Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Discuss AC Milan's Victory vs Empoli & Previews UCL Clash vs Feyenoord
We unravel the drama from their recent encounter with Empoli, spotlighting the critical play and the hurdles they overcame to clinch essential points. Dive into the heated debate over Italian refereeing inconsistencies, particularly the controversial penalty decisions and Fikayo Tomori's red card. By dissecting Tomori's playing style, we shed light on the need for improvement and consistency at the defender's level, hoping for a positive transformation in his future performances.
In our vibrant discussion, the shifting tactical dynamics within AC Milan take center stage. We celebrate Rafael's stunning-headed goal and analyze the contributions of new talents like Felix and Gimenez, who infuse fresh energy into the team. The balancing act between creativity and defensive solidity is paramount, and we assess how veterans like Kyle Walker bring speed and stability to a high defensive line. Meanwhile, we ponder Milan's strategic foresight for upcoming matches, considering their aspirations to retain a top position in Serie A and make significant strides in the Coppa Italia and Champions League.
Looking forward, we are excited about Milan's upcoming showdown with Feyenoord and the strategic importance of building momentum against mid-level teams. Leadership transitions within the club prompt reflections on management's intentions and drive for sustainable development. We consider the prospects of significant players on loan, pondering their potential long-term contributions to the squad. As we wrap up, we are grateful for the unwavering support from our listeners and optimistic about AC Milan's thrilling journey ahead, both on and off the pitch.
The Rossoneri Renaissance is complete After 11 years. Once again, Milan are the champions of Italy. It's they who wear the crown for the 2021-22 season. Hello everyone, this is Dave and Chin. Talk Milan, and we are back again, Chin. What's up, bro? How you doing, man?
Speaker 2:I'm doing good, dave, I'm doing good. Yeah, I listened to the last podcast and my voice was so bad. You know, when I'm trying so hard to speak and I can't, you actually don't know how bad it is until you listen to the video, but I was able to make out some of the stuff. So apologies to the uh, to the audience and to uh fans out there for the poor quality of my voice. I was battling the cold for the last two weeks, so I'm I'm much better now. How are you?
Speaker 1:at least you don't have someone to blame it on now, right before you said it was purely no.
Speaker 2:I was going to blame calabria, but then they sold him, so I can't blame anybody oh, man, man.
Speaker 1:Anyways, listeners, it's been a pleasure to be back again. We are doing this podcast on the eve of Milan Fishing Feyenoord. However, like it's you know the best place to start, I think it's Empoli vs Milan Sorry, last weekend and I think it was a very interesting encounter. Like we made needed points so bad, and yeah, we did what we had to do to get the points. Chin, did you get a chance to watch the game at all?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I did, I did. Yeah, it was an interesting game. Back and forth, lots of entertaining moments, two red cards, good goals, lots of chances. Yeah, I did did. Just a little disappointed, just a little disappointed sometimes with how Milan kind of plays all these small things.
Speaker 1:But you know, honestly, let's talk about the referee to start with, like that, that foul on Timmy at the start of the game was it? Was it penalty?
Speaker 2:so I I've told you this Italian refs, I don't know. Sometimes they look very good, sometimes they look very bad. Let me sound like gattuso sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe bad, like it's, I don't know. They are so inconsistent and their calls are never like. They're never the same. Situations might look similar, but so yeah, um, I just saw earlier ibrahimovic complaining about the refs. Right, I usually don't like to blame the refs for a lot of things like that, but at at some point I guess you have to kind of call them out so that they may. Maybe their supervisor or whoever is responsible for the refs might give them some kind of coaching to ensure that they are being consistent, right? Because if you don't say anything, then you just accept the fact that they can keep getting away with bad calls right.
Speaker 1:Even that Tomoz record is very debatable as well.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no no, dave, I debate a lot of things, not that one Come on man, but an offside.
Speaker 1:It was an offside, oh yeah okay.
Speaker 2:So if you say offside, then it's not the refs, it's VAR, right, because basically VAR should have called back. The assistant ref did not raise his flag, the ref can't do anything, so the ref is going to call the offside. It's not the ref's fault, it's VAR.
Speaker 1:It's just to be honest, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2:However, though, the tackle itself. Let's not even start that tackle wasn't necessary at all. Yeah, why did he go tackle? I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's so funny because I think that's one of my biggest distinct with Tamori right. He makes some irrational decisions sometimes that really just make him look bad Like you think your boy Kawaka would have made that tackle? Kawaka. Even if Kawaka would have made that tackle, he would have cleanly Like he had the chance to be cleanly.
Speaker 2:I don't think most defenders make those tackles in that situation. That's my point. Like you already, call back the guy, right?
Speaker 1:Like physically right, he's more stronger than what's his name, colombo, right? Physically he's more stronger than him, even pace-wise. All he had to do was right, yeah, but there's no need.
Speaker 2:It was absolutely unnecessary because he didn't need to throw the leg there. He had. He had covered because think about it for him to have actually tackled the guy. That meant that he got to the player. So the guy wasn't that. He wasn't literally like that close to the 18 yard box that you can say, oh, he's so dangerous, you can shoot from there.
Speaker 1:No, you still have enough time. When he made a tackle right, I could see Kawaka.
Speaker 2:Already covering.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like why would you now go to make that sort of tackle? But that's to Mori though.
Speaker 2:Like the same thing I said. Like last year he did the same thing against Roma when he got the red card. He was on the yellow card and then he decides to go kick Belotti's leg for no reason. And I'm like, why are you doing those things? Like you're giving the referee an opportunity to make a call that he or she does not want to make, and to me that's just childishness. Like there are some players that don't Like. If you're going to according to you, you're the top five defender in the world. If you're going to be that guy, you can't be making those rash decisions. That's why England never used to call him. Anyways, I agree with you, you could have cost.
Speaker 1:Milan the game, but this is something that I feel like he can work on though.
Speaker 2:Well yeah. But at the same time too, like Tomori, is not a child, like he has been Milan. This is his fourth year at Milan, or third plus year, three plus years. Child, like he has been. This is his fourth year at milan, or third plus year, three plus years, I think he has 48 yeah, four years at milan already, and you know, at some point he should like.
Speaker 2:Leadership is also him knowing. Okay, I can't get away with this and I can't. And I just feel like somehow he himself even said it right, he has regressed a little bit, but it's. He's not playing with mental clarity and that's what happens. Like you're not sure about when you should make a tackle, yeah, everything is panicky, panicky, right, and yeah, that's it like I, just to be honest, right, even when it got recorded.
Speaker 1:To be honest, like we still look very solid, right, we still look very solid. Like I never, like I didn't see any sort of, like you know any sort of yeah, but you're playing against Empoli, exactly something, right, they didn't really cause, I mean, we lost a lot of goals, don't forget, like Jaafelis lost a goal, like a one-on-one chance, right? But anyways, I'm happy. Start with Pulisic is to me, this guy, man like Pulisic, is becoming one of the most important players in Milan, to be honest, because if you look at him, he's becoming or he is.
Speaker 2:Before you count top three players on the team, you have to count Pulisic, right, exactly. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I told you, all year he's been the most consistent Milan player Between he and Zidane Renders. They've been like the ones that you know what to expect from them. Like every other person seems to go through phases where they go up and they come down, but those guys have basically certainly been like more consistent than everybody all year round.
Speaker 2:So, like I told you before, I like his tenacity. I think he has very, very, very good ball sense, right, he knows what to do with the ball. He knows where to be with the ball. He knows where to be with the ball. Like, I was actually impressed that Rafael scored a headed goal from the 18-yard box. That was good.
Speaker 2:So, but overall, I think, for me, I was really happy with the entire game, simply because of the way the new players played, because they played very well. Yeah, they played very well in the Coppa Italia against Roma. I mean Gioferlis and Jimenez, and then, guess what, they continued the same. It makes you feel good because it wasn't really like the hype of the first game, right, it just shows you that these guys are actually good players and, like I said in the last podcast, gioferlis might be the most technically gifted player on Milan. All of a sudden. You know he is very technically gifted.
Speaker 2:Well, the only problem I have with him is he holds the ball too much, and it's annoying because it's like every time he has to take on players you don't have to Like, you don't have to take on players, but, chin, that's what we've been missing, though, to be honest, okay, I don't think you understand. You don't have to take on players, like sometimes you just have to get rid of the ball to get the ball back or allow the game flow. Every time, he would even drop deep, and then he would start doing whatever, like I just feel, in his in the middle of the field. If he's going to be that guy, he can't, and then the other thing, too, is he's going to get hurt.
Speaker 2:So, pulisic, one thing that has made him last at Milan without too much injury is I think I said this during one of our podcasts he stopped having to carry the ball too much and take on too many players, because what happens when you take on players is it's only two things that would happen You're either going to dribble the guy and pass freely, or there's the other thing, which is someone fouls you and you fall on the ground and roll and then get up every time you fall on the ground. That's not ideal for your body and that's how you end up with all these muscle injuries and all these issues.
Speaker 1:And then one day someone is going to stamp on your ankle and then you know I have a question for you how excited are you, fantastic opponent that we have in attack?
Speaker 2:Somewhat excited. The only issue is that I think I said this during the last podcast it's difficult when you play top teams and then your midfield is basically Benacer, not Benacer Tijani, reinders and Fofana. In my own opinion, those two guys cannot hold anybody really. You know the button. You know when someone has a big tummy and the button is barely I just feel like Kansisawa can work on Fafana to be able to play as a holding midfielder instead of him.
Speaker 2:Well, if so, the good thing about this formation is that there's a lot of creativity and technicality up front. And then the other thing too is also the defenders are very good. Like our worker has helped the team in terms of just making them feel more comfortable like just another guy that can defend right. You know what I mean, because think about this I have always complained that Emerson, royale and Calabria they basically were weak points. So that means that Teo Hernandez has to do more work trying to defend, but he's actually you know, that's not his strongest suit.
Speaker 2:And then the other center backs have to hold everything together. But then again, the center backs were not in peak form, right, but with Kyle Walker, he doesn't really need to do much in terms of attacking. And then you can free up Teo. Basically, milan half the time plays with three at the back, if you ask me which. And then you can free up Theo. Basically, milan half the time plays with three at the back, if you ask me yeah, which allows Theo to push up as high as possible. And then you have a lot of athleticism in the back with good recovery speed, which is good. The only thing is, you just need to figure out that midfield, because that midfield of Fofana and Reinders, to be honest, can be easily overrun. And then, to make matters worse, if you throw in Gio Felice there and he has to hold the ball in stupid situations without moving the ball along, then Milan are going to be vulnerable to quick counterattacks. Right, that's my concern, but that's.
Speaker 1:If you know how to say. I used to be worried about the counterattack issues before. Right, but with the quality that we have in our defense right now, to be honest, I think if you play high line like, we won't have any problem, like Pavlovich to me, which I think is probably the slowest of all the four defenders we have, he's still very quick, like his recovery rate is very, very good. You know what I'm saying. Then you have like players like Tomori, you have a player like Walker, like Teo Hernandez. These guys, like you know, the only thing my only concern is again in that defense is probably again is probably Teo. You know him being a little bit shaky sometimes. Right, if he can step his game up like I think people like Teo should probably be taking lessons from Skywalker, like this sort of mentality that he has, this sort of energy that he has right hopefully okay well, but you can't.
Speaker 2:You can't do that, though I think sometimes you have to be fair to people. Teo Hernandez, his greatest strength to Milan is basically his attacking threat from the back. Kawaka is not that. Kawaka's greatest strength is his recovery speed and covering, for he basically can be your last guy that covers for every defensive error that you guys are going to make, right, but on the wing, so you can always use him and shift the team a little bit Like you can. You cannot expect Theo Hernandez to attack and then be that great defensively and then you get away with having Calabria for the longest time, and then Emerson Royale and then now Kawaka. Those guys don't contribute the same as he does going forward, so you don't expect him to also contribute the same defensively right?
Speaker 1:Do you know that sometimes most of Thiel's problem is just basically attention?
Speaker 2:No, but attention, attention, attention. Sometimes it's just like willingness to defend, willingness to defend, because actually I've seen him do that. There's a period between when Milan won the Scudetto and when he went to the World Cup. He could defend, he can defend. But you know what happens some of those times when they'll defend, because you have to ask yourself this question, if the guy goes and defends, especially as a defender going up right. That's why everyone complains about what's his name Trent, trent. It's not that easy to be basically attack-minded and defense-minded at the same time. Balancing both. It's hard, because do you see Rafael Ea going all the way, tracking all the way back to the bandit?
Speaker 1:Well, at least just a little bit.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying that now you expect him to run and get in the opposition half and run and get back Chin, chin, chin.
Speaker 1:That's not what I'm saying. Let's be real. The primary function of a left-back is to defend. Let's forget the fact that, okay, some left-backs, like Theo, are very skilled in going forward.
Speaker 2:This is one of the things that the primary function is to defend, but then if the coach is asking you to maybe give more attacking-wise, Chin Theo can defend if he wants to.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but I Théo has played as a centre-back.
Speaker 2:No, I know. That's why I'm telling you that he has to pick and choose right, because you have to also remember that these professional footballers, they're not always like 100% Okay. So if you think of energy level as like 100%, they're not giving that every minute of the game. They are not. They are human beings, so they have to pick their spots to actually rest. So it seems like Teo Hernandez, for some strange reason, has decided that his moment for rest is when he has to defend, same as Trent, and then his moment to use his energy is when he's going forward.
Speaker 2:Sometimes players make those decisions right, and I'm not excusing his poor defensive, but, to be honest, we can get away with it now because we have a better defensive unit than we did before. So does that make sense? Yeah, so I think we shouldn't really be focused that much on his defensiveness. Rather, instead, how can he help that team when he pushes up to be a little bit more stable? In fact, if anything, I, if anything, I will actually start thinking of how can you push him a little bit more towards the middle so he can help for Fana, because I can see for Fana being out of position half the time. But go ahead.
Speaker 1:How do you reach Kansisao over the weekend?
Speaker 2:I don't know, did he do anything special? He just brought all his best players. Come on, man. The only issue is that he started the game without all his best players. I don't like that idea of Moussa always playing on the right wing, especially not at this Milan. Whatever, we have a lot of options there now. Like I don't know what's the obsession. Maybe it's exactly. I think it might be what I just said, though.
Speaker 1:Again, it's hard to like add moment to the midfield. Yeah, yes, even like. If you're talking about like defensive being defensive, right To me, I think Moussa is a more defensive midfielder than yeah, but then again the same thing.
Speaker 2:It takes away from your attacking flair, right, because he is not that attacking, and that's the issue. So I guess sometimes you have to ask yourself what do you want to have, like more solidity midfield, or go for the killer for the jugular? And it looks like tomorrow, against Ferrynode, he's going to go for the jugular, because I'm actually curious to see how Milan flows, because, man, we might possess the ball a lot and if we don't give up the ball with stupid dribbles between what's his name, rafael Leal and Jao Felix, we might actually do more harm to the opponent than they will to us.
Speaker 1:And I think, talking about your first Champions League. Right, we're facing Fenoord tomorrow. Feyenoord is in chaos at the moment. By the way, they just fired their coach.
Speaker 2:Because you guys went and took their best player.
Speaker 1:And so it's going to be and I think it's going to be an emotional game for Jimenez tomorrow. The predicted line-up is basically Mike Mignan, Kai Walker, Theo Hernandez, Tomori Pavlovich, Tijani, Reines and Fofana. Jao Felix plays with Pulisic, Rafael Leal and Jimenez. How do you see the line-up?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I like the forward group, I like the defensive group. I don't know what you can do with the midfield. I think, based on midfield, this is Milan's best midfield duo. Those are the two best players in midfield, because it's not like you're going to do anything else. You're not going to take Reinders out. I said it before no matter how weak he is defensively, you're not going to take him out. So yeah, I don't mind this. And then what is that? What's it called? As the game progresses, depending on how the game goes, you can always pull, you know, pull one of your other guys and toss him a moose out, or something to give you balance.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but Abraham is there as well, like in the attack, chukwizi is also there as well. So I think the depth is one of the main problems that we have, honestly speaking, and I think we're beginning to solve it now, and some people might give me a stick for this, but I really want to commend Zlatan Ibrahimovic for his effort in trying to correct his you know his wrongs and you know putting this in order. Yeah, it might look like it's too late, but in all honesty, I would rather see it like this than just leave it too late to be fixed. You know what I'm saying, so that's how I see it. We're facing Feno tomorrow. What are your expectations from this game particularly?
Speaker 2:Oh, I think there will be. You know? No, no, milan never does anything easy. It's going to be fun. It's going to be almost similar to what Juventus did with PSV today. They're going to, they're going some chances, but Milan will eventually win the game right, and that's how that goes. What's the score prediction? I don't know the score prediction. I honestly don't know. If I knew, I would tell you it's an away game, so I might end up. If I'm forced, I might say 2-1 or 3-2 or something like that.
Speaker 1:So you don't see Milan keeping a clean sheet? Oh, come on. Well, I'm predicting two nil tomorrow in favor of Milan.
Speaker 2:I'm very confident. Okay, well, your two. Nothing is your new 2-1. So I'm saying 2-1 or 3-2. Or in fact, there's a chance that I might end up in a draw, if you ask me. And then Milan will win the game at home. But let's see.
Speaker 1:Shane, let's quickly talk about Sierra, please.
Speaker 2:We are seventh on the league table now at least I thought you were going to say you're back.
Speaker 1:I was wondering where you were back into like yeah, we're seventh on the league table now, so I think it's, it's a sign of, you know, good things based on the signings and based on the new atmosphere in Milan and everything like that, like Milan and everything like that and some other teams at the top of the distance are struggling, right. If you look at it this way, napoli drove over the weekend.
Speaker 2:What does that have to do with you?
Speaker 1:Hold on, now Hold on. We have one game, we have one outstanding game Chin. If you win you give us UB7. We'll go to 41. Hold on, we'll go to 41. I'm not looking at the distance now. I'm looking at the end point, which is basically if I'm 41, right, that means that at least I'm 13 points behind Inter. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what are you still talking about? I'm confused. Are you still hoping that Milan will go and win the league?
Speaker 1:Chin. I'm not saying Milan will win the league. All I'm saying is, if Milan put a good run of games together, we can end up Like win the remaining 15 games. That's not realistic. Okay, so Unless the other top teams at the top of the table are going to win the 15 games, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Milan, right now we should be looking for top four, right? So if Milan wins their outstanding game, let's say, which we're not sure they will then they will be like two points behind Juventus. For fourth, what's it called? That's what you should be worried about. Even that, they will still be, what's it called? They will still be nine points behind Atalanta. For third, atalanta has to literally drop. Basically, milan has to win three more games than Atalanta the whole year for them to finish above them. So that's how you have to think about this. So stop talking about. Please don't put the Inter, milan and Napoli in the same boat. They are not in your conversation. Those guys are fighting for league title. Yours is to finish top four. I said it before if Milan finishes top four, goes to find the Champions League and then maybe make it to the Coppa Italia final and mistakenly win it. It hasn't been a bad year for them, if you ask me, right, with all the chaos and everything. So that's just it for me.
Speaker 1:That Italian Cup, though. Do you see us going that far, though, and winning the Cup?
Speaker 2:Yeah, why wouldn't we? Why can't we? I told you the coach is good at the Cup tournament, right, so he's good at Cup games, so I can see that Probably Milan this year has been in the league, right, and I think, funny enough, smartly for the players, they've realised that of course they've thrown the league away earlier in the year, so they can now focus on the Cubs, right, so I could see them going far. That's the only thing they have literally to play for for the year and then trying to push themselves in the Champions League. You might get lucky. This year's Champions League is interesting because, think about it, the only dominant team in the Champions League is Liverpool.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right the rest. Yeah, right the rest of the other teams and our team, our team, has improved.
Speaker 1:Honestly speaking, you know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 2:I don't know what your context of your improving means like improve to what level?
Speaker 1:come on, like in terms of like you know, all round, and in terms of depth, like we have improved a lot, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, and then what does that improvement mean?
Speaker 1:now I'm asking if we're going to face Feyenoord tomorrow and it's Calabria that will play right back, would you be that?
Speaker 2:confident. Oh, that's the kind of improvement. Yeah, yeah, Like we can beat teams like Feyenoord and then we can go to the next round. There's a good chance that we'll get a good draw. Like that's not a problem. The thing is, I was trying to get across the point. It's a good Champions League campaign, right, it brings money into the wallet, makes them feel good, but the big thing is finishing top four as well as potentially winning the Coppa Italia.
Speaker 1:How do you see the rapport between Kotsisawa and these boys?
Speaker 2:I think he's a very direct person.
Speaker 2:I think he can be abrasive with the players sometimes, but maybe they like it, maybe they actually are tired of the pure leads of this world and the niceness of this world. But the other thing, too, is that you're bringing in all these guys that are driven Like Jao Felix. No matter, you can say everything about him, but he looks like a guy that you know he enjoys the competition, same as Jimenez and Pulisic does like the competition as well, right? So I think the squad being also refreshed with all the workers of this world that have won stuff before kind of gives the team a sense of urgency that they needed. Right. And, frankly speaking, yeah, the coach is doing okay. Like I said, I haven't seen any tactical revolution that I would say oh my God, milan is now playing like this brilliant formation and brilliant style of play. No, like I'm seeing them struggling in situations just like they did against under Fonseca. The only difference is well, I guess you can say Consorcel has a higher desire or will to get results than Fonseca.
Speaker 1:And it gives them the freedom to play to way more than they were under Fonseca. Let's be real.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, but that freedom too comes at a cost, right?
Speaker 1:Of course. Fonseca was built into a specific style of play, but the style of play, the style of play he's trying to bring in. It wasn't working.
Speaker 2:Well, because the results were not coming.
Speaker 1:No, because you cannot just come in and say, hey, an attacking team, that okay, fine, they might not be disciplined in terms of the way they move forward, right, or maybe, like you know, in terms of the organizing and stuff like that which is the reason why they brought him. Like you know what, instead of disciplining these guys so that they know how to be compact and this and that you know like, tactically improve them, but don't kill that flair they have when they're going forward, well, he has a new job now at Lyon and he looks like he's had a lot of wealth.
Speaker 2:Good for him, good for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I wish him good luck well, what else do you have to wish him? You know he wasn't that bad like I remember when he got fired, like his record, he caused a lot of chaos.
Speaker 1:Come on Chin. I remember when he got fired, Like his record was not. No, like he caused a lot of chaos. Come on Gene, Like let's be real, it's just his personality.
Speaker 2:Like. Sometimes you might not just like the guy, it doesn't mean that the guy was as bad.
Speaker 1:No, it's one thing for him to have a problem with one person, but, like you know, having a problem with the entire team, Like this guy, Like none of that. He's wishing him luck. Anyways, I'm hoping Milan win against Fino tomorrow. We have a fantastic game and, you know, give us advantage, you know, coming to the second leg and then we can see who's next. But I feel like, with this new team, I'm very much excited in terms of, you know, everything happening around.
Speaker 1:You know, knowing that you're going to a game with top quality players, I think is very important. You know, and I'm happy that this set of squad is also under an amazing coach like Sajak Nsensau, that knows how to bring out the best in his players, and I'm beginning to see the improvement already. Like and that's the key, that's the key for every individuals Our top players need to be brushed up properly, you know, re-energized or whatever they have to do to bring them back into their best. That's the key Players like Taye Nandes, players like Tomori. They need to get them back to their top level.
Speaker 2:They need to help themselves and get back to the top level. Okay, so let me say this I'm actually quite happy for Milan in the sense that the next few weeks, like their next few games, are not I wouldn't say they are easy, but there's no very big game coming for them until they play Lazio, right? So they are going to end up playing Hellas, girona, they will play Torino, they will play Bologna, and then Lazio right, and then after that it's Lecce, como, then Napoli. So why am I saying this? Because, frankly speaking, this is how you build that momentum right, because then, later on, you're now playing Napoli, and then Inter Milan in the Cup potentially, and you need that momentum to start feeling confident, because those are the kind of games that the team can start gelling and feeling good so that, when they come to the big games, they have enough in their pocket, in terms of confidence that they've accrued, that they could use to tackle some of those big challenges that will come down the road, right, exactly. So all I'm trying to say is this is a very critical week period for Milan.
Speaker 2:This is it In week period for Milan this season in terms of how far are they willing to go? In terms of a lot of all their goal of getting top four, as well as their goal of having a good rest of the season, and then for Ndunseka, because they're also building to something good, right, so it's a good run of games. Feyenoord you know some mid-level teams in Syria. Then Feyenoord again, right, yeah, so it's a good run of games. I found out you know some mid-level teams in Syria, then found out again.
Speaker 1:Have you finally forgiven the management now?
Speaker 2:For what Was I beefing with them before Were?
Speaker 1:you the part of the people that would say that the management are the people that sold us out completely.
Speaker 2:No, but frankly speaking, like everybody, has to remember that all these people that, like the Brahimovic of this world and all those management their jobs, are all dependent on Milan doing well, right, yeah, yeah. So the point I'm trying to make is you have to assume positive intent. You have to assume that they want the best for Milan, just like everybody else wants the best. Now, they can either be incompetent, which means that you can decide you want to fire them, or they could just make mistakes, which means they learn from their mistake, and then you forgive them and you move along right. Now I'm not sure which one it is for Ibrahimovic it sounds more like, because Ibrahimovic doesn't look like a guy that will end up not being good at anything he does right. It might just be a learning curve for him, as well as just a series of maybe you know mistakes. That's fine, he'll learn from it. But remember Milan management they have their own mandate on whatever they're trying to accomplish, and sometimes it might not be aligned with what the fans are expecting, but at the end of the day, they still want the best for Milan.
Speaker 2:Now, what the best looks like is different for everyone. Maybe everyone, maybe we want them to go spend all the money and buy everybody and, according to Milan owner, we cannot win and be bankrupt like Inter Milan, right? And then the fans are getting mad and say, why are you not pursuing the cup as hard as Inter Milan are? But the ownership is talking about sustainable development for the team, right, where the team can grow organically, and all that stuff. So what am I trying to say? I feel like if Milan was a corporation that was open and people understood what their long-term goals were, it might allow the fans to be more aligned with all their moves, and then we can judge them a little less, because but the model that they were using before was out there for everyone to see, though.
Speaker 1:For everyone to see, though. I don't understand. This is your argument. I don't understand, to be honest, because we already knew how Milan would be.
Speaker 2:It wasn't more like an argument, it was more like you asked the question have I forgiven them? And I said there's really nothing to forgive because I feel like they were trying their best to do what's best for Milan. Simply Okay, anyways. And then, and they've learned from it and they are making some okay moves now right, and they fired the coach that they hired in the summer.
Speaker 1:How much more? Oh my God, we made a mistake. Can that be? Yeah, that's true, sure, that's true, yeah, so, yeah, it's only going to get better. My question is, though like all these players, like don't forget that Kawaka Walker, for example, right, is on loan. Same thing with Charles Felix. So, all these players that are coming on loan, do you see them staying at Milan, though, beyond this season?
Speaker 2:It depends on what the loan agreement is. Obviously, kyle Walker looks like he's going to be at Milan now, right, for the next two, three years. And then Charles Felix he just came out today that he said he's happy at Milan, like he's the kind of player that Chelsea might end up selling for 10 to 15 million to Milan and they will be okay. And then who else is on loan? Jimenez is there for the long term, of course, forget the loan. The Bondo, kid Bondo that we might never see because he's been developed for five years Like this is another basket. No, no.
Speaker 1:I you see Vasquez this weekend. Yeah, you know what's so funny about him? Like the way he greeted Mike Minyan it was actually Mike Minyan that actually greeted him and he just like with his gore face on.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo. This is what Mike Minyan was going to tell what's-his-name Pioli that he was still needing development. That's why.
Speaker 1:I remember when it came to Milan then and we all knew that it was backup, right, and I was like, no, he said he wasn't yet for backup, like he's here to contest for the number one. Just I'm like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's a good mindset. What was it? He was just supposed to accept the backup. Oh yeah, right, do that bad against Milan. He looked like an okay goalkeeper. I just couldn't understand how Tatarizano was playing ahead of him. This is the point I Okay. Of course you support anything Pioli does. Yeah, Tatarizano is a better goalkeeper.
Speaker 1:Bro, you see having post-traumatic with this Tatarizano guy.
Speaker 2:I can't get over Tata. I can't get over Tata. It's been three years that he got left behind. What's your problem? To answer your question about a long move, man, I can't. I can't get over that. The guy couldn't dive right. He felt like an hero could be falling to the ground. He said he couldn't dive.
Speaker 1:I just feel like T probably more nutritional, probably because it's too. It's too skinny to be a gookie. That's how I feel, honestly speaking. Oh man, anyways, guys, it's been a, it's been a pleasure talking about milan with you guys. Thank you so much everyone. Thank you for the listeners. Uh, our downloads keep growing every day. Thank you so much. Thank you for all the support. Please keep listening, keep streaming on all your platforms. Chin, do you have anything to say to our listeners, please?
Speaker 2:No, thank you very much. We look forward to Milan again, like I said, showing us some playing, some entertaining football for the rest of the season and yeah, and then we see how the season goes for us and we'll build towards something greater next year. So otherwise, yeah, thanks for having me, dave, thanks Chin it's been a pleasure. Yeah, it's been a pleasure take care of yourself.
Speaker 1:Everyone for Milan, ciao, so otherwise yeah thanks.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me, dave, thanks, gene, it's been a pleasure. Yeah, wonderful. Yeah, it's been a pleasure. Take care of yourself, everyone. Forza Milan, ciao.
