CCPL Podcast
CCPL Podcast
2024 Playoffs Round 2 Podcast
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We're down to the CCPL Final Four! Join Producer Tim, League Mouthpiece Miles, Commissioner Kyle, just a guy Quincy for this week's pod. Listen as the boys rehash the last 2 weeks of action and highlight the final playoff matchups.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Oh, it's podcast time, guys. We're live in studio. Commissioner, producer Tim, Miles, and Quincy, we're here.
SPEAKER_02Nothing really matters when you think about it. What is what is Vincy football? What are we? What is anything? What is football?
SPEAKER_04I get it.
SPEAKER_02I've been saying this all season.
SPEAKER_04You know, uh this is like a nihilist podcast. I'm kind of playing it up. I'm in a good mental headspace right now.
SPEAKER_03The thing is, like, it it sucks for I mean, it obviously sucks for you. You just you ran up against an absolute buttons. Corbin Beamer. Corbin Beamer's known to have a really competitive team. It's one of those things. You almost would have wish you would have been like a Cody this week where you put up like 60, 70 points and you're like, hey, nothing I could have done, but you put up good points.
SPEAKER_04It's just like there's a what are you gonna do? I beat everyone except two teams. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right. Hang, we we're really diving into things. There's been a lot that's happened since we did this last week. I owe you guys an apology.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What what happened last week? We were ready to pod.
SPEAKER_02We were ready to go. Wait, that was last week? Yeah. Yeah, let me paint the picture. I thought that was this week. And and I know we have a lot of families who listen to this pod, so maybe just tell the kids to put some headphones on. Oh, it's kidding. So I go to Grand Rapids for work on Monday night, Tuesday night, drive home Wednesday. Everything's going fine. Beautiful Grand Rapids. Nice town if you haven't been. Gorgeous. So I there's snow in Grand Rapids, so I get my ass up super early in the morning and start driving back. Try to avoid the lake effect. Take this big long route. So I get down south, I stop in Charlotte, Michigan. And I get McDonald's breakfast and one donut from Quality Dairy, which is a fantastic, maybe not so much, Lansing based. So I'm south of Fort Wayne, and things just start to not feel good. And there was a moment, friends, where I was puking my guts up on the side of I-60. Better out of the mouth than Wow, wow, that's sure. That's fair. That's how quickly it hit. I mean, it it kind of like lingered. Somewhere between Fort Wayne and Muncie.
SPEAKER_04Has to have been something with the McDonald's.
SPEAKER_02Do you think it was the donut, the McDonald's? Was it something from the night before? Unclear. And then the funny thing, and I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm putting it all out there because then I was like, okay, one and done. You ever just like puke and rally? Of course. Yeah. All the time. All right. Oh weekly, honestly. The copper space. Every morning. So I just go straight to the office and I'm like, okay, still not feeling awesome, but maybe this is it, you know, maybe, maybe that was it. So having lunch with Greg Lennon, Friend of the Pod and Joe Elsner. Joe Elsner gets in the car. We drive to Harry and Izzy's lovely restaurant. I was not feeling great. I told Greg this. I'm like, listen, I'm not like, I'm like a I'm at like third power right now, but it was a lovely lunch. But I'll have some ice water.
SPEAKER_01Just give me ice chip.
SPEAKER_02Joe, I think I can drink through this. Joe, Joe Elsner and I walk across, what is that, Illinois Street after lunch, going back to the garage, and it just comes roaring back. And it goes again in the parking garage garbage can.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So you're still not sure. How does Joe react to this? Are you shitting it?
SPEAKER_02Joe Joe, who is a lovely guy, it was just sort of like, hey man, I get it. And I'm worried I got him sick, if I'm being honest. Shout out to Joe if he was poisoning. Was there any number two during this? Or was all really, but there was just a lot of just things weren't feeling good. And so that was when I was like, listen, I this is I think I I put the He gave us the questionable tag. I gave you the questionable tag, and you know what that means. And um I just think it would So did you come home after that lunch? Uh no, no. So the problem was is I am uh more or less stage managing the brain inaugural. And their only was the walkthrough? Yeah, their only walkthrough at the uh venue was that afternoon. I was like, I gotta be there. So I just sort of like you know, I just did it. Uh so yeah, it was uh It was impressive. It was a long afternoon, and sorry I had to miss. I was hoping you guys could maybe just still record, you know, do like the YouTube. I really wanted to, and I couldn't get these guys on board. Super stoked. Yeah, so I and the thing is what what kind of bummed me out is that was like us to pass the podcast. It's coming off Rivalry Week, coming off uh, you know, kind of launching the playoffs. So it was a big week that uh that we missed the pod, so I apologize that we had to kind of pull the plug at the last minute.
SPEAKER_04I don't know what's been wrong in my head, but I literally don't remember missing a pod. Like I thought that was this week.
SPEAKER_03So you were gonna probably end up missing the pod anyway, because you were coming back from DC, you got delayed, and then you left for West Virginia the next day. Oh, yeah, that's right. So that's why you would decay the next one.
SPEAKER_02We would have tried something, but well, and if I'm being honest, I just assumed that all you people would be at the great Indiana Farm Bureau convention, and maybe we could just do it then. So I went down to French Lick looking for CCPL members. Didn't you look at the blackjack table? One of you people there. So I thought you people were farmers.
SPEAKER_04Nope. So let's talk about week 14 going in the playoffs. I mean, I think the biggest thing to talk about is probably how the seating shook out. Well, it was rivalry week.
SPEAKER_03That's true. That's nice. Um I I'll tell you from our end, Cody got his first win in our rivalry um head-to-head matchups, I guess.
SPEAKER_04Tell me if you guys feel differently. It seems to me that the rivalries are not as strong right now. There's too much peace in the league. No one's upset with one another. It just felt like another week for everyone. And they're like, let's just get to the playoffs.
SPEAKER_03See, does that go hand in hand with just what I've been saying all year that it's like it's so hard. I mean, these teams that are left right now, even look at some of their rosters, and you're like, man, even these guys are scrambling putting these things together. And it's just like there's just nothing left. I was telling you the last week of the season, I was like, this is the most barren free agent like pool I've ever seen. It's like these guys don't even see the field on their own teams, and they're like the only people to pick up.
SPEAKER_04Um so I what do you attribute that to?
SPEAKER_03But is is some of that that all of us are just I don't know, less passionate about?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't I don't think that's it. I mean, look at the projected points for these guys, it's nowhere near what it was a couple years ago with with opportunity. Like there were usually three, four receivers. We'd be like, Yeah, like that guy's a good flyer. Yeah, there's not even flyers anymore.
SPEAKER_02You're like, if that guy catches a 60-yard touchdown bomb, yeah, then like is it just that all these offenses are so schemed that there's not like quarterback modeling, there's nothing random.
SPEAKER_01Maybe our maybe our league's just gotten better. You don't think there's that case that we are better managers in general? Oh, certainly, but we've only got so many roster spots. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03There's more parody. But what you were saying was just um I mean, just overall, like our rivalries don't seem as intense as they used to be. But it's because like I feel like we're like we don't really make that many moves anymore or have that many problems with each other because we're all just like doesn't even fucking I I think it's a byproduct of age.
SPEAKER_04What is it?
SPEAKER_03Is it age?
SPEAKER_04Are we just I do think I do think part of it's age? And we're all pretty professional people in our own rights. Well, some of you are.
SPEAKER_03I think a lot of the contention in the league was probably 50% of the contention in the league was Cody and I. Over the yeah, Ken Miles stopped caring. And Cody and I are on good terms, right?
SPEAKER_01I don't really like know any of these rival, like rivals outside of you and Cody that it's gotten really I think most of it's been pretty Well, of course they're f they're they're friendly rivalries.
SPEAKER_03Quincy and Maxwell used to be fairly, I don't know, um that's true. Have some banter back and forth. But me and Scott have never is there anything you've been wanting to say about Scott?
SPEAKER_02So this would be the perfect time to do it. Uh I've never had a crush on Kimber.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's just that's really I love you like a sister.
SPEAKER_04But seriously, shout out Kimber. I mean, it's really hard for you to talk trash anyway since you get beat by Scotty 113.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, that was yeah, so the the biggest thing for I think part of it too was with the rivals. Nobody really cared about the rivals uh matchups. All we cared about was who was gonna be last in the league. Yeah. And yours truly, right here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Dude, we we have never had, I mean, we have never had this. There's always been a like two-win team that's the worst. And we just put this punishment in place last year, was the first year. But how crazy is it that like Kendall goes from if he loses that game, he's cleaning ditches, he ends up winning that game and gets a bye in the first round of the toilet bowl. Like that's the difference. Like his seating moved, you know, six spots, whatever it was. Um what if we ended up one, two, three, four, five, six teams finished at five and nine.
SPEAKER_04It's crazy. Are we content with rivalry week being the final week of the regular season? I don't know. I don't think I like it. Part of me likes the fact that you could prevent your rival from making the playoffs. Like that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But at the same time, and and I don't know if these like if this buy schedule is going to continue this way, but week 14 was one of the most aggressive bye weeks that we had.
SPEAKER_03The NFL just the NFL has watered down the entire league, and it's impacting our friendship, guys. It really is. Thanks a lot, Roger. Good dog.
SPEAKER_04So let's just zip through these. Maxwell wins our rivalry matchup 112 to 104.
SPEAKER_03What's that uh head-to-head at? Do you know?
SPEAKER_04It is three to one, Maxwell. Okay. Um, Kendall wins 122 to 88. I think that's his first. Is that his first win? I think so. Uh Kendall's team got got kind of hot here when it didn't matter.
SPEAKER_03Uh we'll mention it last week. He had the bye, it scores 140 points.
SPEAKER_04Uh Big Data wins 102 to 84. Is that even now? 2-2?
SPEAKER_03Um no. Uh that was uh Big Data's first rivalry one.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh Braden wins 127 to 80. I don't know what the makeup of that one is.
SPEAKER_03It's probably got to be even.
SPEAKER_01I think it's pretty, yeah. Jake wins 109 to 99 over Phil. I think that was the didn't Phil say that was the first time that he got their trophy? I'm sure that Jake got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That makes sense because Phil's had pretty good teams the last couple years. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh Zach Owen, 135 over Beamerd, 112. Who knows what's going on? I've got no idea what they can do. And then Scotty wins over the commissioner 113 to 101. Um relatively strong scoring week across the league. Um, no one, no one putting up Kyle-like numbers. Most people hovering around 90, topside of 100.
SPEAKER_02Um so uh getting out of rivalry week, that set up the seating for the playoffs. It did. So what did that look like?
SPEAKER_04So Scotty snuck in with the eighth seed, but interestingly enough, the commissioner, if I recall, nearly every scenario broke his way. All he had to do was win. Yeah, all I had to do is win, and then I made it in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it was one of those. I'm either last or I made it in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_04Isn't that crazy? Because he needed, I mean, what he needed to happen, um, you know, he needed Kendall to beat Pete. Yeah. He he needed um Cameron to lose to Braden. Yep. And he needed, I think he needed Miles to lose to Cody.
SPEAKER_01All three of those things happened.
SPEAKER_04And needed Jake to win.
SPEAKER_01He needed Jake to win. All I had to do was win my freaking matchup.
SPEAKER_03Couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. Now you're cleaning.
SPEAKER_01Story of my life. I like to clean in my ditch.
SPEAKER_03Kindle, I can't, I think Kindle, this might be the happiest Kindle's ever been in the C CPL. He doesn't have to clean ditches. I mean, this is as good as a championship for Kindle.
SPEAKER_04The crazy thing is closest as he's been. You play Zach Sharp and he puts up 35 points, but it's completely negated by Jordan Addison of all people putting up 35. Obviously, everyone saw that coming. Everyone saw that coming, yes. So anyway, so Scotty sneaks in with the eight seed, Kyle ends up in last place, the commissioner's cleaning ditches. What a year for the commissioner.
SPEAKER_01I mean, what a year. I mean started out real nice and then just slowly gradually from a resounding vote of no confidence to last place in the league. You might say WT. We have not voted yet. Don't say that.
SPEAKER_03Well, and didn't you have him? Your early, you know, your post-draft rankings had Kyle really high towards the top.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you you let me down too.
SPEAKER_01I know I yeah, I let lots of fans down.
SPEAKER_04So let's let's talk about playoff results from uh from round one. So Kendall and Cameron had buys in the losers bracket, so they did not have matchups. In the winner's bracket, we had the one seed. Maxwell playing laces out the eight seed. Maxwell wins pretty handily, 116 to 81. This one was really never in doubt. I mean, if you kind of track the percentages of probability for victory, Ryan had this for most most of the weekends.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, big for him. Mike Evans had 32 points. Um getting him back, he was injured for what, like a month for Maxwell. Um yeah, about a month. And so having him back is really huge for him. Um Justin Jefferson's just been really, really, really good all year, almost 17 points. Um that gets in the win, but Scotty only puts up 81. Um, Derek Henry didn't, you know, kind of let him down um less than seven points. Uh Westbrook Akenay finally stopped scoring touchdowns um last couple weeks. Uh, didn't get didn't get any points there. And then he starts Tank Bigsby instead of ETN. Yeah, it wouldn't have made a difference, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04The two seed, Jake from State Farm with the win over the seven seed, 85 to 61, pretty low-scoring affair. This one was kind of close for a while. Um Jake's gotta feel great about stealing the victory with that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, when you have Brock Purdy put up four points, that just yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, this Zach just had a I mean he ends up at seven and seven on the season. Um he just had a really didn't he have a weird team this year? It was it was Burrow and Chase who could score a hundred by themselves in a week, and then it was these other guys like Tyrone Tracy would pop off every once in a while, and then Darnon Mooney would have a good game. Puts up a goose egg in this one, Travis Kelsey. Wilson was incredibly volatile.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the way to describe this team this year was volatile. Yeah, yeah. Really unpredictable. So Jake advances. Um, my matchup, the advances with 85 points.
SPEAKER_03Like Jake's got to be like, man, I I dodged a bullet there for sure.
SPEAKER_04Uh my matchup, the three seed versus the six seed. And you know, I look, I think what's painful about this is everything I wanted to happen happened. I was like, I want to lose week 14 so I don't have a win streak. Get to play Corbin. I want to I get to play Corbin. Like everything I wanted, I'm like Lamar against the Giants.
SPEAKER_03You were in that lower bracket, so instead of having to go against Abbott or something. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Everything I wanted I couldn't have asked for more. Like the Edwin McCain song. You couldn't ask for more. What happened?
SPEAKER_02Except for maybe um one point from Cooper Cup. Yeah, a goose egg from from Cooper.
SPEAKER_03On Thursday night that did not start it out. So what happened there?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I was drinking and playing blackjack, but apparently it didn't put up any points.
SPEAKER_01I wonder what the probability is losing when you have a player that puts up like that, that puts up zero points.
SPEAKER_03Your chances are gotta dramatically, you know, decrease your chance.
SPEAKER_04But I mean your other guys you know, well, I was tracking this pretty closely. You know how to goose egg at halftime for Beamer? Devontae Adams. Wow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he I had a goose egg at halftime. He had like a hundred and some yards and two touchdowns in the last like five minutes of that game. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Were you watching this and just like, were you watching these games at all?
SPEAKER_04No, thankfully, I was driving back from West Virginia.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And were you just kind of like updating it and like, what the fuck is happening? Uh what is happening?
SPEAKER_04So I I put myself on a schedule. I I didn't check scores and I didn't check scores until two o'clock. At two o'clock, he was still at zero, and I was like, all right, I'm not gonna check scores again for half hour. Um get on more level ground, don't be joking.
SPEAKER_03Because I was watching it and like your percentage to win was like still pretty solid, like through the one like most of the one o'clock games until I got up to 79% at one point.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Oh wow. Like Lamar in the 30s. And then even after this, I was up at 68%. Um and he, you know, he had uh Jameer Gibbs in the evening go off for 26, and he started off slow as well. I mean, the name of the game for Corbin was these big second half matchups. Um on Monday Night Football, Josh Jacobs had 17 points in the first quarter, and I'm like, okay, like I might be live here.
SPEAKER_02Um I have the feeling that Lions Bill's game screwed up a lot of people's fantasy weeks, just because there are so many points scored.
SPEAKER_04Well, I got off to a hot start too. Lamar Jackson put up 36, Terry McLaren had 22. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I I'm not a of course you never want to lose, but I how can you be mad about putting up 117 when a guy on your team has a goose egg? Just terrible luck.
SPEAKER_03Well, the thing is, like, there's nothing else you could have done though, because even if you flopped in Dobbs there instead of cup, which you would have never done, like you still wouldn't have won this matchup because Corbin gets 38 out of Devontae Adams. Jameson Williams had a really late Patrick Patrick Mahomes as well.
SPEAKER_04Like, I I don't want I'm not saying this, but I I'm gonna say this. Like, this is the Chris Balor thing. Like, I love my guys. Like, I love I hadn't like this is my team.
SPEAKER_03Like, but it's not like the Colts are competing at a high level. You were competing at a high level.
SPEAKER_04I was, thank you very much. All right. Uh the next, the final matchup in the winners bracket was uh big data versus Braden. This is the year 6.0. 131 to 58, doubles him up, was never close.
SPEAKER_03You know, if we would have had a podcast last week, you could see that Cody was running into some trouble this week. Um, he was getting injured at kind of the wrong time. Bucky Irving had been like kind of hobbled all week. Um uh Kenneth Walker was hurt, so it was like he was a little bit injured going into it. Then Tony Pollard goes down like mid-game for him. Um he had been starting Juwan Jennings, doesn't do anything in this. Jalen Waddle gets hurt, puts up a goose egg.
SPEAKER_01I think what in the end, what really hurt him was just he never had that wide receiver depth. Just even a really solid wide receiver, you know? Yeah he he had really good running backs, but sometimes it seems like you know, you have that running back that doesn't they just have an okay week, and then you need the wide receivers to balance that out. Just never happened for him. Of course, here I am.
SPEAKER_03On Titty's side, Josh Allen, 41 points. That is two weeks in a row, 52 and 41. And your boy Brian Thomas putting up 28. Insane. Do you miss him at all? I do miss him. He was uh Braden's texting me, bitching about David Montgomery going down. Oh, what am I gonna do? And I'm like, oh, I feel so fucking sorry for you. I feel so sorry for you. Well, Annie lost Chubb.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean Young Ho. Yeah, so DeAndre Swift. That's his that's his chance.
SPEAKER_03Right or die. Yeah, he gets the win. I mean, uh we didn't know we haven't mentioned this, but Titty has made the playoffs all seven seasons or six seasons he's been in the league. Is that right?
SPEAKER_04I think so.
SPEAKER_03Was his second year a 2.0, or did he use Titty 1.0 in his second year? I think it's this is his second year.
SPEAKER_02You know, I know that I know that there's been some, and we can talk about next week's matchups, but it really does feel like the two best teams in this league, Maxwell, Braden, and they're playing each other this week.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you say that, Tim, but you gotta watch out for a guy like Corbin Hamer right now. Just might put up 140. Um I will say, so Quincy, you mentioned this earlier today, you know, knowing now where you are, it's almost like you would you would rather be in the loser's bracket than lose the first round of the playoffs.
SPEAKER_04No way. No, never. You want to be in the mix.
SPEAKER_03Have you already figured out where is the draft order so far?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So current draft order would be um from what we know, Miles at five, Pete at six, Cody at seven, Zach at eight, Scotty at nine, Quincy at ten. So what we've done, so in the losers bracket, whoever scores higher when they're eliminated gets the better seating. On the winner's bracket side, whoever scores less gets the better seeding. It's the incent of trying to win in a loser's bracket situation and not being as good in a winner's bracket situation.
SPEAKER_03I'm happy about that. That's as high as I've 10 years. And it's gonna be great. Isn't that a lot better than a 10?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I think I did okay with my slot this past year. Yeah, we moved it 11.
SPEAKER_01I can't remember. So in the losers, do we do it as the combination of all the matchups through that whole period? Like it's the total and then we average the points out so that you're still keeping that roster. Well, because you have you still then go into these like 13. Oh, those don't matter. I couldn't remember if it still had to do with getting enough points. I should know because I said it last year, but I kind of already forget it.
SPEAKER_03So what, moving on to this week? Let's do it. I mean we didn't go through the uh the loser's bracket. Oh yeah, we didn't. Who cares? Let's do quickly, just to quickly mention him. Um Phil beats Pete 97 to 81. Climate filled those holes. He really did. I mean, he won what, like six of his last seven, eight games, something like that. He filled the holes. Um like we said, Cameron and uh Kendall both got the buys. Um Kyle beats me 102 to 101.
SPEAKER_01It was a real okay, so Monday night, right, you had two players.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um sincere McCormick and uh um fucking Odunze.
SPEAKER_01So like I when I had at the well on Monday morning, I saw that you still had those players. I think you were projected to beat me by like 10 points. Yeah, I was like a 70% chance to win. We went to uh me and Kisha went out to the Justin Timberlake concert, so I just totally like you know, I didn't even check scores, just even kind of forgot about it. Because I just was like, I'm not gonna win. Yeah. And then I woke up in the morning and I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_03So I got an update, I wasn't watching anything. I got an update that uh McCormick was headed to the locker room, and I was like, and this is like first quarter, and I'm like, motherfucker. Like, and then I know Dunsey's not gonna do anything, hasn't done anything all goddamn year. So it's like I don't just one more catch, though. One catch, yeah. One one single catch at any point would have done it. How was uh Timber like you know it was just in Timber?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I was checks out so like it was basically so I went to the 2020 experience. Brainball Black Santa Claus. That was I can't wait, what are you just now catching up to this? Yeah, yeah. Wait, what happened? Just keep reading. I'm sure it's been busy. Just keep reading. Um yeah, it you know, it was fun though. I it I had a good time with it. I it was a big mix of you saw like a lot of mixed people there from a standpoint of like old to young and just like a lot of generational type stuff, it seemed like.
SPEAKER_03Um so on our matchup, what Kyle and I did do, I I classically do this on any team that I actually appreciate or root for. So I bet against myself this week. Oh Kyle and I had a side bet. So what was the bet? Whoever won this game pays the loser $100.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I still was trying to remember the which way that would be.
SPEAKER_03I wanted it to be, I think it was $500 or $300.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you voted $500, and I'm like, I'm getting ready to go to Disney World. Uh I do not have that money to do that.
SPEAKER_03I thought, but I my thought in my head was like, um, you know, this is big for s for for picking next year, right? Like this win probably means you'll be having the three seed most likely, like you know, instead of the five the five seed. Or the the three the third pick instead of the fifth pick. Yeah. So it means a lot. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you know, that's this is gonna be helpful. Well, there you go. There's your your crisp $100 bill. This is great. I'll be honest with you. I feel like that's the right.
SPEAKER_02Miles is batting on football again, he's back. Wagering on the losers bracket. Okay, this is good. That means the earth is healing. The earth is healing, yeah. Um no power rankings this week.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um let's get into the the picks for for this week. We're down to the final four. We've got Maxwell.
SPEAKER_02Are we picking all the games?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. Just the ones that like actually matter. Okay. So just the yeah. Um Maxwell versus Abbott at the top of the bracket. The one seed versus the four seed. Let me pull it up here. Abbott is hurt. It's not healthy. Um Diggs obviously went down earlier this year. David Montgomery now goes down. Kareem Hunt, now that Pacheco is back, is no longer getting the lion's share of the carries there. Um so it looks like he's got to start DeAndre Swift. Um he's starting, looks like right now, Drake London, T. Higgins, George Kittle, Brian Thomas, Michael Pittman, and Josh Allen is obviously his quarterback.
SPEAKER_01Pittman was a did not practice.
SPEAKER_03I feel like he does that a lot, though.
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SPEAKER_03So who knows? And then young Oku goes out for him, too. So he is beat up. Um the mud dogs look to be really, really healthy, honestly. Um, his starting lineups look like it's gonna be Jordan Love, Kyron Williams, Jefferson, Myers, Schultz at tight end, then Mike Evans.
SPEAKER_04So the thing about Myers, though, today the Raiders shut down Max Crosby and they shut down someone else. Like, I think the right the Raiders are basically like ready to tank.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but Crosby's like an all-pro type player. Like Jacoby Myers is a number one above average wide receiver.
SPEAKER_04He's yeah, but if they don't care about winning anymore and he's dealing with something, they might shut him down for the game at least.
SPEAKER_03Okay, all right. I could see that. But he could always slot in Thielen or Bateman had a really good week last week. For sure. Or Michael. So who are you picking? Um, I'm gonna go with Maxwell. 10-4. He had the one seed. Braden is hurt. Um, he's also gonna get a one-point home field advantage in this one. So Maxwell.
SPEAKER_04I am firmly in the camp of a first-time winner this year. Like, very much so. You're rooting for that?
SPEAKER_03Yes. Of course you are. Because it it I don't want anyone eroding my elite status. Correct. So either Maxwell can be at your status, or beamer can surpass everyone and be the first three-time channel.
SPEAKER_04Let's be clear, no one wants Beamer to be the first time, three-time champion.
SPEAKER_03I am actually fine with him being the first one to do it. It is absolutely that'd be that'd be back to back, first to worst. Yeah, where he's just pinballed the words.
SPEAKER_04Give me Bray Nabbitt to beat Maxwell and go to the championship.
SPEAKER_01Uh, I've got Maxwell. I just think Braden's just too injured at the wrong time. Yeah, Josh Allen's just playing out of his mind, but uh, it's just hard.
SPEAKER_02This is the year. 0.6 loses David Montgomery, and they are taking the Detroit Lions all grit, next man up mentality. They cannot be beat.
SPEAKER_00Well, the heck, here's the deal. I'm the best there is, plain and simple. I mean, I wake up in the morning, I diss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff. Uh, you know, I'm just a big hairy American winning machine. If you ain't first, you're last.
SPEAKER_03The quarter has Braden this week. Quarter has picked Braden. Um, next matchup in the lower bracket, we've got Beamer and Jake Adams. So we've got the what? The sixth seed and the uh fifth seed?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Sure. I don't know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, well, no, Jake was second, wasn't he?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Jake's number two.
SPEAKER_03Oh, number two. Yeah. Five versus two. Um I'm gonna tell you guys right now, Beamer looks so good right now. He is so hot. Devontae Adams coming off that game looks nice. Khalil Shakir with what um with what Josh Allen is doing, and then Amari Cooper coming over from the Browns has done absolutely nothing for them. Shakir is like the guy. Uh he gets Kincaid back healthy. Jamison Williams has been really pretty solid for him this year. And now Jameer Gibbs to see the Jameer Gibbs show. We've been waiting for him to just be able to get the majority of the touches, if not all of the touches. I mean, he could put up 50 this week. Yeah. It's very scary. Who are you picking? I'm gonna pick Beamer.
SPEAKER_04Okay. So I agree with the Jameer Gibbs analysis. I don't love that he's got two Buffalo Bills players when Shakir and Kincaid. And then you've got the two Detroit players, which clearly is not a big as big of a deal.
SPEAKER_03Um He's got two players on two of the best offenses in the league. Why would you care?
SPEAKER_04I I care. I I can care however I want. Mahomes obviously hobbled. He practiced today. I'm sure he'll play. I just Rico Dowdle.
SPEAKER_03Last three weeks.
SPEAKER_04I know. Double. I just can't do it. I mean, Connor's gonna have a huge game against Carolina. I think Hubbard will play well. Saquon, he's got three really strong running backs. Um back game for Purdy, hopefully. I I gotta go with Jake. Uh, this is more out of spite and uh vindication for Camarty's kids. I'm picking Jake from State Farm.
SPEAKER_03I do think Jake has a good team. This is no, nothing against Jake. This is just Beamer's got lightning in a bottle right now.
SPEAKER_01I think Jake has a good team, but Debo, there's something going on there. It's I I don't think his season's gonna turn around this year. I don't either.
SPEAKER_03Debo has one rushing or one receiving touchdown all season, and then one rushing touchdown. He has two touchdowns on the year without Ayuk even being there most of the year.
SPEAKER_01That just feels like a mess. And then Jake's also maybe at risk of losing his tight end. And he's so he's he's a he's a little injured there, but um I I'm beamer all the way, man. Beamer. I think he's I think he's gonna do it. Gimme Corbin.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_03You know, Jake, I got you. If Corbin pulls this off and makes it the championship, maybe this smells good luck for you cleaning ditches, Kyle. You know, like it's worse than first.
SPEAKER_01I think that's part of the reason why I'm like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Look kindly on you know. On community service.
SPEAKER_01Um now for the record, I had Jake as a sleeper. So I believed in this team from the beginning, but I just think Corbin's getting hot at the right time. The quarter also has Corbin. Very important.
SPEAKER_04All right, so in the loser's bracket, uh, right to bear arms versus whiskey tango foxtrot. This is gonna be a consensus quake.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I got Kendall. He's getting healthy at the right time. He's getting healthy when it matters least. I I agree. Pacheco. Kindle's team works good. Like, this team looks good. It really doesn't. AJ Brown, Puka Dekua. Um, I mean, we haven't talked much about it. I mean, Chase Brown's been playing great. Johnu Smith has been fantastic. I mean, he's been tight end one the last like five weeks.
SPEAKER_04I mean, this is the first time ever Kendall's looking at his mention, like, oh, I've got guys I can play.
SPEAKER_03Anybody. Anybody. So he's Chase Brown has been awesome the last like five six. He's been great. I mean, he's been great the last like eight weeks. Yeah. This is a really good team. Give me Kendall. Kindle.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be Kendall, and it's not gonna even be close. I'm going to get destroyed. Dude, you give me Kindle.
SPEAKER_03I will say the quarter does have Kyle. Your team doesn't look terrible. I mean, Metcalf. They're all injured, though.
SPEAKER_01Devontae Smith, Jake Ferguson, Charbonnet. Charbonnet, and Metcalf are both injured. Walker probably comes back anyways. It's I don't even know if Camaro's gonna play. It's just gonna be a mess.
SPEAKER_03You know what's interesting? We haven't had very many like running, just there's usually like a lot of running backs that get injured. We haven't had huge like running back injuries this year. You know what I mean? Yeah. Speaking of the guy who held like seven handcuffs all season, none of them ever worked out. Yeah. That's that's true.
SPEAKER_02So I think uh Christian McCaffrey might disagree on that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you have, it's just been kind of silent. It's just like Brooks, right? Retore his ACL, but it didn't really matter because he was already kind of out.
SPEAKER_03Um last uh matchup, we've got the mentor versus the mentee. This is uh a rematch of last year's championship game. IUI Doc versus Phil. Can Phil get his revenge in the toilet bowl. I'm looking. I'm looking. Um I think he can. I think he can. I'm gonna go with Phil. Ladd McConkie. Laporta hasn't been good, but he's as good as tight end you can have. Tyree Kill, Malik Neighbors. If those guys play, Phil's gonna win.
SPEAKER_04You know, I think this is gonna be really competitive. I'm gonna go with Cameron. We don't know what he's doing yet at tight end. He's got some other options on his bench. Kendra Miller could be big for him this week.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04That was a sneaky pickup that he got. Uh Tyreek Hill's been awful. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What happened to the show?
SPEAKER_04Jerry Judy's getting a quarterback change.
SPEAKER_03What has happened to Tyreek Hill this season? Is he washed now? What is going on there in Miami? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01That it just seems like it's all I don't know if he's gonna be asking. He is 30. Like he's 30. But maybe he's sitting there like, there's no way we're gonna make the playoffs. So, like, why put my body through a bunch of crap? True. You got him. Uh man. I want to pick Cameron, but I think Phil's getting hot, and I think even though Tyreek, I still think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm gonna go Phil. Great redemption story this year. Finally filled the holes. Give me Phil. The quarter also has Phil.
SPEAKER_04So I'm the only one that picked Cameron, I'm the only one that picked Jake. Got it.
SPEAKER_01What's um what's our total? Because we missed Who cares?
SPEAKER_03Maxwell didn't send us our total this week. Well, he sent it previously, but yeah. He sent it December 10th. Last update I've got. Um Myself and Tim were tied for the lead at 49 correct picks on the season. The quarter was a third at 47. Quincy is fourth at 45, and Kyle is last place with 44. Correct picks.
SPEAKER_01So this is a good one. I am by one. Come on, Corbin. Did we ever figure out the bet?
SPEAKER_03There is no bet. We're all going to dinner in Loser's Pan.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, it seems like it's a very high probability that it's me. So you three could agree and just screw me here real fast.
SPEAKER_03Quincy's got nothing left. He's just playing with the chords over here.
SPEAKER_05Oh man.
SPEAKER_03How does it feel? I mean, I lost eight for the Christian. I lost eight in a row to finish the season. That is Is that really what happened? Wow. I didn't notice that. Yep.
unknownEight.
SPEAKER_03So seven in a row in the regular season, and then my my loser's bracket, so eight in a row. So what did you ask for?
SPEAKER_04Did you even care about how close your vic your loss was? Was one point. Yeah, I did. Did it bother you at all? Yeah, it bothered me. Okay. I just it does make me feel better that like you still bother me. Yeah, I was leveling.
SPEAKER_03I was in bed listening to one of my conspiracy podcasts, and I refreshed at like midnight, and I was like, well, I lost to Kyle. But I what there are three reasons.
SPEAKER_02Courtney, wake up. I lost to Kyle.
SPEAKER_03That's the reason I made this bet earlier in the week with Kyle is because I was like, I need something to live for if I'm gonna lose in the losers bracket.
SPEAKER_01So did you uh so you know, because of the season and everything, have you have you asked anything from Courtney for Christmas to help make you feel better?
SPEAKER_03No, I we're I'm good. We're good.
SPEAKER_02I think you should take that Hundo that's sitting on the table right now and let it ride in this week. What's the what is the bet that you want to make this week?
SPEAKER_03We're no, we're this is building for next year. This is building for next year. So Bitcoin.
SPEAKER_04I just want to point out that um Miles used all of his good juju in 2024 to help Trump win. I really do.
SPEAKER_03I put all my eggs in that basket. And he sacrificed his C C P L season.
SPEAKER_02I would do it again. He he saved the country.
SPEAKER_03Maybe next year I'll have less other things to be concerned about, so I'll focus on fantasy again. That's it. How do you feel? I mean, you had a great, great year. Seems like all for naught, to be honest. It's like what it's like, what the fuck are we doing here?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I I the situation losing to Corbin in that fashion, that doesn't bother me.
SPEAKER_03Did you look back? Did you look back at the other at the regular season and like, hey, if I would have got this win here or lost there, I would have had this seed instead of this seed and won this week.
SPEAKER_04I haven't really done a much of the the over analysis. I mean, I had two close losses earlier in the year that I looked back on earlier, but not like late in the season or around playoff seating. I was happy with the whole scenario that I had going into the round one playoffs. I if I would have lost in round two, that would have maybe felt better than losing in round one. Yeah. To Corbin.
SPEAKER_03This is back-to-back years I've lost in round one, I think. Yeah. It's the that's what I this is what I was saying. And everyone's like, no, you want to be in the game. You can't take yourself out of contention.
SPEAKER_01No, you can never do that. You lose this argument every time.
SPEAKER_02You want to be in the big games.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Yeah. But hindsight is I have been knocked out in like the first round, it seems like so many years. Do better.
unknownSure, you can't.
SPEAKER_03I did do better this year.
SPEAKER_01I'm picking fifth. And you got half your dues for next season.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's all we got. Tim, the I mean, what's your analysis of this season?
SPEAKER_02You know, I think it's it's just been kind of a weird season, lots of ups and downs. I think we're getting set up for hopefully an exciting championship game. Um, from my perspective, I think the winner of the Maxwell Corbin matchup, that's gonna be your CCPL champion. I mean, what do you guys think? Guys, I just can't believe we do this.
SPEAKER_04Like every week we sit here and talk about this. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing?
SPEAKER_03Who are we? This is what I was getting to earlier this year.
SPEAKER_04It does like it, you know, so like it like like we get like I leave my house, I get in the car, I go pick you up, we drive 30 minutes, we do an hour-long podcast.
SPEAKER_02You know, and every time he gets to your house, he just hopes that you don't come out. So I thought that tonight. It's like a good look the best part of my day. The moment when I don't know if Kyle's gonna come out the door or not.
SPEAKER_01He doesn't have to talk to me.
SPEAKER_04I'll be honest to him, I was kinda pumped you had food poisoning.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think Quincy's exact response when we were uh asking who all was available tonight is we said, are we gonna do it? And he goes, Fine, fine, fine.
SPEAKER_03You know, you would have loved to be here had you won. You would have been on the guys, I'm just tired. He would have been the first Quincy text. We started out like mid season, we were doing really good where like you and I were like golfing on Sundays, not watching a game. Yeah, then it got cold and dark. And then you you started winning, and you were like, Okay, I'm gonna get into it.
SPEAKER_04That is not true because I've got I've got receipts where I tried to get you to play golf like two weeks in a row, and you're like, uh, I can't, or I'm non committed. And so I was forced to be at my house and watch a little football.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I I am gonna do some self-reflecting this year. I I need to have a better team. This team was just not good. You get so cute.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Like you're like, oh, I'm going with that guy because he's a little bit of a flyer. He's younger. Yeah. Like, yeah, I do. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I get way too cute. But that's what's fun, right? It kind of is. But winning is fun.
SPEAKER_04Winning is more fun. You know what's more fun than winning? Winning in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_02Well, this is kind of fun.
SPEAKER_04Kyle, when's the last time you were in the playoffs?
SPEAKER_01I think it was last year, wasn't it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So have you started to workshop new games new team names for next year?
SPEAKER_01I've already got it.
SPEAKER_02Have you announced it?
SPEAKER_01No. Well, I can't. Just whiskey with an H.
SPEAKER_02Whiskey with an H. No, no, no. Do you want to announce it right now?
SPEAKER_01Uh I don't know. I mean, it kind of kind of loses the pomp and circumstance for it, right? And I'm and I'm not I'm not out of contention for Toilet Bowl Championship. Okay. Yeah, if you were eliminated, yeah. I think that's true.
SPEAKER_03If you win the toilet bowl, then you gotta keep your nickname.
SPEAKER_01As much as everyone has written off my commitionership, I don't think I want it. I have still not I still have not lost it yet. And the team, we're not done with the number of things.
SPEAKER_03You're Justin Trudeau at this point, arriving upon the wall.
SPEAKER_01They're covering the phone.
SPEAKER_04You know, I think I really think I want Kendall to have the number one pick. Can you imagine the consternation and stress that he'll have to get out of here? Oh god. He'll rip the sleeves off of his sleeveless shirt trying to figure that pick out. Pete doesn't keep CMC, it'll be like, oh man, what do I do?
SPEAKER_03We we all would want to see that. Like I'd pay to watch that. I could see if Kendall wins it, I could see him just picking 14th and just be like, whoever falls from here. That's who I'm grabbing.
SPEAKER_01He's gonna trade to move down in the draft just so that he doesn't uh have to be the first pick.
SPEAKER_04Not always the worst strategy.
SPEAKER_01It it is interesting. Like you start out just even with the podcast, like you start out so excited and then you grind all through it, and then now you get towards the end, it's like, man, I can't believe we've But for real, is it just me or the NFL is getting worse, right? Well, I think part of it too, like I was talking with uh I don't know who I was talking with about this, but basically now you have all it's not now you have it ev you have it almost on every night, so it's almost wor like I think by having it Monday, Thursday, Fridays. Saturdays, Saturdays, Sundays, like it's okay during playoffs and that makes it, but like I think just by having three days and then several, and then they were doing several of these uh multiple Monday night games, yeah. Like I think that's just it just is wearing you down a little bit.
SPEAKER_03And it it has kind of taken away from the product, it feels like it's almost like a fantasy basketball situation now where it's like you got guys playing like every fucking night of the week, and you're like, who's who's in, who's not, like who's kissed, who's hurt, who's whatever. And then the cults are just fucking terrible. They've been just so mediocre fucking. That Broncos game was embarrassing. Like, that's the worst thing you can do to a franchise. It's not it's not having a couple seasons of two wins. Like, a franchise can get over that. It is the uh year after year of just so aggressively average. I didn't even watch. I'm I used to be like probably one of the biggest Colts fans there was. You were never a bigger fan than Seth DeFlow. And like I don't even care anymore. You guys realize we need to kill him for the Colts because we have to sacrifice him before the Colts are gonna be relevant. We do I think that's it for the pod, right? We do.
SPEAKER_04We don't.
SPEAKER_03Did you see him opening the present last week? Yeah, he's like for the fantasy or uh fan of the year or whatever, and he opens it and it's got a cap bottle of Captain Morgan in there, and he's like, Oh, a bottle of Captain Morgan alcohol. It's on it's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_04Well, hope everyone has a Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy winter solstice, Diwali, Kwanzaa.
SPEAKER_03Probably won't record next Wednesday. We'll try to get a pot. I mean, we usually record the the two people in the championship. We'll do it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, we'll try to try. What am I saying? What am I doing?
SPEAKER_02Hang on, family. I gotta go record a podcast.
SPEAKER_04Bye, everybody.
SPEAKER_05You know that chick.