Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Pioli & Milan's Masterclass In Their Comeback Win Over Udinese Amidst Racism Scourge
Please celebrate with us as AC Milan matches on with another breathtaking comeback against Udinese in the Italian championship making it 6 games unbeaten with 5 wins and a draw. But our victory lap is bittersweet as we confront the persistent specter of racism that tarnished the celebration. Our latest episode takes an unflinching look at the reprehensible racial abuse directed at Mike Maignan during a match, urging a collective call to action for a game free from discrimination. We also lift the veil on Stefano Pioli's managerial mastery, which has steered the Rossoneri's renaissance, positioning them once again as the scudetto contenders.
Soccer enthusiasts, buckle up as we dissect the tactical intricacies that characterize AC Milan's gameplay. From Coppa Italia's heartbreak to triumph against Roma, we scrutinize the chess-like maneuvers of Pioli, including Yassin Adli's increasing influence in the midfield.
Wrapping up the discussion, we muse over the whispers of the transfer market, pondering the factors behind its sluggish tempo. The championship race is heating up, and we look hard at AC Milan's prospects as they chase leaders Inter Milan and a resurgent Juventus. Gratitude pours out for our dedicated listeners who have stood by us, your passion for the beautiful game only deepens our weekly conversations. Remember, the saga continues next Sunday when our passion for football and AC Milan burns ever brighter.
The Rossoneri Renaissance is complete After 11 years.
Speaker 2:Once again, milan are the champions of Italy. It's they who wear the crown for the 2021-22 season. Hello everyone, this is David and Chin. Talk, milan, we are back again, chin. What's up, bro? How you doing.
Speaker 1:I'm good, dave, nice to have you on the chat. First of all, congratulations to you and your family. Big shout out to Blessing. I was tempted to call in him that I would regret the rest of my life. But big congratulations to you guys on the addition to your family. I'm very happy for you guys.
Speaker 2:Thank you, chin, thank you, and you know what? It's also my birthday weekend too, right? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like when do you stop celebrating by this day? Wow, you have a daughter coming in and you're worried about your birthday. There's a new life in there. Man, like celebrate a new life. But anyway, happy birthday to you as well, dave. So there, anyway. Does Piolli share this birthday?
Speaker 2:Well, he gave me the best present, though. That's the 10, right, the beautiful comeback. You know that was a good one. Anyways, guys, welcome back again to the Vengeance Talk, milan, we're returning. After the last time women was probably before the Atlanta game and yeah, I would predict the lineup and stuff, right. Then we lost that game during the midweek ball in between.
Speaker 1:We lost that game out of the Coppa Italia.
Speaker 2:Whatever, but anyways, before we even go ahead, I just want to quickly just shine the light on what happened at Indonesia yesterday between Indonesia and Milan, where there was this sort of racist chance on Magic Mike Manian. That's the very. It's so funny. It's just annoying that even in 2020, before, where there's cameras everywhere, there's many information out there to even enlighten some people, they still like backward and with their thinking and stuff. It's just a point in chain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me, I think it's one of those things where, since I've been watching football in Italy, in Europe, most part of Europe, it's almost always been the same thing. We talk about it, we say, well, it's 2020, we wear patches, we say end racism and no end racism. The reality of it is that as a continent, I think most of Europe are still a little backwards with their ideologies around race. You can see that through the political landscape of things that they are voting for and the way they behave around people, even Mike. Think of Mike Manian as an example. He grew up in France, he's lived in Europe all his life. He played for the French national team. He's as European as they get, and yet all they see is still a person of different shade of color. So to me, it's just really disappointing.
Speaker 1:If they can openly do that to Mike Manian, who is one of the nicer guys that I've seen. You know what I mean. He doesn't have the bad idea. That's his role model, the guy's role model. You know what I mean Is it a bad idea and they openly do that to him?
Speaker 1:Vinnie goes back and forth with the fans in Spain and it's the same thing, while Vinnie taunts people, so therefore they can racially abuse. Vinnie, I know I have always been one to say there is no room for racism. If it taunts somebody, taunt me back. Don't then throw in racial discrimination as an excuse for taunting Right? The argument people make is well, this is part of the game they're trying to get into his head. And he considered right away after the whole rubbish and it's like, oh, they got into his head. But the reality is, if that's how you think you need to get into someone's head, you should need to rethink the whole thing we're doing here with this whole sport Right? The other part that I need to mention is if you can racially abuse Mike Minyan openly and a group of people very publicly they are together, people's parents, people's fathers, brothers, relatives of bosses at work, friends.
Speaker 1:I racially abusing one person because of his sport Right, just to get an edge, or whatever they call it, tells you what they do in their secrets, in their private time, right? Imagine if you weren't Mike Minyan, as powerful as Mike Minyan, and you were, say, chen, who works at one bakery. For a guy who's one of those guys, what would happen to you? So to me, as a person of color as myself. It's very painful to watch. It's very, very demoralizing to watch To see that in 2024, people still behave this way towards other people. So anyways, horrible, horrible thing I'm sure we'll talk more about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, definitely. But I think Mike Minyan made a bold statement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he made a bold statement, but I just said that he actually still ended up going back there and continuing the game. Like I said, if it was me, I probably would have just went and gone home.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, I'm being honest, that's just me. You remember? Do you remember? Mike Minyan is a leader. All he wanted to do was send a message.
Speaker 1:Do you remember Kevin Boateng? Yeah, do you remember? The same thing happened to him, right? What did he do? Ballotelli gets the same thing all the time, right? So I think Boateng didn't come back. He just left the field and never came back. Yeah, I think so, but anyways.
Speaker 2:That's just what happened yesterday. I mean, aside the negative thing that happened yesterday, I think Milan has been flying lately in the league, which has been my. I think he's going to be the next talking point and when it comes to purely some faith in the future at Milan, I guess. But all I can say is the last few games, the last six games, he's been, you know, he's been, he's been bossing it basically, and even when Milan comes to face challenges, right, he always finds a way to figure it out.
Speaker 2:My only problem with purely Chinese, I don't know, but with that guy and Corkman, but he's just surprised, I don't know, I don't know what I can say, to be honest, because that Atlanta game, right, I just had a feeling that something was going to happen and it's not going to be that feeble, but, to be honest, I think the referee ruined the game. However, though, we also played the part as well, and I know what I wanted to do reaction on the Atlantic. We only have time to do, right. So what's the thought on the game? To be honest? I mean, you watch the game, so what was your?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have no thoughts Because, basically, like, the interesting thing is Milan under Stefan O'Peole. My conclusion is that they never learn. Okay, so when you watch that game, the first half of the game or so, milan, where it looked like Milan were bossing the game, we were pressing Atlanta, atlanta were just parking the bus, which is not normal. But you see, as the game progressed they came out Because, to be honest with you, it's almost like it just gave me vibes of Milan playing InterMess Milan, where it's like one team. You know, they know what they want to accomplish right, and this is kind of it's a common thread. It's a common thing with Milan and Cup games and whatever I like.
Speaker 1:I keep saying the only time I've actually seen Milan do a great job with the Cup tie is versus Tottenham, ospo and Napoli. I will repeat that until this. Other than that, we just come and play very careless football, very open football, Like we're playing a league game against the bottom team side, which we all, which you do the same way. It doesn't matter what we play, and that's not how you actually get yourself to win trophies Like I'm not Even in as much as I'm big on, you need to play a structural style of football and blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1:But I believe that when you get to Cup ties, you have to be very careful how you approach this. You have to be very, very tactically adequate In order for you to get past those Cup ties, because they are tricky, because you know it's a one-off game. You know what I mean. It's a one-off game where everything is on the line. On the league game you can draw points and then you have to. There are seven more opportunities to pick up the point. So, purely, if you look at his records with Cups, it has nothing. There's nothing. Literally, there's nothing to write him about. Like it's not even like he's making it to the finals and losing.
Speaker 2:Think about it, he's not even getting to the finals. Let me ask you this question, though what do you think he did wrong in that game? What?
Speaker 1:I think he did wrong is just generally what he has always done wrong when it comes to the Cup ties. He comes in very open, sometimes too open. You have to be a little bit more strategic. Some of these things. Milan came attacking, attacking Like we were attacking. From the beginning of that game you could see it almost as though we forget that we're playing against Atalanta. That again, they are not that bad of a team. So to me it's just you have to be almost cautious with some of your so okay, not to be like the guy that would go get into. I don't want to jump into the Udinese game, but when you watch a similar player I've said it multiple times the way we play is a very open-ended style of football. It's a very aggressive game, everybody high tempo. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:I told you it's very entertaining. Oh yeah, but then guess what? Then you and I can sit here all the time and say, purely, has gone through. He has had four opportunities in Coppa Italia and he has lost all in, like you know what I mean. He has had how many? Literally Coppa Italia, super Coppa, whatever Coppa, it doesn't matter, as long as there's a Coppa at the end of the name, he's probably going to find a way to not win it right. So the IS has gone in a Coppa at Milan. I can think of his what's he called His UEFA Champions League, basically.
Speaker 2:Making it to the semifinal of the season. Remember Of what Coppa Italia Against when we lost against Juventus. Remember that game that Rebić got recorded.
Speaker 1:Okay, so semifinals, okay, good. So anyways, the long and short is yeah, that's just it. He doesn't adjust for these games and he doesn't understand that it's a one-off game and he has to make one or two adjustments. Slow the tempo down a little bit, try not to be too open and try not to expose your players too much. But yeah, we're out of the Coppa, we're out of the Coppa.
Speaker 2:we probably won't win the league, However, however, however, I think he was a very good bounce back against Roma.
Speaker 1:Well, he owns Roma, though I don't think he's lost to Roma, like since he has been at Milan, Like it's funny because the only time I can.
Speaker 2:He hasn't lost to.
Speaker 1:Moriu actually. Oh, okay, well, former Roma coach. So the I think the only thing I can remember of Roma ever doing. The only damage Roma did to Milan was in 2023, January or so, when we were winning two nothing comfortably. Oh yeah, yeah, the Franks foul again. He committed a foul. He did not kill anybody, he just committed a foul. So, anyway, the long and short story is that, yeah, that was the only time I can think in terms of negative results versus Roma other than that.
Speaker 2:Well, I think he purely has mastered Roma.
Speaker 2:Regardless, it was a very good game.
Speaker 2:It was very I love the way he organized it team so much, which kind of gave Yassin Adli a defined role, and I'm so proud that Adli is actually getting his time now.
Speaker 2:He's getting his opportunities and is taking it very well, to be honest, even though I see some sort of slacks here and there when it comes to the defensive phase, to be honest. But how do you think what is the most value that you appreciate from Adli as a midfielder in this purely steam, do you like, for example, in terms of both courage, because this is it here. When you see Adli and TJ playing right along with each other, they are two different players, which I kind of like. However, one thing that I'm noticing is because of I should actually less support that they're getting from Love to Stik in the defensive phase. I'm not sure if you notice it right, it cannot leave them exposed a little bit. If you look at the goal that we considered again against them we're going to talk about it later but how do you see a defensive strength with Adli playing in midfield?
Speaker 1:The same as it has always been, with Adli playing in midfield. Watching Adli play in midfield from Milan is almost like watching Tonali play in midfield from Milan. The only difference is Adli is a little bit more. He's better on the ball in terms of moving the ball around than Tonali was. Tonali is more like energy run around, wins on tackle press and then long passes. Adli keeps the ball moving. That's something that I value a lot. It's the ability to keep possession.
Speaker 1:For a team like Milan, it's a very key thing to have when we talk about defensive ratings. Unless you're going to have a person like Kruinic, who you would tell to not do anything else other than just stand there and act as an extra centre-back and help you break up defensive. You're not going to get that balance with the way Milan plays. Why do I say that? I've said this. The key word I've used multiple times over the past few weeks when we talk is about control. When you attack, you cannot attack, no matter who you are playing with. You cannot attack in a manner that leaves people literally too high up and then now they break and then the midfield is open. It doesn't matter who you put there. We saw the same issue with Tonali and Benase in midfield, but we're not honest to do it.
Speaker 2:It's just Roma, right, chen. I feel like Adli defended, though, because he was more of the fifth guy in the defence and he was striking back right down to the box To box six. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's the fact of Roma, though.
Speaker 2:Right, but my concern is again, this is a key I think this him is. I think his defensive contribution right Kind of like has a lot to do with consistency. Do you agree on that? What consistency? In what sense? Sorry, ok. So for example, the way he played against Roma was from the way he played against.
Speaker 1:Udinese. That's what I said. But there are two different teams, right, because Udinese, like, every time you play them, you know what they're going to do. They're a very high energy counter attacking team that have a lot of strength in midfield, literally. So Roma, on the other hand, like I don't think they had Roma, had Peredes, christante and who was the other guy in midfield. This is not your Roma of before, with, like Matich and those guys that would do those in midfield.
Speaker 1:If Milan play Inter Milan tomorrow, the same complaint you had about Udinese you have about Adley again, because it's about the quality of the personality or style of play of that team, right. So what I'm getting at is it's easy to say, oh yeah, you had a good game against Roma because Roma doesn't have the midfield energy, right, like it seemed like Udinese actually does. Every time we play them, it's the same thing. They have a lot of energy in the middle and in the upfront, right. So that then makes you look bad, literally, as soon as you watch them in the game, as soon as you lose possession, it's like they just counter you right away with a lot of energy. That's not Roma. Roma Peredes is not going to do that, neither would Christante do that. So who is the guy that is going to run him through in the middle? So he has time to recover and then he looks like he's part of them because they're all on the same frequency in terms of their pace and strength, so, anyway. So that's why I said it's about the team you play and, secondly, I always tell you that two teams play football. It's not one team, right? So there's Milan trying to do Milan teams and then there's the opponent trying to do whatever they need to do. So when your opponent knows what your weaknesses are, right, they can. If they are good and they have a good coach and they understand you, they can take advantage of that.
Speaker 1:If Roma, there's a reason Morino got fired. He didn't get fired just because he lost to Milan. He got fired because of the direction of the team and where they are going. I watched Roma play this past weekend and they looked very sharp against Hellas Verona, but again they almost threw that game away. Roma has been a very inconsistent team. The players are not 100% consistent. That goes down to some of the coaching and some of the players they have in terms of their ability and their ability to remain fit. What am I getting at? Roma and Ginesi are not the same. Roma and the people who played before Atalanta are not the same, so you can't compare Adley from those games to those games. Because he wasn't asked to do the same exact thing. I was watching him against Ginesi. He was running like a guy that was hungry, like he needed to eat. Everybody was just running past him. You can watch him. They just run past him like he wasn't existing. But he didn't have the chance to. He didn't need to do that against Roma, right? So anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2:I also want to talk about Dune and Andes right, right in the last few games.
Speaker 2:I think I need to really shine a spotlight on him because he's really been good and again, you see, when I say some certain things, chin, you always try to prove me wrong At some level.
Speaker 2:It comes to purely making certain decisions right, especially when he decided to move to Andes, to the centre-back position, right To pair with Simon Kia.
Speaker 2:I know he got a lot of criticism about it and, to be honest, maybe I agree to some point as to why some people criticize him, because he just says there are some certain games that Theo was really bad with his positioning and stuff. But I feel like he really did lead to a really huge favour in even just putting him to actually play at the centre-back at some point, because of the fact that this season or the end of last season, from the end of last season to some point in this season, right, I feel like Theo has been out of form and again I think the desire and all those energy is missing. Like you know, his form is not really consistent and stuff like that, but again he needed to have a shift of mindset and stuff For him playing at the centre-back. He helped him a little bit because he's really been in good form the last five to six games, and I can't even remember the last time I've seen Theo really being consistent like this. What's your thought on him?
Speaker 1:So here's what I'll tell you. I agree with you. Just giving him a different challenge allowed him to think a little differently, which can heighten his sense of focus, right, and that sense of focus is what he tells when he's at his best, is what you need from him, right, especially defensively defensive focus. So forcing him to play centre-back, he couldn't get away with just being aloof half the time, and you know, and yeah, so I think that has paid. Yeah, kind of re-energised. You can see that in his play.
Speaker 1:The only issue I personally had with playing Theo as a left-back as opposed to his left-wing position is the fact that Milan's play, style of play depended heavily on him helping in terms of attack. Right. It's similar to, it's not different than having Trent Alexander-Arnold right Theo, if you ask him to go and play centre-back, I'm sure he will stand there, he'll do an okay job, whatever he's bothered it. But you know what you lose you lose the ability of him helping you in terms of the attack. So to me, milan is not like an attacking firepower that you say, oh, we have a lot that we can give away one of our best attacking players right To go and keep him at the centre-back Meanwhile, you could actually end up throwing someone like Simic or I don't know Gabya is here now. You could end up throwing somebody there to do the job of centre-back and then allow Theo to actually do what you know. You really need him for Now.
Speaker 1:Luckily for Milan, I think he did so well that he had so much confidence that he actually influenced games, even as a centre-back, which is very hard to do. I remember the game he had to assist for Jovic, I think yeah, so yeah, that's good. But then again, now you watch him against Roma and then you realise why it is so important that you have him as a centre-back. You see what I'm getting at. You can't have one of your best. If you rank three Milan, three attacking players, three of them, he's probably that two or three in that ranking. No, I know.
Speaker 1:No, then you have him in a position that doesn't allow him to utilise that script. To me, that's not good. Watch a scene on Purely's comments.
Speaker 2:Purely mentioned. He said when he converted Theo Hernandez to centre-back right, he made a comment I think he's one of the games, probably before the Newcastle game. He said Theo has more, theo has given that balance that he wants and he's also an extra player in the attack for him to attack through the middle and stuff. And I've seen him make many moves as a centre-back. For example, he just cuts him through the middle and makes that regular Theo runs and stuff. Again, this is purely from an attacking perspective that he can have someone play as a centre-back but also give him that mobility to be able to attack. You know Purely an attack how it does stand, but anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry, let's just be frank. Your risk factor increases when you have your center back pushing too high up. Okay, because you know why. He's right in the middle. Right, it's basically right in the middle of the field. If you're a winger and you push high up and you get caught up right, the chances kind of are very limited because the attack is coming from the wing. If you actually go through the middle as a center back and you push too high up, then the gap in the middle, if someone doesn't shift and cover for you right Then the gap in the middle becomes too obvious. You know what I mean? Because if you think of the field as a full back, you only have one half of the field to contain, but if you're a center back, you literally are just almost like a glorified meat feeder. You're right in the middle, so as soon as you leave, the ball can just go over the top. The full back it's on the wing. You know, okay, what I'm saying is your risk factor goes up when you have an Sejurama was that year?
Speaker 1:Right, he wants to go forward, but if you look at that, you always run the risk of, well, he's leaving a lot of gap in behind. But that doesn't happen with a lot of full backs, because, guess what? It's only there's a byline and then there's like the other side, and then the center back can always shift and cover that side, or even the winger can always drop back and cover for you, right? So, anyway, the longer shot is he walked out, so, purely okay. He has gone back to playing what's it called left back position, which I think he should be playing because it allows him more freedom to run. He can go inside, he can go outside, he can go any direction. You're very limited as a center back trying to join the attack. Trust me, you don't want to do that often, because that those recoveries become more difficult for you. Anyway, the longer shot is Milana, where they are now Exactly. He's now playing left back.
Speaker 2:So that's yeah, which is good anyway, because obviously Gabya came back from Mr Villareal, right, and he's been, he's been good, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's been. Your boy Gabya is back and he's been good okay.
Speaker 2:One thing I noticed about him is his pace. His pace has changed completely. Like Gabya cannot run before, to be honest, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, maybe. So this is where like training regimen comes into play. Right, maybe in Spain, maybe the team he played for they worked on speed, increasing speed, and so on and so forth, because sometimes you always blame the players, forgetting that most times the players only get trained on what they're training the management team tells them to work on. Right, they have a fitness coach. If the fitness coach is not helping you this is why I sometimes I keep blaming management and the coaching staff for some of the injuries it's that you have to prepare these guys for what you expect from them. If you want Gabya to be a little faster, there's some training that you can actually do to players that will make them look fitter and faster. Right, and that's what he looks he looks fitter and faster.
Speaker 2:So do you agree? I don't think we need another centre-back in this window.
Speaker 1:I think, we do.
Speaker 2:Sorry, why do you think we do? Because in February? Well, because Tomori is going to come back in February.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the only problem is that we have Simic yeah, we have Gabya.
Speaker 2:We have Simic here. That's four. We're still waiting for yeah sorry, we're still waiting for.
Speaker 1:This is how. You did not need one at the beginning of the season. Now you call back Gabya halfway through the year. So let me explain to you Tomori will be back, but we don't know again how what Tomori will look like from a fitness perspective because, forget it, it took a KDB, came back from his own hamstring injury and then played two games and then went back for five months, right. So you can't rely on a guy who's coming back from muscular injury that he's going to be 100% fit. Secondly, we don't even know when we'll see Kallulu play football again. Same with what is the Malik Teow.
Speaker 2:No, no, Malik Teow is going to come back in March.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but March is. It's March today. March is my March. Do you know how many games we'll play Only March? Well, yeah, but again the same thing applies to him, because then the last thing to your not factor in is somehow in your mind you've forgotten the team you're talking about. Did you watch them play with the Nezzy Half the time? I was thinking they are going to enjoy half the players, literally.
Speaker 2:But Chien Simic is playing well. He's a good kid, so why?
Speaker 1:would you bring an example when you already have Gabya?
Speaker 2:Now Gabya is already putting that boy back in, which is fine yeah but it's not even about those two.
Speaker 1:It's about Simon Kia. There was a time Simon Kia fell down and he thought he actually left the pitch. The commentator said he left the pitch. Oh my God, we're worried for him, and Mitra was worried for him, and I saw him jog back on. So what do you think this is? You think this is about Gabya? It's about Simon Kia. You're relying on Simon Kia to hold you for the next two months, really, okay, cool. So to me, transfer Window is open. I think Milan should try and get themselves at least. The other thing to think about is the future, because every now and then we always forget that sometimes you buy players in January that become conerstone for your franchise. I think tomorrow is one of those guys who signed him in January. I didn't tweet yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1:So just because you're signing somebody in January does not make the terror channel that we signed. That is a fullback. I'm sure the plan for him is to take over from your captain at some point. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Before we go talk about you doing this game, I just want to shout out again to one player here who's been exceptional for Milan, which is Christian Pulisic. Pulisic got the Sierra Play of the Month for the month of December, which is even though he's been playing at our position.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's been excelling.
Speaker 2:He's either been playing out of position or not, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Have you actually imagined how well he might be doing if he was playing on the right left hand side rather than on the left?
Speaker 2:But whenever he this is a thing, though, he always has, do you know, pulisic, given the opportunities to when Liao was injured, or sometimes when he takes out Liao, he switches Pulisic to the left hand side.
Speaker 1:No, I know, I'm just saying, but Pulisic, I'm just passing it out there.
Speaker 2:I don't think Pulisic is that version of that can replace Raphael Liao to Benes. I'd rather prefer Okafo. To be honest, yeah, I prefer Okafo actually to actually replace Raphael Liao. And I'll tell you why. Pulisic comes in. When Pulisic plays in the left hand side right, he plays more to the middle, which I don't like. I like someone to take people one on one, and Pulisic doesn't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you see, yeah, Naye, we have different philosophies about this. So I like Pulisic on the left hand side. Because of what you just said, he plays more to the middle. Raphael Liao and your people. Your Raphael Liao always likes to take on too many people, and to me that's a sign of poor coaching from Milan to management. But that's beside it, Because the reality is like. I was watching with Denizzi. Do you know how many times I, Raphael Liao, have the ball? And then he wants to take on three people, and I'm thinking to myself if three people are looking at you, it tells me that there's a lot of options for you to. You know, let the ball go, and you know. But that's beside the case. I'm just saying like, sometimes you have to think about these things, though.
Speaker 2:Talking about the Denizzi game. Actually, let's talk about it. It was a very scrappy game. To be honest, I didn't like it. Do you notice? Was it a pitch or something was really quite wrong in that game. It was Milan. No, no, it was a pick. I think it was a frosty weather to start with. I think it was a frosty weather and the pitch as well, like it wasn't really. It wasn't fun for them Okay.
Speaker 1:So for me, the biggest positive is that they won the game, despite all the rubbish that happened with Mike Meyan. For me that's the biggest takeaway, because it would have been horrible to lose a draw that game, you know, with all the racist abuse towards him, especially given the fact that there was some suspicions of how he actually reacted from goalie, from his performance in terms of some of the goals. But let's back up. When I, when I talk about Milan now having control, sometimes think about that game. We had 74% possession. Did you feel like we had 74% possession in that game?
Speaker 2:To be honest, I think that's an average possession. Hold on, hold on. We had more possession towards the end of the game, not not like not through the entire game. That's the thing. And also I just kind of feel like that game. Let's talk about Tijan Reinders. I feel like it's time for Puyoli to start really giving that guy rest now, because it's it's it's beginning to feel fatigue and that game that is the game is a typical example.
Speaker 1:What's your thought Well, it's just something I. I for one, I'm always pro resting players, right, but some people believe that you have to play them until the legs fall off, then they get rest. They get rest in rehab when they are rehabbing from injuries. So I for one believe that, like again, there are some games you don't have to play, reinders right, there are some games you can. You can come in and play just 15 minutes. You don't have to start the guy every single minute, because we remember two weeks ago or three weeks ago we were complaining that he's going to soon end up being on the injury list at some point. Luckily for him, I think they took him off yesterday at some point. Musa is there Now, all of a sudden, musa does not get that many minutes again.
Speaker 1:Like I'm just saying like no, no, but not that many, because before he was getting a lot of minutes like it. Just you need to understand something, Dave. But Musa has been out of form, though, since he came back. Yeah, but you always get played, point. Oh my God. You always tell me how the players are out of form. So when you're out of form, what do you expect? Is that automatically means you just?
Speaker 2:come back from playing, when someone just returned from injury and they can and they know nothing, you can't only just rush them in like that. Not everybody's. Like Rafael Liao, I feel like he needs to slow, he needs to just slowly, you know, introduce Musa back in the team.
Speaker 1:So what do you mean by Rafael Liao? Rafael Liao is out of form as well.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. He's out of form, but he's a player. That, what are you? Is that a form? What is he form? See you see.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's the point. You're talking from two sides of your mouth, right, because the reality of this is let me explain. I said this before and I'll say it again If a player is part of the team, is part of the squad, you have to use the player because players get out of form or get. Wait, let me, let me, let me learn. If players get, ah, ah, pep wants bench. Pep wants bench there. What's his name? Kdb, when he was not playing well last year. He's KDB, we'll pair up Bet Rodry. If Rodry is not playing the way Pep expects him to play. I'm sure Rodry. See, you know Bernardo Silva.
Speaker 2:Bernardo Silva has has has has sat on no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Bernardo Silva sat on the bench a few times. Grilish goes in and out. Doku goes in and out. What am I getting at See?
Speaker 2:you see all these guys, you're talking about the importance.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, no, no, no. The point I am trying to make here is very simple. You cannot tell me that the reason why players go from getting lots of minutes to not getting that many minutes is because they are out of form. Because that does not sound right. Because if a player gets injured and they're trying to recover from the injury, part of getting form is by playing a lot of times right you can play so that you can get back to that fitness level that you were before, because that's technically what is formed we're talking about this. So take Ben Assel, for instance. Ben Assel came back and now he's been trying to play right. So all of a sudden Billy started him on games and before I know he will hit, he will hit top form because he's playing. If he can't put him on the bench and say, well, he's not in form because he just recover from injury, the next minute he'll be in fanabatics, like some people we know right, because he's not in form. So what I'm getting at is you have to play them.
Speaker 1:And you asked me about the journey renders and I brought up Musa, because the reality is that those are the kind of people that you can toss in there to help you hit up some of those minutes, which is what happened this game. Right, he brought him Musa for the journey renders. There's Musa, there's the journey renders. And I know it's not fair right now because Ben Assel is off, but when he returns, if he's not injured, when he returns, you know you can rotate all those guys. Try to give them, you know, different, because even even what is the name, ruben Losfischic, is now playing consistently lots of minutes, before I know it, one injury or the other, and then we'll go oh, why didn't we bench him? Sometimes you just have to trust some of those other guys that you have on the bench, even though they are not in form, because the only way they get back in form is by actually playing and not just throwing them in the back of the bench and forgetting about them and saying they are out of.
Speaker 2:I think Puyla has been doing well with these rotations. I don't think he's going back to the way he's been.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. I'm not talking about Puyla here. I'm talking about you and your mindset of if you're out of form, go on the bench. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Because, you're trying to become a lawyer and now you're speaking for a guy that did not ask you to speak for him. And if you're out of form does not mean go to the back of the bench.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'm just saying that I think Puyla's rotation has been, has been, good so far. Let's talk about them roughly, our struggle because to be honest he just looked very strange this season. Let's assume like the injury kind of slowed him down a little bit. Right, it's been what two months now since he's been back from injury, but he hasn't looked his best since that injury. I'm not sure what really happened. What do you think is wrong with him?
Speaker 1:If a layout plays on discipline football, there's a reason why he doesn't start for Portugal. There's a reason why at the World Cup they bring him in late Because the coach I remember the coach said that at Milan they allow him to do whatever he wants, but at Portugal it's not that. You know, that's not what he expects, bro. I watched La Fidel this past weekend. Half the time he was walking right and I'm taking it to myself. I don't care who you are when I watch Leverpouple Moçala even, who is running around and chasing after the ball and doing this. Look at the police he's doing. Look at the police.
Speaker 1:If you watch Manchester City that you mentioned everybody it doesn't matter if you've won the Champions League and everything you've won. They are still running like they have a point to prove. And then you come to Isimilan and then you have one guy and he's just going to walk around half the time, literally the ball you can see. The one that frustrates me is that his coach is right there. Zero respect for the coach. The coach is standing there watching him and he just comes there. The ball is right there, just precious more right. Pretend like you care. No, you're just going to walk like a desiccly, and then you give him the ball and then he tries.
Speaker 1:All this is, you know, trying to take on too many people at the same time. For me, again, if I say you say I don't like, purely, it's not about that, it's about accountability. If you can't hold Rafael Learau accountable for his behavior on the pitch and nobody at Milan can actually hold him accountable, then how do you want to get to that level that you and I expect them to get to Like? Imagine if this was. Which team am I going to use, say, even Juventus? Do you think Allegri would take that rubbish? I'm just asking you now if this was Juventus, would Allegri take that rubbish? Allegri, when you're working hard, you'll be telling you that that hard you're working is not even hard enough.
Speaker 2:And then, as a result, you're not playing. But this is not a new thing though. Oh no, it's not a new thing, it's been this way. Mbappe doesn't mark, he doesn't stick to the name. Well, guess what?
Speaker 1:When Mbappe gets the ball, mbappe delivers every single time. So if Rafael Learau can actually deliver as much as Mbappe does, I will not be complaining. I'm just saying the point I'm trying to make here is Mbappe. Is Mbappe Lune? Messi does not mark the ball half the time, but is that where Rafael Learau is Somebody? I cannot even start for Portugal's national team. This is who we are talking about as Mbappe and the guy like really. So anyway, the point is, rafael Learau does not understand something about football.
Speaker 1:What I can tell him is that, when it comes to the game, the more level of engagement you are unless you're those guys that immediately you can turn it on like this right the more engaged you are, the more your mind is sharper, the more your actions and your decisiveness, your more decisive right. When he's walking half the time on the field and acting and talking when the ball comes to him, even like his decision to pass or to run, he can actually miss those things. All of a sudden, he's running when he should be passing, he's crossing when he should be shooting. Because, yeah, because he's not engaged in the game, he's literally half the time. He's not paying attention to what's going on.
Speaker 1:You talked about Theo. The same thing applies, right. Theo is more engaged now because he is actually. He had to play that defensive role. He's now engaged. His brain is clicking right. Everything is becoming clearer for him. Rafael Liao is not there, he's just walking half the time and then when he gets the ball, he doesn't do anything, and the coach will not do anything about it, do you?
Speaker 2:think this is something he can improve upon.
Speaker 1:Yes, with the right person that makes sure that he understands that what he's offering is not enough. The right person Because he's through his shit, I'm listening. No, because for me it's not even about the results and the end product, it's just about how he goes like, how he actually approaches everything. Yeah, no, you're talking about attitude, it's just I don't think he actually is. How am I going to explain it? He's trying things that, to me, you shouldn't even be trying, but somehow he believes that he can actually try those things.
Speaker 1:This thing do you remember when we used to complain that it was in back hill, you know, in front of goals and all those kind of attitude? It is not. Maybe he's in new contract, maybe he has. He thought he has arrived, he has arrived. So, hey, who can tell him anything? Who can tell him what to do? So, yeah, at the end of the day, I just believe that, milan, we need someone who can actually purely has to step up and hold him accountable, otherwise you'll probably start losing some of the other players on the team. Everybody sees it.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I completely understand what you're saying, right From the Liao's attitude perspective.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I feel like he needs to understand that he has a lot of room to grow right as a player and also as a leader, because to him right now, I think he considered himself as a leader in Milan's squad, right. But the thing is just that again, you have to shoot that level of consistency for you to earn that respect from all the Milan fans in general. But again, I don't think people really want to rely on him that much, or maybe even at some point the manager will start to stop relying on him that much because of the fact that he lacks that consistency. And maybe, for example, someone who's playing on the right, like Policic, for example, putting in the amount of weight right from the right, when they start seeing that level, that level of consistency with Policic, attention will come to Policic. To be honest, again, I think Lea was a very good player and I think he's a player that can grow up to that world-class level that we are talking about. But he just have to do more. That's my own take on him.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what? I don't think he can grow up to that world-class player that we think with the current person that is managing him. No disrespect. So the reason why is because, if you think of Rafa Lea, right, he's a kind of player that I cannot talk about him a lot because he's not like a very self-driven guy, right, like when I'm self-driven. He's the kind of guy that you need a lot of external factors to motivate him. So if he maybe Raimovic is there, he can put a lot of pressure on him and he will play well. Maybe when Ronaldo is there, right, he sees Ronaldo, he's kind of playing to. I mean, now he's the best player, okay, he's the best player. He's the airspread player. You know, the coach can't even talk to him or say anything to him because he's too big. What he needs is someone who can actually bring him back down to earth. Now, that's why I said, with the current setup of Milan, it's so hard. He can't actually get there. Like, what do you expect of what's his name, stefano Piolli, to do?
Speaker 2:Please tell me Well there's a lot to do Bench him. I don't think it's just about Bench him, though. I think it's about trying to find the best way to communicate with him and make him understand the importance of his career.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Rafa Lea, like at Milan, right, he's been at Milan for four years, okay.
Speaker 2:Four years is not a long short time. He has grown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but think of the growth he's grown. But think about his growth and development. Okay, like there was a year where a guy like Rafa Lea she closes his eyes and can give you 10 goals and 10 assists each season. Forget that. I'm just saying goals and assists. Why would I say, use goals and assists for him? Because the reality of it is again, given the amount of talent he has, he should just fall on his lap literally, like he shouldn't even be struggling to have that.
Speaker 1:If you watch Mo Salah, right, mo Salah I kind of was thinking about Mo Salah in a little bit he's a winger. He's inverted A lot of the goals. His goals, if you look at it, they are mostly from the box, within the box, right? Yeah, rafa Lea just figured out one thing and he wants to just do that one thing over and over and over. But he hasn't added, he has not added a lot more elements to his game consistently. Sometimes you watch him he goes through the middle, like you complain that the police go through the middle, but police do that because it allows him. If you're very predictable in what you want to do, it's easy for people to tell you that they're going to be able to stop you, but if you actually add Is it just me, chin.
Speaker 2:I don't think Rafa Lea is that kind of player, that inverted winger that would think about or cut him and be calling both to the top corner.
Speaker 1:He should be doing Okay, but he's inverted. Otherwise, why are you inverting him? She didn't see just it's feeling. She's just leaving him on the right hand side so he can take on people and cross the ball.
Speaker 2:But the truth about this is, if you notice, Rafa Lea does most of his run on the edge of the line, right yeah?
Speaker 1:So then, why is he inverted then?
Speaker 2:Because, again, it's the way he position is dribbling. He's that kind of dribbler. That's the way he likes to dribble. He likes to dribble based on the fact that he pushes the ball up front and uses his right leg to cover the ball, putting him at an advantage when it comes to pace. So that's why you see multiple sometimes most of them they always try to drag him down because, again, he's not opening himself.
Speaker 1:No, rafa Lea does that what I call. So he has two moves. He's half leg over, half step over right. So you throw your right, use your left and push the ball forward and you run right. That's one. The other one is when he gets there, he does the fake I'm going to shoot, but then rolls the ball with his right leg and calls to his left leg If that's what you're going to do, that's one of his tricks. Yeah, if you're going to try to put the ball past somebody and run past them and then try to cross the ball, right, you should not be inverted.
Speaker 2:Sorry, no, no, no, I don't think Lea can play as a right winger. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I'm just saying you shouldn't be inverted, because the reason why coach started inverting people is so that they can actually get that chance to actually open up their body and take the shot. Right, yeah, exactly Good, suso, mo Salah, every other player literally right now. So in fact I can't even remember the teams that do not invert their full body, their wingers. Milan does invert, but we don't get the benefit of the inversion. So why are we inverting? So I'm just saying, if you're not going to Because I complained about it a while back, remember when I was saying that Rafael will cut in and then chip the ball to what is his name?
Speaker 1:Chip the ball to Giroux, and then Gokipa will catch the ball, or to go to Go Kick, like if you're going to cut in because, think of it, you want the guy to make the move, cut in and then shoot, and the funny thing is that it actually might work in his benefit, because you know why Theo Hernandez is going to run on the outside almost always. Let's say, you have the guy that is running on the outside. That guy takes up the space of the, occupies the mind of one of the defenders. That gives you room to actually go inside if you want to, but the thing is he doesn't do that. So basically, theo is now forced to run on the inside. Theo's run now at Milan most times it's inside run.
Speaker 2:But, to be honest, though, I think most runs that Theo makes, I think most runs that Theo makes from the inside actually has different strategies, different strategies for attacking, for, purely Well, if that's what they want to do, he's going to do it because of the fact that Leo is not making the run on the left, he's doing it because of the strategy. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, if this is what he wants to accomplish, then it's working out, because then Theo is now the most attacking player that Milan has, because then he's. No, I'm just saying, because there is no longer a referee, let's just change it, because if the conversation we're having is how do you get the best out of referee? Yeah, I'm telling you, if the conversation we're having is how do you get the best out of Theo Hernandez, then leave everything as is. We're getting the best out of Theo Hernandez. It's working. That's just the thing.
Speaker 1:Because the reality is that if a layout, to me he's inverted and not doing inverted work, and that to me just with the actual invertedness, because the benefit of invertedness is that is that you call the ball of far post, or you take on people so that you can go inside and because, think of it, your chances of scoring a goal increases once you cut inside right Towards the. You know what I mean. If the post becomes bigger for you, you can go far, you can go near, but when you do what he does, which is try to go to the byline and bring the ball back with his left leg to Jiru or somebody running in or Theo, then to me just a lower chances of actually you doing something. Okay, so they were going to sign him. I can't remember who was going to sign him, chelsea. I was wondering, like, what exactly were they going to get from him? Is he just taking on players?
Speaker 2:one-way, no, no, I think if he goes to Chelsea it's going to be a very good job. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Also, Jeremy Doku is also invited at Manchester City. The way he plays is like it's exactly how me. I expect most inverted wingers to play At Chain.
Speaker 2:Chain. Please can you not compare it to Naples?
Speaker 1:No, no, but it's just that, do you?
Speaker 2:think Doku is the better. Fast-making case is not. You start complaining Is.
Speaker 1:Doku a better player than Rafael Leal? No, exactly, so somehow, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's back up.
Speaker 2:Doku is not close to Rafael Leal.
Speaker 1:He's not better than Rafael Leal but again, somehow, based on how he plays, he looks a little bit more consistent than how Rafael Leal plays football, that's just all. He's not a better player I'm not telling you he is, but he just looks like he's more consistent. He knows what he wants to do than Rafael Leal does. That's just all I'm getting at, because again it's about how you actually the instructions you're giving to the guy and what he's supposed to be doing when he has the ball and right now doesn't look like Rafael Leal knows exactly what he wants to do with the ball.
Speaker 2:Well, I think again it's just, I just feel like Rafael Leal, just going through those Rafael Leal moments in the season where he just starts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you make the same excuse for all Milan players. It's just consistent across the board that they are all inconsistent.
Speaker 2:No, no, that's not the case. That's not the case, that's not the case. Anyways, just to quickly just talk about Stefano Pugli, because, again, I thought we were talking about him all along what we experienced in that within the game. Right To me, I just feel like that's a very good character and that's what we expect from Pugli as a coach in terms of his rotation and his substitutions and stuff right.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. Stop that, stop it. Okay, you're losing to Dinesi. What are you supposed to do, Davey, if you're the coach, are you going to put defenders in? You're going to attack, right? He had Giroud and what's his name? Jovic, and as many attacking players as he can. He was chewing.
Speaker 2:Okafo Chain. You and I know that if it was a typical Pugli that we know before right, he would not take off. Tijan Reinders.
Speaker 1:But he took out Reinders because, you saw it too, reinders was tired, like he was playing, like a guy that was tired, so he brought his energy.
Speaker 2:Chain you and I know the Pugli that I do before. He would lift Tijan in that game and let the guy run the attack right.
Speaker 1:So I'm actually surprised that I'm free. If you ask me, I would have. I'm surprised that Moussa did not actually get to play that game like more right or start or something. Why? Because the energy that these people have in midfield would have been good.
Speaker 2:Moussa would have been the best player to be on the pitch at that time To be on the pitch, like most of the time, Not about Reinders or nothing.
Speaker 1:right Now, again, he ended up making substitutions. What were the substitutions he brought in? Okafor? He brought in Florensi and then Jovic and Moussa. Right, those four substitutions, the big ones are Okafor and Jovic. Again, if you're losing, you just throw the kitchen sink at them, right?
Speaker 2:I don't think. I think he's been consistent with this sort of substitution and I think he deserves credit for it. This is not the first time, remember against Nuka Suwib. He's been doing this since the new Koso game. He brought in Jovic and Okafor at the same time. These are his options.
Speaker 1:I was going to say sorry, sorry, Hold on.
Speaker 2:He's beginning to build his backup weapons in case he wanted to do some situations like that of Udeniz yesterday, and I think he really deserves credit for it. To be honest, the thing is now, I think, the main issue that I feel like purely still need to address right In terms of his game management. I still feel he has a lot to do with Jude in the attack. What do you think? Because sometimes I just feel like Jude sometimes go quiet in the second half when we're needing help and stuff. I know he has a lot of experience and I know he comes like his experience always comes right, comes handy when we need it, for example, just like he didn't do any gaming stuff. Do you think he's holding too long before he introduces someone like Jovic or Okafor in games? Because when we scored right I'm not sure if he was a commentator that made a comment about he needs to start bringing in Jovic more earlier. That's what he said. What's your thought on that?
Speaker 1:I think you can answer that question because I don't know. You're asking me to figure out what your mentor is thinking. You can give me the answer. I don't know the answer. Sorry, go ahead and give me the answer. Dave, you're not serious. I'm being honest, because the reality is that whatever I say now, it would not actually hold.
Speaker 2:What do you think?
Speaker 2:To be honest though this is it here. I feel like I don't think the coach is the kind of person that he still has a little bit of trust issues here and there, to be honest, I can guarantee you on that one. But, however, I feel like he needs to learn to believe in this player a little bit more, in terms of when they run into situations and stuff like that, and he needs to give them a chance to play and stuff Like, for example, most of them need to come in early, for example. To be honest, they shouldn't play this game. Why don't you just rest and let Moussa start and see how the outings go and stuff? I think he's improving and I think he's going to get better. Chien, let's have fun. Why are there tops and flops in the game?
Speaker 1:I think Okafo and Jovic them coming in and having an impact was very good. As for flops, I think the way Milan approached this game from a midfield perspective was, in general, it was bothersome because it was too open and like Udenes had six guys in their midfield and then guess who were using to stop them? It's Adley. So it's like I've seen that meme where I can't remember what the meme is, but it's like a lot of things are coming against you and it's like one little guy just standing there trying to hold off. Udenes plays like a very aggressive midfield style of football. Like I'm just looking at the information, they had like five across the board and then Pereira, so that kind of gives you a lot of numbers in the middle. And yet what did we do? Let's throw in Adley and expect Adley and Reinders to hold back, hold the fourth. So that was, I think, one of the big ones. For me was that Also, Gabya was a good call out because he did look solid, very solid. So that's just that's mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my tops are pretty much the same thing as theirs as well. I think, first of all, I'll give Gabya to me. Gabya was a man of the match. He never put any foot wrong in that game and I think he just surprises me. He saw how to believe there's Gabya that's playing, to be honest, because whenever against Gabya in the past, right, I feel like, yes, we run out of options in the defense so he gets to play, but he stepped up, so he deserved the you know the call out here.
Speaker 2:And also, okafor. Okafor is hungry. Whenever he comes in right, that energy, that burst bed is always in him and I think I really like that. That's what I want to see. That's what I want to see. Chiquizzi, which, again, he's not showing, even in Afqon. He's not releasing, he's not really informed. And, chin, I keep telling you, if Chiquizzi come back from Afqon and he's not informed, he will sit in the bench for the rest of the season. Unfortunately, and again as what I heard, right as of the rumors I'm hearing right now, I think Milan is actually looking for another winger.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think Chiquizzi needs to go and spend some time at the gym and build some muscle and some power. That's what he's lacking he doesn't have power, okay. So, and like I agree with you on the present, I'm not telling you that Chiquizzi is doing well, but you're saying sometimes. Still, we have to also remember these are human beings and sometimes they have bad, bad periods, right and bad moments, so he might be going through his own now. You just have talked about it. The only reason why you're not saying Ben Charafeli is because what he has shown in the past, that he can do it. So to me, I just feel like you know what's good for the Gishe, it should be good for the Ganda, right?
Speaker 2:But to be honest, though, as bad as we were talking about Rafael, his contributions to a very like oh no, I'm not saying that he's as bad as Chiquizzi.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, like this time this is, level has dropped, just like Chiquizzi's level has dropped. So that doesn't mean that we should then relegate to Chiquizzi, to Fannabache, right? So all I'm saying is that he's going to come back. Well, maybe he needs another year at another office in that Milan, because he remember he came in late and maybe has not. Actually, I don't think he.
Speaker 1:The truth of the matter is he doesn't look like he's a very physically gifted player, but he looks like he might be smart, like he might know what to how, to kind of make some true balls here and there. Right, because I was watching him even for Super Egos. There was a nice pass he gave to Osemen against Ivory Coast and I just had flashes of when they played U17 together. Those are the kind of passes he does. Well, the thing that surprises me the most with him is that even the one-view one that I expect him to take on people and beat them he's not that good at one-view one all of a sudden, right. So that could come from lack of confidence sometimes, right? So I'm not saying he's doing well, though, before you go and carry on what I'm saying. Anyway, well, all I'm saying is give him time. Let me use your phrase give him time.
Speaker 2:Anyways, yeah, I think my flop in this game is basically, if we're good, To be honest, I think we did well. Maybe smoke here Because Old man really that one-on-one kind of like you know, he let me down with that one-on-one Like when I didn't go. I wasn't expecting him to fall like that, to be honest, but overall I think he did a good job. To be honest, he did a good job. Let's quickly talk about our transfer, the Milan transfer in the transfer market in this general window. Right, we only have like what seven to eight days left in the transfer window and Kruunic left for Fenebate and I think in his first game he actually assisted, which is good.
Speaker 1:So he is allowed to play international football in Kruunic.
Speaker 2:Go forward, oh man, and Romero is going to, my little miss is going to, he's going to.
Speaker 1:Amaria online. Oh wow, I'm surprised. I thought Romero was supposed to. He's so good. He's so good. He was supposed to come and solve Amilanz's left, right wing problem.
Speaker 2:Can that be real? I'm going to be biased or maybe I'm going to be a little bit sentimental. To be honest, I think purely played politics to put Romero in the bench because he felt like they paid better money for for for Chupuizi and they want to see. They want to see him because of the market and stuff. That's why they just that's what they played. If not, I think Romero Romero deserve he deserve more chance to be honest.
Speaker 1:So you're here telling me that your coach does not have consistency in how he beats you. He's going by.
Speaker 2:I said I want to be biased. That's what.
Speaker 1:I said, okay, well, sure, sure, because the reality is that, like again, I'm not surprised, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2:Anyways. Anyways, if you have to make a choice, right Because of the whole room, or now going around, I mean, we saw one player at Tarasiano, right and from what? From Verona, and I think it's a really good addition. I don't know why purely didn't play him last game, to be honest, but again, I guess most of the tension and everything in that game, so I'm not surprised that purely went for the attacking options. Do you think Milan should bring in another striker, this, this general window, or just leave Jude and Jovic, which you um with Okafor, what? What are you suggesting? Where would the attacking option play, though, of course, like the typical nine?
Speaker 1:No, I think. I think the way they have it right now is like Jovic, jovic is informed, he has it formed. You know, like you have Jiru still like, if you're going to bring somebody, who are you going to bring to come? What are they going? What are they going to come to take over the? Are you going to bring a true number, nine, or you're going to bring a backup to the backup to the backup?
Speaker 2:That's a good question. I'm actually hearing some rumors that they're actually about to extend them Jovic's contract as well, so which is good, to be honest. Because I think he really look he's working to earn it and if he keeps playing like this, I don't have any problem.
Speaker 1:To be honest, yeah, until he gets a two or three year contract and then he goes back to just resting on his laurels, and then you cost a complaint. Oh my God Jovic, oh my God Jovic.
Speaker 2:Like I don't think he's going to be like that. But I think we both agree we need a CDM. To me, I feel like Cronage leaving should give another room for Milano to bring in another centra centra midfielder and it should be a CDM this time Someone that can defend that's good on a defensive phase, so that whenever we're having a particular game and we need someone to actually defend in front of the, to play in front of the defense, I think we should get a midfield that has that sort of features and stuff. What would you talk about? You see, I don't know, man, like if I can tell you what I want, but maybe you can. I can make references to what I want.
Speaker 2:For example, some players, right, if you look at the way this guy plays, like you know, when Casemiro was Madrid Casemiro, for example. Or you see Amrabat in Nation's Cup, for example, someone that has the ability to, like you know, to like to work hard, like to do that work, create that midfield. Or maybe, if you look at Camarvinga, for example, that's a sort of typical example. And that sort of midfield is what I think Milan needs right now that will have that sort of you know, that will help in the midfield and also be able to like do the rough job and everything like that.
Speaker 1:Is it just me, or has this window been very boring and dry? It is boring. It is boring.
Speaker 2:Now for Milan, for everybody. It is born in general. I don't know. I think it's very weird because normally for Like, if you look at transform on do for like, what last last transfer last winter, transform on doing in in epo, right, it was very busy, they spent a lot of money, but then Don't forget that I was putting as it wasn't. Well now when Chelsea, chelsea said stop buying everybody, the market there.
Speaker 1:Oh, do you think, do you think the ongoing afghan and Asian cop has a lot to do with it? Because to me I feel like maybe these people are they are like a A little hesitant to start spending money on people. Maybe they're looking to see who's going to shine at afghan I don't know if I honestly don't know what's going on or maybe Everybody, like, for once in their lifetime, everybody's settled into the positions that they actually believe that they know what the season is going to look like at the end of the year. So a good example is In England, like the top three teams, they can't know themselves and they're not really that they're not in need of like a lot of players, so they're not moving the market. Teams like Chelsea and, let's say, manchester United and the other guys, they really do not. They're not competing for a lot of things right now. So guess what? They don't need a lot of players either, right? So similarly, across the board, if you go through most of European teams, it's like yeah, because basically, like it's, it's just so, you have them You're not looking for, because usually players, teams look for players to help them improve or get through tough times, right, and it seems like a lot of the teams like Milan right now.
Speaker 1:Okay, maybe I can call them tight two contenders, but the reality is that they are nine points behind and whatever behind. So, technically speaking, if you're investing a lot of money for a guy just for the next five, three, four, four months to help you get you where to finish fault when you're going to finish for Twitter without that guy, you know what I mean. And then the same thing applies to say it seemed like in time. I'm not need a lot of players right now because they have. They're doing quite okay. There's no disability. What I'm getting at is I think maybe a combination of factors might be leading to this slow transfer market for all the teams in Europe. Plus, there's no money Like nobody has money to spend. So, because the only teams that you might see that should be making moves, I want in the bottom of the table relegation teams. But if you go to England, for instance, even the relegation battle it's almost like it's almost Insane. I see something to it, looks like.
Speaker 1:You know, you know the people that go on relegation.
Speaker 2:They already kind of pack their bag and I ready to talk about talking about talking about the rest of the Team in it. Right, I think I kind of feel like the way the decision is going right, it's obviously going to be between Inter, juventus and Milan, right, and I think Juventus are beginning to. It's so funny because after, after, after, juventus defeated them, let you today, right, I think I like, I like to kind of from the them, the, the decent, the school that touches, which, which I feel like I like, I kind of like you, because, again, I just want the pressure to be completely off. Milan's this in shoulder right, and then, last, you do be the silent, silent contenders, newly working themselves, working themselves open stuff, because, regardless, we're gonna head into what Juventus is to play in Italian cup.
Speaker 2:Inter is currently in In, in, in in United Arab, arab Arab Emirates or maybe in Asia, basically playing for the spark of Italy, right, which I feel like, again, is a sounder distraction in its own. Yeah, maybe a cup the win about. To be honest, I don't see the value in it which can help Milan as well. I am not giving up yet, to be honest, I'm not giving up yet and I feel like, again, 9 points is not too much of a gap that Milan can close in on. That's how I feel.
Speaker 1:Well, the hope is yours to have right, so it's also yours to give up one. So again, like I said, it's a. You said in 9 point doesn't sound like a lot. The reality is that in your mind, it's not the only problem that you have is not that? It's not about just a, oh my god, inter Milan draw points, but can Milan consistently? Literally, can Milan keep keep winning consistently enough to win the league versus also the Juventus? So Juventus also have to not draw points and then Milan again has to consistently keep winning. No, like to me. I just think that's the problem we have. It's not like this Milan team is like a juggernaut that figured themselves out and they are actually very consistent in how they are going to go about things. Right. Like we almost literally lost to the nasi, your daddy, and next week we're playing. A while we play. Now I can't remember, but look now, yeah, we're playing, yeah, yeah. And are you? Are you coming out 100% saying, yeah, we must win that?
Speaker 2:even though we own them.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying you will not really be surprising if you go there, milan struggle, and then Wait a bit to be looking at draw points. No, what I'm getting at is Milan is not consistent enough. Juventus have gone like God knows how many games without losing, like gone almost more than 12 games without losing 15. Actually there, oh okay, there, you go 15 whole games. Can Milan, this Milan team that you see, can they? Can they go 15 games without losing? Because in time Milan will come in that 15 games, you know right, and Juventus will find their way in that 15 games.
Speaker 1:What I'm getting at is Milan is not consistent in terms of what they are trying to do. The players are not 100% fit. Someone is going to get hot at some point and you make that as an excuse that we cannot. Actually, we can keep it up. Inter can rattle off 10 straight wins if they want to. I know that for a fact because if done it, they can do it. Juve has just shown you they can do it. Can Milan actually do that? When you can confidently tell me yes, then I can join you and keep hope. Right now, my hope is asleep. I'm just putting it to bed.
Speaker 2:Anyways, anyways, chin, it's been a pleasure talking to you. We should probably catch up after the Bullock Nugget game, for sure, but in between, I just want to say big thanks to our listeners for always showing us love. I downloaded our 2022 recap. You know. It was just something joy to watch, knowing that we have listeners all around the world, right from Europe to Asia to Africa, all around. This is just something that melts my heart and I just want to say please give us a review, or maybe just go to our iTunes or maybe Apple Podcast and just give us a review and let us know your location and we'll give you a shout out, definitely on our next episode, and we're going to be doing this on a weekly basis now just to show love for our listeners and stuff. So please go on whatever platform they're using to listen to your podcast and just give us a review and let us know your locations and definitely we'll give a shout out, for sure. Chin, do you have anything else to say?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so basically, for I also want to thank everybody that privately reached out to me to kind of you know, give me feedback on the podcast and to, kind of you know, encourage, encourage us and say, hey, like we listen and we're looking forward to the next episode. So, like Dave said, I think it would be a good, it would be good to actually call out those people that drop reviews, reviews and comments publicly for us and, yeah, we do appreciate the love and the support. So keep it coming and keep it going.
Speaker 2:And with Chin, it's been a pleasure talking to you. We definitely patch up next Sunday. Forza Milano, yeah, forza.
Speaker 1:Milano, take care of yourself and all the best, thank you, thank you. Thanks for watching.
