families, shed light on the impact of stress, and explore ways to solidify the bonds that will sustain us through life’s pivotal transitions. Empowering students with confidence and the right tools is my mission, and this conversation will bring you insight to navigate the journey ahead.

In our engaging discussion, we talk about:

• Dealing with rejection
• The importance of networking with your classmates
• The SAT, as it relates to whether or not it helps to take it when applying to an SAT optional school

We anchor our dialogue in the three cornerstones of the podcast—career exploration, student narratives, and essential resources—while underscoring the crucial role of parents in connecting their children with early career opportunities. As we address the pressing issue of teen mental health, remember that worth is innate and not solely defined by academic or career success.

Your story, your challenges, and your triumphs are unique, and we're here to support you every step of the way—because when we share, we grow stronger together.

Episodes mentioned:

SAT vs ACT
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2036117/13570499

Suicide Prevention Episode
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2036117/14086238

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to the College and Career Ready podcast, your go-to resource for all things related to preparing our students for success in their college and career journey. My name is Sonia Casique and I will be your host and guide on this exciting journey toward the bright future. Our mission is simple to empower our parents and students by elevating their confidence and resourcefulness. We believe that you deserve all the tools and support necessary to open the doors to endless possibilities of success and, with our community, you don't have to do this alone, so come with me and let's get started. Can you believe it? We're already just a week away from starting a new year. What a joy and what a ride this past year has been. We have grown together over the past year and I have learned so much. My friend and I'm really looking forward to what the new year has for all of us. This is our last episode of 2023, and I'm super excited.

Speaker 1: 1:07

To wrap up our last episode of 2023,. I am going to be sharing with you an episode where I was interviewed by Freddie Gruse with Cruise through HTX Podcast, a local Houston Texas podcast. So if you have not checked it out, make sure you tune in to Cruise through HTX, found on all podcast platforms. I really enjoyed my chat with Freddie and wanted to share it with you all. I provided Freddie with insightful information and helpful tips for parents, students and educators, so I thought this was the perfect episode to share with you. But before I share that episode, I wanted to let everyone know about what is coming for 2024 and college and career ready podcasts for parents, students and educators. My goal is to continue exploring together the college and career ready journey together. My core values are community service and family, and I think you can see that reflected in all of our episodes. So in 2024, I will continue to provide episodes that will build student confidence as they start preparing for college and their career plans through career exploration, learning about different careers, professions and helping them network, which is something that I don't think is spoken enough of. So continue to listen and be enlightened by our grass and episodes that I provide for you so you can learn how to build your confidence.

Speaker 1: 2:53

This year, I want to focus on more topics that really help parents and students start having more open communication within their homes. Because, guess what? The college and career ready journey can be exciting, but it does cause a lot of stress, anxiety and, instead of building a connecting relationship with your child, it actually causes a little bit of separation and non-easiness and stressfulness. Through these topics, I want children and parents to start building a stronger bond, because guess what you need to enjoy this journey? These will be your last weeks or months before your child starts transitioning into young adulthood and, instead of arguing about future career plans, it should be a time of bonding and really having open communication within the home and to really prepare them for this huge transition and next season of their life. I will continue to provide resources, tools and tips that I find out in our community, with other organizations or guests, so we can make this transition easier, more affordable and providing you a blueprint towards career success.

Speaker 1: 4:13

I love working one-on-one with my student clients, helping them rediscover who they truly are by building their confidence while creating clarity in their journey, goals and aspirations, and that will continue to be my goal with all of you as well. I work with students of all ages, beginning in ninth grade up to college, and if you are interested in learning more about my signature Discover you to Success one-on-one coaching program, then email me and let's have a chat. My email address is info at collegecareerreadyorg, or we also have a link on the show notes where you can have a free 15-minute call with me. I can't wait to continue to serve my clients in 2024.

Speaker 1: 5:04

I am looking forward to continue to have open conversations with you about building your student confidence, opening the doors for more parent and student communication, helping build your network and community, while also providing you with the resources you need to prepare you and your child for college and their future career plans. Thank you again, sweet friend, for being part of this journey. I can't wait for 2024. Keep sending me your topics of interest because, remember, this podcast is yours. And, without further ado, here is today's episode.

Speaker 2: 6:07

You can check her out at College and Career Ready podcast, wherever you get your favorite podcasts, and on the web at collegecareerreadyorg. During this episode, we are going to dive into guiding our kids through rejection, the importance of networking at school with your peers, and the SAT as it relates to whether or not high schoolers need to take it when applying to a school. That is SAT optional. If you enjoyed this episode, please share with your family and friends and subscribe to the newsletter at cruisethroughhtxcom.

Speaker 1: 6:44

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Speaker 2: 6:55

My name is Freddie and it's time to cruise through HTX. What is the biggest challenge Houston area parents, teens and young adults face when planning for the future?

Speaker 1: 7:08

Oh, my goodness, that is a great question. So what I've seen is three big things. The first one is what career am I going to pursue? What interests me, like? I actually attended a college fair this week and I would say about 80% of seniors walking in front of my booth had no idea what career they wanted to pursue. So that's the number one. Number two once they do decide what career it's like, where do I go, which college should I select? And that's a whole another exploration phase. And then the third and the most important, is how am I going to get there? So, once they narrow down the college selection, the biggest question is how am I going to get there and how much is it going to cost me to get there? So I think those are the three big challenges in the whole college and career journey and that's one of the things that really prompted me to start this for the community.

Speaker 2: 8:09

How much friction do you find in your line of work between parents and particularly high school seniors, when it comes to well, Sonia, you're going to be a doctor because our family comes from a line of physicians and I will have nothing less than you going to blah, blah, blah, Ivy League school. So how much friction do you see like that?

Speaker 1: 8:33

I do see a lot of that, but I think a lot of adults nowadays we're seeing a lot of pivots and a lot of adults really trying to follow passion, interest, their gifts and talents. I mean we all have unique skills that sometimes the feel that we're in is just not fit for the skills that we have. So we see a lot of that. That's another reason that I'm starting this early on, so we can start the conversation early. So through the podcast I have guests who are sharing their career journey in something that they are loving, they're passionate about and that they're successful as well. So it kind of flips the narrative for the parent listening. It makes them see the career from a different perspective, even seeing successful people in careers that they might have not thought of before. And that's one of the big things that I want to help with. I want to help parents just broaden their experience so far with a career and really finding something that aligns with who the student is as a person. So let me give a little bit of backstory.

Speaker 1: 9:45

This is where another reason why my passion is so great I have a 10-year-old twins, the boy girl. They were born one minute apart and if I was to sit and say you're both going to pursue the same career. I would be making a huge mistake, because, let me tell you, they are night and day. They are completely different. They were raised by the same parents, born one minute apart, yet they have unique skills and abilities. That's just tailored to who they are, and so that's the conversation I want to be having with parents.

Speaker 1: 10:18

I really want to open the eyes to parents and students to other career opportunities out there. More than where you go is what you do in the university that you're going to, the networking, the community, the mentorship, the internships. My greatest fear is seeing a college graduate walking the stage, getting their degree, have made no connections at all and they're looking for a job and they can't find a job and they're like why? And to a four-year university, because I thought this is going to be the way I was going to be successful, and they have nowhere to look for an opportunity other than going into the thousands and thousands of applicants online, going to many positions that are just bombarded with resumes, and so that's another thing that we want to have the conversation with parents about.

Speaker 2: 11:11

Yeah, and it's a strange kind of dynamic to wrestle, because when you have a student that's in college, they're obviously studying really hard, depending on what the major is. So if you're spending a lot of your non-class time studying, that leaves less time for networking. And well you know, as a parent, I'm going to be like, yeah, more studying and less partying, even though I kind of party a little hard, but you're right about the networking thing and building relationships, and so it's all about finding that balance. How do you help parents and kids navigate that?

Speaker 1: 11:54

So one thing that's easily overlooked is a shadowing experience. Being someone to say, hey, I'm interested in the career that you're in. Can I just come for three or four hours just one day and just shadow you? That's one opportunity that's easily overlooked. Free, Most I would say a good portion of those being reached will probably say yes, even if it's just an hour or two. Now, with the internet and so many opportunities via Zoom, it can even be a 15-minute call. You know, just a Zoom meeting.

Speaker 1: 12:31

I just want to ask you questions about your career and I really train students to ask the difficult questions like what is it about your career that you don't really like as much? And we always focus on the positive and we create this vision for these students that this job is perfect in all areas. And when we really start having those conversations where we say you know, what is it that you don't like about your career, what's a little bit more difficult and what skills do you have that make you good for this profession? That's something that I really want students to be asking, because just on a book or reading, I might be like, oh yes, that's what I want to do, but then, as they start describing the skills I'm like.

Speaker 1: 13:17

Wait, I'm not a people person. That might not be a good fit for me. That's just an example. So that's easy ways. We have internet, Indeed, it's a great place to go and just really start networking, even online. And then also and I know this is a little bit hard with our disgeneration of students, but really having communication with your own student body, the classmates in there. You never know who's going to be the next creator of the next big company. You want to maintain those relationships, and it also involves really connecting with the people who you are going to school with in the field that you're going in.

Speaker 2: 14:00

Yes, yes, yes and yes. And that whole thing about asking the tough questions of somebody about what they don't like about their career is gold, because it will help them understand that well, you know, it's going to be cool to be I don't know let me just throw out his term a veterinarian or a plumber or an electrical engineer. It just sounds amazing, right to be an electrical engineer and do all these really cool things. But the fact of the matter is so much of what we do professionally, no matter what line of work, involves routine, involves doing boring stuff, involves late nights, sometimes early mornings, putting out fires, sending dreaded emails, the accidental reply all that might happen on occasion not speaking from personal experience, but younger people have to realize that you know high school and, in some instances, college or trade school. Just because you're graduating and getting over one hurdle doesn't mean that they're not going to be anymore.

Speaker 1: 15:08

Yeah, absolutely, and it's a job that they're going to be doing Now I say, let's just say for a good period of their life. And I say that because we see a lot of people, you know, maybe they work for a company as a plumber, and then they decide they want to, you know, start their own company. There's many career paths within the same line, but it's always good for them to know that they will be spending a good portion of their day doing their job, and so they do have to understand that there's really good things and then there's some things that might not be as fun. Not to push them away, it's just for them to have a more of a clearer vision of what that is. And then the other thing is salary expectations. Is having a good idea, a broad good idea as far as what that is going to look like, because I won't name particular schools or careers, but if your investment on your career is way more than what you're ever going to be paid in three to five years, I don't know if that's a good combination there.

Speaker 1: 16:11

Health.

Speaker 2: 16:12

Humanities major. I'll say it we're not going to mention anybody.

Speaker 1: 16:18

Yeah, so you know, really look at the return on investment in regards to college education.

Speaker 2: 16:23

Yeah, you really hit the nail on the head with that. But I want to stick with colleges and universities, because there's always going to be the time when you've got a student that's applying to multiple schools that are interested in this university in Texas, that university in Louisiana, one in on the West Coast and it's their top three. And, oh my gosh, I know I can get one out of the three major schools that I'm applying to and then they don't get accepted into any of them. So how do you help kids through getting rejected by something like this?

Speaker 1: 17:00

Yeah. So rejection is something that we hope they're comfortable with early on in their career, because we will receive rejection in many aspects of our life. Tell me about it, you know, even just I don't know if you're in customer service and you're talking to a customer and you're like literally getting rejected every day. So let's get comfortable with rejection. I always say there's no failures, there's always a learning opportunity, and so when you do not get accepted to a university, there's always a reason behind it. And you know, we really want again to embrace the student and what they can do at any university, and that is again going back to using the resources that are at the university for really connecting with people in the field and getting them to where they want to be. So if they're going let's say they're not going to their top university, there are still things that they have control of, right. So once they're at the university that they're going to, then one they can decide to stay there. They can always transfer. Okay, there's always an opportunity to transfer later.

Speaker 1: 18:14

But I've seen sometimes that even students that are considering to transfer, they're like, oh you know, I kind of just really like the school and they get acclimated, but again, it's what they can do outside and within the university itself. That's really going to build that network. And for my parents I would say, if you can find people in the field, ask, you know, on Facebook, right with your friend community. Say, I have my child is interested in occupational therapy, you know, does anybody know anyone? Let's build those connections early so then that student is not just thinking about the school but they're thinking about their career more in a long term perspective. And so yeah, so always always think about that. And I want to add, because I always love students who are like I want to go to X university and it's like great, what career do you want to pursue? And it's like, no, I just, I just really want to go to that university, you know.

Speaker 2: 19:07

And so, talking about my daughter, I want to go to this UCSB because it's going to be on the beach and I can't wait. I'm like what? Thankfully, we talked about that.

Speaker 1: 19:17

Oh, yay, but yeah, you know it's really having those conversations. So one thing that we do on the podcast is we have three pillars in the podcast. One of them is a career exploration, and we do that through career spotlights. So we we invite people who are which, by the way, if anybody's listening and you're, like, passionate about what you're doing and you really want to share your career journey, please contact me. But we have career spotlight episodes. We have student spotlight episodes. We actually bring current students in college that are really rocking it or that might have had a difficulty, maybe had obstacles or challenges, to get there. Get there, there, so we get them to share their journey with our students. And then we have just the general resources for parents and students, and that's just providing resources as far as, like I said, how do I get there? How can I get there faster or smarter or, you know, more financially doable or economical for our family, and so you know, that's that's one of the things that we like talking about.

Speaker 2: 20:19

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Speaker 1: 22:36

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Speaker 2: 22:40

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Let's talk about your breast during the month of October. To find out ways to help the Rose, visit our website at TheRoseorg. Can we talk about the SAT and whether or not it's really all that important to to take when you're applying to an SAT optional school which, by the way, I learned this year that they're SAT optional schools? I'm like what?

Speaker 1: 23:41

Okay, yeah, so listen, I'm a coach, so I will tell you the good things about things and then I'll let parents make their decision on this one. But I will say. I will say that with the SAT there are some scholarships that are tied to SAT scores Got you, that's something to consider.

Speaker 1: 23:59

Okay, so that's something to consider. There are some scholarships, even within the institution itself. That's really closely related to the SAT scores. I have seen a couple of graphs and tables that show that. Even on the test optional schools and I can't I don't have percentage exactly, but parents can definitely Google this there are. From the students that are accepted, the majority are those who provided SAT scores. Oh, okay, so take a look at that Again. Even on the test optional, I'm not saying that students who do not take SAT scores don't get accepted. I'm just saying that from those that were accepted, the majority, I can confidently say that the majority had SAT scores. We do, we do have. I do have an episode where we talk about SAT versus ACT because one test kind of favors another student more than the other. They are both the same as far as the way the universities look at them. But there are also ways for students to learn that Sometimes it's just testing strategies.

Speaker 1: 25:08

So I'll give you a really good example my son. He used to suffer from test anxiety and test preparation and he really struggled. We didn't realize that until after the hold the drum roll, start testing. So it wasn't until after the start testing. That I'm like. Trust me, I'm all about having a well-rounded child and really having them enjoy their education rather than focusing on a score. But looking at his start testing results me as a parent I just know that wasn't a reflection of who he was.

Speaker 1: 25:49

So in that process and this was early on this was like I don't know second grade, third grade that I realized wait a second, this is an issue because he hasn't developed skills to take this test. So upon talking to my son, his name is Sebastian upon talking to Sebastian, he's like mom, it's just. When somebody crinkles their paper, I get distracted, and when I hear every little sound, it just it causes me to not focus. I was like, oh okay. So we had a conversation with the school counselor and, long story short, the next start exam that he took completely mastered it after he used some of those skills. So I say this not to discourage parents from SATs. Just know that there are ways that your child can improve. You know, if that's something that they wanna consider in their college application.

Speaker 2: 26:43

I love that you all really sat back and analyzed why your kid didn't do good and he was able to talk his way through it. I mean that is so awesome, because sometimes, at least it seems to me that back in the day especially, it was oh well, you did, you made this grade. Well, how dare you? You failed and, of course, as a kid, when you grow up and you hear you failed, automatically you're a failure and you might not use those words to describe yourself specifically, but you certainly feel like garbage if all you see is that you did terrible on a test. And I'll tell you my SAT was subpar and that's putting it lightly. But this is all great insight, that it helps to take the SAT. That's really good stuff. I had no idea.

Speaker 1: 27:47

Yeah, well, and I always tell my children a grade is not a reflection of who they are and whether or not they're gonna be successful. In whatever way they define success because that's even we'll take it with a grand assault success means different for everybody, but for them they're not a reflection of their grade. What I do say is it lets us know where you're at and where you can continue to improve. So what we do, or what I try to do, is really see growth rather than how they compare to other students. So we really try to look at growth for them. And again, really this is from all my parents out there If we can try, before we start talking about maybe a failure or a grade, that we really focus on their strengths and abilities, because I mean, not everybody's gonna be a good reader. I mean, I don't know about you, but even us as an adult, some adults struggle with finances. This is math, this is not their thing, and we forget that. Hold on, hold on. Are you telling them me?

Speaker 2: 29:00

Four times to finally get to seeing GulaVage Finance. But you know I got there.

Speaker 1: 29:05

Hey, listen, but look at where you're at. And that's what we try to remind parents and unfortunately I don't know if I won't say if it's intentional or unintentional, but let's say unintentionally, that's what they're listening, that's what they're hearing the students nowadays they're hearing I need to be good at everything and that's not even realistic, even for us as adults.

Speaker 2: 29:31

So really focusing on your strengths? Oh, I'm telling you about it. Yeah, that's. The whole thing is that when you have kids whose brains are literally as much as I hate using the word literally, they're literally not fully developed until they're mid-20s. Oh my God, that prefrontal cortex, and don't get me started on contact sports, but in this case we're talking about education. So, yeah, you're right, they're not equipped to deal with setbacks, and so it seems, at least as a dad, as a parent, it seems to me to be more than a dad, but to also be a coach as well, to coach them through and be like hey, well, you know what?

Speaker 2: 30:18

Yeah, you made a D, but what are you making? What were you making your other grades? Oh, well, I made this, this and this, this. Okay, well, you know what? All right, well, what did you make last six weeks, or last nine weeks, or whatever it is these days? Well, I made a 95. Okay, so does that mean you're on the trajectory to kick ass this semester? Well, yeah, okay. Well then, don't sweat it, it's a D.

Speaker 1: 30:47

One a grade not even was it a major or minor grade?

Speaker 2: 30:51

Minor grade, but still. Nah, okay, we mess up.

Speaker 1: 30:55

No, and we didn't even touch on this subject because that can be a whole hour episode.

Speaker 1: 31:02

But with teen depression, anxiety, suicide and we will be having that conversation in our podcast soon but with all of these mental issues or things that our students are encountering, the pressure is the, you know, some parents might be like well, no, but here at the house maybe we don't pressure them as much.

Speaker 1: 31:25

You know, yes, but there's a lot of outside pressure in social media, unintentionally or unintentionally sometimes, you know they're receiving these messages and those are the things that we do not have control of. What we do have control of is how we can teach them to take those messages and really put truth between everything that they hear, that they are worthy as a human being, as a person, already and I say that a lot because we have a lot of students who are going to get a degree or a career because they're trying to get self-worth in the process or trying to get approval, and they're already worthy as a human being as they are and if we can really really let our students know that, just kind of relieve a little bit that pressure, and things will work out in the end.

Speaker 1: 32:17

They just got to keep keep striving, keep going, keep moving forward. You know, if you're, if you're, if it's in your vision to go to college, go to college. Things will get figured out in its process. You don't have to have all the answers figured out okay Trust me, most people don't but at least have a path in mind that, as you're going through you keep advancing each step of the way.

Speaker 2: 32:43

Okay, I want to wrap up the conversation with a favorite success story of yours that maybe you thought, wow, I'm pretty good at what I do. I don't know if this is going to happen, but then it turned out rainbows and unicorns and you're like, yes, I did it.

Speaker 1: 33:03

Wow, okay. So I can definitely say that one of the big moments in my life and this has been recent, so I am an educated, I've been an education on my life and I actually thought I was going to be an educator and just pretty much you know, stay being a teacher. I had the wonderful opportunity, through a program to actually continue my studies, to get my master's degree and I did a master's in counseling and in my vision was to use my school counseling I am a certified school counselor to use my education, to use my experience that I've had to really help students get to that college and career ready journey. Unfortunately, right now in the school system, if I was to work for a school, it's really hard to really have that one-on-one with parents and students because at the school we're just talking to the students primarily.

Speaker 1: 34:09

So yeah, so if for many years I had this vision of this podcast and I didn't know what it would really entail, I just knew that there was a need for resources for parents and students to come the journey together and a year ago I was like you know what, I'm just going to do it and now, looking back, I'm so happy I did. It's really brought a community of people, of parents and students, to really have open conversations, the ones you and I are having and I'm really excited about this journey and that's why I share about your career can take many, many turns, but as long as you have found, you know, your home, which mine has been education it can take many, many different routes and right now I'm happy where I'm at today. I'm really excited to have this opportunity to be interviewing with you and telling you about my passion and really bringing that to a wider community so everybody can have the same resources available to them. And it's through simple, you know, listening to a podcast while you're driving your kids to and from school.

Speaker 2: 35:21

So I'm really excited about that. Yeah, that is great. Well, congratulations on that. And let me tell you, 50 episodes is huge, because this is something that my buddy, my buddy George, and I were talking about in a previous episode that 90% of podcasters don't make it past episode three, and of the remaining 10%, 90% of them don't make it past episode 20. So you know? Yeah, you are in the elite group.

Speaker 1: 35:54

Oh well, thank you, thank you, thank you. I, you know I do it as a passion and I and I used to it's funny because I used to share with very few people but I would say I have this vision and I just don't know how I can get there. And it wasn't necessarily podcasting, I just I knew I wanted to do college and career coaching. I just had a vision. I didn't know how to really really put it and and I've been a podcast fan for many, many years and I was like, okay, let's do it through a podcast.

Speaker 1: 36:23

And against all fears, against all, I mean, I didn't know any other podcaster and thankfully I knew one podcaster who were actually a friend, who put on her Facebook I'm going to launch my podcast. I was like, okay, that is a connection I literally sent her. At the end I was like I haven't seen you in a while. Can we meet for lunch? Tell me how you're doing it? And that's what I love doing on this end is providing that to parents and students, for them to have that one contact of a field of interest, because that's all it takes for you to, for you to see validation that it's possible, and then you can do it too.

Speaker 2: 36:59

All it takes is just one connection, and who would have thought Facebook is actually useful? Yes, I know right.

Speaker 1: 37:09

Listen, if you're in my Facebook group, that's my private Facebook group, but if you're in my Facebook group, it's only because you're sharing words of wisdom are really cool stuff, because if you're like a Debbie Downer, you're probably not in there, so I'm only getting good stuff.

Speaker 2: 37:24

Love it, Okay, so y'all please check out Sonia. Her podcast is college and career ready and then her website is collegecareerreadyorg. Collegecareerreadyorg. Thank you so much for coming by the podcast today.

Speaker 1: 37:42

Thank you, freddie. It was a pleasure being here and hopefully we'll get to do this again another time. Hey friend, I hope you enjoyed this interview. I'd love to hear from you and let me know what was your greatest takeaway. You can reach me at info at collegecareerreadyorg. Thank you for joining us, sweet friend, and, as always, stay well, be present and enjoy the journey. I'll talk to you next week. Hi friend, thank you for listening in. If you enjoyed this episode, you would mean so much to me. If you share it with a friend, share it with them right now or, even better, Tag me so I can personally thank you for helping us build our community. I'm so thankful for each and every one of you. Let's keep in touch and I'll talk to you soon. Adios.