New Swingers Podcast

30- June's Very First "DP-Style" (Double Penetration) Fantasy Experience At A Swinger's Club! 🔥🔥

February 27, 2023 John & June
New Swingers Podcast
30- June's Very First "DP-Style" (Double Penetration) Fantasy Experience At A Swinger's Club! 🔥🔥
Show Notes Transcript

If you've ever wanted to hear a super hot story about a REAL stay-at-home mom experiencing her first "double penetration" (DP) fantasy, listen to this episode! John secretly arranged for June to have her first DP experience for her birthday. Did she love it or hate it? How did she overcome the fear of trying it? Will she never do it again or is she hooked and chomping at the bit to do it again? In today's episode of the New Swinger's Podcast, you're going to hear the answers to all of these questions... AND MORE! If you want to try out one of your own sexual fantasies, but feel anxious or afraid to do it, this episode will help you overcome your own fears and live out your hottest, most pleasurable sexual desires!

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Speaker 1 (00:00:00):
Welcome back to the New Swingers podcast. I'm John.

Speaker 2 (00:00:03):
And I'm June.

Speaker 1 (00:00:04):
Today we are going to be talking about June's first DP experience. If you don't know what DP means, that means double penetration. Double penetration meaning basically that's usually either a lady who has a guy's dick in her mouth while getting it in one of her other holes down there, either in the pussy or the ass, or getting it in the pussy and the ass at the same time by two dicks and June's. She's going to talk about <laugh>, how this came about and some of the feelings leading up to it, the developing fantasy that apparently was never there before. And today it was not today, but when we did it recently, it was with a guy behind her while she was sucking on me. So it was that kind. So there's other kinds of DP to do, but this was very, very interesting experience.

Speaker 2 (00:01:04):
Yeah,

Speaker 1 (00:01:05):
I'll give you my side as well, but we're going to mainly be hearing from her today and be sure if you haven't listened if you haven't given us a rating review, if you go do that, it takes three seconds. Go click those stars, helps us reach more people just like you. So just scroll down right now in your app and give us the rating. We appreciate it. So we're going to start off with an email though that June's going to go over and we've discovered recently, let's say recently, that's a relative, but more recently in the past year, six months or so, especially after being in the lifestyle that you like to be controlled and dominated, told what to do, and we're still learning about that. That's a pretty new thing. We're still learning about it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (00:01:54):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (00:01:55):
Yeah, we even had a big old fight earlier today and then I was like, wait, is this that <laugh>? Then she is like, yeah, and I'm like, okay. I know exactly what to do now, but we have an email from someone who's in a similar situation and she wrote this to us a few weeks ago and we actually lost the email, but we were able to go retrieve it. And so this is a question we're, we're just going to do the one email today and then we will get to the main subject of the show. Okay. So take it away June.

Speaker 2 (00:02:30):
Hey, June and John, my message most mostly speaks to June as I am a woman and can't speak to being a man l o l. But the hi and thank you goes to both of you. Well, hello and thank you for listening. So I listened to episode 21 in June. I have some similar feelings regarding liking a man to take charge. The rest of this paragraph is unsolicited support. Y'all seem to have a great handle on things great from each other, and y'all might have already heard this from your other dedicated fans. I am a woman that is super new to swinging and BDSM in the last year or so, coming from a religious background, loving your podcast and not having many friends I can talk to about all these new experiences, and I think we have at least a couple of those things in common.

(00:03:24):
Yeah, definitely. I just wanted to share a little of what I've learned to pay y'all back about me. I would call myself a feminist, which I know means a lot of different things and a liberal. Having said that, I have recently started a ds, which is dominant submissive relationship. That brings me great joy, peace, and I find very fulfilling. From my email, you might see that I'm slut. That's how we relate to each other, <laugh> in our relationship. My daddy only talks to me like that when we are in certain settings and conversations. This helps me feel respected, but also gives me the bad boy vibe I enjoy and that gets me off. But wanting that power dynamic to be in more or less parts of the relationship is also not bad in all caps she has. I appreciate how much you share on your podcast, so I know a lot about your life.

(00:04:30):
Sometimes I feel shame for wanting to be talked to like that when I have a great father and a great relationship with my father and other men in my life. I have certainly been scorned by men, but it sounds like you have gone through some incredibly tough things I have not gone through and won't disrespect you by trying to pretend to relate to it. I just wanted to say people from all backgrounds get turned on by all kinds of things and we are still awesome as fuck. Yeah. I will also say John seems to be a respectful man that you can do respect not just anyone gets to be a daddy. I have great respect for the man. I am dating my daddy, and that's why I am proud to be his good slut. Just wanted to bring BDSM thoughts to y'all's plates. Maybe it's something y'all would enjoy or something y'all are already looking into.

(00:05:33):
I guess because I am still making friends in this community, in these communities, I'm willing to reach out to complete strangers and talk to y'all like we're friends. I hope that's okay. Yeah, please feel free to delete or tell me to fuck off. No, I will not be doing that. Lol. I wrote this email while listening to episode 24, so it appears none. This is necessary. Expect that I get to reach out to someone in these communities of people I am working into, but have yet to make true friends just yet except my daddy. Of course. My favorite BDSM podcast today is called Loving bdsm. Either way, y'all have a fun show and it has helped me in my journey to these new experiences. I just had my first resort experience a couple weeks ago. Oh, it's fun and had a great time. Y'all's ability and willingness to be so vulnerable and share as much as you do has allowed me to think about a great many things and helped me really enjoy my first time. Thank you so much. Daddy's good slut.

Speaker 1 (00:06:49):
Well, thank you for that email and for your transparency with everything and the things you like. And I have a question here, June, that you might be able to chime in. She likes being called daddy's good little slut. What is it about names when it comes to that? Da, your daddy's girl or your daddy's good slut? What do you think is behind that? Because that's a huge turn on for a lot of ladies, you included as well as the lady who wrote the email. Yeah. What do you think is behind that? Why do you think that that's so desired and liked?

Speaker 2 (00:07:30):
Well, for me personally, I can't speak for every woman that listens or for even this lady because she says she has a great relationship with her dad and other men in her life. For me, I think it's because I didn't have a good relationship and I still don't have a good relationship with my dad. I was abused as a kid by two of his brothers and he never believed me. I didn't ever felt like he did anyway and still hangs around those people who abused me as a kid and knows that bothers me and still doesn't give a shit. So I think a lot of mine has to do with the fact that I didn't was never a daddy's girl, even though I only have two brothers and then me. So I am the only girl and I al have always wanted to be daddy's girl. So I think for me personally, it's because I didn't have that as a kid. I always longed to be daddy's little girl and I never was able to get that.

Speaker 1 (00:08:28):
Yeah, that makes total sense. A lot of it sounds like maybe it's about acceptance and feeling welcome and accepted and loved and wanted. Maybe those sort of pet names are things that maybe just in your mind it seems like maybe help you identify with belonging. Yeah, maybe that's kind of what it sounds like. So we used to think it was weird. Why does she call him daddy? That's so gross. Is she thinking about her dad? We're like, it's totally not that at all. No, it's a dynamic actually of got nothing to do with incest or anything like that. It has to do with, I think it has more to do with power and control. Some people are turned on by having power over somebody and other people are turned on by giving up control and there's deep psychology behind this stuff too. And one thing that might surprise a lot of people is that not all obviously, but a lot of people who are submissive a lot of times if you look at what they do for a living, if you knew this about them, there are people who are oftentimes very much having to be in control, juggling a million things in their career, in their home, whether it's a man or a woman.

(00:09:51):
And actually being submissive is a way that they can, through sex, they can actually give up that control for a time and not have to be in control. But it is in a safe environment where ultimately they do have control because if they say stop, then the person they're with, if they're a good person, they will stop. But it is almost, I've heard it said, it's a relief like that. Finally, you can just let go. And if you're submissive, let's say you're tied up or something, then it's like, oh, you literally can't go anywhere. Someone else is in control of this situation and there's a certain relief that feels good about that. And that's, again, that's not every person who has to control on the outside their job, career, whatever. But that is a lot of times the case.

Speaker 2 (00:10:40):
That's common. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:10:42):
So yeah, it is funny, not funny, but it's interesting because since being in the lifestyle, I used to look at people at their kinks and be like, that's not mine. So it's like, God, that's weird. Now we've been around so many lifestyle people it, it's amazing what turns people on. People are turned on by all kinds of things and a lot of the times they don't even understand why are you turned on by feeling pain or giving pain or being watched? Why get fucked or watching other people or whatever. There's a million of them. Most people we meet, they don't, don't really know why. They're just like, I don't know, I just think it's hot. Well,

Speaker 2 (00:11:34):
For me, I just thought of this and I'm still working through figuring out why I like certain things, but I just thought of this randomly. It just came in my mind. I'm like, because I love to be watched and I'm wondering if it's because for seven years of my life I was controlled by fear in every area of my life because I didn't want to be raped again as an adult. And so I lived every day as nobody's going to be checking me out. I'd get so angry if anybody stared at me or checked me out or any of that because it was all rooted in fear.

Speaker 1 (00:12:13):
It was your trauma trigger and you're so afraid it was going to happen again because you had never known life No, without it. Because the first time it happened, you were like four years old or something. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (00:12:24):
I was four when I was raped, but it was just like, it's crazy that it's just crazy because now I love being watched and I dress pretty. I dress very prodo provocative. I have an only fans, <laugh> sounds crazy to say that out

Speaker 1 (00:12:45):
Loud. Go click the first link in the show notes and you'll see what this beautiful woman June looks like on her only fans.

Speaker 2 (00:12:51):
But I say that all to say I was so controlled by fear and now I'm not any longer for about a year now. And it's like, it's crazy just that how now, I love being watched now. I like to, now I'm not being controlled by fear. If I'm scared about something, I usually run towards it now instead of away I

Speaker 1 (00:13:12):
Used to instead should I of shying away. Now she runs toward gunfire, <laugh> in a lot of different ways, whether it's fantasies or she, you're the kind of person now who you completely detest the thought that you're afraid of something. So it's like you have to go do it to prove to yourself you're not fucking afraid and you're not going to live in fear. And that's made you a highly vigilant and amazing person. Thank you. And what you've learned though, and I've watched you learn, is that most everything you've tried in the lifestyle, I can't think of one offhand, you didn't like everything you were afraid of and you said, fuck it, let's do it. I'm overcoming this.

(00:13:57):
None of it was as bad. No as you imagined. And now most of the time you're like, I actually really fucking enjoyed that. And so it's crazy. Once you do that a few times with some big fears, you start to wonder what else in the world am I afraid of? And is that all bullshit too? Yeah. Why am I living in such a cage in a prison in my mind? And then you realize all these things, A lot of things you were taught to be afraid of. And with the super mega, ultra religious upbringing, I mean you were taught to be afraid of everything. I mean, it's like nobody from that community, they would all think I'm nuts. But I think the level you were raised with religiously, I think it was abusive.

Speaker 2 (00:14:42):
Yeah, it was in a way,

Speaker 1 (00:14:43):
I think in ways that are so subtle, yet deep and deviant that nobody even calls it that because they think they're doing a good thing. Well,

Speaker 2 (00:14:52):
Yeah. And just last week when I did our first full swap, oh, where was I going with that? I just went blank shit.

Speaker 1 (00:15:04):
Well, I was talking about how it was deeply abusive, how the psychologically,

Speaker 2 (00:15:09):
Okay, now I remember. Thank you. I remember thinking I didn't sleep that night after we did that full swap. I did not sleep that night. I could not sleep. I had just such a hard time sleeping. And it was like everything was great with the people that we did that with. It was not even the person who were great friends with them. We've played with them since then, but it was just so much of like, oh my God, I don't feel bad for what I did. So now I feel bad because I don't fucking feel bad. Which what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (00:15:47):
<laugh>? Yeah, that's called a mind fuck. I don't feel bad about this, but I think I should because I've been trained, I should feel bad about this. But now I'm feeling bad because of the fact I don't feel bad about something I was taught I should feel bad about. And my bottom line with there was this, Hey, forget all that shit. Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (00:16:06):
Yes,

Speaker 1 (00:16:07):
Yes. Okay. Period. End of story. That's what there is to it. If you enjoyed it and you're fine with it and everybody was consenting and had a good time, then that's how there is to it. But you were giving all these other stories and what it means about you and what'll happen and all it just like God damn <laugh>, no pun intended, but fuck

Speaker 2 (00:16:28):
<laugh>. Yeah. So

Speaker 1 (00:16:29):
We're going to jump to today's, and that was great, great points you just made, and it kind of segues into today's episode, your first DP experience, your double penetration experience, which again, if you're just joining us, if you don't know what a DP is, it's when a woman takes two penises inside her in any combination of her three holes. Alright, so after, well more recently. Well, you've always been against that idea, but more recently, more recently, you've been curious and anything if you're curious but afraid, you're probably going to fucking do it. Yeah. I'm not living in fear no more. Yeah. And so we did.

Speaker 2 (00:17:14):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 1 (00:17:15):
There's a lot of people who they want to try new fantasies but they have to try to overcome those feelings and fears that they have around doing that thing. And sometimes if you, like you said before, if you plan something, sometimes you're just nervous until it Oh my God, leading up to the time it happens, which is why we discovered June likes it. If she wants to try something new, she wants me to just basically secretly it and then in the moment be like, here, go over here and do that with that person or her or whoever. Go over there and do that. And she likes, because that allows you not to have time to think. And I

Speaker 2 (00:18:00):
Don't have time to get nervous or get into my head or get anxiety.

Speaker 1 (00:18:03):
And you also mentioned you the fact that, well, I'm just doing what my husband's telling me to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:18:08):
I'm doing what daddy tells me to do.

Speaker 1 (00:18:09):
So you feel like that sort of justifies doing whatever it is we're about to try and do for the first time. And in a way, I think psychologically, I could be wrong, maybe it's some people, not others. I think psychologically that might give you an out, maybe it gives you, lets you off the hook a little bit. Yeah. Where if you were wrong, of course that of that would mean, well, if that were the case, then I'm the asshole who told you to do the bad thing. But that's a burden. I'm willing to carry it.

Speaker 2 (00:18:47):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:18:48):
But the thing is, the difference is I know you want me to tell you to do these things, and that's something new we're learning too. And so there's a lot of tripping and falling and getting back up and finding the path you're on with this stuff. And we're going through that pretty constantly as we try new things and our fantasies develop and evolve. And whenever June covers her face and shakes her head and grins, I know she's about to tell me something new she's having a fantasy about, but she's embarrassed. But anyway, you're not alone. If any of this sounds familiar and you've been through it, you're thinking you want to try something. But even the voicing of it makes you cringe because you're like, oh my gosh, why do I want that?

Speaker 2 (00:19:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:19:42):
And what were you talk that means about you if you do want that? Yeah, but again, like I said earlier, people are turned down by all kinds of shit, all kinds of things. And they didn't choose what turns 'em on. That's one thing I actually don't think any of us, I could be wrong. I don't think anybody chose their turn ons.

Speaker 2 (00:20:01):
No. To

Speaker 1 (00:20:02):
Me, they've always just come to me. I'm their own from somewhere. And so you are like whatever you are you,

Speaker 2 (00:20:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:20:11):
I mean, as long as you're not hurting anybody against their will, because some people like to be hurt pain, but as long as it's all consensual and it's good time for everybody, I don't see any reason not to explore it because that's part of what you're made of. That's part of the makeup of who you are. And why should we feel bad about something that we didn't choose to have as a part of us? It came from somewhere outside of us. We didn't choose us, so why the fuck would we be on the hook or responsible for or feel bad about being this way?

Speaker 2 (00:20:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:20:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:21:53):
No. And we were celebrating my birthday early. It's this week coming up, but we celebrated it early.

Speaker 1 (00:22:01):
And so she had told me what she was toying around with in her head and wanting. And so that day, earlier that day, I actually texted our buddy GI Joe, who in the last episode you heard about the full swap we did with him and Barbie, who are they become good friends of ours. And I basically told him, Hey, would you like to be the other guy? And as a part of her birthday present and no pressure, obviously, of course, you know what God would say no to that. And then I thought it was funny. I texted him and I said, by the way, I never thought I would ever text somebody that message <laugh> like, Hey, dp, my wife with me at the club tonight. Like, check yes or no

Speaker 2 (00:22:48):
<laugh>.

Speaker 1 (00:22:48):
Basically what it said though. Oh my God. He's like, hell yeah, man. Awesome. And so I didn't tell her this was going on.

Speaker 2 (00:22:59):
No. And I had told you, don't tell me. Here's my fantasy. I don't want to know ahead of time. I don't want things planned ahead of time if we're going to play with somebody. I don't like having a lot planned ahead of time. We had our friend come over yesterday, unicorn friend, come over yesterday and we start trying to talk about things we're going to do, and then I start getting nervous. I'm like, we can't talk about it. We can't just can't do that ahead of time because then I just get in my head and I get too nervous. So I told him

Speaker 1 (00:23:28):
K was wonderful. Yes. What a wonderful lady. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:23:31):
So I say that to say, I had told him, look, I want to try a dp, but I do not want to know when that's going to happen because I just know myself and I will talk myself out of it. I'll get in my head, I'll get nervous and get out and get anxiety. So I

Speaker 1 (00:23:49):
Told you sound anxious right now as you're describing, getting anxiety.

Speaker 2 (00:23:54):
So I was like, can't. Like you just have to do it ahead time.

Speaker 1 (00:23:56):
So we get to the club and actually sometimes you can plan stuff that happens. Other stuff happened spontaneously because the DP experience, that was actually the second new experience we had. The first one was with a different couple we've become friends with more recently, we'll just call them A and C and very attractive couple. He's a great looking dude. I'm totally hetero, but I know when a dude is a good looking guy, generally he's a good looking dude, and she is absolutely smoking hot, beautiful, like five foot, nothing, a hundred pounds, nothing, whatever. Absolutely beautiful woman in the most respectful way. I mean that. And a wonderful lady. And we did not plan doing anything, but we were in the porn theater part of the Swinger Club. We go to <affirmative> as a movie theater room, and there's a lot of these black leather couches in there. And let's just say whenever we go in there, the past few months ever, most people aren't watching this, the big projection screen, they're usually watching us or the other people who are getting it on for real in front of 'em. And so we are in there, and June is going down on me. I'm sitting on the couch, she's blowing me. Well, all our other friends, married couple, they come in, they're on the couch in front of us and to our left.

(00:25:32):
And so she starts going down on him. Well, I told June, I said, Hey, go ask C. Ask her if they want to sit on the couch next us, because there was a lot of space. And from what I remember, you whispered in your ear, ah, I'm watching. And then that turned into you making out with her. And I'm just sitting there. Well damn, bring some of that action over

Speaker 2 (00:25:54):
Here.

Speaker 1 (00:25:56):
And so that was really hot.

Speaker 2 (00:25:58):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:25:59):
Yeah. So then they're like, yeah. So they sat on the couch there and next to us, and he's going down. She's sitting down, he's in front of her, he's going down on her, you're going down on me, kind of looking at everyone and getting real turned on. I can see, I'm looking in people's eyes, I'm looking at them, they're looking at me and I'm like, this is fucking hot. And then we asked, Hey, do you guys swap it all to any extent or are you open to that? And one thing we always say is there's absolutely no pressure. We're just checking interest. Yeah. It's totally okay if not. And well, they're okay with soft swapping. So you went over with him? Yep. Got on your knees. She came over with me, got on her knees and probably what, 5, 10, 12 minutes. <laugh>. You ladies really pleased us. And

Speaker 2 (00:26:57):
That was my first time ever doing that.

Speaker 1 (00:26:59):
Yeah, 17, 18 years of being together and married. The only one you've had in your mouth, <laugh> until the other. And I told until the only night before he left, I slapped him on the shoulder. I said, Hey, congrats. You're the only one she's ever had in your mouth sent in 17, 18 years other than me. So I'm like, congratulations. And we laughed. It was funny.

Speaker 2 (00:27:21):
And I was totally, it was no big deal. I was it okay. I was so nervous. A

Speaker 1 (00:27:26):
Lot of women out there are like, oh my God, what's it going to be like? They're probably messing in their head. Oh

Speaker 2 (00:27:32):
Yeah. Just like me.

Speaker 1 (00:27:33):
Okay, well, yeah. Can you talk about,

Speaker 2 (00:27:35):
Well, and here's the hilarious part. I have to say this because this is fucking funny. So <laugh>, literally, I'm going to start talking to my friend Barbie.

Speaker 1 (00:27:46):
This is before

Speaker 2 (00:27:48):
Anything started. And I literally was like, Hey, I have two things that I'm wanting to try fantasies. And then I did the whole, I covered my face and I was bright red, and thank God it was dark in the clubs. So she couldn't tell how red I was. And so I told her, I said, I, I've never went down on anyone but John, another guy. I've never, I've done a blow job with anyone else besides John. And so I want to try it so that I'm not nervous about it anymore and to see if I like it or not. And then I want to try double penetration. And that's when I really covered my face. And she's like, oh, okay. Go. You go, girl.

Speaker 1 (00:28:27):
Now again, this first encounter with our couple's friend, A and C, this was spontaneous. Yeah, it would not plan. No one knew it was going to evolve and happen. But that plus the DP ended up happening that night within about 20 minutes of each other. Yes, a half hour. And so it's

Speaker 2 (00:28:45):
Funny how I literally said the two things, and then both of those

Speaker 1 (00:28:49):
Happened and I didn't know you said those things.

Speaker 2 (00:28:52):
Yeah. So it was totally no big deal. I thought it was, oh my God. But it was no big deal. I have found I like pleasing people, so I making people feel good.

Speaker 1 (00:29:06):
Good. And that's a turn on for a lot of people. I know. It is for me, whenever I'm with somebody, whether it's you or another lady, I aim to please, it's a turn on to or watch them have pleasure. Yeah. So that was a amazing

Speaker 2 (00:29:22):
Two beautiful women that was hot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:29:23):
Two beautiful women, u2. Totally awesome. And we're grateful for you. And then we went across <laugh>, the hallway into what's called the red room. This is a room with a bunch of beds and some curtains that are shear curtains. So you can close, but you can still kind of see through. And it's all dim red lights. So it's like a little red light district in there, dim red lights. Really? You can see. Yeah. People are definitely going to fuck in this room.

Speaker 2 (00:29:53):
Yeah. Well, and you can either close the shear curtains or you can leave them open. And of course, I think we had ours open,

Speaker 1 (00:30:01):
I think. Yeah. Cause you like being watching. So did they. Yep.

Speaker 2 (00:30:03):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (00:30:04):
So GI joined Barbie. They started out in the theater room with all of us too, and they were playing, but then about 20 minutes before we left, they went across the hall into the red room, started playing. Well, when we got done with a n c, we went across the hall and there was a Barbie and GI Joe, and we were just like, Hey, how's it going? Laid down on the bed next to him. She was on her back. He was playing with her. I laid down next to her and then you started going down on me standing up, leaning over on the edge of the bed, and I whipped out a condom. And you couldn't see it?

Speaker 2 (00:30:49):
No, I was busy going down. I was busy giving

Speaker 1 (00:30:52):
You Ed over your head and handed him a condom, gave him a thumbs up. This is what we talked about.

Speaker 2 (00:30:58):
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (00:30:59):
You had no idea.

Speaker 2 (00:31:00):
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (00:31:01):
And then suddenly what happened?

Speaker 2 (00:31:04):
Well, you said, go to the edge of the bed. Go to the edge of the bed and bend over. And I was like, oh shit. <laugh>. Okay. I'm thinking in my head, I didn't say it out loud, but in my head I'm like, oh shit. I'm like, this is happening. Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:31:22):
Did you realize that was happening or is that what he means?

Speaker 2 (00:31:26):
I had a feeling what was happening, because why else would I go on the edge of the bed not near you

Speaker 1 (00:31:31):
And bend over

Speaker 2 (00:31:32):
As you bend over as you're sucking at me, as I'm sucking you. So I knew, I was like, oh shit. Okay. But I liked it because I had no time to get nervous. I was like, oh, okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (00:31:43):
Okay. So as it's happening, think back as it's happening, you go, okay, that just went in and John's in your mouth. Yeah, he's back there. What was going through your head? Other than my dick? Sorry, I had to say it. I didn't even plan on saying that. That was totally unplanned.

Speaker 2 (00:32:13):
I thought it was really hot. I actually really liked it. Tell us about that. I got really close actually too. It was

Speaker 1 (00:32:22):
Close to having an orga.

Speaker 2 (00:32:23):
If we would've kept on, I probably could have

Speaker 1 (00:32:27):
Really? I didn't know that. You all are hearing it the first time. So

Speaker 2 (00:32:32):
It felt really good. Becau, I don't know why with one in my mouth and that, I don't know. It was like, huh? I was like, that's interesting, <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (00:32:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:32:44):
And I don't know if it was maybe the position because I was bent over the bed and just that felt really good like that. And then I loved having your dick in my mouth at the same time. So I liked all the attention was on me. So felt

Speaker 1 (00:32:59):
So two guys had their total attention on you?

Speaker 2 (00:33:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:33:03):
Pleasuring themselves with you, with your body, and also pleasing you. Okay. Yeah. So it was total focus then. You think that has something to do with the turn on then all the attention being on you?

Speaker 2 (00:33:15):
Probably, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:33:20):
No, I've heard people outside the lifestyle, and I used to say this too, how can you watch somebody fuck your wife? Some people are really turned on by that. I'm actually not turned on by it. But if June wants to try something, I'm not against it because I realize she's a human being like me. And she might not know why me. You're turned on by certain things, but we have enough respect for each other that, well, anything that I want to try, basically I can. And same with her. We're two separate humans, but we both have desires and we don't know why. Let's talk about it, explore it, do it safely if you want. And so a lot of guys might ask, well, hey John, did that bother you to see your buddy behind your wife? No, because I just want to make sure that she was having a good time enjoying herself. And she was at the same time. I've fucked his girlfriend. I've eaten out as a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (00:34:20):
Well, she was on, was sitting on your face while I was doing the blowjob, and he was behind me just saying, <laugh>. We

Speaker 1 (00:34:27):
Forgot to say that part. How could I forget?

Speaker 2 (00:34:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:34:31):
As he's fucking you from behind and you're sucking my dick, his girlfriend Barbie is sitting on my face facing him and you. Yeah. So

Speaker 2 (00:34:41):
They like to, she likes to watch him with other girls.

Speaker 1 (00:34:47):
And so yeah, they were watching each other with other people. That's just their dynamic. So we definitely partook in that.

(00:34:57):
Again, I didn't get anything out of it. Maybe because for the first four or five minutes I couldn't see anything because she was sitting on my face. But even after she got off of it it just wasn't any big deal. He's not a bad guy. He wasn't hurting you. I know he is a good dude. I know that. I don't know. I didn't get any arousal out of it, but I'm not against it. And so that's something I've had to figure with me because some people like it, some. Some are totally against it. Whatever your thing is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:35:32):
Well, for me too, I don't seeing John with other women, but he doesn't have another choice. <laugh> like me, I'm bisexual, so I play with a girl or I can play with a guy.

Speaker 1 (00:35:45):
Yeah, I'm a hundred percent heterosexual completely. And so all I can play with is

Speaker 2 (00:35:50):
Girl. And so I've had to get over that too for me.

Speaker 1 (00:35:53):
And how do you do that? You play with them too at

Speaker 2 (00:35:57):
The same time? I play with them too at the same time. And if you're fucking her, and I'm not too much involved. There was a couple parts yesterday that I just kept kissing on you guys while y'all were doing that. As long as I'm, I stay busy somehow I'm somehow involved. It seems to be okay. Do I seeing him fucking someone, not me. It doesn't really do anything for me either. I mean, I'm not turned on by it either, really. But it's kind of how you feel too, John. Kind of like you want to try it, and I know that you doing you variety and you like doing that. So I want you to be able to do that because I love you and I want you to enjoy yourself too. So it's, I think, yeah, it's not a turn on for me, just like it's not a turn on for you. But we realize that we are, like you said, two different people and we have different things that we like, and we're there together enjoying it together.

Speaker 1 (00:36:56):
If I see you genuinely enjoying yourself sexually, I almost don't even care what it is. If you're enjoying it, I like to know that you're enjoying yourself. And that doesn't ever exclude me or means, it doesn't mean some guy's better than me or some, that lady is better than me. That oftentimes is the fear, the root of the fear. I have no fear that someone is going to be better than me. They're just different. And I know for me, one of the reasons I like so many with different ladies is because they all sort of feel and smell different. They all have their own. When we were in the theater room and we had saw swapped and with a C, and she was going down on me, I noticed how silky soft her skin is.

(00:37:56):
I mean, you're not a petite woman, but you're not by any means a large woman. You would be considered small to average, but she's very petite. And I noticed with her hair was super soft. It felt different than yours. Her breast did. When I touched him her skin, it just felt different. And it wasn't better. It was just very different than yours. And yours is mainly than one. I'm always used to, some women are more muscular, they're thicker, they have harder muscles under the skin. And so there's that too. Whatever you're into. But yeah, it never has to do with, is this lady better than June or is that guy or lady better than me? With her? It has nothing to do with that. It's kind of different. And it's like that old phrase, variety is the spice of life. That's always been my take on it. Variety is fun. It's exciting variety in everything. And so that's just one example. So even going back to the DP experience if you're enjoying yourself for whatever reason, I don't have a problem with that. Just not about me. It doesn't mean anything bad about me. It doesn't exclude me. If I was going out behind your back and doing things with ladies, that would be a problem

(00:39:25):
And it would be excluding you, which I think is what most people's big fear is probably. Well, what if they find something better than me that they like and then it breaks us up? Well, that does happen sometimes, and there's a million reasons that could happen in your relationship, but there are a lot of swingers you'll talk to where the lifestyle, the swinger lifestyle actually enhance their relationship. And they're stronger than ever because they understand each other better. They communicate better. I mean, I would say just in my experience, if you want to learn how to communicate really well with somebody or your spouse, find people who are swingers, who've been doing it a long time,

(00:40:12):
And they've been together the whole time because they've had discussions you probably can't imagine. And they got to the point where they could have those discussions and not want to kill each other or get mad. Or if they did, they got over it and then they clarified what the issues really were. And then they dealt with those and found solutions. I mean, I can't think of probably any demographic of people who are probably better communicators in the world than people who have been in the swinger lifestyle a long time. Because it will force you to have conversations not only maybe you didn't want to have, but conversations you never imagined would come up. Well. And then it's like, well, what if my spouse or my partner likes something that I'm totally against or vice versa? Well, now you have to deal with that or bring it up or figure a way to very calmly talk about it and learn about each other. You and I, we get through a lot of this because each of these things, because we just have that perspective that the more I learn about June, the more I love her. I don't want her to hide things from me. I want to know who she, to know who she fully is in every way and even enjoy that with her.

Speaker 2 (00:41:26):
And same with June. With June <laugh>, my name's John. Same with John. Learning what loves and doing that with him and letting him experience what he finds that he loves, enjoys. It's just loving each other where you're at. Whatever you end up finding that you like,

Speaker 1 (00:41:47):
It's why can't we just all accept each other for how we are? Yeah. Why do we have to make your differences about me or vice, or let ourselves off the hook for our thing, but not do the same for other people? Yeah. I think a lot of us are raised that way.

Speaker 2 (00:42:03):
Well, and we had a fight about that recently too, just the other day because Oh yeah. So we're not guys just know that we're still figuring all this out too. You're not alone and in figuring things out. And I honestly feel like even though I've hated all the fights that we've had, and most of them have been me getting out of my dumb head with shit from being raised the way I was, that is the root of all of my R fights have been because of the way I was fucking raised. And getting all that shit out of your head is a process. But I just realized, even though I've really hated all our fights, I feel like though through those, we've gotten to know each other better. We've gotten closer because of those. Absolutely. Because we've found out things through the fights that found we,

Speaker 1 (00:42:54):
Well, we didn't let it destroy us. We let it help us be more productive. We look at it and go, okay, here's what I'm seeing. This is maybe the next day after a big fight, here's what I'm seeing. Here's my understanding. Is that the way it is? You just yes or no? And what does that mean? And I can either accept or reject that. And we usually, after a fight, it's like the next day after we slept on it, it's very much just like, all right, we don't want to keep doing this, but all right, here's the deal. Here's what I meant when I said this. Here's what you may have heard, but here's what I meant. Does that help? Does that make sense? I mean, sometimes we're talking about the same damn thing, but we're talking different, or we're saying it different. And so one of us thinks that the other one means something else, but we were actually trying to say the same exact fucking thing, which would've made the fight not even exist if we would've known that.

Speaker 2 (00:43:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:43:56):
And

Speaker 2 (00:43:56):
It's frustrating because literally, I'll admit it, most of the fights we've had, I think all of them, most 99.9% of them have been because of me getting in my head of overthinking shit. And like, oh my God, why am I letting this bother me again?

Speaker 1 (00:44:14):
Well then, I mean, I'm not a toxic narcissistic male chauvinist any like, no. I mean, perfect. But I'm none of that. No,

Speaker 2 (00:44:26):
But

Speaker 1 (00:44:26):
I agree. Most of the problems we've had, it has come from your insecurities. I know again, I'm not perfect that that can sound really fucked up, and I get that. But we both looked at that and said, yeah, it's the truth though. But my whole thing, I'm a guy and I like women, and I'm just in this thing to have fun. And if it started affecting us in some way, obviously we deal with that. So I'm not like shaming June. I'm not Oh, no, no, no. I'm not blaming. That's literally not what I'm doing when I'm agreeing with her, because I agree, it probably sounds like an asshole thing to go. Yeah, you're right. Not a hundred percent of the shit we argue about it comes from you. In our case, it actually does though. But I'm understanding, and I try to see things your way, talk through it, get to the root of it, and if there's something ultimately that is just a big deal that we can't get past, which we haven't actually found that yet, we come first.

(00:45:29):
I wouldn't choose anything over you. But another thing is, I mean, we've discovered that you like me telling you what we're going to do and you not having a choice. I mean, something we learned hell, even this morning, oh my God, we won't go into details, but fuck, this morning everything was fine. Then we watched the third 50 Shades of Gray movie. Everything was fine. I'm like, damn, we're about to probably go in the bedroom. And then she started saying a few things that was totally killing the vibe. And I'm like, why the fuck are you, we just built up the boiling water for two hours, and now it's like you're throwing ice water on it. What? And she's done that in the past several times. And it's really, really, really, really frustrating as a guy, because it's almost like it, it's a tease, but it's more deviant.

(00:46:27):
I'm like, what is your deal? Well, I am not an abusive person. I've never hit June. I would never hit June. No. But I was seriously fucking pissed off. And I went, you're in the kitchen afterwards. I'm at the fridge and it dawns on me, and I look around the corner. I look around the corner of the fridge at you, and I said, were saying these things because you wanted me to get angry, so I would be rough with you because you like it rough, and you got that look on your face that you have right now.

Speaker 3 (00:47:06):
And I started crying, and I was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 (00:47:11):
Well okay. So you were trying to get me to do something without telling me you wanted me to do something. So I basically took note from Christian Gray, and it solved all the fucking problems in your asses. Probably still red. It is.

Speaker 2 (00:47:28):
And that's okay. I like it.

Speaker 1 (00:47:30):
But the afterwards, I'm like, that was really good sex.

Speaker 2 (00:47:34):
It was

Speaker 1 (00:47:35):
Because it's, it is from the movie. The best line in that whole series is in my gosh, the first movie. She goes, are you, Anastasia? Says, are you going to make love to me? And he gets down right in her face and he goes, I don't make love. I fuck hard.

Speaker 2 (00:47:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:47:53):
So let's just say I

Speaker 2 (00:47:55):
Fucked me hard today. I

Speaker 1 (00:47:58):
Grabbed you.

Speaker 2 (00:48:00):
Yeah. I was eating you the same. I was eating jello.

Speaker 1 (00:48:03):
I waited for it. If you done eating jello, I grabbed you. I took in the bedroom and you loved every second of it. And I'm like, okay, surely we can get back to this intensity, but without you actually pissing me off.

Speaker 2 (00:48:20):
Yeah. And I'm to, I'm like, I said, guys, we're still working through this. Literally, this happened today, and I'm still trying to, and I asked him, I was like, how can I do this without it getting to where I'm making you mad,

Speaker 1 (00:48:32):
Legitimately hurting? I feel like mentally abusing me almost. But she never has malicious intent. No. So what we're trying to do is like, okay, there's this part in 50 Shades where a few parts, she'll roll her eyes at Christian, and he goes, did you just roll your eyes at me? Because he always punishes her. Yes. Well, at first she didn't realize she was doing it. Well, secretly she liked that shit.

Speaker 2 (00:49:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:49:02):
So by the third movie, she rolls her eyes at him, and he's like, did you just roll your eyes at me? And she grins at him and goes, yeah, she's doing it. So that, and

Speaker 2 (00:49:11):
He's like, why are you defying me? And then she's like, because I can,

Speaker 1 (00:49:15):
Yeah. And his whole thing is, you will not defy me. So she's like, push. She's pushing his button. She's

Speaker 2 (00:49:20):
What you call a brat, which I have found I'm a brat as well.

Speaker 1 (00:49:25):
Yeah. So we're kind of learning. I'm trying to learn, well, so is this for real or is she legitimately, is there something wrong? Or is she just pushing my buttons? And it's a gray area, and I'm not realizing she's trying to push my buttons. But once we figured out, oh, you wanted me to be that way, and then everything was better instantly, and you liked it, and afterwards you're like, yep, that's what I wanted. And by the way, we didn't plan on saying this. We're being totally transparent with you

Speaker 2 (00:50:00):
Listening to this off the cuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:50:01):
We did not plan on talking about this. This just happened three hours ago.

Speaker 2 (00:50:08):
So that's why I keep saying this. I think I've said it multiple times in this episode, but that's why I'm saying, guys, we're still figuring shit out that how we are, we've been in this seven months, we're still figuring out who we are and things that we like and what turns us on and fantasies that we have. So we're still trying to figure all this out too. So you had your

Speaker 1 (00:50:31):
First dp I

Speaker 2 (00:50:32):
Sure did.

Speaker 1 (00:50:33):
Mouth and pussy. Yep. Doggy style. There's another combination you can do. Yeah. I guess we'll explore that possibly. Who knows? Who knows if June is interested in that or not? I'll bet she is <laugh>, but we don't know, apparently.

Speaker 2 (00:50:58):
I'm also still interested in the gang bang with girls just saying,

Speaker 1 (00:51:01):
Oh yeah. She discovered, she discovered, she discovered recently, one of her fantasies is a girl gang. Bang, Barbie

Speaker 2 (00:51:09):
Talk. Thank you. Barbie

Speaker 1 (00:51:10):
<laugh>. Barb Barbie was like, well, some conversation. She was like, what do you think? A gang bang. But all girls. And you were like, you're wet a fucking swimming pool. I

Speaker 2 (00:51:20):
Was. You were? Oh, yeah. Well, I told her, I was like, well, maybe, I don't know. But then the more I thought on it for a couple weeks after that, I was like, wow, I think I really actually would love to do a gang bang with girls. That would be hot

Speaker 1 (00:51:36):
<laugh>. Hell, I'd love to just sit and watch. It'd be even better to be involved. But I'm like, guy. So if I even got to be sit and watch, that would be a win. Because fuck that. That's hot. You're hot with, you're hot with other ladies. It's fucking hot.

Speaker 2 (00:51:48):
Well, thank you. So

Speaker 1 (00:51:51):
The dp, your first experience mm-hmm. Answer this, would you do it again?

Speaker 2 (00:51:57):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (00:51:58):
Well, there was no hesitation in that answer.

Speaker 2 (00:52:02):
Do it. It's in that exact position, too.

Speaker 1 (00:52:04):
In that exact, okay. Well, maybe

Speaker 2 (00:52:05):
Because I literally, if we would've done it, I'm not kidding you. Probably a few more minutes, I probably would've came.

Speaker 1 (00:52:12):
Well, fuck, now I know. Next time, me and Joe or whoever we're going to be doing a marathon, marathon TP on you, we're going to, we're just going to keep going till she gets there or whatever happens. I don't know. Because if we were that close, I'm like, shit, I,

Speaker 2 (00:52:32):
Yeah, I forgot to tell you that. But yeah, I got pretty close.

Speaker 1 (00:52:36):
Well, you usually need lots of vibration and stimulation to have an orgasm, but to think you were about have one without any vibration, CL stimulation, that's pretty amazing, because that's not typically how your body operates. And so mm-hmm. Not probably 95% of women also as far as orgasms, vibration and CLT stimulation. But yeah. Any other thoughts?

Speaker 2 (00:53:01):
I went down on Barbie in the club, <laugh> on the dance floor area, <laugh> on the couch.

Speaker 1 (00:53:06):
After all of

Speaker 2 (00:53:07):
This.

Speaker 1 (00:53:10):
We're sitting on these couches out near the dance floor, and Barbie's there with her dress kind of hiked up legs, kind of opened, no panties on. And I took the bottle of champagne, and I actually poured it on June's tits. And so she was standing right in front of Barbie. And so it actually splashed down out of the couch and got between your legs all over her butt in her seat. And so we were like, oh, whoops. And because I didn't actually mean to do that. So anyways, I grabbed you. I think I grabbed you by the back of the hair a little bit, and I whispered you,

Speaker 2 (00:53:49):
Which I love. I love it when he grabs my hair.

Speaker 1 (00:53:51):
So I grabbed your, by the back of the hair, I whispered. I said, Hey, go down on Barbie right now. And so she got down on your knees and started doing it. And I, I've taught June some technique. I'm doing that. And it looked like Barbie was enjoying it. So as far as I could tell, and everyone else in the club whose all eyes were on you <laugh>, were like, fuck. And I was sitting there,

Speaker 2 (00:54:16):
Fuck <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (00:54:17):
And everyone else was like, fuck,

Speaker 2 (00:54:19):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (00:54:21):
I was just like, holy shit. Hey. Oh. And then she stood up because she had the champagne all over her ass. And you and I were kissing her ass and the ass cheeks, and it was all wet with champagne. And yeah, they're like, Hey, we're just trying to help her dry off. We're good people.

Speaker 2 (00:54:37):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (00:54:39):
So yeah. Never had this much fun in church ever.

Speaker 2 (00:54:46):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (00:54:47):
Yeah. I was always told, this is such horrible stuff. Are you kidding? This shit's fun. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (00:54:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:54:54):
So wrapping it up, June header first, double penetration, liked it, wants to do it again. Maybe you're a lady out there. If there's ladies listening and they're thinking about that, they've never done it, just wrap up for a quick set. What would your advice to them be?

Speaker 2 (00:55:12):
I would say don't think anymore about it. Just do it

Speaker 1 (00:55:15):
So that way you can actually actually judge that way. Something based on your actual personal experience with it. Not what you think it'll be like, or what someone else said it would be, or thought it would be like, yeah. Because then you can choose for yourself and know, I liked it, didn't like it. And if you don't like it, the great thing is you just don't do it again.

Speaker 2 (00:55:34):
Well, and that's why, I mean, I didn't tell anybody but John about my fantasy to do a double penetration until that night that we didn't, I didn't know that we were going to do that until the other day. But I didn't tell anybody else because even including friends in the lifestyle, because, well, obviously not friends that weren't, but even our friends that are in the lifestyle, I didn't tell anybody because they may have their own opinion about it. And I wanted to have my own opinion.

Speaker 1 (00:56:03):
There's so many things in life where we think things are one way, because we've been told by other people they are, but that person's opinion might be bullshit, or they just had a bad experience, or they don't even know what the fuck they're talking about. And even if they did, maybe just because they didn't like something doesn't mean, doesn't mean I

Speaker 2 (00:56:17):
You won't. Yeah,

Speaker 1 (00:56:18):
Exactly. Doesn't mean you won't.

Speaker 2 (00:56:19):
So yeah, that's why I didn't even tell anybody about it either, because I was like, I wanted to make sure that I could have my own true opinion about it.

Speaker 1 (00:56:28):
And now you do. And you almost had your own orgasm about it too. And next time it'll be on my mind. I'm a

Speaker 2 (00:56:35):
Finisher, babe. I know you. My goal

Speaker 1 (00:56:36):
Is to get you there.

(00:56:38):
I have stood in some really awkward positions for a very long length, lengths and periods of time to get you there in the past. Yeah. And yeah, I don't like to fill a lady. And so sometimes I do. Sometimes I do. But we had a lot of sex the other night. Fuck. By the end of it, I was so fucking tired. Whether it was just playing around or it was the actual, that experience, or it was funny. One of the couples, I forget who it was, there's a couple there who's a friend of friends of ours at the end of the night, they were like, oh my God, everywhere we go tonight, we've seen you guys in a different place and playing with different people. Oh, really? Yeah. It was like three, four times they crossed us and they saw us in this room doing this or that room doing that. And as he was saying it, I'm, he was saying that, I'm thinking going, yeah, we were in there.

Speaker 2 (00:57:30):
Was it A and N? I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (00:57:35):
I don't remember

Speaker 2 (00:57:37):
Because I don't remember hearing that. They must have just told you that

Speaker 1 (00:57:40):
It might have been A and C, of course, they were included in one of those experiences. Someone's, every time we've seen you tonight, you've been doing stuff. Because I just said, it was like two 30 in the morning and I was like, dude, my dick is dead. I'm out of gas. I was so fucking tired. It was super

Speaker 2 (00:57:58):
Hot. I think we were going to try to another full swap again, but we had went and went for hours.

Speaker 1 (00:58:05):
I'm like, yeah, I even took some pills to have out with, and man, I was out of gas.

Speaker 2 (00:58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:58:13):
I learned from that though. I'm actually, I'm strong staying hard, going strong. 1230 or before, if I've already played for 45 minutes or longer, 45 minutes to an hour and a half after that, I think my body's tired. Usually it's getting hot in there. If the temperature gets hot, that works against me. Dreams. I'm learning that. Yeah. Yeah. If you have two, I didn't have a ton, but I had a, yeah, I'll write 'em amount to drink, which that can affect it too. And so

Speaker 2 (00:58:50):
It's kind of a combination of things.

Speaker 1 (00:58:51):
It was, but it was definitely not an uneventful night. No. And

Speaker 2 (00:58:57):
We

Speaker 1 (00:58:57):
Did God have, but we may have done more that night than I think maybe we've ever done any night there. We weren't planning anything. We just kind of bounced around and

Speaker 2 (00:59:07):
Love, it's a great birthday celebration for me. I'm about to turn 39 <laugh>.

Speaker 1 (00:59:12):
39. You had two very first experiences that were great ones. Yeah. Me and you swapping with A and C. Yep. Via saw swapping in the theater, and then the DP one with Barbie and GI Joe. So yeah, that was thank you for sharing that, by the way. Yeah. Not a lot of people would be willing to share that kind of thing, but you broke through a barrier if you're, you didn't want to be afraid of it, and now you're like, fuck, I want to do that again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:59:42):
I still like to not know because then I can't get nervous. Yeah. Even though I've already done it, I still just know myself. I still think it's better when I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:59:52):
Well, I like being sneaky and arranging things, so I

Speaker 2 (00:59:54):
Love that too.

Speaker 1 (00:59:56):
You and I have a lot of fun times ahead in our future, and you're so open minded now. It's where it's like, good Lord, what could I come up with? Anyways, if you have questions, maybe about your journey in the lifestyle, or maybe you're new. We're not the most experienced people in this, but we have been married almost two decades. Happily, if you have questions or maybe something on this episode brought a question to your mind, feel free to email us. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Feel free to email us your question and we can what we'll do is we'll answer anonymously. If we do answer, it'll be anonymous, so your name will never be used or nothing to identify you, <affirmative>. Just email us at new swingers podcast gmail.com. New swingers podcast gmail.com. And by the way, like June said a little while ago in the episode, she has an only fans. She has 32 Double D tits, big silver dollar nipples, and they're pierced and she loves showing 'em off because she's an exhibitionist. So this former church preschool teacher, <laugh> now as an only fans with her big pierce nipples on there, love showing 'em off. So if you're into that, click the first link in the show notes. It says something like, June's only fans pure nipples. Click that, check it out, and you can actually connect with her on there. Go do that. Have fun and go get your swing on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yes. Get your your swing on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Get your swing on

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
<laugh>.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
God, that's dating us. Was that nineties? Yeah. Was that Missy Elliot? Yes. Get your

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Freak. Get your freak out. Your

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Freak on. That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Get get. Get your freak on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Get your swing on <laugh>.