Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
The Story Behind AC Milan's Current Campaign: Chin & Leo Are Still Not Satisfied With Pioli
Dive deep into the heart of calcio as we unfurl the renaissance story of AC Milan back to the second position on the league table, after an arduous battle with injuries at the start of the season.
We dissect Milan's season with a magnifying glass, scrutinizing the impact of new signings, the tactical prowess of Coach Stefano Pioli, and the nail-biting journey that is filled with ups and downs. The thrill of victories and the agony of defeat in matches against underdogs like Bologna and Monza are relived, as we debate the crucial role of Milan's inconsistency and discipline that has put them 16 points behind their city rivals Inter Milan.
The debate heats up when we compare the Rossoneri's strategies to those of their arch-rivals, Inter Milan. You'll get front-row seats to a passionate discussion about the contrasting approaches of both clubs and how these decisions have sculpted the destiny of these iconic clubs.
So lace up your boots, and join us for an episode that transcends the pitch, where every move is a brushstroke on the canvas of football's ever-evolving artistry.
The Rossoneri Renaissance is complete After 11 years.
Speaker 2:once again, milan are the champions of Italy. It's they who wear the crown for the 2021-2012 season. Hello everyone, this is Davion Chin. Talk Milan, we are back again. What's up, guys? How you doing Chin? Welcome back to Canada. How many months? How?
Speaker 3:many weeks. Actually. It feels like a long time. Well, actually it was like four weeks, but it feels like what's it called? A very, very long time. But I'm back, I'm glad to be back. And Milan Leo, how are you?
Speaker 2:doing bro. It's pretty minute man.
Speaker 1:I'm doing okay, I'm doing good Forza Milan.
Speaker 3:Did you also travel to Nigeria?
Speaker 1:No, I've been in the city. No leave, no transfer.
Speaker 2:The last time we actually spoke was, I think, after the Edeniza game. Wow, that feels like a long time ago, yeah it feels like a long time actually. So it feels good, to be honest, I know, to travel back to Nigeria for vacation and kind of giving the chance to take some time off. To be honest, sometimes this thing it's more fun when it's fun. You know what I mean I agree.
Speaker 3:When it feels like it's now work, then it becomes like fun.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, it's something interesting stuff.
Speaker 3:I hope you are rejuvenized Because I can see that you've been posting a lot about PO Lee lately, so your blood is boiling.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I know that's not how you apply it. I've always posted about PO Lee, though that's the thing you will be PO Lee PR, all guy.
Speaker 3:So today I saw your post. I was thinking I was shaking my head, dave. Even PO Lee PR does not send out as much information about PO Lee as you. But hey, don't worry, he still has two more months.
Speaker 2:You know what's the 10 is. I'd just like to enlighten you guys about what you guys might end up missing by next season. But let's just leave it there first, because let's talk. You know, honesty Wright, the last time I spoke around after the Genesee game, I kind of have this sort of feeling that I still believed that there's some glimpses. You know what I mean To catch into whatever, but unfortunately I think we dropped some points in some games that we shouldn't have. For example, I think the big one, the one that really hurt me the most, actually was the Bologna one, because the Bologna was after the Genesee. We dropped points against Bologna, we dropped points against Monza, we lost 4-2 to Monza and again we dropped points against Atlanta as well, which kind of, like you know, sealed the sealer.
Speaker 3:Which took all your hope, your tiny hope you had. Well, it's just 16 points, right, yeah? And he's actually still the coach. Don't worry about it, he will fumble.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what? I think the biggest concern in all these games is that we dropped these points right, especially the I think it was. Is it a Monza game? That we lack this sort of discipline and we just were wide open all through the game and stuff. And before we go back, before we start analyzing those games, I think what I really want to talk about is sorry, what I really want to talk about is basically where we left off and where we are at the moment, and obviously there's been a whole other conversation about purely right from the start of the season anyway, so I don't think it's new anymore. My question right now is for you, leo, so far with these new boys right, how they started and stuff like what they are right now, regarding you know, the level of performances and what have left in the season, how have you seen this score so far this season? Do you feel like they could have done better? Like what level? Like what assessment so far?
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, dave. For me I would say it was a new Assembled team and so far the team has been doing their best. You know how I feel about the fact that the team could do better, in the sense that the talent is there, the abilities is there, the experience is there for them to achieve better than what they are currently achieving right now. I am strongly of the opinion that, practically, milan has not shown up this season at all, and you know, you know, I always hold accountable for the fact, because that's his job, to make sure that these guys, you know, with what they have, with their talents and their resources, they are getting their results. But I would say it's not been a bad season.
Speaker 1:After our second league, it wouldn't have mattered anyway. It's not this point we dropped because Inter, they, they were just, they've just been a locomotive engine. You know they, they're fashion everybody and winning every game. So even if we had won all those games, we'll see probably the eight points shot or nine points shot of Inter. So at this point it doesn't, it doesn't matter. So I would just say my advice would be consolidate on what we have. You know, hold what you have. This could be it's gone, forget about it, don't even bother chasing it, and then focus on the Europa League. That's, that's one area where we could, you know, redefine our season, in the sense that if we go all the way and win the Europa League, that's actually one trophy Milan hasn't won before, it's a European trophy which you know would really we can even stick it to Inter at that point. So say you, look at, you know you won this credit to one of the Europa League, and you know, and just avoid losing to them when we play the second game against them.
Speaker 3:That would be like what? Six or seven losses in the area against Inter.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay so.
Speaker 1:I would lose my mind if that happens.
Speaker 2:I think I have a question for you, chindo, to be honest, and the question is based on the way a boot team has been assembling the squad right the past couple of years. You know how Inter based their squad based on experienced Well, they catch it, they sign them on free transfers. You know what I mean. They have like the same muscle, muscle that plays are really pretty much match up players. You know what I mean. They're like their top class, basically at the level of their career, compared to the model that Milan usually adopt, which is basically looking for young talent, trying to groom them and build them up and stuff. Do you think this approach by both club has has, like it has, impact in the level that they both are at the moment?
Speaker 3:Yes, and then no, okay, the biggest part is yes, depending on where you are right as a team, sometimes, like Milan, we all know the story. We went through hell for almost a decade, right, and? And the Maldini came, and they've been trying to rejuvenate the team, change the strategy. You know there's no money to actually spend on code. Remember the time Milan would go by everybody and still struggle? Yeah, and Maldini came with an ideology of, okay, let's groom them young, let's find them, find good talent, you know and let them become the new core of Milan.
Speaker 3:Funny enough that that was like five, four, five years ago, right, yeah, it has led to a skudetto title, but aside from that, you know, we've just been all over the place in that same period in Tamil Nadu, they've had about two coaches, right, konte and Zaghi in that same time. And those two coaches, like you said, what they do is they have a few young players that have been there all this time, right, like Barela, and a few people have been there forever, but what doesn't change is their ability to be able to assemble experienced players and try to compete. So, in Tamil Nadu, almost every year, you can go into the season basically tell yourself they are probably going to be top two in the league, and that has almost always been the case, right Even the year Milan won the league. So they have money to do that, milan doesn't Right.
Speaker 3:Then now Milan won the league, then we try to upgrade the squad. Well, technically we didn't last year, but this year we try to upgrade the squad. But the struggle has been the fact that we upgraded the squad. But it doesn't matter, because you talk about young players and no young players. A lot of the players signed last season this summer, when they're not really that young, like Loftus Chik, is here. Yeah, young boy, loftus Chik, young boy, police.
Speaker 1:Young boy. You know, no too crazy who is still there? Too crazy, those guys are master of the experience. They're not that young.
Speaker 2:In football. They may be young. I wouldn't completely agree to that, though.
Speaker 1:I mean, what has Chikouzi really done in his career? Chikouzi has at least three seasons with Villarreal. Well, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 3:Let me not be real. Because Chikouzi? It's almost like you're saying Chikouzi is young because, according to you, he hasn't done much. But then what's he called? You're comparing him to people like T'Nali that only had one season in Serie A before you signed him, or Kanunu, who was in Division 2. Or Malik Teow, who was in Division 2. Those are young people, men that have played people scoring hard tricks at the Ben Abo Bill. They're not young people. Those are matured men. You know what I mean. That's a matured man right there. He might be bad, he might be out of form, but he's a grown-up man. Similarly, loftus Chik has. Actually, he was on the downside of his career. Chelsea gave him a way for Milan. They say we pull the switch.
Speaker 2:Those are not young people. I just kind of feel like all these things that we guys are calling right, if you look at the names that you're calling and you look at the models of the players that come to Inter Milan, they're not the same.
Speaker 3:No, it didn't. Let me finish. Let me learn. The difference between Milan and Inter Milan is Inter Milan has an idea of what they want to do, so they just go and buy players that fit that model. Yeah, you are just doing the long run.
Speaker 2:They have a meta coach.
Speaker 1:They have a coach Coach Like tactician. That is the difference.
Speaker 3:Leo, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you some questions. Let me explain.
Speaker 3:I wanted to get there when Conte was there. Conte knew who he wanted, the kind of players. So even if they are older, you know he would go and get them because he knows what he wants. Now in Zaghi came over the last few years. You see profile of players has been buying almost the kind of people that he wants and so he knows what he wants from them.
Speaker 3:Milan, if you think about it, when Piolli has been in Milan one minute, you are buying people that can run fast. The next minute you are buying old, slow people. The next minute you are buying fat people, skinny people. You are buying guys that can dribble, guys that can pass dribble past one person. It's all over the place. So every year it's like Milan is starting a new project almost every year and the only constant there is the coach. He's been there for almost four years and I don't think he's on the same level as in Zaghi. I'm glad that you've seen what I've been telling you for a while now, that Zaghi, in my own opinion, is a top, top coach. Just because he's Inter Milan's coach does not mean you can hit on the guy If you can pull what is the.
Speaker 2:I'm not hitting on him.
Speaker 3:But you used to tell me that Piolli was way better than me. I think you will not really understand my perspective about him, but I buy.
Speaker 2:Zaghi in general.
Speaker 3:What I just want you guys to understand is Okay, sorry before you go, my summary is this yes, piolli, coach the Inter Milan over the last five years have had better coaches than Milan has had. Simple no matter who Milan brings in, it doesn't matter, they have better coaches. Simple.
Speaker 2:So Chen. So, based on your assessment, you feel like Milan's participation or Milan's level of signing is equal to Inter. So, but the coach is woman.
Speaker 3:the difference Okay yes, I'll tell you why. How can? When he was a Milan.
Speaker 1:So wait, I'm telling you now when. How can? Was a Milan we?
Speaker 3:used to complain. Leo, do you not remember? Milan fans will boo him one minute because he was so inconsistent. Do they boo him at Inter Milan? Now they're talking as if he knows he's the next coming of our Lord and Savior.
Speaker 2:Have you watched Akkan's interview? Have you read the interview?
Speaker 1:Akkan keeps saying he's the best.
Speaker 3:If Milan wanted to buy Anatovic, Milan wanted to buy Turamp, we'll buy all these players and then, before you know Turamp, we'll play as a left back for Milan Left back exactly.
Speaker 2:And then Leo would have done everything. What are you guys boozing, saying the bucket was open for Milan and Inter? Milan and Inter were both battling to sign Turam or the last day of the transfer. Who did Milan go for?
Speaker 3:Jovey.
Speaker 1:You didn't go for it.
Speaker 2:So you, you, you you sorry Can. I, can I learn, can I learn?
Speaker 3:What the? Point I'm trying to make to you is this every player that comes to Milan automatically, according to you people, becomes a not so good player. They are not, but him. There was there last year. Oh, up and down, he's so inconsistent. I said the same thing, you know, and Siddiq was there last year. Oh my God, siddiq is the worst player that God has ever made. Right now, all of a sudden, you.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm trying to say. People not complaining about Rinder. So when Milan signed Joveych at the beginning of the season, what was your, what was your comment about Joveych? It's the same thing.
Speaker 3:Joveych is not a good player. Why am I? What are we talking about? He's not a good player, You're so funny man.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you look at the entire team. You know you start picking up all you pick, start picking on all the failures, all the failures.
Speaker 3:So Milan scored Mali Teow Mali.
Speaker 1:Teow, they're vis-à-vis even making our points. For us, inter Milan does not sign any player they don't know how to use.
Speaker 3:Yes, they buy people they need Because they have.
Speaker 1:They have a coach and they have a sporting director, that they come together, they look for the profile of players they need that fits and they sign. How many players do you know that Inter Milan can change their entire first 11 team?
Speaker 2:You know you don't want, you don't want, so funny about this argument. Wait, milan is second to the team.
Speaker 3:And they would, and they would win. Wait sorry, Milan, Milan is second to the team we are like one million points behind, One million points behind.
Speaker 1:Milan is second to the team, you have to keep going, you have to keep going, you have to keep going, you have to keep going and then if you play, if you play it that tomorrow, we will collect.
Speaker 3:Like, if Milan plays it that tomorrow I know that's there Honestly, we will collect. Honestly, we will collect Milan. You see, you don't understand. So I was watching Inter Milan. Somebody was telling me Inter Milan, it seems like they are like next level and I'm looking at them going are you serious? Some of them said their players are not that much better than the Milan players, but somehow they perform at an excellent. They are not.
Speaker 2:Chid, you don't want to worry about you. You talk stuff like this and I just took a. You like bed.
Speaker 3:Okay, sorry, you know what.
Speaker 2:So, Milan, Milan, hold on hold on, hold, on hold on Milan in their striker. They were bidding. They were bidding with Inter for Trump. You know what we lost it. We went for Jovic. Milan was bidding for defender?
Speaker 1:No, because he has seen that this is a serious club. This is the club where I feel like, do you just inter?
Speaker 2:because Inter offered him a better pay.
Speaker 1:What are you saying?
Speaker 2:Back your facts, Don't start. Let me tell you. He chose Inter. If Inter offered a better pay, Milan will have him pay price forever.
Speaker 3:I followed, everybody followed that. Okay, whether Milan offered better pay, no, better pay.
Speaker 2:If we decide whether to sign, whether to sign Benjamin Pavard from Beamanage. So you know this guy has been in Beamanage for how long. You know what happened. We went for Pellegrino. You know what Pellegrino is playing now.
Speaker 3:Say like this what are you?
Speaker 1:What are you Sorry what?
Speaker 3:are you? The management decided to make a rubbish.
Speaker 1:Are you saying Inter has better players, or what?
Speaker 2:If that's what you're saying, don't say it Just say it to your chest that Inter has better players. Inter has, are you saying?
Speaker 3:Sorry. Inter Milan has better players Great. They have a better squad Awesome. So if you give your coach to Inter Milan and say, let them coach, they will be doing what they are doing to Europe and Milan, the Serie A.
Speaker 2:We play differently. We play different style of football. That's why we go for different style of players.
Speaker 3:Good. So that's why Milan is signing players that somehow the coach does not know how to use. And they say the players are bad.
Speaker 2:So two players who flopped is on Milan and is on Piolli no. Two players who flopped is on Piolli no. Tell me who put you guys into the career.
Speaker 3:How about?
Speaker 2:talking about the best game in his career. How about talking about the best game in Europe? How about talking about the best game in Europe Again?
Speaker 3:In Milan under the same coach. How about Jovic?
Speaker 2:Okay, so they seem like the same coach, these guys are the guys that will put together just the last minute of this, of some of these things in terms of them, and you guys see, you guys come and say have your dusty to be on Piolli After the guy did everything possible to put it together.
Speaker 3:So every year, every season we come into the season, it's almost like we are starting a brand new project. Great teams in Milan that you have seen there.
Speaker 2:You cannot bring this on Piolli. This is on your management that lacks capability.
Speaker 3:But then this is not Piolli. Okay, so I guess Piolli is not a top top coach. That's why they are just taking players away from him.
Speaker 1:No, it was management. Can I ask you?
Speaker 2:what do you know about Milan's transition? From the previous management to the current management.
Speaker 1:It was management that threw away the Champions League. Hold on.
Speaker 2:What do you know about Milan's transition?
Speaker 3:Do you know what is his investment in management? Okay, leo, quick question. It was management that decided that he would play in the Champions League match Pobega Krunic and Rubio Lossi's cheek. It was management that decided that Adley was not good enough to play football for EC Milan because he was not good enough.
Speaker 2:It was management that decided that it is because of the kind of players that you are signing these players are just growing. The new player, your players growing.
Speaker 3:You know what? It is the same management that will help Piolli, because every management that comes in seems to want to fire him. Right For some how the guy has like nine lives. He's like a cat. So what if?
Speaker 2:Like you said, all these management that want to fire him, why have they kept him?
Speaker 1:I'm sure Piolli spends half of his salary.
Speaker 3:I'm asking you Please don't listen to Dave.
Speaker 1:Dave, you have to share this thing, this thing that Piolli is pushing your way, you know what Piolli is pushing your way you have to share with your boys.
Speaker 3:Just buy me, milan Metranda, I have goods, you can be getting all that money. And then, because if the guy was such a good coach, I've not seen a coach like you. The way Dave values Piolli, you think that Piolli is a nice coming of our Lord. Meanwhile, everybody that shows up every time he loses one match or draw one match, they want to fire him. Is this how the thing works? And then you're looking at the Zaghi. I remember earlier this season I was telling Dave how good the Zaghi was. He's telling me Zaghi threw away the league Because Zaghi was the goalkeeper making error. Right, he threw away the league. He threw away the league.
Speaker 2:And then now Give me one reason to even believe you, sir. Was it not the same you that was hyping Allegra a few months ago? Allegra?
Speaker 3:has not been a bad coach. Nothing has changed about you, bro. You'll get ship. No, do you know what is actually crazy about Dave and the people in that group? So Bologna, right when they were going through bad form as though teams don't go through bad form they started making fun of Thiago Mota. So Bologna is overachieving. They are going to finish top five in the league right, with the squad that, according to you, is so not great right Now. All of a sudden, now their players are looking good and everybody wants to buy their player. And then AC Milan went and bought so many good players and yet we are like one million points behind Inter Milan. How many games?
Speaker 2:is Milan playing? How many games is Bologna playing?
Speaker 3:Okay. So what are you missing? I'm not asking you.
Speaker 1:So Bologna plays one game in which, dave, all of these things are just no Inter Milan, they are not excuses.
Speaker 2:No, they are not excuses.
Speaker 3:Yo, Inter Milan plays one game a week too. They don't play Champions League.
Speaker 2:No, they play one game a week you play one game a week too. Did you see that behind Milan? How many games are they playing in a week?
Speaker 3:Juventus' problem is different. Their own issue is a different issue.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you why. What's their?
Speaker 3:issue Because you come into the season. Your argument is this right when you and I made season predictions, we said a league was going to be between Milan and Inter. Why do you think that was said? It's because, in my own opinion, when you look at the boot squads, right the club itself is in disarray, right.
Speaker 1:Well, juventus, exactly. You see it, the problem is Juventus are having. If I issue, you shouldn't praise the league, I believe that, for going to the other top tomorrow and coming up with almost second place right.
Speaker 3:So again, I don't understand about that. So, coming into, the season.
Speaker 1:my prediction was, dave if Milan was given a 10.3 deduction the season before the season, how do you think that would have affected our season?
Speaker 2:What are you saying they had the entire season to prepare for this season? What are you saying?
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Speaker 2:They fall dead. Even their fans are against them.
Speaker 1:You know that they are not. They're not, they're not as financially buoyant as they were. Couple of seasons, a good Sign any player they want to sign. Again, you can't use. You can't use a leg we as a shield for purely.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you a good example of the.
Speaker 1:Let's just purely based on what, what materials he has and how is he using, how is he, how is he?
Speaker 2:See, here's my only here's my assessment assets. Right, here's my assessment because I think and I've said it before, right, if you put a new team together Based on the statistics of Milan the last three seasons, right from the season, that they actually start picking up, maybe, like I think a season after purely came right up to up to now. One thing that I've noticed about Milan is the players development. It's not something that comes in instant because of the fact that that doesn't kind of play with sign. We're not like inter that signs like, for example, now it's a little.
Speaker 2:Zellinsky is already there. Tell me, is this is already coming? These are top-class player that you know. They have like a lot of experience under their belts, right? So Again, that's just how the does. A model of signing Milan is different.
Speaker 2:Milan look for young talent that it can develop like a game 22, turning to a valuable asset in the in future, where they can either sell just like the way they are looking to sell alpha layer Now to pay PSG now. The thing is, if you want to operate on this model, you cannot just expect a team of 11 players that have been put together no machineries that maybe you know. Okay, this is a year we're going for champions, we're gonna go one get champions. That's why it works. They're not machineries, they are player that also needs to be developed and, based on my sense so far, I think purely has done a very good job in putting this team together to this level, because this is something that people are pretty.
Speaker 2:Leo, this Same you, this same you. What one saying, oh Milan, we just wait, is without fire, purely now. Or Milaners Because I'm pretty much a member vividly said that. This same you that said purely, if they keep your list there, no decision Me now be completely ruined. That's guy. Look, we guys are offering the puny. Okay, sorry, javed, have you.
Speaker 3:Let me, let me, let me, no, no, no no, let me, let me you Hold on.
Speaker 2:Let me, let me, I'll give you. Will you have you thought?
Speaker 1:you think, purely is good now, because it's second.
Speaker 2:This is a set of people you change uncle, where the one saying oh milan has my identity, they have nothing, have no way of playing in blah, blah, blah. Up to the point that reputable coaches like Spaletti made a comment that the best team that he prefers to watch in the entire Italy is AC Milan, because the style of play is just so modern and so fun to watch. Anyway, my own thing is if you want this team, this current team that Milan has right now, if you think they can do better, they have to do better at next, with purely next season. If you give them a new coach and they introduce a new system, they're going to struggle again. That's how I see it.
Speaker 3:Okay, so let me tell you my own thing. You've made your point right and I'll tell you this Last year I supported, purely because I felt like they gave him very low quality material to work with.
Speaker 3:Exactly this year they were just giving him ranks and a lot of, like you know, raw talent. Salah Makes, salah Makes has been there himself. We even brought the Tiaw, and then we brought in a lot of very not good players Salah Grino, good. So Milan goes into the market. Milan signs Tijani, renders Right. They signed Ruben Lofti's Tjig Puli, siec, nua Okafo, chukwese blah, blah, blah. So they signed all these established players that have had at least four or five good seasons in the top flight. We played Nua Okafo in the Champions League the year before. He's been in….
Speaker 2:Just because of the first day, that doesn't mean that this guy is a top and ready mid player to take on players.
Speaker 3:So the point I'm trying to make is this right in this world, right in that world of football, you are a young player. When you're coming, nobody knows you. You know, like your, romero, for instance, was a very young guy. You know, like Pellegrino, I give you, but those are not the people we were relying on. They're not even a Milan anymore because we were not relying on them. The people that are Milan today are the ones we are relying on. Go and look at our team. There's not a lot of young guys there. They are still young, but they are not that young because they've had too many years experience in the top flight. Similarly, if you go to Inter Milan, it's the same, almost the same thing. The only difference is that they are old guys that they bring in tend to perform. Our own old guys cannot perform consistently, so they get put on the bench and some of them that start the season, they get sold out for free, literally Right. So the point I'm trying to make is the only consistent thing across the world, over here this year, you see, this year, my own thing is that Pellegrino has underutilized his squad and it's because of stupid decisions and lack of idea of what he wants to accomplish.
Speaker 3:I'm not joking, because you cannot tell me. You start a season with Adley on the bench and then Krunic playing ahead of him, pobega playing ahead of Tijani Rindas in Champions League games, and then you turn around. Now Krunic is no longer part of Milan. Literally, adley is now irreplaceable. You have to play him all the time. And you see there and tell me it is defensible. Now in his, moussa hardly even gets minutes anymore. Right, he's now like coming in one second before Moussa was playing all the time. Whenever you're informed, you get to play forever, and then, when you're informed, you just go to the bench and miss and that's all I want to believe that what you say you're just saying, you're just making fun of it.
Speaker 1:I got that thing. I want to add, dave, just to you know trouble. You said something about Inter signing experienced players, right, and Milan has a different model. So for Inter, I think what it works out for them is that these experienced players, you know likes a Bikitarian that have, you know, seen it all and done it all before. I think it's easy for them to play a certain style of you know instructions from the coach, like they are more kind of like tactical, even when a similar was like the powers of Europe. It was this same kind of old debt of players, yeah, old kind of players, and Inter was able to, you know like, destroy teams with them, because when they play with a system, maturity, too, you know, sidorff knows that Kaka is always going to be here this time and Nizag is running into this place at that time.
Speaker 1:Because that is how they follow instructions, younger player they are. They're kind of like it's it's. It's more difficult, right, to coach them because you have to keep. You know, sometimes they just go there, they want to dribble or they want to do one thing. Like you know, they house back in in the Champions League and all that experienced player will know will not do such a thing right. So he works for them. That's why to coach a squad like Milan, like you need a special kind of manager and purely is not that guy. I'm telling you, like we're going to win games because we have a very good team, I'm not surprised we're even second, you know, because we have the talents you very familiar. You have Pio Hernandez. Like you have some of the best players in the world, like not even in the world in their position currently at AC Milan. So with that kind of team making second place, even if I coach AC Milan today, you don't need anything special, fair enough, exactly exactly in fact, so so that's what we need.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I don't think we even need a coach. Serve in the bench, serve right.
Speaker 1:Purely came to AC Milan at the point in time where there was fires everywhere, right, and he has helped us quell those fires. You know, the team is, you know, now trying to gel, but he's not that guy to take us in the next step, for that. No, actually it's not a joke, milan, is that one is at the very high level compared to where we were at the Pantheira.
Speaker 3:We are. We've gone past that phase.
Speaker 2:Now we need to take the next you see your model of operation right Model is a random. Yeah, the way you guys, the way AC Milan operates, our model of signing, our business approach. You know it's not at the level where you think, oh, I want to go get maybe John Club, for example, I want to go get the. That's not how it works because it kind of applies that way we're signing. There are players that need time to develop. So then sometimes need to sorry. Sorry, can I?
Speaker 3:ask you a question.
Speaker 1:And your mind. I've told you, I've told you that I've said it before in the other group that it's a club signing players that a coach does not know how to play and that coach is not resigning, then you have a problem. Well, I'm sorry, you cannot, you cannot, you cannot tell me that if Simonisa knows that signing Bisec, I'm not going to play this guy. I don't even know how to use this guy and then you cannot go there and have to sign Bisec.
Speaker 1:You put them in the bench. Yeah, that player in the bench, like the club. Then the lesson that if you sign a player that I don't know what to do with this player, I'm going to bench this player Absolutely.
Speaker 3:And my ass, I said hey, hey, so, but you? But this is the thing, though Dave would tell me that purely is great at developing young talent. And then yet, when I look across the board again.
Speaker 2:Like he just said, great at developing young talent, because that's the way AC Milan mode works.
Speaker 3:Wait now, let me explain now. But then I look across the board that all the AC Milan so-called same Dave will be complaining how they are so inconsistent. They are this one, they are that one. I kind of I'm wondering what is the development here we're talking about? Because Rafael Leal, one minute, is the best player in the world. The next minute, rafael Leal, she shipped back to Portugal on a boat. Then Malik Teal, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, that's you the next minute. I don't have anything against Rafael Leal.
Speaker 3:What I want to say is not good, purely cannot develop young Chiquiz again. Right, it's a fault.
Speaker 1:You see the fitness. Wait now one minute.
Speaker 3:Adley is not good, but Adley is so good. The next minute. The next minute, tijani Reigns has a flop. He's the worst player that Milan signed this season. Oh my God, the next minute Tijani Reigns has to come. Do without him. What are you saying, guy? What I'm trying to tell you is that your so-called development coach is not really consistently developing these people. One minute Calabria is one of the best left back, right back in the world. Oh, the next minute, you throw Calabria in the boat.
Speaker 3:Basically, the coach. What is the job of the coach here? Because it's not. Because if I watch if I watch, let's say, in Tamil Nadu, somebody like Barela, I know exactly what he's going to offer, whether he scores a goal, he doesn't score a goal. We know his job on the team right, so we're not going to come out. The coach will never hear his agate come out and say Barela needs to score more goals because he's not doing his job. Well, because Barela is doing what the coach wants from him. When you have Chiquiz they have told you this before or you have Reinders, your coach is coming out and saying Reinders needs to score more goals, and then some Milan fans are carrying it on their head and saying he's a flop because he's not scoring goals. Meanwhile, you're looking at the boy going. The guy is the only good thing going on in your mid-suit, really and he's doing the job he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1:What's that boy? A player, and you see for yourself this guy.
Speaker 2:Do you know that today's victory, actually Puyoli set the record today, the 25th to one point for Milan and he tied up with Calo Acelotti. Do you know that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:Dave, Dave, I've told you, with these players that we have, I'm a bargain.
Speaker 2:This guy doesn't have the material that Calo Acelotti had.
Speaker 3:I would say that it doesn't have the same material. Tell me if it's the same quality of league. Secondly, look at Milan. What do you see every day from Milan that makes you believe even this Europa League, that we're playing? Leo, right, you see Europa League, we're playing. When you watch other people play Europa League, I watch Liverpool play and you watch. I'm not saying we're comparing to Liverpool. You watch other teams. You know how solid this thing is. Milan is playing.
Speaker 3:Slava Braga Braga with one man down and we're there because Moog is left and right, and then when we play serious teams, all will happen. That's how we went out of the Champions League Fully in a group that really Dortmund is not that crazy. They're not that great.
Speaker 1:They're not that great.
Speaker 3:Look at Newcastle, they're not that great. And then Puyoli the way he managed the first few games of that Champions League basically threw away the whole team by playing Popega PSG said it was good in form.
Speaker 1:at that point they were picking up form, but then he went for it Just wow.
Speaker 3:And I guess what you did? Instead of playing, you go for the very first game, very first game of the season.
Speaker 3:You play Popega and Ruben Loftišić and Krunic in midfield because you're scared of Newcastle. See your coach. See, let me tell you something, mia. I told you before I don't like talking about him because he's a waste of energy. I know where we'll finish. We'll finish second and we'll lose in the quarterfinals or semi-finals of the Europa League. I'll go back to having nothing and one trophy. One trophy in four or five years. Let's keep healing him. He's doing a great job. That's what I'm telling Dave that he should keep praying. As.
Speaker 2:I've said before right Keep wishing, if we all know that, we all know that, we all know.
Speaker 1:This is it here.
Speaker 2:Again, this is a new chapter for Milan in terms of squad in general and in terms of the plan and the future of the management and Milan as a whole. Again, if this is a new chapter and Milan and Purely is definitely the one that started it you have to respect the fact that this project is something that we'll need at least two years or two, three years, before we actually see the benefit of what we're doing right now. Simple as that Two more trophy-less years. But anyways, I think I don't know the deal right. I feel like, whatever decision that will be made on Purely's future, I think it's already been done anyways.
Speaker 2:We're just waiting for two more months for them to start, yeah, and I'm just hoping that, to be honest, whoever comes in, just someone who has this sort of high level of performances that most Milan fans are expecting from coaches, right To be able to handle these players and again get them going to the high level and bring us tighters and stuff. But to be honest, I'm going to be real, I don't think any coaches that come. We have to come and start a fresh game right, which means that they will tell you everything that Milan has been doing. Technically. That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:You don't have to start a fresh. We have a foundation of a few good players, right? He just needed Like. For me, all I ask he purely develops some tactical awareness and structure and has consistency in how he deploys his players, then guess what? He can bring Milan's coach forever. But I feel like the guy does not want to learn anything new, like he's just stuck in whatever he's been doing. Other coaches are evolving and growing and coming up with innovation. He's just playing, so he'll keep playing.
Speaker 2:Let's just talk about this game.
Speaker 1:You asked me a question. Sometimes you're like what would it take for me to say, purely just say yeah, remember what you said. I told you if he can win the Lopali then I would say, ok, maybe he can keep his job. The reason why I said that was because it's for him to go all the way to win the Lopali. That would show that he can manage a little bit of consistency in a competition. He doesn't have it. I know he can't do that. I'm wishing him badly, leo. Can I be rude?
Speaker 2:It's just not purely. If, purely, he wins the Europa League, he will not stay still. He will not even give him more reasons to resign, because at least he knows that he has done something, he has achieved it. He will probably go and look for other challenges somewhere else.
Speaker 3:To be honest, yeah he will tattoo that too. The only two trophies that he will probably get in his life Coach's that win a lot. They don't tattoo because their body will be filled with tattoo. The ones that barely win, that Can imagine.
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 3:Every time he wins the trophy, he just tattoo all over his body.
Speaker 2:I think trophy means he has different men to different people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this one is best for purely. It's the best and only for purely.
Speaker 2:I don't think he is just to say If purely he works out of Milan tomorrow, there are jobs waiting for him, and I'm not talking about top class jobs. These are not just any of our jobs.
Speaker 1:If Paike always wants that coaching, there will be jobs for him.
Speaker 2:There will be jobs for him. Because I haven't asked you this question?
Speaker 3:before. Can I ask you the question again? If purely says he is leaving Milan, do you think it seems like Liverpool or Bayern Munich will go and pick purely up as their coach?
Speaker 2:So funny man.
Speaker 1:Dave said Napoli is the one to coach.
Speaker 3:See Napoli.
Speaker 1:That needs Napoli is the one to coach for me to say penalty, for me to say penalty, I hope.
Speaker 2:Anyways.
Speaker 3:So, guys, guys, guys, let's talk about Napoli, in my own opinion, is police level. It's okay. I'm not surprised that they are being linked with Napoli. I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't even want it to go to Napoli, they would just mess it up.
Speaker 3:No, but okay, sorry. But Leo, what I'm getting at is, they've always put Spioli in his mind in this top, top, top place. I've just asked him a very simple question Will Bayam Mounik, or what's it called Liverpool, right? Liverpool's coach is leaving. I've asked I joke that he should actually go take that job Because they play similar style of football. You think that's who they will go and give the job. No, because you know why? Because your boy is not that coach. But I can guarantee you now, if he's in Zaghi, he's free tomorrow. Bayam is looking for a coach. They will seriously consider in Zaghi, if not even probably give him the job, because I'm trying to tell you that the truth of the matter is you don't see it, the person you have as a coach is just coaching. Other people are innovating and they are moving forward. They are doing things that are mind-boggling.
Speaker 2:It's so funny how you say all these things and it doesn't matter. I am telling you, Pioli plays a huge role in the development of a lot of young players, a lot of players in Milan Rafa Liar, who's been Rafa Liar today.
Speaker 3:He's worked with Stefano Pioli, Sorry sorry, let me correct that you know what I'm saying. Pioli was available around Milan when a lot of players took giant steps forward. Because when you keep saying he developed, somehow he forgot to develop players when he got to a few other players. That's the problem, you have.
Speaker 2:So the fact that what you said is so funny. How many players have made those big leap?
Speaker 3:Can I ask you a simple question? Here's my simple question for you. I want to know my simple question. So, milan, if Pioli has been in Milan for like 5 years almost 4 years, 2019-2020 or something like that tell me name how many players in your mind he has developed. Count them Are you serious bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm trying to ask you the question you know what I'm asking you, because I will count the ones that, according to you, he has not developed, that has either left the team or they are basically useless in the team, really so you want to do a simple ratio. Because?
Speaker 2:yes, because if you develop players, you know, I don't think I should even be answering that question, to be honest, because the record speaks for itself. I ask you a simple question.
Speaker 3:Every time you call Rafael Leal and Theo Hernandez, as though Theo Hernandez was not actually a good player before Pioli. The only problem is he was not a consistent player. He grew up, he matured under Pioli. I can give you that Pioli maybe helped him, maldini helped him. Same with Rafael Leal, if Bra came, they helped, they matured. But think about it since those guys left.
Speaker 2:All these players that you're talking about Sandro Tonali, all these guys we are you.
Speaker 3:Let's back up Sandro Tonali. The first season he came did not do well. One year he did well with what is his name Kessie next to him right the next year. After Kessie left, sandro Tonali, we all said the same thing he was a liability and Milan showed him so again. Where did his development? Did he talk?
Speaker 2:about no, no, no, no, no, no. Like I'm asking you, can you just stop there? Milan showed Tonali because he's a liability.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I did not say that, that's what you just said now. No, I said you and I called him a liability. Leo, you too.
Speaker 2:I never called Tonali a liability. He was a liability last season.
Speaker 1:He wasn't consistent. He wasn't at his best last season.
Speaker 2:So he showed a liability.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that means in your math he played three seasons at Milan, only one.
Speaker 2:He had consistent good season, the very first season, the very first season he came to Milan. That was his development, like he literally struggled that first season.
Speaker 3:Which I mean. And he wasn't the only person. Sorry, let me explain. He wasn't the only person that came to Milan. He struggled his first season. That was his second year. The second year is his good year to one. Oh, that was his first season. No, no, the second year was his good year to one.
Speaker 2:The second year was his better one.
Speaker 3:He did okay in his second season and then struggled in his third season, so he purely developed him.
Speaker 2:He did. No, I'm telling you now how much did Milan? Isn't this the?
Speaker 3:question you're asking me. We brought him Franks purely, developed him and threw him out after a year. We brought him Alexi Salamaka as he developed him for two years, won a league with him and threw him away. We brought him CDK. He developed him and then sent him away to Atlanta Anybody who brings him to develop him. We brought him to QQZ. He's developing QQZ.
Speaker 2:How many players has passed through Milan? How many players has passed through Milan? You're just making fun of me, because all this is what you're calling there. You and I know that all these players that you mentioned first of all, how many of them are really really?
Speaker 3:Do you know what development Milan is? When you develop a player, that player is supposed to still be at your home. Is that what you're supposed to still be at your club, contributing for you? That's not right, I'm telling you now, if the player is not contributing for you. I disagree with you. Every player. I disagree.
Speaker 2:I disagree 100%. Every player that's left Milan, that's left Stefano Pugli, but I said Milan in between some periods. Half of those players, what does Milan want to keep them? Milan wanted to keep them, but there were salary issues.
Speaker 3:Pugli also developed. I'm sure he developed Hakan and let him go Right.
Speaker 2:Pugli and some management of Milan are still mad that Hakan left Milan. Do you know why? Because they couldn't start a deal to keep him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the point I'm making is, hakan, you see, today is because Pugli developed him he's not trying to tell you the Brahim Diaz on that and Solotti is because, according to you, pugli developed him the same Brahim that a year ago. If I come into the US and I were wondering, what are you saying? You know there was a. We need a CDM, sorry, we need an attacking mid because we he would Brahim Diaz himself.
Speaker 2:He would Brahim Diaz himself.
Speaker 3:Actually gave credit to Pugli for what he did for him. Okay, then Pugli did play a developer. You know why he won, like you won it. He's developing everybody. So that means you have hope for what's his name Chukwizi, because there's no need to panic. Eventually, if you do Chukwizi, you'll pick it Just when CDK comes back. Right, can we talk? About most of this We'll talk about most of this.
Speaker 1:We're the player development team. I just want to add something, because this argument always comes in who did purely develop and who didn't develop? Player development is a myriad of things, right. Aside from what the coach is doing, there is also the player himself. Like what are you contributing to your development? It's like we're all jobs, right, like your manager will always tell you that your performance at the end of the day is your particular fish to fry, because you also have to put in your own impute into your own performance.
Speaker 1:So if a player comes in and decides to be lazy, I will not play it on Pugli, right. But if I see that a player is young and is trying to put in the work but the coach is playing him in different positions or different formations for example, what happened with CDK you could, somebody could be right to say, okay, maybe Pugli did not actually help this guy in development at Milan because he played him in a different position from his natural abilities, right. So? But if a player is struggling like Chico Eze he's a right winger, he's playing the right wing I may only complain that he's not getting enough games for him to fully develop. But if he's getting games where he has to play that position and he's not putting in the work to actually bring that result we all want to see from him, then nobody should limp you. That's my own thinking.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you. Anyways, let's talk about the end-pulling game today, because I saw a lot of positives in the game today, which is basically, for example, pugli's switch has been really doing well and the fact that he's been playing this long stretch of games and hasn't been injured, I think, is what I really admire about the whole way it's been managed so far.
Speaker 1:It's credit to Pugli.
Speaker 3:No, it's credit to Pugli for a fact.
Speaker 1:Come on, come on, Chin.
Speaker 2:Who should get?
Speaker 3:the credit. Chin, what Leo just said applies. It's the same thing Players are partly responsible for their own physical well-being, right, and the coaching staff also managing the player, right. Because if you're going to give him credit, remember that this in Milan just a few months ago, we had an injury crisis. So when I was telling you that it was partly the coach's fault, you said no, so don't give him credit for health when you don't want to give him credit for no health. I'm just saying you have to give him the credit where it's due. So when the 22 players had muscular injuries, you should tell him say yeah, yeah, the coach is not doing a good job Now that maybe nobody has muscular injuries and Pugli's is healthy.
Speaker 3:I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, if you go and pull a hamstring somewhere and then you will not say, yeah, this one, that one, that one. My point is, if you give purely credit for managing Pugli's itch right, that means he has not been managing the other players right, and it can be true. Same thing can be true for different players. You know why? Maybe because he can manage Pugli's itch, because he has options and he understands how to use Pugli's itch in his positions and whatever, and all that guys in that position. But maybe he struggles with trust in the position, like, say, tomorrow's position right, where he wants to run tomorrow to the ground because he doesn't trust the next guy to step in. That's misusing tomorrow. Or similarly, maybe in midfield he has trust issues with certain players, so he doesn't want to play with them and he will run certain guys to the ground. You get my point.
Speaker 1:One thing I have wondered is why he hasn't thought of playing Pugli's itch as attacking midfielder, so that way we could play Pugli's itch and Choukou's in the same game.
Speaker 3:Or that coach is invent, we will just play.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. I think, Just for thought there's a reason.
Speaker 1:I see he doesn't do that AM job very well. He has this virginity in his game that he should be more deep-lying, right? I understand what you mean. It can be a deep-lying box-to-box kind of midfielder for AMF. It doesn't cut it for me. It's not afraid to drive with the ball and he draws fouls. Those are double players that can do well in AMF right. Just keep drawing those fouls for you and running into spaces and you know I don't know.
Speaker 2:There's a reason why Loftus-Chick is playing in that role, though, to be honest, because in the midfield of 3, right, you have what when I say you have Rangers and you have Loftus-Chick, and I feel like the physicality that is needed in that midfield is only Loftus-Chick that brings that sort of characteristics, and I feel like that's the reason why people really rely on him a lot in terms of his movement and stuff and also the ability of him being able to score goals too.
Speaker 2:Don't forget that Loftus-Chick is where he has scored like 4-6-7 goals so far this season, and again he's a player that is good on air and again he's a player that can really drag the ball from tight spaces in terms of using his physicality to shoot himself and get the ball into six spaces, and also, like, to be honest, I like his decision-making too. It might not be the best in terms of decision-making, but at least I think whenever the attack is coming from him, he focuses more on the assist than trying to score goals like the other players in the attack and stuff. So that's one of the more important things.
Speaker 1:What you're describing will suit a box-to-box kind of player. It does Like this guy in Merriman-Brother, bellingham. The way he scores goals. You think he's a striker or something, but he's just a box-to-box misfeeder. If they're attacking he's up there, if they're defending he's back. So I think RLC is more still for that kind of play. But then I don't know, I'm not a coach.
Speaker 2:Because to me to go now, I picture what you're saying. Right, the police has been playing in that attack.
Speaker 1:He should go, right yeah the police is in AMF, I know, but I don't think he will be strong enough the way he's playing fouls, the way he's getting people red cards and all that.
Speaker 2:I don't think he will be strong enough Because half of the time, like he loves to shoot you, sometimes he just gives, he lends his services to you, yeah, the idea was not so strong, he was being muscled off.
Speaker 1:But on those games, on those days, you see that spark, right, like those days where Diaz is in form and he's bossing it in that AMF, you see how well we play, right. Think of those games where Diaz was there and doing well. But this season I haven't really seen any creativity coming from that AMF position. It's always our guys from the wings, leiawa and his magic and you know police siege on the other side. But we haven't really seen that you know midfield kind of play that we're used to getting, like when we have a counterattack and somebody will just drive the ball.
Speaker 1:What do you guys think of the rotation today? Well, I think the Oka for coming in for the hour was kind of forced because of the suspension, right. So he had to, you know, make that change. So I don't really want to give him credit for that because you know he had no choice right. But for the other one that I was surprised seeing Jovic instead of Giroud and you know I just felt like, yeah, if you're going to make this kind of change, it's simply at home, why not? Right? There's no risk to that and it could also purely for making those decisions and bringing in these players. You could see how it's boosting your confidence already and you know, even for the rest of the team, like the other guys that are more of like the natural starters, the, you know, abuse team dynamics. When the second guys go in and get the results and the whole team looks good, like nobody's bashing the team because they did not play right, so which is good. And the players themselves, they stepped up Aside from Calabria, I don't know, for some reason.
Speaker 3:Oh, I was going to say, like I think Calabria, like I think we should ship him off to South Italy, like put him on the boat, just forget, don't put GPS on the boat, let it just go. Because I honestly see, this is the thing that Dave will say here.
Speaker 1:I've been developed.
Speaker 3:I'm not even saying anything anymore. I don't want to talk. He has been developed, that's all. Now they signed Territiano, right? Territiano was supposed to come in and do a job, but he went and gave away a penalty.
Speaker 2:That's how they ship him off now. No, no, no, I don't think he has to. He has to, he has to play. Since then, though, okay, I'm just telling you, like you don't see it right now, because we have a full team now, right, like you know, we have all our players back now. I mean, if not, or at least most of them back now from injury.
Speaker 3:So this is when we get to judge the team right.
Speaker 2:It's going to be time for players like Territiano to be getting minutes.
Speaker 3:to be honest, I mean how would he get minutes when you just said we got all our players back the hierarchy? He does not fall in the hierarchy because number one is what's his name? Calabria, for Florencia has been assisting a lot these days. It's almost as though Florencia has become the number one rather than Calabria yeah. And then so Territiano might not even get any minutes at all, and then next year we'll come back in and we'll do it all over again, and then we start calling him flop at some point.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. That's how we should do it. That's not a flop. It's no, no, no, honestly.
Speaker 1:Milan is going to the market and get the proper ride back, that's a thing we have, like we have few. If we have a proper ride back, we have more, better options, right.
Speaker 3:I thought that was why they signed the Territiano Calabria.
Speaker 1:Calabria. Calabria could have gotten two goals today if he was a Fubola.
Speaker 3:Fubola, Fubola.
Speaker 1:That.
Speaker 3:Calabria. Calabria is Dave's boy. It's Dave's boy. Cap two, capitano To answer your question.
Speaker 1:good, good rotation. I'm so happy for you and for the team that they got that win, Because each time you rotate like that, you also want to get the results right, Because that would give you the confidence to do it again.
Speaker 3:But okay, Zamboliu, you know what was unique about today's rotation versus the other ones? The last time he rotated against Monsad, you know what he did he put Liao Giroud Pulisic on the bench and expected something. Today, the only real change was really Oka for coming in right. And then Jovic, jovic, yeah, yeah, jovic. So it's two out of what, two out of three, not the whole three of them, right?
Speaker 1:So I remember there was a game. I think Tomerri started the game today. Yeah, tomerri started the game, so defensively.
Speaker 3:Usually you don't have too much problems in the defense. It's attacking creativity and how they mix together. That's where the issue comes. It reminds me of the time there was a game we played I can't remember that was one of the horrible games. Again, he played Oka for Chukwaze and Jovic, or something like that. Right, it's like, okay, what are you trying to accomplish here? Do the rotation wisely.
Speaker 3:Rafa Liao has just said today because of suspension. So next time you can rest Pulisic if you're playing a small team, right, and then the other time you rest Giroud and play. You know Liao, jovic and what is his name? Pulisic. That is how Monsad's coach is. Go watch Manchester City. This is what they rotate Among their defense, among their forwards. That is how they rotate it. Some players don't ever bench right, they don't ever rest, but the other guys, he just he played one game today. He played another game tomorrow. He played 15 minutes here. He played 10 minutes here. You know what I mean. Later on to everybody, it's feeling satisfied.
Speaker 3:Our own rotation you know what Pulisic would do. He would play Liao all the time and then he would go and meet one small team Automatically. He assumes that Chukwaze had learned how to play football. Then he would now play Chukwaze, oka for, and then Jovic, and then half time he would now stop all of them. After he stopped all of them, and then be surprised. And then, to even make matters worse, you're not going to meet him. They threw him back and there, just for you know to even make.
Speaker 2:I have a question for you, because this chain, I'm tired of you, man. So if you look at Lovtus Chikwai, based on his record in the past, he's a very injury-prone player. Right, Bobina Mila? The comment that Pulisic both of them made, or something about him, was that he realized that he has to train less, Overloading him with a lot of training and stuff. Right, he said that he figured out that he only wanted to keep him healthy and stuff. Now, like, looking at that sort of perspective right In our midfield in the way this team is going now, do you think like he has figured out the injury issues, or you feel like we just, you know, might go into that same sort of you know, spine of injuries like we had at the beginning of this?
Speaker 3:Leo, before you answer my question, I'll just make one comment. Every footballer right, Every athlete right, will benefit greatly from less training time. Okay, Almost every single one of them, except the ones that love working out in the gym. They don't want to play 11-aside football in training and they play 11-aside football the next day again, right? So I'm just making that thing known. So, one of the best known ways in the NBA they call it load management, One of the best known ways of helping players reduce injury is by reducing their training time, because you can't stop them from playing the games, you just manage their minutes in training.
Speaker 3:If your coach is just realizing that this is how you reduce injury, praise the Lord, because that might actually save Milano, Like it might save the rest of the season, because I'm suspecting. Remember, Leo, you used to say they go to training and they do 11-v-11. And then they run and then they play football. I want you to enjoy everybody every time. So automatically he's like, okay, well, let me give police, not police. Ruben lost his cheek, let's train in time. Well, do the same thing for someone like Seyra, Feliah or anybody else and say, hey, alternate, Some days you get what they call maintenance days you don't get to train right, you just relax because you play the big game against PSG. The daddy and you worked hard, so just get a little bit of time off one day, two days to rest your body. But no, I'm sure he'll probably throw them again to go and do 11v11, because that's what he does. But anyways, I just had to add that. Thank you for pointing the table, Leo. Go ahead and answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, chin. I kind of agree with what you're saying. Managing that fatigue is crucial. So to answer your question, dave, I think purely has. Even though he learns his lessons in a very, very hard way, I think he's beginning to do more rotations. I was happy to see Gabi come back from Villarreal and get his slot into that defense put in some solid performances as well.
Speaker 1:I still think in some departments we are still very aware of the setting key players that for some reason they can't be benched. I won't blame, purely because the quality gap between whoever is coming in for them is quite huge. You saw it today when Leo was sitting on the bench. But for other positions, like the striking position, I don't see why Villarreal has to start every game. Most times he's fit, he always starts and sometimes he doesn't give that 100% right Because you could tell age is there, it's catching up with him. So I want to see more of the rotation around the striking position. I give Jovic more playing time. That's why I was happy to see that Jovic started today. He didn't get a goal, but it's still okay. At least we didn't lose the game and you can still bring in Jero in the second half if he comes to that.
Speaker 2:I'll just direct this question to you right away who are your top-side flops, please, in this last game, in this Ampoli game?
Speaker 1:For the Ampoli game. Number one, I'll say I give it to Okafor. Okafor really did good. You could see the hustle, you could see the fire. He made that run and gave the pass to Pulisic to score the goal. Second top is the man that got the goal himself, mr Fantastic Pulisic. Yet another impressive day for him. He made those fantastic runs, drew lots of fouls from the open ends and he's been doing good. And your flop? I'll do that About the two For flop. Calabria is up there. I'll just say just Calabria, because he's been terrible to watch lately. But the fact that he's one of the old guys, that he's like a captain, I'm disappointed to watch him. Honestly, it's painful to watch Calabria play. For some reason they keep extending his contracts. Each time I see that news I just get angry. But yeah, who are your top-side flops?
Speaker 3:They keep extending his contract because he's not fully developed yet He'll get there. My tops and flops are exactly Leo's, because I honestly don't have any other flops other than Calabria. Calabria should not be playing football with FAC Milan Like he should be playing for teams like Rosinoni and those kind of people. That's where I'm not joking. The fact that I'm subjected to watching. It's like watching Krunich all over again. I feel like, maybe because Krunich is no longer there, I moved my wahala now to someone like him Because he shouldn't be there. Like his first touch, he's so poor he can't even run. He's shooting his poor, crossing, his poor. Nothing is there. But according to you, dave, you mentioned before that when he comes back from injury, calabria, he's always way off form and then over time he will stab you in himself back up. My problem is, if you want to take that next step, you have to get rid of the coach and play as Calabria, because you can be competing against Milan when Inter is throwing what's it called Denzel Donfries and DiMarco on you.
Speaker 3:You're throwing Calabria? Why would we be losing 6 or 7 straight derbies? You're throwing Calabria as captain. I'm banned. He was down there before me, captain, captain, Anyways those are my top some floor.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute, I'm just going to add a couple of names to it, and first of all tomorrow, I feel like you have to add tomorrow, because that's what that side contract you have.
Speaker 3:Top five.
Speaker 1:Top five.
Speaker 3:Top five is right there. Look, we both. And who is he? He's there. So I remember when Dave said that and I told him in Milan, I'm not in the city of Milan. Tomorrow itself might be competing for top four or so in Jordan's last city alone, without going out of the city, talk less of the entire Sierra Ana. And now you go to other leagues.
Speaker 2:This guy, you are high, no, I think the level of You're level of the step up is game anyways. But anyway, I just want to allow Tomori to return to this very important and I think I'm happy that he actually started his game because we need him on Thursday. We need him against Slavia Parahau.
Speaker 1:Oh guys, we totally forgot about Mike. I think we should give him Exactly.
Speaker 2:And Mike is on my second name.
Speaker 1:He's been licking goals lately, the fact that he kept the key sheets. He's licking the key sheets.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I would say, if we can get Mike Tomori and. Malik Chiao. If we can get them in good form, I think we'll just have to go to the NCAA. To be honest, and my second flop actually is Malik Chiao. He's still shaky. I feel like he needs to fully get his confidence back.
Speaker 3:Yo, I hope you can keep extending the same regard you extend to a lot of all these so-called young players To Malik Chiao. The kid is still young, like two years ago. Yeah, the year ago he was playing Division II football. Don't start judging him, because you and all these people like Peole that's how you throw away players. The next minute, you will now go and become one of the best defenders in Europe and then we'll be wondering what happened? Anyways, becoming down, anyways, slavia, parahau People usually throw away Calabria.
Speaker 2:We'll see Calabria.
Speaker 3:We'll see him finish. Let's talk about that. There's nothing left with.
Speaker 2:Calabria, please, that game is going to be important because I don't think it's going to be an easy game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct, that game is going to be a battle. It's not going to be a battle. It's going to come. It's easy for them to play that two-goal's deficit.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:One penalty that will be a seed. That's not even a penalty. The referee has given it and they have scored it, and maybe one defender error.
Speaker 3:We need to be sweet-tongued in this game All through the 90 minutes, so we need to be focused.
Speaker 2:My question, though, is we're going with two-goal advantage, right? How do you think Milan should approach this game? Because, again, those guys will come into Milan, so they'll straddle.
Speaker 1:Don't be conservative. I'm not saying grand play, pack the boss, no, be conservative in your approach, but go for the killer. You need that one, that first goal, or you score a goal to at least give yourself like okay, yes, now it's going to be a game, right, even if the equalizer is like come on, time is going and you can see who you are.
Speaker 3:See the problem you guys have got.
Speaker 1:With the mindset of that, oh, I will protect this, because that was how they went to. Was that game? The other people played Rent, Rent. They went oh, we have the three-goals cushion, it's going to be a walk in the park and you know, it almost went south right. So they shouldn't go with that mindset that they are going to.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you the problem is that you're asking a coach that does not know how to play cup games to go and play cup games. I've told you before that the only time I've seen purely do something miraculous like that is when he parked the bus against Turkey, amherstwa and Napoli last season. Other than that, like the guy who goes there, he will open, open, like open. You know, do the same thing, he does and you shock, you go, shock you. Well, I hope that Milan escapes and this is not where I expect them to lose. Like, if you want to lose, lose with dignity. Don't be losing with the younger brother of a slayer, a Sparta Prague or whatever it's called. Like you know, lose to the legitimate team. If you lose to Liverpool, I understand. If you lose to like one of the big teams in the day, I understand. If you lose to this one, maybe they should just fire up earlier on the spot. Like take his passports.
Speaker 2:Anyways, quick question, please. I'll start from you. What's the prediction?
Speaker 3:Well, I think it's to be a draw. A draw, yeah, 2-2-1-1. Yeah, something like that, something like 2-2. Milan will lose 2-1 or something like that and narrowly escape from there.
Speaker 2:Anyways, what about you, Leo?
Speaker 1:I think we may lose 2-1, or it's to be a draw as well.
Speaker 3:Those guys can play the way they were playing at the San Francisco already.
Speaker 1:They are good. They are good.
Speaker 2:Brasi Milan will lose 2-1 or something.
Speaker 1:Have you ever made a prediction that was not 2-1?
Speaker 3:You have Wait, wait, leo, as he made a prediction that was not 2-1, let me take a guess. Jun is called the game winner.
Speaker 1:Of course it's Jun and you forget if you are going to their backyard. We told their fans going crazy, I know, I know.
Speaker 3:And they have 11 players.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they are the ref Each time a player makes these clumsy tackles I think it's an achievable task.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 3:As long as Calabria does not play, I'm okay. It's still a bit difficult game.
Speaker 1:And it's possible because UEFA is a very crazy organization. It's possible that the ref who want to do it you kind of equalize that right. Milan will be getting a red card in the first 15 or 20 minutes.
Speaker 3:What are they equalizing? The guy that was the clear red card last week? I don't know what they are equalizing.
Speaker 1:I know it's a clear red card, but if we make stupid challenges, like what that guy did, we will get a red card as well. Like Adly, exactly that's what I'm saying. Some of those clumsy tackles that we make. That's why he's tackling like this. Now, come on, the guy hasn't even played for the B2 yet, so we will join up.
Speaker 3:It's been nice catching up with you guys though it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2:Actually, I think we should connect again after the Europa League and just do a quick review before the weekend game Chain. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Are we going to know the next side we're going to face after Slavia?
Speaker 3:I think they might have to do the draw on Monday or something After the Champions League round is done.
Speaker 1:I would take. The next meeting should be when we know our next opponent. Not come out. And we beat Slavia.
Speaker 2:Prague. I don't want to make the Vapuna, but if they leave we'll do Vapocomps. I mean, anything can happen. Thank you so much, chain. Thank you, leo, it's been a pleasure chatting with you guys. Forza Milano and you have a wonderful week. Yeah, thank you guys.
Speaker 3:Thank you, stay safe. Okay, bye, bye, thanks guys for that, milan Bye.
