Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
A Deep Dive into Fonseca's AC Milan In Europe And Serie A Amid Defensive Concerns
AC Milan’s 2021-22 Serie A victory was a thrilling high, but maintaining that momentum has been far from straightforward. We're ecstatic to have Leo back with us as we untangle the complex web of emotions surrounding Milan's recent performances, from a breathtaking win against Real Madrid to a perplexing 3-3 draw with Cagliari. What’s the secret behind these dramatic swings? Listen as we break down how tactical decisions, like doubling up on key opponents, have shaped the narrative and emphasize the universal truth in football: never underestimate any opponent.
The defense, however, tells another story—a cautionary tale of squandered opportunities and unheeded warnings. Milan's backline has been porous, conceding glaring chances that even the average fan can spot. Join us as we critique the reliance on sheer talent versus teamwork and question whether it's the players or the system to blame.
Finally, we address the inconsistency and mental fragility that could thwart their journey, urging Milan to rise above and protect their hallowed legacy. Tune in for an insightful look at the crossroads Milan faces and what it will take to reclaim their glory.
The Rossoneri Renaissance is complete After 11 years.
Speaker 2:Once again, milan are the champions of Italy. It's they who wear the crown for the 2021-22 season. Hello everyone, this is Davin Chin Talk Milan, and we are back again, but guess what this time? Who's on board? Our special guest, leo Leo.
Speaker 1:I'm back again.
Speaker 2:Whenever Leo shows up for this podcast like this, there's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1:No, I thought they banished me because of Pioli.
Speaker 3:After you successfully fired Pioli, after I made my feelings about Pioli.
Speaker 1:So after you successfully fired Pioli. Dave, after I made my feelings about Pioli, you can play. Well, chin, how are you doing?
Speaker 3:man, I'm good. I'm good, dave. Leo, nice to have you on board today. Dave has finally forgiven you. You know, pioli is doing well in Saudi Arabia. Ponseca beat Madrid, so his life is all green and rosy. So he wants you to come and talk about.
Speaker 2:you know everything, everything happening in Milan world you know, remember, like I said last week, right, every time I'm hopping on this podcast to talk about Milan recently, it's always a mix of emotion, to be honest. So I don't even know how to explain myself, if I should be happy that we had a very good game during the midweek and then we met a relegation team, technically Kaliari, and drew 3-3. Like, come on man, like, how could you be considering three goals against Kaliari, bro? I don't understand.
Speaker 1:I think it's the same arrogance I'm showing now. That's the same arrogance that we took to Sardinia. I'm glad our asses were handed to us by Kaliari Well, I'm going to ask this handed to us by Cagliari? Well, I know. Yeah, you have to respect every single team you come across, especially in the Serie A, because the truth is that you know, at the end of the day, it all boils down to the kind of football you play. Like, if you want to show you're superior, like, let it show your game right, we're not sure, because you're a big club and all of that. Like, look at what they're doing to Roma this season. Like, these clubs, they don't care. Like, if you're not playing good, you know they're going to take this point away from you.
Speaker 2:They'll punish you Anyways, you know what? Before we go in the midweek right Against Real Madrid? Because before that podcast someone predicted that we're going to lose 3-1. And at least that gave us the benefit of doubt and I said we're going to draw 2-2.
Speaker 3:So, to my credit, you will call the ones that I called out to, for instance, that tomorrow he was going to be chasing Mbappe and he can't catch Mbappe.
Speaker 1:That's what I said it to.
Speaker 3:Secondly, who called out that? I said that Emasi Roya will consider the penalty and he considered the penalty. So the funny thing is, the game against Cagliari is what I expected Milan to play against Real Madrid, but the unfortunate thing is the Real Madrid players decided that they are going to stroll through. Just they had an arrogance. You know that basically Milan had against Cagliari right. So at the end of the day, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you, please, what really went right for us in that game. Let's be real.
Speaker 3:I think it's Real Madrid that went right for Milan. Oh, no, because. So you know why I say it's Real Madrid that went right for Milan. So, watching the game right, I keep saying this part the Milan players are very good players, even the game against Cagliari. You could see that they have a lot of good things happening in that game, right From an attacking sense. The only difference is that Real Madrid did not show up to play, just like they didn't show up to play against Barcelona the previous week, right, and it has again.
Speaker 3:It has two teams play the game. There's a team called Madrid, and then there's a team called Milan and Madrid, and then there's a team called Milan and the both of them went on the field and one of them decided to show up. And then the other guys Because, leo, do you remember when I came by and I was telling you how come they're not pressing Madrid players, milan players who have the ball, they were just thrilling, right, but against Skaglar, it's like everybody will press you, they will stop running, and that's why you look like those guys look like they're struggling. So was just mostly like I'm not kidding it was mostly madrid. Their forwards did not press, their midfield did not press and the defense, I guess, struggled as a result. So it wasn't because milan didn't do anything good.
Speaker 3:Milan did what milan normally does, right. Even that game too, you could see, we gave up chances. It's just like I remember uh, what's his name? Brahim diaz had a chance, mbappe had mbappe had his mbappe chance, right, and and Mike Mian did a good job, but that's it. So, to be honest, if you think about it you just said it In between what's it called the Madrid game? Like sandwiched, there are two horrible games, because that's exactly what Milan are. So the Madrid game is more about Madrid, to be honest, rather than Milan doing anything extraordinary. That's just my take on it. Shaq, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I have a question for you, leo, please. You see, and this is more of a tactical, from a tactical perspective, right, if you notice in that Madrid game, the way he sets the team up right, doubling up on Vinicius right With Moussa and Emerson Royale, which kind of work a little bit, because I feel like that those guys, they did enough because it looked like Madrid wasn't playing, they were playing too, they were playing, they were trying hard. It's just not, and this is typical of Madrid, like them going goals down in at the Bernabeu right and then coming back with this heavy way of bullying team with the crowd and everything right and getting back on track. To be honest, though, like we were switched on all through the game. I know like we consider some chances here and there, right, but I feel like Milan did enough and Milan had a good game, like a very good game in that game, to secure the victory. Now my question to you is from tactical perspective do you think Fonseca did enough or was just Madrid not showing up that day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I think I agree with you overchain. Yeah, like I think I agree with you Roachin. Like you cannot tell me Madrid did not show up. You know they were all about the play, saying, oh, we're going to seek our revenge against Milan. You know, like they didn't give Vinicini the ball in the hole. It was like, oh, milan is going to. So they did show up it was supposed to be a sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what actually happened was that, like I said, if you're going to show up, don't show up on paper, show up on the pitch. I felt like that was a game that was won from the benches. Fonseca tactically set up Milan in such a way that you know the Real Madrid team. At that point they became confused because they were finding it difficult to break us down from either wings. It was a masterclass doubling Emerson with Moussa, because you could tell that Fonseca was not being all out to play his game, he was doing something different. Otherwise Chukwizi would have started the game and it would be like, okay, but playing Moussa on that right side, kind of like you know, made it difficult for Vini Jr to work his magic, you know. And then the way the team pressed, you know. The way the team defended as a unit, you know. And the way the team played, you know way the team defended as a unit, you know. And the way the team played, you know, with the space, you could see like when we have possession, rafael, yeah, was going to peel out and you know they would, you know, find them with the with a good pass. So overall it was not like very much did was doing us any favors and they decided not to come.
Speaker 1:No, that wasn't what happened. They did come at us, you know. Uh, the first 10, 15 minutes you could. You could tell that they were hungry, they wanted to play. But, you know, as the game wore on, when, after we got the first goal and all of that, you know tell that the players confidence started improving like they didn't like. The fear factor was no longer there, you know, and as the match progressed, we started getting more and more chances, like it would have been even more embarrassing than the first one because we missed all the chances as well that could have, you know, gotten us more goals in the game. So, overall, I felt like it's a masterclass that came from Fonseca and it was something that the team needed, because the truth is that we all know that we have a talented side, we all know that. It's just been difficult because they don't seem to produce the same results back home in Italy. Exactly Okay.
Speaker 3:So just to add to that right. So when I said it's partly Madrid, madrid as a team, right, all year they've struggled with finding balance right. I watched some of their games. I watched the game against Barcelona. The same thing that happened against Barcelona is what Milan did to them. The exact same thing. Easy to break through because they can't press the gaps are there. So, madrid, when I say it wasn't anything specific that Milan did, the reason I say that is because so, leo, you're right, doubling on Vinicius right is a great tactic with what is the Minis Moussa, because he might see Real alone with Vinicius. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:That being said, Madrid we have started with Chukwueze and Emerson.
Speaker 3:But Madrid ended that game with expected goals of 2.66. They had 23 shots and 10 shots on target. So all I'm trying to say is that, like when you say masterpiece for me, I always associate the fact that you had total control of every single thing. Right, Like, what's his name? This guy scored a goal. What's this guy's name? Rudiger? And they called it offside because Rodrigo was barely offside.
Speaker 1:Right, Rudiger, and they called it offside because Rodrigo was barely offside right, rabrahim Diaz had the header like it was offside Shane, yeah, no, no, yeah, yeah, it was offside. You know honestly?
Speaker 2:to me. I just kind of feel like all these chances that we're talking about, these are like expected chances against a team like Real Madrid.
Speaker 3:Well, this is the point I'm trying to make, because the difference between now, right, think of Milan-PSG last year Wasn't that the same thing? Milan had chances, psg had chances, milan took their chances, psg took some of their chances, but not all of it. All I'm trying to say is that the difference is that these Milan players showed up and took their chances and then the Madrid ones did not, because if Madrid took theirs and Milan took theirs, we would have ended up with a game that would have been 3-2 or 3-3, two or three, three or something like that, right? So when we say there's a masterclass, masterclass is literally locking somebody down, like what Inter Milan did to Arsenal or something like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:When you're talking about expected chances or expected goals, there's something that statistics do not consider, which is the goalkeeper's form or how good of a game the goalkeeper is having, but when you can consider an expected chance that could lead to a goal right for one goalkeeper may not necessarily lead to a goal for the other, because he's more informed. Oh, absolutely, and that's why I said Mike Mignan, the Napoli-Milan game. Yeah, the Napoli-Milan game. Mike Mignan was off form. That's why the two chances they got they scored, yeah, they scored, and we had way more chances and we did not.
Speaker 1:So why are you looking at that stat to say expected goals, no.
Speaker 3:so the reason I bring it up is because, for me, that indicates the level of chances being created in the game, right? So, at the end of the day, all I'm trying to say is that it was a great game for Milan. You guys are all right, the coach had it right, because I sat here and I said Milan was going to lose, right, and it turned out. They did not lose, and that's all we ask of. But, in terms of, actually, did Milan, like, avoid some of the issues that we're going to talk about very soon? Right, because we're going to probably talk about Cagliari, because for me, they are all the same thing in a way, because, basically, what I've seen with this Milan hasn't changed.
Speaker 3:Even though they beat Madrid, they let in too many chances is what I'm trying to say. So the score goes, but they still let the other guys have their own, and that, to me, is not a recipe for success, because all it takes is for one team to be very clinical. Because, dave, think about it, though, all year has there been a game that Milan has played, except maybe the Inter-Milan game, maybe even that one, if Inter had some chances, where you say, wow, we played this game from beginning to end and the other team did not generate premium chances against Milan. It's incredible. It's incredible. So that's just it for me. So, yes, I'm happy we beat Madrid, but then when you watch the game… Let me ask you one more question.
Speaker 2:Do you think, like… Okay, maybe it's's just I shouldn't be asking this question, but I'll just throw it in here do you think, do you think Fonseca football is more suited for Champions League than Serie A?
Speaker 3:no, why would I? Why would we think that, like they, just, they lost to Liverpool, like heavily, it was the same thing. Liverpool is Liverpool were more just, were more clinical than this like? Think about it, though which game have we played this year, dave, where you did not sit down and go? Why do we give up two to three big chances a game? I'm talking about two to three big chances. That should be goals.
Speaker 3:It's not suited for anything, for second football. It's not suited for anything, because you know why I say so. If you say Champions League, that means you're actually like a cup team, right. So you're talking about people like Mourinho or those guys that are willing to do whatever to win the cups, right, but that's not this guy. This guy cannot be giving up premium chances left and right. He says he's suited for the Champions League. Don't worry, when Madrid catch for me, we'll beat them in the second round.
Speaker 3:So all I'm trying to say is that. Let me tell you from my mind. My judgment is very simple. The aim of football is you have to prevent, like man City. You're asking me the issue of man City. Man City gives us so many chances now. And Pep? You see him. He's scratching his head, wondering what's happening. When you're a good team, you limit chances and you make chances. That's literally what it is. When you're exchanging chances, it's just a matter of one day you run into a team that actually has good finishers and then you struggle, and milan, unfortunately, this year has been that team that exchanges chances too much, and then, unfortunately, which?
Speaker 1:is, which is exactly what happened at they.
Speaker 3:They were just clinical in their finishing oh, oh, my God, those guys, eh, those goals were like Even the one, the first goal, the first goal, wow, all three goals.
Speaker 1:Because even that second goal, despite Profana's mistake. Mania tried to cover it up by trying to close down, narrow the angle, yeah, but it was too exposed. You saw how that guy sneaked the ball in from that angle. Oh, my god, it was. Those were not very easy goals to score.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this is it here, right? Because this is my concern. Because if we take this sort of inconsistency if we're talking about inconsistency of Milan, specifically domestically, right, you look at the points that they're dropping and how we're struggling, because sometimes we start this game very bad, we're not able to control the game, we lack stability in the midfield, then, even going forward, we don't have a proper plan on how to link. You see, now I was saying this before Chin. I said when Liao comes back, you will see what's going on. You're going to see the difference in our attacking and you can see. Like I'm happy he's informed now because I can tell I mean, we've talked about the whole situation of not being informed and why he isn't playing him and stuff like that, right, but the reality of the matter is the way this team is going now we will start depending on individual efforts to win games, because I don't see us playing as a team. I think we struggle as a team both in the midfield and both in the defence. Now my question is Sorry.
Speaker 3:sorry, before you ask a question, what do you mean? We'll start depending on individual effort. You said we already depend on individual effort. All the previous Against Monza, wasn't it one individual effort? Against Udinese, like all the games we've won this year, it's all individual effort that we've depended on, except maybe the game against.
Speaker 1:Inter Milan.
Speaker 3:Maybe Real Madrid Inter Good, but go ahead ask your question.
Speaker 2:My biggest concern right now is we played 11 games and we considered 14 goals. Of course, we shifted 14 goals in just 11 games.
Speaker 3:We should have considered like 20, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:My question is the problem of these defensive issues? Is it down to players or the coach? Do?
Speaker 3:you want Leo to answer? You want me to answer Leo? Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Is this down to personnel issues or the coach in terms of tactics or whatever?
Speaker 1:It's a very tough question because the truth is that you know, you, you have a bunch of players that are you know, they've been playing for a couple of seasons and this is a new guy with his new ideas and yeah, there's there's that, there's that phase where they will struggle to adapt to whatever game he's trying to play. But then you see a lot of instances where you feel like you know, are these players lacking in quality? Like what's actually going on? What's actually going on? But then you see the same players come up in some games and they show the kind of quality that they have. So I feel like it's a complicated problem.
Speaker 1:I feel like we're still not a complete team in the sense that a couple of rules or a couple of positions in the team are still the weak points. Take, for example, the entire defense. Fonseca has very strong to have a stable back four ever since the beginning of the season up to this point. When it comes to the left back and the right back, you know when he's fit he gets to start, but then sometimes it's like Theo is being a shadow of himself Right, Like you wonder if it's the same Theo you know Because, like, just take the Cagliari game. For instance, All three goals that Cagliari scored came from his side Right, and he's the captain of the team.
Speaker 1:We had the same complaint about Calabria when he used to be the captain and all the goals would come from his side. So that's why I said it's difficult, because it's like we have the same players, but for some reason that defense line has never picked this season. They have never really done what they're supposed to do, because for a team that's got three goals in a game, you should be at least winning the game, Because scoring three goals away from home is not an easy feat. Why can't we get it right with our defense? That's the question, and I feel like management wasted a good opportunity in the summer to actually strengthen that defense. Like Bongiolino was available from Torino and they couldn't get him, Rather we got Pavlovich from a different league.
Speaker 2:But but you know honestly though you know honestly, leo, let's be real, like I feel like we have enough bodies in defence. I don't think, I don't think we should be having any problem with. We have at least this season, compared to last season, this season we have Pavlovich.
Speaker 1:Let's look at our defense.
Speaker 2:We have Pavlovich.
Speaker 1:We have Pavlovich, we have Gabia. So what's your assessment of Pavlovich so far?
Speaker 2:So far this season. I think, to be honest, the entire team is struggling, so I can't really say, okay, his form is down to, maybe, him not having that sort of quality that we expect from him. I feel like his form, his current form, is down to the fact that the team is struggling. The entire team is not in good form domestically, to be honest. I mean, I've seen him play some good games and he has the quality, he has the pace, he has the physicality. I mean not competitive Lukaku, I mean obviously, but you know what I mean. I think he has the top qualities of a defender, to be honest, same thing as Malik Thiao. He's playing good now at least he's improving his form.
Speaker 1:Of everyone. So far, I feel like Thiao has been the only one that has stepped up. Gabia as well, but now he's injured. But the rest of them, tomori. Calabria Pavlovic even Theo. Like it bugs me to even include Theo in that list. Calabria Pavlovich even Theo. Like it's it's, it's it's bugs me to even include Theo in that, in that list. These guys have not lived up to expectation this season and that's why we have been struggling because of the.
Speaker 3:Maybe there's something yeah to to help you. Yeah, your coach, dave and Leo. Your coach said it himself, right, he said that he couldn't believe we had that much difficulties against Cagliari's crosses that we lost almost 70% of our aerial duels. He then said, teo Hernandez, he can do better defensively.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 3:We're back to those days where we complained about Teo and defensive contribution. Right, let me be honest with you. I think the big issue Milan has is basically mostly tactical rather than players. And I say mostly tactical because usually players kind of, they gain confidence from, you know, understanding of what they actually need to do on the field. All of a sudden now, like what Is Tomori now? The worst player on planet Earth? No, you know, like you know what I mean, these guys are not that bad. They're not worse than the Cagliari guys. Basically, come on, guys, they're not worse than all the other guys in Italy.
Speaker 3:What I'm trying to get at is it's because somehow they look lost, need to do. They don't know how to actually defend when they have, when they're in transition. And I said this the other day about monza, the monza game. Like that monza game, you could see that every time ilan lost the ball, it was almost like everybody was everywhere. It's the same thing too. We can, like people don't know where to stand or who to cover or where to where to defend, and it comes back to the way they structured that midfield.
Speaker 3:I think the commentator was saying saying oh, please bring in Ruben Loftus-Chick to give you more solidity in the midfield. The unfortunate thing is that, like again, not to call out, it's not about Fofana alone, it's just the fact that we do not have a solid defensive-minded defensive midfielder or midfielder. What I mean by that is we don't have a guy that takes it upon himself to say I'm not going to go commit too much. I remember last time I said something about Krunic and I said it would give him grief that at least he's always there to break up the play.
Speaker 3:There's value in that too. Like, trust me, there's value in someone basically playing the N'Golo Kante role, or the Krunic role, or whatever you want to call it, where you just stay there when the other guys are coming after a break. Then someone is there to help prevent the counter-attack. Every single time Milan has a counter-attack, it seems like players are caught too high up and then you get the Pavlovich falling over like a giraffe right, because the guy is always left one-on-one with people and he does not have that ability. So it but Chin, there are things you expect, professional players.
Speaker 1:These guys are not. How would I put it? Now, I don't want to sound like I'm going to be condescending or anything, but they are not dumb. Watch the character game. You can see that these guys are pulling crosses from the wings and each time they pull those crosses, there is a Milan player close to that person playing the cross into the wings. And each time they pull those crosses, there's a Milan player close to that person playing the cross into the box. And you can see that, oh, we're struggling with this. Why can't you be more aggressive? Why do you let them keep pulling in the crosses?
Speaker 3:Again, that part is the motivation, I guess, to put in the defensive work, right, the coach tells you that don't let these guys cross the ball.
Speaker 1:You don't even need a coach to tell you that, like that last cross, I saw Moussa Like Moussa was just, you know, standing there and watching the guy pull the cross in. Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like it's a combination. It's a combination. I think it's a combination of players and coaching. If you were to split that pie, I would split the pie. I might split it 55-45 or maybe 60-40. 60% goes to the coach Because the system, for some reason, man all year I'm just saying this, this is game number 14 or 15. All year it seems like no one knows what he wants, except the Inter Milan game for some reason. But the rest of it it's like Inter Milan, maybe now this past week against what's it called Real Madrid. Other than that, it seems like when they go play other teams, everybody just decides we're going to do whatever and then it looks very chaotic. I've not actually felt any confidence in any Milan game. The only one I could actually point to was the one we played against I can't remember, was it Lecce? There was a game we scored like three goals in the first, like 15 minutes or four yeah, we played them well in that game.
Speaker 3:I can remember yeah, yeah, but no, but that was that, and then we couldn't do anything else. The rest of the game, right, the game was just dead. But I get it. What I'm trying to say is that I think there's a lot. This has a lot to do with the coach, man man, because think about Napoli, for instance.
Speaker 3:Right, well, there's a new coach and all of a sudden it seems like they don't give up that much chances. They do give up chances, but not that much, right? So what's the difference? It's the same set of players. They did not go and sign Maldini and Nesta and Stam. You know what I mean. It's the same guys, but somehow the Milan players, all of a sudden, every single game. It's not just one game, though if it was one game, I would understand. This game against Cagliari was exactly the same game they played against Monza. The only difference was that Monza got a goal Rudolph in the beginning and then Maldini missed that empty net and a lot of chances they missed. If they were more clinical yeah, if they were more clinical like these guys.
Speaker 1:These guys were just shooting and killing like they were on point, then we'll be having a different conversation.
Speaker 3:My goodness the first goal, the last goal, all the goals, man, they were on point.
Speaker 2:All the goals anyways the main thing is that right now we're going on international break, right, and when we come back, we'll come back to face Juventus and that's a very big game and, to be honest, Games like that don't even scare me Like if we have to so for some reason, the big games, the big games right.
Speaker 1:It looks like Milan will wake up, milan will wake up, you see. You just see that on that game they will. You know, least you'll get is a draw. That's would kind of turn up for that game. But that's the thing, like when they face these smaller teams.
Speaker 1:That which is why I said it I said it on the whatsapp girl was like these teams have lost their fair factor for milan for a reason, because when it's inter milan, you, if inter milan is playing, they will just smash them and go, like it doesn't matter. Yeah, from there, like inter will just come, smash them and go, because each time you, you play these games and you let these small teams believe that, oh, they can win. And it's not just one small team, it keeps happening over and over. So over the years we've lost that fear factor in Italy. Any side can just come and feel like, oh, it's our turn to beat AC Milan today and be on Correia di Sporto, that's their minute of fame. And they get it with AC Milan every single time, which has to stop. Anyways, we're a big club for a reason. Just smash these small teams and go.
Speaker 2:Shane, let me ask you this question because I know we talked about it as well recently. Right, regarding the gap in between the attack and the defense, how do you think we can solve this problem without compromising the attacking fluidity that we have in Mena right now?
Speaker 3:Well then, let them go and find a way a native doctor or something to get Ben Asser's leg healed, because, basically, I think that's the biggest issue he's almost ready. So yeah, because, to be honest, that's the only solution in-house that we have today. You know why I say so? Because he's the only guy that can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead. You think Fonseca is going to bench Fofana for Nassim he?
Speaker 3:doesn't have to bench, no, he doesn't have to do there right and put Pulisic there and then bring Benassi and then push Reinders a little bit further up as an attacking mid or something like that. So play three mid feeders basically.
Speaker 3:And then now you can use Fofana, allow him to be running that his headless checking around, that he goes back and forth, and then Benassi does not need to run much right, to be honest. So, basically, if I were him, all I would probably end up doing is do a 4-4-3, right, 4-3-3, rather right, with what's it called. So Benacer, reinders and Fofana, then you have Leao, maybe Morata, when his head is fully healed, and Pulisic, and you're good. And then maybe tell Ruben Loftus-Cheek to pick B-Boy like a ball boy. I just helped him Well, anyways be like a ball boy.
Speaker 2:I just helped him. But anyways, leo, here's my question for you. Do you because the way we are right now and the way CRI is, you know, in a very hot mood with other teams, like playing good football and you know getting points here and there like, do you how easy or how difficult do you think you'll be from Milan to make top four? Because, to be honest, I don't think we can win the league this season. Let's be real, and we already talked about it to WeChain last week, that the league is gradually just slipping off our hands. So, like top four now, like how do you? Because we have Napoli, we have Juventus, we have Inter, we have Atalanta playing really good football as well, right, lazio is the best football of their lives for how many years now? So how do you see us, like you know, reacting to this and making top four?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, if you ask me this question at the start of the season, I'll be like oh, come on, top four is like. You know, we're going to get top four, but at this stage it's going to be really, really, really difficult. You know, because we have a set of, you know, players that are not even confident in the ability, and it's the good thing. The good news is that you know, if these players like, if they because if you think this isn't, we haven't won the Scudetto Our first half of the season was not as great.
Speaker 1:It was the second half of the season where we now picked up that form, that incredible run, and that saw us all the way to the end. Could that happen this season? It's not impossible. But if the status quo persists and we go into January like this, then it's going to be really tough, because now you have it's not just the usuals, now you have a lot of other you know teams that are doing really well this season and they're going to make that, you know, just for points to be more, you know it's going to be more interesting, you know, and it's going to be really more difficult, you know. So I'm not even confident.
Speaker 3:Shane, what about you? I don't think Milan are going to like, as far as I'm concerned. Right, this Milan is not a title contender. Right, they are too inconsistent, I think all year. Like I said, you can't give up that many chances. Okay, when you go into the season, the season, right, you're going to play 38 games. Of those 38 games legitimately, there's at least like 25 of them that should be considered easy games. What I mean easy games is like go in, do your stuff, you know, move out, and then there's some that you're like okay, when you play head to head with those inter milans of this world, then you know, when Milan keeps dropping all these points against the pipe teams and keep losing against the pipe teams, the question is so how are you going to win the league? You can't win the league like that.
Speaker 3:Inter Milan show up and they use half the squad and they will win these games and move on right and clean. You go there and then somehow you give up chances upon chances and then draw these games. You can't be a title contender that way. So Milan is not. They will probably finish top four. Maybe they may make a big run in Europe because they will qualify for the next round and then, if they are lucky, they might get far, but that's about it. Hopefully he might just win Coppa Italia and let us use that one to hold ourselves, because the honest truth is this way, with Conte and that guy, the guy Conte, nzaghi and all these other coaches, I don't think there's a chance this season, as far as the league is concerned, is done, because it's not just about Inter Milan. Now You're looking at other legit teams that are looking good. Atalanta all of a sudden looks very solid. Yeah, so we can't be a title contender? Not this team.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it's not that, it's not that we're playing really bad football, but you could just tell, like we don't have the courage, like we don't have that mental strength to, you know, face these games that we can make out and come, come with, come with grits, come with with fights. Because when you watch these other teams play, you could see it, you could see that fight that, every single game. But sometimes we just show up like, oh, we have a game this week, you know, and we're just playing. So I don't want us to be, like, you know, prophets of doom and say, oh, milan is not going to win the league. No, because the truth is that whoever is going to win the Scudetto, it's still too early to call Like way too early. There are still lots of games coming right.
Speaker 3:For me, I am a doom. You know, I am doom himself. I'm not even the prophet. Let me tell you that.
Speaker 1:I am Mr Doom. I feel like our season can still be salvaged, because that's why you have January transfer window, right? Like you look at what's not working, what's not going on, which if? Like, if you ask Fonseca now if he knows his own, he should know at least one or two positions. Like, if the manager comes to him and say, hey, we're going to give you a blank check for two players. Give us two profiles. Who is he going to pick? Does he even have any names?
Speaker 2:That's the question we should be asking anyways. Thank you Chin, thank you Liu. It's been a pleasure talking to you guys about Milan. We're heading to an international break before Juventus game. Let's connect again and talk more and preview the game. Hopefully we come back better and stronger. Thank you guys. Thank you listeners. It's been a pleasure. Have a wonderful week, guys. Ciao.
Speaker 3:Thank you, david have a good, have a good weekend okay. Bye, bye guys.
Speaker 1:Bye guys, have a good weekend Okay bye-bye guys Posa Milan, bye guys Posa Milan.
