North Florida Sports Network Podcast
North Florida Sports Network Podcast
FSU Baseball Surges, Basketball Legacy Reflections, and College Sports Evolution
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Speaker 2There's no football.
Speaker 1It's in february. So what the hell? What are we gonna do? Well, we're gonna talk about football. Might review captain america, brave new world, stick around for that. But fsu baseball underway. Nice start to the season for the knolls. We're going to go over the lineups. We haven't done that yet. I'm getting towards the end of an era in um fsu basketball. Lauren hamilton might look back on some of his best moments, or my favorite moments that I remember. So a lot to get to. Well, let's start at FSU baseball.
Speaker 2Yes, let's start there.
Speaker 1I'm not asking Jimmy Reno. He's our FSU baseball guy.
Speaker 2Am I? Yeah, because I've watched the first four games.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, you watch a lot of the games. Yeah, and this is a good team. You've been telling me it's the sport, it's the only sport going right now on the men's side, and so far, so good. On the early season returns, would you say yeah, um, the pitching staff is.
Speaker 2I think it's going to be the strength of the team, um hold on.
Speaker 1Yeah, we got it um technical difficulty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's good, though the pitching staff is. Yeah, we got a.
Speaker 2Technical difficulty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's good, though the pitching staff Is going to be the strength Of the team man.
Speaker 1Jamie Arnold. Everybody knows about him.
Speaker 2Right Coming in. You know the high, high draft prospect. I think he's like the top lefty In college, according to one of the Baseball nerds. But, honestly, the guy that they got from Ole Miss a transfer, wes Mendez, who was their Sunday starter this weekend, he looked just as good man.
Speaker 1That's really good.
Speaker 2Yeah, he looked pretty nasty. John Abraham was the fourth pitcher, the three starters and then Abraham is kind of who was the?
Speaker 1second starter oh man Joey, joey Valini, joey Valini.
Speaker 2Yeah, I didn't really see a whole lot of his start, so I mean but he gave up a run.
Speaker 1Yeah, and he walks the guy Right and he struck out seven. I mean all the pitchers look dominant.
Speaker 2Yeah, and coming into the season, you know that Cam Leiter kid is still on the team, but I don't think he's really. I don't think they're counting on him to do anything in a Florida State uniform. So there was some question about who they were going to look at.
Speaker 1Besides, Arnold, Pitching-wise, you're talking. If you had to guess, you would say the strength of it is in the starting rotation or the bullpen Starting.
Speaker 2definitely All three product of Tampa Jesuit High School. They all played on the same team. I don't think they're all in the same graduating class, but it's pretty amazing. And then John Abraham like I said, the other one is also a Jesuit kid. So that program just pumping out top-end talent. But I think the bats power-wise you're not even close to what you had last year. Yeah, you lost a lot of talent in Cam Smith. Oh, cam Smith, james Tibbs, jaime Ferrer, marco Dinges guys, that that's a lot of home runs.
Speaker 2Right, you lost a lot of power.
Speaker 1So you're not going to replace that? No, what?
Speaker 2you're going to hope is you're going to get on base and you're going to have more steals. You're going to have more speed. They got a lot more speed in the outfield, but this is a team. You may see them winning a lot more low scoring games relying on pitching and defense. Defense is definitely an upgrade in the outfield, especially, um, you know, a guy like chase williams who's not even I don't think he's going to be an everyday outfielder and he at least not starting off, but I mean, that kid is probably as athletic as anybody in the country in a baseball uniform.
Speaker 1He's got a nice start so far this season.
Speaker 2Yeah, if anybody watching the USF game you know they saw what I'm talking about. Man, that triple was pretty crazy you got certain players, players, you got what?
Speaker 1uh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight guys with over double digit at bats.
Speaker 2He's one of them yeah, oh yeah, I mean he's. He's definitely like by the end of the season he may be an everyday starter in your outfield. Uh, I just, I think link jared is just gonna kind of feel it out here in these first couple weekends. See the most consistent lineup that he can go with. I mean, there's some guys that you know are going to be in the lineup, no matter what Max Williams, you know, faroe, lodis, gage Harrelson is going to be your leadoff guy.
Speaker 1A couple bombs for Max Williams and Drew Faroe already. Yeah, that's. That's a couple bombs for max williams, andrew farrow already. Yeah, that that's going to be where your power is coming from lodis as well.
Speaker 2I mean he's, he can get a hold of it. Cal fisher, they're expecting big power numbers and then you know, down the line, miles bailey you like cal fisher last year, so big year for him yeah well he was.
Speaker 2He was a big, big time kid. He's a big kid for notre dame. When link jared was at notre dame, he was a big, big-time kid. He's a big kid for Notre Dame. When Link Jarrett was at Notre Dame he was one of their big, big-time signees and then he kind of just followed him here. But I'm a big fan of his Miles Bailey. Right now he's kind of feeling it out. I mean, he looks like he's just a little bit overmatched with college pitching.
Speaker 1Oh, but that's going to happen, right, god, that's so surreal seeing that kid.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean you expect it, but in him and Hunter Carnes both, like you see, when the bat made contact the power that they have. So that'll come along as the season's going, and into next year as well, the hitting. So I expect the hitting to get better over the season, um, but it's not going to be what it was last year. You're just not going to replace that from year to year.
Speaker 1So but I you know, I don't see any reason why they they shouldn't be aiming for omaha again yeah, well, they're in the top five right now, so it should be a fun year over at the Dick. We'll watch it as it progresses. What about the back end of the bullpen Anybody? Or is it kind of by a committee right now?
Speaker 2Well, it's kind of up for grabs. I mean, they haven't really been tested in these first four games. It's you know Abraham's come in and kind of just locked it down in his performances. Know abraham's come in and kind of just locked it down in his performances. Um, you know the the second game, the saturday game. I didn't see the whole thing. It might have been a couple guys that pitched, but I don't think anything's locked down set in stone. Um, ben barrett, that's another arm. Keep an eye on it. Yeah, keep an eye on it. But I expect the starting pitching to be guys that are routinely giving you five or six, so you may not have to have as deep a bullpen.
Speaker 1Just like they talk. Oh no, no, not you, jimbo, sorry. Well, you know that's good. It's fun to see the FSU baseball back to where the glory years and it's usually gets so kind of spoiled you got real good.
Speaker 2It was right, mike martin, over those years, you know yeah and um and his kid took it tailed off at the end and his kid took over and well, I mean it was, it was kind of going okay at the end, if you think about it. Um, they went to omaha on his last year but yeah, it's um.
Speaker 1You can see the talent.
Speaker 2It's gotten better and they just well and, and you know, local, local kid mike mike capozzi, the pitching coach. Yeah, he's done a really good job and they're gonna just rebuilding.
Speaker 1They're gonna get if you're good here locally, you're gonna be playing there, unless you don't want to. So I don't think that's gonna be an issue. Oh no, yeah, which was at the end of junior's career. You know you had kids locally that were leaving and that's not.
Reflecting on FSU Basketball Legacy
Speaker 2That's a red flag right a kid like you can't. Like drew faro or yeah, you gotta have going somewhere else, kids in that are capable. In your backyard you got to keep those kids in baseball especially yeah, and with with bailey man, like the power that he he has the potential there.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, dude he is five an athletic yeah know he's carrying himself well, that's going to give him more at-bats.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1If he's able to defend over there at first base, big target.
Speaker 2Yeah, I expect him to be playing every day, most days Then he's going to, you know, just because of the potential.
Speaker 1If he's got defense, they're going to want that bat in there. If he can field his position and keep his batting average above, I mean right now he's hitting 231. He's got 13 at bat.
Speaker 2Right, he didn't do horrible, it's just. The K rate is high, it's going to be high, that's just going to be the kind of hitter that he is Gary Sheffield's kid.
Speaker 1Noah Sheffield got himself a hit Right.
Speaker 2If you've seen the clip of him batting, you can't miss which kid is Sheffield's man.
Speaker 1It's surreal.
Speaker 2Yeah, Same batting stance same.
Speaker 1It's pretty crazy. Well, this is FSU basketball, you know. They surprise you and they win a game on the road. Hey, it's a quad one win man. They get their first win and then they come home and just get completely destroyed by Clemson, who is really good they got to. You know, give them their roses or flowers or whatever, but that's a disappointing effort to get beat like that on your home floor. They'll get it going again. But it's just. I want to see it end positively for Leonard, but it doesn't look like it will.
Speaker 2Well, if you can beat Miami, you sweep Miami one last time once you go out with like 12.
Speaker 1NIT was what I said in the beginning of the year yeah, that's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, kind of collapsed there on that trip out west and I thought when you think of leonard hamilton, what's the first thing that comes to your mind over his you know, know, tenure here at FSU Dr Ball Anthony, early in the years when nobody was there? Yeah, was it, anthony?
Speaker 2McPherson or Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1Anthony Richardson, back in those days, though, McDonald's All-American recruited by Steve Robinson.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, man, um mcdonald's all-american recruited by steve robinson. Oh yeah, man, he had everything that that I mean even each he'd be a high recruit.
Speaker 1Yeah, even now what stands out to me? Um well, first and foremost, tragic. It's almost tragic, being that it's the term his best team um was not allowed to have a chance to play for a championship, but, you know, nobody was that year 2020, but other than that man. It's just the type of person he really that came through here and nobody had any, I mean up until this year, where they, like, had this, they're having a collective. Yeah, I sue him or something, but that was just a sign of the times changing yeah, I mean if you.
Speaker 1That's just. That's another sign where, hey, I gotta get out of this. But there's nothing in his 20 plus years here other than just class act after class act, just just not going to do things that you could do and get away with that other coaches do, but just wasn't going to do. It, had a, just had a standard of character, and I think that's what I remember most about leonard just the pride and the type of student athlete you know that he produced and you know he never really sucked until the till lately. And when he, I mean he, it took him a while to get to that first acc championship and he did it in a defensive way and then he changed and he did it that way too.
Speaker 2So yeah he.
Speaker 1He took over Florida State when Florida State was trash yeah, and they and the support really never changed yeah, it didn't, it was always bottom of the league compared to the opponents and he got it to where it was consistently right. What top five I mean. He was there in that he was always right behind, you know, coach k and roy williams and gary williams.
Speaker 2Now he's ahead of him yeah, well, I mean he built it his own way. I mean it was in a time when nil and and going out and and, like you, would have to literally break rules to go and just buy your roster, and that that's not something he was ever doing those first years back when, um, you know they weren't quite getting to the tournament, but you could tell it was different.
Speaker 1They should have been getting to the turn, yeah, they were good enough, they would have every year they would be. They would beat somebody good.
Speaker 2It was a new reason, chris Paul. Yeah, new reason every season, chris.
Speaker 1Paul's Wake Forest team came in here and got beat. Oh yeah, you had Alexander Johnson Vaughn Wafer.
Speaker 2I still remember that man. Teron Downey did the throw slash and then brick the free, throw the guy number 22, the scorer guy. You talking about Tim Pickett?
Speaker 1Pickett yeah, those were fun. Isaiah Swan guys like that. He had one of the best dunks I've ever seen.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean he was always getting guys that looked like they could play, they were athletic and they looked like they should be better as he showed that he could get those teams to respectability and get them to be bubble teams or whatnot. Who was the first big recruit for him? Snare, snare yeah.
Speaker 1I mean, maybe you know you had a.
Speaker 2No, I think you're right, man. I think it was Snare. Snare was up there and like one of the top recruits, and then they got singleton. What in the next class?
Speaker 1but it was more like guys that trent forest to carl white, terrence man. Those are the kind of guys that I remember for those are still top 100 kids these are guys yeah, but trent forest was just that's, that's, that's the once
Speaker 1in-generation type of player that you get and just the type of person he was and just no-nonsense work all the time. Those were my favorite teams and it was a shame to see them never get a chance, but it was fun to see those guys develop and to see, still, still see them prosper. Yeah, See.
Speaker 2I'm still still doing really well for them. I mean, they're all still playing professional place where basketball was nothing.
Speaker 1I think that's what he got it to where it could have it was. Could have been at the top, not not so much.
Speaker 2Nothing is just like a forgotten, you know, an afterthought, something like I already had this time.
Speaker 1Both years Florida won the national championship. He beat them. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, it shows you, to me, it just shows you that those were teams that probably should have been in the tournament, but they found a reason to. You know, it becomes political when you're on the bubble.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2You know we see that in football now, but yeah, man, he's a legend, without question the best in the history of Florida state basketball.
Speaker 1I mean basketball hall of fame. I think he should be in. I mean in a hall of fame that puts a lot of people in. I mean.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean yeah, he's a winner At a place like Florida State. Yeah, and it not everything.
Speaker 1The only thing that he's missing is the Final Four and, I guess, the National Champion champion.
Speaker 2yeah, that, that kind of success right but, but again everything else, and that comes down to a tournament how many programs are going to win a national title, especially now like what right?
Evolution of College Basketball Landscape
Speaker 1yes we had. He had florida state where they had legitimate chances and they just came up short, um, and then they were denied that one year. So, uh, I I'm gonna have to look back and he's always gonna be one of my favorites yeah, oh man dude there's, you're one of my worst sports memories, and one of the worst things about that pandemic was that for me, straight up, that's the one thing I remember first and foremost about the whole damn thing.
Speaker 2And people died, yeah well, that that was when it it. It just coincided with when it started getting real in the country. You're like, all right, damn, it was one of the things. We're like, damn, they even can't cancel the basketball tournament. So now it's definitely serious.
Speaker 1But yeah, man it just, uh, just a great man, um, high character, just a guy. That wasn't gonna you. What I, what I liked about leonard was he he didn't have to have a guy. He did do well when he had some higher ranked guys and you saw him get the best team he ever had. But was those teams that he that he built off character off the junkyard dog defense off you know?
Speaker 2just guys, he's going to develop yeah, it was off and that's something you could not do in today's game well, I don't think he had a one and done until yeah.
Speaker 1Maybe jonathan yeah and then he developed with that. But then even to this last, and then when the you know when you could actually pay for play and and well, now it's different got transfer portal and nil.
Speaker 2So it's literally dude. Look at, look at kansas, and this is kansas kids suing a guy like literally hamilton right.
Speaker 1Well, even bill self can't like it right it's insane, all the good coaches are tapping out.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're calling for his job. Kansas hasn't missed the tournament since 1973. That's hilarious, yeah, but everybody can buy players now and they're all going to one conference with the most money.
Speaker 1It's funny that we told you that years ago, once they started this.
Speaker 2It's just going to be yeah, it took about 10 years and it took about a decade to get to where you can pay the players.
Speaker 1You're going to want your product to look the best on television. This is all this is.
Speaker 2Yeah, ultimately, like at the time you know, 2014 and the, the, the years a couple years afterwards, everybody's like, oh, they just want to dominate football, they want to dominate talking about the SEC. And this is the real move here. This was the real payoff to completely take over a sport that traditionally they had very few seats at the table. Right now they're going to own it.
Speaker 1Kentucky and Arkansas yeah, now it's, it's unrecognizable at the table right now they're gonna own it. Kentucky and arkansas yeah, now it's, it's unrecognizable. I mean the roster turnover is that now 80 last year? To this year yeah, across the board. That's incredible. There's no retention, nobody's holding on to anybody. I mean it's that's why I Clemson might have a shot, because they actually have some guys that have been there. Yeah, they're like the last of a lot. And there will be teams like Clemson, yeah, but they're.
Speaker 2But they're few and far between. Yeah. It's going to come down to one-year transfers and you know, guys, just look at Missouri, a Cooper flag. You look at Missouri, which?
Speaker 1literally didn. Look at Missouri. You look at Missouri. Literally didn't win a game last year and they are a top 25 team.
Speaker 2They have wins over a couple of the top-ranked teams in the SEC. They flipped the roster Right and it's young kids.
Speaker 1I mean you got three or four of them out of high school, so it's completely just wild, wild west. You know football gets a lot of the attention but basketball is not even real anymore. There's no way it's like literally, college basketball, because you don't even really have to go to class at all.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1I mean yeah. I mean like the play in the first season. You really don't.
Speaker 2Well, they start not going to school in high school. Well, yeah, I mean, like the play in the first season, you really don't. Well, they started not going to school in high school. Well, yeah, most of them hit the academies that are just, you know, schools in a box, but that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1Yeah Well, football's over the long like they're going to drag out this draft.
Speaker 2Oh man, yeah, long drug like they're gonna drag out this draft. Oh yeah, they're already just over analyzing it, coming up with every reason why.
Speaker 1Oh, travis hunter's not gonna be a a top three pick, maybe it's all for show like I have something to talk about right, a couple of things that I'd like to keep an eye on in the off season. Number one for me is not hard to tell it's where's james gonna play oh yeah, dude, that's, that's top priority of the summer man. I was happy to see his performance during super bowl week. 138 million views on social media incredible dude dude, what?
Speaker 2what if you were in his shoes and you, you? Oh, he's gonna play.
Future of College Football Landscape
Speaker 1But I know man, but you had that information like man, they, they love me that much and that's awesome to know that you're gonna have a place, something to do after you're done yeah, and if you can still do it, but I don't think. I think it's something that everybody else knew. I think that you could see why all the fsu fans loved him so much.
Speaker 2You know over the years, and it's just bucks fans would have loved him too, if they would have been right, smart enough to give themselves a chance well, no, he was, he was dude.
Speaker 1That's a different story and that's about number one picks and you can pull out the number one picks going to any team. I mean, tom Brady said it himself If he was in that same situation he wouldn't have done anything. So that's the guy, the GOAT. So I think the way he handled it has been just exemplatory and shows you why everyone loves him.
Speaker 2In every locker room he goes to um, he's the leader on the team, even if he's a backup yeah, I mean, if he has as much fun playing football as he did doing the fox correspondence man, then yeah, everybody's gonna. That's the guy you want.
Speaker 1Yeah, everybody's going to want him in the locker room, yeah, so I want to see where he goes. I want to selfishly see him play. I would love to see him on the Dolphins. I think that would be a good fit. I honestly do think it would be a good fit. You have, I think Tua's capable, but I really think if anybody needs a backup, it's Tua, yeah, and I think he would take some of the weight off of Tua's shoulders in terms of leadership.
Speaker 2Yeah, you could rest being something in the locker room that he's not capable of being Right, and part of that is because, like dude, he's had the crap kicked out of him.
Speaker 1Right, let him just be a quarterback. I want him to start first and foremost, but if he's not, I want him to go to miami first, of course, but not only because I'm a dolphins fan, but I think that's the best situation uh, I guess I want to see him go to the raiders.
Speaker 2Yeah, that, I think that would fit, but we'll see that would have been interesting. Man, I I just I don't like chip kelly, yeah I don't want him to go back to cleveland I don't think that's happening I think that's the whole reason. He's doing all the asking and, yeah, I'm not going. Why would you go back at this?
Speaker 1I think it's going to be in a role where he's not going to be able to start, unfortunately. But you know, go where you have the best chance to play. I think miami's place. Um, you got who's going to be the number one pick. Then, right now, what is it? Tennessee has it.
Speaker 2Yeah, they do. There's a lot of talk about abdul carter, like I. I just chalk it up to you know the guys that do their mock drafts and everything just trying to be, but I've seen more than one that's had him going first, so it's kind of offensive line. No, it's the linebacker slash edge guy from penn state.
Speaker 1Oh, there you go which is kind of like to me that dude's insane he.
Speaker 2He's good, but I don't think he's as good as micah parsons was when he was coming out of penn state. For me like if if micah parsons wasn't number one overall, then why?
Speaker 1what are you going to do at quarterback Tennessee?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's another huge issue. You don't have a QB. I mean a nice pass. Rusher is great and everything.
Speaker 1Nashville huh.
Speaker 2Hey, I know somebody who likes country music probably he likes all music.
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Speaker 2Hey, man country's nothing but gospel, with Jesus replaced with whiskey, man Come on.
Speaker 1Well, we don't have no spring game this year. We've spoke a little bit about FSU baseball Hoops. It's a send-off for Leonard Hamilton.
Speaker 2Hopefully it ends okay yeah, on the baseball front man. Yeah, one thing that's interesting and and I just wanted to doesn't have really anything to do with florida state other than being a conference opponent, although we don't play him. Stanford baseball has the top high school prospect from Japan. Oh, guy, that broke Otani's home run record, japanese home run record for high school. He's now a freshman out there.
Speaker 2His name is Rintaro Shishaki or something like that, but he's 6 feet 280 pounds, 6 feet 280. Yeah, this dude is a hoss, an absolute unit and dude. He just hits bombs and he's got that discipline approach that Japanese hitters tend to have. Yeah, so that's gonna like that's. I thought it's interesting we don't play stanford this year in the regular season. Maybe they'll get them in the postseason. But first time that's ever happened, first time in the history, atlantic coast of stanford yeah, the old pac-atlantic that that's going to be interesting to watch him.
Speaker 1Yeah, are they going to be interesting to watch him? Yeah, are they going to be any good around?
Speaker 2him.
Speaker 1I don't know man West Coast baseball is really that's something that might die out.
Speaker 2Oh, it has died, out.
Speaker 1Because of all.
Speaker 2That's already happened.
Speaker 1When you have a sport like college baseball at most, and then you would say college baseball it hit first and then basketball.
Speaker 2Yeah it. And then you would say college baseball, hit it, hit first, and then basketball yeah it hit it, hit baseball first, but nobody was really paying attention on exactly that they they do in other sports because you could see, I mean they've been dominating.
Speaker 1Now you have traditionally a lot of good teams in the ncc, but the all the talent from out west coming down there too, right, that's something where you've, where you've seen it take, take a hold as teams that were good.
Speaker 2You know, a team like fullerton right or a team like pepperdine long beach state, stanford, arizona state. Yeah, um teams like that, they they can't compete. Facilities wise right and you know it's like dude I down south is the same as out west. We play baseball year round, so I'm gonna go, and even even the texas schools are cleaning up on it because they got tons of money.
Speaker 1Right now they're in the sec, um, but yeah, you really have seen that happen out west west coast baseball has kind of and it's also going to open the door for the professional ranks that you're going to get a lot of guys that would have gone pro that are now going to play college baseball.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean you're already seeing that. I mean you see it here in Florida state Hunter Carnes is kid that probably would have gone top top five rounds. Tennessee's team that lineup yeah.
Speaker 1But just the. So you're going to see maybe an elevation of product go up in the game.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, you'll see, you will. But it'll get more concentrated to just one region, certain schools. Oh yeah, I feel bad for a lot of teams in the Big Ten, a lot of teams out west. They're just not going to be able to compete. You may see teams cut that sport altogether.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, that's one that when it starts the season it's snowing up north. It's hard to compete in a sport where you can't play half the damn year.
Speaker 2Right, it takes money, you it it's not as much as basketball, or you're not gonna see a big 10 team, but you know, baseball.
Speaker 1Maybe you'll see one diamond in the rough every year or so, but yeah, those are dead indiana.
Speaker 2When they had uh, what that? What's his name? Kyle schwarber. They were good, they beat us. They beat Florida State. Oh yeah, every once in a while In Michigan for a year or two.
Speaker 1Because you can get a guy, a couple of dudes just to commit and that can change it, but you're not going to get the consistent talent every year that it takes to maintain a program at that level at a place like that. No, even if the weather was the same, what's shocking is to see it happen out west, where the weather isn't now. That's the show of the money is yeah, without question, dude.
Speaker 2You look at man somebody's, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1Instead of going to the draft, I'm gonna go now.
Speaker 2Consider playing in the southeastern conference, something I would have never considered in the past right, it's something that you know, something like is automatic that you go minors, like, even if I gotta play a ball for two years or whatever, you're already going.
Speaker 1Nah what are the chances that this ends up?
Speaker 2well, we are back baby. We are back baby. There's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory hopes. I think it fits, though, that you always mess it up, not always Because it's just you know, it's a small percentage chance it's gonna work, yeah, yeah well, we gotta get on out of here.
Speaker 1All right here, but hey, before we go got to see uh, captain, america got to see it. Brave new world, man. Let me tell you nothing against some of the people in the movie. I'm a huge fans of them, but, man, no, it wasn't good and I like movies. It's just not good. And I was certain and I wanted to like it because I heard the rumblings made a lot of money.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, it's marvel, people wanted to see it. Gotta go see it if you're following any kind of storyline in Marvel.
Speaker 1Whatever's going on in there. That's why I don't follow Marvel. It's all blown up, so they went back. I'm not going to blow it, I'm not going to talk about it, but.
Speaker 2You can talk about him being Red Hulk, since they already gave it away.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, we already know that.
Speaker 2I don't know man, that was just off-putting to see him transform back into old ass Harrison's Ford.
Speaker 1it was just like a spy. No good put together. You can tell they missed the Russo brothers, the guys that did the last three Captain Americas, and now they just signed him to the Avengers movies for 80 million dollars. They missed the Russo brothers, the guys that did the last three Captain Americas, and now they just signed him to the Avengers movies for $80 million. And they went to get Robert Downey Jr to play Dr Doom. For how much, it's probably undisclosed, probably even more.
Speaker 2Wait what so? He's going to play somebody else.
Speaker 1Now he's a villain. So in that preview you saw for Fantastic Four, that's probably they're going to try to set up their next Avengers movie.
Speaker 2So he's playing a bad guy. He's going to be doomed, but they already had to.
Speaker 1It was that dude from.
Speaker 2Nip Tuck. Who are they?
Speaker 1trying to pull this shit on man Nip Tuck.
Speaker 2Oh man Shout out baby. It was a good show, we watched it.
Speaker 1They're going to have Pedro Pascal. He's going gonna be their lead he's in everything he was in Gladiator 2, wasn't he? Well, we'll watch it, we'll react to it. We'll react to that shh and we'll talk to you next time right here on the North Florida Sports Network. Yeah, I haven't hit it, okay, florida.
Speaker 2Sports Network. Hit it Okay, go to the next hole.
