New Swingers Podcast

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the New Swingers podcast. I'm John.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
And I'm June.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
And today we are talking about how to connect with other swingers on social media plus dues and don'ts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Social media can be kind of a wild west, and a lot of people want to just, they want to meet other people online, but a lot of times they're afraid of, what if I come off as weird or I'm nervous. I don't want to turn people away. There. There's all these sometimes insecurities

(00:34):
About what's the best way to connect with them. And today's episode is actually perfect because we're going to talk about a lot of things to do not do when you're putting your profile up, as well as do's and don'ts when you're reaching out to people. And one of the best ways though, to learn how to do this, we have a free PDF in the show notes is called Swing Easy. Meet People Online in the next 24 hours or less guaranteed people in your area or your surrounding area who are also in the lifestyle and looking for people like you. So go on the show notes, get that swing easy pdf, select the, I think the third or fourth link down. And if for some reason you can't click it, you can click the link to new swingers podcast.com. And they're on the website. We have all those same resources, and so if you're on Apple Podcast everything is hyperlinked and clickable. But yeah, go grab the Swing Easy pdf. It'll show you multiple places you can connect with other people in the lifestyle or who are exploring the lifestyle or learning about it. Here again, in the next 24 hours or less we met people gosh, in just the first few hours we started connecting with people and we've actually met some of those people at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So go grab that and if you haven't done so yet, leave us a rating review. If you've received any value out of this podcast take three seconds, scroll down in your app and give us a rating. We would really appreciate that, and it helps us reach more people just like you.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So we have an email today. This is how we sort of got this idea. Well,

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Actually no, <laugh>. Two

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Ways. We got this idea. One, we got this email. Yes. And two <laugh>. We have people who aren't very classy on social media reach out to us and we're like, what the fuck was this person thinking? Oh my God, why would we even respond? So yeah, we're trying to be nice here. But yeah, here's the email of that one of you sent in and is just asking about this online thing, connecting online with people.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay. Hi, we love your podcast so much. Thank you for all the information you share. Oh, thank you. We are wondering if you could take a look at our S D C profile and tell us if we should change anything. We are in a similar situation as the woman is not interested in sexual interactions with other men and only wants to explore women. We are looking for other couples with similar interests, but it has been a slow for us. We have been to local meet and greets and swing clubs several times, but still have yet to find other couples that are into our play preferences. We also are trying to meet single women but that has also been hard for us to connect with. One, we are thinking maybe our profile is turning people away and would love your advice. We know you talked about this in one of your Q and a podcasts, but you're mainly interested in seeking your advice about our individual profile. Okay. Look forward to hearing back from you. Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah. So one thing with that I'm curious about. They said they've been all kinds of events, clubs, all this stuff, and they're having a hard time finding people who have the same swinger sex preferences as they do. They didn't say what their preferences are. We could probably go on their site, their profile and see, but I'm wondering, it just makes me wonder, are there preferences really super unique or something? Because I mean,

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, they said in there that it's very similar to what ours are. Or at the beginning, I didn't want to play with guys, I just wanted to play with girls. So it's saying, okay. So in there they said,

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Okay,

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay. Oh yeah. So that they're very just want to play with girls,

Speaker 1 (04:42):
With ladies. Okay. Yeah. That's called in the lifestyle. It's called the Unicorn, A single lady you can play with. And they're called unicorns for a reason. They do exist, but they can be difficult to locate until you get to know people. So I mean, we found it. It's almost like a business or anything in life, it seems like in the lifestyle. You just have to get around a lot, get around people consistently a lot, and then you start meeting people and stuff starts working out. It's not an overnight thing can be, we meet people with the club all the time where it's like, yeah, wait, we didn't know we were going to play like that tonight. Yeah. And it's awesome, but that doesn't happen every time.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah. And I mean for us, one thing on SDC that you can do is you can make it to where when you're doing a search, you can make it to where it's only females.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
You can filter it like females only.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I know we used to do that a lot, or I did too. We both did both where we were because we were both, that's what that was what our interest was and mainly my preference. So there's a way to that you can just look for on just ladies.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah. In fact one of the unicorns we enjoy playing with Special K she, she's on there, and I believe that's how we initially connected with her.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Or she may have reached out to us.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think she did. I reached out to us. I sent us an email, like a message in S stc.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah. Yeah. And so if you don't know what STC is, go download that swingy pdf, that free pdf. They're in the show notes. It has links in there for that in other places too if you don't know what we're talking about. But yeah, if that's the case, if they're looking for just women that's out there.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, it definitely

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Is. But just women that can be harder to find. That's the whole joke with the unicorn thing. But even I think you come across a couple, let's say the guy doesn't want me playing with her, or I didn't want you playing with him, but you ladies were interested in playing. Well, there have been times, me and the guys that me and the other guys sat back and watched YouTube play with each other and we're like, fist bumping, dude, this is awesome. We're not playing, but we're winning. So you can do that too.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And that's happened. So that's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And who knows, once you get to know those people, maybe they'll be more open to things or maybe you'll be more open to things because you got to know them or something.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah. Well, for me, that changed with Barbie and Ken, because I first started Joe just, oh, I said Ken. Oh gosh, no, he's not akin. He's GI Joe. Gosh. GI Joe

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Was way more masculine than, sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Gi I, Joe, if you're listening, GI Joe, not Ken. Gosh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
But yeah, you were saying

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Just like, well, that was the same for us when me and Barbie would play several. There was two or three times that her and I played, and we didn't do any kind of swapping or anything really. And that was fine. And then as I gotten to know GI Joe and Barbie both that's when I've got to get a little bit more comfortable with them. And then I was more comfortable enough where I'm like, I've gotten to know these people a lot, that I would love them to be my first full swap, which they were,

Speaker 1 (08:21):
And playing and doing other things. But getting to know the people, it's, it's way different. If you've gotten to know people, you're just more comfortable naturally.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's like meeting a stranger or meeting up with your friend you've known for six months or a year, and you've gotten to know you're just more comfortable and sometimes open to things, and so it develops.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
You want to read the next email too?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah. Let's see. Here we

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Go. And we will get to how to connect with others online on social media right after this email.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay. Hello. My boyfriend and I have been together for a year. Our sex life is great. We've always been open in each other about our past. He and his ex-wife were involved in the lifestyle and went to a club in our area. I haven't asked much about it, but lately I find myself researching, listening to podcasts, and very interested. He knows that I'm very curious and he has asked my thoughts on it with no pressure at all. My problem is that he has experienced with this, and I am not, I'm experimented. I experimented some with girls and did some crazy things back in high school, but hell, that was 25 years ago. I have always been attracted to women, but never acted on it. As an adult, I know that he would never make me feel uncomfortable, and I always feel safe with him. I just have these thoughts in my head. Well, I feel stupid. What if I don't know what to do? What if we come across people that used to play with him and his ex-wife? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So there was a couple questions in there.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Here's something that I think a lot of people probably especially if they're new to the lifestyle she said Here I just had these thoughts in my head. This is about playing, I assume, or experimenting, playing around will I feel stupid? What if I don't know what to do? What if we come across people he used to play with? So let me address that, or I'm going to ask you actually this whole, the thought, the thoughts in your head, oh, I feel stupid. What if I dunno what to do? What if, <laugh>, have you ever dealt with those, Jen?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh, not at all. Totally being sarcastic right now. Yes. Because now she's saying that she knew from a young age that she was in attracted to women. And for me, I did not.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But when it comes to these thoughts about exploring the lifestyle, and she's like, well, I feel stupid. Well, if I dunno what to do, is that normal, would you

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Say? Yes, I It's definitely normal to have those thoughts. I agree. Yeah. I think mean really for me, because I am so much of an overthinker with everything I've done in a lifestyle, I overthink every fucking thing. It's stupid, and I get pissed at myself sometimes. I just would say, stop thinking about it and just try something. Make a list of things that you want to try with a girl and just start with something small. My first thing was just a kiss. I just wanted to do a peck. It wouldn't even really, we didn't even make out. It was just, well,

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You did the peck, we did the, and then you on made out because it was so good.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes. But it started with peck, but it started with the peck, and then she kissed my boobs, and that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And then I made out with her too. Yes. And that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes. So

Speaker 1 (12:06):
That's the first time we ever made out with the same person. Yeah, you made out with her and played with her. Then I made out with her. It's like, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
<laugh>. Like, how

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Fucking cool is

Speaker 2 (12:15):
This?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Then we went home and fucked. Really good. Yeah. Or no, we may have fucked at the club. I don't remember. Either

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Way. We thought it was good. Remember? Yeah. That was earlier on. So I don't remember. That was six months ago, seven months ago now. So I would just encourage you, if you're an overthinker like I am, which it sounds like you might be, I would just make a list of things that you're wanting that you're willing to try with a girl and wanting to try with a girl, and then just start with the smallest thing that you want to try and see how it

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Goes. And here's the thing, if you like something, you can do more of it. And there's people in the lifestyle that probably like that too. And if you don't like something, you just don't do that thing again.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yep. <laugh>

Speaker 1 (13:01):
There. There's no, no big bad wolf. You didn't like it. Okay. Well, you took away positive by learning about what you didn't like. Well, yeah,

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Because now it's like,

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, so you didn't lose.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
What if we come across, she says, what if we come across people that used to play with him and his ex-wife? My thought on that is, I mean, you don't know him now, that's just me as a guy. I'm speaking if thinking we have friends and lifestyle who are together, and then let's say they broke up, but then we ran across one of them with a new boyfriend or girlfriend or whoever. That wouldn't change anything for me at least towards either of them. Yeah. We'd remember who they used to be with, who was probably friends with us. But for me, it wouldn't change how I feel toward the new person because why would I have to judge them or why would I make it weird? It, it's like hell, maybe that person's more fun than the one that got rid of who knows? Or they got rid of them. Yeah. So I understand the concern, but I don't think it's really that big a deal.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, I agree with that. And then I would even add to maybe they're thinking maybe it was an awkward situation. Maybe if it was an awkward situation with the ex and him, then that would be a little awkward though.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, what do you mean if it was an awkward situation?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, okay, so for example, that one guy who gave me the evil eye at the, because I didn't want to, wasn't ready to play with him the whole first play party fucking time. He was giving me the evil eye the entire time. Well, then we saw him at the club after the fact, and that was awkward, and I was trying to not make eye contact and hoping he didn't. Oh,

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I looked right at him.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, I did not right

Speaker 1 (15:09):
At as. Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I did not. So I'm wondering, I don't know if that might be what her fear is. I don't really know if it's something like that. That would be a little awkward if it was a weird, awkward situation. But who knows? I don't

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Know. But this lady is like, I don't know anyone in the lifestyle, but he knows he has some friends. So the weirdness that she's thinking she'll feel is with his existing lifestyle friends. So I don't know mean You have a good point,

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I don't know. I mean, I just think maybe you're thinking too much into it, and because it may not be that big of a deal,

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I just think you might make some new friends and maybe they're friends with the ex and they're also friends with you, and oh, maybe they'll like you more. Who knows <laugh>

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And fuck it. What if the girl has been the lifestyle longer than you have? And she can be like, Hey, do you want to try it? Kiss with me. Hey, do you want to try this with me? She could be your person that you never know. If you're closed off to the idea, then you never know what kind of great friend you might make or somebody that you can play. She can guide you into the lifestyle with playing, trying different things.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
So I would just say I wouldn't be closed off to that completely.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And people in the lifestyle, they tend to be in our only, our personal experience, they tend to be pretty generous in understanding most of them. Every now and then, like you said, you run across the douche bag. But especially with other couples though, other couples tend to be understanding. And when you tell 'em like, well, a lot of people will ask, what are you into? Or what, are you here to try something new? Or what kind of stuff do you all like to do? And if you just say I'm new I really want to kiss a lady. It's been a long time. So that's kind of what I'm looking to do to meet the right person. And if that lady's into that, and there's a connection a lot of times, just offer the lady who did for you. She's like, well, she's happy. I'm happy to be your first. And we had gotten to know them a little bit. And so she's like, if it's not comfortable, if it's odd, no worries at all. Seriously, there's no pressure. But I'm just letting you know I'm willing to do that for you. Yeah. And kind of guide you along and step in. And that was awesome. It really, she's a great lady. He's a great guy.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It really was.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
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Speaker 2 (18:47):
<laugh>.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
June likes the meat. I

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Do like the meat Well and the taco <laugh> preferably bald.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah. You don't like hair in your mouth?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
So, oh, it's funny because June just had this big, long, giant sausage on a stick for lunch, and I was teasing her and taking pictures of her. I'm like, Hey, how far C, can you get that down your throat working on your skills? And I got three or four of these tabid pictures with her eyes half open and gagging, and oh, it was so fucking funny.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
And I'm like, you're not posting those anywhere?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
And I'm like, bitch, I'll do what I want. No, I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
<laugh>.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So online connecting with other swingers on social media, some of the things you want to think about faces or no faces in your pictures, because once your face is out there, and some of these social media groups or on these swing your websites to connect with others you can't really take something offline once it's up there. You can take it down, but it can get screenshotted. It can be saw by someone who might not tell you that they saw it, who knows you. But then they're telling everyone else that, of course they'll probably say, oh, I heard from this little bird. Some person they won't ever admit they were on the site too, but they want to blow you up. So faces are no faces. What do you think, June? Do you put your face out there or do you not?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, for us, we don't. And here's why. Because we don't, none of our family knows that we're in the lifestyle. And because I grew up, especially me, John too, but me especially, all of my family is very, very religious, very, very against the lifestyle, all of that. If they knew I was bisexual, holy shit, they would, I don't know, bullshit. They'd probably try to send me somewhere.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, I saw some family members almost drop dead when they saw, you know, and I having a glass of wine together for God's sake.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's extreme.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Very. So that is why, for us personally, that does not work for us to have our face there. So that's a huge reason for us that we don't,

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You have to decide you're going to be discreet about it or not. If you're on social media or anywhere, lifestyle pages that were on, you'll see our bodies, but you'll never see our faces.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
No. I think at one point we did, and then we were like, Aw,

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Somebody fucking recognized me. And I'm like, shit. But here, here's the thing. It was a friend of mine who's a really cool dude, I hadn't seen him in a few years, and his wife are also in the lifestyle, and he was basically, Hey, man, I didn't know we ran so much of the same circles. So it was like, oh, thank God it's this case.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
No kidding.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
But who else maybe has he told that? I don't know. Not that he has. I He probably hasn't. I mean, he's very respectful, dude. I don't think he would, but even though he was the safest person to get recognized by, it still freaked me the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh, me too.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh man. My whole body heated up like, oh my God, I, oh, yeah. Yeah. So it was like, ah, I really didn't want that. But the other thing too is it's your career with people know, I mean, I think it's totally fucked up that your sex life, that's only your business could affect your career, but it can. Yeah. I mean, if you're a church preschool teacher, <laugh>

Speaker 2 (22:38):
June, I was, yes,

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You were <laugh>,

(22:41):
But then you quit, get your Nils Pierce and became a swinger. Yeah. Then that would be a conflict of interest. That would probably get you fired, esp. And that's probably written into the hiring contract too. It's probably under some moral code or something. But even if it's not religious if you work for a company that can sometimes affect your livelihood, your paycheck. So what do you have to lose? How much you're willing to risk. I mean, hell, even in the military, with the divorce rate, how high it is and all the fucking cheating that goes on, you can get kicked out of the military for adultery.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It doesn't matter how long you've been in, that will get your ass kicked out. It can. I know people that's happened to, wow,

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
And it would be an other under, other than honorable. So it's not dishonorable, but if you get out of the military with anything that's not just a straight, honorable discharge. Everyone's asking questions, what'd you do? And it's like, oh, maybe you and your wife were swingers, and then she decided to get mad and maybe accused you of adultery and well, yeah, you did, but you're doing it together. But now she painted you as a bad guy. It could go either way.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, it really could.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It could go either way. But we're just saying, faces are no faces. You have to think about these things. Tattoos, those are distinguishing, identifying marks. And if somebody knows you have really neat, unique tattoos somewhere, and they see it, even though they don't see your face let, might go, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I have now, as of last Saturday, I have 12, so I can't hide all my tattoos. So yes, most of the time, at least a few of my tattoos do show, especially depending on what I'm wearing.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And so that's just kind of

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Like, I have arm tattoos, so I'm not always wearing long sleeves.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Arms, shoulders, ankle, foot.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, I have all that other places. Thigh, <laugh> thigh.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I tramp stamp <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Tramp stamp. Yeah. You got a butterfly next to your pussy?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, I do. And one on my tramp stamp.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And yeah, your tra stamp is the butterfly. Is another butterfly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I love butterflies. What can I say? Yeah. But yeah, so I would say that's another thing. Yeah. Do you want your tattoos showing in your picture, do you Not for me. I have too many, so there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to hide all mine. That'd be like, I'd look fake trying to splotch out all the <laugh> tattoos on me.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Or if you're taking pictures at a lifestyle event, or if other people are, they're in a group photo, you might want to talk to them and be like, please don't post that. Or Please blur my face out and make sure they do. That way you don't, don't pop up somewhere. And who knows. Does it work every time when you reach out to people on these social sites you send 'em messages?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
No,

Speaker 1 (25:55):
No. What's our experience there?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
We've been 50 50, I would say. We've written out messages to people on SDC or Facebook Messenger or whatever, and some of them write back and some of them,

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
So it's kind of been 50 50 for, I think about for us personally. And that's just part of the game. You're like, okay, well next.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah. And I mean, if you read their profile and what they're into and what they look for if you match that, you're a lot more likely to get a response. And so keep that in mind too, that who you're reaching out to, reaching out to the right people.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, definitely. It's important.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
And some people, they'll play along. They'll even plan to meet up with you, and sometimes they'll just fucking flake. We had one lady beautiful redhead. Well, at least those were her pictures. I don't know if it was really her or who knows. I mean, it could really be anybody. But she was going to meet up with us and flirt,

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Flirt, flirted with us crazy and everything. And, oh, I can't wait to do this to you and this to you, and I can't wait, blah, blah, blah. All did all the games, all the fun, sexy, all did everything you think. And then we got all the way over there

Speaker 1 (27:26):
To where the restaurant we were going to meet at, and we had gotten ready, we gotten dressed, showered up, clean, shaved, what you do and no show. And then was,

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, it got closer to time to me, and I told John, I said, you know what? Fuck it. We're going to go there anyway. And if she shows up, oh, well, we're going to still enjoy our date together because we come first anyway,

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And we had a great fucking time, and she missed out.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And it was great food too.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
And drinks. Yes, it was. But yeah, then I think we did write her a message after, Hey, missed. We missed you. You didn't show up. We hope everything's okay. I

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Hope your flight got back soon safely. That kind of thing

Speaker 1 (28:13):
That she was, I mean, benefit of the doubt, maybe. Maybe something happened and it's like, wow, I hope they're okay. I always give people a benefit of the doubt. But what happened after that?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, she did write back at 1130 that night, and it was kind of like, I'm sorry, I'm just now getting back. I'm just now getting in from my flight.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, her flight got delayed or something, apparently, which that's understandable. But then she disappeared off of I think it was sdc. Yeah. Oh, for us at least. Oh, so she blocked us. We can't find the message. It disappeared.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
That whole thread went away.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So it's like we're just sitting here going okay, weirdo.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I had given her my personal phone number, so I'm like, oh my

Speaker 1 (28:55):
God. Yeah, you don't. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
So now that was a mistake I made, so I'm like, you're

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Dumb. It was very, in the very beginning, this person was see me very trustworthy. But we know better than to do that now. Yeah, yeah. Don't give out your personal information. Not unless you've met 'em several times. You've gotten to know they become friends. But yeah, some people flake, but we follow up politely, 3, 4, 5 times maybe with, I know, a few days in between or just whatever, just checking in like, Hey, how, how's it going? Because people get busy. They have schedules, they have kids, they have work. I mean, it's crazy how difficult it can be to align people's schedules sometimes,

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Especially if you kids,

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Oh my God, we play, our kids are at school.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
A lot of people with the swinger lifestyle, some people are singles, so like, and they're wanting to hang out with a couple, a married couple, and it's like yeah, we can't just plan to meet you tonight.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah. Are you freeing an hour? Like, oh

Speaker 2 (30:03):
No. Yeah, our kids have a basketball game. Or Our kids are going to be home when they're too young to stay home by themselves, so we have to arrange babysitting. There's all kinds of, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Another thing the social media sites with your profile and stuff. Be clear on what you like and what you're looking for. So I think on our sdc still, it has been that way for a while. We have it that we're only looking for unicorns.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, unicorns are hot wives, I think. Yeah,

Speaker 1 (30:36):
We're unicorn hunters.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah,

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Unicorns are hot wives. We're looking for ladies only because we both exploring with them. And so you might be thinking, well, that cuts out a ton of people that you might meet. Yes, it does. But the ones we're looking for see that and they go, oh, this couple is exactly for me, special K. That's probably why she reached out to us. I would imagine. I haven't asked her, but that's probably why she reached out to us because our profile literally described her. And then she obviously liked what she saw and was interested. And so that's how that connection was made because we're clear. We're looking for ladies only is what we put on there. And so that made us distinct. It stand out, which is another thing you want to do.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
If there's something unique about you.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, yeah, for me, for example, my only fans page that I have, it's all about my pierce nipples. Yeah. Sometimes I'll post an ass picture I did yesterday randomly, but most of the time it's going to be my nipples. That's the, my main focus.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Her only fans is only fans.com/purest. Nips xxx <laugh>. Like the whole theme is pierce nipples. So anybody who likes to look at pierce nipples, well that's the crowd she's going after because she pierced her nipples and she's an exhibitionist, so she likes showing 'em off. Hot pictures and videos down there too. By the way, if you want to see how hot June is, <laugh> go to her only fans. It's the first link in the show notes. Just go click the link. It says, June's only fans,

Speaker 2 (32:28):
You want me disappointed? I promise. Fuck.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Disappointed like that. That's not even a question. But also be clear on what you do and don't do in a lifestyle. What are some things people like don't do that you can think of? Some people have a no kissing rule.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
They don't. Or maybe they don't swap,

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Or maybe they don't like full swap, but

Speaker 2 (32:54):
They'll swap. They'll soft swap and swap. Ugh, can't talk today. Swap and swap. <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Swap and swap.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Soft swap. Or some people, one of the first things we did was, it's called parallel play. I almost said four wheel play. I'm like, what? Okay. Parallel play. And that's just like you're playing with John, and then the couple beside us is just right, laying right next to us. And they're playing with their own couple. Yeah,

Speaker 1 (33:25):
They're playing with each other.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So that's parallel play. That's one thing that I still enjoy. And that usually, well, and that's kind of how it happened for us with the full swap, was we were parallel playing first and soft swapping a little bit, and then it went into the full, but that was, so there are things that some people, maybe they only want to do this well. Oh, we only play with each other. Or our friends who we talked about the other day, they only, they mainly to just watch. So

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, we parallel played with one couple who were friends of ours, and then we learned they really enjoyed watching us with this one lady. And so they're like, aunt said, Hey, I told 'em, I said, Hey, you can get involved if you want. We'd love to. And they're like, they're like, oh, that's awesome. We actually really, really, really got hot watching you guys play with her. So they're like, we just sat there and enjoyed watching. Like hell, she was giving him a blowjob and <laugh> while the lady was riding me, and they were on the couch in front of us, and she was giving him a blowjob, and he actually stopped her and said, Hey, come up here. Sit up here. This is apparently how good it was for them to watch that. He stopped her from a blowjob, which if you're getting your dick suck, you don't really ever want it to end. But even that, he was like, Hey, watch this. And I saw him bring her up and they're sitting there watching and I'm like, Hey, cool. We all well had a good time. But yeah, what do you do? Don't do.

(35:03):
If you're only looking for ladies just say it. Be very clear on what you want or don't want or do or don't do. People don't know. People make assumptions. Some people are fucking idiots. But just be in, if you're not comfortable with something, literally just stop doing it. Or just say, okay, I'm done with that. Now be polite, but firm. And it's usually mean in our experience. It's never been a big deal. And so just me, just being clear on what you're looking for and what you do or don't do put best foot forward when you describe yourselves, I mean, don't make it unbelievable, but admit the things that are good about you or as a couple, or your pictures as well.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah. Don't have them. If the sun's glaring in your face or things like that. Well, even if you don't show your face, you want to have good lighting.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And also it can compliment your features that you are showing.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah. I mean, everyone has a smartphone. I mean, if you don't have a smartphone, you're probably over 80 <laugh>, which people in lifestyle at that age too. But with a smartphone and natural sunlight, just being outside that takes great pictures.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
If you have professional ones, great. That's sexy too.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
We just did a funny a fun, sexy photo shoot today, actually. <laugh> of some dresses I just got as my birthday's coming up. So I got some fun dresses that for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yes. And they're very, and if you go to June's only fans, you'll get to see some of those.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
In all of the glory. Not the censored ones from the Facebook groups and nothing like that. Cause you can't show it. And the only fans, gosh, she shows 'em at all. So yeah, with picture, it's like it's, it's not hard to do. I remember you saying things sometimes. No, this is different based on who you are, personality. But the two of us were always smiling and laughing and pranking and joking, having fun. So if you ever see us in pictures, we're doing funny motions or

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh my gosh, I'll grab his dick at the club and

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Get banned and then get banned on Facebook for 30 days because apparently you're not supposed to upload a picture with, oh my God, getting my dick grabbed, even though I clothes on. Oh

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, to, oh, no, then here's the fucking one that this one fucking does not make any fucking sense to me. And I just said, fuck four times. That's how pissed I am. She

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now plays, she just fucks a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yes, I do. Yeah. So literally it was my fucking body and it was a really hot picture of me. John and I had went on a walk and we went behind some trees and he got a great picture of me and I flashed the camera and I was grabbing my tits, my own fucking tits. And they fucking like,

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, we got band

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Bandas for 30 days again. And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yep. It was cold out wintertime. And so she unzipped her winter coat and had nothing out underneath, and it was a hot fucking picture. And then we saw someone else do it, and they were actually showing more, and nothing ever happened. So who knows? It was an algorithm. I don't know, but

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Or someone got jealous of my awesome tits.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Your awesome big, huge 32 double D boobs with pierced silver dollar nipples. Yeah, I guess I can totally see people being jealous of those because they look fucking great.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Well, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
But what I was saying is sometimes so we laugh and smile a lot. We're always doing, even if you can't see our faces, we'll blur 'em or something. But you can tell we're laughing, having fun posing. Oh, yeah. But other people, they'll just like <laugh> it. It's two in the morning, the TV light is the TV light from the TV is the only light in the room. And they're like, do a selfie with their hair messed up. And they're just looking at it

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And they're not even fucking smiling. Not

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Smiling,

Speaker 2 (39:15):
They're not dressed nice. They look like they're wearing a wife beater shirt or something. And they're not even trying. They're not, it looks like a prison photo.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah. This person is not, literally not even trying to look good or appealing, which I guess if you're into that kind of thing, more power to you. But that's a big thing with us. It's like, Hey, we take care of ourselves. We come clean, presentable, keep ourselves up, stay in shape, stay clean. And so we kind of expect that of other people. And if people don't, we're really just not attracted to 'em. Yeah. So I mean, it's your personal choice.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Bless you.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Thank you. I tried to look away from the microphone on that. I hope I didn't blow your eardrums out. I was thinking about editing that, but now you call it Fuck. Fuck it. I'll just leave it in there. That's so unprofessional. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
All right. Now I hope I don't get all sniffly. All right. So yeah, join social media groups swinger, social media groups in your area or in your state. You can literally just Google them or look them up in the social media platforms like search bar and just start typing swinger lifestyle or whatever. Just start looking 'em up and you can join them.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
So what are some this now about reaching out to people? So dos and don'ts. So when you're reaching out to people, sending messages what's the big don't? June?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I would definitely say, do not fucking send me a dick pick. Oh my God. I don't care what your dick looks like,

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Guys. No,

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I didn't ask.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, nobody's fucking impressed. Oh my God. We don't care if it's a baby carrot or if it's a n and condo. No one gives a shit I I've never met. Maybe there's some women. I can't speak for all women. I'm yet to meet a woman who's impressed by a dick pic. Almost every one of them is always annoyed and that stupid. And it probably kills more opportunities than it makes. Yeah. That's just my guess.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
And you said Annana. Conus, then it reminds me of the Sur Mix a lot song. Am I Anaconda Don't Want? No. Then Unless you got buns, huh?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah. And you got buns.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I do. Even when I was back, be like, we first got married, I was a size two. I'm a four now, but I was a size two back then. And I remember going to beauty school, I used to do cosmetology back in the day. And I remember at Beauty school, I was one of the only white chicks there at school. And all my African American friends were like, get a booty for a white girl

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Or her. Speaking of white chicks, we were watching that movie White Chicks the other day. Yes. With the Wayne's Brothers. And there's one scene in there. It's one of the funniest fucking scenes. It's Terry Cruz, the big old jacked black guy. He's ripped.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
He must work out.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah. Anyway, a lot. Terry Cruz looking at one of the Williams brothers who's dressed up like a blonde white girl. He's in disguise. And so Terry Cruz doesn't know it's a guy, and he smacks his buddy in the chest and goes, look at that. He goes, A white girl with a black girl's ass. He's like, I'm bringing that home to mama. Yeah. And I say that to say, that's you <laugh>.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Why thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
And that's totally complimentary to every black girl we've ever known. Yes. Who has a beautiful ass. Yep. But yeah, you've been told that since you were young and Yep. Yeah. So work your strengths.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Work it <laugh>

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Or

Speaker 2 (43:52):
What? I said work it. Work

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It. Own it. Yeah. Was that

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Pretty woman?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah. Pretty woman. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Pretty woman. Yep. Work it. Own it.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
So yeah, don't send dick pics because you look like a fucking idiot. Okay,

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Here's another fucking one. Okay, you ready? Because we fucking got this today. Today I post this, I have this new beautiful sweater that I got for my birthday, and I posted some really sexy pictures in it. And this dude, well,

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Your tits stick through it and Yes. And it's a two piece sweater. Yes. There's a top piece where if you don't put the bottom piece on, your tits are literally just

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Hanging. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. But then put the top part on, and it's like a sweater part that goes over. Yeah. It's really pretty. And really sexy pictures. The dude, the motherfucker. This

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Isn't the comment, this isn't the comment section.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
This is the comment section.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
We've never talked to this guy

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Before. Never talked to the dude. And the dude's like, oh, how did he say it, John? I'm trying to remember exactly what he

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Said. What are your play dynamics or preferences? Yes. Do you like to do in the lifestyle? Sexually

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Now? Yeah. Not like, oh, that's a hot picture. Can I pm you? No, no. None of that shit. Just what are your play dynamics?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah. Now, some people might not have a problem with that We did, because some people are like, let's just get to the point, whatever us. We just prefer people with a little more class. And I think this guy probably, honestly, cause I don't want to be a dick for no reason. It might be hard to imagine, Jim, that some guys think that's okay and they don't know any better. I don't know why they wouldn't think. Maybe this would be weird to ask in a public forum. Maybe I should get to know him first or something. Or at least

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Add comp compliment first.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah. Or add a compliment

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Something.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Because you have these people and they'll be like, they'll just send you a message and be like, sup. Not even, what's up? Just sup. S u soup.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh yeah, we've gotten that one a lot. Or Hey, or Hi or Hi

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Or We've never talked to you. And it's like, are you full swap?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's like, oh, well, hi, my name's John. What was your name again? Like, would you walk up to somebody in person and say what you're saying in your message and you've never talked to us?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Again, everyone has their preferences. Maybe that works for

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Some people, maybe it does. And if that works for you, great. But if you want to be a part of our lives, that's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
You're getting fucking nowhere with us fast.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
<laugh> like fucking fast. Fuck no. So I liked the person's comment below that person because they were sexy picture June. And I'm like, thanks. And I did not reply. Not a damn thing on that planet.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
The thing is too, a person or a couple's play dynamics that might be something they don't want to share publicly, and it's, he didn't think of that. It's kind of a personal question.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
It really

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Is. Even though it's the lifestyle, everyone's into their own thing. It's understood. It's kind of a personal question. I mean, to me, it's kind of like you've never talked to someone before. They don't know who you are. And you're like, Hey, what's your favorite sex position? And you're like, whoa. Hello? What was your name again? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Hi. Let's

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, it's kind of that

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Escalated quickly.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Calm down. Plus, it just makes you look desperate.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
It really does.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
It's not appealing. No. At least to us

Speaker 2 (47:43):
It's not. No, it's not attractive at all. I don't think personally.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah. I mean, for us, one of the things, an example of what I would wrote if I were him, if I'm trying to learn about this lady, which he was trying to learn, I would comment maybe with something like, Hey, that's a really beautiful picture. I have a quick question. Can I DM you? Yeah. And only when she responds back and says, sure, I would DM that person. And then I would ask the question had somebody do this before, but after eight or nine messages back and forth, they had not yet asked the question.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah. We're like, what is your question?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
And I was chatting and that one, so I had asked a few times, Hey, look what exactly you said you had a question? What's your question? Yeah. And be

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Clear.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah. I mean, yeah, maybe they just didn't think, but then he asked the question. I don't remember what it was, but it was an off que. It was weird.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
It was very weird. I don't think we responded.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
We just kind of left it there. Because I mean, just be a normal person. I know that's a general thing, but

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It's so true, because if you're not going to walk up to me and ask me that in person, maybe don't send that in a message or in a comment just on our page. Because if you really wouldn't do that in person, you wouldn't just walk up to a person. Oh, are you full swap or Yeah. Hi, I'm June. Your name is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I mean, just again, be a normal person, have a little bit of class and not a lot saying you have to have a lot. Just, hi, you have a very beautiful picture. I have a question I'd like to ask you. Can I DM you? Yep. If not, no worries. No hard feelings. I even put stuff like that because there aren't any, and not everyone writes back. Most of the time. We make a lot of headway because in messages, I'll actually, with my question, I'll put, Hey, no pressure. Sorry if it came off weird. But no pressure to respond either way. Everything's good. We almost always get responses with that because we just, we're wanting to meet these people and introduce ourselves, and we want it to be normal. We don't want it to come off as weird.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Well, and we share our Facebook, ours is a shared one, so we can see, both of us can see all the messages. And we keep it that way for our protection and just because we trust each other. But that's how we just do it for

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Us. We got in the lifestyle together to enjoy it together. And so we decided to do the shared profile for our lifestyle profile pages. And yeah, we can both see everything. And yeah, it just works better for us.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And most of the time, I'll let him handle the messages. Now, if it's a girl I'll most, I'll write those if it's a girl. But if it's a guy, I'm like, John, another word dude, message. I'll let you check it

Speaker 1 (51:11):
And I'll handle that. And I think guys act different, probably a little bit better when they know that there's another guy that they're talking to on the other end. This isn't June, this is John.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Then it's a whole different conversation. Oh yeah. It's like, oh, the protector's there, the garden, the guys there. Yep. Well,

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Just a couple a week or so ago, there was somebody in another group that we're a part of and it's like a lifestyle group. I think it's called Kick or something. Oh, you're app. Yeah. And they had said, Hey, I have a question for you. Can my wife write you a message? So they got on there and then it was not the wife. I found out if, after a couple questions, I finally was like, well, hey I don't talk to the guy, the husbands, if your wife has a question for me, I don't mind talking to your wife, but I don't talk to the husbands by that. I don't do that. That's a rule that John and I don't have. And so immediately he was like, oh. Oh, okay. So then the wife chimed in. But I was like, that even for me was a little awkward just because I was like, I thought it was the lady I was talking to and found out it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah. And that's always a possibility because I mean, how you going to know if he's writing stuff as the lady or not, and just not saying anything. So always be aware of that. If you're in some of these social media groups, always ask before you send somebody a dm, a direct message, because a lot of these groups in the rules that you have to agree to get in, it's, I will not friend request. I will not friend request or DM anyone without asking first in their post or something. And if you do that, a lot of these groups the person you're DMing or friend requesting, yet you never even asked. They'll just straight up kick you out of the group. Yeah. You'll be banned. You won't get back in because it's a respect thing. Definitely. Especially because you have beautiful women in these groups, and you have guys just fucking blowing up their dms and their fucking friend request, and it's a bunch of guys that they've never seen or they don't know, and it's just getting blown up. And there's all this, it's like that's annoying to anybody. Yeah. It's like sending people a bunch of spam email.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
In the off chance that you do send someone in DM and you didn't ask, just put in there, Hey, I just wanted to reach out. I know I couldn't find a place to ask to send you a dm, so if this upsets you, I apologize, but I had a question about this. Or I noticed, I don't know, maybe you live in the same area or you're also into this hobby thing that I saw in your picture, or whatever the thing is you're talking about. Yeah. If you're gon, if you're going to do it, we say, don't do it. But if you end up doing it, at least call out the fact that you're doing it and apologize up front. But you didn't really know how else to go about it. Most of the loser people that send us dms, they don't do that. They don't go through the trouble. No. They're the ones who were one word introductions up.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah. Or do you or you swap, then send,

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Are you full

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Swap? And then sends a dick pic and I'm like, oh my God, I don't fucking care that you have

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Whatever the fuck

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Dick or whatever side. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah. That's another thing, guys. Not all women. In fact, I think it was I, well, Eric Everhard porn star that I got some advice from one time, I think he said 5% of women are size queens mean they, they're like, I need eight inches or more to be satisfied. I need a giant one that's like, that's 5% of women who according to him and the stats and being in that industry for 20 some years. And so

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Ouch.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
<laugh>. Like even if you're sending out your nine inch monster picture most women, a, according to what I understand with stats and everything, they're probably not impressed. And June's sitting here rolling her eyes going, I ain't fucking impressed. Nope. Maybe they'll laugh at it or something. Yeah. They're like, oh my God, look at it. It's all weird and bendy, or it's got a curve, or it's like, what the fuck is, what is that? Or you never know what people are saying about you, so just be respectful.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah. That's the bottom line. Just be respectful.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah. Be a normal person.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I don't know how hard that is. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
No,

Speaker 2 (56:27):
But for some reason it is for some

Speaker 1 (56:30):
<laugh>, and they get nowhere, and I think they probably do more work, or they're sending out more of those messages like that with probably a way lower let's say conversion rate. Mm-hmm. Converting into an actual conversation or a meetup or playing with somebody. Whereas if you're just normal, it's like a breath of fresh air. And when you're just respectful, you are just respectful and normal people are very open and you know, can make a lot more progress. So any other thoughts on connecting with people in social media and lifestyle? Any other things we didn't go over? Take carry yourself, take a shower, take normal, good pictures with a phone, maybe in some sunlight. If you don't have lighting, you don't have to be a pro.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah. I can't really think of anything else right now off the top of my head. Okay. Yeah, just be a normal person and don't just start with, oh, what's your dynamic? Just be a normal person.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
So anyway, if you're looking again to meet other people in the lifestyle who are in your area, you want to meet them and connect with them in the next 24 hours or less, guaranteed, you can find these people and start connecting. Just go get that swing easy pdf. It's right there in the show notes. It's I think the third or fourth link down, and it's free. There's literally nothing for sale here. We're not selling you anything. It's free information. It's got links in there to multiple sites where you can do that pretty much no matter where you live. So go download that. If you have questions that you want us to anonymously feature we won't say your name, but we'll read your email possibly. Just send us an email at New swingers podcast@gmail.com. New swingers podcast@gmail.com. And what is June doing? What the fuck I, I'm like, she's giving this look and walking over and I'm trying to read this thing to end the episode. And You're welcome. Thank you. Oh, your tits feel amazing. Oh, they look so good. They look so good through that sweater because they're purist. You can see the nipple, but then you can see these two other little things just through it where you can tell she hasn't pierced. You're

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Welcome. And it's my new, I just put new new piercings in. They're purple for Valentine's and birthday and Mardi gra and all that

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Stuff. Yep. So again, go check out our only fans if you want to see what they look like. And it's the first link in the show notes. Ooh, I just spanked her. Thank you. Because she likes it. I do. All right. Well hope you enjoyed this episode. Hope it was helpful. And keep swinging for the fences. That was so stupid. <laugh>.

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