Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
Davy & Chin Talk A.C Milan Weekly
How Milan Beat Inter: Discipline, Maturity, Pulisic Winner, And A Night Of Magic From Mike
A derby decided by patience, structure, and one ruthless run into the box. We open with gratitude for 5,000 downloads, then dive straight into how Milan absorbed Inter’s early pressure, trusted the block, and leaned on Mike Maignan’s brilliance to keep the door open until Christian Pulisic slammed it shut. Allegri’s plan looked nothing like the frantic derbies of the past: compact lines, disciplined wingbacks, and selective pressure that turned emotion into control.
From there, we tackle the theme that now defines Milan’s season: big-game excellence vs small-game frustration. The 3-5-2 thrives when opponents want the ball, but against low blocks, the lack of a true No. 9 and limited creativity becomes the sticking point. We debate shape vs personnel, why a January striker is non-negotiable, and how a fit Pulisic-Leao pairing changes the geometry of every attack. Our midfield breakdown centers on role clarity—Modric’s composure, Rabiot’s positioning, and why Fofana should be a destroy-and-give operator instead of a do-everything box-to-box.
At the back, we examine Tomori’s recovery safety net, Gabbia’s positioning, and Pavlovic’s aggression, plus the emergence of Battezzaghi as a smart, disciplined wingback who reads wingers’ strong feet and wins small duels that matter. We also get into the spiky Tomori-on-the-ball debate, not to pick sides but to show how build-out choices shape chance quality. Then it’s the title race: why Roma look like a durable dark horse but lack big-game wins, what Napoli and Inter signal for the winter stretch, and why a one-game-per-week schedule magnifies chemistry and sharpness.
If you want tactics you can actually spot on the pitch, honest player assessments, and a clear view of where a title push lives or dies, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a fellow Milanista, and tell us: should Milan change shape against low blocks, or double down and sign a pure No. 9?
After 11 years, what is the great Milan?
SPEAKER_00:Hello everyone, this is Dave and Chin Talk Milan, and we are back again. Jim, what's up, man? How you do, bro?
SPEAKER_01:I'm doing good. Uh, Father Milan. Yeah, Dave, nice to chat with you. It's been a it's been a while. Yes, uh Milan. We're back from international break. Hope you enjoy the the time of.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? It's even way better. First of all, let's let's um let's share our uh listen, uh, our success of this podcast for us to say thank you to all our listeners. We hit 5,000 downloads, bro. That's massive, man. That's massive. Yo, guys, we just want to say thank you because in all honesty, this podcast, we just do it for the fun of it, for the fun of for the fun of the red and black. And we just enjoy it. There is no something, there's nothing like full commitment that we are being paid to do anything. We just watch the game, argue in a group, come on pod, and again continue. So, Chin, anyways, congratulations. I want to say thank you to everybody who's been showing us support on all platforms and downloading our podcast. It really means a lot to us. Chin, thank you so much as well for always coming on board, you know, to talk about Milan. Um, I know we we bodies, we watch it for fun, but at least being able to come on board and again be able to do it on the podcast, I think is something special, man. Um, you have anything to say to this before we go forward?
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, just uh it's really to your point, it's amazing. Like uh I I seem to I always remind people how this whole thing started. Uh Davy and Chin, every every Sunday evening will call each other and rant about the game. And uh we decided we were gonna make this a podcast. And to our surprise, it's become something that people actually like. So I do have to. From all around the world, by the way.
SPEAKER_00:From all around the world.
SPEAKER_01:I know that's I think whenever you show the statistics of all the people around the world that uh tune in or that download our podcast, it's impressive. Um, again, we come on, we come here, we don't come here as experts or as people that know more than anybody else. We only come here as Milan fans that just want to, you know, get things up our chest, right? Yes, and um so thank you for thank you for the support. Um, we understand that of course if there's a reason why Milan is one of the biggest clubs in the whole in the whole wide world. So continue that support, and uh, we're looking forward to many more episodes to go.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. And again, what a better way to celebrate the 5,000 download with a huge win for Milan today at the Mayaza um in the Milan Derby where Milan defeated Inter in their backyard, by the way, by one goal to in their backyard, yeah, all of their backyard.
SPEAKER_01:Both of their backyard. Just change, change the change the cotton.
SPEAKER_00:Anyways, yeah, it's it's it's an amazing game. Um going to the game with the build-up and everything, Inter has actually regained the momentum that they lost towards the end of last season. They've been on a on at least they've been they've been consistent this season. Um going to the game.
SPEAKER_01:No, when it comes to when it comes to small teams, Inter consistent, just so you know. Yeah, all the big games they mostly play this season. They play.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you're right, you're right. But anyways, yeah, we won the game by one-nil thanks to uh Captain America, Christian Politic with the long goal. Um, before we dive deep into this game, Chain, I know coming back from an international break, we've been able to recover a couple of our players that we actually missed after the last, the previous international break, which is players like Christian Politic, players like um Adrian Rabio, having them back. What was your what was your feeling going to this game? Like how was your what were you expecting from this game?
SPEAKER_01:Would it be hypocritical to say, or will it be will it be hindsight 2020 to say I actually expected such a game, the exact game they play today? Because I told you when you and I were chatting offline that Milan, when it comes to the big games this season, they've they've uh they have gone above and beyond, right? Yeah, they've stepped up. The big games are not their problem. In fact, every big game, every game against top six opponents this season, Milan have won those games, and they've kept a lot of clean sheets as well, not just winning, right? So it's one of those things where if Milan took their chance, took played only big, big uh big teams, the top top six teams in Italy, they will be champions by like tomorrow, basically, given how how they play those games. And there's it has to do a lot with the structure, obviously, right? So when you asked me that question, I actually expected this. Now, did I expect that it was gonna be a win? Probably not. My expectation was maybe a draw, but I wasn't too I wasn't too worried that they were gonna get run over, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so you know, honestly, Chin, you're right though. But like me going to the game hard, like even though I felt like we we are in a position where we're not as fragile as we used to be before, like in the past, like during the days of Peoli, where like you know, we just go into the game and get beat up, black and blue, right? Like under Allegri, we've been it's been more controlled. But again, considering the fact that you look at the the the stakes behind this this this particular game, right? Inter has lost like quite a few, like coming to this game. So they really had a statement to prove, right? To make. And also considering the fact that it's in their backyard, like again, they really want to like come out and prove a point. Again, and if you look at it again from the the league table perspective, right, a victory was actually very important for Inter today as well. So I looked at all those all those factors, right?
SPEAKER_01:Okay, first of all, it's it's a Milan Derby. So it doesn't matter whether it's in the moon or in the uh backyard cup or whatever cup when LC Milan and Inter Milan play, they both want to win those games. Exactly. Secondly, uh the tides have turned, right? So Milan went from losing five straight or six straight derby games to inter Milan to now they haven't lost in about six six games. So inter Milan has struggled with against AC Milan since since last year, like early last year. Exactly. So exactly. Um it's just something to bear in mind, and those were all the what you call like the context of uh the context before the game, right? All the conversation around that. And again, it was almost a table, a table, uh top of the table clash. Because um, aside from Roma, it was basically between Milan and Inter Milan, who's gonna finish, who's gonna be on top of the table by the end of this game week. And um, yeah, so it was a big game. It was a big game, and to be honest with you, Dave, it lived up to the hype, really.
SPEAKER_00:It does it, it did, it did, it did, no honesty. And again, again, like but one thing I I noticed about this game, let's just quickly just let's actually let's talk about the let's talk about the game actually. The previous derbies that we've been playing leading to the last few games that we've actually dominated in terms of victory, right? If there's one thing that I noticed, is that uh when we go into this game under PULE, even though we have a plan, right? Our plan doesn't really show the level of uh you know understanding of what this derby really means and how to approach it. And this is why I want to give a lot of credit, particularly in this game to uh Matt Allegra, because if you look at the team, the way we pirated that team, right? Yes, we have the first 11, or like the first 10, because if you look at it, I don't think this is the kind of Raf Rafael is not the ideal striker that alleged parade for this kind of game, right? He needs someone who is very physical. But again, if you look at it, right, in the previous derbies that we've lost to the Inter like badly, we always go and start aggressively, and then we expose ourselves and get beat up real bad. You know what I'm saying? But if you look at this particular derby, we started with a lot of you know discipline, composure, and timing, which is basically waiting for our time. Like when I look at the possession, like in 60, like 60, at some point it was like 68 to like 32 in the first half. Like, literally, Inter was just like final coma thoughts, like you know, they really had a plan that they will come in, be aggressive, get in our face, and then what once they have like one or two goals scored, we'll have to start coming at them, they will expose our certain stuff, right? But the discipline that we had in this game, even though like it was a big struggle, if you look at some individual errors that were committed in the first half, but especially for Fofana, for example, right? Fofana was really out of position for most of the time in the first half. Now, what's your perspective on Allegri's approach in this game in the first half?
SPEAKER_01:So I think it was a mature performance by Milan, especially in the first half. Because to your point, the fact that the first 15 minutes of the game, it felt like they couldn't touch the ball, right? They could not, and inter Milan and all of that, nobody apart to your point, apart from the few errors here and there, uh Mike Millan had to make two marvelous saves. Like those were saves, yeah. Oh, yeah, the two the the save against uh against uh what's his name? To Ram, the weird header, and then the shot by uh Lotaro.
SPEAKER_00:Those are what Lataro was kind of shocked that's in that save.
SPEAKER_01:He kept looking at Mike Millan, like what the heck, man? Those were amazing saves just to keep Milan in the game, and then again the team did not and they didn't get faced, and they started slowly you know getting a a handle, right? And to me, when I say that's what I mean by maturity, so that's a sign of a calm, mature team, right? And you can see that I think I told you that what that's one of the big things that uh Allegro brings that most other coaches that coach Milan in the last two years have not brought, yeah. Maturity, right? Uh that maturity where they you know that no matter the situation, they're not going to be faced, right? They are not. So um you that showed and we weathered the storm, and uh you talked about that being the like in the past, right? In the past with Peoli, they would have come up come into the game with trying to take the emotion of the game. Exactly going to be convert it into energy, and that's that's the problem. So they would take that energy from the stadium and try to because again, this is all part of Peoli's idea of football, right? Go hard, press hard, go, go, go, go, go, non-stop. So there is it's it's it's uh all or nothing for him. So, anyway, so uh uh Allegri on the other hand, and to be honest, the other coaches as well, like Fonseca and uh Consensao before Allegri. Yeah, and that's the that's the key difference, is that those guys are a little bit more measured in their approach, they're not going to be like Peoli, which is why again Milan could lose, not even narrowly lose, get their ass whooped multiple times by Inter Milan, five, six times. And then these other guys, they find a way to get a draw or to get his narrow win or whatever, right? And that's the difference. So I like the approach, I like the mature performance. I think uh again, as these games happen, I keep talking about them every single time that they actually keep telling you how this is how Milan is going to win the league. I I say this because the more they do this, the more they start believing that they can actually win the league. Now, the unfortunate thing is that I can bring it back again. If they cannot confide this into momentum to beat small teams, we're going to still have the same problems over and over. But yeah, mature performance, especially in that first half. Yeah, yeah. I think in the first half, and then towards the end of the game, the last 20 minutes of the game, after Mike Mignante that penalty, because Inter Milan kept coming and coming and coming, and they were not phased, right?
SPEAKER_00:Even like you look at it, if if you look at the scores overall, right? Expected expected goals was like 1.92 to 1.01 against Milan, which shows again like Inter created almost like what 20 quality chances after Milan playing quality creating seven, a short target, six to three. Like they really came out, but again, the I think what what really stands out for me is uh Milan's uh ability to actually control you know software together as a team, you know what I mean? And push through all the pressure, like even in the second half as well. Like now, let's let's talk about the positions, the the the the team, the team, the team formation. If you look at how Alec set up like this team, right? Yes, on paper we are like 352, right? Which is understandable. But if you look at how he makes this team, like how we how we instruct these players in terms of their the instructions he's he's giving is giving these players, right? Tomoe doesn't go after good at four, which is what I'm trying to explain to you like earlier, right? That Tomoe doesn't attack, not because of the fact that he doesn't have the pace, he does have the pace, yes. But again, you cannot have Pavlovich running on the left because if you look at Batisagi, right? Batisagi usually covers for Pavlovich, whenever Pavlovich is running forward, and he's good at running forward, by the way. And the same thing goes for Alexei Salamakas on the right. Alexei Salamakas attacks mostly on the right, which gives um Tomori um the chance to come inside and pair with um and partner with um with Gabia because you cannot isolate Gabia. Gabia doesn't have that speed. If you expose Gabia with those counter-attacks, we're gonna be in trouble. He reached the game when Tomori actually goes in and actually try to cut those passes and everything like that. Now, my question is though, like this formation has been working for most of those big teams that would be beaten, right? Do you think Alec should try to like switch up when we're meeting when we're playing those those those those um lower ranked teams? Or you think like it's it because again it struggles. We consider like stupid goals, like against Pizza, we consider two goals. Against Palmer, we consider two goals, right? Like, what's your take on this though? Do you think like a switch of formation when we're playing like all these you know low-blocking teams, or it's just a matter of individuals?
SPEAKER_01:No, I I think okay, I think I told you this offline as well, that uh the formation Milan has, it works this low block, you know, staying steady and hitting teams on counter-attack. It works when you have a team like Inter Milan that really wants to play, right? You know what I mean? Think about that. Like it's Inter that wants to play. Even the goal we scored too was a counter-attack, right? And yeah, Inter wants to play. When you go play against the other teams that Milan now has to play, that's where the problem comes, right? The problem comes then. So if you ask if they should change formation, my answer is I don't know if they should. Because if you notice something today, the first time Polisic and Leao played together. And why did I bring that up? Because I told you again offline that if if Polisic was still fit, all those games that Milan were drawing against uh all these small, small teams, they would have they would have found a way to win. So when you have Polisic and Leo together, that quality just it will show, right? Against these teams, eventually it will show. But when either of them are playing, which has happened a lot this season, yeah, you find out that you know just just missing one of those players, the quality drops significantly that you know you can't break down those teams. So why I'm bringing this up is that um I think sometimes we make it seem like the formation is part of the problem, which I could understand that when you're when you lack a lot of uh game changers, then you want to you want to maybe try to throw numbers at the attack, right? So if you get my point, but even if let's even take a step back, who exactly would Allegra even put to try to do like what formation would he even play that would change anything? Because Milan's big problem, especially with these teams, is lack of creativity. It is right, yeah, it's lack of creativity, and the only creative people we have on the team is basically between Polisic and Leao. The rest of the team is just very good players, though, don't get me wrong, yeah, but they are not that creative. We haven't seen Jazz Harry really play, which might be another thing to unlock the whole thing. But the rest, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of cutting today. We were all complaining against Inta Milan, like where's the attack? Because again, there was no way that Milan was going to create a chance accept this counter-attack. And now, if you're going to do that and you don't have your policy channel, you're not going to be that successful. Okay. So formation formation change will not solve your problem. Personnel is your problem.
SPEAKER_00:Let's talk about personnel because this is what happened today, right? When we when we started the game, obviously we don't have a we there was there was no reference point. Because yes, Rafael was a striker, was the top, was it was it was it was the number nine, but he wasn't playing like a number nine. Half of the time, he was drifting either to the left or to the right because he was having trouble with the physical battle with Achabi and Bastoni, right? But the thing is, Milan tried as much Milan couldn't attack centrally because again, when police tried to drive the ball forward, they always like either shield him off or they bodied him or stuff, stuff like that. So we now started trying to use the flank. We tried to use Alexis Salamarque, so we tried to use and and Batisagi. But again, when they have the ball, they couldn't actually go like one-on-one and dribble. So they were forced to cross the board to the center, and there was no button, there's no one to attack it. So which means that regardless of how you see the situation, we need a move at nine. Now, my question oh, I know that's a problem.
SPEAKER_01:Milan is Milan is a good, a good, uh, a good uh striker. Even against these teams that you're complaining about, I'm telling you, with a good striker, all half of our problems will be solved.
SPEAKER_00:If we're gonna bring in a striker, you can bench Rafael, you can bench Polisic, right? Which we have to create space for them. Unless we start going for 3-4-3, which will recommend Rafael on the left, put him back on his football.
SPEAKER_01:Which which brings you to the question that you asked earlier, right? Should they change formation? The reality is that maybe perhaps. So even if we know that we don't have a we don't have a good striker, Jimenez is still somewhat serviceable against those teams. So if I actually were Aleg Via and I'm playing against these smaller teams, instead of going with your trusted uh 3-5-2 formation, I'll probably go with uh 4-3-3, right? Because then you can actually try to create with Leao and uh but the issue now is that you miss, you wouldn't have uh Alexis Sanchez, right? Salamacas, you won't have Alexis, uh Alexis Sanchez, Alexis Salamacas, right? You won't have him, right? Because there's no way he's going to play in the four in if you're doing four three three. Yeah, your three your three midfields will be for Fana, Rabio, and uh uh uh uh Modridge, yeah, basically, right? So that's kind of one of those things. And we're not having Alexis. We did we did I said 4-3-3, or maybe he can also do 3-4 3-4-3, which technically then brings you back to where you are now, which is 3-5-2. Because even though they start the formation as 3-5-2, doesn't necessarily mean that that's what they play. Uh my point is that you actually have to have a way, a you have to have a formation that allows your two best players, your two most creative players, which is the Leao and Pulisage access to do whatever they do, right? And right now, the way it works, today I felt so bad for Pulisic. Like he could every time he tried to every time he tried to run with the ball to go, they just push him off the ball. Yeah, yeah. Every single time. You couldn't create anything like you know, central.
SPEAKER_00:But and the how that goal came out, the build up was central, right? And it ended up on the on the on the left-hand side. What when Rafael did the layoff for Fufana and he was able to grab the ball forward and passed it to um Salomakas, right? And when he played the shot, police was running on the left-hand side to be able to finish the goal. But the question is though, again, I just kind of feel like Rafael Leao is gonna struggle like physically. He's I don't think he's ready to go to go to the toe physically with any sort of central defender right now.
SPEAKER_01:No, Rafael is not Raphael is not a center forward, he doesn't have the attitude, he doesn't have the when I say attitude, I'm not even saying that because as an insult, too. I'm only saying that as a fact, like there's a mindset you have to have when you're a striker, knowing fully well that the world is against you, right? Yeah, he is not, he wants Rafael Leo wants to be on out of in space, which if you're a coach, let me ask you a question. Why wouldn't you want to put your guy out in space? That's where he's that's where he thrives, right? Yeah, and the only reason Allegro is doing all this is because he doesn't have a reliable number nine. I can tell you that as soon as Allegro gets a reliable number nine, yeah, there's no way he's putting Rafael Leo as the number nine. Because that's a waste of his his talent. Like ideally, now the only other problem Milan has is that with the if the with the setup we have, it's if you're gonna play that 3-5-2, you it's it's you're not gonna play Rafael Leo as one of the wingers, it's not gonna work. He can't do what Alexei Salamacas does. No, no, and he won't. So that means he has to change his formation. He has to. He has to change his formation, which again brings it back to I think if you ask me, when we play smaller teams, we have to find on a new, we have to have find a new way of getting Leao and Polisic out on the wing. That's just my thing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. I agree with you 100%. Again, um the only thing I that also see in this formation is that like I don't know, like a lot, there's a lot of criticism right now on on for Funner, right? Which I think is is justifiable if you look at his uh the way he plays these days. But again, Chane, we've gone through players like Gatosso, we've gone through players like Ambrosini, even No Chorino as well, right? Even when Kelsey first came to Milan, it was horrible. But we're able to at least you know be patient with him. Do you think like the criticism on Fofana is too harsh? Because again, he created a goal today, regardless of how bad people think think it was. What's your thought on him?
SPEAKER_01:My problem with Fofana is that he he keeps doesn't he actually watch other people? Like, uh, do you not see like Rabio is never out of position? You know what I mean? Like he's always out of position. You said it earlier. Um I've been telling you this since he came to Milan. Somehow he's always as a guy that he's always chasing, you know what I mean? He's always chasing from behind, and that's not the best. How often have you ever seen Rabbi chase anybody from behind?
SPEAKER_00:He's always facing the ball, somehow he's always, you know what I mean, in position where but I think, but I think, but I think it's the way allegory instructed him to play, though. Because he has to okay, so but that was that was the same way.
SPEAKER_01:That was the same way for for second instructs him to play, and then comes aside him.
SPEAKER_00:So every look all the players were horrible. Look, leave that one. No, I'm just telling you that this is the yeah, if you look at Fofana, right? He plays ahead of he plays because he has to join the press, he always joins the press. And when it goes back, he is it, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So the issue is that then that's the problem, right? It goes back to are you trying to get for fana to be your box to box means feeder? That's what they are trying to do. The guy that joins the attack, as well as the guy that you know helps to cause back, right? But for fana is not that good to do that, it is not that kind of player, right? That's the issue because then now Milan players Milan fans see him always out of position. We see him losing, making bad passes after bad passes or losing the ball in positions where he shouldn't be losing the ball. Yeah, why? Because the coach is asking him to do now. Interestingly, I don't know if you noticed when he came off. Did you notice the hug? Allegri hugged him. Yeah, allegor hugged him. In fact, I feel like allegory might be loving the guy more than uh Rabio, which is no, no, no, no. But the point I'm trying to make is that you and I are having a conversation. What am I loves the guy?
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I I love for fun now, of course. You do this is in here. There's there's this level of physical presence that you want from a midfield. If we don't have it at that level, if we're not playing at that level, we're gonna be in trouble. Now, so this is what I'm trying to say here first.
SPEAKER_01:So the the thing is that the truth of the matter is that for what Milan needs for Fana offers that, but my only problem is that maybe they should stop asking him to do things that he cannot do because at this point he's not going to he's not going to turn into uh popoba when popoba was the prime box to box measure. Like he's not just get the guy to destroy the ball and give it to Modric. Like, you know what I mean? Give it to people, even Rabio. Have you noticed Rabio does not try to do things he does not know how to do? So he's a very smart player. That's the one thing that I'm actually beginning to appreciate more and more about him, is that I can actually predict exactly what Rabio can do. You know why? Because I actually already know he knows himself well. So Rabio will never try to attempt anything that Rabio cannot be honest, whatever. He's not he doesn't see him trying some kind of passive, right? Like unnecessarily. You know, he's not playing some kind of play, he just his job, he knows his job. Yeah, get in the right defensive position, win the ball back, and then give it to people that will do the job and play the ball into space. And he's very good at actually doing that. He's so good at playing ball into space. I can tell you most of the times AC Milan, um, what's it called? AC Milan has a breakaway. It's right, you're playing the ball, he knows the timing very perfect. He will play the ball into space, and that's what you need. You need a player that just is very self-aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then somehow you you can tell me the instruction by the coach. Do you think Allegri sits him down and says this is what I want you to do? No, it's just that he knows himself. Forfana somehow thinks that he's uh he's uh there's something special about him when it comes to uh some kind of things, right? And that's what he tries to do, anyway. So that's the problem.
SPEAKER_00:Let's shift to our defense line here. Um, Chin, whenever we look at our different combination of you know Gabia, Tomori, and Pavlovich, which again the great uh magic mic, like these four guys have been very, very impressive this season. And in all honesty, I cannot remember the last time I've seen Mike Minyan in this sort of form, probably like two, three years ago, more than two seasons.
SPEAKER_01:What do you think has changed? I I don't know. I I watch a lot of the Milan training, right? And I see Mike Minyan, like the amount of work he put in put into training. You think that I feel like they suffer him more in training than in the game. Yeah, I watch his training. I don't know if you I don't know if you watch those videos. I do, I do, I do those ones that they will be shooting ball and deflecting it, shooting ball and deflecting it. Inclusive, it seems like work, yeah. And then sometimes I feel bad because he dives the way he dives, he dives real dive, and I'm thinking this is how you get hurt. So maybe that's where he actually gets hurt is from training, not even the games. Yeah, like because the work, but the the reason I bring it up is because his training pays off for him. Mike is good, uh, he is really, really good. In fact, the only one thing I can actually call out this season that I haven't seen a lot of, you know, is his uh passing range. You know, maybe because of the way Milan plays, right? Where there's not a lot of option, like for him to really.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think I think I think it's more of it's it's more of Modric depicting the pace now compared to it. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe that's more or less it, right? If you have Modric, so you don't have to get Mike to stretch the field. Because Milan doesn't stretch the field that much. That's the thing. No, so I haven't seen Mike like nowadays, he just does his basic normal goalkeeper pass, right? So again, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just telling you as like you know, that was one of his that's one of his uh great strengths, right? Is that he is very good on on the ball. I can also see that the defenders trust him, obviously, very, very uh they trust him very much that they always you know they don't hesitate to pass the ball back to him. So overall, the defense is very good. Um, even though technically speaking, they were not that good today. Yes, I'm saying that like if you think about you're talking about it. No, I know, I know. On the on the on his on the whatever, right? If I'm getting it on the curve, right? If you're getting it on the curve, yeah, they were good. They didn't concede against inter Milan today, right? But in reality, in terms of the number pure numbers, take out the jersey and take out Inter Milan, they gave up a lot of prime, prime, prime chances today, plus the penalty, right? That they gave away, which uh Mike saved. So I think we we've been good defensively, we've been good. Milan's problem is not defense, you know. Like, I'm never worried. Like, you know, one thing that I used to see when Peoli was Milan's coach is that every time there was a break, right? Every time there was a counterattack, even against him, especially against Inter Milan, used to be very frustrating. When there was a counter-attack, every single time you will see there will be like four on two. Wide open. And then everybody, everybody else will be drawn. But you notice today, every time Milan had the Inter Milan had a counter-attack, notice that Milan always had like at least five people back. We play more compact, yeah, exactly. Yeah, like at least five people back. You can always count your three defenders to be back, and then you can count Rabio and Modric for sure. Yeah, like almost always five people back, which again gives you that confidence, right? It gives you that confidence because you know for a fact that uh you know there's people back they will defend, right? So it feels it feels different. Like we always think that defending is a a like it's just the four people that are the call defenders that defend. It's a good team effort. It's it's about knowing how to. I think I was telling you this before, knowing where you can lose the ball and where you can't lose the ball. Yeah, knowing where everybody is relative to each person, so that you can take a risk, you know, and then if you notice, if you lose the ball where Alexis loses the ball, or you lose loses where Batesagi does, or you lose it up higher up the field, everyone sprints back and they're in good position to cover it. Then you're not you're not vulnerable, right? If you lose it in the midfield, Milan doesn't lose. You notice that Milan does not lose the ball in the midfield that much anymore.
SPEAKER_00:Why we have because we have people we have people like players like Rabbi, or players like and Modric Modrich, right? Modridge never loses the ball and stuff exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Modrich never loses the ball, like no matter how pressed. He looks, he would never do something foolish and give the ball away. Yeah, it's so impressive watching him, even under pressure. I feel like other people are scared to come charge him that they even let him just do whatever he wants. So when Modric will not lose the ball in the middle, when Rabio has so much uh you know balance that he can always hold people off and never lose the ball, yeah. Then now you actually don't have those unnecessary breaks against your team.
SPEAKER_00:So I want to like I was watching, you see, uh, sometimes too, like it's always good to give credit where it's deserved. Like, I want to shine a light on. Oh, I thought you want to talk about uh about uh uh tomorrow. But guys, look at the tomorrow's starts at out. Let's talk about Batesagi. Let's talk about Batesagi. Batagi today is was very active, was very good. And I'm look watching him, and I'm watching how he plays, how he joins the attack, and how he close, how I was able to close Carlos Augustus, right? On the flank, whenever Carlos Augusto receives the ball, I'm like, man, this is what I was expecting Stupinian to be doing. Like on one-on-one, like Inter really find it very difficult to actually play play play Milan from the left-hand side.
SPEAKER_01:And again, which shows the difference between him and the and a stupinian. I feel like he actually grew up in Milan Academy learning how to defend.
SPEAKER_00:I think he spent a lot of time actually watching Teo Hernandez as well. I think he learned a lot from the thing.
SPEAKER_01:I thought you were gonna say watching Calabra. I don't know if it's Teo Hernandez that will teach you how to defend.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no. Like the confidence in him, the way he plays, you can tell. Like he's he's not all over, he's not erratic, not over the whole place, the way a stupid does.
SPEAKER_01:No, but he's a smart player too. You know why I say so? Because his decision making when he when it comes to where how to defend people, he's very smart. So he knows that uh uh uh Augusto is left footed and he's on the right side. Yeah, so he doesn't actually he forces him to go to his his right leg, which again, I again I keep wondering at that level of football, right? Someone like a stupignan, that's all he should be doing. But yet he will let people go to their favorite foot, knowing fully whether that is the leg that they all have. Like how many, how many legs does Politano have? He literally only has that left. Yet he will let him go to the left, right? So I say that because if you watch this kid, he will actually give you that byline cross, especially if it's your your left, your right leg. And then the other thing, too, is that he also is quick enough, maybe because he's young, that he can always recover and block those crosses, like if he gives it to you, right? So he's a very, very, very smart player.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so Chen, like I really want to talk about Christian Polisic because Okay, go ahead. In the last three seasons, he's actually tied up after today's goal, he's actually tied up with Lateral Martinez. I mean, contributing to 48 goals in the last three seasons. He's actually tied up at 48 with Lateral Martinez, man. Like when I look at Polisic, right, and I look at the impact uh he has when he's on the page for Milan, it's just it's just it's absolutely you know, joy for me considering the fact that how uh how much we've struggled to have this sort of like number 10 in the last three to four seasons. Remember when we used to have um Bram Diaz do this sort of like road that Christian politics is doing right now, right? And like just seeing politics now have actually produced this sort of like level of quality for Milan and taking the weight off uh Rafael's shoulder to me, which I think it's it was was very necessary, right? I feel like if we keep Christian politics healthy all through the season, which I know it's not it's gonna be very difficult to do, but if we keep him healthy and keep Rafael Liao healthy with him as well, with the support of Alexis Salamakas, right? I think we have a say in this cudeto. What's your thought on this?
SPEAKER_01:So I've talked about it multiple times before. I told you that to me, policy is Milan's most important player. I say that because again, whenever he plays, there's this air of confidence that comes with, and this is something that Raphael technically used to bring for Milan, right? And now, honestly, it's policy. And the reason I say that is because the level of tenacity he brings, everybody else can buy into that. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He doesn't, he's not like a lazy player that you can say, well, when things are not going well, like he's going to sit back and just relax. No, he's going to work his sucks off to ensure that he tries to carry everybody along and show the team that this is where you're supposed to do, which is sometimes how he ends up getting injured because he tries very, very hard, right? Yeah. So he's uh he's to me uh most important player, uh uh spark plugged. Like all the goals policy scores. I've told you this before that it's all in the box. Even today's goal. How did he know that he has to keep running and keep running all the way to the for the rebound? That shot looked very it looked like an easy shot, right? Looked like an easy shot.
SPEAKER_00:I was expecting someone to save it, you know, honestly. But again, it wasn't that he didn't complicated, but again, the fact that actually he raced ahead of Akaji, right? To the ball.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But doesn't take anything for granted. He read the ready, yeah. Where's everybody else? Nobody else made that round to that spot. So somehow, a lot of times, like I remember this season, all the goals he scored, almost every single one of them, uh either rebounds in the box or like he puts his leg in like last minute. That's his kind of goal, and that's the goal from a person who understands how to position himself uh for for maximum impact, right? Yeah, so to me, he is uh is if if policy, in fact, if Pulich plays, I feel more confident that in Milan getting a result than to be honest with you, if it was the other way around, let's say Rafaelia was playing and it wasn't Pulitz. Now, with both of them, obviously, we are much uh chances increased semantically, but I'm just telling you he uh this year, this season, go look at it. I can't think of the game. The only game I can think of, maybe Kremlin is the most of the games that he has played this season. We've come up with positive results. When I say played, I mean like that he started, not the ones he coming as a as a sub, right? Yeah, so yeah, he's he's uh right now he's carrying the team. He's uh he's carrying the team. I'm I'm not surprised with your goal involvement statistics. So over the last three years, he's been our most consistent player year in, year out.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I agree with you 100%. And again, I know we still have some uh when I look at our bench today, right? I was kind of worried at the start of the game, in all honesty. Because if you look at the players like Nkunku, he's not really giving he's not given that much so far this season, probably because of maybe injury or because of his lack of full fitness, but he's not really given enough. And if you look at players like Jashari, which I think to me is should be playing by now, but because it's just recovering from injury as well, right? Like what's your thoughts on our bench so far? Do you think like how you think Milan's Milan management should just focus on maybe adding a couple of players, which is obviously we're gonna need a striker in January, and maybe one defender, or you think like they should still need to beef off this, beef up this um the the the the bench if we want to compete for the Skudeto because it's gonna be a little bit more intense in the second half of the season, right? I told you before that uh Milan only has one game per week to play.
SPEAKER_01:The one game per week, you cannot bring in too many quality players because then they will get their discharge disenchant dischanted, and then they want to probably go look for minutes to play somewhere, right? Yeah, that was how they got rid of all the forwards that Milan had this season, all the strikers, because you can only make room for one or two maximum. Now, I still believe between you and I that the uh the biggest area of need for this team is in attack, is a striker. Milan and Conko is not an out, he's not a striker. Uh Milan needs an Milan needs a striker, an out-on-out striker. I don't care what shape or form or how they come, some someone to be there that we can actually rely on, right? Now, like Jimenez, I've said it before, can still turn around and maybe chip in a few goals here and there. But again, I don't even know what kind of injury he has now that he can't even come in and do, you know, the work he used to do before where you say he's working hard, he's running around. He can't even do that anymore. The striker becomes a is a top priority in midfield. I don't think we need anybody else. Um, I think the midfield is pretty settled unless some catastrophic injury happens. We haven't seen Jasari yet, right? Jasari. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think no, I I I I watched him in the little scrimmage game that he played. Yeah, but he will he will need to play, right? Yeah, yeah, the friendly like I think he he pre- he plays similar more similar, like like um like Modric. You know what I mean? Okay, but yeah, but think about it.
SPEAKER_01:Modric today didn't he play 90 minutes. Oh, yeah, that's true. I mean, obviously, like yeah, no, but the point I'm trying to get across is that there's Modric. Okay, let me even tell you how it's gonna work. There's Modric, there's Rabio, there's Fofana. None of those three people, as far as their legs and their heart is working, that they are going to uh Allegro will take them pinch them. Then now you have Samuel Samuel Samuele Ricci, who's now the fourth thing coming. Then now you have uh maybe every now and then they will toss in a Ruben Lofty's chick, either for as an attacking player or a midfielder, depending.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, lofty chick is play more of more of an attacking this thing.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but then okay, I'm just saying we have about five midfielders for three midfield positions, and basically two or three of them barely ever miss games or they don't come out, right? Model, as long as it's fit, he's gonna play. So, and you only have one game per week. So, the point I'm trying to make is we are no we don't need midfielders. Okay, Milan doesn't need any additional midfielders. We don't really technically need like the I think the midfield part is solid already again. But I don't know the doubt too, right? We only we only need a striker, Milan needs a striker, and Milan needs a fullback. Milan needs a fullback, like a left fullback. What why are you laughing? You've given up on a stupid that quick, bro. Like a 17-year-old took his job. Milan needs a left full back.
SPEAKER_00:It's a 19 this 19-year-old, and stupid is not that old either, so don't come and say this.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, Milan needs Milan needs a left fullback. Right fullback, uh, I think we can manage. I like Alexis as a right fullback because the reason I like him is because uh he gives enough defensively that you can, it's serviceable. Think about it, he has played against all the big teams in Italy, nobody's left, and he hasn't been exposed like that defensively, right? You can't say, Oh my god, Alexis was so bad today, like a stupid was against Napoli, that you should throw him out of the window. And then guess what? Going forward, he also gives you a lot more than the other player. So it's so strange how things work out, eh? Like, you know, and he solidified that position technically, because that's exactly his profile of player, is exactly what you need for a wingback at that in that formation. Someone who is attack, who can attack and then can give you enough defensively. You don't need them to even be a defensive story, you just need them to do enough. Like, not to sound like an ass, the perfect player for this lineup would have been Teo Hernandez on the left side. Yeah, yeah. Because it would have been too perfect for him, right? Yeah, good. And for for uh Salamarcas, he's doing exactly that on the right side. The issue is you don't have that on the left now.
SPEAKER_00:With Batasaki, Batasaki turned out to be that person, we don't know yet, but he's but the thing is though, like your your view, your your you're analyzing this this this this um formation and shape based on the attacking abilities, but it doesn't work like that. Like Alegri, Alec is not the quote. Okay, sorry. Alec is not the code that woman being asking you, asking both left and right to attack him. It's not it doesn't do you don't do stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:You're missing you're missing the point. So let me tell you something. This is how it works, right? If either of your players cannot do the job, then it basically says your focus goes on one side, right? It's no different than when Milan used to play with Pulitz and not Politic Leao. Everybody knows that it's Leao. If you double team him, then nothing else happens, right? So the reality is that if that's why I bring up the tomorrow thing, if tomorrow cannot help, then that means everybody knows that they have to go through Pavlovich's side. If they have to go through Pavlovich and uh what's his name, Alexis, right? No, it's a Pavlovich and this guy.
SPEAKER_00:It's not like it's not like it's not it's not that tomorrow cannot help. You cannot leave Gabia that cannot run all by himself.
SPEAKER_01:You're not yeah, I think when I say help, all I'm asking is better outlet passes. That's it. Like better, like you know, like don't just give passes that put people in trouble, like and then before you know we lose. But he's not doing that. Well, he is so like give me a reference.
SPEAKER_00:Give me an example of this. So you know, bro. You you're talking about a guy. I sent you the start today. You couldn't even see anything. You're you're just you're making you're making up stuff. We're not going to credit this.
SPEAKER_01:We're not going to go into detail.
SPEAKER_00:Let's talk about it. No, no, no. Let's talk about let me go back. You're a normal guy, right? Let me give you an example. You're maybe you're you're an engineer, right? You're in your workplace, for example. Now you have you are asked to supervise two people. One person is lifting pallets, doing stuff, and is putting in his number and it's showing on the state on the data that this guy is working very, very, very effectively. And then that guy is busy running around in front of you and again doing less and breaking pallets. And you now come and tell me that oh, the guy that is running around in front of you, breaking pallets, is better than the guy that's putting in numbers. It doesn't work like that. What I'm trying to make you understand is Tomori's responsibility is quite there for you to see. His job is to protect Gabia and protect the defense in case of any sort of counter-attack. That's why you never seen. You see, the last two games that we play without him, wait, Pizza against against Palmer. What happened in those games? We consider stupid goals because the winter didn't really understand his role. It was like I was watching the game against Palmer when we're we still were under pressure, serious pressure. I saw the winter going forward.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so like the thing is that between between Pavlovich and Tomori, right? The only difference you say numbers, I'm looking at it. We talk about defensive contributions. According to Fort Mob, the both of them had exactly the same defensive contribution.
SPEAKER_00:Look at it very well. The one I sent you. I'm just I sent you I sent you stats, it's right there in front of you.
SPEAKER_01:What I'm just saying, so what's the in this game? The defensive contributions are 12, 12 to 12. Touches they they had 54 for Pavlovich, 58 for tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00:Look, what I say, like you look at the tackles won three over three for tomori, zero over two for for Pavlovich.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sorry, sorry. Head clear guy, please headed clearance. Pavlovich had five headed clearance. Tomori had two. Okay, grand dwarves won. Pavlovich had sorry, Pavlovich had two recoveries. Tomori had one. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Look at the grand duels that won four over five of Tomori 80 to Pavlov. Look at the touches that Tomori had. And then sorry's touches. Again, I'm telling you. Look at the look at the touches. Look at the passing. Look at the pass accuracy. Like, this is what I want you to understand. Pass accuracy, he only got one pass better than he he had one pass. Tomori that you are yapping that said he's not doing it. He had 54 passes today.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he actually can I yeah, okay. Let me tell you, you I don't know if you're watching the back of the TV. So even the commentator.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's you that's watching because you're looking at starting photo. You're still trying to make a case out of a covenant start thing. Start is the fault of you here. He said somebody has six clearance to Pavlovich three, but you didn't mention that, or you were going on to the things that Pavlovich is no better. Okay, guy, you're being biased. Okay, wait, hold on. What I'm trying to say, the start is not the phone of you. I i screenshotted and sent it to you.
SPEAKER_01:It's there. Look at it. No, I'm looking, I'm looking at the phone. Oh, you what are you? You're looking at the back of your phone. What are you doing? So so, Dave, hold on, hold on one second. The point is this, right? Like, again, you have to realize that just because somebody is passing the ball does not necessarily mean that they're passing the ball in a way that helps it.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I was expecting from you. That's the play. Look, guy, you you call yourself a numbers, guy, right? The numbers should go in front of you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're not looking at the right numbers that you're looking at. No, no, I see. I see.
SPEAKER_00:Like, even so you mean that you you discredit you discredit someone that has six clearance in the game to someone that has three and end up committing faults that lead us to penalty. You know that if it was tomorrow that had committed that irrational tackle today and then led to penalty, I know what you will have been saying. People like you and Leo will have come in and be saying, Oh, yeah, look at tomorrow yeah, as usual, no this and that.
SPEAKER_01:Again, that tackle, the tackle, the tackle, to be honest with you, it's if not for Sierra, he went to block a ball, he threw his leg and the leg landed on somebody's leg and it called it a penalty. So don't do this. That tackle was reckless. Period. How's he reckless? He went to block a cross. Call a spade a spade. I'm not telling you it is not a penalty, but the reality is that it is a penalty on the in Sierra standard, right? Because I'm telling you that I have seen in England where people shoot the ball and it still kick them, they don't call it penalty. So in Italy, you make contact with somebody's foot in the 18-yard box, it's a penalty. We've seen it before where was it not tomorrow or somebody that mistakenly dropped their leg and stamped on somebody? Like at the end of the day, the way Italy officiates the game, that thing is a penalty, right? It is because he went, he stomped on the guy in the box. But the stamping is what I'm trying to explain to you that it wasn't like he just you know clumsily did it. No. The uh what's it called? Um, he went to block a cross by uh to Ram. To Ram crossed the ball. Okay, can I ask you a question, Dave? Let me ask you one question, please. Please, where would his leg land after he threw his leg to cross that ball? Will he land on the in the like the leg will disappear?
SPEAKER_00:As a defender, you make you make calculative tackles, right? Once you know that your defender is your striker is about to make a cross. You can't tell me because for the fact that, oh, you want to go and block the shot, you cannot control your leg and go and step on the step on the guy's. If that's how everybody's gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:The guy shot the ball and his leg will stop there, and then the ball. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:He stepped on the shooting, he stepped on he stepped on Ram. Even he stepped on Tura's foot, like like cluttered into him. Like, why obvious? Okay, like when we when I start replay, I need to use the penalty. There's no doubt about it. What are you saying? You cannot come and be defending Pavlovich. The arrow is there. Like, I'm not looking. What I'm what I'm saying, look, I'm not trying to discredit what Pavlovich is one of our best defenders. And Pavlovich, Gabia, and Tomori, whenever three of them play, you always have the best game. It's just as simple as that. So I'm not discrediting Pavlovich's work or whatever. But don't say because Pavlovich attacks a lot, because he has this, and this don't say because he attacks a lot, that doesn't take anything away from Tomori. Tomori's job is to make sure like Gabia is protected in the defense line. If you notice even today's game, whenever I see Gabia taking the ball and pushing the ball forward, Tomori is always dropping his side to protect him. And there's a reason. And whenever we're on the counter, Tomori is always caught in force to try to like stop the game because again, he's quick, he's faster than Pavlovich and Gabia. And that's his job. And again, you cannot expect Tomorrow to be joining the attack and be going forward when we have Alexei Salamaka's day already that can do the job. Batsagi doesn't have that sort of ability to go forward and be running up and down, which is the more reason why you see Pavlovich going to the middle whenever we're on a counter-attack.
SPEAKER_01:So it's still everybody so on this whole season, the entire season, like you would say tomori has contributed more to whatever than Pavlovich. What am I? I didn't see as contributed more. No, because if the reason I'm bringing it up is because the only reason the only thing I said to you was that my problem with Tomori is that he's so limited on the ball that whenever the ball goes to his side, right? It's hard. What do you expect him to do with the ball? Tell me. Okay, if you if it was actually Alexis and Pavlovich on the same side, you might actually get more creativity out of that side. Tomori, to be honest with you, he kills the killing.
SPEAKER_00:That's what that's what you're not understanding. You cannot have Pavlovich running forward and having Alexis at the same time doing the same thing. You're gonna expose your defense.
SPEAKER_01:This is just a no- No, but okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're saying running forward is the way you make it seem as if like somehow, right? There's the there's an instruction that's it, because basically, if the ball is on the other side of the field, you cannot expect the the the center back to make that run all the way. But the reality is that if the center back, if the center the ball is on the center on this side of the field, think of inter Milan. The reason why Bastoni is involved in a lot of play, right? Like that is because of uh what's his name? Um DiMarco, right? Because Demarco is on that side of the field, so the ball always goes towards DeMarco, and then as a result, Bastoni comes to support him. But I'm telling you that Milan's best at winger is Alexis. Yet hardly do you ever see Tomori come to support? That's the problem, right? Because again, like I said, Pavlovich, you cannot leave Gabia. Gabia does not have peace. But you can't leave you are making it seem as if like when the ball is on the side where Alexis is, that Pavlovich is also bombing forward. That's not true. No, he only has to make overlapping rap when the ball so man, this guy, man. Look, he only has to make overlapping runs when the ball is on the left side of the field, when Milan is attacking from the left, then he has to help push move the ball forward. The problem is that what he does, putomori does not do it on the right side as well. And I'm telling you that that is the issue, but you won't listen because you're okay. Like I'm saying, like what do you like to change?
SPEAKER_00:I've asked you this question, but you know, did I tell you?
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, did I tell you that? Okay, when I said that, did I did I actually tell you that the problem was did I say Gabiya needs to do the same thing? No, I'm telling you that the information that Milan plays, the issue with Tomori on the ball is that that is not his strong suit. Unless, of course, you tell me that I'm misunderstanding that tomorrow is very good on the ball and he's gotten instruction all of a sudden that he should not because tomori was so good on the ball, they would be make they will be actually using him to make those moves rather than trying to use the other side of the field. It doesn't work on his why do you think so? Okay, so so to you, since you've been watching tomori for almost five years, you believe that one of his strengths is his ability on the ball.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so who's the quickest defender? Is that what I asked you? No, answer me first. Who's the who's the quickest? Who's the fastest? Who's who's the quickest defender we have in our center back? Tomori. Good. So you expect Tomori to be actually joining the attack and going forward or playing making progressive play, which he does, anyways. But having knowing that you have Salimakaz that does most of the uh one-on-one, he's very good at one-on-one. He does all these things. You did there's a reason everybody has a role change. If again, like I said, look at what happened in the last two games. I watched Pizza, I watched Pama, right? When the winter played these two games, you can tell how funny people are and how digital.
SPEAKER_01:Are you comparing the winter to the to tomorrow? Then what I thought you said tomorrow was one of the best five best defenders in the world. Oh, come on, but the winter is is is is under par, right? You cannot play for ball. Because yeah, if to if the winter was better than tomorrow, he will be playing. It's a fact, right? The winter is not is not better than tomorrow. Doesn't mean that tomorrow is top five defender in the world.
SPEAKER_00:What I'm doesn't mean that tomorrow is also all of a sudden like this is the chain. I never this conversation we're talking about. I never mentioned tomorrow as top five. You bought it no, I'm only telling you that in the group chat, you always you call him top five, right?
SPEAKER_01:The point is, let me tell you the truth. What I I want so between you and I, right? I think it is a futile conversation. So for me, I can tell you that you you always bring this up as if there's something going on with Tomori. When he plays for England, let me use England for example. Tomori plays for England. England does not right now, they don't have they don't have like world-class defenders. They have people playing for Aston Villa, Ezra Consa, they have people playing for Crystal Palace, McGee.
SPEAKER_00:Honestly, we can I've not really said, I've not, I've not received it.
SPEAKER_01:It gets on your nerve. You know why it gets on your nerves because it's fact. Let me tell you why it's fact now. The previous coach of England never called him up because, first of all, he said he was mistake prone, and then he didn't really like what he gave to him, what he gave in terms of his passing ability. That was one of the rationale. Now, the new coach, which is uh Tomas Tuco, never also called him up. He doesn't call him up, right? Even though technically there's a new coach, there should be a new opportunity for it to come up. Now, instead, it's a guy.
SPEAKER_00:How many players in Sierra R is being called to the national team of England? Quite a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Look, this is a very similar. This is similar, this is similar that you're talking about now. Like if every time they go for international rig, majority of their players do go, except for a few hands. How many players are being called from Syria R to the English national team? How many players in England in Italy right now are worthy of being called to the English national team? You answer that question. How many it's English players playing it Syria R that you know of that are worthy of being called to their national team? Let me ask you the question. So you wanted to call Ruben Lost his chick. Who else is there now? Let's not no let me ask you now. So you wanted to call you what you wanted to call Ruben Lost his chick and uh tomori.
SPEAKER_00:I just want you to know something, eh? You see this this whole English national team that you reason to rob on Tomori, thinking like he's not worthy of like he hasn't deserved to be called to the national team. You just check yourself and actually ask yourself the question like, are you being sincere with this thing that you do for Tomori? I'm being very concerned because even when Tomori was at his peak, let's forget the back that okay, five years drop the beat. Even when he was at his peak in his season, he was never called. Those are those moments that you should actually question and say, Hey, is South Gate really what guy? Look, let's just let's let's look.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to look, I don't want to tell you because we're anybody that is a good player, that everybody agrees universally is a good player, he usually goes to their national team unless they have direct problem with the head coach.
SPEAKER_00:So the problem is that so so you you don't understand how the English English national team works, right?
SPEAKER_01:Tell me how, please, because now the next thing you're going to tell me is once you leave England, they don't call you, but then somehow Harry Kane is their best ever player, he doesn't play for England. They take a better striker than Harry Kane in this world. So that's the moon. They were even calling Jordan Henderson from uh from uh Saudi Arabian League to come and play for them.
SPEAKER_00:So that's so that no, so you're comparing so Jordan Henderson, Jordan Henderson's position, you're comparing it with tomori. Guy, look at the case. No, this the point is your your argument is being you're being biased with your argument. Sorry, I will just move on. Okay, I think what you're saying is just look, yeah, you will talk about this all night, and again, we'll just be wasting time.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, you know, yeah, so again, again, I will land my state, my plane. My plane is this it's very simple. Plain, I believe that again, the tomori tomori's uh again, I'm not telling you that he's not helping Milan this season, don't get me wrong, but I'm telling you that you're complaining about how Milan doesn't attack well, and I'm saying there's so many limited players in in on the squad that causes the attack to stall most of the time. And one of those people from a defensive standpoint is tomori because when the ball comes to his side, I don't think a lot comes out of it. That's just my thing.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm gonna I'm gonna learn my plane where you're landing that tomori is not the prime over attack. Every every player in this team has that like they've got their own responsibilities, and Tomori's responsibility is not creating gold for Milan. It's his responsibility is to start the attack. No, you know, you understand what I'm saying now.
SPEAKER_01:Like we have players, it's to stop attack, it's to stop attack, it's to stop attack from the opposition as well as from Milan.
SPEAKER_00:You tell me you just make it a more crazy, but that's good. Look, the thing is right now, with the way season is going, right? You know, I told you initially, I said Roma is is my dark horse, right? And again, they're proving it right now. So sorry, on the on that on the Gasparini. Like, do you think they will be able to, you know, to ride along with the likes of Milan, Napoli, and Inter, like all to the end of the season, or you think at some point they will drop?
SPEAKER_01:Uh I think they will they will put it in a Champions League position. The problem Roma has is that they lose to they lose big games, right? That's the problem, right? When I say they lose big games, I think the only big game I can think of them winning so far this season is against uh Lassio, right? And that's the big derby that they won one nothing, right? Well they played AC Milan, they played in time Milan, they played uh even uh I think Torino beat them this season, right? So again, Milan's problem is that we drop points against small teams. So Roma's problem is that they cannot beat the big teams head to head.
SPEAKER_00:So when the season's got a big they have a big one coming actually on Sunday Sunday, which is um they play Napoli against Napoli, yeah. Yes, which is one of the best that they will lose. Um, honestly speaking, like the way Napoli has been.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, no, I preferred. I think they should get draw, 2-2, right? 2-2 draw, whatever. I don't care. But I know that Roma will find a way to lose the game. Now, why I'm bringing that up is because there's a reason Gasparina, even when Atalanta were that they're their best, they never won the league, right? They can do well, they can finish second, third, fourth, but they won't win the league. So Roma will not win the league. They are doing well, I'm happy for them. They are being resetting into a respect, a respectable uh sport, which again, I see it is one of the most uh difficult leagues to win because of the fact that it's it's uh there's a lot of parity, right? And everybody, nobody you never know who's going to show up with one or two additional uh new players on their squad and become a powerhouse all of a sudden for that season, right? And it looks like Roma is one of that is that is that team this year, the Dark Horse team this year. Yeah. Now, that being said, uh actually rather Roma be in front while Milan is. chasing than a team like Inter Milan or even Napole. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you understand what I mean.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like because I feel I have a belief that we will we should be able to catch up with Roma at some point towards the tail end of the season rather than Inter. If Inter takes if Inter goes ahead there we're playing Lazio on Saturday. Let's let's let's just quickly that's it that's a tough game but I'm not worried I think Milan will beat Lazio. Yeah you know what honest speaking when it comes to games like this I know maybe so probably we'll again we'll base this on the fact uh you know Milan show up in big games right and again it's gonna be at the San Ciro so hopefully we Milan Milan will beat Lazio first of all first of all normally like on the normal Milan always beats Lazio like you know you know what I mean like you no matter like the coach you want to talk about like you know like at home we actually do beat Lazio like Lazio is one of those teams that I know once in a while they give us a tough time but typically like they are not like uh the team that you say oh my god uh you go in and you're always scared of I know the results might say otherwise but you ask yourself whenever you play Lazio do you ever sit back and you're worried except we have a useless coach typically that's when Lazio takes up when Milan is in their punk I remember the time they beat Milan 3 nothing that was the time like they beat Milan 3 nothing one stupid 3 nothing game that was the time they fired the coach uh what what's your friend's name giampalo uh around that period and then they brought him to only or something like that what I remembered yeah around that period like I I always every time Milan is in bad form if they meet Lazio Lazio beat them but Milan is in feeling confident and they're in good form they always take care of Lazio so I believe we can take care of Lazio worst case is of course the one draw but I think we should beat Lazio then we should focus our energy because we have a lot of small teams coming after Lazio that we can rack up points if they can figure this whole thing out with small teams and dropping points against small teams yeah uh so yeah it's a it's a big big uh weekend except in Tamilan who ends up with uh pizza and with pizza into pizza like eight nothing and then Hakan will score like a hat trick eight nothing hackham score hat trick and then and then uh Roma and Napoli they are going to end up uh in my own opinion I hope they draw and then Juventus is playing Kaglery so like the the big games with Milan and then Roman Napoli again like I said I'm happy it's Roma and Roma on top rather than any of the other teams juventus has basically like regardless of the fact that they they fired the coach let me ask let me ask for them I know it's only 12 games so far right if you have to to predict your top four at the end of the season. Top four at the end of the season will be exactly the way it is right now. So Roma Milan not in that order right Roma Milan Napoli uh inter Milan uh Bologna will finish top five and Juventus will be around there right last year last year basically the way this the table looks now I'm not even kidding that's how the table will look almost for the end of the season with the exception of moving people around like if you look at the table Como Como is the surprise team of the year they will end up around seventh or eight right yeah which usually happens here always has one of those teams every every two to three years. Bologna is Bologna now they've now solidified themselves as European team so but they won't they won't finish more than more than sixth Juventus will jump 10 right Juventus will go fifth. And then you have Lazio Lazio will finish around there between 7th and 8th the rest of the team I don't see anybody like I don't see the only thing is I hope Fiorentina doesn't get relegated but I don't see any other team jumping Atlanta is the only one that looks like they are an outlier yeah they might end up around 10th but they are not going to do anything that unique atlanta is not going Atlanta is not going to Europe this season.
SPEAKER_00:In fact I can tell you that they'll sell Luke man media through the season they will sell him in January huh I don't think they'll sell Lucman in January I'll probably end the season okay because what happened is look they won't be able to get a better deal for him in in January but anyway um Jane let's quickly just do um I know we've not done this in a minute but let's just quickly do it let's just let's just quickly just do some our ranking you know um give me your top three in today's game Mike Millan Mike Millan was my uh number one by by far um I think who else did a good job today I was actually okay to be honest with you like I think um Milan it was mostly defensive performance by Milan that it it kind of takes away from some of the work that was done by other people right so I know Mike Milyan did a good job Alexis always kind of surprises me because these games don't face him so Alexis is Alexis is up there for me and then last but not the least I will just give it to Polisic for the goal that he scored so yeah that's it yeah my own top three obviously number one Mike Minyan um amazing today like stepped up in the right time to save that penalty because the pressure like on him at that point this is after you complain that he after you proved in the group that he never saves penalty Don Aroma was better at saving penalty he has gone like I said he had gone two games now taking penalties he'd done back to back now that's number one number two I think Modric was very good today off the ball like his ability off the ball today was just amazing because again like they didn't really give him that much you know space to be able to you know dictate the pace of the game and walk on the ball that much or at least off the board his defending he was his positioning was very right on spotted the spot on today so that was good and the last one is I'll give it to Batasagi and Tomori because Batasagi for me personally I thought maybe his experience was going to be um do you have to name tomori do you have to name tomori in the name tomorrow your life your life went I have to comment to actually made a comment about you too that tomorrow today is actually was actually exceptional. So yeah I'll give it to him as well like he's was exceptional today as well um again Alexis is also like someone we need to and notable um notable names alex talamacas was very good today even off the ball like he showed like he was I saw him like you know doing some clearance like you know he he did he was amazing today overall like and I think this team in general the only issue that I had was initially with Fofana not doing enough but again he stepped up and he contributed to the goal because without him I don't think we'll have actually you know got that three points because he was able to at least win the ball pick up the pass and drive the ball like 20 to 30 yards and um lead the ball to to Alexander Maka so I think I'll give him credit as well for for what he did. To me overall this team scored depth wise I don't think we really have enough we still have to do more but at the end of the day this is what and again let's give it up for allegory too allegory is he's doing an awesome job because I can tell you that some coaches will pick this team and complain about many things like the squad depth and everything like that. He's been amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Allegri is very predictable. As soon as his people are fit he'll play them he's not going to he's not going to miss miss words he's not there he's as plain as vanilla so uh so yeah he's not uh missing words i i actually do like that about him is that it's a very predictable lineup he doesn't try to outsmart himself right yeah the to your point about lack of squad depth that's not his fault it's not him that kind of signs the players hopefully in January again I think Milana doing everything right right now to prepare themselves for a title push which starting I think Pep said it early best this weekend he said the season real season starts now because I don't think they have an international break until next year. So any more international break so all you're doing now is just playing football like league football for the next two to three months right yeah and I don't even think they're going to have December break this year maybe they do because World Cup is coming and so on and so forth. So all I'm trying to say is that uh we are doing the right things we win a few games now the year ends January opens then we can sign players to push for if Milan were maybe eight eight points off the table or ten points off the top of the table there wouldn't be conversations around let's reinforce for January right yeah but now we've we've done so well that we can we've earned the right to compete for the league and it's one of those seasons where there's so much I say I said in the year so much inconsistency everybody has problems that you can actually come out and win the league and then maybe you can stop talking about purely for once because someone else has showed up and won the league.
SPEAKER_00:Anyways guys exactly okay anyways guys thank you so much been a pleasure talking about Milan Chin thank you so much for your time um we will be you and I will argue about tomorrow today don't don't don't I did not agree about my I did not agree about tomorrow don't stop stop disrespecting my boy top five show respect top five yes top five man we are we got we're gonna leave it as that so forget about it um anyways thank you so much hopefully we'll come back again um next weekend and talk about Milan um after the larger game hopefully we come with a very good good result because if we win the larger game obviously we're gonna go on to put the league so hopefully um and then hopefully Roman and Napoli draw exactly and uh Roman Napoli draws yeah thank you so much it's been a pleasure thanks again for that five thousand five thousand downloads means a lot we're looking forward to seeing you guys to talking to you guys again next week have a wonderful week change for Zami Lanas take care bye bye bye