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Who Will Care for Us Tomorrow? The True Cost of Education Policy

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The political weaponization of early childhood education takes center stage, as these children will take care of us when we get older. The stay-at-home mom is considering childcare employment for the wrong reasons, while the school administrator is dealing with an employee whose child's father violated a protection order by impersonating a social worker. Subscribe to Stumbling Through Work wherever you get your podcasts.

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Introduction and Welcome

Speaker 1

Welcome to Stumbling Through Work where educators figure shit out . I'm your host , jarek Huff , and I'm here to explore and share the complexities of our work and to let you know you are not alone . Before we start , though , please follow this podcast and share episodes with others . You can find me on my website , wwwjarekhoffcom , where you can find links to my social media and where I share information and tips for educators . Now let's jump into today's episode . Hey team , welcome to another episode of Stumbling Through Work where educators figure

Trump Administration's Head Start Policy Change

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shit out . I've been meaning to talk to you all about this for a while , so let's talk about the early Head Start and Trump administration . Prepare yourself Undocumented children will no longer qualify for federally funded preschool throughout the Head Start program , under a major policy shift the Trump administration announced In a news release .

Speaker 1

The Department of Health and Human Services said it was rescinding a nearly 30-year-old interpretation of federal law issued under President Clinton that allowed undocumented immigrants to access certain programs because they were not considered quote federal public benefits . This change is part of President Trump's border and sorry , this is part of President Trump's border anti-immigration agenda . He assaulted in birthright citizenship , ramped up immigration enforcement and deportations , remove temporary legal status from immigrants from certain particular dangerous countries . Immigrants from certain particular dangerous countries withheld funding for EIL and threatened to punish states that offer in-state tuition to undocumented college students . Administration officials have said they hope many immigrants will self-deport if the United States makes life here more uncomfortable . Health and Human Service leaders cast the change as a way to protect benefits for Americans . The change is also at odds with how the Supreme Court has ruled K-12 education . In the landmark Pryler v Doe decision from 1982 , the justices ruled that children have a right to a free public education , regardless of immigration status . Head Start would now be considered a public benefit , the Trump administration said , because it offers services that are similar to welfare . Officials said the change aligns with Trump's executive orders , including a February order titled Ending Taxpayer Subsidation of Open Borders .

Speaker 1

While Head Start provides for school readiness , it also provides low-income children with their families with health and education . Sorry , with health , educational , nutritional and social and other services that are determined based on the family needs assessments to be necessary . Federal officials wrote in a notice announcing the change . Federal officials wrote in a notice announcing the change . Further , it may serve as child care for parents of younger children . In its press release , health and Human Services officials said , head Start will be reserved for American citizens from now on . Head Start provided preschool to over 544,000 children from low-income families , according to the latest federal data from 2022-2023 school year , while Early Head Start served more than 186,000 infants , toddlers and expecting parents . The program , which is celebrating its 60th anniversary this year , has reached 40 million children , but has recently faced a number of challenges , from federal staff layoffs to threats of eliminating the program .

Speaker 1

That was a lot , so let's break it down . First , let me go back to read this section . Just , I want to start off with this one . Administration officials have said they hope many immigrants will self-deport if the united states makes life here more uncomfortable . That , right there , lets me know that this is not about children at all . Children

Impact on Children and Future Generations

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are a pawn that you're using , which is horrible , like who you well nevermind . It's just . It's just really sad because people don't realize why Head Start was even created .

Speaker 1

Not to give you all a super long dissertation , but back with President Johnson in the fifties , in the war on poverty . This was started because a lot of states were not stepping up and doing what they needed to do , so the federal government had to step in to say if you all can't do it . I'm going to show you how to get shit done . I'm going to actually create a program that has higher levels of quality that you all obviously can't do , and we want you all to step up to us . That sums it up for the most part , and so that's why head start is the way that it is , where it's research-based , it is not just head start , but early head start as well . They are programs that help supplement where the states don't have the ability to do it for themselves .

Speaker 1

Now maybe we look at this different , because early Head Start is early childhood education and that falls under the Department of Human and Health Services , which is different than K-12 , because , as we just read , k-12 , it's totally fine , but I guess not an early headstart . I can't quite understand the difference , but maybe that's the issue . Maybe we need to move this shit over to K through 12 , but I do love the things that come along with headstart with are those nutritional needs to family needs , because it does go all the way back to pregnancy for some of these families and they do need that . This is what happens when you have unqualified people running shit . This is exactly what happens , because people just don't understand . These kids are still going to be here , whether you say they they can be a part of the program or they're not , because let me tell you , people will find a way . They're going to be here . But just remember that these children , these are going to be the ones that take care of us when we get older . These are going to be our doctors , our lawyers , our teachers , our judges , our mechanics , our plumbers . How are we setting them up to take care of us ? Because that's what that's the way society is . We are raising the generation that is going to take care of us , and I hope that we really think about that moving forward , because I don't feel like being misdiagnosed by my doctor and I don't want my mechanic tearing up my car when they don't have to . And

Asking for a Friend: Employment Questions

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on that note , we'll be right back . We all want our schools or programs to be the best and , although every school is different , all successful programs have the same fundamentals Best Practices for High Quality Preschool , afterschool and Enrichment Programs by Jarek Huff share standards to foster a high quality preschool , afterschool and enrichment programs by Jarek Huff share standards to foster a high quality program . These tips will help you put your best service forward , focusing on your children , families and communities . Best Practices for High Quality Preschool , afterschool and Enrichment Programs by Jare Jared Huff is available on Amazon and Amazon Kindle . Hey , team , we're back with Asking for a Friend .

Speaker 1

Question number one Hi everyone , I'm considering going back to work after being a stay-at-home mom for six and a half years . I'm curious if it's realistic to find a daycare or child care center that will hire me and also my two younger children to enroll there . I also have a six-year-old who's in school from 9 20 to 3 50 . He would ride the bus home or possibly to and from the center if that's an option . My background is in business and restaurant ownership and eventually I could see myself being interested in an administration director type of role , but for now I don't have much hands-on group care experience beyond being a mom . I toured one center today and it had a 1 to 14 adult to child ratio and honestly that feels overwhelming . As a mom of three , I know how hard it is to manage when you just need to use the bathroom or need backup . Two adults in the room seems more doable to me . Maybe I'm missing something . Does it get easier with training and experience , or is that the kind of ratio , as tough as it looks .

Speaker 1

So my questions are do child care centers often hire staff who also want to enroll their children ? Number two are there red flags I should be aware of before pursuing the path ? And question number three is this a reasonable option for someone with background ? Is this excuse me , is this a reasonable option for someone with my background , or should I look at other ways to re-enter the workforce ? Okay , first off , I'm going to answer your question . Do you find child care centers often hire staff who also need to enroll their children ? Yes , that is true . Are there red flags I should be aware of before pursuing this path ? Yes , they are , you , lady . Third , is this a reasonable option for someone with my background ? No , look somewhere else .

Speaker 1

You are not here for the children . Let's talk about that . You are not here for these children of the world . You are here for your kids and for you . Only Now .

Speaker 1

You didn't sit here and tell me about your child's bail schedule . You didn't tell me . You haven't been a stay-at-home mom for six and a half years , but your kid is six . I don't know what you're doing for the other half . Maybe he's on bed rest , I don't know . Not judging , then , your other two kids and is this gonna work for me ?

Speaker 1

Nah , this is about you looking for child care and let me tell you how I do not like hiring people with children . I mean , I do it , but my thing is , most people , especially when they are the primary caretaker , when their children are out sick , they tend to be out sick . Now , no punishment , I'm not , but from a business aspect , I need routine for the children in our care because , as we know , routine is important for children . They need to know who's going to be there . But when your child is sick , of course that takes precedence and I get it , I do do the same thing . Sick takes precedence for your child , and so children are always sick , especially young ones , especially you have infants . They're always going to the doctors , they're always getting shots , they always got fevers . They're being introduced to everything , especially in a child care center , because other kids are bringing stuff in .

Speaker 1

Let me be clear about that . Other children are bringing shit in , not we in the back room conjuring and concocting up hand , foot and mouth and random shit . You know , I had a parent say that to me one time , like well , they got sick , been being here . We didn't make it . We do not make that shit up in the back . These are other people , kids that bring in sickness . We don't just , you know , foster it out the water fountain .

Speaker 1

That shit be pissing me off . But back on task . I look y'all about got mad lady , this ain't the job for you . And then you go go find a table to wait , go bust a table , go do anything you need to do in the restaurant business . But this is not for you . You're just gonna piss everybody off and waste everybody time because your kid's gonna be . You're trying to pick up your kid from school . You're just not going to be there and you're not here for the right reason . So we're going to move on to the next question .

Speaker 1

I'm currently working as a preschool director and , honestly , the weight of the role has been catching up with me . Between managing staff , navigating parent concerns and never-ending workload , I've been stretched thin . On top of that , I recently had a baby and the demands of this job have started to feel overwhelming , not as sustainable for my family life . I've been seriously considering transitioning out of the director-teacher administration world and into a remote corporate position , teacher administration world and into a remote corporate position , something that would give me more flexibility , less emotional labor and , ideally , a better balance between work and being present for my baby . I'm curious to hear from anyone who has made a similar transition . Have you left teaching administration for a corporate or remote role ? How was the adjustment ? Did you find it to be worth it ? What skills translated well ? Do you ever regret ?

Speaker 1

I'm going to say this Sometimes you do just need to change . You might have been doing this job for a very long time and it is a lot of . We have lots of moving pieces that is going on . But what I am going to say to you , director , lady , is working from home when an infant is not really the business . We I at my schools we have lots of families that enroll because they try working at home and they're just like I . Just they felt like I thought I could do it and I just can't , because your children want your attention . They're crying , they're whining , they things are happening . You're caring for them . Yes , you can do it a day or two , maybe like a week , of where you're trying to alternate . You know taking care of them and you know working remotely , but at some point , when you're on a call , they crying , they whining , they need something , and I guess it depends on what kind of job . So I'll say , dear lady , woman , person , yes , do it , but remember it's not as easy as you may think that it is . And also , you are miss , your child is missing , because , since you are a director , you should know the importance of the socialization that the children are getting . If you're just keeping your infant at home which I get , it , it is infant , I mean , you know it's not the end of the world , but do what's best for you and your family at the end of the day , but I don't think it's going to be what you think it's going to be , though , but don't be there and be miserable too at the same time . Just move on , martha , if you have to .

Speaker 1

Our final question is a new employee is in their second week at my small school and the father of her child called the school impersonating a social worker . Asking about new employee sounded fishy . This is written a little weirdly , guys . Now I find out that this man has an emergency order of protection against him and new employee tells us many other bad things he's done . I sent a memo to our school with his photo and name , telling my employees to report immediately if seen New employee is great , very young . What do I do ? I want to support her , but I need to be realistic . This man could do something to my small business . Thank you .

Speaker 1

First off , I want to know why does it have to be a small school ? Does that have any variance on the situation ? Because it's a small school , am I supposed to have more empathy for you because your school is small ? I don't care if the school is big or small . This man is crazy what it sounds like like who calls a school and tries to impersonate a social worker . Okay , um , there's a lot to unpack there , but but from a from a business aspect , I definitely see what she's saying .

Speaker 1

And so this is one of those hard things where you don't want to punish the employee but you have to look out for what's best . So in this situation , my first thought was put the focus on the child , not the employee , and I think that's what most people on this lady is thinking is about the employee . No , if you focus on the employee , you can create more problems and it just comes off like you're punishing the employee . They didn't do anything . But let's look at the child . What's in the best ? What is best for the child , since the father has an emergency order of protection , which I think that's what she was saying is there's a protection on the employee , on the mom . It was written weird . So we're just going to connect the dots . I'm assuming that there is an order of protection on the employee , on the lady person , and that probably trickles down to the child , possibly .

Speaker 1

I'm curious is there any paperwork I have to see it Like ? Is there paperwork on the child as well ? Hopefully there is some on the child . If there is some on the child , then we can definitely do a clean , easy break . You cannot call here . You're violating . Get the police involved and go forward . Now if there's an order not on the child but on the teacher , now it's a different subject . But I would also say I will still involve the police because if there's an order out and they're calling , what number first off ? What number came up on the caller id ? Okay , back on task . Just curious , if there's that type of order out that he's obviously breaking it . So go for from there .

Speaker 1

Because , yes , we don't want to punish the teacher because she did nothing wrong . She's obviously trying to rebuild her life and moving on from the trash . We can't punish her for that one . But as far as a business , I get what she's saying , because you have to look out not just for the child , not just for the teacher , but you have to look out for every single thing , going from the building to any family that could be walking in . You don't know what craziness could happen , you don't know what they could do . And I know most people are probably thinking , well , you're going to have to get rid of the teacher , not necessarily If you take the protocols to do everything else making sure that you're watching who's coming in the building , making sure you know people are just not randomly coming in the building , being aware of who's calling on the phone , making sure that you're understanding privacy laws so that you're not giving out specific information about any employee to an uncertified person doesn't need to come from a certain email . There's lots of things you could do . So , lady , don't give up on her . Don't give up on the lady . Let her rebuild her life . Please let her rebuild her life and we'll be right back .

Interview Corner: Going Above and Beyond

Speaker 1

I love sharing information with educators and program administrators . I have had so many successes , but also so many failures in my education tenure . I want leaders to know what not to do , but , better than that , what to do . So I decided to write a helpful guide Best Practices for Center and Activity Directors . It's short and to the point . It's a compass to guide education leaders . These best practices will give you a foundation to lead your school program or organization . You can find Best Practices for Center Program and Activity Directors by Jared Huff on Amazon or Amazon Kindle . Okay , we are back with our interview corner for today .

Speaker 1

You asked the question give me a time that you felt you went over and beyond the job description , and they respond with well . Once a lady spilled her coffee and I looked at her and I felt horrible . I felt so bad for her because it was all over her , and so I told her where she can go to get a napkin and clean that shit up . I was off work and I didn't get paid to give her that advice . Do not hire them , move on . But some of y'all will because you hire out of desperation .

Speaker 1

The question give me a time that you felt you went over and beyond ? This question is about conflict resolution . I want to hear about what happened and how you fixed it . I don't know if you guys are aware of the STAR method , which is situation , task , action and Results . That's what I'm basically asking . I want to hear about a situation or a task that you faced , the action that you took and what the results that you received . I want to hear you actually talk about yourself , brag your ass off like talk about what you did that went over and beyond . Now I don't want to be in a situation . I don't want people to think that I expect for people to always go over and beyond . That's not what I'm doing . I want you to come and do your damn job and I want you to go home .

Speaker 1

Those are the best employees the ones that come , do their job , are efficient at it and go home . They're the best . I actually forget that . They work sometimes because they have no drama . They don't care about drama , they care about their job and they have a life outside of work and those are my favorite people . It'd be the drama ones that make me forget about the ones that just come in and do their work , because at one school I have one teacher and I forget about her . I honestly forget about her and she's been with us for like four years and I just forget about her ass . I do , and it's not on purpose . I have to sometimes , before I get there , to tell myself to go talk to her because I forget about her , because she does her job and she goes home . She doesn't ask questions Very rarely . She does . She knows her job , she does it well and she's in her room . She may poke her head out to say , hey , I need so-and-so , and then she stays in her room . Then when she's off , she's like all right , bye y'all , see y'all tomorrow . I'm like bye , she's such a great employee .

Speaker 1

To sum it up , I'm looking to hear a compassion story , something that's kind , something that says you have a soul and you are a human , to hear that you know this person was pissed off and you heard how frustrated they were and you said you know what ? Let me see what I can do for you , even though that's not technically your job . You're not a social worker , you're not whatever it is . You said what can I do to help , guide you , to make you feel better , to do something ? That's what I'm looking for . That's why I like that question . It's not about going over and beyond and I had to do all of this damn work and nobody pays me . That's not really what I care about and what I'm asking I'm making sure that you're a decent soul person and that you are a human being , you are an earthling with a soul and not a Pluterian who has no soul . That's what I'm looking for . So , going back to you know , the lady that you know spilled her coffee and you told her where to get napkins from . Damn , I mean , technically you were correct , but where was the soul of ? Oh , let me grab a napkin for you , let me help you .

Speaker 1

If that's that type of story that that person tells don't hire them , please don't , because that tell you , that tells you what kind of work you're going to get , but y'all still will do it because you hire and because

Policy Time: Confidentiality of Records

Speaker 1

you're desperate . And now it's policy time . Remember , something became a policy because someone didn't mess this shit up for all of us Covenantiality of records . Why is this a policy ? Let me tell you all a story of something that happened at my job before I started . So I have nothing to do with this . I was just told the story , and the reason why I was told the story was I was going through applications and I seen someone applied and I was going through their work history and they had worked at the company previously . So of course I asked people that have been there . I was like , hey , tell me about so-and-so . I seen they applied and this is what I was told .

Speaker 1

Well , once she was a manager and she did not get along very well with a lot of people . She had a nasty attitude with certain people and she let people know that if she didn't like them , they knew , and the people that she liked she was cool with Her . And this one teacher did not ever see eye to eye . They just did not get along , ever see eye to eye . They just did not get along . And from the way the story was told , there were words that were exchanged over the phone . So something happened .

Speaker 1

I'm what I'm gathering is that the teacher called in and the manager already didn't like her and somewhere in there , unprofessionally , words were exchanged and then this happened . The manager said oh , you trying to play B , I know where you live at , I can look in the system and I can run up on you and meet you at your house . Since you got all these words to say Now , obviously we , hopefully you can tell that . The rest of the story goes , that the person no longer . Well , obviously they don't work here because they're reapplying , but this is what caused them to let go , to be let go , and that is why confidentiality of records is a policy , because we must not use , share or disclose any information that has nothing to do with the job .

Speaker 1

This lady was going to run up on this other woman because she looked in the system to see where she lived . I mean , at this point she probably could have took a social and did identity theft . I don't know . But that's why things like this are policies , because there's always someone that doesn't know how to act , someone that always got to take shit to a whole nother level and , of course , you all are probably wondering what happened .

Speaker 1

So as I seen the application and I was told the story , I said , oh , I just shifted it to the bottom of the pile and just moved on , because I said I don't need that drama . And you know , sometimes people change , people have grown , people change . This was years before , this was before I started . So , um , and a couple of years have gone by , but I don't believe in that much damn change . Some things are just who people are at your heart , you messy at the heart , you still want to roll up on somebody and I don't believe that's going to change . So she ain't doing it on my watch . So she did not get interviewed , she did not get consideration . She was put at the bottom of the pile . I like literally took hers and just stuck it at the bottom and said don't revisit , it's going to be here . And she has applied several times on . Indeed , which has made me laugh as I ignore it .

Speaker 1

I wish it was like a block button on Indeed , like you can just block people , like on Instagram , so they just can't even see your postings anymore . I wish that was a thing . Indeed . I'm giving you an idea to do so . We can block folks because she needs to be blocked , but that is why this is a policy . Well , that's all that I have for you all this week . I want you all to remember that our children will take care of us . So what will that look like ? Don't talk to dads who impersonate social workers and don't use confidential records to threaten other staff members . Other than that , talk to y'all next week

Episode Closing and Takeaways

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. Bye . That's it for today . If you liked this episode , it would mean so much to me if you left a rating review and subscribe to the show . I'd love to hear from you . You can visit my website , which is in the show notes , to contact me , and I hope you have a great rest of your week and speak to you all soon .